[governance] [bestbits] The proposal for closing Bestbits and merging with IGC + next steps (was "Follow-on from survey on the future of Bestbits: next steps")

Poncelet Ileleji pileleji at ymca.gm
Thu Jun 27 09:28:26 EDT 2019 

Hello Sheetal,

I concur accordingly and have no objections at all to the proposal so I
have no further inputs.

Poncelet

Kind Regards

Poncelet

On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 13:24, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Thanks to all those who have inputted so far! It's great to see support
> for the proposal shared earlier this month. This is just a gentle reminder
> to weigh in on the proposal before *July 5th*, which I've recopied in
> italics below.
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
>
> *Meeting of IGC & BB participants, June 11th, 2019, RightsCon, Tunis*
>
> *Following a discussion of the history of coordination efforts from those
> who had been involved in the early set up of the IGC, and a discussion of
> what is needed to address challenges to information sharing & coordination,
> those present agreed that the proposal for combining, or consolidating,
> efforts should be taken forward (this was one of the four options suggested
> in a survey to Bestbits members earlier this year - see attached). This
> discussion also draws on and continues a series of online conversations
> facilitated by members of IGC and Bestbits, which you can see a summary of
> here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>. There was a need
> identified for more streamlined information sharing and expectation that
> opportunities to collaborate around common priorities or issues will arise
> from more structured and streamlined information sharing. It was also
> agreed that the current IGC Charter could form a basis for a future
> document but that it should be revisited and a more lightweight and general
> framework should be developed.*
>
>
> *Therefore, the group proposes that those interested in civil society
> coordination efforts related to the original vision of the IGC Charter (see
> attached), join the IGC and that Bestbits is closed, with an automatic
> response instituted for those posting on Bestbits, redirecting them to join
> IGC. Within IGC, following this merger, we propose that those interested
> form a small drafting group to draft a revised and more lightweight version
> of the Charter. Those present also agreed to work towards the organisation
> of a day 0 event before the global IGF this year in Berlin, in concert with
> German civil society groups. The day 0 event will be dedicated to
> finalising the revised Charter and sharing updates on relevant global
> processes (the UN High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation & the UN First
> Committee processes on cybersecurity). *
>
>
> *If you have strong concerns or if you oppose the merger proposal as
> outlined above, please share your perspectives by 05 July. Should there be
> no objections, we suggest the process as outlined is implemented after July
> 05. If you have any questions at all about the process so far, please do
> get in touch with us.*
>
> *Participants: Leena Romppainen (Effi), Gayatri Khandhadai (APC), Pavitra
> Ramanujam (APC), Sheetal Kumar (GPD), Anriette Esterhuysen (APC), Milton
> Mueller (Georgia Tech), Jamila Venturini (Derechos Digitales), Peter Micek
> (Access Now), Rafik Dammak, Bruna Martins dos Santos (Coding Rights),
> Nadira Alaraj, Bach Avezdjanov (Columbia Global Freedom of Expression),
> Arsene Tungali (Rudi International)*
>
>
> *Agenda followed:*
>
>
>
> *1) Introductions 2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed 3)
> Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why organise
> the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be? 4)
> Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee? Agreement on
> roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps *
>
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 14:53, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks
>> A better option.
>> Regards
>> Remmy Nweke
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 18:57 Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I am writing here on behalf of the thirteen members of IGC and/or
>>> Bestbits which met on June 11, day 0 of RightsCon in Tunis to take forward
>>> our discussion on how to better coordinate civil society efforts (see
>>> agenda & participants at bottom of this email). Please see our proposal
>>> below.
