[governance] [bestbits] The proposal for closing Bestbits and merging with IGC + next steps (was "Follow-on from survey on the future of Bestbits: next steps")

Sheetal Kumar sheetal at gp-digital.org
Fri Jul 19 09:44:45 EDT 2019


 Dear all,

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*Agenda:*
1) Closure of Bestbits: agreement on date and process
2) Moving to IGC: what is the current status? What is happening/what to
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3) Organisation of civil society day 0 event: discussion of timeline
4) AOB

I look forward to speaking to many of you soon!

Best
Sheetal.

On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 at 15:57, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Thank you to those who have already filled in the doodle to discuss next
> steps. This is just a polite reminder to fill in the doodle if you haven't
> already. You can find it here: https://doodle.com/poll/fy4mgf68qehhhh26
>
> I'll send around the confirmation of the date at the end of next week, so
> please do indicate your availability by 25 July.
>
> Best
> Sheetal
>
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 at 10:07, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Thank you for your responses to the proposal to merge IGC and Bestbits
>> into one list. This proposal requires the closing of Bestbits and therefore
>> we will proceed with this course of action.
>>
>> I am including below a doodle to arrange a call to discuss next steps,
>> including the organisation of a day 0 event at the global IGF in Berlin in
>> November. The proposal for an event has been accepted, but the event is for
>> 2.5 hours only, not the full day event originally proposed. On the call we
>> suggest discussing reviving the IGC website, the proposal to conduct a
>> revision of the IGC Charter, and elections. We'll also agree the process
>> for closing Bestbits, and the outreach necessary to ensure that the
>> information is communicated in a clear and transparent way.
>>
>> Please indicate your availability for this call here: https://doodle.com/poll/fy4mgf68qehhhh26
>>
>>
>> Thanks everyone!
>>
>> Best
>> Sheetal.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>
>> On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 14:28, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Sheetal,
>>>
>>> I concur accordingly and have no objections at all to the proposal so I
>>> have no further inputs.
>>>
>>> Poncelet
>>>
>>> Kind Regards
>>>
>>> Poncelet
>>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 13:24, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all those who have inputted so far! It's great to see support
>>>> for the proposal shared earlier this month. This is just a gentle reminder
>>>> to weigh in on the proposal before *July 5th*, which I've recopied in
>>>> italics below.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>> *Meeting of IGC & BB participants, June 11th, 2019, RightsCon, Tunis*
>>>>
>>>> *Following a discussion of the history of coordination efforts from
>>>> those who had been involved in the early set up of the IGC, and a
>>>> discussion of what is needed to address challenges to information sharing &
>>>> coordination, those present agreed that the proposal for combining, or
>>>> consolidating, efforts should be taken forward (this was one of the four
>>>> options suggested in a survey to Bestbits members earlier this year - see
>>>> attached). This discussion also draws on and continues a series of online
>>>> conversations facilitated by members of IGC and Bestbits, which you can see
>>>> a summary of here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>. There was a need
>>>> identified for more streamlined information sharing and expectation that
>>>> opportunities to collaborate around common priorities or issues will arise
>>>> from more structured and streamlined information sharing. It was also
>>>> agreed that the current IGC Charter could form a basis for a future
>>>> document but that it should be revisited and a more lightweight and general
>>>> framework should be developed.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Therefore, the group proposes that those interested in civil society
>>>> coordination efforts related to the original vision of the IGC Charter (see
>>>> attached), join the IGC and that Bestbits is closed, with an automatic
>>>> response instituted for those posting on Bestbits, redirecting them to join
>>>> IGC. Within IGC, following this merger, we propose that those interested
>>>> form a small drafting group to draft a revised and more lightweight version
>>>> of the Charter. Those present also agreed to work towards the organisation
>>>> of a day 0 event before the global IGF this year in Berlin, in concert with
>>>> German civil society groups. The day 0 event will be dedicated to
>>>> finalising the revised Charter and sharing updates on relevant global
>>>> processes (the UN High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation & the UN First
>>>> Committee processes on cybersecurity). *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *If you have strong concerns or if you oppose the merger proposal as
>>>> outlined above, please share your perspectives by 05 July. Should there be
>>>> no objections, we suggest the process as outlined is implemented after July
>>>> 05. If you have any questions at all about the process so far, please do
>>>> get in touch with us.*
>>>>
>>>> *Participants: Leena Romppainen (Effi), Gayatri Khandhadai (APC),
>>>> Pavitra Ramanujam (APC), Sheetal Kumar (GPD), Anriette Esterhuysen (APC),
>>>> Milton Mueller (Georgia Tech), Jamila Venturini (Derechos Digitales), Peter
>>>> Micek (Access Now), Rafik Dammak, Bruna Martins dos Santos (Coding Rights),
>>>> Nadira Alaraj, Bach Avezdjanov (Columbia Global Freedom of Expression),
>>>> Arsene Tungali (Rudi International)*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Agenda followed:*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *1) Introductions 2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed
>>>> 3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why
>>>> organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be? 4)
>>>> Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee? Agreement on
>>>> roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps *
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 14:53, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> A better option.
