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<6c3de63b-5099-2dcd-fe9d-ae6c02f30bd6@wzb.eu> Message-ID: In message <6c3de63b-5099-2dcd-fe9d-ae6c02f30bd6 at wzb.eu>, at 19:38:58 on Tue, 2 Jan 2018, Jeanette Hofmann writes >I am still flabbergasted Join the club! Have lessons been learned, or is this kind of nonsense going to keep happening? -- Roland Perry From joly at punkcast.com Tue Jan 2 16:25:33 2018 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 16:25:33 -0500 Subject: [governance] Internet Society A11ySIG IGF Review 2pm ET 19:00 UTC Weds Jan 3 2018 Message-ID: Note new time! All are welcome to join. Remember to mute your mic when not speaking [image: a11ysig] For our first meetin g of 2018 the *Internet Society Accessibility Special Interest Group * (in formation) will be convened at *2pm EST* (1900 UTC) on *Wednesday January 3 2018.* We will be reviewing the recent Internet Governance Forum in Geneva and in particular the accessibility sessions. Participants will include *Gunela Astbrink* (Australia), *Judith Hellerstein* (USA ), *Vashkar Bhattacharjee* (Bangladesh), and *Muhammad Shabbir Awan* (Pakistan). Closed captioning will be available, *What: Internet Society Accessibility Special Interest Group (A11ySIG) IGF ReviewWhen: Wednesday Jan 3 20187 - 2pm-3pm EST | 19:00-20:00 UTCJoin from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/665487975 iPhone one-tap (US Toll): +14086380968 <(408)%20638-0968>,623946888# or +16465588656 <(646)%20558-8656>,623946888#Telephone: +1 408 638 0968 <(408)%20638-0968> (US Toll) or +1 646 558 8656 <(646)%20558-8656> (US Toll) - Meeting ID: 665-487-975International numbers available: https://zoom.us/zoomconference?m=GbFzjTFwFH1PFm1Ly8Nem33t7jnICnUn * Comment See all comments *Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/9762 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmalcolm at eff.org Tue Jan 2 17:35:04 2018 From: jmalcolm at eff.org (Jeremy Malcolm) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 15:35:04 -0700 Subject: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS In-Reply-To: References:

<6c3de63b-5099-2dcd-fe9d-ae6c02f30bd6@wzb.eu> Message-ID: On 2/1/18 11:47 am, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote: > So no one has the login for the Digital Ocean server? > > Can't a letter to the company explaining the situation help recover it > and give it to someone? > > Sounds easier than building a new archive from scratch from people's emails No that's not the issue. We have access to the server, but the archives were deleted from the server at some time within the last few months, by one of the volunteers who was trying to get the mailing list working again. As to why he didn't tell anyone, he may not have realized what he had done. -- Jeremy Malcolm Senior Global Policy Analyst Electronic Frontier Foundation https://eff.org jmalcolm at eff.org Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt PGP fingerprint: 75D2 4C0D 35EA EA2F 8CA8 8F79 4911 EC4A EDDF 1122 From udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng Tue Jan 2 20:59:10 2018 From: udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng (Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 02:59:10 +0100 Subject: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS In-Reply-To: References:

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Message-ID: So it's by error. I think it's understood that the archive is really lost. So, let's approve the reconstruction proposal, so that Tapani et al. can get to work. The sooner the better. On Jan 3, 2018 12:05 AM, "Jeremy Malcolm" wrote: On 2/1/18 11:47 am, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote: > So no one has the login for the Digital Ocean server? > > Can't a letter to the company explaining the situation help recover it > and give it to someone? > > Sounds easier than building a new archive from scratch from people's emails No that's not the issue. We have access to the server, but the archives were deleted from the server at some time within the last few months, by one of the volunteers who was trying to get the mailing list working again. As to why he didn't tell anyone, he may not have realized what he had done. -- Jeremy Malcolm Senior Global Policy Analyst Electronic Frontier Foundation https://eff.org jmalcolm at eff.org Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt PGP fingerprint: 75D2 4C0D 35EA EA2F 8CA8 8F79 4911 EC4A EDDF 1122 --- To unsubscribe: List help: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tapani.tarvainen at effi.org Wed Jan 3 04:52:09 2018 From: tapani.tarvainen at effi.org (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:52:09 +0200 Subject: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS In-Reply-To: References:

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Message-ID: <20180103095209.ut5cxrzzkxaa3xqs@tarvainen.info> On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 02:59:10AM +0100, Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku (udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng) wrote: > So, let's approve the reconstruction proposal, so that Tapani et al. can > get to work. The sooner the better. If I get all messages in, eh, "raw" format, it won't take long to rebuild the archive (I'd just create a temporary mailing list on my own machine and use Mailman command-line tools, easy enough). If some of the messages are in less convenient format it may be harder and/or result may not be perfect (threading in particular is likely to be lost). My own archive reaches to July 2005, and Jeanette has them from December 2003, which must be pretty close to the very beginning. But, what should we do with the archive once reconstructed? In principle it might be possible to merge it with this (current) list archive, but in practice probably not (I'm not familiar with the list software Riseup uses, but messing with the archive probably requires server privileges normal list admins don't have). If someone knows Riseup better and can tell if there'd be an easy way to move the old (reconstructed) archive there, do tell. Otherwise it'd need another place. I could put it on my own server for now, or I could probably have it hosted by Effi (there it'd survive even if I'm run over by a bus) at no cost (resource requirements are trivial). Other suggestions would be welcome as well. If hosting it on my or Effi's server I'd want to get a new domain for it, too, just to keep it distinct and easily movable. That would cost something but little enough not to worry me. We'd have to agree on the domain name though. There's also an ethical question: should the archive be then made world-readable? The original one was not, it was restricted to subscribers only (which is of course why we need to reconstruct it now from sundry sources rather than just archive.org). Technically it would be possible to set it up so that it'd still be readable by subscribers only, but managing the subscriber list would be cumbersome (linking it to the new list would probably be impossible, it'd have to be maintained separately), so I'd rather avoid that. Given the nature of the list I don't think there's anything that's in any way sensitive at this point of time (even if some may have been at the time), but I would like to see something of a consensus on this point before proceeding. The new list archive seems to be public, btw, even if its location isn't entirely obvious (https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/governance) and the spammer protection mechanism there probably prevents it from being archived by archive.org. -- Tapani Tarvainen From remmyn at gmail.com Wed Jan 3 05:11:22 2018 From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:11:22 +0100 Subject: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS In-Reply-To: References:

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Message-ID: Happy New Year As we journey in this reconstruction of archive, may be is high time we consider duplicating the archive automatically incase if future errors. Just thinking. Remmy On 3 Jan 2018 02:59, "Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku" < udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng> wrote: > So it's by error. I think it's understood that the archive is really > lost. > > So, let's approve the reconstruction proposal, so that Tapani et al. can > get to work. The sooner the better. > > On Jan 3, 2018 12:05 AM, "Jeremy Malcolm" wrote: > > On 2/1/18 11:47 am, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote: > > So no one has the login for the Digital Ocean server? > > > > Can't a letter to the company explaining the situation help recover it > > and give it to someone? > > > > Sounds easier than building a new archive from scratch from people's > emails > > No that's not the issue. We have access to the server, but the archives > were deleted from the server at some time within the last few months, by > one of the volunteers who was trying to get the mailing list working again. > > As to why he didn't tell anyone, he may not have realized what he had done. > > -- > Jeremy Malcolm > Senior Global Policy Analyst > Electronic Frontier Foundation > https://eff.org > jmalcolm at eff.org > > Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 > > :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: > > Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt > PGP fingerprint: 75D2 4C0D 35EA EA2F 8CA8 8F79 4911 EC4A EDDF 1122 > > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > > > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Wed Jan 3 08:33:05 2018 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 15:33:05 +0200 Subject: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS In-Reply-To: <20180103095209.ut5cxrzzkxaa3xqs@tarvainen.info> References:

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<20180103095209.ut5cxrzzkxaa3xqs@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Thanks Tapani, I would love to hear more wisdom here with regards to the number of ways we can deal with this situation. Any other thoughts? ----------------- Arsène Tungali, about.me/ArseneTungali +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > On Jan 3, 2018, at 11:52 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 02:59:10AM +0100, Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku (udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng) wrote: >> >> So, let's approve the reconstruction proposal, so that Tapani et al. can >> get to work. The sooner the better. > > If I get all messages in, eh, "raw" format, it won't take long to rebuild > the archive (I'd just create a temporary mailing list on my own machine > and use Mailman command-line tools, easy enough). If some of the messages > are in less convenient format it may be harder and/or result may not be > perfect (threading in particular is likely to be lost). > > My own archive reaches to July 2005, and Jeanette has them from > December 2003, which must be pretty close to the very beginning. > > But, what should we do with the archive once reconstructed? > > In principle it might be possible to merge it with this (current) list > archive, but in practice probably not (I'm not familiar with the list > software Riseup uses, but messing with the archive probably requires > server privileges normal list admins don't have). If someone knows > Riseup better and can tell if there'd be an easy way to move the old > (reconstructed) archive there, do tell. > > Otherwise it'd need another place. I could put it on my own server for > now, or I could probably have it hosted by Effi (there it'd survive > even if I'm run over by a bus) at no cost (resource requirements are > trivial). Other suggestions would be welcome as well. > > If hosting it on my or Effi's server I'd want to get a new domain > for it, too, just to keep it distinct and easily movable. That > would cost something but little enough not to worry me. We'd have > to agree on the domain name though. > > There's also an ethical question: should the archive be then made > world-readable? The original one was not, it was restricted to > subscribers only (which is of course why we need to reconstruct > it now from sundry sources rather than just archive.org). > > Technically it would be possible to set it up so that it'd still be > readable by subscribers only, but managing the subscriber list would > be cumbersome (linking it to the new list would probably be impossible, > it'd have to be maintained separately), so I'd rather avoid that. > > Given the nature of the list I don't think there's anything that's in > any way sensitive at this point of time (even if some may have been at > the time), but I would like to see something of a consensus on this > point before proceeding. > > The new list archive seems to be public, btw, even if its location > isn't entirely obvious (https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/governance) > and the spammer protection mechanism there probably prevents it from > being archived by archive.org. > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Wed Jan 3 11:32:02 2018 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 16:32:02 +0000 Subject: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS In-Reply-To: References:

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Message-ID: Hi. > high time we consider duplicating the archive automatically incase if future errors. I was doing some work about archiving and have since learnt that there are companies offering “dark archives” service. These are archives of archives. Here we are talking about serious archives—in the case, the National Archives of Singapore. Publishers apparently use the service too. The dark archive companies ensure that the files are not corrupted and always machine readable. Ours will be small in scale but I can find out more information if the executive committee wishes. Regards, Peng Hwa ANG From: on behalf of Remmy Nweke Reply-To: Remmy Nweke Date: Wednesday, 3 January 2018 at 5:11 AM To: Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku Cc: Jeremy Malcolm , Renata Aquino Ribeiro , "governance at lists.riseup.net" Subject: Re: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS Happy New Year As we journey in this reconstruction of archive, may be is high time we consider duplicating the archive automatically incase if future errors. Just thinking. Remmy On 3 Jan 2018 02:59, "Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku" > wrote: So it's by error. I think it's understood that the archive is really lost. So, let's approve the reconstruction proposal, so that Tapani et al. can get to work. The sooner the better. On Jan 3, 2018 12:05 AM, "Jeremy Malcolm" > wrote: On 2/1/18 11:47 am, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote: > So no one has the login for the Digital Ocean server? > > Can't a letter to the company explaining the situation help recover it > and give it to someone? > > Sounds easier than building a new archive from scratch from people's emails No that's not the issue. We have access to the server, but the archives were deleted from the server at some time within the last few months, by one of the volunteers who was trying to get the mailing list working again. As to why he didn't tell anyone, he may not have realized what he had done. -- Jeremy Malcolm Senior Global Policy Analyst Electronic Frontier Foundation https://eff.org jmalcolm at eff.org Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt PGP fingerprint: 75D2 4C0D 35EA EA2F 8CA8 8F79 4911 EC4A EDDF 1122 --- To unsubscribe: > List help: --- To unsubscribe: > List help: ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is intended solely for the person(s) named and may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it, notify us and do not copy, use, or disclose its contents. Towards a sustainable earth: Print only when necessary. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From raquino at gmail.com Wed Jan 3 18:47:58 2018 From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 20:47:58 -0300 Subject: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS In-Reply-To: <20180103095209.ut5cxrzzkxaa3xqs@tarvainen.info> References:

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<20180103095209.ut5cxrzzkxaa3xqs@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Hi I do not oppose keeping the past archives open. I'd also think the steps outlined seem quite reasonable. On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 6:52 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 02:59:10AM +0100, Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku (udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng) wrote: > >> So, let's approve the reconstruction proposal, so that Tapani et al. can >> get to work. The sooner the better. > > If I get all messages in, eh, "raw" format, it won't take long to rebuild > the archive (I'd just create a temporary mailing list on my own machine > and use Mailman command-line tools, easy enough). If some of the messages > are in less convenient format it may be harder and/or result may not be > perfect (threading in particular is likely to be lost). > > My own archive reaches to July 2005, and Jeanette has them from > December 2003, which must be pretty close to the very beginning. > > But, what should we do with the archive once reconstructed? > > In principle it might be possible to merge it with this (current) list > archive, but in practice probably not (I'm not familiar with the list > software Riseup uses, but messing with the archive probably requires > server privileges normal list admins don't have). If someone knows > Riseup better and can tell if there'd be an easy way to move the old > (reconstructed) archive there, do tell. > > Otherwise it'd need another place. I could put it on my own server for > now, or I could probably have it hosted by Effi (there it'd survive > even if I'm run over by a bus) at no cost (resource requirements are > trivial). Other suggestions would be welcome as well. > > If hosting it on my or Effi's server I'd want to get a new domain > for it, too, just to keep it distinct and easily movable. That > would cost something but little enough not to worry me. We'd have > to agree on the domain name though. > > There's also an ethical question: should the archive be then made > world-readable? The original one was not, it was restricted to > subscribers only (which is of course why we need to reconstruct > it now from sundry sources rather than just archive.org). > > Technically it would be possible to set it up so that it'd still be > readable by subscribers only, but managing the subscriber list would > be cumbersome (linking it to the new list would probably be impossible, > it'd have to be maintained separately), so I'd rather avoid that. > > Given the nature of the list I don't think there's anything that's in > any way sensitive at this point of time (even if some may have been at > the time), but I would like to see something of a consensus on this > point before proceeding. > > The new list archive seems to be public, btw, even if its location > isn't entirely obvious (https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/governance) > and the spammer protection mechanism there probably prevents it from > being archived by archive.org. > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > From tapani.tarvainen at effi.org Mon Jan 1 03:49:14 2018 From: tapani.tarvainen at effi.org (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 10:49:14 +0200 Subject: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <20180101084911.ag4bhtaspbnorrst@tarvainen.info> I have reconstructed Mailman archives out of messages collected from sundry sources. It is doable, sometimes even easy, sometimes harder, depending on various factors like whether you can get the messages "raw" (including all headers) or if they're only in some webmail-only things without even any download option other than cut'n'paste or saving as html. If people feel reconstructing the old list archives would be worthwhile, I might give it a go. If you want to help in that and have a larg(ish) part of the archive, drop me a line describing what you have, or actually preferably just the headers of the *earliest* list message you have. In any case, Happy new year 2018 to all! Tapani On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 07:24:48PM -0400, Deirdre Williams (williams.deirdre at gmail.com) wrote: > > Good idea Devon - would it work? > I also have a fairly large archive in my email going back to 2008 at least. > Perhaps among us we can reconstitute a lot of what seems to be lost? > Happy New Year - it gets here in about 5 hours :-) > Deirdre > > On 31 December 2017 at 19:09, Devon Blake wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure I have all the communications for quite a few years, as I > > haven't deleted anything. > > Devon > > > > On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: > > > >> On 29/12/17 6:39 am, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote: > >> > Thank you for this new list. > >> > What will happen to the old archives? > >> > >> Unfortunately, it seems that they are gone forever. When the IGC's last > >> hosting company went bankrupt and left us without access to the server > >> except via the web, I went and downloaded all of the mail archives and > >> transferred them to the new virtual server. But then when I regained > >> access to the new machine recently when I was trying to get the mailing > >> list working again, the archives had been deleted in the meantime. I > >> don't know how or by whom. But unless a backup was taken at our hosting > >> provider Digital Ocean (and I can't check this, because I don't have the > >> login), this means the archives are lost for good. > >> > >> -- > >> Jeremy Malcolm > >> Senior Global Policy Analyst > >> Electronic Frontier Foundation > >> https://eff.org > >> jmalcolm at eff.org > >> > >> Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 > >> > >> :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: > >> > >> Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt > >> PGP fingerprint: 75D2 4C0D 35EA EA2F 8CA8 8F79 4911 EC4A EDDF 1122 > >> > >> > >> > >> --- > >> To unsubscribe: > >> List help: > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Devon Blake > > ICT and Development Consultant > > 22c Sullivan Ave > > Kgn 8 > > ,Phone: Office 876-649-9704, Mobile, digi 876-483-2632 <(876)%20483-2632>, > > flow 876-519-6266 > > linkedin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/deblade > > website:www.myintellicenter.com > > > > To be kind, To be helpful, To network > > *Earthwise ... For Life!* > > > > --- > > To unsubscribe: > > List help: > > > > > > > -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 From devonrb at gmail.com Wed Jan 3 21:36:19 2018 From: devonrb at gmail.com (Devon Blake) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 21:36:19 -0500 Subject: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS In-Reply-To: References:

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Message-ID: I will review my mails and make it available asap On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 5:11 AM, Remmy Nweke wrote: > Happy New Year > > As we journey in this reconstruction of archive, may be is high time we > consider duplicating the archive automatically incase if future errors. > > Just thinking. > > Remmy > > On 3 Jan 2018 02:59, "Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku" < > udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng> wrote: > >> So it's by error. I think it's understood that the archive is really >> lost. >> >> So, let's approve the reconstruction proposal, so that Tapani et al. can >> get to work. The sooner the better. >> >> On Jan 3, 2018 12:05 AM, "Jeremy Malcolm" wrote: >> >> On 2/1/18 11:47 am, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote: >> > So no one has the login for the Digital Ocean server? >> > >> > Can't a letter to the company explaining the situation help recover it >> > and give it to someone? >> > >> > Sounds easier than building a new archive from scratch from people's >> emails >> >> No that's not the issue. We have access to the server, but the archives >> were deleted from the server at some time within the last few months, by >> one of the volunteers who was trying to get the mailing list working >> again. >> >> As to why he didn't tell anyone, he may not have realized what he had >> done. >> >> -- >> Jeremy Malcolm >> Senior Global Policy Analyst >> Electronic Frontier Foundation >> https://eff.org >> jmalcolm at eff.org >> >> Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 <(415)%20436-9333> >> >> :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: >> >> Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt >> PGP fingerprint: 75D2 4C0D 35EA EA2F 8CA8 8F79 4911 EC4A EDDF 1122 >> >> >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> >> >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe: >> List help: >> >> > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > > -- Devon Blake ICT and Development Consultant 22c Sullivan Ave Kgn 8 ,Phone: Office 876-649-9704, Mobile, digi 876-483-2632, flow 876-519-6266 linkedin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/deblade website:www.myintellicenter.com To be kind, To be helpful, To network *Earthwise ... For Life!* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From apisan at unam.mx Wed Jan 3 23:47:14 2018 From: apisan at unam.mx (Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 04:47:14 +0000 Subject: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS In-Reply-To: References:

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<20180103095209.ut5cxrzzkxaa3xqs@tarvainen.info>, Message-ID: <6DCAB3E586E6A34FB17223DF8D8F0D3D034CEF1146@MAILBOX03.unam.local> Hi, the decisions on keeping the archives open or not should give great weight to the people who were involved at the time. The fact that many will not be easy to contact strengthens the point. It is flabbergasting too how disparate this loss is with the elaborate structures and superstructures, processes, superprocesses and subprocesses given to elections; thousands of emails in that respect will be found when the archives are reconstituted, and none about operational responsibilities other than a few by people like Bill Drake who actually took care. Responsibilities of officials should be better spelled out for the future starting really soon. Starting with closed archives as default will make it more feasible for Tapani to perform the heroic task he has volunteered for; that decision can be reversed later, which does not hold for the opposite direction. The task is herculean; it would be unfriendly to have it bogged in an internal policy discussion in which the most affected parties are not guaranteed to be able to participate. Alejandro Pisanty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Facultad de Química UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ Desde: governance-request at lists.riseup.net [governance-request at lists.riseup.net] en nombre de Renata Aquino Ribeiro [raquino at gmail.com] Enviado el: miércoles, 03 de enero de 2018 17:47 Hasta: Tapani Tarvainen; governance at lists.riseup.net Asunto: Re: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS Hi I do not oppose keeping the past archives open. I'd also think the steps outlined seem quite reasonable. On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 6:52 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 02:59:10AM +0100, Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku (udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng) wrote: > >> So, let's approve the reconstruction proposal, so that Tapani et al. can >> get to work. The sooner the better. > > If I get all messages in, eh, "raw" format, it won't take long to rebuild > the archive (I'd just create a temporary mailing list on my own machine > and use Mailman command-line tools, easy enough). If some of the messages > are in less convenient format it may be harder and/or result may not be > perfect (threading in particular is likely to be lost). > > My own archive reaches to July 2005, and Jeanette has them from > December 2003, which must be pretty close to the very beginning. > > But, what should we do with the archive once reconstructed? > > In principle it might be possible to merge it with this (current) list > archive, but in practice probably not (I'm not familiar with the list > software Riseup uses, but messing with the archive probably requires > server privileges normal list admins don't have). If someone knows > Riseup better and can tell if there'd be an easy way to move the old > (reconstructed) archive there, do tell. > > Otherwise it'd need another place. I could put it on my own server for > now, or I could probably have it hosted by Effi (there it'd survive > even if I'm run over by a bus) at no cost (resource requirements are > trivial). Other suggestions would be welcome as well. > > If hosting it on my or Effi's server I'd want to get a new domain > for it, too, just to keep it distinct and easily movable. That > would cost something but little enough not to worry me. We'd have > to agree on the domain name though. > > There's also an ethical question: should the archive be then made > world-readable? The original one was not, it was restricted to > subscribers only (which is of course why we need to reconstruct > it now from sundry sources rather than just archive.org). > > Technically it would be possible to set it up so that it'd still be > readable by subscribers only, but managing the subscriber list would > be cumbersome (linking it to the new list would probably be impossible, > it'd have to be maintained separately), so I'd rather avoid that. > > Given the nature of the list I don't think there's anything that's in > any way sensitive at this point of time (even if some may have been at > the time), but I would like to see something of a consensus on this > point before proceeding. > > The new list archive seems to be public, btw, even if its location > isn't entirely obvious (https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/governance) > and the spammer protection mechanism there probably prevents it from > being archived by archive.org. > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > From seun.ojedeji at gmail.com Thu Jan 4 01:23:50 2018 From: seun.ojedeji at gmail.com (Seun Ojedeji) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 07:23:50 +0100 Subject: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS In-Reply-To: References:

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<20180103095209.ut5cxrzzkxaa3xqs@tarvainen.info> <6DCAB3E586E6A34FB17223DF8D8F0D3D034CEF1146@MAILBOX03.unam.local> Message-ID: Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos On Jan 4, 2018 5:48 AM, "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" wrote: Hi, Starting with closed archives as default will make it more feasible for Tapani to perform the heroic task he has volunteered for; that decision can be reversed later, which does not hold for the opposite direction. The task is herculean; it would be unfriendly to have it bogged in an internal policy discussion in which the most affected parties are not guaranteed to be able to participate. SO: +1 Well said Regards Alejandro Pisanty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Facultad de Química UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/ 22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ Desde: governance-request at lists.riseup.net [governance-request at lists. riseup.net] en nombre de Renata Aquino Ribeiro [raquino at gmail.com] Enviado el: miércoles, 03 de enero de 2018 17:47 Hasta: Tapani Tarvainen; governance at lists.riseup.net Asunto: Re: [governance] IGF MAG 2018: NO NEWS Hi I do not oppose keeping the past archives open. I'd also think the