>>>
>>> Following a discussion of the history of coordination efforts from those
>>> who had been involved in the early set up of the IGC, and a discussion of
>>> what is needed to address challenges to information sharing & coordination,
>>> those present agreed that the proposal for combining, or consolidating,
>>> efforts should be taken forward (this was one of the four options suggested
>>> in a survey to Bestbits members earlier this year - see attached). This
>>> discussion also draws on and continues a series of online conversations
>>> facilitated by members of IGC and Bestbits, which you can see a summary of
>>> here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture. There was a
>>> need identified for more streamlined information sharing and expectation
>>> that opportunities to collaborate around common priorities or issues will
>>> arise from more structured and streamlined information sharing. It was also
>>> agreed that the current IGC Charter could form a basis for a future
>>> document but that it should be revisited and a more lightweight and general
>>> framework should be developed.
>>>
>>> Therefore, the group proposes that those interested in civil society
>>> coordination efforts related to the original vision of the IGC Charter (see
>>> attached), join the IGC and that Bestbits is closed, with an automatic
>>> response instituted for those posting on Bestbits, redirecting them to join
>>> IGC. Within IGC, following this merger, we propose that those interested
>>> form a small drafting group to draft a revised and more lightweight version
>>> of the Charter. Those present also agreed to work towards the organisation
>>> of a day 0 event before the global IGF this year in Berlin, in concert with
>>> German civil society groups. The day 0 event will be dedicated to
>>> finalising the revised Charter and sharing updates on relevant global
>>> processes (the UN High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation & the UN First
>>> Committee processes on cybersecurity).
>>>
>>> If you have strong concerns or if you oppose the merger proposal as
>>> outlined above, please share your perspectives by *05 July*. Should
>>> there be no objections, we suggest the process as outlined is implemented
>>> after July 05. If you have any questions at all about the process so far,
>>> please do get in touch with us.
>>>
>>> Participants: Leena Romppainen (Effi), Gayatri Khandhadai (APC), Pavitra
>>> Ramanujam (APC), Sheetal Kumar (GPD), Anriette Esterhuysen (APC),
>>> Milton Mueller (Georgia Tech), Jamila Venturini (Derechos Digitales), Peter
>>> Micek (Access Now), Rafik Dammak, Bruna Martins dos Santos (Coding Rights),
>>> Nadira Alaraj, Bach Avezdjanov (Columbia Global Freedom of Expression),
>>> Arsene Tungali (Rudi International)
>>>
>>> Agenda followed:
>>> 1) Introductions
>>> 2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed
>>> 3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why
>>> organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be?
>>> 4) Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee? Agreement
>>> on roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 16:36, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to seeing those of you who can make it to our meeting
>>>> in Tunis tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> If you're attending to come but haven't yet let me know, please drop me
>>>> a line if you can.
>>>>
>>>> Please find the details below:
>>>>
>>>> *Where:* Room DOUGGA on Tuesday, June 11th from 9am-12:30pm
>>>>
>>>> *Why/Aims/intended outcome:*
>>>>
>>>>    -
>>>> *Agreed next steps for organising a day 0 event *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *What/the agenda: *
>>>>
>>>> *1) Introductions (15 minutes)*
>>>>
>>>> *2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed (15 minutes)*
>>>>
>>>> *3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why
>>>> organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be?
>>>> (1-1.5 hours)*
>>>> *4) Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee?
>>>> Agreement on roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps (45
>>>> minutes) *
>>>>
>>>> Do let me know if you have any questions!