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Remmy Nweke
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 18:57 Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am writing here on behalf of the thirteen members of IGC and/or
>>>>>> Bestbits which met on June 11, day 0 of RightsCon in Tunis to take forward
>>>>>> our discussion on how to better coordinate civil society efforts (see
>>>>>> agenda & participants at bottom of this email). Please see our proposal
>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Following a discussion of the history of coordination efforts from
>>>>>> those who had been involved in the early set up of the IGC, and a
>>>>>> discussion of what is needed to address challenges to information sharing &
>>>>>> coordination, those present agreed that the proposal for combining, or
>>>>>> consolidating, efforts should be taken forward (this was one of the four
>>>>>> options suggested in a survey to Bestbits members earlier this year - see
>>>>>> attached). This discussion also draws on and continues a series of online
>>>>>> conversations facilitated by members of IGC and Bestbits, which you can see
>>>>>> a summary of here:
>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture. There was a
>>>>>> need identified for more streamlined information sharing and expectation
>>>>>> that opportunities to collaborate around common priorities or issues will
>>>>>> arise from more structured and streamlined information sharing. It was also
>>>>>> agreed that the current IGC Charter could form a basis for a future
>>>>>> document but that it should be revisited and a more lightweight and general
>>>>>> framework should be developed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Therefore, the group proposes that those interested in civil society
>>>>>> coordination efforts related to the original vision of the IGC Charter (see
>>>>>> attached), join the IGC and that Bestbits is closed, with an automatic
>>>>>> response instituted for those posting on Bestbits, redirecting them to join
>>>>>> IGC. Within IGC, following this merger, we propose that those interested
>>>>>> form a small drafting group to draft a revised and more lightweight version
>>>>>> of the Charter. Those present also agreed to work towards the organisation
>>>>>> of a day 0 event before the global IGF this year in Berlin, in concert with
>>>>>> German civil society groups. The day 0 event will be dedicated to
>>>>>> finalising the revised Charter and sharing updates on relevant global
>>>>>> processes (the UN High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation & the UN First
>>>>>> Committee processes on cybersecurity).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have strong concerns or if you oppose the merger proposal as
>>>>>> outlined above, please share your perspectives by *05 July*. Should
>>>>>> there be no objections, we suggest the process as outlined is implemented
>>>>>> after July 05. If you have any questions at all about the process so far,
>>>>>> please do get in touch with us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Participants: Leena Romppainen (Effi), Gayatri Khandhadai (APC), Pavitra
>>>>>> Ramanujam (APC), Sheetal Kumar (GPD), Anriette Esterhuysen (APC),
>>>>>> Milton Mueller (Georgia Tech), Jamila Venturini (Derechos Digitales), Peter
>>>>>> Micek (Access Now), Rafik Dammak, Bruna Martins dos Santos (Coding Rights),
>>>>>> Nadira Alaraj, Bach Avezdjanov (Columbia Global Freedom of
>>>>>> Expression), Arsene Tungali (Rudi International)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agenda followed:
>>>>>> 1) Introductions
>>>>>> 2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed
>>>>>> 3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why
>>>>>> organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be?
