From governance at lists.riseup.net  Wed Dec  5 10:27:23 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 13:27:23 -0200
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting -
 thinking 2019 ahead.
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Dear all,

Thanks to all who answered to the poll and thread. I have just closed the
poll and t*he selected date for the meeting is Dec 13th, at 16h00 UTC*.

Please feel free to suggest agenda items and If anyone would like to help
facilitating the meeting, just let me know!

best,
Bruna

Em qua, 5 de dez de 2018 às 12:58, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
escreveu:

> I've also filled out the doodle, thanks Bruna!
>
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 15:17, Carolina Rossini <carolina.rossini at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-)
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need for a
>>> Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few opportunities we had
>>> to meet while in Paris.
>>>
>>> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss Civil
>>> Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS
>>> Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a
>>> possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>>>
>>> For that I have set up this doodle
>>> <https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested time slots
>>> on the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel free to
>>> suggest agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date and time
>>> of your preference - *and also to share it widely*.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> --
>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>
>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>> @boomartins
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Carolina Rossini *
>> + 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini
>> PGP ID:  0xEC81015C
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> *Sheetal Kumar*
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>
>

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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 16:01:58 -0200
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting -
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Dear all,

Thank you very much for all the agenda suggestions, from what you sent I
gathered this tentative agenda. Please let me know if I forgot to add
anything.

Civil Society Coordination Meeting - Dec 13th, 16h00 UTC

Agenda

1. 2018 in a nutshell: RightsCon, PP-18, IGF and FOC briefings.

2. Coordination for 2019:

   -

   Issues and forums that we should address as a stakeholder throughout
   2019.
   -

   Best way to address them?[joint statements, public comments, holding
   sessions, working with other stakeholders, etc)


3. Representations and Groups:

   -

   Mapping of different existing initiatives and civil society appointed
   representatives: How can we better support them?
   -

   MAG: How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their functions
   and hold them accountable?
   -

   BestBits Steering Committee - elections..To have or not to have


   -

   Merging BestBits and IGC?


4. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society network.

>From all of the discussion points you added, I divided the meeting into 2
parts - the first one would be dedicated to issues and forums and the
second part would be directed to the representation issues -. But as
mentioned, this is a tentative agenda, and we can take out some of the
items given that with this many items we are probably aiming for a 1,5/2h
meeting.

Last but not least, it is important to think of an ideal platform for the
meeting. I dont think google hangouts would work for this specific call
and, from the organizations that offered a virtual room, would anyone have
it at the time and date proposed and for 1,5/2h ?

Looking forward to hearing back from you!

best,
bruna



Em sex, 7 de dez de 2018 às 08:53, Baudouin SCHOMBE <b.schombe at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> Farzaneh's proposition finds a wide echo:
> 1.The civil society will have to make an assessment of the major problems
> discussed in previous years to avoid redundancy in 2019;
> 2.Thus, public comment broadcasts, the holding of sessions in
> collaboration with other stakeholders and the publication of joint
> statements should be considered;
> 3.As far as civil society representatives to MAG are concerned about their
> functions and responsibilities, we need a special session where we can
> discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these representatives. It's just
> for reframing to get better.
>
>
> *SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN*
>
> *SECRETAIRE EXECUTIF FGI-IGF RDC*
>
> *COORDONNATEUR NATIONALE CAFECICANN/AFRALO Member*
> *http://atlarge.icann.org <http://atlarge.icann.org>*
> *ISOC Member*
> Téléphone mobile:+243998983491/+243813684512
> email                  : b.schombe at gmail.com
> skype                 : b.schombe
> blog                    : http://akimambo.unblog.fr
>
>
>
>
>
> Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 08:26, Wisdom Donkor <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> a écrit :
>
>> I agree with Farnaneh's suggestion. We can include highlights of 2018 as
>> Bruna mention in her mail.
>>
>> *WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)*
>> President & CEO
>> Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (Co-Founder)
>> P.O. Box CT 2439, Cantonments, Accra
>> Tel: +233 20 812 8851
>> Skype: wisdom_dk | Facebook: kwasi wisdom |  Twitter: @wisdom_dk |
>> Linkdin: Kwasi wisdom
>> __________________________________________________
>> Specialization:
>> E-government Network Infrastructure and E-application, Internet
>> Governance,  Open Data policies platforms & Community Development, Cyber
>> Security, Software Engineering, Event Planning & Management,
>>
>> Member: UN IGF MultistatekeHolder Advisory Group
>> Member: UN BPF on Policy Option for Connecting and Enabling the Next
>> Billion
>> Member: UN BPF on Gender and Access
>> Member: UN IGF National Regional Initiatives
>> Member: UN BPF on IOT, Big Data and AI
>> Member: National SDG's data Roadmaps Advisory Committee, Ghana
>> Member / Fellow: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>> (ICANN)
>> Member: Internet Society
>> Member: Freedom Online Coalition (FOC)
>> Member / Alumni: Diplo Foundation
>> Member: OGP Open Data WG Member,
>> Partner: Global Open Data for Agriculture and Nutrition
>> Member: World Bank Open Data Working Team
>> Member: Africa Open Data Collaborative
>> Member: Ghana Energy Commission Data Task-force
>> Member: Linux Accra Users Group
>> Information Technology Association of Ghana, National Secretariat Manager
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:24 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Would Google Hang out work for everyone? If not I can provide the
>>> virtual room but it might not be available for some participants around the
>>> world.
>>>
>>> I suggest the following agenda:
>>>
>>> 1. What are the most important Internet governance issues that civil
>>> society should address throughout 2019.
>>> 2. What is the best way to address them? [issuing joint statements,
>>> issuing public comments, holding sessions etc, working with other
>>> stakeholders)
>>> 3. How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their functions
>>> and hold them accountable?
>>> 4. Merging BestBits and IGC?
>>> 5. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
>>> network.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 3:00 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to add 'Bestbits Steering Committee - elections..To have or
>>>> not to have' on the agenda.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 07:35, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I can see if we can use our Zoom account. @Bruna – will you create an
>>>>> agenda, or should we do it collaboratively?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:56 AM Arsène Tungali <
>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Bruna, all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for starting this thread and thanks everyone for their
>>>>>> contributions so far. My apologies as I can only join the discussion now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is great that we have a scheduled meeting and i really look
>>>>>> forward to it. I would encourage us all to contribute to the agenda setting
>>>>>> and plan on joining the call. Unfortunately, I could not join you all in
>>>>>> Paris and missed all different CS gatherings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to suggest an agenda item for the upcoming meeting :
>>>>>> “Mapping of different existing initiatives and list civil society appointed
>>>>>> representatives there. How can we better support them?”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The idea here is for us to start a google doc (before the meeting)
>>>>>> where we list various initiatives/mechanisms such as the HLPDC, IGF MAG,
>>>>>> etc and identify appointed CS representatives and then discuss how we can
>>>>>> best support them, amplifying their voice and ensuring they receive and
>>>>>> channel our contributions/inputs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> During the meeting on Dec 13, we can make sure we invite them to join
>>>>>> the call and encourage at least one of them to share on the latest
>>>>>> developments in their group and suggest ways the broader CS groups can
>>>>>> support them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am happy to facilitate this item on the agenda if given the
>>>>>> opportunity to do so and should we decide to have it on the meeting agenda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Arsene
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05 Dec 2018, at 17:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance
>>>>>> Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to all who answered to the poll and thread. I have just closed
>>>>>> the poll and t*he selected date for the meeting is Dec 13th, at
>>>>>> 16h00 UTC*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please feel free to suggest agenda items and If anyone would like to
>>>>>> help facilitating the meeting, just let me know!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best,
>>>>>> Bruna
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em qua, 5 de dez de 2018 às 12:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've also filled out the doodle, thanks Bruna!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 15:17, Carolina Rossini <
>>>>>>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need
>>>>>>>>> for a Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few opportunities
>>>>>>>>> we had to meet while in Paris.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss
>>>>>>>>> Civil Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS
>>>>>>>>> Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a
>>>>>>>>> possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For that I have set up this doodle
>>>>>>>>> <https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested time
>>>>>>>>> slots on the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel free to
>>>>>>>>> suggest agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date and time
>>>>>>>>> of your preference - *and also to share it widely*.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Carolina Rossini *
>>>>>>>> + 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini
>>>>>>>> PGP ID:  0xEC81015C
>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>
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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 13:05:08 -0500
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting -
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Thanks Bruna


I can offer a Blue jeans room if Zoom not available. It's similiar to zoom
in terms of functioning and restrictions.





On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 1:02 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Thank you very much for all the agenda suggestions, from what you sent I
> gathered this tentative agenda. Please let me know if I forgot to add
> anything.
>
> Civil Society Coordination Meeting - Dec 13th, 16h00 UTC
>
> Agenda
>
> 1. 2018 in a nutshell: RightsCon, PP-18, IGF and FOC briefings.
>
> 2. Coordination for 2019:
>
>    -
>
>    Issues and forums that we should address as a stakeholder throughout
>    2019.
>    -
>
>    Best way to address them?[joint statements, public comments, holding
>    sessions, working with other stakeholders, etc)
>
>
> 3. Representations and Groups:
>
>    -
>
>    Mapping of different existing initiatives and civil society appointed
>    representatives: How can we better support them?
>    -
>
>    MAG: How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their
>    functions and hold them accountable?
>    -
>
>    BestBits Steering Committee - elections..To have or not to have
>
>
>    -
>
>    Merging BestBits and IGC?
>
>
> 4. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
> network.
>
> From all of the discussion points you added, I divided the meeting into 2
> parts - the first one would be dedicated to issues and forums and the
> second part would be directed to the representation issues -. But as
> mentioned, this is a tentative agenda, and we can take out some of the
> items given that with this many items we are probably aiming for a 1,5/2h
> meeting.
>
> Last but not least, it is important to think of an ideal platform for the
> meeting. I dont think google hangouts would work for this specific call
> and, from the organizations that offered a virtual room, would anyone have
> it at the time and date proposed and for 1,5/2h ?
>
> Looking forward to hearing back from you!
>
> best,
>
> bruna
>
>
>
> Em sex, 7 de dez de 2018 às 08:53, Baudouin SCHOMBE <b.schombe at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> Farzaneh's proposition finds a wide echo:
>> 1.The civil society will have to make an assessment of the major problems
>> discussed in previous years to avoid redundancy in 2019;
>> 2.Thus, public comment broadcasts, the holding of sessions in
>> collaboration with other stakeholders and the publication of joint
>> statements should be considered;
>> 3.As far as civil society representatives to MAG are concerned about
>> their functions and responsibilities, we need a special session where we
>> can discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these representatives. It's
>> just for reframing to get better.
>>
>>
>> *SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN*
>>
>> *SECRETAIRE EXECUTIF FGI-IGF RDC*
>>
>> *COORDONNATEUR NATIONALE CAFECICANN/AFRALO Member*
>> *http://atlarge.icann.org <http://atlarge.icann.org>*
>> *ISOC Member*
>> Téléphone mobile:+243998983491/+243813684512
>> email                  : b.schombe at gmail.com
>> skype                 : b.schombe
>> blog                    : http://akimambo.unblog.fr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 08:26, Wisdom Donkor <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> I agree with Farnaneh's suggestion. We can include highlights of 2018 as
>>> Bruna mention in her mail.
>>>
>>> *WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)*
>>> President & CEO
>>> Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (Co-Founder)
>>> P.O. Box CT 2439, Cantonments, Accra
>>> Tel: +233 20 812 8851
>>> Skype: wisdom_dk | Facebook: kwasi wisdom |  Twitter: @wisdom_dk |
>>> Linkdin: Kwasi wisdom
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> Specialization:
>>> E-government Network Infrastructure and E-application, Internet
>>> Governance,  Open Data policies platforms & Community Development, Cyber
>>> Security, Software Engineering, Event Planning & Management,
>>>
>>> Member: UN IGF MultistatekeHolder Advisory Group
>>> Member: UN BPF on Policy Option for Connecting and Enabling the Next
>>> Billion
>>> Member: UN BPF on Gender and Access
>>> Member: UN IGF National Regional Initiatives
>>> Member: UN BPF on IOT, Big Data and AI
>>> Member: National SDG's data Roadmaps Advisory Committee, Ghana
>>> Member / Fellow: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>>> (ICANN)
>>> Member: Internet Society
>>> Member: Freedom Online Coalition (FOC)
>>> Member / Alumni: Diplo Foundation
>>> Member: OGP Open Data WG Member,
>>> Partner: Global Open Data for Agriculture and Nutrition
>>> Member: World Bank Open Data Working Team
>>> Member: Africa Open Data Collaborative
>>> Member: Ghana Energy Commission Data Task-force
>>> Member: Linux Accra Users Group
>>> Information Technology Association of Ghana, National Secretariat Manager
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:24 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would Google Hang out work for everyone? If not I can provide the
>>>> virtual room but it might not be available for some participants around the
>>>> world.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest the following agenda:
>>>>
>>>> 1. What are the most important Internet governance issues that civil
>>>> society should address throughout 2019.
>>>> 2. What is the best way to address them? [issuing joint statements,
>>>> issuing public comments, holding sessions etc, working with other
>>>> stakeholders)
>>>> 3. How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their functions
>>>> and hold them accountable?
>>>> 4. Merging BestBits and IGC?
>>>> 5. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
>>>> network.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 3:00 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to add 'Bestbits Steering Committee - elections..To have or
>>>>> not to have' on the agenda.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 07:35, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can see if we can use our Zoom account. @Bruna – will you create an
>>>>>> agenda, or should we do it collaboratively?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:56 AM Arsène Tungali <
>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Bruna, all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for starting this thread and thanks everyone for their
>>>>>>> contributions so far. My apologies as I can only join the discussion now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is great that we have a scheduled meeting and i really look
>>>>>>> forward to it. I would encourage us all to contribute to the agenda setting
>>>>>>> and plan on joining the call. Unfortunately, I could not join you all in
>>>>>>> Paris and missed all different CS gatherings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to suggest an agenda item for the upcoming meeting :
>>>>>>> “Mapping of different existing initiatives and list civil society appointed
>>>>>>> representatives there. How can we better support them?”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The idea here is for us to start a google doc (before the meeting)
>>>>>>> where we list various initiatives/mechanisms such as the HLPDC, IGF MAG,
>>>>>>> etc and identify appointed CS representatives and then discuss how we can
>>>>>>> best support them, amplifying their voice and ensuring they receive and
>>>>>>> channel our contributions/inputs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> During the meeting on Dec 13, we can make sure we invite them to
>>>>>>> join the call and encourage at least one of them to share on the latest
>>>>>>> developments in their group and suggest ways the broader CS groups can
>>>>>>> support them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am happy to facilitate this item on the agenda if given the
>>>>>>> opportunity to do so and should we decide to have it on the meeting agenda.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Arsene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 05 Dec 2018, at 17:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance
>>>>>>> Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to all who answered to the poll and thread. I have just
>>>>>>> closed the poll and t*he selected date for the meeting is Dec 13th,
>>>>>>> at 16h00 UTC*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please feel free to suggest agenda items and If anyone would like to
>>>>>>> help facilitating the meeting, just let me know!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>> Bruna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em qua, 5 de dez de 2018 às 12:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've also filled out the doodle, thanks Bruna!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 15:17, Carolina Rossini <
>>>>>>>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need
>>>>>>>>>> for a Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few opportunities
>>>>>>>>>> we had to meet while in Paris.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss
>>>>>>>>>> Civil Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS
>>>>>>>>>> Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a
>>>>>>>>>> possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For that I have set up this doodle
>>>>>>>>>> <https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested time
>>>>>>>>>> slots on the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel free to
>>>>>>>>>> suggest agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date and time
>>>>>>>>>> of your preference - *and also to share it widely*.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Carolina Rossini *
>>>>>>>>> + 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini
>>>>>>>>> PGP ID:  0xEC81015C
>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=68-80+Hanbury+Street,+London,+E1+5JL&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>> <igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>>
>>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=68-80+Hanbury+Street,+London,+E1+5JL&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>
>>> ---
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>>
>
> --
> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>
> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> @boomartins
>
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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Wisdom Donkor (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 06:13:17 +0000
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting -
 thinking 2019 ahead.
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Yes, Blue Jeans is equally a good platform.

