[governance] FW: [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous Internet" ?
Baudouin SCHOMBE
b.schombe at gmail.com
Wed Jun 27 05:34:26 EDT 2012
hello Assama,
Very good questions but concerns remain:
-most UN member countries have recognized the problem posed by the self in
cyberspace. We're going right into debates on state sovereignty in
cyberspace with all that it represents as claiming rights.
Technology as the content of technology are intrinsically linked. You can
not separate them.
It was then to think, to be logical, to consider legal steps to manage
these two aspects. But this procedure requires global cooperation. And here we
are in the spirit of Chapter 11 of the Action Plan of Tunis.
But the question now is at the level of criminal threats in cyberspace. In
addition to ill-intentioned individuals, these crimes have also become a
means of action for some states. I'm studying the Geneva Action Plan and Tunis
Agenda to see if arrangements have been envisaged in this regard.
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2012/6/25 International Ivission <ivissioninternational at yahoo.fr>
> Hi Baudouin,
>
> The issue arising here is that of ownership in the cyber space.
> I want to believe that in the nearest future, the hypothesis of
> partitioning the global web space into national web spaces might come to
> the scene.
> A scenario where internet users will need a kind of virtual visa to gain
> access to a web space out of their national territory.
> To anticipate this kind of an event, we should take the chinese very
> serious and dig deep into the initiative.
> May be its an polite method of contesting the legitimacy of the Internet
> governing body?
> ----------------
> permit me to ask the following question:
> - Which is more important, the content in the internet or the technology?
> - If you create your own technology, is there any guarantee that you will
> not censor content? *(PIPA/SOPA)*
> - If we create virtual borders in our cyber space, what will become of the
> information society?+
> - Are we going to jeopardize the outcomes of Tunis Summit ?
>
> These are just a few questions for us to ponder on, especially or Chinese
> friends and colleagues.
>
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> *De :* Baudouin SCHOMBE <b.schombe at gmail.com>
> *À :* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>
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> *Cc :* lists at infosecurity.ch
> *Envoyé le :* Lundi 25 juin 2012 10h33
> *Objet :* Re: [governance] FW: [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a
> "Autonomous Internet" ?
>
> hello all,
>
> I wonder about the relevance of the Chinese proposal for the autonomy of
> the Internet!
> Given the changes in strength of online crime or more of the core
> cybrecriminalité in cyberspace, this proposal of autonomy of the internet would
> it not justified?
> There is reason to believe and even to believe that there are states that
> are also cyber criminals!
>
>
> SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN
>
> Téléphone mobile:+243998983491
> email : b.schombe at gmail.com
> skype : b.schombe
> blog : http://akimambo.unblog.fr
> Site Web : www.ticafrica.net
>
>
>
>
>
> 2012/6/17 michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>
>
> If I am reading this below correctly...
>
> One possible effect of an Internet governance system which refuses to
> "internationalize" as per the current discussion is one that fractures...
> Not to say that the regimes in certain countries wouldn't try to force a
> fracture in any case but just to say that the refusal to allow any
> "flexibility" in the areas of internationalization of governance makes such
> fractures very very much more likely and globally would increase support
> for/weaken opposition to such developments.
>
> M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu
> [mailto:liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of Fabio
> Pietrosanti (naif)
> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:04 AM
> To: Liberation Technologies
> Subject: [liberationtech] Chinese preparing for a "Autonomous Internet" ?
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> i wanted to notice that there is a new internet draft in IETF that should
> make us think on the chinese government respect strategies to internet
> governance issues.
>
> DNS Extension for Autonomous Internet(AIP)
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-diao-aip-dns-00
>
> This proposal by China Telecom, China Mobile & Guangdong Commercial College
> propose.
>
> Even if we know that "root servers" are very well distributed across the
> world / countries trough a collaborative system, chinese see this as a
> "central control".
>
> From Introduction on Root DNS:
> " But its central control
> method is not suitable to autonomy and scalability and can't keep up
> with the fast development of Internet. To national internet network,
> owning its independent root DNS server and realize autonomy in
> Internet is a problem not only for the cost but also for the
> technical difficulty. It is almost impossible in current DNS
> architecture."
>
> From AIP DNS Architecture:
> "In order to realize the transition from Internet to Autonomous
> Internet, each partition of current Internet should first realize
> possible self-government and gradually reduce its dependence on the
> foreign domain names, such as COM, NET et al."
>
> So basically the chinese play is not of being part of a collaborative
> internet, but driving strategically the direction to become an independent
> island in the world.
>
> -naif
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