>>>>>> 4) Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee?
>>>>>> Agreement on roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 16:36, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to seeing those of you who can make it to our
>>>>>>> meeting in Tunis tomorrow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you're attending to come but haven't yet let me know, please drop
>>>>>>> me a line if you can.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please find the details below:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Where:* Room DOUGGA on Tuesday, June 11th from 9am-12:30pm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Why/Aims/intended outcome:*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>> *Agreed next steps for organising a day 0 event *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *What/the agenda: *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *1) Introductions (15 minutes)*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed (15 minutes)*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it?
>>>>>>> Why organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to
>>>>>>> be? (1-1.5 hours)*
>>>>>>> *4) Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee?
>>>>>>> Agreement on roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps (45
>>>>>>> minutes) *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do let me know if you have any questions!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Best*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sheetal.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 10:24, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Following on from my previous email, we will have our meeting to
>>>>>>>> plan the IGF day 0 event on Day 0 of RightsCon. See the details below:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Room Dougga
>>>>>>>>    - June 11, *9am-12:30pm *
>>>>>>>>    - Hôtel LAICO, Ave Mohamed V, Tunis, Tunisia
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you can't make it but will be at RightsCon and would like to be
>>>>>>>> part of the discussions, let me know as I we can find time to meet
>>>>>>>> before/after the event. I've set up a thread for those who expressed
>>>>>>>> interest in this effort so I can add you to that too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope to see many of you soon!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 11:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your replies. I've also received a few replies
>>>>>>>>> off-thread expressing interest in the effort.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Bach - thank you for the kind offer! We've secured a space at the
>>>>>>>>> RightsCon venue but that would have been very helpful if not! Will you be
>>>>>>>>> at RightsCon?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On the way forward:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - Please let me know if you are at RightsCon and would like to
>>>>>>>>>    attend that first meeting as there is limited space but of course we'd like
>>>>>>>>>    to accommodate everyone who can attend
>>>>>>>>>    - If you are not at RightsCon and still interested then please
>>>>>>>>>    do get in touch anyway, as we will be keeping everyone updated and you can
>>>>>>>>>    input into the meeting agenda (and maybe even the discussions if we have
>>>>>>>>>    good wifi)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 20:19, Bakhtiyor Avezdjanov <
>>>>>>>>> ba2482 at columbia.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Columbia University has a center in Tunis, and I could inquire if
>>>>>>>>>> we could use it for a Day 0 meeting, if it takes place.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bach Avezdjanov
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Program Officer, Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Email: ba2482 at columbia.edu
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 212 854 1591
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @ColumbiaGFOE <https://twitter.com/ColumbiaGFOE>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>>>>>>> <https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subscribe to our Weekly News Letter!