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018, 6:05 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com wrote:

>
> Thanks Bruna
>
>
> I can offer a Blue jeans room if Zoom not available. It's similiar to zoom
> in terms of functioning and restrictions.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 1:02 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Thank you very much for all the agenda suggestions, from what you sent I
>> gathered this tentative agenda. Please let me know if I forgot to add
>> anything.
>>
>> Civil Society Coordination Meeting - Dec 13th, 16h00 UTC
>>
>> Agenda
>>
>> 1. 2018 in a nutshell: RightsCon, PP-18, IGF and FOC briefings.
>>
>> 2. Coordination for 2019:
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Issues and forums that we should address as a stakeholder throughout
>>    2019.
>>    -
>>
>>    Best way to address them?[joint statements, public comments, holding
>>    sessions, working with other stakeholders, etc)
>>
>>
>> 3. Representations and Groups:
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Mapping of different existing initiatives and civil society appointed
>>    representatives: How can we better support them?
>>    -
>>
>>    MAG: How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their
>>    functions and hold them accountable?
>>    -
>>
>>    BestBits Steering Committee - elections..To have or not to have
>>
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Merging BestBits and IGC?
>>
>>
>> 4. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
>> network.
>>
>> From all of the discussion points you added, I divided the meeting into 2
>> parts - the first one would be dedicated to issues and forums and the
>> second part would be directed to the representation issues -. But as
>> mentioned, this is a tentative agenda, and we can take out some of the
>> items given that with this many items we are probably aiming for a 1,5/2h
>> meeting.
>>
>> Last but not least, it is important to think of an ideal platform for the
>> meeting. I dont think google hangouts would work for this specific call
>> and, from the organizations that offered a virtual room, would anyone have
>> it at the time and date proposed and for 1,5/2h ?
>>
>> Looking forward to hearing back from you!
>>
>> best,
>>
>> bruna
>>
>>
>>
>> Em sex, 7 de dez de 2018 às 08:53, Baudouin SCHOMBE <b.schombe at gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Farzaneh's proposition finds a wide echo:
>>> 1.The civil society will have to make an assessment of the major
>>> problems discussed in previous years to avoid redundancy in 2019;
>>> 2.Thus, public comment broadcasts, the holding of sessions in
>>> collaboration with other stakeholders and the publication of joint
>>> statements should be considered;
>>> 3.As far as civil society representatives to MAG are concerned about
>>> their functions and responsibilities, we need a special session where we
>>> can discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these representatives. It's
>>> just for reframing to get better.
>>>
>>>
>>> *SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN*
>>>
>>> *SECRETAIRE EXECUTIF FGI-IGF RDC*
>>>
>>> *COORDONNATEUR NATIONALE CAFECICANN/AFRALO Member*
>>> *http://atlarge.icann.org <http://atlarge.icann.org>*
>>> *ISOC Member*
>>> Téléphone mobile:+243998983491/+243813684512
>>> email                  : b.schombe at gmail.com
>>> skype                 : b.schombe
>>> blog                    : http://akimambo.unblog.fr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 08:26, Wisdom Donkor <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>>> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> I agree with Farnaneh's suggestion. We can include highlights of 2018
>>>> as Bruna mention in her mail.
>>>>
>>>> *WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)*
>>>> President & CEO
>>>> Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (Co-Founder)
>>>> P.O. Box CT 2439, Cantonments, Accra
>>>> Tel: +233 20 812 8851
>>>> Skype: wisdom_dk | Facebook: kwasi wisdom |  Twitter: @wisdom_dk |
>>>> Linkdin: Kwasi wisdom
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> Specialization:
>>>> E-government Network Infrastructure and E-application, Internet
>>>> Governance,  Open Data policies platforms & Community Development, Cyber
>>>> Security, Software Engineering, Event Planning & Management,
>>>>
>>>> Member: UN IGF MultistatekeHolder Advisory Group
>>>> Member: UN BPF on Policy Option for Connecting and Enabling the Next
>>>> Billion
>>>> Member: UN BPF on Gender and Access
>>>> Member: UN IGF National Regional Initiatives
>>>> Member: UN BPF on IOT, Big Data and AI
>>>> Member: National SDG's data Roadmaps Advisory Committee, Ghana
>>>> Member / Fellow: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>>>> (ICANN)
>>>> Member: Internet Society
>>>> Member: Freedom Online Coalition (FOC)
>>>> Member / Alumni: Diplo Foundation
>>>> Member: OGP Open Data WG Member,
>>>> Partner: Global Open Data for Agriculture and Nutrition
>>>> Member: World Bank Open Data Working Team
>>>> Member: Africa Open Data Collaborative
>>>> Member: Ghana Energy Commission Data Task-force
>>>> Member: Linux Accra Users Group
>>>> Information Technology Association of Ghana, National
>>>> Secretariat Manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:24 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Would Google Hang out work for everyone? If not I can provide the
>>>>> virtual room but it might not be available for some participants around the
>>>>> world.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest the following agenda:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. What are the most important Internet governance issues that civil
>>>>> society should address throughout 2019.
>>>>> 2. What is the best way to address them? [issuing joint statements,
>>>>> issuing public comments, holding sessions etc, working with other
>>>>> stakeholders)
>>>>> 3. How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their functions
>>>>> and hold them accountable?
>>>>> 4. Merging BestBits and IGC?
>>>>> 5. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
>>>>> network.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 3:00 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to add 'Bestbits Steering Committee - elections..To have or
>>>>>> not to have' on the agenda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 07:35, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can see if we can use our Zoom account. @Bruna – will you create
>>>>>>> an agenda, or should we do it collaboratively?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:56 AM Arsène Tungali <
>>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Bruna, all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for starting this thread and thanks everyone for their
>>>>>>>> contributions so far. My apologies as I can only join the discussion now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is great that we have a scheduled meeting and i really look
>>>>>>>> forward to it. I would encourage us all to contribute to the agenda setting
>>>>>>>> and plan on joining the call. Unfortunately, I could not join you all in
>>>>>>>> Paris and missed all different CS gatherings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to suggest an agenda item for the upcoming meeting :
>>>>>>>> “Mapping of different existing initiatives and list civil society appointed
>>>>>>>> representatives there. How can we better support them?”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The idea here is for us to start a google doc (before the meeting)
>>>>>>>> where we list various initiatives/mechanisms such as the HLPDC, IGF MAG,
>>>>>>>> etc and identify appointed CS representatives and then discuss how we can
>>>>>>>> best support them, amplifying their voice and ensuring they receive and
>>>>>>>> channel our contributions/inputs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> During the meeting on Dec 13, we can make sure we invite them to
>>>>>>>> join the call and encourage at least one of them to share on the latest
>>>>>>>> developments in their group and suggest ways the broader CS groups can
>>>>>>>> support them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am happy to facilitate this item on the agenda if given the
>>>>>>>> opportunity to do so and should we decide to have it on the meeting agenda.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Arsene
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 05 Dec 2018, at 17:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance
>>>>>>>> Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks to all who answered to the poll and thread. I have just
>>>>>>>> closed the poll and t*he selected date for the meeting is Dec
>>>>>>>> 13th, at 16h00 UTC*.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please feel free to suggest agenda items and If anyone would like
>>>>>>>> to help facilitating the meeting, just let me know!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>>> Bruna
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em qua, 5 de dez de 2018 às 12:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've also filled out the doodle, thanks Bruna!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 15:17, Carolina Rossini <
>>>>>>>>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need
>>>>>>>>>>> for a Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few opportunities
>>>>>>>>>>> we had to meet while in Paris.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss
>>>>>>>>>>> Civil Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS
>>>>>>>>>>> Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a
>>>>>>>>>>> possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For that I have set up this doodle
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested
>>>>>>>>>>> time slots on the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel
>>>>>>>>>>> free to suggest agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date
>>>>>>>>>>> and time of your preference - *and also to share it widely*.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Carolina Rossini *
>>>>>>>>>> + 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini
>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID:  0xEC81015C
>>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=68-80+Hanbury+Street,+London,+E1+5JL&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>> <igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>>
>>>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=68-80+Hanbury+Street,+London,+E1+5JL&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
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>>>>
>>>> ---
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>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>
>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> @boomartins
>>
> --
> Farzaneh
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From: judith at jhellerstein.com (Judith Hellerstein)
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 20:49:05 -0500
Subject: [governance] Fwd: Plenipot 2018 Debrief: The role and impact of
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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Amrita" (via governance Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 13:02:15 +0530
Subject: [governance] Read about  the IG Events & Policy developments in
 November, 2018 from the Indian Perspective
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Dear All,

 

Apologies for cross posting. 

 

For those who may be interested, read curated news about Internet Governance
(IG) events and policies from Indian perspective in the CCAOI Nov 2018
newsletter using this link
<http://www.ccaoi.in/UI/links/fwnewsletter/CCAOI%20Newsletter%20November%202
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Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 10:54:03 -0800
Subject: [governance] Our People-Centered Digital Future | Right now via
 webcast!
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Today is the "Our People-Centered Digital Future" sponsored by Constellation
Research <https://www.constellationr.com/about>.

By March 2019, 50% of the world will be connected to the Internet, an
inflection point that marks an important moment for examining the
“unfinished work” of the Internet and discussing the community norms, human
rights and social contracts required in this exponential digital era.

The event recognizes both the 70th Anniversary of the Universal Declaration
of Human Rights
<http://www.unesco.org/new/en/brasilia/about-this-office/prizes-and-celebrations/70-years-of-the-universal-declaration-of-human-rights/>
(UDHR),
the event also recognizes the 50th anniversary of the "Mother of All Demos
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mother_of_All_Demos>."

The event is well underway. Internet co-inventor Vint Cerf and Web inventor
Sir Tim Berners-Lee have already delivered their introductory remarks. If
you missed their talks, don't worry. You can click on the Livestream
timeline below to view them.

There are many more events to come today into the late evening. This is a
simulcast of the YouTube feed at https://youtu.be/S87r9Bn058s> (which does
buffer occasionally), but with added AI captions and speaker names.

Below are the Livestream links:

   - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/ourdigitalfuture/
   - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/DigitalCooperation
   - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/coppaat20
   - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/CITIDFS-ICO
   - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/ConnectedNE
   - https://livestream.com/internetsociety2/js-nyc-nov18
   - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/swissigf18
   - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/iotsecurity2018-4
   - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/ukigf18
   - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/routingsecurity/
   - http://www.mnn.org/live/2-lifestyle-channel
   - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/diversity/
   - https://livestream.com/internetsociety/VisionsIG

For more, please see:

   - Event: https://www.constellationr.com/events/PCDF
   - Agenda: https://www.constellationr.com/events/PCDF/agenda/2018-12-10
   - Livestream: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/
   - SLI.DO: http://sli.do/ourdigitalfuture
   - #OurDigitalFuture: http://bit.ly/ourdigitalfuture
   - #StandUp4HumanRights: http://bit.ly/2PgVDOQ
   - Permalink: https://isoc.live/10734/

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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne?= Tungali (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 15:14:33 +0200
Subject: [governance] Final version of the 2018 Chair's summary now
 available
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(Apologies for crossposting)

Dear all,

As you probably know, I was appointed to the IGF 2019 MAG as a civil
society representative and i would like to thank you all for the
support. With this, I will be making sure i share with you any
updates, news from the MAG and will be reaching out to you when inputs
are needed.

Moreover, please do not hesitate to reach out should you need anything
from me or need to convey any concerns to the MAG.

Bellow, please find an important update, the IGF 2018 Chair's Summary
which is useful to everyone who attended the Paris meeting as well as
to those of us who did not make it to the IGF in Paris. This will help
you reflect on what happened as well as what's planned for the
upcoming IGF. Do not hesitate to share within your other networks.

If any question on this, do not hesitate as i will be happy to convey
to the right person.

Regards,
Arsene

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From: Chengetai Masango <chengetai.masango at un.org>

Dear All,

The final version of the  IGF 2018 Annual Meeting's Chair's summary is
now available on the IGF website :
https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/index.php?q=filedepot_download/6212/1417

Best regards

Chengetai

From governance at lists.riseup.net  Wed Dec 12 05:08:18 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nadira Alaraj (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 12:08:18 +0200
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting -
 thinking 2019 ahead.
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Dear Bruna,
Thank you for coordinating this meeting,
Have you circulated the link for tomorrow's meeting?
Please, can you share it again?
Thank you in advance,
Nadira AL-Araj


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On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 8:02 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Thank you very much for all the agenda suggestions, from what you sent I
> gathered this tentative agenda. Please let me know if I forgot to add
> anything.
>
> Civil Society Coordination Meeting - Dec 13th, 16h00 UTC
>
> Agenda
>
> 1. 2018 in a nutshell: RightsCon, PP-18, IGF and FOC briefings.
>
> 2. Coordination for 2019:
>
>    -
>
>    Issues and forums that we should address as a stakeholder throughout
>    2019.
>    -
>
>    Best way to address them?[joint statements, public comments, holding
>    sessions, working with other stakeholders, etc)
>
>
> 3. Representations and Groups:
>
>    -
>
>    Mapping of different existing initiatives and civil society appointed
>    representatives: How can we better support them?
>    -
>
>    MAG: How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their
>    functions and hold them accountable?
>    -
>
>    BestBits Steering Committee - elections..To have or not to have
>
>
>    -
>
>    Merging BestBits and IGC?
>
>
> 4. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
> network.
>
> From all of the discussion points you added, I divided the meeting into 2
> parts - the first one would be dedicated to issues and forums and the
> second part would be directed to the representation issues -. But as
> mentioned, this is a tentative agenda, and we can take out some of the
> items given that with this many items we are probably aiming for a 1,5/2h
> meeting.
>
> Last but not least, it is important to think of an ideal platform for the
> meeting. I dont think google hangouts would work for this specific call
> and, from the organizations that offered a virtual room, would anyone have
> it at the time and date proposed and for 1,5/2h ?
>
> Looking forward to hearing back from you!
>
> best,
> bruna
>
>
>
> Em sex, 7 de dez de 2018 às 08:53, Baudouin SCHOMBE <b.schombe at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> Farzaneh's proposition finds a wide echo:
>> 1.The civil society will have to make an assessment of the major problems
>> discussed in previous years to avoid redundancy in 2019;
>> 2.Thus, public comment broadcasts, the holding of sessions in
>> collaboration with other stakeholders and the publication of joint
>> statements should be considered;
>> 3.As far as civil society representatives to MAG are concerned about
>> their functions and responsibilities, we need a special session where we
>> can discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these representatives. It's
>> just for reframing to get better.
>>
>>
>> *SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN*
>>
>> *SECRETAIRE EXECUTIF FGI-IGF RDC*
>>
>> *COORDONNATEUR NATIONALE CAFECICANN/AFRALO Member*
>> *http://atlarge.icann.org <http://atlarge.icann.org>*
>> *ISOC Member*
>> Téléphone mobile:+243998983491/+243813684512
>> email                  : b.schombe at gmail.com
>> skype                 : b.schombe
>> blog                    : http://akimambo.unblog.fr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 08:26, Wisdom Donkor <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> I agree with Farnaneh's suggestion. We can include highlights of 2018 as
>>> Bruna mention in her mail.
>>>
>>> *WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)*
>>> President & CEO
>>> Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (Co-Founder)
>>> P.O. Box CT 2439, Cantonments, Accra
>>> Tel: +233 20 812 8851
>>> Skype: wisdom_dk | Facebook: kwasi wisdom |  Twitter: @wisdom_dk |
>>> Linkdin: Kwasi wisdom
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> Specialization:
>>> E-government Network Infrastructure and E-application, Internet
>>> Governance,  Open Data policies platforms & Community Development, Cyber
>>> Security, Software Engineering, Event Planning & Management,
>>>
>>> Member: UN IGF MultistatekeHolder Advisory Group
>>> Member: UN BPF on Policy Option for Connecting and Enabling the Next
>>> Billion
>>> Member: UN BPF on Gender and Access
>>> Member: UN IGF National Regional Initiatives
>>> Member: UN BPF on IOT, Big Data and AI
>>> Member: National SDG's data Roadmaps Advisory Committee, Ghana
>>> Member / Fellow: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>>> (ICANN)
>>> Member: Internet Society
>>> Member: Freedom Online Coalition (FOC)
>>> Member / Alumni: Diplo Foundation
>>> Member: OGP Open Data WG Member,
>>> Partner: Global Open Data for Agriculture and Nutrition
>>> Member: World Bank Open Data Working Team
>>> Member: Africa Open Data Collaborative
>>> Member: Ghana Energy Commission Data Task-force
>>> Member: Linux Accra Users Group
>>> Information Technology Association of Ghana, National Secretariat Manager
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:24 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would Google Hang out work for everyone? If not I can provide the
>>>> virtual room but it might not be available for some participants around the
>>>> world.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest the following agenda:
>>>>
>>>> 1. What are the most important Internet governance issues that civil
>>>> society should address throughout 2019.
>>>> 2. What is the best way to address them? [issuing joint statements,
>>>> issuing public comments, holding sessions etc, working with other
>>>> stakeholders)
>>>> 3. How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their functions
>>>> and hold them accountable?
>>>> 4. Merging BestBits and IGC?
>>>> 5. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
>>>> network.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 3:00 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to add 'Bestbits Steering Committee - elections..To have or
>>>>> not to have' on the agenda.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 07:35, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can see if we can use our Zoom account. @Bruna – will you create an
>>>>>> agenda, or should we do it collaboratively?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:56 AM Arsène Tungali <
>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Bruna, all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for starting this thread and thanks everyone for their
>>>>>>> contributions so far. My apologies as I can only join the discussion now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is great that we have a scheduled meeting and i really look
>>>>>>> forward to it. I would encourage us all to contribute to the agenda setting
>>>>>>> and plan on joining the call. Unfortunately, I could not join you all in
>>>>>>> Paris and missed all different CS gatherings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to suggest an agenda item for the upcoming meeting :
>>>>>>> “Mapping of different existing initiatives and list civil society appointed
>>>>>>> representatives there. How can we better support them?”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The idea here is for us to start a google doc (before the meeting)
>>>>>>> where we list various initiatives/mechanisms such as the HLPDC, IGF MAG,
>>>>>>> etc and identify appointed CS representatives and then discuss how we can
>>>>>>> best support them, amplifying their voice and ensuring they receive and
>>>>>>> channel our contributions/inputs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> During the meeting on Dec 13, we can make sure we invite them to
>>>>>>> join the call and encourage at least one of them to share on the latest
>>>>>>> developments in their group and suggest ways the broader CS groups can
>>>>>>> support them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am happy to facilitate this item on the agenda if given the
>>>>>>> opportunity to do so and should we decide to have it on the meeting agenda.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Arsene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 05 Dec 2018, at 17:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance
>>>>>>> Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to all who answered to the poll and thread. I have just
>>>>>>> closed the poll and t*he selected date for the meeting is Dec 13th,
>>>>>>> at 16h00 UTC*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please feel free to suggest agenda items and If anyone would like to
>>>>>>> help facilitating the meeting, just let me know!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>> Bruna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em qua, 5 de dez de 2018 às 12:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've also filled out the doodle, thanks Bruna!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 15:17, Carolina Rossini <
>>>>>>>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need
>>>>>>>>>> for a Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few opportunities
>>>>>>>>>> we had to meet while in Paris.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss
>>>>>>>>>> Civil Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS
>>>>>>>>>> Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a
>>>>>>>>>> possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For that I have set up this doodle
>>>>>>>>>> <https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested time
>>>>>>>>>> slots on the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel free to
>>>>>>>>>> suggest agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date and time
>>>>>>>>>> of your preference - *and also to share it widely*.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>>>> @boomartins
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Carolina Rossini *
>>>>>>>>> + 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini
>>>>>>>>> PGP ID:  0xEC81015C
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>> @boomartins
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>
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>
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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:02:27 -0500
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting -
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Hi Nadira

