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<font face="Verdana">I read something yesterday which is perhaps
even more dangerous..... in fact, rather chilling. A report said
how through such back door controls 'evidence could be created/
planted' against anyone for anything, and thus use the coercive
powers to the state to one's (digital controller) own ends....
Much of investigation world wide today rely on electronic
documents, traces etc....<br>
The whole basis of the digital world system is shaken...<br>
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parminder <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Wednesday 19 June 2013 03:20 AM,
michael gurstein wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">I actually think it may be even more serious than that...
How long are the various multilateral agreements opening up national markets
to international free trade and contracting going to survive once it is
realized that the surveillance mechanisms which have been put into place
mean that there is at least the potential for US interests to have access to
the entire range of commercial (not to speak of IP) secrets as for example
access to bid documents, assessment criteria, cost analyses etc.etc. in
competitive bidding which are the bedrock of international trade?
One of the documents released pointed to the cosy and mutually supportive
relationships of the NSA with thousands of US private sector companies and
to the 4 million US citizens with Top Secret clearance for information
access. Could one of those companies (or some of those individuals) be the
company (or an employee of the company) that your non-US company is bidding
against under one of these "free" trade agreements and if so, what is the
point of bidding if the result is already fixed?
M
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Peter [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:30 PM
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; michael gurstein
Subject: Re: [governance] RE: Has U.S. started an Internet war? By Bruce
Schneier + tinyURL
In time these events may prove far more serious for the Internet's future
than may be apparent at this stage.
The most powerful advocate of Internet freedom and multistakeholderism is
being seen now as a party acting in its self interest rather than for global
interests, and multistakeholder is beginning to seem like a philosophy of
convenience to protect US dominant interests.
I expect to see more and more walled gardens. I expect the IANA oversight
question to be raised more loudly, and US intransigence on this question to
lead to serious repercussions for ICANN as well.
This might be the end game for the global Internet as we know it. I don't
see how we move on from here to achieve sensible outcomes. I'm sure global
connectivity will remain, but I dont see the sort of facility we used to
enjoy and we probably all hoped for remaining intact.
Ian Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: michael gurstein
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:20 AM
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
Subject: [governance] RE: Has U.S. started an Internet war? By Bruce
Schneier + tinyURL
No with tiny URL
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/18/opinion/schneier-cyberwar-policy/index.htm">http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/18/opinion/schneier-cyberwar-policy/index.htm</a>
l?hpt=hp_c3
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://tinyurl.com/n35rd8h">http://tinyurl.com/n35rd8h</a>
M
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