[Governance] Joint Statement from NTEN and EFF on Rejection of Sale of .ORG

[Daniel Pimienta]

Sorry! I made a typo in my last message in the sentence : "The number of 
.org domains remains stable since 2003 between 10 and 11 millions and no 
surge has been shown when the restriction to non-profit has been 
released in august 2019 (source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.org).  "

I meant to write 2013 instead of 2003. This does not change anything to 
the point I wanted to make.

I will quote the 2 sentences I referred from the wikipedia page:

1) "The domain was originally intended for non-profit entities, but this 
restriction was removed in August 2019."

2) "The number of registered domains in org has increased from fewer 
than one million in the 1990s, to ten million in 2012, and held steady 
between ten and eleven million since then."


On 03/05/2020 05:17, Daniel Pimienta via Governance wrote:
>
>> About all one can say is that there exist some small number of actual
>> public benefit organizations probably amounting to fewer than 1% of
>> registrations, probably far fewer, who have chosen .ORG for their
>> branding.
>
> If this is meant to say that probably far more than 99% of .org 
> domains are related to for profit entities this is a fake stats only 
> created to sustain an argument which falls down when the data is 
> checked. One wishes some source were provided to sustain the data or 
> at least some methods to reach that results one could evaluate.
>
> The facts are :
>
> - The number of .org domains remains stable since 2003 between 10 and 
> 11 millions and no surge has been shown when the restriction to 
> non-profit has been released in august 2019 (source 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.org).
>
> - If anybody knows about some study surveying the percentage of for 
> profit within those 11 millions domain it would be nice to share.
>
> Meanwhile :
>
> - There are many sites analyzing the pros and cons for businesses 
> (specially small) to decide between .com or .org and they generally 
> shows no special incentive for .org (except maybe to forward a 
> mybusiness.org towards mybusiness.com) and at the contrary warns about 
> the harmful confusion for good business. Check 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=.org+vs+.com
>
> - One could play with search engine using the site:.org option and 
> browse fast the results: if really only 1% would be non profit it 
> would show clearly in the displayed results. To make it still more 
> clear one can use keywords prone to business such as business, sale, 
> buy and discovers that less than 10% correspond to for profit. Check 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=buy+site:.org and so on. One could use 
> still more specific searches with keywords such as bank or restaurant 
> within .org and less than 20% of the results correspond to for profit 
> for "restaurant" and maybe less than 40% for banks (which seems to 
> have adopted more massively the trick of forwarding from .org to .com 
> main site). Check https://www.google.com/search?q=bank+site:.org
>
> - As a by-product of those experiments, the rich diversity of the 
> ecosystem of the non for profit realm in the Internet appears : 
> international, national and local organizations, associations, free 
> software providers, education entities, users group,... which 
> advocates naturally  to preserve this important (and historical) 
> ecosystem of the Internet.
>
>
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