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of *Lee W
>>>>>>>>>> McKnight
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:07 PM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; sivasubramanian muthusamy; Akinremi
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt <
>>>>>>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance; Sheetal Kumar
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on
>>>>>>>>>> the future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for this. I agree with the Day 0 meeting idea.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For me this feels quite deja vu-ish of the (2nd?) IGF in
>>>>>>>>>> Hyderabad where the Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and the DC on
>>>>>>>>>> Internet Principles had a joint meeting to discuss overlaps; we left with a
>>>>>>>>>> Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles. Which eventually led
>>>>>>>>>> to the creation and translation of the Charter on Internet Rights and
>>>>>>>>>> Principles among other positive outcomes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So, I am optimistic an IGC-CSCG (sp?) can move forward out of
>>>>>>>>>> this; ie among IGC's tasks going forward is to help energize also the
>>>>>>>>>> cross-CS coordination right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Which has to be done with BestBits 'Get it done' mindset and
>>>>>>>>>> methods embedded; vs IGC's at its worst eternal faculty meeting feel (at
>>>>>>>>>> times to this prof).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net <
>>>>>>>>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net> on behalf of Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2019 12:40:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; Sheetal Kumar; sivasubramanian
>>>>>>>>>> muthusamy; Akinremi Peter Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt
>>>>>>>>>> < governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on
>>>>>>>>>> the future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Following our discussions, and some discussions among some of
>>>>>>>>>> those of us who attended the last call four weeks ago (notes & participants
>>>>>>>>>> here:  https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture), see
>>>>>>>>>> below what some of us propose as a hopefully straightforward plan going
>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    - IGC and Bestbits list members work together to organise a
>>>>>>>>>>    day 0 event at IGF
>>>>>>>>>>    - Volunteers from both lists come together in an informal
>>>>>>>>>>    steering committee to organise the event - you don't have to identify as
>>>>>>>>>>    'Bestbits'/IGC necessarily and can agree how to approach the organisation
>>>>>>>>>>    of the event however they see fit
>>>>>>>>>>    - Members of other lists are invited to join once an informal
>>>>>>>>>>    agenda has been put together
>>>>>>>>>>    - Those who are present at RightsCon and interested in this
>>>>>>>>>>    effort come together to discuss preliminary ideas - to include the idea of
>>>>>>>>>>    focusing the day 0 event on reviving IGC (and many others that have already
>>>>>>>>>>    been proposed)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Although after all this to-ing and fro-ing it may sound like
>>>>>>>>>> we've now decided to just organise a meeting again I hope you will agree
>>>>>>>>>> that the discussions had so far, the interest and commitment to global
>>>>>>>>>> level coordination, would be usefully served by collectively putting
>>>>>>>>>> together an agenda that responds to the interests of those committed to
>>>>>>>>>> these efforts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please provide your views on this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:30, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for those who joined the call yesterday. Once I have the
>>>>>>>>>> recording I'll send it around. In the meantime, you can see a short summary
>>>>>>>>>> at the top of the etherpad. Apologies for its staccato nature but it should
>>>>>>>>>> provide an overview of what we discussed: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In essence, we discussed the reasons that these discussions about
>>>>>>>>>> civil society coordination have recently re-surfaced and those on the call
>>>>>>>>>> reiterated the commitment to global-level coordination and the need to work
>>>>>>>>>> together in a less fragmented way. We looked at the survey results and
>>>>>>>>>> discussed the fact that although about half of the respondents supported
>>>>>>>>>> exploring a 'merger' with IGC, around half also thought expanding the
>>>>>>>>>> mandate of the CSCG could be an option. However, those on the call
>>>>>>>>>> mentioned that the historical standing of the IGC is important to leverage
>>>>>>>>>> and there is complementary between Bestbits and IGCs mandates. Therefore,
>>>>>>>>>> we shouldn't lose that in whatever we choose to do going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We discussed that proposing something more concrete to the IGC
>>>>>>>>>> would be helpful in terms of how a 'merger' could work. We were cognizant
>>>>>>>>>> of the limited number of the people on the call, so we agreed to put
>>>>>>>>>> something short together and then to share it with you for your feedback
>>>>>>>>>> before sharing it with IGC. At the moment, we're working on that simple
>>>>>>>>>> proposal to share with you. I'll share it shortly. If anyone else on the
>>>>>>>>>> call wants to chime in with more information please do.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you have any questions, please do let us know!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 14:10, Tapani Tarvainen <
>>>>>>>>>> tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't get bluejeans to work for me. I trust someone will
>>>>>>>>>> report on the meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On huhti 10 13:11, Sheetal Kumar (sheetal at gp-digital.org) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > This is just a quick reminder that we'll be meeting in under an
>>>>>>>>>> hour at 1
>>>>>>>>>> > PM UTC (see the link below).
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Best
>>>>>>>>>> > Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Meeting room details
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > *Meeting URL*
>>>>>>>>>> > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Meeting ID
>>>>>>>>>> > 524 189 381
>>>>>>>>>> > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>>>>>>>> > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>>>>>>> > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>>>>>>> > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Connecting from a room system?
