[governance] IGF MAG Chair

sivasubramanian muthusamy (via governance Mailing List) governance at lists.riseup.net
Sat Jun 29 06:24:05 EDT 2019


I am sorry.

On Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 10:56 AM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello SM,
>
> Perhaps you didn't read the entire response - specifically towards the
> last paragraphs.
>
> Regards
>
> Sent from my mobile
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019, 10:49 sivasubramanian muthusamy, <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> Arsene,
>>
>> You haven't answered Ayden's question.
>>
>> Sivasubramanian M
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 6:11 AM Arsène Tungali <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In some circumstances, it is hard to balance confidentiality and
>>> openess/transparency, especially when those involved in the process haven’t
>>> discussed and agreed upon the level of confidentiality and transparency to
>>> consider for such a process. Trying to say something that I hope comes
>>> across clearly as i am thinking about it.
>>>
>>> I am glad that finally this community is discussing this topic but as i
>>> think I said, it is too late. When i started this thread, that was the best
>>> moment and opportunity for this community to shape the process somehow. One
>>> of the things i expected was a good discussion about the ideal candidate in
>>> order to help us better carry the responsibility we were given by the
>>> Secretariat.
>>>
>>> We will always complain about CS MAG members not consulting with their
>>> group but until we are able to have one voice, in a single platform where
>>> these types of communications can happen, the same will remain. I am
>>> referring here to the other thread about merging/uniting under one label. I
>>> feel connected to this group because i feel like i belong here and it is
>>> this group that sent me to the MAG this year, that’s why i am doing my best
>>> to keep you in the loop whenever i am able to.
>>>
>>> But we should remember that not all CS MAG members belong here, that’s
>>> why you don’t read them here. Maybe they have another group/community where
>>> they feel connected to and where they consult. Many were not selected
>>> through the CSCG!
>>>
>>> Back the discussion re: MAG Chair.
>>>
>>> As i said, since the level of transparency was not discussed within the
>>> CS group on the MAG, i could not share the names of those who showed
>>> interest in being considered for the position. I posted on this list when
>>> we were tasked to select names and i am sure that’s what triggered those
>>> interested to reach out privately either to me or to other CS MAG.
>>>
>>> Many of those candidates whose profiles were discussed are on this list
>>> and i am glad Anriette disclosed herself. And I would encourage the others
>>> to say it by themselves.
>>>
>>> To Ayden’s question: I will personally be comfortable to share the
>>> outcome of our discussions and deliberations once the process has
>>> officially ended and i even tend to think i should wait until the name of
>>> the selected had been published by the UN.
>>>
>>> My colleague Helany or anyone else can decide to proceed differently,
>>> again, it will be their choice since nothing was agreed upfront on
>>> disclosure. Sorry for making it feel like MAG members are that powerful :)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Arsene
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 28 Jun 2019, at 17:21, Ayden Férdeline <ayden at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Arsene,
>>>
>>> Can you please advise what name it is that you put forward?
>>>
>>> I apologise, I must have missed the consultation with civil society here
>>> - I have been a bit behind on reading emails lately.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>
>>>
>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>> On Friday, 28 June 2019 12:07, Arsène Tungali <
>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> It would have been through MAG members but it is too late at this stage
>>> as many have already made their minds on the candidate per stakeholder
>>> group. For CS, we have made our mind on one name that was communicated to
>>> the Secretariat.
>>>
>>> My apologies for brievity and typo, boarding a flight now
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 28 Jun 2019, at 12:04, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there a particular announcement against which one can send name
>>> suggestions?
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Fouad
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 11:59 AM Arsène Tungali <
>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> MAG Chair selection has always been the responsibility of the UN,
>>>> through the UNDESA as far as i know. This year, MAG members have been asked
>>>> to discuss and suggest names. There is no point for this to go through any
>>>> formal CS consultation
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On 28 Jun 2019, at 11:52, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Helani, Arsene, all
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for sharing this information. Is there any information on the
>>>> process for selection? Is there a timeline in mind? We could request CSCG
>>>> to run this,
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 10:27, Helani Galpaya <helani at lirneasia.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Aresene and others:
>>>>> Where is the discussion and nomination process taking place for the
>>>>> Civil Society nomination(s) for MAG chair?
>>>>> I mean in which list?
>>>>> Apologies if these questions were answered elsewhere and I'm just not
>>>>> seeing it.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Helani
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Helani Galpaya
>>>>> LIRNEasia
>>>>> www.lirneasia.net
>>>>> +94 77 3600 766 (m-LK); +44 7415 865222 (m-UK)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 7:39 PM Arsène Tungali <
>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you know, the current MAG Chair is Lynn St Amour, she is ending
>>>>>> her term this year!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a need to have another chair starting right after IGF
>>>>>> Berlin. Was wondering, maybe we need to discuss the profile of a good MAG
>>>>>> Chair?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Though we will not choose on this list, but wanted to share that
>>>>>> consultations are going on within different stakeholder groups within the
>>>>>> MAG, each one of them being asked to suggest a name (s) to the IGF
>>>>>> Secretariat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just throwing this out here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arsene
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