We have not yet circulated the link since I have not created a it yet. I
will send Bruna the info as soon as possible.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 5:08 AM Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Bruna,
> Thank you for coordinating this meeting,
> Have you circulated the link for tomorrow's meeting?
> Please, can you share it again?
> Thank you in advance,
> Nadira AL-Araj
>
>
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> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 8:02 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Thank you very much for all the agenda suggestions, from what you sent I
>> gathered this tentative agenda. Please let me know if I forgot to add
>> anything.
>>
>> Civil Society Coordination Meeting - Dec 13th, 16h00 UTC
>>
>> Agenda
>>
>> 1. 2018 in a nutshell: RightsCon, PP-18, IGF and FOC briefings.
>>
>> 2. Coordination for 2019:
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Issues and forums that we should address as a stakeholder throughout
>>    2019.
>>    -
>>
>>    Best way to address them?[joint statements, public comments, holding
>>    sessions, working with other stakeholders, etc)
>>
>>
>> 3. Representations and Groups:
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Mapping of different existing initiatives and civil society appointed
>>    representatives: How can we better support them?
>>    -
>>
>>    MAG: How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their
>>    functions and hold them accountable?
>>    -
>>
>>    BestBits Steering Committee - elections..To have or not to have
>>
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Merging BestBits and IGC?
>>
>>
>> 4. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
>> network.
>>
>> From all of the discussion points you added, I divided the meeting into 2
>> parts - the first one would be dedicated to issues and forums and the
>> second part would be directed to the representation issues -. But as
>> mentioned, this is a tentative agenda, and we can take out some of the
>> items given that with this many items we are probably aiming for a 1,5/2h
>> meeting.
>>
>> Last but not least, it is important to think of an ideal platform for the
>> meeting. I dont think google hangouts would work for this specific call
>> and, from the organizations that offered a virtual room, would anyone have
>> it at the time and date proposed and for 1,5/2h ?
>>
>> Looking forward to hearing back from you!
>>
>> best,
>> bruna
>>
>>
>>
>> Em sex, 7 de dez de 2018 às 08:53, Baudouin SCHOMBE <b.schombe at gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Farzaneh's proposition finds a wide echo:
>>> 1.The civil society will have to make an assessment of the major
>>> problems discussed in previous years to avoid redundancy in 2019;
>>> 2.Thus, public comment broadcasts, the holding of sessions in
>>> collaboration with other stakeholders and the publication of joint
>>> statements should be considered;
>>> 3.As far as civil society representatives to MAG are concerned about
>>> their functions and responsibilities, we need a special session where we
>>> can discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these representatives. It's
>>> just for reframing to get better.
>>>
>>>
>>> *SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN*
>>>
>>> *SECRETAIRE EXECUTIF FGI-IGF RDC*
>>>
>>> *COORDONNATEUR NATIONALE CAFECICANN/AFRALO Member*
>>> *http://atlarge.icann.org <http://atlarge.icann.org>*
>>> *ISOC Member*
>>> Téléphone mobile:+243998983491/+243813684512
>>> email                  : b.schombe at gmail.com
>>> skype                 : b.schombe
>>> blog                    : http://akimambo.unblog.fr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 08:26, Wisdom Donkor <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>>> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> I agree with Farnaneh's suggestion. We can include highlights of 2018
>>>> as Bruna mention in her mail.
>>>>
>>>> *WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)*
>>>> President & CEO
>>>> Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (Co-Founder)
>>>> P.O. Box CT 2439, Cantonments, Accra
>>>> Tel: +233 20 812 8851
>>>> Skype: wisdom_dk | Facebook: kwasi wisdom |  Twitter: @wisdom_dk |
>>>> Linkdin: Kwasi wisdom
>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> Specialization:
>>>> E-government Network Infrastructure and E-application, Internet
>>>> Governance,  Open Data policies platforms & Community Development, Cyber
>>>> Security, Software Engineering, Event Planning & Management,
>>>>
>>>> Member: UN IGF MultistatekeHolder Advisory Group
>>>> Member: UN BPF on Policy Option for Connecting and Enabling the Next
>>>> Billion
>>>> Member: UN BPF on Gender and Access
>>>> Member: UN IGF National Regional Initiatives
>>>> Member: UN BPF on IOT, Big Data and AI
>>>> Member: National SDG's data Roadmaps Advisory Committee, Ghana
>>>> Member / Fellow: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>>>> (ICANN)
>>>> Member: Internet Society
>>>> Member: Freedom Online Coalition (FOC)
>>>> Member / Alumni: Diplo Foundation
>>>> Member: OGP Open Data WG Member,
>>>> Partner: Global Open Data for Agriculture and Nutrition
>>>> Member: World Bank Open Data Working Team
>>>> Member: Africa Open Data Collaborative
>>>> Member: Ghana Energy Commission Data Task-force
>>>> Member: Linux Accra Users Group
>>>> Information Technology Association of Ghana, National
>>>> Secretariat Manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:24 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Would Google Hang out work for everyone? If not I can provide the
>>>>> virtual room but it might not be available for some participants around the
>>>>> world.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest the following agenda:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. What are the most important Internet governance issues that civil
>>>>> society should address throughout 2019.
>>>>> 2. What is the best way to address them? [issuing joint statements,
>>>>> issuing public comments, holding sessions etc, working with other
>>>>> stakeholders)
>>>>> 3. How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their functions
>>>>> and hold them accountable?
>>>>> 4. Merging BestBits and IGC?
>>>>> 5. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
>>>>> network.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 3:00 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to add 'Bestbits Steering Committee - elections..To have or
>>>>>> not to have' on the agenda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 07:35, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can see if we can use our Zoom account. @Bruna – will you create
>>>>>>> an agenda, or should we do it collaboratively?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:56 AM Arsène Tungali <
>>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Bruna, all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for starting this thread and thanks everyone for their
>>>>>>>> contributions so far. My apologies as I can only join the discussion now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is great that we have a scheduled meeting and i really look
>>>>>>>> forward to it. I would encourage us all to contribute to the agenda setting
>>>>>>>> and plan on joining the call. Unfortunately, I could not join you all in
>>>>>>>> Paris and missed all different CS gatherings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to suggest an agenda item for the upcoming meeting :
>>>>>>>> “Mapping of different existing initiatives and list civil society appointed
>>>>>>>> representatives there. How can we better support them?”
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The idea here is for us to start a google doc (before the meeting)
>>>>>>>> where we list various initiatives/mechanisms such as the HLPDC, IGF MAG,
>>>>>>>> etc and identify appointed CS representatives and then discuss how we can
>>>>>>>> best support them, amplifying their voice and ensuring they receive and
>>>>>>>> channel our contributions/inputs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> During the meeting on Dec 13, we can make sure we invite them to
>>>>>>>> join the call and encourage at least one of them to share on the latest
>>>>>>>> developments in their group and suggest ways the broader CS groups can
>>>>>>>> support them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am happy to facilitate this item on the agenda if given the
>>>>>>>> opportunity to do so and should we decide to have it on the meeting agenda.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Arsene
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 05 Dec 2018, at 17:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance
>>>>>>>> Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks to all who answered to the poll and thread. I have just
>>>>>>>> closed the poll and t*he selected date for the meeting is Dec
>>>>>>>> 13th, at 16h00 UTC*.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please feel free to suggest agenda items and If anyone would like
>>>>>>>> to help facilitating the meeting, just let me know!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>>> Bruna
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em qua, 5 de dez de 2018 às 12:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've also filled out the doodle, thanks Bruna!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 15:17, Carolina Rossini <
>>>>>>>>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need
>>>>>>>>>>> for a Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few opportunities
>>>>>>>>>>> we had to meet while in Paris.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss
>>>>>>>>>>> Civil Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS
>>>>>>>>>>> Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a
>>>>>>>>>>> possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For that I have set up this doodle
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested
>>>>>>>>>>> time slots on the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel
>>>>>>>>>>> free to suggest agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date
>>>>>>>>>>> and time of your preference - *and also to share it widely*.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>> *Carolina Rossini *
>>>>>>>>>> + 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> @boomartins
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>>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=68-80+Hanbury+Street,+London,+E1+5JL&entry=gmail&source=g>
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>>>>>>
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>>
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Dear all,

Below follows the information for joining our coordination meeting tomorrow
(13th Dec) @ 16h00 UTC. Thank you very much @farzaneh badii
<farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> for facilitating the conference room and I will
also share the google calendar invite soon.
______________________________
Date: 13 December
Time: 16.00 UTC

To join the Meeting:
https://bluejeans.com/929520616

To join via Room System:
Video Conferencing System: bjn.vc -or-199.48.152.152
Meeting ID : 929520616

To join via phone :
1)  Dial:
+1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
+1.888.240.2560 (US Toll Free)
+1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
(see all numbers - http://bluejeans.com/numbers)
2)  Enter Conference ID : 929520616

Best,
bruna

Em qua, 12 de dez de 2018 às 10:02, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> Hi Nadira
>
> We have not yet circulated the link since I have not created a it yet. I
> will send Bruna the info as soon as possible.
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 5:08 AM Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Bruna,
>> Thank you for coordinating this meeting,
>> Have you circulated the link for tomorrow's meeting?
>> Please, can you share it again?
>> Thank you in advance,
>> Nadira AL-Araj
>>
>>
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>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 8:02 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for all the agenda suggestions, from what you sent I
>>> gathered this tentative agenda. Please let me know if I forgot to add
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> Civil Society Coordination Meeting - Dec 13th, 16h00 UTC
>>>
>>> Agenda
>>>
>>> 1. 2018 in a nutshell: RightsCon, PP-18, IGF and FOC briefings.
>>>
>>> 2. Coordination for 2019:
>>>
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    Issues and forums that we should address as a stakeholder throughout
>>>    2019.
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    Best way to address them?[joint statements, public comments, holding
>>>    sessions, working with other stakeholders, etc)
>>>
>>>
>>> 3. Representations and Groups:
>>>
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    Mapping of different existing initiatives and civil society
>>>    appointed representatives: How can we better support them?
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    MAG: How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their
>>>    functions and hold them accountable?
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    BestBits Steering Committee - elections..To have or not to have
>>>
>>>
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    Merging BestBits and IGC?
>>>
>>>
>>> 4. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
>>> network.
>>>
>>> From all of the discussion points you added, I divided the meeting into
>>> 2 parts - the first one would be dedicated to issues and forums and the
>>> second part would be directed to the representation issues -. But as
>>> mentioned, this is a tentative agenda, and we can take out some of the
>>> items given that with this many items we are probably aiming for a 1,5/2h
>>> meeting.
>>>
>>> Last but not least, it is important to think of an ideal platform for
>>> the meeting. I dont think google hangouts would work for this specific call
>>> and, from the organizations that offered a virtual room, would anyone have
>>> it at the time and date proposed and for 1,5/2h ?
>>>
>>> Looking forward to hearing back from you!
>>>
>>> best,
>>> bruna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Em sex, 7 de dez de 2018 às 08:53, Baudouin SCHOMBE <b.schombe at gmail.com>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Farzaneh's proposition finds a wide echo:
>>>> 1.The civil society will have to make an assessment of the major
>>>> problems discussed in previous years to avoid redundancy in 2019;
>>>> 2.Thus, public comment broadcasts, the holding of sessions in
>>>> collaboration with other stakeholders and the publication of joint
>>>> statements should be considered;
>>>> 3.As far as civil society representatives to MAG are concerned about
>>>> their functions and responsibilities, we need a special session where we
>>>> can discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these representatives. It's
>>>> just for reframing to get better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN*
>>>>
>>>> *SECRETAIRE EXECUTIF FGI-IGF RDC*
>>>>
>>>> *COORDONNATEUR NATIONALE CAFECICANN/AFRALO Member*
>>>> *http://atlarge.icann.org <http://atlarge.icann.org>*
>>>> *ISOC Member*
>>>> Téléphone mobile:+243998983491/+243813684512
>>>> email                  : b.schombe at gmail.com
>>>> skype                 : b.schombe
>>>> blog                    : http://akimambo.unblog.fr
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 08:26, Wisdom Donkor <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>>>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Farnaneh's suggestion. We can include highlights of 2018
>>>>> as Bruna mention in her mail.
>>>>>
>>>>> *WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)*
>>>>> President & CEO
>>>>> Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (Co-Founder)
>>>>> P.O. Box CT 2439, Cantonments, Accra
>>>>> Tel: +233 20 812 8851
>>>>> Skype: wisdom_dk | Facebook: kwasi wisdom |  Twitter: @wisdom_dk |
>>>>> Linkdin: Kwasi wisdom
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> Specialization:
>>>>> E-government Network Infrastructure and E-application, Internet
>>>>> Governance,  Open Data policies platforms & Community Development, Cyber
>>>>> Security, Software Engineering, Event Planning & Management,
>>>>>
>>>>> Member: UN IGF MultistatekeHolder Advisory Group
>>>>> Member: UN BPF on Policy Option for Connecting and Enabling the Next
>>>>> Billion
>>>>> Member: UN BPF on Gender and Access
>>>>> Member: UN IGF National Regional Initiatives
>>>>> Member: UN BPF on IOT, Big Data and AI
>>>>> Member: National SDG's data Roadmaps Advisory Committee, Ghana
>>>>> Member / Fellow: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>>>>> (ICANN)
>>>>> Member: Internet Society
>>>>> Member: Freedom Online Coalition (FOC)
>>>>> Member / Alumni: Diplo Foundation
>>>>> Member: OGP Open Data WG Member,
>>>>> Partner: Global Open Data for Agriculture and Nutrition
>>>>> Member: World Bank Open Data Working Team
>>>>> Member: Africa Open Data Collaborative
>>>>> Member: Ghana Energy Commission Data Task-force
>>>>> Member: Linux Accra Users Group
>>>>> Information Technology Association of Ghana, National
>>>>> Secretariat Manager
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:24 PM farzaneh badii <
>>>>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Would Google Hang out work for everyone? If not I can provide the
>>>>>> virtual room but it might not be available for some participants around the
>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggest the following agenda:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. What are the most important Internet governance issues that civil
>>>>>> society should address throughout 2019.
>>>>>> 2. What is the best way to address them? [issuing joint statements,
>>>>>> issuing public comments, holding sessions etc, working with other
>>>>>> stakeholders)
>>>>>> 3. How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their
>>>>>> functions and hold them accountable?
>>>>>> 4. Merging BestBits and IGC?
>>>>>> 5. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
>>>>>> network.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 3:00 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to add 'Bestbits Steering Committee - elections..To have or
>>>>>>> not to have' on the agenda.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 07:35, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can see if we can use our Zoom account. @Bruna – will you create
>>>>>>>> an agenda, or should we do it collaboratively?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:56 AM Arsène Tungali <
>>>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Bruna, all
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for starting this thread and thanks everyone for their
>>>>>>>>> contributions so far. My apologies as I can only join the discussion now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is great that we have a scheduled meeting and i really look
>>>>>>>>> forward to it. I would encourage us all to contribute to the agenda setting
>>>>>>>>> and plan on joining the call. Unfortunately, I could not join you all in
>>>>>>>>> Paris and missed all different CS gatherings.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like to suggest an agenda item for the upcoming meeting :
>>>>>>>>> “Mapping of different existing initiatives and list civil society appointed
>>>>>>>>> representatives there. How can we better support them?”
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The idea here is for us to start a google doc (before the meeting)
>>>>>>>>> where we list various initiatives/mechanisms such as the HLPDC, IGF MAG,
>>>>>>>>> etc and identify appointed CS representatives and then discuss how we can
>>>>>>>>> best support them, amplifying their voice and ensuring they receive and
>>>>>>>>> channel our contributions/inputs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> During the meeting on Dec 13, we can make sure we invite them to
>>>>>>>>> join the call and encourage at least one of them to share on the latest
>>>>>>>>> developments in their group and suggest ways the broader CS groups can
>>>>>>>>> support them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am happy to facilitate this item on the agenda if given the
>>>>>>>>> opportunity to do so and should we decide to have it on the meeting agenda.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Arsene
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 05 Dec 2018, at 17:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance
>>>>>>>>> Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks to all who answered to the poll and thread. I have just
>>>>>>>>> closed the poll and t*he selected date for the meeting is Dec
>>>>>>>>> 13th, at 16h00 UTC*.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please feel free to suggest agenda items and If anyone would like
>>>>>>>>> to help facilitating the meeting, just let me know!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>>>> Bruna
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em qua, 5 de dez de 2018 às 12:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've also filled out the doodle, thanks Bruna!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 15:17, Carolina Rossini <
>>>>>>>>>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the
>>>>>>>>>>>> need for a Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few
>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunities we had to meet while in Paris.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS
>>>>>>>>>>>> Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a
>>>>>>>>>>>> possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For that I have set up this doodle
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested
>>>>>>>>>>>> time slots on the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel
>>>>>>>>>>>> free to suggest agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date
>>>>>>>>>>>> and time of your preference - *and also to share it widely*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Carolina Rossini *
>>>>>>>>>>> + 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini
>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID:  0xEC81015C
>>>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
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>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=68-80+Hanbury+Street,+London,+E1+5JL&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=68-80+Hanbury+Street,+London,+E1+5JL&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>
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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne?= Tungali (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:56:29 +0200
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting -
 thinking 2019 ahead.
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Hi Bruna, all

Thanks for starting this thread and thanks everyone for their contributions so far. My apologies as I can only join the discussion now.