>>>>>>>>>> > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID &
>>>>>>>>>> passcode
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 13:39, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > > Dear all
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > As promised, please find below the details for meeting us on
>>>>>>>>>> *Wednesday,
>>>>>>>>>> > > April 10 at 1 PM UTC*. I've included the agenda further below
>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > Best
>>>>>>>>>> > > Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > Meeting room details
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > *Meeting URL*
>>>>>>>>>> > > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > Meeting ID
>>>>>>>>>> > > 524 189 381
>>>>>>>>>> > > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>>>>>>>> > > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>>>>>>> > > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>>>>>>> > > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > Connecting from a room system?
>>>>>>>>>> > > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID &
>>>>>>>>>> passcode
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > Any civil society stakeholders interested in the discussion
>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>> > > improving coordination are welcome so please share with
>>>>>>>>>> anyone relevant.
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > Suggested agenda
>>>>>>>>>> > > 1) Grounding: why are we having this discussion/a recap of
>>>>>>>>>> what's happened
>>>>>>>>>> > > so far
>>>>>>>>>> > > 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>>>>>>>> > > 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>>>>>>>> > > 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 08:55, sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>>>>>>>> > > 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Dear Akinremi,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> I was wondering if the discussion so far has reached the
>>>>>>>>>> participants of
>>>>>>>>>> > >> the Governance list, especially the thinking that
>>>>>>>>>> "discussion about
>>>>>>>>>> > >> merging should be limited to each group".  If riseup.net is
>>>>>>>>>> working,
>>>>>>>>>> > >> then I do not have concerns.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>>>>>>>> > >> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> I don't understand what you mean by saying igcaucus.org
>>>>>>>>>> mailbox is not
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> receiving messages. IGC is currently hosted on riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>> mailing-list.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> Please can you help me understand what you are trying to do
>>>>>>>>>> so as to be
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> able to help.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:12 AM sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> I wasn't aware that it was formally decided by the
>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits list to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> discuss this list-wise. Posting a note here on a different
>>>>>>>>>> problem. The
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> igcaucus. org mailbox is NOT receiving messages, who is
>>>>>>>>>> managing the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Governance lists please?
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:03 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> I think what was agreed was that the survey should be
>>>>>>>>>> limited to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Bestbit only and that the discussion about merging should
>>>>>>>>>> be limited to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> each group. This would enable each group to do a kind of
>>>>>>>>>> an independent
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> assessment that would inform the decision of whether the
>>>>>>>>>> group should cease
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> or merge. Also, I could remember that some folks on the
>>>>>>>>>> IGC group wants IGC
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> to remain as it is.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> @Deirdre Williams I remembered I openly shared some
>>>>>>>>>> contacts on the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> IGC list back then, which might be the privacy issue you
>>>>>>>>>> are referring to.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Aside of that, I don't think I was in the picture of any
>>>>>>>>>> privacy issue that
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> affected the group. Maybe Jeremy could throw more light
>>>>>>>>>> on this.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> I could also remembered during the review of CSCG, part
>>>>>>>>>> of our
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> discussion was to accommodate regional civil society
>>>>>>>>>> organization in the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> sphere of IG but the challenge of the individual wearing
>>>>>>>>>> many hat remains.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:41 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> With apologies for cross-posting, I see a limited
>>>>>>>>>> response, only
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> about 8 respondents.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Is there a corresponding message on the IGC list?
>>>>>>>>>> Possibly the poll
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> announcement hasn't reached those who are subscribed
>>>>>>>>>> only to the IGC list.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> (or because the title of the message says "future of
>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits" rather than
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> say "future of IG Civil Society".
