[governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF

[Tapani Tarvainen]

Vatican and Palestine do have observer status in the UN even
though they're not members, it may make a difference.

And I'm pretty sure just about everyone in Vatican has also another
passport, probably quite a few in Palestine as well.

But still, appealing to them as precedent might be worth a shot.

-- 
Tapani Tarvainen


On Sep 06 12:02, chlebrum . (chlebrum at gmail.com) wrote:

> FYI, Vatican and Palestine were present at the WSIS in Geneva in 2003 and
> 2005 in Tunis, they have been participating in the IGF since the beginning.
> It is impossible to follow an IGF in remote access, the most important
> being meetings with people around the booths and the many workshops, only
> the plenary discussions are recorded, right?
> 
> Chantal Lebrument
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> 
> 
> Le ven. 6 sept. 2019 à 11:51, Tapani Tarvainen <tapani.tarvainen at effi.org>
> a écrit :
> 
> > Just a minor point but Taiwan is not the only country that isn't a
> > member of the UN (others include Vatican, Palestine, Kosovo, Niue,
> > Cook Islands at least). If someone wants to push this it might be
> > better to frame it more generically rather being than just about
> > Taiwan.
> >
> > Tapani
> >
> > On Sep 06 08:44, ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com) wrote:
> >
> > > I wish there was an easy answer to this Michael.
> > >
> > > But as I understand it, we are dealing with a whole-of-UN problem,
> > > not just an IGF one. For whatever historic reasons, and they are to
> > > do with recognition of the Peoples Republic of China, Taiwan is not
> > > recognised by the UN as a nation state - although they would like to
> > > be and have a few allies pushing their cause.
> > >
> > > I believe it goes back to 1971. China's attitude has been "The
> > > United Nations is an international organization composed of
> > > sovereign states.Taiwan as a province of China is completely not
> > > qualified and has no right to participate in it. Due to the
> > > well-known reasons, the Taiwan authorities illegally usurped China's
> > > UN seat for as long as 22 years"
> > > (http://ae.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/twwt/t150866.htm)
> > >
> > > But having said that - others might be able to provide more
> > > background - since IGF is not a meeting of nation states, but also
> > > includes civil society and other stakeholders, one would think there
> > > might  be a way around it. Yes, to register one needs a passport -
> > > maybe an ally of Taiwan would be prepared to issue passports or
> > > acceptab;e documents for Taiwanese citizens?
> > >
> > > I don't know how we could get around this, just brainstorming. In an
> > > ideal IGF, stateless people would have a voice and be able to
> > > attend, subject of course to standard security clearances. Maybe MAG
> > > could explore this?
> > >
> > >
> > > Ian Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------ Original Message ------
> > > From: "Michael J. Oghia" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> > > To: "IGC" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> > > Sent: 6/09/2019 5:49:07 PM
> > > Subject: [governance] Taiwanese nationals and the IGF
> > >
> > > >Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > >I'd like to raise a serious concern I have regarding the IGF. A
> > > >contact of mine in Taiwan is having trouble registering for the
> > > >IGF. She solely has a Taiwanese passport, but the IGF, as a UN
> > > >event, can only register individuals who have a passport from a UN
> > > >member state (of which Taiwan is not a member). I checked with the
> > > >IGF Secretariat, and unfortunately, there's not much they can do
> > > >about it.
> > > >
> > > >I know that the politics surrounding China and Taiwan are
> > > >contentious, however, this essentially means that she (and anyone
> > > >else) from Taiwan – more than 23.5 million people – are
> > > >essentially barred from attending the IGF if they don't have
> > > >another passport.
> > > >
> > > >I find this deeply problematic and in violation of the fundamental
> > > >principles of the multi-stakeholder model, namely the fact that
> > > >it's meant to be inclusive and open to all.
> > > >
> > > >Has anyone encountered this problem in the past, either in the IG
> > > >sector or another development sector? Does anyone have ideas for
> > > >how it can be resolved? I'm well aware this is not the first
> > > >instance of a Taiwanese national being excluded from participation
> > > >in a global event, so perhaps this is a moot point and no one can
> > > >help. Still, it still strikes me as incredibly unjust and unfair
> > > >that regional politics would prevent individuals from attending
> > > >the IGF.
> > > >
> > > >Best,
> > > >-Michael
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