It is great that we have a scheduled meeting and i really look forward to it. I would encourage us all to contribute to the agenda setting and plan on joining the call. Unfortunately, I could not join you all in Paris and missed all different CS gatherings.

I would like to suggest an agenda item for the upcoming meeting : “Mapping of different existing initiatives and list civil society appointed representatives there. How can we better support them?” 

The idea here is for us to start a google doc (before the meeting) where we list various initiatives/mechanisms such as the HLPDC, IGF MAG, etc and identify appointed CS representatives and then discuss how we can best support them, amplifying their voice and ensuring they receive and channel our contributions/inputs.

During the meeting on Dec 13, we can make sure we invite them to join the call and encourage at least one of them to share on the latest developments in their group and suggest ways the broader CS groups can support them.

I am happy to facilitate this item on the agenda if given the opportunity to do so and should we decide to have it on the meeting agenda.

Regards,
Arsene

Sent from my iPhone

> On 05 Dec 2018, at 17:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> 
> Dear all, 
> 
> Thanks to all who answered to the poll and thread. I have just closed the poll and the selected date for the meeting is Dec 13th, at 16h00 UTC. 
> 
> Please feel free to suggest agenda items and If anyone would like to help facilitating the meeting, just let me know! 
> 
> best, 
> Bruna 
> 
>> Em qua, 5 de dez de 2018 às 12:58, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> escreveu:
>> I've also filled out the doodle, thanks Bruna! 
>> 
>>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 15:17, Carolina Rossini <carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-) 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Dear all, 
>>>> 
>>>> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need for a Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few opportunities we had to meet while in Paris. 
>>>> 
>>>> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss Civil Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>>>> 
>>>> For that I have set up this doodle - with suggested time slots on the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel free to suggest agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date and time of your preference - and also to share it widely. 
>>>> 
>>>> Best, 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos 
>>>> 
>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>> @boomartins
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> Carolina Rossini 
>>> + 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini 
>>> PGP ID:  0xEC81015C
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
>> Sheetal Kumar
>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  | 
>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31| 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bruna Martins dos Santos 
> 
> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> @boomartins
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Wed Dec 12 11:02:56 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 16:02:56 +0000
Subject: [governance] Civil Society Coordination Meeting
Message-ID: <000000000000d4d33f057cd55400@google.com>

Dear all,

Please find the google calendar invitation for our Civil Society  
Coordination meeting tomorrow at 16h00 utc.


The agenda for this meeting is the following:

Civil Society Coordination Meeting - Dec 13th, 16h00 UTC

Agenda
1. 2018 in a nutshell: RightsCon, PP-18, IGF and FOC briefings.
2. Coordination for 2019:
- Issues and forums that we should address as a stakeholder throughout 2019.
- Best way to address them?[joint statements, public comments, holding  
sessions, working with other stakeholders, etc)

3. Representations and Groups:
- Mapping of different existing initiatives and civil society appointed  
representatives: How can we better support them?
- MAG: How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their functions  
and hold them accountable?
- BestBits Steering Committee - elections..To have or not to have
- Merging BestBits and IGC?

4. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society network.
__________________
Link to the google calendar:  
https://calendar.google.com/event?action=TEMPLATE&tmeid=XzhoMTZzazFrYnNzbXFzM2Y4bDk0dWNqYTZwMDVhZGFjZW9wbXNrYjhlMWNqY2hyMmExamcgYnJ1bmEubXJ0bnNAbQ&tmsrc=bruna.mrtns%40gmail.com

Título: Civil Society Coordination Meeting

To join the meeting on a computer or mobile phone:  
https://bluejeans.com/929520616?src=calendarLink



Phone Dial-in
+1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
+1.888.240.2560 (US Toll Free)
+1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
Global Numbers: http://bluejeans.com/numbers

Meeting ID: 929 520 616

Room System
199.48.152.152 or bjn.vc

Meeting ID: 929 520 616

Description:
Internet Governance civil society coordination.

Want to test your video connection?
https://bluejeans.com/111


Quando: qui 13 dez 2018 14:00 – 15:00 Horário de Brasília
Onde: https://bluejeans.com/929520616?src=calendarLink
Quem:
     * farzi at gatech.edu- organizador
     * Bruna Martins dos Santos- criador
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Wed Dec 12 12:03:11 2018
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 19:03:11 +0200
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting -
 thinking 2019 ahead.
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Dear Bruna,

Thanks for the summary and for coming up with the agenda. I just have
a slight edit to suggest, bearing in mind that we don't have the whole
day for us.

I think the bellow two agenda items can be merged and only keep the
first one which is inclusive of the second:

- Mapping of different existing initiatives and civil society
appointed representatives: How can we better support them?
- MAG: How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their
functions and hold them accountable?

The IGF MAG is to be considered as just one of the initiatives to map
and whose members need to be advised and hold accountable.

Hoping this is clear, i look forward to the call. Thanks again for all
the efforts.

Thanks,
Arsene

2018-12-09 20:01 UTC+02:00, Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>:
> Dear all,
>
> Thank you very much for all the agenda suggestions, from what you sent I
> gathered this tentative agenda. Please let me know if I forgot to add
> anything.
>
> Civil Society Coordination Meeting - Dec 13th, 16h00 UTC
>
> Agenda
>
> 1. 2018 in a nutshell: RightsCon, PP-18, IGF and FOC briefings.
>
> 2. Coordination for 2019:
>
>    -
>
>    Issues and forums that we should address as a stakeholder throughout
>    2019.
>    -
>
>    Best way to address them?[joint statements, public comments, holding
>    sessions, working with other stakeholders, etc)
>
>
> 3. Representations and Groups:
>
>    -
>
>    Mapping of different existing initiatives and civil society appointed
>    representatives: How can we better support them?
>    -
>
>    MAG: How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their functions
>    and hold them accountable?
>    -
>
>    BestBits Steering Committee - elections..To have or not to have
>
>
>    -
>
>    Merging BestBits and IGC?
>
>
> 4. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society network.
>
> From all of the discussion points you added, I divided the meeting into 2
> parts - the first one would be dedicated to issues and forums and the
> second part would be directed to the representation issues -. But as
> mentioned, this is a tentative agenda, and we can take out some of the
> items given that with this many items we are probably aiming for a 1,5/2h
> meeting.
>
> Last but not least, it is important to think of an ideal platform for the
> meeting. I dont think google hangouts would work for this specific call
> and, from the organizations that offered a virtual room, would anyone have
> it at the time and date proposed and for 1,5/2h ?
>
> Looking forward to hearing back from you!
>
> best,
> bruna
>
>
>
> Em sex, 7 de dez de 2018 às 08:53, Baudouin SCHOMBE <b.schombe at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> Farzaneh's proposition finds a wide echo:
>> 1.The civil society will have to make an assessment of the major problems
>> discussed in previous years to avoid redundancy in 2019;
>> 2.Thus, public comment broadcasts, the holding of sessions in
>> collaboration with other stakeholders and the publication of joint
>> statements should be considered;
>> 3.As far as civil society representatives to MAG are concerned about
>> their
>> functions and responsibilities, we need a special session where we can
>> discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these representatives. It's just
>> for reframing to get better.
>>
>>
>> *SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN*
>>
>> *SECRETAIRE EXECUTIF FGI-IGF RDC*
>>
>> *COORDONNATEUR NATIONALE CAFECICANN/AFRALO Member*
>> *http://atlarge.icann.org <http://atlarge.icann.org>*
>> *ISOC Member*
>> Téléphone mobile:+243998983491/+243813684512
>> email                  : b.schombe at gmail.com
>> skype                 : b.schombe
>> blog                    : http://akimambo.unblog.fr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 08:26, Wisdom Donkor <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> I agree with Farnaneh's suggestion. We can include highlights of 2018 as
>>> Bruna mention in her mail.
>>>
>>> *WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)*
>>> President & CEO
>>> Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (Co-Founder)
>>> P.O. Box CT 2439, Cantonments, Accra
>>> Tel: +233 20 812 8851
>>> Skype: wisdom_dk | Facebook: kwasi wisdom |  Twitter: @wisdom_dk |
>>> Linkdin: Kwasi wisdom
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> Specialization:
>>> E-government Network Infrastructure and E-application, Internet
>>> Governance,  Open Data policies platforms & Community Development, Cyber
>>> Security, Software Engineering, Event Planning & Management,
>>>
>>> Member: UN IGF MultistatekeHolder Advisory Group
>>> Member: UN BPF on Policy Option for Connecting and Enabling the Next
>>> Billion
>>> Member: UN BPF on Gender and Access
>>> Member: UN IGF National Regional Initiatives
>>> Member: UN BPF on IOT, Big Data and AI
>>> Member: National SDG's data Roadmaps Advisory Committee, Ghana
>>> Member / Fellow: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>>> (ICANN)
>>> Member: Internet Society
>>> Member: Freedom Online Coalition (FOC)
>>> Member / Alumni: Diplo Foundation
>>> Member: OGP Open Data WG Member,
>>> Partner: Global Open Data for Agriculture and Nutrition
>>> Member: World Bank Open Data Working Team
>>> Member: Africa Open Data Collaborative
>>> Member: Ghana Energy Commission Data Task-force
>>> Member: Linux Accra Users Group
>>> Information Technology Association of Ghana, National Secretariat
>>> Manager
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:24 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would Google Hang out work for everyone? If not I can provide the
>>>> virtual room but it might not be available for some participants around
>>>> the
>>>> world.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest the following agenda:
>>>>
>>>> 1. What are the most important Internet governance issues that civil
>>>> society should address throughout 2019.
>>>> 2. What is the best way to address them? [issuing joint statements,
>>>> issuing public comments, holding sessions etc, working with other
>>>> stakeholders)
>>>> 3. How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their functions
>>>> and hold them accountable?
>>>> 4. Merging BestBits and IGC?
>>>> 5. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
>>>> network.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 3:00 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to add 'Bestbits Steering Committee - elections..To have or
>>>>> not to have' on the agenda.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 07:35, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can see if we can use our Zoom account. @Bruna – will you create an
>>>>>> agenda, or should we do it collaboratively?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:56 AM Arsène Tungali <
>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Bruna, all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for starting this thread and thanks everyone for their
>>>>>>> contributions so far. My apologies as I can only join the discussion
>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is great that we have a scheduled meeting and i really look
>>>>>>> forward to it. I would encourage us all to contribute to the agenda
>>>>>>> setting
>>>>>>> and plan on joining the call. Unfortunately, I could not join you all
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> Paris and missed all different CS gatherings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to suggest an agenda item for the upcoming meeting :
>>>>>>> “Mapping of different existing initiatives and list civil society
>>>>>>> appointed
>>>>>>> representatives there. How can we better support them?”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The idea here is for us to start a google doc (before the meeting)
>>>>>>> where we list various initiatives/mechanisms such as the HLPDC, IGF
>>>>>>> MAG,
>>>>>>> etc and identify appointed CS representatives and then discuss how we
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> best support them, amplifying their voice and ensuring they receive
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> channel our contributions/inputs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> During the meeting on Dec 13, we can make sure we invite them to
>>>>>>> join
>>>>>>> the call and encourage at least one of them to share on the latest
>>>>>>> developments in their group and suggest ways the broader CS groups
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> support them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am happy to facilitate this item on the agenda if given the
>>>>>>> opportunity to do so and should we decide to have it on the meeting
>>>>>>> agenda.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Arsene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 05 Dec 2018, at 17:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance
>>>>>>> Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to all who answered to the poll and thread. I have just
>>>>>>> closed
>>>>>>> the poll and t*he selected date for the meeting is Dec 13th, at
>>>>>>> 16h00 UTC*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please feel free to suggest agenda items and If anyone would like to
>>>>>>> help facilitating the meeting, just let me know!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>> Bruna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em qua, 5 de dez de 2018 às 12:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've also filled out the doodle, thanks Bruna!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 15:17, Carolina Rossini <
>>>>>>>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need
>>>>>>>>>> for a Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few
>>>>>>>>>> opportunities
>>>>>>>>>> we had to meet while in Paris.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss
>>>>>>>>>> Civil Society participation and steps forward, as well as
>>>>>>>>>> identifying a CS
>>>>>>>>>> Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For that I have set up this doodle
>>>>>>>>>> <https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested time
>>>>>>>>>> slots on the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please
>>>>>>>>>> feel free to
>>>>>>>>>> suggest agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date
>>>>>>>>>> and time
>>>>>>>>>> of your preference - *and also to share it widely*.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>>>> @boomartins
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Carolina Rossini *
>>>>>>>>> + 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini
>>>>>>>>> PGP ID:  0xEC81015C
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>
>
> --
> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>
> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> @boomartins
>


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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Thu Dec 13 10:48:54 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 13:48:54 -0200
Subject: [governance] Civil Society Coordination Meeting
In-Reply-To: <000000000000d4d33f057cd55400@google.com>
References: <000000000000d4d33f057cd55400@google.com>
Message-ID: <CADAEEV3zRA7VgPb2uKCpDf9A1UMTXz0Y0C_vpVUN2LJQYjjfxA@mail.gmail.com>

Call starting in 10 min!

Em qua, 12 de dez de 2018 às 14:02, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:

> Dear all,
>
> Please find the google calendar invitation for our Civil Society
> Coordination meeting tomorrow at 16h00 utc.
>
>
> The agenda for this meeting is the following:
>
> Civil Society Coordination Meeting - Dec 13th, 16h00 UTC
>
> Agenda
> 1. 2018 in a nutshell: RightsCon, PP-18, IGF and FOC briefings.
> 2. Coordination for 2019:
> - Issues and forums that we should address as a stakeholder throughout
> 2019.
> - Best way to address them?[joint statements, public comments, holding
> sessions, working with other stakeholders, etc)
>
> 3. Representations and Groups:
> - Mapping of different existing initiatives and civil society appointed
> representatives: How can we better support them?
> - MAG: How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their functions
> and hold them accountable?
> - BestBits Steering Committee - elections..To have or not to have
> - Merging BestBits and IGC?
>
> 4. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society network.
> __________________
> Link to the google calendar:
> https://calendar.google.com/event?action=TEMPLATE&tmeid=XzhoMTZzazFrYnNzbXFzM2Y4bDk0dWNqYTZwMDVhZGFjZW9wbXNrYjhlMWNqY2hyMmExamcgYnJ1bmEubXJ0bnNAbQ&tmsrc=bruna.mrtns%40gmail.com
>
> Civil Society Coordination Meeting
>
> To join the meeting on a computer or mobile phone:
> https://bluejeans.com/929520616?src=calendarLink
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fbluejeans.com%2F929520616%3Fsrc%3DcalendarLink&sa=D&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNEQkxGNe9Quhh7JzZoOIibwpA94kw>
>
> Phone Dial-in
> +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
> +1.888.240.2560 (US Toll Free)
> +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
> Global Numbers: http://bluejeans.com/numbers
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fbluejeans.com%2Fnumbers&sa=D&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNG_lVdF7Zv0HurdYb_9OKFTfQLoqw>
>
> Meeting ID: 929 520 616
>
> Room System
> 199.48.152.152 or bjn.vc
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fbjn.vc&sa=D&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNHe3wj5EBNsU4tRGLiWHgqNQecvuQ>
>
> Meeting ID: 929 520 616
>
> Description:
> Internet Governance civil society coordination.
>
> Want to test your video connection?
> https://bluejeans.com/111
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fbluejeans.com%2F111&sa=D&usd=2&usg=AFQjCNEZbmrsBp6xwlwU3udpkOapECxaew>
>
> *Quando*
> qui 13 dez 2018 14:00 – 15:00 Horário de Brasília
>
> *Onde*
> https://bluejeans.com/929520616?src=calendarLink (mapa
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fbluejeans.com%2F929520616%3Fsrc%3DcalendarLink&sa=D&ust=1545062576651000&usg=AFQjCNEzXZafIwr2TM16aZEzICh02pO_AQ>
> )
>
> *Quem*
> •
> farzi at gatech.edu- organizador
> •
> Bruna Martins dos Santos- criador
>


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From judith at jhellerstein.com  Thu Dec 13 13:50:40 2018
From: judith at jhellerstein.com (Judith Hellerstein)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 13:50:40 -0500
Subject: [governance] Event Tomorrow--The role and impact of Civil Society
 at the ITU Plenipotentiary-
Message-ID: <d7e1a807-35f1-aa57-6249-a8f790498623@jhellerstein.com>

HI All

I was not able to make today's call but I just wanted to remind others that if 
you are in DC, please come to this Plenipot debrief which will focus on the role 
and impact of Civil Society at the ITU Plenipotentiary.  Featured speakers are 
Mehwish Ansari, Article 19; Deborah Brown, APC; Gus Rossi, Public Knowledge, 
Jane Coffin, the Internet Society, and myself Judith Hellerstein. As you can see 
we have a great line up of speakers.

The event is at New America, 740 15th St NW #900, and is tomorrow,  Friday from 
9-11am eastern. If coming in person, the RSVP link is here,

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/plenipot-2018-debrief-the-role-and-impact-of-civil-society-tickets-53453987315

if you are coming in person. If you are watching remotely, here is the link, 
https://livestream.com/internetsociety/pp18debrief.