steps outlined seem quite reasonable. On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 6:52 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 02:59:10AM +0100, Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku ( udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng) wrote: > >> So, let's approve the reconstruction proposal, so that Tapani et al. can >> get to work. The sooner the better. > > If I get all messages in, eh, "raw" format, it won't take long to rebuild > the archive (I'd just create a temporary mailing list on my own machine > and use Mailman command-line tools, easy enough). If some of the messages > are in less convenient format it may be harder and/or result may not be > perfect (threading in particular is likely to be lost). > > My own archive reaches to July 2005, and Jeanette has them from > December 2003, which must be pretty close to the very beginning. > > But, what should we do with the archive once reconstructed? > > In principle it might be possible to merge it with this (current) list > archive, but in practice probably not (I'm not familiar with the list > software Riseup uses, but messing with the archive probably requires > server privileges normal list admins don't have). If someone knows > Riseup better and can tell if there'd be an easy way to move the old > (reconstructed) archive there, do tell. > > Otherwise it'd need another place. I could put it on my own server for > now, or I could probably have it hosted by Effi (there it'd survive > even if I'm run over by a bus) at no cost (resource requirements are > trivial). Other suggestions would be welcome as well. > > If hosting it on my or Effi's server I'd want to get a new domain > for it, too, just to keep it distinct and easily movable. That > would cost something but little enough not to worry me. We'd have > to agree on the domain name though. > > There's also an ethical question: should the archive be then made > world-readable? The original one was not, it was restricted to > subscribers only (which is of course why we need to reconstruct > it now from sundry sources rather than just archive.org). > > Technically it would be possible to set it up so that it'd still be > readable by subscribers only, but managing the subscriber list would > be cumbersome (linking it to the new list would probably be impossible, > it'd have to be maintained separately), so I'd rather avoid that. > > Given the nature of the list I don't think there's anything that's in > any way sensitive at this point of time (even if some may have been at > the time), but I would like to see something of a consensus on this > point before proceeding. > > The new list archive seems to be public, btw, even if its location > isn't entirely obvious (https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/governance) > and the spammer protection mechanism there probably prevents it from > being archived by archive.org. > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > > --- > To unsubscribe: > List help: > --- To unsubscribe: List help: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The Last Days of Reality - Mark Pesce - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/pesce 5. Internet Society Chapterthon 2017 - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/chapterthon2017 6. Kathy Brown - Mobile World Congress Shanghai 2017 - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/mwcs17 7. Internet Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony 2017 - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/ihof17 8. ISOC Community Networking Round Up 2016 - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/cn2016 9. Community Networks talks from NYCMesh & RadNetworks - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/cn2017 10. Olaf Kolkman - The Future of Trust - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/futureoftrust 11. Internet Society 2017 Global Internet Report Launch - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/future 12. Geneva Lecture Series: “Current Internet Governance Challenges: What’s Next?” - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/gls17 [image: livestream] On November 9 2017, as part of* Geneva Peace Week *, the *United Nations Office at Geneva * (UNOG) and the *United Nations Institute for Training and Research *(UNITAR), in partnership with the *Graduate Institute for International and Development Studies * and the *Geneva Internet Platform *, presented the tenth edition of the *Geneva Lecture Series * (GLS) on “*Current Internet Governance Challenges: What’s Next? *” at the Palais des Nations in Geneva. The lecture commenced with welcoming remarks from *Michael Møller*, Director-General, UN Geneva, and *Nikhil Set*h, Executive Director, UNITAR. *Brad Smith*, President and Chief Legal Officer of Microsoft, delivered keynote remarks in which he proposed a *Digital Geneva Convention * to forestall cyberwars by nation-states. He was then joined for a more general Internet governance discussion by *Kate Gilmore*, Deputy High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR),and *Phillip Spoerri*, Head of the Delegation of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) to the United Nations in New York. The session was moderated by *Doreen Bogdan-Martin*, Chief of Strategic Planning and Membership Department, International Telecommunication Union (ITU), with assistance from online moderator *Jovan Kurbalija*, Director, Geneva Internet Platform. The entire event will be webcast today *January 6 2018* at *7pm EST* on the *Internet Society Livestream Channel * (with open captions). *View on Livestream: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/gls17/ * Share this: Comment See all comments *Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/9779 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 <(218)%20565-9365> Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicocamarao at gmail.com Mon Jan 8 13:22:45 2018 From: nicocamarao at gmail.com (Nicolas Fiumarelli) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:22:45 -0300 Subject: [governance] 2 Books: Platform Regulations + Community Networks In-Reply-To: <20180104054823.2700328f4bbfc197480209526f2a1375.ba917ca5e0.wbe@email07.godaddy.com> References: <20180104054823.2700328f4bbfc197480209526f2a1375.ba917ca5e0.wbe@email07.godaddy.com> Message-ID: It seems very interesting Luca. Also, from the index they seem like very deep and complex analysis of access and community networks issues both from technical and lawful perspectives. Furthermore, I can see a lot of collaborations from different recognized actors widely. I think I'm going to add them to my next weekend's readings. Best regards, Nicolás Fiumarelli. 2018-01-04 9:48 GMT-03:00 : > Dear all, (apologies for cross posting) > > The volumes on Platform Regulations and on Community Networks, presented > at the IGF, are now freely available at the links below. > > *Platform Regulations: How Platforms Are Regulated and How They Regulate > Us http://tinyurl.com/PlatformRegulations > * > > *Community Networks: the Internet by the People, for the People** > http://tinyurl.com/CommunityNetworks > * > > Please, feel free to circulate this email to colleagues, students, etc > > I wish everyone a very happy new year > Best regards > > Luca > > [image: FGV Direito Rio] > *Luca Belli, PhD* > *Senior Researcher * > *Head of **Internet Governance @ FGV * > luca.belli at fgv.br > +55 21 3799 *5763* > *@1lucabelli * > [image: http://www.fgv.br/mailing/Direito_Rio/assinatura_email/Ondas.png] > > > Dear all (apologies for cross posting) > > I would like to draw your attention on two books, including contributions > from several members of this mailing list, that will be released next week > at the United Nations Internet Governance Forum (IGF). > > 1) *Platform Regulations: How Platforms are Regulated and How They > Regulate Us.