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> *Best*
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 10:24, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Following on from my previous email, we will have our meeting to plan
>>>>> the IGF day 0 event on Day 0 of RightsCon. See the details below:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Room Dougga
>>>>>    - June 11, *9am-12:30pm *
>>>>>    - Hôtel LAICO, Ave Mohamed V, Tunis, Tunisia
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can't make it but will be at RightsCon and would like to be
>>>>> part of the discussions, let me know as I we can find time to meet
>>>>> before/after the event. I've set up a thread for those who expressed
>>>>> interest in this effort so I can add you to that too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope to see many of you soon!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 11:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your replies. I've also received a few replies
>>>>>> off-thread expressing interest in the effort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Bach - thank you for the kind offer! We've secured a space at the
>>>>>> RightsCon venue but that would have been very helpful if not! Will you be
>>>>>> at RightsCon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the way forward:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Please let me know if you are at RightsCon and would like to
>>>>>>    attend that first meeting as there is limited space but of course we'd like
>>>>>>    to accommodate everyone who can attend
>>>>>>    - If you are not at RightsCon and still interested then please do
>>>>>>    get in touch anyway, as we will be keeping everyone updated and you can
>>>>>>    input into the meeting agenda (and maybe even the discussions if we have
>>>>>>    good wifi)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 20:19, Bakhtiyor Avezdjanov <
>>>>>> ba2482 at columbia.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Columbia University has a center in Tunis, and I could inquire if we
>>>>>>> could use it for a Day 0 meeting, if it takes place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please let me know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bach Avezdjanov
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Program Officer, Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Email: ba2482 at columbia.edu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phone: 212 854 1591
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Twitter: @ColumbiaGFOE <https://twitter.com/ColumbiaGFOE>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>>>> <https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:
>>>>>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of *Lee W McKnight
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:07 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; sivasubramanian muthusamy; Akinremi Peter
>>>>>>> Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt <
>>>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance; Sheetal Kumar
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the
>>>>>>> future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for this. I agree with the Day 0 meeting idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For me this feels quite deja vu-ish of the (2nd?) IGF in Hyderabad
>>>>>>> where the Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and the DC on Internet
>>>>>>> Principles had a joint meeting to discuss overlaps; we left with a Dynamic
>>>>>>> Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles. Which eventually led to the
>>>>>>> creation and translation of the Charter on Internet Rights and Principles
>>>>>>> among other positive outcomes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, I am optimistic an IGC-CSCG (sp?) can move forward out of this;
>>>>>>> ie among IGC's tasks going forward is to help energize also the cross-CS
>>>>>>> coordination right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which has to be done with BestBits 'Get it done' mindset and methods
>>>>>>> embedded; vs IGC's at its worst eternal faculty meeting feel (at times to
>>>>>>> this prof).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net <
>>>>>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net> on behalf of Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2019 12:40:53 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; Sheetal Kumar; sivasubramanian muthusamy;
>>>>>>> Akinremi Peter Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt <
>>>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the
>>>>>>> future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Following our discussions, and some discussions among some of  those
>>>>>>> of us who attended the last call four weeks ago (notes & participants
>>>>>>> here:  https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture), see
>>>>>>> below what some of us propose as a hopefully straightforward plan going
>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - IGC and Bestbits list members work together to organise a day
>>>>>>>    0 event at IGF
>>>>>>>    - Volunteers from both lists come together in an informal
>>>>>>>    steering committee to organise the event - you don't have to identify as
>>>>>>>    'Bestbits'/IGC necessarily and can agree how to approach the organisation
>>>>>>>    of the event however they see fit
>>>>>>>    - Members of other lists are invited to join once an informal
>>>>>>>    agenda has been put together
>>>>>>>    - Those who are present at RightsCon and interested in this
>>>>>>>    effort come together to discuss preliminary ideas - to include the idea of
>>>>>>>    focusing the day 0 event on reviving IGC (and many others that have already
>>>>>>>    been proposed)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Although after all this to-ing and fro-ing it may sound like we've
>>>>>>> now decided to just organise a meeting again I hope you will agree that the
>>>>>>> discussions had so far, the interest and commitment to global level
>>>>>>> coordination, would be usefully served by collectively putting together an
>>>>>>> agenda that responds to the interests of those committed to these efforts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please provide your views on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for those who joined the call yesterday. Once I have the