Hope to see some of you there in person

Cheers,

Judith Hellerstein

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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Sun Dec 16 16:09:56 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 16:09:56 -0500
Subject: [governance] End of the year civil society meeting/ briefing
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvAZ5V+RWUs5gKzwGiht-3_hbQqLMkexfpG57DfR7q-+SQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

We had a good online meeting with up to 25 civil society members in
attendance on 13 December. I have the recording I can share with you. (I
have asked if sharing the recording was ok with the participants there was
no objection, but I give it a couple of more days before I share the
recording)

There was a brief overview of what was done during last year in venues such
as RightsCon etc.
The issues that were discussed (as much as I remember):

We also discussed the merge of IGC and BestBits. It was decided that the
co-coordinator of BB and IGC discuss and give a couple of weeks deadline to
come to a conclusion on whether a merge would be good.

the suggestion to merge comes from the fact that civil society IG
activities (especially at IGF) became fragmented. We need to pool our
resources and I think Jeremy mentioned that the reasons behind the creation
of BB are not around anymore. I believe we should make a decision on that
soon hopefully and start pooling our resources into one effort.

The idea of mapping initiatives and focal points:
To keep things going and be more active in 2019, it would be good to map
initiatives (Collin Kurre from Article 19 has good ideas about that)

I also suggested that we have focal points for each event or forum if we
want to for example organize a session or be more coordinated in our
efforts.

I volunteered to help IGC with coordination for  IGF 2019, and civil
society pre-event. I will also help IGC with drafting something a public
comment for IGF taking stock call.




Best




Farzaneh
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Sun Dec 16 17:09:21 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nadira Alaraj (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 00:09:21 +0200
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] End of the year civil society meeting/
 briefing
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvAZ5V+RWUs5gKzwGiht-3_hbQqLMkexfpG57DfR7q-+SQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvAZ5V+RWUs5gKzwGiht-3_hbQqLMkexfpG57DfR7q-+SQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJdpWNBs83hH0MWvFUG2REyrzd-yjP8nMtb9fLLtpWaYcwcoVg@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Farzaneh for your briefing.

I would like to comment on the merging consequences that it will affect the
structure of the
http://internetgov-cs.org or the CSCG. The objective of  "The CSCG has
co-operated with such bodies as international Telecomunication Union,
WSIS+10, UNDESA, Internet Governance Forum, CSTD Working Group on Enhanced
Cooperation, Netmundial Conference and Intiative and 1Net Initiative to
nominate a diverse range of civil society members as speakers and members
of committees and working groups"

I'm not sure if CSCG structure have been discussed or not. It would be good
to look into as well.
Best,
Nadira

On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 23:10 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> We had a good online meeting with up to 25 civil society members in
> attendance on 13 December. I have the recording I can share with you. (I
> have asked if sharing the recording was ok with the participants there was
> no objection, but I give it a couple of more days before I share the
> recording)
>
> There was a brief overview of what was done during last year in venues
> such as RightsCon etc.
> The issues that were discussed (as much as I remember):
>
> We also discussed the merge of IGC and BestBits. It was decided that the
> co-coordinator of BB and IGC discuss and give a couple of weeks deadline to
> come to a conclusion on whether a merge would be good.
>
> the suggestion to merge comes from the fact that civil society IG
> activities (especially at IGF) became fragmented. We need to pool our
> resources and I think Jeremy mentioned that the reasons behind the creation
> of BB are not around anymore. I believe we should make a decision on that
> soon hopefully and start pooling our resources into one effort.
>
> The idea of mapping initiatives and focal points:
> To keep things going and be more active in 2019, it would be good to map
> initiatives (Collin Kurre from Article 19 has good ideas about that)
>
> I also suggested that we have focal points for each event or forum if we
> want to for example organize a session or be more coordinated in our
> efforts.
>
> I volunteered to help IGC with coordination for  IGF 2019, and civil
> society pre-event. I will also help IGC with drafting something a public
> comment for IGF taking stock call.
>
>
>
>
> Best
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
> ____________________________________________________________
> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 03:33:48 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Michael J. Oghia" (via governance Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 09:33:48 +0100
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] End of the year civil society meeting/
 briefing
In-Reply-To: <CAJdpWNBs83hH0MWvFUG2REyrzd-yjP8nMtb9fLLtpWaYcwcoVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvAZ5V+RWUs5gKzwGiht-3_hbQqLMkexfpG57DfR7q-+SQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJdpWNBs83hH0MWvFUG2REyrzd-yjP8nMtb9fLLtpWaYcwcoVg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMCMt7rdeMENp=P8tWfTFTntjWpY+zo1mYCpR4KT_7L2jJCyUQ@mail.gmail.com>

He everyone,

Thank you for this summary Farzi. I think Nadira makes a good point about
looking into that. I'm it sure how each of these three organisations are
structured, but perhaps we should consider consolidation of all three (if
possible).

Best,
-Michael


On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 11:09 PM Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you Farzaneh for your briefing.
>
> I would like to comment on the merging consequences that it will affect
> the structure of the
> http://internetgov-cs.org or the CSCG. The objective of  "The CSCG has
> co-operated with such bodies as international Telecomunication Union,
> WSIS+10, UNDESA, Internet Governance Forum, CSTD Working Group on Enhanced
> Cooperation, Netmundial Conference and Intiative and 1Net Initiative to
> nominate a diverse range of civil society members as speakers and members
> of committees and working groups"
>
> I'm not sure if CSCG structure have been discussed or not. It would be
> good to look into as well.
> Best,
> Nadira
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 23:10 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> We had a good online meeting with up to 25 civil society members in
>> attendance on 13 December. I have the recording I can share with you. (I
>> have asked if sharing the recording was ok with the participants there was
>> no objection, but I give it a couple of more days before I share the
>> recording)
>>
>> There was a brief overview of what was done during last year in venues
>> such as RightsCon etc.
>> The issues that were discussed (as much as I remember):
>>
>> We also discussed the merge of IGC and BestBits. It was decided that the
>> co-coordinator of BB and IGC discuss and give a couple of weeks deadline to
>> come to a conclusion on whether a merge would be good.
>>
>> the suggestion to merge comes from the fact that civil society IG
>> activities (especially at IGF) became fragmented. We need to pool our
>> resources and I think Jeremy mentioned that the reasons behind the creation
>> of BB are not around anymore. I believe we should make a decision on that
>> soon hopefully and start pooling our resources into one effort.
>>
>> The idea of mapping initiatives and focal points:
>> To keep things going and be more active in 2019, it would be good to map
>> initiatives (Collin Kurre from Article 19 has good ideas about that)
>>
>> I also suggested that we have focal points for each event or forum if we
>> want to for example organize a session or be more coordinated in our
>> efforts.
>>
>> I volunteered to help IGC with coordination for  IGF 2019, and civil
>> society pre-event. I will also help IGC with drafting something a public
>> comment for IGF taking stock call.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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From anriette at apc.org  Mon Dec 17 07:30:06 2018
From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 14:30:06 +0200
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] End of the year civil society meeting/
 briefing
In-Reply-To: <CAMCMt7rdeMENp=P8tWfTFTntjWpY+zo1mYCpR4KT_7L2jJCyUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvAZ5V+RWUs5gKzwGiht-3_hbQqLMkexfpG57DfR7q-+SQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJdpWNBs83hH0MWvFUG2REyrzd-yjP8nMtb9fLLtpWaYcwcoVg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMCMt7rdeMENp=P8tWfTFTntjWpY+zo1mYCpR4KT_7L2jJCyUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4664e902-4086-8f3f-0d30-42ae9165a661@apc.org>

Thanks from me too for the summary Farzaneh. I am pleased that this is
happening.. thanks a lot to those who are making/made the effort. I look
forward to trying to be more active in this online space (hopefully best
bits and governance will merge).

Anriette

-----------------------------
Anriette Esterhuysen
Senior advisor on internet governance, policy advocacy and strategic planning
Association for Progressive Communications
apc.org
afrisig.org
anriette at apc.org

On 2018/12/17 10:33, Michael J. Oghia wrote:
> He everyone,
>
> Thank you for this summary Farzi. I think Nadira makes a good point
> about looking into that. I'm it sure how each of these three
> organisations are structured, but perhaps we should consider
> consolidation of all three (if possible). 
>
> Best,
> -Michael
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 11:09 PM Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com
> <mailto:nadira.araj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Thank you Farzaneh for your briefing.
>
>     I would like to comment on the merging consequences that it will
>     affect the structure of the 
>     http://internetgov-cs.org or the CSCG. The objective of  "The CSCG
>     has co-operated with such bodies as international Telecomunication
>     Union, WSIS+10, UNDESA, Internet Governance Forum, CSTD Working
>     Group on Enhanced Cooperation, Netmundial Conference and Intiative
>     and 1Net Initiative to nominate a diverse range of civil society
>     members as speakers and members of committees and working groups"
>
>     I'm not sure if CSCG structure have been discussed or not. It
>     would be good to look into as well.
>     Best,
>     Nadira 
>
>     On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 23:10 farzaneh badii
>     <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         Dear all,
>
>         We had a good online meeting with up to 25 civil society
>         members in attendance on 13 December. I have the recording I
>         can share with you. (I have asked if sharing the recording was
>         ok with the participants there was no objection, but I give it
>         a couple of more days before I share the recording)
>
>         There was a brief overview of what was done during last year
>         in venues such as RightsCon etc. 
>         The issues that were discussed (as much as I remember): 
>
>         We also discussed the merge of IGC and BestBits. It was
>         decided that the co-coordinator of BB and IGC discuss and give
>         a couple of weeks deadline to come to a conclusion on whether
>         a merge would be good. 
>
>         the suggestion to merge comes from the fact that civil society
>         IG activities (especially at IGF) became fragmented. We need
>         to pool our resources and I think Jeremy mentioned that the
>         reasons behind the creation of BB are not around anymore. I
>         believe we should make a decision on that soon hopefully and
>         start pooling our resources into one effort. 
>
>         The idea of mapping initiatives and focal points:
>         To keep things going and be more active in 2019, it would be
>         good to map initiatives (Collin Kurre from Article 19 has good
>         ideas about that)
>
>         I also suggested that we have focal points for each event or
>         forum if we want to for example organize a session or be more
>         coordinated in our efforts. 
>
>         I volunteered to help IGC with coordination for  IGF 2019, and
>         civil society pre-event. I will also help IGC with drafting
>         something a public comment for IGF taking stock call. 
>
>
>
>
>         Best 
>
>
>
>
>         Farzaneh
>         ____________________________________________________________
>         You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>              bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
>         <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>.
>         To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>              http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>
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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 14:50:40 +0200
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] End of the year civil society meeting/
 briefing
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Hi all,

Thanks Farzaneh for starting this thread and thanks everyone who took
the time to attend the call.

Thanks also for offering to give a hand of support with some task
within the IGC, we will take this discussion (as well as the one on
merging) to the IGC list soon for a more elaborate discussion.

And please do share the recording to give everyone an idea of what was
discussed.

I wanted to offer a quick reaction to Nadira and Michael's comments.

During the call, we did not discuss much about the CSCG which is a
coordination group where IGC is a member, alongside other members such
as APC, Just Net Coalition, Best Bits and the ICANN's NCSG.

About the merging question, this one will affect (if it happens), the
number of CSCG members but the CSCG itself cannot be merged with
anything (keeping this within the context). If BB and IGC merge, then
the CSCG will now have 4 members than 5.

R. Hill who is co chair of the CSCG said that once the merging
question is cleared, then only a discussion within CSCG's structure
and future will happen.

Bruna and I, as IGC co-cos agreed to start a discussion within the IGC
to explore the possibilities of merging IGC with BB.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Arsene

2018-12-17 10:33 UTC+02:00, "Michael J. Oghia" <governance at lists.riseup.net>:
> He everyone,
>
> Thank you for this summary Farzi. I think Nadira makes a good point about
> looking into that. I'm it sure how each of these three organisations are
> structured, but perhaps we should consider consolidation of all three (if
> possible).
>
> Best,
> -Michael
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 11:09 PM Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you Farzaneh for your briefing.
>>
>> I would like to comment on the merging consequences that it will affect
>> the structure of the
>> http://internetgov-cs.org or the CSCG. The objective of  "The CSCG has
>> co-operated with such bodies as international Telecomunication Union,
>> WSIS+10, UNDESA, Internet Governance Forum, CSTD Working Group on
>> Enhanced
>> Cooperation, Netmundial Conference and Intiative and 1Net Initiative to
>> nominate a diverse range of civil society members as speakers and members
>> of committees and working groups"
>>
>> I'm not sure if CSCG structure have been discussed or not. It would be
>> good to look into as well.
>> Best,
>> Nadira
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 23:10 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> We had a good online meeting with up to 25 civil society members in
>>> attendance on 13 December. I have the recording I can share with you. (I
>>> have asked if sharing the recording was ok with the participants there
>>> was
>>> no objection, but I give it a couple of more days before I share the
>>> recording)
>>>
>>> There was a brief overview of what was done during last year in venues
>>> such as RightsCon etc.
>>> The issues that were discussed (as much as I remember):
>>>
>>> We also discussed the merge of IGC and BestBits. It was decided that the
>>> co-coordinator of BB and IGC discuss and give a couple of weeks deadline
>>> to
>>> come to a conclusion on whether a merge would be good.
>>>
>>> the suggestion to merge comes from the fact that civil society IG
>>> activities (especially at IGF) became fragmented. We need to pool our
>>> resources and I think Jeremy mentioned that the reasons behind the
>>> creation
>>> of BB are not around anymore. I believe we should make a decision on
>>> that
>>> soon hopefully and start pooling our resources into one effort.
>>>
>>> The idea of mapping initiatives and focal points:
>>> To keep things going and be more active in 2019, it would be good to map
>>> initiatives (Collin Kurre from Article 19 has good ideas about that)
>>>
>>> I also suggested that we have focal points for each event or forum if we
>>> want to for example organize a session or be more coordinated in our
>>> efforts.
>>>
>>> I volunteered to help IGC with coordination for  IGF 2019, and civil
>>> society pre-event. I will also help IGC with drafting something a public
>>> comment for IGF taking stock call.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>
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------------------------
**Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
<http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
Tel: +243 993810967
GPG: 523644A0
*Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*

2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
<http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html>
(YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
<http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors>
& Mexico
<http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
- AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
<http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
<https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC Fellow (
Mauritius
<http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners>)*

From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 07:51:51 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Michael J. Oghia" (via governance Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 13:51:51 +0100
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] End of the year civil society meeting/
 briefing
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Hi Arsene,

That is exactly what I was hoping to learn. Thanks for sharing!

Best,
-Michael



On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 1:50 PM Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Thanks Farzaneh for starting this thread and thanks everyone who took
> the time to attend the call.
>
> Thanks also for offering to give a hand of support with some task
> within the IGC, we will take this discussion (as well as the one on
> merging) to the IGC list soon for a more elaborate discussion.
>
> And please do share the recording to give everyone an idea of what was
> discussed.
>
> I wanted to offer a quick reaction to Nadira and Michael's comments.
>
> During the call, we did not discuss much about the CSCG which is a
> coordination group where IGC is a member, alongside other members such
> as APC, Just Net Coalition, Best Bits and the ICANN's NCSG.
>
> About the merging question, this one will affect (if it happens), the
> number of CSCG members but the CSCG itself cannot be merged with
> anything (keeping this within the context). If BB and IGC merge, then
> the CSCG will now have 4 members than 5.
>
> R. Hill who is co chair of the CSCG said that once the merging
> question is cleared, then only a discussion within CSCG's structure
> and future will happen.
>
> Bruna and I, as IGC co-cos agreed to start a discussion within the IGC
> to explore the possibilities of merging IGC with BB.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
> Arsene
>
> 2018-12-17 10:33 UTC+02:00, "Michael J. Oghia" <
> governance at lists.riseup.net>:
> > He everyone,
> >
> > Thank you for this summary Farzi. I think Nadira makes a good point about
> > looking into that. I'm it sure how each of these three organisations are
> > structured, but perhaps we should consider consolidation of all three (if
> > possible).
> >
> > Best,
> > -Michael
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 11:09 PM Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com
> wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you Farzaneh for your briefing.
> >>
> >> I would like to comment on the merging consequences that it will affect
> >> the structure of the
> >> http://internetgov-cs.org or the CSCG. The objective of  "The CSCG has
> >> co-operated with such bodies as international Telecomunication Union,
> >> WSIS+10, UNDESA, Internet Governance Forum, CSTD Working Group on
> >> Enhanced
> >> Cooperation, Netmundial Conference and Intiative and 1Net Initiative to
> >> nominate a diverse range of civil society members as speakers and
> members
> >> of committees and working groups"
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if CSCG structure have been discussed or not. It would be
> >> good to look into as well.
> >> Best,
> >> Nadira
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 23:10 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> We had a good online meeting with up to 25 civil society members in
> >>> attendance on 13 December. I have the recording I can share with you.
> (I
> >>> have asked if sharing the recording was ok with the participants there
> >>> was
> >>> no objection, but I give it a couple of more days before I share the
> >>> recording)
> >>>
> >>> There was a brief overview of what was done during last year in venues
> >>> such as RightsCon etc.
> >>> The issues that were discussed (as much as I remember):
> >>>
> >>> We also discussed the merge of IGC and BestBits. It was decided that
> the
> >>> co-coordinator of BB and IGC discuss and give a couple of weeks
> deadline
> >>> to
> >>> come to a conclusion on whether a merge would be good.
> >>>
> >>> the suggestion to merge comes from the fact that civil society IG
> >>> activities (especially at IGF) became fragmented. We need to pool our
> >>> resources and I think Jeremy mentioned that the reasons behind the
> >>> creation
> >>> of BB are not around anymore. I believe we should make a decision on
> >>> that
> >>> soon hopefully and start pooling our resources into one effort.
> >>>
> >>> The idea of mapping initiatives and focal points:
> >>> To keep things going and be more active in 2019, it would be good to
> map
> >>> initiatives (Collin Kurre from Article 19 has good ideas about that)
> >>>
> >>> I also suggested that we have focal points for each event or forum if
> we
> >>> want to for example organize a session or be more coordinated in our
> >>> efforts.
> >>>
> >>> I volunteered to help IGC with coordination for  IGF 2019, and civil
> >>> society pre-event. I will also help IGC with drafting something a
> public
> >>> comment for IGF taking stock call.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Farzaneh
> >>> ____________________________________________________________
> >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
> >>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
> >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
> >>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________________
> >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
> >>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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> >
>
>
> --
> ------------------------
> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
> Tel: +243 993810967
> GPG: 523644A0
> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>
> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
> <
> http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html
> >
> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
> <
> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors
> >
> & Mexico
> <
> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors
> >)
> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC Fellow
> (
> Mauritius
> <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners
> >)*
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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Michael J. Oghia" (via governance Mailing List)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 08:34:46 +0100
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting -
 thinking 2019 ahead.
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Hi everyone,

I can see if we can use our Zoom account. @Bruna – will you create an
agenda, or should we do it collaboratively?