*This book is the Official 2017 Outcome of the UN IGF Dynamic > Coalition on Platform Responsibility (DCPR), which is a multistakeholder > group fostering a cooperative analysis of online platforms’ responsibility > to respect human rights, while putting forward solutions to protect > platform-users’ rights. The book offers some responses to the diverse and > raising challenges generated by the *platformisation* of our economy and, > more generally, our society. The analyses featured in this book are drafted > by 18 authors (see table of content 1, at the end of this email) and the > volume includes prefaces by David Kaye, UN Special Rapporteur on the > promotion and protection of the right to freedom of opinion and expression, > and Julia Reda, Member of the European Parliament. The volume critically > explores the human rights dimension of the digital platform debate, > subsequently focusing on personal data protection and use, and finally > suggesting innovative solutions for the new roles played by online > platforms. It also includes the *Recommendations on Terms of Service and > Human Rights*, which were elaborated through a multistakeholder > participatory process, facilitated by the DCPR. The book’s flyer is > available here . > Free copies of the volume will be available*on the 19th at 9 o’clock > * and the ebook will be released in open access, > under Creative Commons License. > > 2) *Community Networks: the Internet by the People for the People*.This > volume explores the benefits of community networks, analysing case studies, > focusing on the challenges and opportunities for these networks and putting > forward concrete recommendations for their development.It features > analyses by 16 authors (see table of content 2, at the end of this email), > and prefaces by Kathy Brown, President and CEO of the Internet Society, and > Jan Dröge, Director of the EU Commission Broadband Competence Offices > Support Facility. The book is the official outcome of the IGF Dynamic > Coalition on Community Connectivity (DC3), a multistakeholder group, > fostering a cooperative analysis of the community network model, exploring > how such networks may be used to improve connectivity while empowering > Internet users. The volume also includes the updated version of the *Declaration > on Community Connectivity*, which was elaborated through a > multistakeholder participatory process, facilitated by the DC3. It will be > presented and debated with the authors, on the 19th at 17:20 > . Free hard copies will be > available, and the ebook will be released in open access, under Creative > Commons License. The book’s flyer is available here > . > > While expressing my sincerest gratitude to all those who contribute to > these books, I would like to invite you all to the books’ presentations, so > that you can have your hard copies of the publications. For those who will > not be able to be at the presentations, I will share the links to the > books, right after the IGF. > > Lastly, should you be in Geneva next week, you might be interested in > attending these sessions promoted by > the Center for Technology and Society at FGV, dealing with topics such as > intermediary liability > , > net neutrality , > submarine interconnections > , > CyberBRICS > , > platform economy > > and terrorism online > . > > Looking forward to seeing you at the IGF and, please, feel free to > circulate this email through your networks. > Best regards > Luca > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------------------------------- > *Luca Belli*, PhD > Senior Researcher, Center for Technology & Society, FGV Rio de Janeiro > Chercheur Associé, Centre de Droit Public Comparé, Université Paris 2 > Head of Internet Governance at FGV > internet-governance.fgv.br > @1lucabelli > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------------------------------- > > > *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE* > *This message, as well as any attached document, may contain information > that is confidential and privileged and is intended only for the use of the > **addressee** named above. 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This event, the first of a series, focuses on the policy aspects of digital preservation: Is there a role for regulators? Should there be global standards? Should those standards be patent-free? Keynote speaker will be *Vint Cerf*, Chief Internet Evangelist, Google. Respondents: *Michelle Wu*, Director of the Law Library, Georgetown Law; and *Kate Zwaard*, Chief of. National Digital Initiatives, Library of Congress. The event will be webcast live on the *Internet Society Livestream Channel * with open captioning. *What: Digital Preservation: Policy Challenges * *Where: Google, Washington DC* *When: Friday January 12 2018 – Noon-2pm* *About: https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2018/01/preserving-future-one-bit-time/ * *Register (in person or webcast): Eventbrite | Facebook * *Webcast: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/dppolicy * *Captioning: http://streamtext.net/player?event=CFI-ISOC * *Twitter: @isocny + #digitalpreservation * Comment See all comments *Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/9792 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Wed Jan 10 09:43:07 2018 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 16:43:07 +0200 Subject: [governance] Fwd: IGC Session Report - IGF 2017 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Happy new year! We had a session at the IGF 2017 whose theme was *"Cybersecurity: Balancing security, openness and privacy (WS 31)"* Please find attached the session report that i am sending to the IGF Seretariat as well. I would like to thank our members who were involved in the drafting and submission of this session, moreover, to those who were involved in Geneva. I was not able to be there physically but i was able to follow part of it as a remote participant. I hope you all enjoy reading this report and hope this can lead to more discussion on this list. 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Might be interested for you. Best Regards Imran Ahmed Shah ----- Forwarded Message ----- *From:* Anja GENGO *To:* "igfregionals at intgovforum.org" *Sent:* Friday, 19 January 2018, 17:06 *Subject:* [Igfregionals] Fw: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World” Dear Colleagues, Please see below an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing the IGF at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos. Best regards, Anja -----Forwarded by Anja GENGO/UNOG/GVA/UNO on 01/19/2018 01:00PM ----- To: IGF Maglist From: "Lynn St.Amour" Sent by: "Igfmaglist" Date: 01/18/2018 08:50PM Subject: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World” Dear colleagues, I am writing to you as I/the IGF have been invited to participate in the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos. This year the theme is: "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”. Note: There is a guide on how to follow/“participate” in Davos here: https://www.weforum.org/ agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/ And, there is an ongoing stream of content on digital issues, including an interesting interactive map available through the first panel here: https://www.weforum.org/ system-initiatives/shaping-the-future-of-digital-economy- and-society/articles In 2017, the IGF Secretariat, the CENB facilitators, some DCs, and I (as IGF MAG Chair) participated in various World Economic Forum (WEF) meetings/conference calls. Many were connected to Access and their “Internet For All” projects, but others were connected to IoT, and Networks as Platforms, to name only a few. WEF activities in relevant areas (where we were aware of them) were flagged to the NRIs, DCs, etc. In addition, for several years there has been a two-way collaboration between the WEF and the IGF major policy initiative (IGF Policy Options for Connecting and Enabling the Next Billion(s)). As mentioned during previous MAG meetings, I was also asked to Co-Chair the Stewardship Board for a WEF Initiative called “Digital Economy