>>>>>>> recording I'll send it around. In the meantime, you can see a short summary
>>>>>>> at the top of the etherpad. Apologies for its staccato nature but it should
>>>>>>> provide an overview of what we discussed: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In essence, we discussed the reasons that these discussions about
>>>>>>> civil society coordination have recently re-surfaced and those on the call
>>>>>>> reiterated the commitment to global-level coordination and the need to work
>>>>>>> together in a less fragmented way. We looked at the survey results and
>>>>>>> discussed the fact that although about half of the respondents supported
>>>>>>> exploring a 'merger' with IGC, around half also thought expanding the
>>>>>>> mandate of the CSCG could be an option. However, those on the call
>>>>>>> mentioned that the historical standing of the IGC is important to leverage
>>>>>>> and there is complementary between Bestbits and IGCs mandates. Therefore,
>>>>>>> we shouldn't lose that in whatever we choose to do going forward.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We discussed that proposing something more concrete to the IGC would
>>>>>>> be helpful in terms of how a 'merger' could work. We were cognizant of the
>>>>>>> limited number of the people on the call, so we agreed to put something
>>>>>>> short together and then to share it with you for your feedback before
>>>>>>> sharing it with IGC. At the moment, we're working on that simple proposal
>>>>>>> to share with you. I'll share it shortly. If anyone else on the call wants
>>>>>>> to chime in with more information please do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have any questions, please do let us know!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 14:10, Tapani Tarvainen <
>>>>>>> tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I couldn't get bluejeans to work for me. I trust someone will
>>>>>>> report on the meeting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On huhti 10 13:11, Sheetal Kumar (sheetal at gp-digital.org) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Dear all,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > This is just a quick reminder that we'll be meeting in under an
>>>>>>> hour at 1
>>>>>>> > PM UTC (see the link below).
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Best
>>>>>>> > Sheetal.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Meeting room details
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > *Meeting URL*
>>>>>>> > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Meeting ID
>>>>>>> > 524 189 381
>>>>>>> > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>>>>> > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>>>> > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>>>> > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Connecting from a room system?
>>>>>>> > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID &
>>>>>>> passcode
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 13:39, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > > Dear all
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > As promised, please find below the details for meeting us on
>>>>>>> *Wednesday,
>>>>>>> > > April 10 at 1 PM UTC*. I've included the agenda further below
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Best
>>>>>>> > > Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Meeting room details
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > *Meeting URL*
>>>>>>> > > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Meeting ID
>>>>>>> > > 524 189 381
>>>>>>> > > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>>>>> > > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>>>> > > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>>>> > > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Connecting from a room system?
>>>>>>> > > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID &
>>>>>>> passcode
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Any civil society stakeholders interested in the discussion
>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>> > > improving coordination are welcome so please share with anyone
>>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Suggested agenda
>>>>>>> > > 1) Grounding: why are we having this discussion/a recap of
>>>>>>> what's happened
>>>>>>> > > so far
>>>>>>> > > 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>>>>> > > 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>>>>> > > 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 08:55, sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>>>>> > > 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> Dear Akinremi,
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> I was wondering if the discussion so far has reached the
>>>>>>> participants of
>>>>>>> > >> the Governance list, especially the thinking that "discussion
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> > >> merging should be limited to each group".  If riseup.net is
>>>>>>> working,
>>>>>>> > >> then I do not have concerns.
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> Thank you.
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>>>>> > >> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>>>>> > >> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> I don't understand what you mean by saying igcaucus.org
>>>>>>> mailbox is not
>>>>>>> > >>> receiving messages. IGC is currently hosted on riseup.net
>>>>>>> mailing-list.
>>>>>>> > >>> Please can you help me understand what you are trying to do so
>>>>>>> as to be
>>>>>>> > >>> able to help.
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Regards.
>>>>>>> > >>> Peter
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:12 AM sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>>>>> > >>> 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> I wasn't aware that it was formally decided by the Bestbits
>>>>>>> list to
>>>>>>> > >>>> discuss this list-wise. Posting a note here on a different
>>>>>>> problem. The
>>>>>>> > >>>> igcaucus. org mailbox is NOT receiving messages, who is
>>>>>>> managing the
>>>>>>> > >>>> Governance lists please?
