[governance] IGC Coordinator Relections - Reminder - Votes Closing in a few days

[Tapani Tarvainen]

Hi Jean,

My apologies for being unclear.

When I said we have no such plans I meant literally just that - I did
not intend to imply that anything like that had been considered or
should or even could be planned. I was just replying to Michael who
seemed to think it might be possible. Indeed what you correctly
observe about new members makes it clear that such a purge would not
be possible.

In any case I am not in any position to remove anyone from the list
even if wanted to. I'm now only concerned with the elections and apart
from recording who voted and who didn't I'm not going to make any
distinctions between list members.

But as your and Michael's questions indicate, it might be good if our
charter was clearer on this point, distinguishing between new members
(who are planning to vote as soon as they can) and observers (who can't
or don't want to vote). But that's just a note for a possible future
charter revision.

I hope this clarifies the situation.

Best,

Tapani

On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 03:16:08PM +0800, Jean F. Quéralt (JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org) wrote:
> 
> Dear Tapani,
> 
> Your message raised doubts in me.
> 
> >From my understanding from previous messages on this
> subject, eligible voters had a number of conditions to fulfil; one of them
> being the time they've joined the list.
> That makes the case that, inevitably, you'll have members of the list that
> can't be voters. I am one of those as I joined the list during the BB
> merging, less than 2 months ago. So I am a member of the list and can't
> (won't) vote.
> 
> I hear you when you say "no plans to purge non-voters"... the question that
> comes to my mind is how to avoid that status to being with since all
> newcomers will have that 2-months "waiting/vetting" time before being able
> to vote?
> Anything I am missing?
> 
> Best,
> Jean
> 
> PS: Also read Ian's message on the matter. Just thinking the "limbo status"
> should be identified and addressed if necessary.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 5:14 PM Tapani Tarvainen <tapani.tarvainen at effi.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Michael,
> >
> > IGC Charter is a bit unclear about this but practice has long been
> > that it is perfectly fine to be on the mailing list without being a
> > (voting) member of the IGC.
> >
> > It might be useful to clarify that and the terminology, such people
> > could be called "observers" or something like that, but I'll leave it
> > to our future co-coordinators to deal with.
> >
> > In any case we have now no plans purge non-voters from the list.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tapani
> >
> >
> > On Sep 20 09:58, Michael ILISHEBO (governance at lists.riseup.net) wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Ian,
> > >
> > > As a friend of the Civil Society and one from Government, I am ineligible
> > > to VOTE but would like to remain a member of this mailing list.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Tapani Tarvainen