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:41 PM Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It's been really great to see the level of engagement
>>>>>>>>>> in these
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> conversations about strengthening civil society
>>>>>>>>>> coordination, and I know
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> there's a lot of interest in not losing motivation. The
>>>>>>>>>> conversations have
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> been premised on a general interest in changing the
>>>>>>>>>> current situation
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (namely Bestbits being inactive as a coordination
>>>>>>>>>> network), and
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> collectively finding ways to strengthen global civil
>>>>>>>>>> society coordination
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> on the issues we work on.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hopefully the conversations so far, and the survey
>>>>>>>>>> which gathered a
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> broader array of views, have been helpful. I attached a
>>>>>>>>>> summary report of
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> the survey in my last email. At the last IGF in Paris
>>>>>>>>>> there was discussion
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> of holding a meeting at RightsCon this year. Before we
>>>>>>>>>> do that however, it
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> would be good to discuss the responses to the survey
>>>>>>>>>> and agree a way
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm including a doodle below, with a suggested agenda.
>>>>>>>>>> It would be
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> great if you could fill it out by 29 March so I can
>>>>>>>>>> confirm the date and
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> set up a room.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/vyfn2zdxzt8wqzis
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Suggested agenda*
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Looking forward to building on your energy and
>>>>>>>>>> contributions so far!
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you very much to those who completed the survey.
>>>>>>>>>> I have
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> attached the anonymised results as a text document,
>>>>>>>>>> with a summary included
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> at the top in case useful.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> As a next step I would suggest a split call, with the
>>>>>>>>>> first half
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> spent discussing the results and suggesting a way
>>>>>>>>>> forward (45 minutes-1
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> hour) and the second half, if deemed necessary, with
>>>>>>>>>> IGC founders and other
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> key members of IGC. We could arrange that as a
>>>>>>>>>> separate call too.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The aim of the calls so far and the survey have been
>>>>>>>>>> to find a way
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> to promote *more* civil society coordination, and thus
>>>>>>>>>> to change
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the current state of affairs. I hope that they help in
>>>>>>>>>> finding a way
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> forward which does this and in so doing, responds to
>>>>>>>>>> the widest possible
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> range of opinion. Should you have any other
>>>>>>>>>> suggestions on how to proceed,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> please do chime in! Otherwise, I'll send around a
>>>>>>>>>> doodle for a follow up
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> call.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:02, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> We've received a useful number of responses but it
>>>>>>>>>> would be great
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> to hear from more people about the future of
>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits. If you could fill
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> out the survey by COB this Friday that would be much
>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'll then likely send out a doodle for another call
>>>>>>>>>> to decide next
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> steps next week.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 11:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We've got some great responses to the survey so
>>>>>>>>>> thank you to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> those who have responded already.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The survey is still open so please do lend your
>>>>>>>>>> views if you can,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> by using the link below. The survey responses will
>>>>>>>>>> feed into the next set
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> of discussions on the future of Bestbits.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 09:37, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Following a call and discussion on this thread,
>>>>>>>>>> please see a
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> survey below to gather your views on the future of
>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits. Following a
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> call on February 11 with members of Bestbits, as
>>>>>>>>>> well as members of IGC, it
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> was agreed that a survey would be circulated to
>>>>>>>>>> gather views of all members.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The survey is preceded by a background information
>>>>>>>>>> note which
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of the discussions so far, and
>>>>>>>>>> links to the summaries of
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> calls.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319&lang=en
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> As a member of the Bestbits mailing list, you are
>>>>>>>>>> invited to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey. To inform future discussions
>>>>>>>>>> in a timely way, please
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey *by 08 March*. Should you have
>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> questions at all, don't hesitate to get in touch.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing your views!