Best,
-Michael



On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:56 AM Arsène Tungali <governance at lists.riseup.net>
wrote:

> Hi Bruna, all
>
> Thanks for starting this thread and thanks everyone for their
> contributions so far. My apologies as I can only join the discussion now.
>
> It is great that we have a scheduled meeting and i really look forward to
> it. I would encourage us all to contribute to the agenda setting and plan
> on joining the call. Unfortunately, I could not join you all in Paris and
> missed all different CS gatherings.
>
> I would like to suggest an agenda item for the upcoming meeting : “Mapping
> of different existing initiatives and list civil society appointed
> representatives there. How can we better support them?”
>
> The idea here is for us to start a google doc (before the meeting) where
> we list various initiatives/mechanisms such as the HLPDC, IGF MAG, etc and
> identify appointed CS representatives and then discuss how we can best
> support them, amplifying their voice and ensuring they receive and channel
> our contributions/inputs.
>
> During the meeting on Dec 13, we can make sure we invite them to join the
> call and encourage at least one of them to share on the latest developments
> in their group and suggest ways the broader CS groups can support them.
>
> I am happy to facilitate this item on the agenda if given the opportunity
> to do so and should we decide to have it on the meeting agenda.
>
> Regards,
> Arsene
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 05 Dec 2018, at 17:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing
> List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Thanks to all who answered to the poll and thread. I have just closed the
> poll and t*he selected date for the meeting is Dec 13th, at 16h00 UTC*.
>
> Please feel free to suggest agenda items and If anyone would like to help
> facilitating the meeting, just let me know!
>
> best,
> Bruna
>
> Em qua, 5 de dez de 2018 às 12:58, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> escreveu:
>
>> I've also filled out the doodle, thanks Bruna!
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 15:17, Carolina Rossini <
>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need for a
>>>> Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few opportunities we had
>>>> to meet while in Paris.
>>>>
>>>> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss Civil
>>>> Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS
>>>> Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a
>>>> possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>>>>
>>>> For that I have set up this doodle
>>>> <https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested time slots
>>>> on the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel free to
>>>> suggest agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date and time
>>>> of your preference - *and also to share it widely*.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> --
>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>
>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>> @boomartins
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
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>>> + 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini
>>> PGP ID:  0xEC81015C
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nadira Alaraj (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 15:47:04 +0200
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] End of the year civil society meeting/
 briefing
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Thank you Arsene for your follow up on the CSCG,
Yes, the number of CS groups will be reduced to 4 if the merge will happens.
However, I  would like to bring to your attention that during my role at
the CSCG, Ian Peter was chairing a committee that we worked to introduce a
procedures for New CSCG member.
http://internetgov-cs.org/procedures#C

There would be possibility to add a new global CS as the 5th members and
that could be IG for Youth.
I'm not sure how organized the youth group would be and if it satisfies the
thoroughly discussed procedure for new member.
Best,
Nadira



On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 14:50 Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Thanks Farzaneh for starting this thread and thanks everyone who took
> the time to attend the call.
>
> Thanks also for offering to give a hand of support with some task
> within the IGC, we will take this discussion (as well as the one on
> merging) to the IGC list soon for a more elaborate discussion.
>
> And please do share the recording to give everyone an idea of what was
> discussed.
>
> I wanted to offer a quick reaction to Nadira and Michael's comments.
>
> During the call, we did not discuss much about the CSCG which is a
> coordination group where IGC is a member, alongside other members such
> as APC, Just Net Coalition, Best Bits and the ICANN's NCSG.
>
> About the merging question, this one will affect (if it happens), the
> number of CSCG members but the CSCG itself cannot be merged with
> anything (keeping this within the context). If BB and IGC merge, then
> the CSCG will now have 4 members than 5.
>
> R. Hill who is co chair of the CSCG said that once the merging
> question is cleared, then only a discussion within CSCG's structure
> and future will happen.
>
> Bruna and I, as IGC co-cos agreed to start a discussion within the IGC
> to explore the possibilities of merging IGC with BB.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
> Arsene
>
> 2018-12-17 10:33 UTC+02:00, "Michael J. Oghia" <
> governance at lists.riseup.net>:
> > He everyone,
> >
> > Thank you for this summary Farzi. I think Nadira makes a good point about
> > looking into that. I'm it sure how each of these three organisations are
> > structured, but perhaps we should consider consolidation of all three (if
> > possible).
> >
> > Best,
> > -Michael
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 11:09 PM Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com
> wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you Farzaneh for your briefing.
> >>
> >> I would like to comment on the merging consequences that it will affect
> >> the structure of the
> >> http://internetgov-cs.org or the CSCG. The objective of  "The CSCG has
> >> co-operated with such bodies as international Telecomunication Union,
> >> WSIS+10, UNDESA, Internet Governance Forum, CSTD Working Group on
> >> Enhanced
> >> Cooperation, Netmundial Conference and Intiative and 1Net Initiative to
> >> nominate a diverse range of civil society members as speakers and
> members
> >> of committees and working groups"
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if CSCG structure have been discussed or not. It would be
> >> good to look into as well.
> >> Best,
> >> Nadira
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 23:10 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> We had a good online meeting with up to 25 civil society members in
> >>> attendance on 13 December. I have the recording I can share with you.
> (I
> >>> have asked if sharing the recording was ok with the participants there
> >>> was
> >>> no objection, but I give it a couple of more days before I share the
> >>> recording)
> >>>
> >>> There was a brief overview of what was done during last year in venues
> >>> such as RightsCon etc.
> >>> The issues that were discussed (as much as I remember):
> >>>
> >>> We also discussed the merge of IGC and BestBits. It was decided that
> the
> >>> co-coordinator of BB and IGC discuss and give a couple of weeks
> deadline
> >>> to
> >>> come to a conclusion on whether a merge would be good.
> >>>
> >>> the suggestion to merge comes from the fact that civil society IG
> >>> activities (especially at IGF) became fragmented. We need to pool our
> >>> resources and I think Jeremy mentioned that the reasons behind the
> >>> creation
> >>> of BB are not around anymore. I believe we should make a decision on
> >>> that
> >>> soon hopefully and start pooling our resources into one effort.
> >>>
> >>> The idea of mapping initiatives and focal points:
> >>> To keep things going and be more active in 2019, it would be good to
> map
> >>> initiatives (Collin Kurre from Article 19 has good ideas about that)
> >>>
> >>> I also suggested that we have focal points for each event or forum if
> we
> >>> want to for example organize a session or be more coordinated in our
> >>> efforts.
> >>>
> >>> I volunteered to help IGC with coordination for  IGF 2019, and civil
> >>> society pre-event. I will also help IGC with drafting something a
> public
> >>> comment for IGF taking stock call.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Farzaneh
> >>> ____________________________________________________________
> >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
> >>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
> >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
> >>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________________
> >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
> >>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
> >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
> >>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
> >
>
>
> --
> ------------------------
> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
> Tel: +243 993810967
> GPG: 523644A0
> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>
> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
> <
> http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html
> >
> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
> <
> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors
> >
> & Mexico
> <
> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors
> >)
> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC Fellow
> (
> Mauritius
> <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners
> >)*
>
>
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 08:59:50 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne?= Tungali (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 15:59:50 +0200
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
Message-ID: <CABDXvWpbTA5uGVjW18sTntZt7yyEgF=Dvu-L-RBiVmxATrctfQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
hear from you on this important question.

This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.

I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
group where members of both groups will all be added?

This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
(SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).

I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
them what they think?

During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by mid-January
and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season. We will then
report to the group.

I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.

Best regards,
Arsene

From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 09:02:12 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne?= Tungali (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 16:02:12 +0200
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] End of the year civil society meeting/
 briefing
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This will be a discussion to happen at the CSCG level on the necessity
or the opportunity to bring in new CS groups, which i personally
welcome as a great idea.

The CSCG ought to be inclusive of all the major civil society groups.

2018-12-17 15:47 UTC+02:00, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com>:
> Thank you Arsene for your follow up on the CSCG,
> Yes, the number of CS groups will be reduced to 4 if the merge will
> happens.
> However, I  would like to bring to your attention that during my role at
> the CSCG, Ian Peter was chairing a committee that we worked to introduce a
> procedures for New CSCG member.
> http://internetgov-cs.org/procedures#C
>
> There would be possibility to add a new global CS as the 5th members and
> that could be IG for Youth.
> I'm not sure how organized the youth group would be and if it satisfies the
> thoroughly discussed procedure for new member.
> Best,
> Nadira
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 14:50 Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thanks Farzaneh for starting this thread and thanks everyone who took
>> the time to attend the call.
>>
>> Thanks also for offering to give a hand of support with some task
>> within the IGC, we will take this discussion (as well as the one on
>> merging) to the IGC list soon for a more elaborate discussion.
>>
>> And please do share the recording to give everyone an idea of what was
>> discussed.
>>
>> I wanted to offer a quick reaction to Nadira and Michael's comments.
>>
>> During the call, we did not discuss much about the CSCG which is a
>> coordination group where IGC is a member, alongside other members such
>> as APC, Just Net Coalition, Best Bits and the ICANN's NCSG.
>>
>> About the merging question, this one will affect (if it happens), the
>> number of CSCG members but the CSCG itself cannot be merged with
>> anything (keeping this within the context). If BB and IGC merge, then
>> the CSCG will now have 4 members than 5.
>>
>> R. Hill who is co chair of the CSCG said that once the merging
>> question is cleared, then only a discussion within CSCG's structure
>> and future will happen.
>>
>> Bruna and I, as IGC co-cos agreed to start a discussion within the IGC
>> to explore the possibilities of merging IGC with BB.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Arsene
>>
>> 2018-12-17 10:33 UTC+02:00, "Michael J. Oghia" <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net>:
>> > He everyone,
>> >
>> > Thank you for this summary Farzi. I think Nadira makes a good point
>> > about
>> > looking into that. I'm it sure how each of these three organisations
>> > are
>> > structured, but perhaps we should consider consolidation of all three
>> > (if
>> > possible).
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > -Michael
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 11:09 PM Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thank you Farzaneh for your briefing.
>> >>
>> >> I would like to comment on the merging consequences that it will
>> >> affect
>> >> the structure of the
>> >> http://internetgov-cs.org or the CSCG. The objective of  "The CSCG has
>> >> co-operated with such bodies as international Telecomunication Union,
>> >> WSIS+10, UNDESA, Internet Governance Forum, CSTD Working Group on
>> >> Enhanced
>> >> Cooperation, Netmundial Conference and Intiative and 1Net Initiative
>> >> to
>> >> nominate a diverse range of civil society members as speakers and
>> members
>> >> of committees and working groups"
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure if CSCG structure have been discussed or not. It would be
>> >> good to look into as well.
>> >> Best,
>> >> Nadira
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 23:10 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Dear all,
>> >>>
>> >>> We had a good online meeting with up to 25 civil society members in
>> >>> attendance on 13 December. I have the recording I can share with you.
>> (I
>> >>> have asked if sharing the recording was ok with the participants
>> >>> there
>> >>> was
>> >>> no objection, but I give it a couple of more days before I share the
>> >>> recording)
>> >>>
>> >>> There was a brief overview of what was done during last year in
>> >>> venues
>> >>> such as RightsCon etc.
>> >>> The issues that were discussed (as much as I remember):
>> >>>
>> >>> We also discussed the merge of IGC and BestBits. It was decided that
>> the
>> >>> co-coordinator of BB and IGC discuss and give a couple of weeks
>> deadline
>> >>> to
>> >>> come to a conclusion on whether a merge would be good.
>> >>>
>> >>> the suggestion to merge comes from the fact that civil society IG
>> >>> activities (especially at IGF) became fragmented. We need to pool our
>> >>> resources and I think Jeremy mentioned that the reasons behind the
>> >>> creation
>> >>> of BB are not around anymore. I believe we should make a decision on
>> >>> that
>> >>> soon hopefully and start pooling our resources into one effort.
>> >>>
>> >>> The idea of mapping initiatives and focal points:
>> >>> To keep things going and be more active in 2019, it would be good to
>> map
>> >>> initiatives (Collin Kurre from Article 19 has good ideas about that)
>> >>>
>> >>> I also suggested that we have focal points for each event or forum if
>> we
>> >>> want to for example organize a session or be more coordinated in our
>> >>> efforts.
>> >>>
>> >>> I volunteered to help IGC with coordination for  IGF 2019, and civil
>> >>> society pre-event. I will also help IGC with drafting something a
>> public
>> >>> comment for IGF taking stock call.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Best
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Farzaneh
>> >>> ____________________________________________________________
>> >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>> >>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>> >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>> >>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>> >>
>> >> ____________________________________________________________
>> >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>> >>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>> >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>> >>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> ------------------------
>> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
>> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
>> Tel: +243 993810967
>> GPG: 523644A0
>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>>
>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>> <
>> http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html
>> >
>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>> <
>> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors
>> >
>> & Mexico
>> <
>> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors
>> >)
>> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
>> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC Fellow
>> (
>> Mauritius
>> <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners
>> >)*
>>
>>
>


-- 
------------------------
**Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
<http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
Tel: +243 993810967
GPG: 523644A0
*Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*

2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
<http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html>
(YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
<http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors>
& Mexico
<http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
- AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
<http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
<https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC Fellow (
Mauritius
<http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners>)*

From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 09:09:50 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 12:09:50 -0200
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] End of the year civil society meeting/
 briefing
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Dear all,

Thanks @farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> for kickstarting the
discussion and @Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> for clarifying the
doubts about the CSCG.

Before we decide on which group is joining CSCG, I believe its important
for us to stick to what was agreed on the call  which was: CSCG
representation discussion would only be done once we decided on the IGC/BB
merger.

I personally believe that the decision of welcoming an specific group to
CSCG is a rather complicated one and would need to be thoroughly discussed
within all the groups represented at CSCG, not only best bits and IGC.

best,
bruna

Em seg, 17 de dez de 2018 às 12:02, Arsène Tungali <
governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:

> This will be a discussion to happen at the CSCG level on the necessity
> or the opportunity to bring in new CS groups, which i personally
> welcome as a great idea.
>
> The CSCG ought to be inclusive of all the major civil society groups.
>
> 2018-12-17 15:47 UTC+02:00, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com>:
> > Thank you Arsene for your follow up on the CSCG,
> > Yes, the number of CS groups will be reduced to 4 if the merge will
> > happens.
> > However, I  would like to bring to your attention that during my role at
> > the CSCG, Ian Peter was chairing a committee that we worked to introduce
> a
> > procedures for New CSCG member.
> > http://internetgov-cs.org/procedures#C
> >
> > There would be possibility to add a new global CS as the 5th members and
> > that could be IG for Youth.
> > I'm not sure how organized the youth group would be and if it satisfies
> the
> > thoroughly discussed procedure for new member.
> > Best,
> > Nadira
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 14:50 Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Thanks Farzaneh for starting this thread and thanks everyone who took
> >> the time to attend the call.
> >>
> >> Thanks also for offering to give a hand of support with some task
> >> within the IGC, we will take this discussion (as well as the one on
> >> merging) to the IGC list soon for a more elaborate discussion.
> >>
> >> And please do share the recording to give everyone an idea of what was
> >> discussed.
> >>
> >> I wanted to offer a quick reaction to Nadira and Michael's comments.
> >>
> >> During the call, we did not discuss much about the CSCG which is a
> >> coordination group where IGC is a member, alongside other members such
> >> as APC, Just Net Coalition, Best Bits and the ICANN's NCSG.
> >>
> >> About the merging question, this one will affect (if it happens), the
> >> number of CSCG members but the CSCG itself cannot be merged with
> >> anything (keeping this within the context). If BB and IGC merge, then
> >> the CSCG will now have 4 members than 5.
> >>
> >> R. Hill who is co chair of the CSCG said that once the merging
> >> question is cleared, then only a discussion within CSCG's structure
> >> and future will happen.
> >>
> >> Bruna and I, as IGC co-cos agreed to start a discussion within the IGC
> >> to explore the possibilities of merging IGC with BB.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Arsene
> >>
> >> 2018-12-17 10:33 UTC+02:00, "Michael J. Oghia" <
> >> governance at lists.riseup.net>:
> >> > He everyone,
> >> >
> >> > Thank you for this summary Farzi. I think Nadira makes a good point
> >> > about
> >> > looking into that. I'm it sure how each of these three organisations
> >> > are
> >> > structured, but perhaps we should consider consolidation of all three
> >> > (if
> >> > possible).
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > -Michael
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 11:09 PM Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thank you Farzaneh for your briefing.
> >> >>
> >> >> I would like to comment on the merging consequences that it will
> >> >> affect
> >> >> the structure of the
> >> >> http://internetgov-cs.org or the CSCG. The objective of  "The CSCG
> has
> >> >> co-operated with such bodies as international Telecomunication Union,
> >> >> WSIS+10, UNDESA, Internet Governance Forum, CSTD Working Group on
> >> >> Enhanced
> >> >> Cooperation, Netmundial Conference and Intiative and 1Net Initiative
> >> >> to
> >> >> nominate a diverse range of civil society members as speakers and
> >> members
> >> >> of committees and working groups"
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not sure if CSCG structure have been discussed or not. It would
> be
> >> >> good to look into as well.
> >> >> Best,
> >> >> Nadira
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 23:10 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Dear all,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We had a good online meeting with up to 25 civil society members in
> >> >>> attendance on 13 December. I have the recording I can share with
> you.
> >> (I
> >> >>> have asked if sharing the recording was ok with the participants
> >> >>> there
> >> >>> was
> >> >>> no objection, but I give it a couple of more days before I share the
> >> >>> recording)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> There was a brief overview of what was done during last year in
> >> >>> venues
> >> >>> such as RightsCon etc.
> >> >>> The issues that were discussed (as much as I remember):
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We also discussed the merge of IGC and BestBits. It was decided that
> >> the
> >> >>> co-coordinator of BB and IGC discuss and give a couple of weeks
> >> deadline
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> come to a conclusion on whether a merge would be good.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> the suggestion to merge comes from the fact that civil society IG
> >> >>> activities (especially at IGF) became fragmented. We need to pool
> our
> >> >>> resources and I think Jeremy mentioned that the reasons behind the
> >> >>> creation
> >> >>> of BB are not around anymore. I believe we should make a decision on
> >> >>> that
> >> >>> soon hopefully and start pooling our resources into one effort.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The idea of mapping initiatives and focal points:
> >> >>> To keep things going and be more active in 2019, it would be good to
> >> map
> >> >>> initiatives (Collin Kurre from Article 19 has good ideas about that)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I also suggested that we have focal points for each event or forum
> if
> >> we
> >> >>> want to for example organize a session or be more coordinated in our
> >> >>> efforts.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I volunteered to help IGC with coordination for  IGF 2019, and civil
> >> >>> society pre-event. I will also help IGC with drafting something a
> >> public
> >> >>> comment for IGF taking stock call.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Best
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Farzaneh
> >> >>> ____________________________________________________________
> >> >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
> >> >>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
> >> >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
> >> >>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
> >> >>
> >> >> ____________________________________________________________
> >> >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
> >> >>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
> >> >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
> >> >>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ------------------------
> >> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
> >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
> >> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
> >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
> >> Tel: +243 993810967
> >> GPG: 523644A0
> >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
> >>
> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
> >> <
> >>
> http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html
> >> >
> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
> >> <
> >>
> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors
> >> >
> >> & Mexico
> >> <
> >>
> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors
> >> >)
> >> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> -
> Blogger
> >> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
> >> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC
> Fellow
> >> (
> >> Mauritius
> >> <
> http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners
> >> >)*
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> ------------------------
> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
> Tel: +243 993810967
> GPG: 523644A0
> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>
> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
> <
> http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html
> >
> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
> <
> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors
> >
> & Mexico
> <
> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors
> >)
> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC Fellow
> (
> Mauritius
> <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners
> >)*
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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nadira Alaraj (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 16:26:43 +0200
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] End of the year civil society meeting/
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Exactly Bruna, as Arsene has written if a merger BB/IGC happened then at
the CSCG level the new members will discuss to be more inclusive and
receptive to new members.

The reason I'm mentioning it because I don't want the CS misses the
discussion on this issue. I'm in support the inclusion of new CS coalition
that could also be regional coalition and I suggested  the  IGF youth as an
example.
Nothing difficult when there is a well.


On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 16:10 Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Thanks @farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> for kickstarting the
> discussion and @Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> for clarifying
> the doubts about the CSCG.
>
> Before we decide on which group is joining CSCG, I believe its important
> for us to stick to what was agreed on the call  which was: CSCG
> representation discussion would only be done once we decided on the IGC/BB
> merger.
>
> I personally believe that the decision of welcoming an specific group to
> CSCG is a rather complicated one and would need to be thoroughly discussed
> within all the groups represented at CSCG, not only best bits and IGC.
>
> best,
> bruna
>
> Em seg, 17 de dez de 2018 às 12:02, Arsène Tungali <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:
>
>> This will be a discussion to happen at the CSCG level on the necessity
>> or the opportunity to bring in new CS groups, which i personally
>> welcome as a great idea.
>>
>> The CSCG ought to be inclusive of all the major civil society groups.
>>
>> 2018-12-17 15:47 UTC+02:00, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com>:
>> > Thank you Arsene for your follow up on the CSCG,
>> > Yes, the number of CS groups will be reduced to 4 if the merge will
>> > happens.
>> > However, I  would like to bring to your attention that during my role at
>> > the CSCG, Ian Peter was chairing a committee that we worked to
>> introduce a
>> > procedures for New CSCG member.
>> > http://internetgov-cs.org/procedures#C
>> >
>> > There would be possibility to add a new global CS as the 5th members and
>> > that could be IG for Youth.
>> > I'm not sure how organized the youth group would be and if it satisfies
>> the
>> > thoroughly discussed procedure for new member.
>> > Best,
>> > Nadira
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 14:50 Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Farzaneh for starting this thread and thanks everyone who took
>> >> the time to attend the call.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks also for offering to give a hand of support with some task
>> >> within the IGC, we will take this discussion (as well as the one on
>> >> merging) to the IGC list soon for a more elaborate discussion.
>> >>
>> >> And please do share the recording to give everyone an idea of what was
>> >> discussed.
>> >>
>> >> I wanted to offer a quick reaction to Nadira and Michael's comments.
>> >>
>> >> During the call, we did not discuss much about the CSCG which is a
>> >> coordination group where IGC is a member, alongside other members such
>> >> as APC, Just Net Coalition, Best Bits and the ICANN's NCSG.
>> >>
>> >> About the merging question, this one will affect (if it happens), the
>> >> number of CSCG members but the CSCG itself cannot be merged with
>> >> anything (keeping this within the context). If BB and IGC merge, then
>> >> the CSCG will now have 4 members than 5.
>> >>
>> >> R. Hill who is co chair of the CSCG said that once the merging
>> >> question is cleared, then only a discussion within CSCG's structure
>> >> and future will happen.
>> >>
>> >> Bruna and I, as IGC co-cos agreed to start a discussion within the IGC
>> >> to explore the possibilities of merging IGC with BB.
>> >>
>> >> Hope this helps.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Arsene
>> >>
>> >> 2018-12-17 10:33 UTC+02:00, "Michael J. Oghia" <
>> >> governance at lists.riseup.net>:
>> >> > He everyone,
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you for this summary Farzi. I think Nadira makes a good point
>> >> > about
>> >> > looking into that. I'm it sure how each of these three organisations
>> >> > are
>> >> > structured, but perhaps we should consider consolidation of all three
>> >> > (if
>> >> > possible).
>> >> >
>> >> > Best,
>> >> > -Michael
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 11:09 PM Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Thank you Farzaneh for your briefing.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would like to comment on the merging consequences that it will
>> >> >> affect
>> >> >> the structure of the
>> >> >> http://internetgov-cs.org or the CSCG. The objective of  "The CSCG
>> has
>> >> >> co-operated with such bodies as international Telecomunication
>> Union,
>> >> >> WSIS+10, UNDESA, Internet Governance Forum, CSTD Working Group on
>> >> >> Enhanced
>> >> >> Cooperation, Netmundial Conference and Intiative and 1Net Initiative
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> nominate a diverse range of civil society members as speakers and
>> >> members
>> >> >> of committees and working groups"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm not sure if CSCG structure have been discussed or not. It would
>> be
>> >> >> good to look into as well.
>> >> >> Best,
>> >> >> Nadira
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 23:10 farzaneh badii <
>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Dear all,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> We had a good online meeting with up to 25 civil society members in
>> >> >>> attendance on 13 December. I have the recording I can share with
>> you.
>> >> (I
>> >> >>> have asked if sharing the recording was ok with the participants
>> >> >>> there
>> >> >>> was
>> >> >>> no objection, but I give it a couple of more days before I share
>> the
>> >> >>> recording)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> There was a brief overview of what was done during last year in
>> >> >>> venues
>> >> >>> such as RightsCon etc.
>> >> >>> The issues that were discussed (as much as I remember):
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> We also discussed the merge of IGC and BestBits. It was decided
>> that
>> >> the
>> >> >>> co-coordinator of BB and IGC discuss and give a couple of weeks
>> >> deadline
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> come to a conclusion on whether a merge would be good.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> the suggestion to merge comes from the fact that civil society IG
>> >> >>> activities (especially at IGF) became fragmented. We need to pool
>> our
>> >> >>> resources and I think Jeremy mentioned that the reasons behind the
>> >> >>> creation
>> >> >>> of BB are not around anymore. I believe we should make a decision
>> on
>> >> >>> that
>> >> >>> soon hopefully and start pooling our resources into one effort.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The idea of mapping initiatives and focal points:
>> >> >>> To keep things going and be more active in 2019, it would be good
>> to
>> >> map
>> >> >>> initiatives (Collin Kurre from Article 19 has good ideas about
>> that)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I also suggested that we have focal points for each event or forum
>> if
>> >> we
>> >> >>> want to for example organize a session or be more coordinated in
>> our
>> >> >>> efforts.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I volunteered to help IGC with coordination for  IGF 2019, and
>> civil
>> >> >>> society pre-event. I will also help IGC with drafting something a
>> >> public
>> >> >>> comment for IGF taking stock call.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Best
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Farzaneh
>> >> >>> ____________________________________________________________
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>> >> >>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>> >> >>
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> ------------------------
>> >> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
>> >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
>> >> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
>> >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
>> >> Tel: +243 993810967
>> >> GPG: 523644A0
>> >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>> >>
>> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>> >> <
>> >>
>> http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html
>> >> >
>> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>> >> <
>> >>
>> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors
>> >> >
>> >> & Mexico
>> >> <
>> >>
>> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors
>> >> >)
>> >> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> -
>> Blogger
>> >> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
>> >> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC
>> Fellow
>> >> (
>> >> Mauritius
>> >> <
>> http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners
>> >> >)*
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> ------------------------
>> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
>> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
>> Tel: +243 993810967
>> GPG: 523644A0
>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>>
>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>> <
>> http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html
>> >
>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>> <
>> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors
>> >
>> & Mexico
>> <
>> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors
>> >)
>> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
>> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC
>> Fellow (
>> Mauritius
>> <
>> http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners
>> >)*
>> ---
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>
>
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>
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 10:23:33 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nadira Alaraj (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 17:23:33 +0200
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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Dear Arsene,
Thank you very much for bringing the issue of merging the 2 CS groups into
one list.
I would suggest to start by proposing a merge of the mission statements
between the two groups.
Then members or working group from both IGC/BB  work to develop a proposed
draft of mission statement to the joint group.
Circulate this draft for comments at the two mailing lists.
Compile the comments by editing the proposed draft mission statement. Then
circulated again.
You will keep developing the draft and going into rounds until you get no
comments or no objection.  Then at that time it be considered a consensus
agreement of the new mission for the merged groups.
This is my 2 cents of thought
Best
Nadira


On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 16:00 Arsène Tungali <governance at lists.riseup.net
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
> it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
> Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
> hear from you on this important question.
>
> This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
> society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
> whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
> week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
>
> I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
> anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
> should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
> how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
> BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
> group where members of both groups will all be added?
>
> This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
> (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
> hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
> share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
> the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
>
> I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
> this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
> consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
> them what they think?
>
> During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by mid-January
> and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season. We will then
> report to the group.
>
> I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
> discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
>
> Best regards,
> Arsene
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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Deirdre Williams (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 12:50:40 -0400
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] End of the year civil society meeting/
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Dear All,
I was at Friday's meeting and have been following the discussions.
A few points:
1. Are discussion spaces like Internet Governance Caucus/Bestbits still
relevant? I ask because they have fallen very silent over the last year.
This question needs an answer.
2. Civil Society Coordination Group addresses the issue of civil society
representation in internet governance spaces. Internet governance has
become a very broad issue. There are powerful links with other areas of
concern for civil society - climate change, migration, child protection
etc. - and information and communication technologies are often the tools
used by civil society to carry out its business in these areas. How then is
civil society to be brought together to oversee its own interests? Or is
"civil society" only in this case those concerned narrowly with "internet
governance"?
3. "Civil society" is a very diverse creature. Because of this diversity it
is crucial to identify the common values on the foundation of which we can
come together to harness our communal strength to achieve objectives. This
is why it is desirable for us to revisit the 2003 Civil Society
Declaration
https://www.itu.int/net/wsis/docs/geneva/civil-society-declaration.pdf  As
far as I know this is the last time that civil society came together, in
the area that is relevant to this discussion, to make a joint statement of
values and intentions. Using the declaration for comparison - are the
values and intentions still the same?
4. Back at the end of November Sivasubramanian started this discussion.
When I replied then that "... we have been divided (or have divided
ourselves) into subsets of the general issue so there is no longer any
"community of energy"", Siva's response was "If there was an disagreement
between CS participants once or twice, on one or more issues, should we
characterize it as a division?" I think we should all ask ourselves about
this.
5. (Finally) In little Saint Lucia (pop 174,000) where I live we now have
at least 5 organisations concerned with history/culture/heritage which have
evolved from a single originator. It is beginning to be recognised that
this fragmentation impedes collaboration. I'm asking myself if this isn't a
local instance of a global situation - think for example of recent mass
action in France.
Over to you.
Whatever you celebrate or don't celebrate at this time of the year, I hope
it will be a period of peace, harmony and happiness for all of us.
Deirdre
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 10:27, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com> wrote:

> Exactly Bruna, as Arsene has written if a merger BB/IGC happened then at
> the CSCG level the new members will discuss to be more inclusive and
> receptive to new members.
>
> The reason I'm mentioning it because I don't want the CS misses the
> discussion on this issue. I'm in support the inclusion of new CS coalition
> that could also be regional coalition and I suggested  the  IGF youth as an
> example.
> Nothing difficult when there is a well.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 16:10 Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Thanks @farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> for kickstarting the
>> discussion and @Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> for clarifying
>> the doubts about the CSCG.
>>
>> Before we decide on which group is joining CSCG, I believe its important
>> for us to stick to what was agreed on the call  which was: CSCG
>> representation discussion would only be done once we decided on the IGC/BB
>> merger.
>>
>> I personally believe that the decision of welcoming an specific group to
>> CSCG is a rather complicated one and would need to be thoroughly discussed
>> within all the groups represented at CSCG, not only best bits and IGC.
>>
>> best,
>> bruna
>>
>> Em seg, 17 de dez de 2018 às 12:02, Arsène Tungali <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:
>>
>>> This will be a discussion to happen at the CSCG level on the necessity
>>> or the opportunity to bring in new CS groups, which i personally
>>> welcome as a great idea.
>>>
>>> The CSCG ought to be inclusive of all the major civil society groups.
>>>
>>> 2018-12-17 15:47 UTC+02:00, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com>:
>>> > Thank you Arsene for your follow up on the CSCG,
>>> > Yes, the number of CS groups will be reduced to 4 if the merge will
>>> > happens.
>>> > However, I  would like to bring to your attention that during my role
>>> at
>>> > the CSCG, Ian Peter was chairing a committee that we worked to
>>> introduce a
>>> > procedures for New CSCG member.
>>> > http://internetgov-cs.org/procedures#C
>>> >
>>> > There would be possibility to add a new global CS as the 5th members
>>> and
>>> > that could be IG for Youth.
>>> > I'm not sure how organized the youth group would be and if it
>>> satisfies the
>>> > thoroughly discussed procedure for new member.
>>> > Best,
>>> > Nadira
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 14:50 Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks Farzaneh for starting this thread and thanks everyone who took
>>> >> the time to attend the call.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks also for offering to give a hand of support with some task
>>> >> within the IGC, we will take this discussion (as well as the one on
>>> >> merging) to the IGC list soon for a more elaborate discussion.
>>> >>
>>> >> And please do share the recording to give everyone an idea of what was
>>> >> discussed.
>>> >>
>>> >> I wanted to offer a quick reaction to Nadira and Michael's comments.
>>> >>
>>> >> During the call, we did not discuss much about the CSCG which is a
>>> >> coordination group where IGC is a member, alongside other members such
>>> >> as APC, Just Net Coalition, Best Bits and the ICANN's NCSG.
>>> >>
>>> >> About the merging question, this one will affect (if it happens), the
>>> >> number of CSCG members but the CSCG itself cannot be merged with
>>> >> anything (keeping this within the context). If BB and IGC merge, then
>>> >> the CSCG will now have 4 members than 5.
>>> >>
>>> >> R. Hill who is co chair of the CSCG said that once the merging
>>> >> question is cleared, then only a discussion within CSCG's structure
>>> >> and future will happen.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bruna and I, as IGC co-cos agreed to start a discussion within the IGC
>>> >> to explore the possibilities of merging IGC with BB.
>>> >>
>>> >> Hope this helps.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Arsene
>>> >>
>>> >> 2018-12-17 10:33 UTC+02:00, "Michael J. Oghia" <
>>> >> governance at lists.riseup.net>:
>>> >> > He everyone,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thank you for this summary Farzi. I think Nadira makes a good point
>>> >> > about
>>> >> > looking into that. I'm it sure how each of these three organisations
>>> >> > are
>>> >> > structured, but perhaps we should consider consolidation of all
>>> three
>>> >> > (if
>>> >> > possible).
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Best,
>>> >> > -Michael
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 11:09 PM Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Thank you Farzaneh for your briefing.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I would like to comment on the merging consequences that it will
>>> >> >> affect
>>> >> >> the structure of the
>>> >> >> http://internetgov-cs.org or the CSCG. The objective of  "The
>>> CSCG has
>>> >> >> co-operated with such bodies as international Telecomunication
>>> Union,
>>> >> >> WSIS+10, UNDESA, Internet Governance Forum, CSTD Working Group on
>>> >> >> Enhanced
>>> >> >> Cooperation, Netmundial Conference and Intiative and 1Net
>>> Initiative
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> nominate a diverse range of civil society members as speakers and
>>> >> members
>>> >> >> of committees and working groups"
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I'm not sure if CSCG structure have been discussed or not. It
>>> would be
>>> >> >> good to look into as well.
>>> >> >> Best,
>>> >> >> Nadira
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 23:10 farzaneh badii <
>>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> Dear all,
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> We had a good online meeting with up to 25 civil society members
>>> in
>>> >> >>> attendance on 13 December. I have the recording I can share with
>>> you.
>>> >> (I
>>> >> >>> have asked if sharing the recording was ok with the participants
>>> >> >>> there
>>> >> >>> was
>>> >> >>> no objection, but I give it a couple of more days before I share
>>> the
>>> >> >>> recording)
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> There was a brief overview of what was done during last year in
>>> >> >>> venues
>>> >> >>> such as RightsCon etc.
>>> >> >>> The issues that were discussed (as much as I remember):
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> We also discussed the merge of IGC and BestBits. It was decided
>>> that
>>> >> the
>>> >> >>> co-coordinator of BB and IGC discuss and give a couple of weeks
>>> >> deadline
>>> >> >>> to
>>> >> >>> come to a conclusion on whether a merge would be good.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> the suggestion to merge comes from the fact that civil society IG
>>> >> >>> activities (especially at IGF) became fragmented. We need to pool
>>> our
>>> >> >>> resources and I think Jeremy mentioned that the reasons behind the
>>> >> >>> creation
>>> >> >>> of BB are not around anymore. I believe we should make a decision
>>> on
>>> >> >>> that
>>> >> >>> soon hopefully and start pooling our resources into one effort.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> The idea of mapping initiatives and focal points:
>>> >> >>> To keep things going and be more active in 2019, it would be good
>>> to
>>> >> map
>>> >> >>> initiatives (Collin Kurre from Article 19 has good ideas about
>>> that)
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> I also suggested that we have focal points for each event or
>>> forum if
>>> >> we
>>> >> >>> want to for example organize a session or be more coordinated in
>>> our
>>> >> >>> efforts.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> I volunteered to help IGC with coordination for  IGF 2019, and
>>> civil
>>> >> >>> society pre-event. I will also help IGC with drafting something a
>>> >> public
>>> >> >>> comment for IGF taking stock call.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Best
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Farzaneh
>>> >> >>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> >> >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>> >> >>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>> >> >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>> >> >>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________
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>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> ------------------------
>>> >> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
>>> >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
>>> >> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
>>> >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
>>> >> Tel: +243 993810967
>>> >> GPG: 523644A0
>>> >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>>> >>
>>> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>>> >> <
>>> >>
>>> http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html
>>> >> >
>>> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>>> >> <
>>> >>
>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors
>>> >> >
>>> >> & Mexico
>>> >> <
>>> >>
>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors
>>> >> >)
>>> >> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> -
>>> Blogger
>>> >> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
>>> >> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC
>>> Fellow
>>> >> (
>>> >> Mauritius
>>> >> <
>>> http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners
>>> >> >)*
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ------------------------
>>> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
>>> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
>>> Tel: +243 993810967
>>> GPG: 523644A0
>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>>>
>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>>> <
>>> http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html
>>> >
>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>>> <
>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors
>>> >
>>> & Mexico
>>> <
>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors
>>> >)
>>> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> -
>>> Blogger
>>> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC
>>> Fellow (
>>> Mauritius
>>> <
>>> http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners
>>> >)*
>>> ---
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>>
>>
>> --
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>
>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> @boomartins
>>
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 13:24:49 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 13:24:49 -0500
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
In-Reply-To: <CABDXvWpbTA5uGVjW18sTntZt7yyEgF=Dvu-L-RBiVmxATrctfQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABDXvWpbTA5uGVjW18sTntZt7yyEgF=Dvu-L-RBiVmxATrctfQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks Arsene.