and Society” (DES). This Stewardship Board is convened annually during the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos. Per the WEF this initiative provides an opportunity to develop a shared vision for a sustainable, inclusive, and trustworthy digital future and priorities for collaborative action. In particular, the initiative seeks to align and accelerate progress around six shared global outcomes: 1. Access & Adoption: All people (without differences in geography, gender or income) can access and use the internet 2. Responsible Digital Transformation: Business, government and civil society leaders act responsibly and competently to usher in a sustainable digital transformation 3. Fit for purpose, informed governance: Global, regional, national policies are informed by evidence and well-equipped to deal with the transnational nature of digital connectivity 4. Secure & resilient people, processes & practices: All individuals, institutions and infrastructure are resilient to vulnerabilities created by increasing digital connectivity 5. Robust, interoperable digital Identities: All people can access and use integrated, inclusive, trusted digital identity regimes that enhance their social and economic well being 6. Benefits from data sharing while respecting privacy: Individuals and institutions can share data in ways that create social and economic value while respecting the privacy of fellow digital citizens James Smith, President & CEO, Thomson Reuters is the other Co-Chair, and together, we will be facilitating the Stewardship Board Meeting at Davos this year. To the extent that there are activities that are aligned and that you wish to highlight we would welcome hearing them. I am also moderating or speaking at various panels during Davos and will be reflecting IGF activities, value, values and principles. Some of the sessions: - Strategic Outlook: Digital Economy - BroadBand Commission - Internet For All session - Trustworthy Data: The Foundation of Innovation There are many common topics of interest and everyone is encouraged to share view points/submit questions, so please see the link below for social media info., etc. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow- davos-2018/ Note: I am sending this note to last years MAG (noting the 2018 MAG and MAG Chair are not yet formally constituted). I am also asking the secretariat to forward this note to the NRIs, DCs, CENB, etc. and to note this on the IGF website in order to get the broadest distribution possible. 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<2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A80207D04B@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: In light of the message from Bestbits that I just forwarded, and for the benefit of more recent subscribers to the Internet Governance Caucus, I think it is useful to remember how the IGC began, so I am forwarding a message sent earlier this month by Wolfgang to the more limited group of "friends of IGC" (for want of a better term) who were trying to retrieve the IGC space. Things change and evolve. For this to happen in a fair and balanced manner ALL of the voices need to be equally and actively involved. Deirdre ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" < wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Date: 3 January 2018 at 14:08 Subject: AW: [Ext] Re: IGC Co-coordinators To: Adam Peake , Mawaki Chango , Vittorio Bertola Cc: Arsène Tungali , Deirdre Williams < williams.deirdre at gmail.com>, Ian Peter , "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" , Jeanette Hofmann , Jeremy Malcolm , Akinremi Peter Taiwo , Bruna Martins dos Santos < bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>, Izumi AIZU , Jeanette Hofmann < jeanette at wzb.eu>, "Doria, Avri" , Anriette Esterhuysen < anriette at apc.org>, Ginger Paque , Analia Aspis < analia.aspis at gmail.com>, Norbert Bollow , Parminder < parminder at itforchange.net>, YJ Park Hi, the IGC was founded on February, 21, 2003, just after the end of workshop 3 (see attachment) . Some ot the partiicpants went to the Cafeteria in the ILO Building. At this time CS did not have a "strcuture" as a WSIS stakeholder group. Just two days before February 21, 2003, on Wednesday February 19th, there was another meeting in the ITU building where Alain and Louise Lassounde pushed for the formation of a CS WSIS bureau. Alain and Louise had the mandate from the inergovernmental WSIS bureau to organize CS participation in the WSIS process. For the formation of the CS breau they used a structure proposed by a working paper from an UN subcommittee which worked together with the Cardozo-Commission. In this paper there was a list with about a dozen groups which could be considered as "representatives of CS", which inlcuded trade unions, academic and philantropic institutions, local authorities, human rights groups and others. I became a member of the bureau on behalf of the "philantrpoic and academic institutions". At this moment, there was no CS plenary and no CS Content & Themes Group. Some working groups on media, education, human rights, gender existed. But there was nothing for IG. One of the main roles of the CS bureau was to organize sponsorship for CS participation in WSIS meetings. It was clear that the bureau, chaired by Renata Bloem from CONGO, had no role to play with rergard to substance. Substance was in the hands of the CS Plenary and CS C&T (with its WGs). Back to Friday, February 21st, 2003. I reported back from the first Bureau meeting and proposed to establish an own unit for IG (in the light of the discussion of the WS III). There was generally support. YJ introduced some additional ideas and we agreed to form not a CS IG working group but CS "IG Caucus". The inspiration for the name came from the US Congress which founded in 1996 a "Congressional Internet Caucus" ( http://www.netcaucus.org/about/ ) YJ and I (gender and geographical balance) were electd as co-chairs. Hans, Karen, Bill and others started immediately with drafting a first workplan and with the creation on an e-mail list (hosted by CPSR). With other words, Adams memory is correct. It needed less than four weeks to get started. The first real activities took place during the Paris Intersessional where we were well positioned and made statemens in Plenary sessions inter alia rejecting the idea of an intergovernmental Internet treaty but proposing a “Global Information Society Observation Council” which could serve as a meeting point for improved coordination, consultation and communication on ICT issues". This was the starting point for a discussion which - via the push of civil society members in the WGIG (Bill, Karen, Avri, Peng Hwa, Carlos etc.) in 2004 and 2005 finally ended in the creation of the IGF. With other words, the IGC is the real father of the IGF. In Geneva in December 2003, YJ and I handed to co-chairmanship over to Jeanette and Adam. best wishes Wolfgang The first email to governance at lists.cpsr.org I can find was sent on Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:17:09 -0800, from yjpark at myepark.com (thanks YJ :-)) Hans was the connection to CPSR which hosted the first list, on 3/19/03 he said he'd set up a list. Karen Banks sent an email on 3/29/03 saying we were just about to announce the creation of a new [IG] list. 31 March looks like the probable start. Hans may have records, and I think it still at the same email address. Hope this helps, Adam From: Mawaki Chango Date: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 16:57 To: Vittorio Bertola Cc: Adam Peake , Arsène Tungali < arsenebaguma at gmail.com>, Deirdre Williams , Ian Peter , "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>, Jeanette Hofmann < jeanette.hofmann at wzb.eu>, Jeremy Malcolm , Akinremi Peter Taiwo , Bruna Martins dos Santos < bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>, Izumi AIZU , Jeanette Hofmann < jeanette at wzb.eu>, "Doria, Avri" , Anriette Esterhuysen < anriette at apc.org>, Ginger