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 20:08, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to those who participated in the call
>>>>>>>>>> yesterday. For
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> those who couldn't attend the call, you'll find
>>>>>>>>>> the list of participants
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and notes here:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We had a rich discussion about the possible ways
>>>>>>>>>> forward for
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits, building on the previous conversation in
>>>>>>>>>> December and the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread since.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, there was general agreement that both
>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits and
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> IGC have been facing challenges in fulfilling
>>>>>>>>>> their objectives,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> particularly when it comes to coordination and we
>>>>>>>>>> agreed to circulate a
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> survey to both lists to gather perspectives on
>>>>>>>>>> four suggested ways forward
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> which were discussed on the call. It was suggested
>>>>>>>>>> that this survey with
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the broader communities feed into a decision on
>>>>>>>>>> the future of the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> platforms. The survey will be circulated shortly
>>>>>>>>>> to both lists shortly,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and your participation would be greatly
>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:47, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a gentle reminder that the call on
>>>>>>>>>> next steps is
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this coming Monday, 11 February from* 4- 6 PM
>>>>>>>>>> UTC*. The full
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> details are included in my previous email and
>>>>>>>>>> I've updated the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etherpad <
>>>>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with those planning to attend.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 10:07, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for filling out the doodle! It seems
>>>>>>>>>> the best time
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the call is* 4-6 PM UTC on February 11*. The
>>>>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> details of the call, including how to join, are
>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Farzaneh for setting up the room.
>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to speaking to as many of you as possible on the
>>>>>>>>>> 11th!
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bestbits call: Future pathways *
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date and time: *
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 February, 4:00-6:00 PM UTC <
>>>>>>>>>> http://worldtimebuddy.com/>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Online Meeting room: *
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join the Meeting:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bluejeans.com/819760256
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via Room System:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Video Conferencing System: bjn.vc
>>>>>>>>>> -or-199.48.152.152
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting ID : 819760256
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via phone :
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1)  Dial:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.888.240.2560 (US Toll Free)
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see all numbers - http://bluejeans.com/numbers)
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2)  Enter Conference ID : 819760256
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that if you call in, your phone
>>>>>>>>>> number will
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear on the Bluejeans room page. We would like
>>>>>>>>>> to record and share the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link with the BestBits network on the mailing
>>>>>>>>>> list. Please let us know if
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do not want the recording to be shared on an
>>>>>>>>>> open mailing list if you
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call in.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Proposed agenda: *
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aim: *to discuss the future of the Bestbits and
>>>>>>>>>> IGC lists,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including the possibility of a merger + other
>>>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and
>>>>>>>>>> issues faced in
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each network
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>>>>>>>>> lists/establishment
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo - using lists
>>>>>>>>>> as information sharing
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process
>>>>>>>>>> for decision
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making regarding future of the lists
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *RSVP on etherpad*
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've put the agenda in this pad
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>and
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've also added the names of those who indicated
>>>>>>>>>> they were available for
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the call at this time. Of course, as a Bestbits
>>>>>>>>>> member you can join the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call without indicating that in the pad, this is
>>>>>>>>>> just to have a vague idea
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of numbers.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:13, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been great to see the engagement on this
>>>>>>>>>> topic, and
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to those who have shared their
>>>>>>>>>> perspectives and the relevant
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents too.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In December when we had the call we agreed to
>>>>>>>>>> touch base
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again in the middle of January to agree a way
>>>>>>>>>> forward. The discussions here
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide rich ground for the discussion, and
>>>>>>>>>> Farzaneh has kindly offered to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up a conference call space for us.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am circulating below a doodle for our second
>>>>>>>>>> call to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide next steps. This is a suggested agenda:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and
>>>>>>>>>> issues faced
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in each network
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>>>>>>>>> lists/establishment
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo, e.g using
>>>>>>>>>> lists as information sharing
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each approach
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on
>>>>>>>>>> process for
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision making regarding future of Bestbits
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having spoken to those who arranged the last
>>>>>>>>>> call, we
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest only Bestbits members are invited but
>>>>>>>>>> that we also reach out to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some IGC folks to help provide some background
>>>>>>>>>> and inform the discussion
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/yzmbvibwp6n4s976
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everyone could fill out the doodle by the
>>>>>>>>>> end of next
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week (Friday, 25 Jan) we can set a time and
>>>>>>>>>> send the conference room link
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:10, Deirdre Williams <
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the cross-posting.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been following this discussion with care,
>>>>>>>>>> and have a
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of questions which seem to fall in line
>>>>>>>>>> with what Nnenna and Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are saying.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If we had more or less stopped sharing
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information/discussing things/ working
>>>>>>>>>> together within IGC and Bestbits
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately, would merging the two groups again
>>>>>>>>>> really improve participation?
