[governance] Proposed statement on .ORG sale

Mon Dec 9 01:59:57 EST 2019

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Please find hereunder some record describing that VeriSign has to pay "$5 million" 
 to establish an endowment to be used to fund future operating costs of the non-profit entity designated by ICANN as successor operator of the .org registry.

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IX. THE VERISIGN ENDOWMENT 
C40. The current .org registry agreement between ICANN and VeriSign, Inc., states:

5.1.4 No later than 90 days prior to the Expiration Date, [VeriSign] will pay to ICANN or ICANN's designee the sum of US $5 million, to be used by ICANN in it sole discretion to establish an endowment to be used to fund future operating costs of the non-profit entity designated by ICANN as successor operator of the .org registry. [VeriSign] agrees that such funds, once paid to ICANN, will become the property of ICANN and/or ICANN's designee, and that [VeriSign] will have no ownership or other rights or interests in such funds or in the manner in which they are used or disbursed. 

C41. Do you propose to seek to qualify to receive any funds from this endowment? 

C41.1. If so, describe in detail how you propose to use this endowment. Include the commitments you propose to make about the uses to which the endowment would be put. Explain why those uses are consistent with the smooth, stable transition and operation of the .org TLD for the benefit of current and future .org registrants.

C41.2. If you propose to seek to qualify to receive the endowment funds, explain why you believe that your proposed use is consistent with the terms of the endowment.

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Regards
Imran Ahmed Shah

    On Monday, 9 December 2019, 11:49:45 GMT+5, Imran Ahmed Shah <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:  

  Hi Parminder,There were 11 bidders. ICANN evaluated 11 proposals when VeriSign was leaving in 2002.At that time, the bidding criteria was different, the bidders were quoting their quality of services, as there was objections on VeriSign Support. Secondly, bidders were offering the cost of their fee for services per domain (registration and/or renewal). ISOC was not the lowest bidder.

No, ISOC/PIR did not have to pay anything. In compensation from ICANN, VeriSign given seed money (Endowment) to ISOC/PIR for capacity building and Registry handling and support  2.6 million domain names. 

Regards
Imran Ahmed Shah

    On Monday, 9 December 2019, 09:44:57 GMT+5, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:  

From those who know I request response to this question:

Was ISOC given the .org registry as a result of an auction (apart from other evaluation criteria) or not, meaning did ISOC pay anything, and if so how much?

Thanks

parminder 

 On 09/12/19 3:27 AM, Ayden Férdeline wrote:

Indeed John, this criteria is interesting, particularly number 6, which I have pasted below. I do not believe Ethos Capital has a "level of support for the proposal from .ORG registrants," but the Internet Society did, and that is why .ORG was assigned to them over other bidders.

6. Level of support for the proposal from .org registrants.

Demonstrated support among registrants in the .org TLD, particularly those actually using .org domain names for noncommercial purposes, will be a factor in evaluation of the proposals. Noncommercial registrants do not have uniform views about policy and management, and no single organization can fully encompass the diversity of global civil society. There will likely be significant difficulties in ascertaining the level of support for particular .org proposals from throughout the .org registrants and noncommercial community. Nevertheless, proposals to operate the .org TLD should provide available evidence of support from across the global Internet community.

  Best wishes,

    Ayden Férdeline 

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   On Sunday, December 8, 2019 10:49 PM, Sylvain Baya <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:

   Hi all,

   Le dim. 8 déc. 2019 9:19 PM, John Levine <icggov at johnlevine.com> a écrit :

 In article <CAJjTEvFXJ+ZLsdLwYF2vMkChKizoZ9RKN7p+O_Bj52yiAn858g at mail.gmail.com> you write:

   ><hxxps://www.icann.org/news/icann-pr-2001-03-01-en>

   It might be more useful to refer to the criteria used to evaluate
   the .org proposals and decide who got the registry:

  Dear John,
  ...have you used it yourselves ?

https://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/org/criteria.htm

  ...for sure, these criteria are interesting ; but let me know if there is a specific criterion which contains, explicitely, the key words : *By and For* ?

  Thanks.

  Shalom,
  --sb.

 R's,
   John

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