Paque , Analia Aspis < analia.aspis at gmail.com>, Norbert Bollow , Parminder < parminder at itforchange.net>, "wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de" , YJ Park < yjpark21 at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Ext] Re: IGC Co-coordinators On Jan 3, 2018 14:37, "Vittorio Bertola" > wrote: Il 2018-01-03 14:42 Adam Peake ha scritto: Hi Arsene, Thanks for the email. Could you confirm if the mail archive has been lost or not? The archive is an important record of discussions about Internet governance, WSIS (WGIG and all that). Please let us know if the archive has been saved. I don't remember you reaching out, just a few emails to the list in March/April last year about migrating the list. I don't remember anything either, but in any case: if the server-side email archive has been lost, it could still be possible to rebuild it from people's archives. I, for example, keep in my mailbox all the email I received since September 2003, so I could quite easily share the (hopefully) complete list archive since that date (it's ~75.000 messages in Maildir format, 1.7GB uncompressed - I stopped reading it long ago, but unless I was silently unsubscribed I should still have received everything). I think that a decently skilled sysadmin could find a way to reinject those messages in the archives of whatever new listserver is installed. Maybe there are other people who have even older message sets (or I could have some older backups somewhere - when did the list actually start to function?). I believe the Caucus (thus, the IGC list) was created in 2003... unless it was in the late 2002. The first PrepComm was of the Africa region, somewhere in the second trimester of 2002, if my memory is correct. Then we had another regional one (Asia?) later that year. The thematic PrepComms got in full swing in 2003 (again possibly starting late 2002, speaking from the top of my head here) and from my recollection the Caucus was formed in the aftermath of the one that took place in Paris (UNESCO) back then. Adam or others could provide more references here or correct me. Mawaki Ciao -- vb. 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<20180101084911.ag4bhtaspbnorrst@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: I think this is a great move in trying to recover archives of the IGC. @Tapani, can we consider you taking the lead on this? So anyone else who want to help can send you a line so you can collaborate? 2018-01-01 10:49 UTC+02:00, Tapani Tarvainen : > I have reconstructed Mailman archives out of messages collected from > sundry sources. It is doable, sometimes even easy, sometimes harder, > depending on various factors like whether you can get the messages > "raw" (including all headers) or if they're only in some webmail-only > things without even any download option other than cut'n'paste or > saving as html. > > If people feel reconstructing the old list archives would be worthwhile, > I might give it a go. If you want to help in that and have a larg(ish) > part of the archive, drop me a line describing what you have, or actually > preferably just the headers of the *earliest* list message you have. > > In any case, > > Happy new year 2018 to all! > > Tapani > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 07:24:48PM -0400, Deirdre Williams > (williams.deirdre at gmail.com) wrote: >> >> Good idea Devon - would it work? >> I also have a fairly large archive in my email going back to 2008 at >> least. >> Perhaps among us we can reconstitute a lot of what seems to be lost? >> Happy New Year - it gets here in about 5 hours :-) >> Deirdre >> >> On 31 December 2017 at 19:09, Devon Blake wrote: >> >> > I'm pretty sure I have all the communications for quite a few years, as >> > I >> > haven't deleted anything. >> > Devon >> > >> > On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Jeremy Malcolm >> > wrote: >> > >> >> On 29/12/17 6:39 am, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote: >> >> > Thank you for this new list. >> >> > What will happen to the old archives? >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, it seems that they are gone forever. When the IGC's >> >> last >> >> hosting company went bankrupt and left us without access to the server >> >> except via the web, I went and downloaded all of the mail archives and >> >> transferred them to the new virtual server. But then when I regained >> >> access to the new machine recently when I was trying to get the >> >> mailing >> >> list working again, the archives had been deleted in the meantime. I >> >> don't know how or by whom. But unless a backup was taken at our >> >> hosting >> >> provider Digital Ocean (and I can't check this, because I don't have >> >> the >> >> login), this means the archives are lost for good. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jeremy Malcolm >> >> Senior Global Policy Analyst >> >> Electronic Frontier Foundation >> >> https://eff.org >> >> jmalcolm at eff.org >> >> >> >> Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 >> >> >> >> :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: >> >> >> >> Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt >> >> PGP fingerprint: 75D2 4C0D 35EA EA2F 8CA8 8F79 4911 EC4A EDDF 1122 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> To unsubscribe: >> >> List help: >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Devon Blake >> > ICT and Development Consultant >> > 22c Sullivan Ave >> > Kgn 8 >> > ,Phone: Office 876-649-9704, Mobile, digi 876-483-2632 >> > <(876)%20483-2632>, >> > flow 876-519-6266 >> > linkedin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/deblade >> > website:www.myintellicenter.com >> > >> > To be kind, To be helpful, To network >> > *Earthwise ... For Life!* >> > >> > --- >> > To unsubscribe: >> > List help: >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William >> Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > -- ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali* * Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN's GNSO Council Member. AFRINIC Fellow ( Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - Internet Governance - Internet Freedom. Check the *2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC* report (English ) and (French ) From raquino at gmail.com Fri Jan 19 09:41:10 2018 From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 11:41:10 -0300 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [Ext] Re: IGC Co-coordinators In-Reply-To: References: <38acd20d-30f1-7b5b-c62b-912feaaf409f@wzb.eu>

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<2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A80207D04B@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: >>>With other words, the IGC is the real father of the IGF. Hmm... Even if it is "a lista" it's not a "mother", but a "father" of the internet... On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Deirdre Williams < williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote: > In light of the message from Bestbits that I just forwarded, and for the > benefit of more recent subscribers to the Internet Governance Caucus, I > think it is useful to remember how the IGC began, so I am forwarding a > message sent earlier this month by Wolfgang to the more limited group of > "friends of IGC" (for want of a better term) who were trying to retrieve > the IGC space. > Things change and evolve. For this to happen in a fair and balanced manner > ALL of the voices need to be equally and actively involved. > Deirdre > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" medienkomm.uni-halle.de> > Date: 3 January 2018 at 14:08 > Subject: AW: [Ext] Re: IGC Co-coordinators > To: Adam Peake , Mawaki Chango , > Vittorio Bertola > Cc: Arsène Tungali , Deirdre Williams < > williams.deirdre at gmail.com>, Ian Peter , > "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" , > Jeanette Hofmann , Jeremy Malcolm < > jmalcolm at eff.org>, Akinremi Peter Taiwo , Bruna > Martins dos Santos