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is there a way for us to look at what needs
>>>>>>>>>> to be done,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we want to do, how we want to do it?
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Who are "we"? Are we the same as the people
>>>>>>>>>> who started
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGC and Bestbits - same objectives, same
>>>>>>>>>> perceptions and perspectives, same
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priorities?
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without answers to these questions it seems
>>>>>>>>>> unlikely that
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would make much progress.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purely as an illustration please consider IRPC
>>>>>>>>>> (which many
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us also belong to) which is currently
>>>>>>>>>> having some difficulty with
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifying volunteers to carry out management
>>>>>>>>>> tasks for the group.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil society still needs a means to discuss
>>>>>>>>>> issues and
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a common voice, but is this the right way
>>>>>>>>>> to do that now or do we need
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to devise something different?
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes for 2019
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deirdre
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 14:09, Jeremy Malcolm <
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at malcolm.id.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/19 2:01 AM, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who were part of the first
>>>>>>>>>> Steering Committee
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bestbits -
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could you share more information about how
>>>>>>>>>> it was
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituted and why?
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was because IGC discourse had become toxic
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysfunctional, and
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were dropping out. It had been a while
>>>>>>>>>> since it had
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree on a joint statement. At the same time,
>>>>>>>>>> the 2012 ITU
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WCIT was
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up, and being able to collaborate on
>>>>>>>>>> joint action
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was important,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a few conversations between people both
>>>>>>>>>> inside and
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of IGC
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in them becoming the first volunteer
>>>>>>>>>> steering
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then the same civil society politics that
>>>>>>>>>> had driven
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the IGC into
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ground started to disrupt Best Bits too.
>>>>>>>>>> There were
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (misplaced but
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaging) allegations about various
>>>>>>>>>> participants having
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden agendas
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not being transparent enough about their
>>>>>>>>>> own funding.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So whereas the
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original committee had been fairly
>>>>>>>>>> lightweight and
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informal, pressure to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt more formal mechanisms of
>>>>>>>>>> accountability resulted in
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us investing
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of time in creating a more elaborate
>>>>>>>>>> set of rules
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and processes.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, this was too heavy and
>>>>>>>>>> people weren't
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in these new processes, indicating
>>>>>>>>>> that the more
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure had probably been better.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there was a group of willing people who
>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resuscitate Best Bits,
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even without formal elections, I'd be all for
>>>>>>>>>> that. But I
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is. I personally have given as much
>>>>>>>>>> time to it as
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give, because I'm focusing my energy on my
>>>>>>>>>> new nonprofit
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prostasia
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation now.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet lawyer, ICT policy advocate, geek
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo "9EEAi^^;6C6]>J^=^>6"|tr '\!-~'
>>>>>>>>>> 'P-~\!-O'|wget -q -i
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -O -
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on
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>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel
>>>>>>>>>> Prize Economics, 1979
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1
>>>>>>>>>> 5JL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint:
>>>>>>>>>> F5D5 114D 173B
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint:
>>>>>>>>>> F5D5 114D 173B
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
>>>>>>>>>> 114D 173B
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>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
>>>>>>>>>> 114D 173B
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>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
>>>>>>>>>> 114D 173B
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
>>>>>>>>>> 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
>>>>>>>>>> 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>>>>>>>> 173B E9E2
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>>>>>>>> 173B E9E2
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> about.me/petertaiwoakinremi
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> --
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> <
>>>>>>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
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>>>>>>>>>> > >>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> about.me/petertaiwoakinremi
>>>>>>>>>> > >>> <
>>>>>>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > --
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>> > > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>> > > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>> > > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>> > > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603
>>>>>>>>>> > > DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>> > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>> > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>> > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>> > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F
>>>>>>>>>> > E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > ____________________________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>>>>> >      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
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>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
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>> --
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>>
>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>
>>
>
> --
>
>
> *Sheetal Kumar*
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>
>

-- 


*Sheetal Kumar*
Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 DD7F
E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
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