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>>>>> > >>>> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:03 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>>>>> > >>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> I think what was agreed was that the survey should be
>>>>>>> limited to
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Bestbit only and that the discussion about merging should be
>>>>>>> limited to
>>>>>>> > >>>>> each group. This would enable each group to do a kind of an
>>>>>>> independent
>>>>>>> > >>>>> assessment that would inform the decision of whether the
>>>>>>> group should cease
>>>>>>> > >>>>> or merge. Also, I could remember that some folks on the IGC
>>>>>>> group wants IGC
>>>>>>> > >>>>> to remain as it is.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> @Deirdre Williams I remembered I openly shared some contacts
>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>> > >>>>> IGC list back then, which might be the privacy issue you are
>>>>>>> referring to.
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Aside of that, I don't think I was in the picture of any
>>>>>>> privacy issue that
>>>>>>> > >>>>> affected the group. Maybe Jeremy could throw more light on
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> I could also remembered during the review of CSCG, part of
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> > >>>>> discussion was to accommodate regional civil society
>>>>>>> organization in the
>>>>>>> > >>>>> sphere of IG but the challenge of the individual wearing
>>>>>>> many hat remains.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Peter
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:41 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>>> > >>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> With apologies for cross-posting, I see a limited response,
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> about 8 respondents.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Is there a corresponding message on the IGC list?  Possibly
>>>>>>> the poll
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> announcement hasn't reached those who are subscribed only
>>>>>>> to the IGC list.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> (or because the title of the message says "future of
>>>>>>> Bestbits" rather than
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> say "future of IG Civil Society".
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:41 PM Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It's been really great to see the level of engagement in
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> conversations about strengthening civil society
>>>>>>> coordination, and I know
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> there's a lot of interest in not losing motivation. The
>>>>>>> conversations have
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> been premised on a general interest in changing the
>>>>>>> current situation
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (namely Bestbits being inactive as a coordination
>>>>>>> network), and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> collectively finding ways to strengthen global civil
>>>>>>> society coordination
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> on the issues we work on.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hopefully the conversations so far, and the survey which
>>>>>>> gathered a
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> broader array of views, have been helpful. I attached a
>>>>>>> summary report of
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> the survey in my last email. At the last IGF in Paris
>>>>>>> there was discussion
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> of holding a meeting at RightsCon this year. Before we do
>>>>>>> that however, it
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> would be good to discuss the responses to the survey and
>>>>>>> agree a way
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm including a doodle below, with a suggested agenda. It
>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> great if you could fill it out by 29 March so I can
>>>>>>> confirm the date and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> set up a room.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/vyfn2zdxzt8wqzis
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Suggested agenda*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Looking forward to building on your energy and
>>>>>>> contributions so far!
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you very much to those who completed the survey. I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> attached the anonymised results as a text document, with
>>>>>>> a summary included
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> at the top in case useful.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> As a next step I would suggest a split call, with the
>>>>>>> first half
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> spent discussing the results and suggesting a way forward
>>>>>>> (45 minutes-1
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> hour) and the second half, if deemed necessary, with IGC
>>>>>>> founders and other
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> key members of IGC. We could arrange that as a separate
>>>>>>> call too.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The aim of the calls so far and the survey have been to
>>>>>>> find a way
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> to promote *more* civil society coordination, and thus to
>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the current state of affairs. I hope that they help in
>>>>>>> finding a way
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> forward which does this and in so doing, responds to the
>>>>>>> widest possible
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> range of opinion. Should you have any other suggestions
>>>>>>> on how to proceed,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> please do chime in! Otherwise, I'll send around a doodle
>>>>>>> for a follow up
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> call.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:02, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> We've received a useful number of responses but it would
>>>>>>> be great
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> to hear from more people about the future of Bestbits.
>>>>>>> If you could fill
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> out the survey by COB this Friday that would be much
>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'll then likely send out a doodle for another call to
>>>>>>> decide next
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> steps next week.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 11:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We've got some great responses to the survey so thank
>>>>>>> you to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> those who have responded already.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The survey is still open so please do lend your views
>>>>>>> if you can,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> by using the link below. The survey responses will feed
>>>>>>> into the next set
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> of discussions on the future of Bestbits.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 09:37, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Following a call and discussion on this thread, please
>>>>>>> see a
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> survey below to gather your views on the future of
>>>>>>> Bestbits. Following a
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> call on February 11 with members of Bestbits, as well
>>>>>>> as members of IGC, it
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> was agreed that a survey would be circulated to gather
>>>>>>> views of all members.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The survey is preceded by a background information
>>>>>>> note which
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of the discussions so far, and
>>>>>>> links to the summaries of
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> calls.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319&lang=en
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> As a member of the Bestbits mailing list, you are
>>>>>>> invited to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey. To inform future discussions in a
>>>>>>> timely way, please
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey *by 08 March*. Should you have any
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> questions at all, don't hesitate to get in touch.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing your views!
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 20:08, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to those who participated in the call
>>>>>>> yesterday. For
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> those who couldn't attend the call, you'll find the
>>>>>>> list of participants
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and notes here:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We had a rich discussion about the possible ways
>>>>>>> forward for
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits, building on the previous conversation in
>>>>>>> December and the
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread since.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, there was general agreement that both
>>>>>>> Bestbits and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> IGC have been facing challenges in fulfilling their
>>>>>>> objectives,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> particularly when it comes to coordination and we
>>>>>>> agreed to circulate a
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> survey to both lists to gather perspectives on four
>>>>>>> suggested ways forward
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> which were discussed on the call. It was suggested
>>>>>>> that this survey with
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the broader communities feed into a decision on the
>>>>>>> future of the
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> platforms. The survey will be circulated shortly to
>>>>>>> both lists shortly,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and your participation would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:47, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a gentle reminder that the call on next
>>>>>>> steps is
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this coming Monday, 11 February from* 4- 6 PM UTC*.
>>>>>>> The full
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> details are included in my previous email and I've
>>>>>>> updated the
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etherpad <
>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with those planning to attend.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 10:07, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for filling out the doodle! It seems the
>>>>>>> best time
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the call is* 4-6 PM UTC on February 11*. The
>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> details of the call, including how to join, are
>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Farzaneh for setting up the room. Looking
>>>>>>> forward
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to speaking to as many of you as possible on the
>>>>>>> 11th!
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bestbits call: Future pathways *
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date and time: *
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 February, 4:00-6:00 PM UTC <
>>>>>>> http://worldtimebuddy.com/>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Online Meeting room: *
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join the Meeting:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bluejeans.com/819760256
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via Room System:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Video Conferencing System: bjn.vc
>>>>>>> -or-199.48.152.152
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting ID : 819760256
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via phone :
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1)  Dial:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.888.240.2560 (US Toll Free)
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see all numbers - http://bluejeans.com/numbers)
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2)  Enter Conference ID : 819760256
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that if you call in, your phone number
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear on the Bluejeans room page. We would like to
>>>>>>> record and share the
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link with the BestBits network on the mailing list.
>>>>>>> Please let us know if
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do not want the recording to be shared on an
>>>>>>> open mailing list if you
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call in.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Proposed agenda: *
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aim: *to discuss the future of the Bestbits and
>>>>>>> IGC lists,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including the possibility of a merger + other
>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and
>>>>>>> issues faced in
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each network
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>>>>>> lists/establishment
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo - using lists as
>>>>>>> information sharing
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process
>>>>>>> for decision
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making regarding future of the lists
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *RSVP on etherpad*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've put the agenda in this pad
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've also added the names of those who indicated
>>>>>>> they were available for
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the call at this time. Of course, as a Bestbits
>>>>>>> member you can join the
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call without indicating that in the pad, this is
>>>>>>> just to have a vague idea
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of numbers.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:13, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been great to see the engagement on this
>>>>>>> topic, and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to those who have shared their perspectives
>>>>>>> and the relevant
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents too.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In December when we had the call we agreed to
>>>>>>> touch base
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again in the middle of January to agree a way
>>>>>>> forward. The discussions here
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide rich ground for the discussion, and
>>>>>>> Farzaneh has kindly offered to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up a conference call space for us.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am circulating below a doodle for our second
>>>>>>> call to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide next steps. This is a suggested agenda:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and
>>>>>>> issues faced
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in each network
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>>>>>> lists/establishment
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo, e.g using lists
>>>>>>> as information sharing
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each approach
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision making regarding future of Bestbits
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having spoken to those who arranged the last call,
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest only Bestbits members are invited but that
>>>>>>> we also reach out to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some IGC folks to help provide some background and
>>>>>>> inform the discussion
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/yzmbvibwp6n4s976
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everyone could fill out the doodle by the end
>>>>>>> of next
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week (Friday, 25 Jan) we can set a time and send
>>>>>>> the conference room link
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:10, Deirdre Williams <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the cross-posting.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been following this discussion with care,
>>>>>>> and have a
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of questions which seem to fall in line
>>>>>>> with what Nnenna and Jeremy
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are saying.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If we had more or less stopped sharing
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information/discussing things/ working together
>>>>>>> within IGC and Bestbits
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately, would merging the two groups again
>>>>>>> really improve participation?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is there a way for us to look at what needs to
>>>>>>> be done,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we want to do, how we want to do it?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Who are "we"? Are we the same as the people
>>>>>>> who started
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGC and Bestbits - same objectives, same
>>>>>>> perceptions and perspectives, same
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priorities?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without answers to these questions it seems
>>>>>>> unlikely that
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would make much progress.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purely as an illustration please consider IRPC
>>>>>>> (which many
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us also belong to) which is currently having
>>>>>>> some difficulty with
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifying volunteers to carry out management
>>>>>>> tasks for the group.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil society still needs a means to discuss
>>>>>>> issues and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a common voice, but is this the right way to
>>>>>>> do that now or do we need
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to devise something different?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes for 2019
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deirdre
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 14:09, Jeremy Malcolm <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at malcolm.id.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/19 2:01 AM, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who were part of the first Steering
>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bestbits -
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could you share more information about how it
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituted and why?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was because IGC discourse had become toxic and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysfunctional, and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were dropping out. It had been a while
>>>>>>> since it had
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree on a joint statement. At the same time,
>>>>>>> the 2012 ITU
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WCIT was
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up, and being able to collaborate on
>>>>>>> joint action
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was important,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a few conversations between people both
>>>>>>> inside and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of IGC
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in them becoming the first volunteer
>>>>>>> steering
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then the same civil society politics that
>>>>>>> had driven
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the IGC into
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ground started to disrupt Best Bits too.
>>>>>>> There were
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (misplaced but
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaging) allegations about various participants
>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden agendas
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not being transparent enough about their own
>>>>>>> funding.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So whereas the
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original committee had been fairly lightweight
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informal, pressure to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt more formal mechanisms of accountability
>>>>>>> resulted in
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us investing
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of time in creating a more elaborate set
>>>>>>> of rules
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and processes.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, this was too heavy and people
>>>>>>> weren't
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in these new processes, indicating that
>>>>>>> the more
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure had probably been better.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there was a group of willing people who could
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resuscitate Best Bits,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even without formal elections, I'd be all for
>>>>>>> that. But I
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is. I personally have given as much time
>>>>>>> to it as
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give, because I'm focusing my energy on my new
>>>>>>> nonprofit
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prostasia
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation now.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet lawyer, ICT policy advocate, geek
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo "9EEAi^^;6C6]>J^=^>6"|tr '\!-~'
>>>>>>> 'P-~\!-O'|wget -q -i
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -O -
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the
>>>>>>> list:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize
>>>>>>> Economics, 1979
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
>>>>>>> 114D 173B
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
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>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
>>>>>>> > >>>>> about.me/petertaiwoakinremi
>>>>>>> > >>>>> <
>>>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> <
>>>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
>>>>>>> > >>> about.me/petertaiwoakinremi
>>>>>>> > >>> <
>>>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > --
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
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> --
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>
> *Sheetal Kumar*
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> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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