I will share the recording with anyone upon request. Just send me an off
list email.

Farzaneh


On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 9:00 AM Arsène Tungali <governance at lists.riseup.net>
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
> it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
> Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
> hear from you on this important question.
>
> This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
> society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
> whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
> week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
>
> I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
> anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
> should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
> how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
> BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
> group where members of both groups will all be added?
>
> This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
> (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
> hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
> share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
> the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
>
> I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
> this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
> consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
> them what they think?
>
> During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by mid-January
> and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season. We will then
> report to the group.
>
> I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
> discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
>
> Best regards,
> Arsene
> ---
> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 13:53:45 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Akinremi Peter Taiwo (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 19:53:45 +0100
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
In-Reply-To: <CABDXvWpbTA5uGVjW18sTntZt7yyEgF=Dvu-L-RBiVmxATrctfQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABDXvWpbTA5uGVjW18sTntZt7yyEgF=Dvu-L-RBiVmxATrctfQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGK4d09BuWT-4kwNPxYPDGN4GuNXVrXViA8-uZm1sQKT+Tgt+A@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Arsene for sharing your thought. I could not attend the call because
of my engagement during the ecommerce week in Nairobi.

I would say that we don't rush into this merging of IGC and Bestbit without
first clarifying questions such as the purpose of existence and whether the
merging will translate automatically to the group active participation. It
would be good to conduct an assessment that will lead to a reliable
recommendations.

With that in mind, how would that affect the structure of CSCG and
expanding it scope to accommodate more civil society organization.

Regards
Peter.

Regards.




On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 3:00 PM Arsène Tungali <governance at lists.riseup.net
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
> it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
> Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
> hear from you on this important question.
>
> This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
> society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
> whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
> week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
>
> I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
> anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
> should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
> how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
> BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
> group where members of both groups will all be added?
>
> This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
> (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
> hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
> share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
> the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
>
> I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
> this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
> consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
> them what they think?
>
> During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by mid-January
> and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season. We will then
> report to the group.
>
> I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
> discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
>
> Best regards,
> Arsene
> ---
> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 14:10:50 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 17:10:50 -0200
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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Message-ID: <CADAEEV3AxyDCpNJs25ti27suVrbmdm_QvZ17PgodWyR0eairaA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,

Thanks Arsène for kicking off the discussion here on IGC.

When the merger discussion was brought up, some of the attendees agreed
that the *"**The historical moment that required the separation of IGC and
Best bits is long gone and that the merger would be interesting due to the
limited volunteering time and resources available for managing both
groups". *Therefore, while I dont yet have a personal opinion with regards
to the merger, I believe that it could result in a stronger and (even) more
active CS caucus/coordination group.

I guess it is safe to say that we all acknowledge the importance of both
groups, as well as their legacy. And with IGC being the first Civil Society
gatherings having started back in 2003 (in the early stages of the WSIS
process) I would not be pleased with a merger that did not bear in mind the
importance of the statements issued in the past or even the importance of
groups such as ours in strengthening Civil Society participation.

At the same time, we have to consider that this list is no longer as active
as it once was and that our website <http://www.igcaucus.org/> is no longer
functional and some other things that were lost in the transition. So the
merger suggestion comes in light of the future discussions and
coordinations that could be generated within a joint/stronger group.

Having said that, I agree that we could come up with a draft merger
proposal, as suggested by @Nadira Araj <nadira.araj at gmail.com>. If we agree
on this new group, there might be a need for discussions around structure -
best bits has a steering committee while Best Bits has only two
co-coordinators - and a new institutional mandate. With regards to the
CSCG, Best Bits and IGC are 2 of the 5 CS groups represented there, but Id
say that the CSCG composition and the discussions about representation
there should be discussed in a second moment.

But I would also like to hear more from the list on this subject.

Best regards,
Bruna Santos

Em seg, 17 de dez de 2018 às 16:54, Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:

> Thanks Arsene for sharing your thought. I could not attend the call
> because of my engagement during the ecommerce week in Nairobi.
>
> I would say that we don't rush into this merging of IGC and Bestbit
> without first clarifying questions such as the purpose of existence and
> whether the merging will translate automatically to the group active
> participation. It would be good to conduct an assessment that will lead to
> a reliable recommendations.
>
> With that in mind, how would that affect the structure of CSCG and
> expanding it scope to accommodate more civil society organization.
>
> Regards
> Peter.
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 3:00 PM Arsène Tungali <governance at lists.riseup.net
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
>> it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
>> Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
>> hear from you on this important question.
>>
>> This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
>> society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
>> whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
>> week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
>>
>> I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
>> anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
>> should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
>> how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
>> BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
>> group where members of both groups will all be added?
>>
>> This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
>> (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
>> hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
>> share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
>> the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
>>
>> I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
>> this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
>> consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
>> them what they think?
>>
>> During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by mid-January
>> and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season. We will then
>> report to the group.
>>
>> I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
>> discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Arsene
>> ---
>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>
> ---
> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
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-- 
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Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 14:37:13 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" (via governance Mailing List)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 08:37:13 +1300
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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Message-ID: <CAJwbTiB35P7G6xVrBuXx8Xin8LtgtTmu67u3y8ugQW8P67NAvw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Guys,

I did not like seeing the proposal for there merger between the IGC and
Best Bits brought up FIRST outside the IGC List as opposed to this being an
in-house discussion first. On the notion that there are some in IGC who are
also in Best Bits  and the same can be said for several other
organisations, however this does not necessarily call for mergers with
those organisations. What the Coordinators should be doing and soliciting
input from its members are in identifying key strategic forums that the IGC
can prepare to engage in.

The IGC should be preparing input into the key global initiatives,

(1) The Digital Cooperation. The four additional channels for input from
organizations and the public, which are summarized here:
https://digitalcooperation.org/get-involved/. The Secretariat team will
synthesize any written contributions that come in by Jan. 31th 2019.

(2)Freedom of Expression Online. Given that we have IGC members who sit on
key panels such as the Information Democracy Commission launched within the
last quarter of this year, the IGC should have no problem submitting a
global study and report to some of these key bodies. Just a matter of
organising cross collaboration of individuals and agencies.

(3) Input into the Open Consultations facilitated by the IGF Secretariat
that will take place in Geneva at the end of January, 2019.

(4) Preparing for the WSIS in April, 2019 and to see if the IGC can host
some workshops or have a booth in Geneva.

(5) Engagement in the review of the SDGs pertaining to the Internet in New
York and co-hosting workshops at the UN HQ in New York.

(6) Co-hosting side events or sessions at the Technical Community meetings.
This can take place by involving and working with technical community
members who are part of the IGC and work towards engaging valuable
discussions.

I would also like to see better participation from the IGC within the IGF
Intersessionals such as the Best Practice Forums and the Dynamic Coalitions
and effective engagement with the National and Regional IGFs. This
obviously calls for a robust review of the current IGC and its systems and
if we see that there is a need for the merger and subject to the broad
consensus of the IGC, I do not see why not.

With every best wish,
Sala
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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 16:08:26 -0500
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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Hi Sala

Answers in line
Farzaneh


On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:35 PM "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <
governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> I did not like seeing the proposal for there merger between the IGC and
> Best Bits brought up FIRST outside the IGC List as opposed to this being an
> in-house discussion first. On the notion that there are some in IGC who are
> also in Best Bits  and the same can be said for several other
> organisations, however this does not necessarily call for mergers with
> those organisations. What the Coordinators should be doing and soliciting
> input from its members are in identifying key strategic forums that the IGC
> can prepare to engage in.
>

No sorry, this is wrong. it was not outside of IGC/BestBits list. We had it
on the agenda of the meeting (IGC and BestBits cc'd) and had the meeting as
BestBits and IGC. Arsene can also share the call for merge with Bestbits
list. Nothing was decided during the meeting and Arsene is just raising it
on this list. ( I cc'd them already)
We have problems with not being focussed and coordinated as  much as we can
especially at IGF. Balls get dropped and no one pick them up. Jeremy has
been asking for someone to take over the BestBits website and other
management issues and no one volunteers. Obviously we don't have much
resources to maintain both. Civil Society fragmentation is also very
confusing to outsiders. We have to coordinate better and we can't do that
by being fragmented.

>
> The IGC should be preparing input into the key global initiatives,
>
> (1) The Digital Cooperation. The four additional channels for input from
> organizations and the public, which are summarized here:
> https://digitalcooperation.org/get-involved/. The Secretariat team will
> synthesize any written contributions that come in by Jan. 31th 2019.
>
> (2)Freedom of Expression Online. Given that we have IGC members who sit on
> key panels such as the Information Democracy Commission launched within the
> last quarter of this year, the IGC should have no problem submitting a
> global study and report to some of these key bodies. Just a matter of
> organising cross collaboration of individuals and agencies.
>
> (3) Input into the Open Consultations facilitated by the IGF Secretariat
> that will take place in Geneva at the end of January, 2019.
>
> (4) Preparing for the WSIS in April, 2019 and to see if the IGC can host
> some workshops or have a booth in Geneva.
>
> (5) Engagement in the review of the SDGs pertaining to the Internet in New
> York and co-hosting workshops at the UN HQ in New York.
>
> (6) Co-hosting side events or sessions at the Technical Community
> meetings. This can take place by involving and working with technical
> community members who are part of the IGC and work towards engaging
> valuable discussions.
>

In my opinion IGC should really go back to the mandate De was referring. We
can see how we have evolved but it is all easy to say we need to contribute
to all these initiatives and then no one does anything.


> I would also like to see better participation from the IGC within the IGF
> Intersessionals such as the Best Practice Forums and the Dynamic Coalitions
> and effective engagement with the National and Regional IGFs. This
> obviously calls for a robust review of the current IGC and its systems and
> if we see that there is a need for the merger and subject to the broad
> consensus of the IGC, I do not see why not.
>

IGC is a caucus of various busy civil society organizations and
individuals. Being involved with so many IG  initiatives is not possible,
especially on behalf of IGC. Our individual members are involved already
with many of  the groups you suggested.

Agree on number six, but not as side-event. We can have online meetings if
we want to discuss issues with other stakeholder groups. We can also
collaborate on submitting workshops and discussing the agenda of IG events.
But if anyone wants to volunteer and get us somewhere in those forum, I
think they can do so.

I have volunteered to help IGC draft input to IGF for taking stock. I think
we need to also ask the MAG members from Civil Society to update us and
have a stronger interaction.

Anyhow this thread is about the merge of BestBits with IGC and I will
respond to Arsene's email with BestBits cc'd separately.




> With every best wish,
> Sala
> ---
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 16:17:57 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" (via governance Mailing List)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 10:17:57 +1300
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:08 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Sala
>
> Answers in line
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:35 PM "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I did not like seeing the proposal for there merger between the IGC and
>> Best Bits brought up FIRST outside the IGC List as opposed to this being an
>> in-house discussion first. On the notion that there are some in IGC who are
>> also in Best Bits  and the same can be said for several other
>> organisations, however this does not necessarily call for mergers with
>> those organisations. What the Coordinators should be doing and soliciting
>> input from its members are in identifying key strategic forums that the IGC
>> can prepare to engage in.
>>
>
> No sorry, this is wrong. it was not outside of IGC/BestBits list. We had
> it on the agenda of the meeting (IGC and BestBits cc'd) and had the meeting
> as BestBits and IGC. Arsene can also share the call for merge with Bestbits
> list. Nothing was decided during the meeting and Arsene is just raising it
> on this list. ( I cc'd them already)
>

Sala: There was no mandate nor authorisation from the IGC to raise this in
discussions, unless I missed the memo, which could have happened.

> We have problems with not being focussed and coordinated as  much as we
> can especially at IGF. Balls get dropped and no one pick them up.
>
Sala:  The solution is not a Merger but better coordination from within the
IGC and other stakeholders.


> Jeremy has been asking for someone to take over the BestBits website and
> other management issues and no one volunteers. Obviously we don't have much
> resources to maintain both.
>

Sala: Not the IGC's problem! I speak for myself within the IGC space, I am
more than willing to help the coordinators of the IGC to focus their
submissions into the IGF spaces and other spaces and to do this we need a
strategic plan.


> Civil Society fragmentation is also very confusing to outsiders. We have
> to coordinate better and we can't do that by being fragmented.
>
>>
>> Sala: The IGC needs to focus on being relevant and engaging strategically
and systematically.

> The IGC should be preparing input into the key global initiatives,
>>
>> (1) The Digital Cooperation. The four additional channels for input from
>> organizations and the public, which are summarized here:
>> https://digitalcooperation.org/get-involved/. The Secretariat team will
>> synthesize any written contributions that come in by Jan. 31th 2019.
>>
>> (2)Freedom of Expression Online. Given that we have IGC members who sit
>> on key panels such as the Information Democracy Commission launched within
>> the last quarter of this year, the IGC should have no problem submitting a
>> global study and report to some of these key bodies. Just a matter of
>> organising cross collaboration of individuals and agencies.
>>
>> (3) Input into the Open Consultations facilitated by the IGF Secretariat
>> that will take place in Geneva at the end of January, 2019.
>>
>> (4) Preparing for the WSIS in April, 2019 and to see if the IGC can host
>> some workshops or have a booth in Geneva.
>>
>> (5) Engagement in the review of the SDGs pertaining to the Internet in
>> New York and co-hosting workshops at the UN HQ in New York.
>>
>> (6) Co-hosting side events or sessions at the Technical Community
>> meetings. This can take place by involving and working with technical
>> community members who are part of the IGC and work towards engaging
>> valuable discussions.
>>
>
> In my opinion IGC should really go back to the mandate De was referring.
> We can see how we have evolved but it is all easy to say we need to
> contribute to all these initiatives and then no one does anything.
>
>
>> I would also like to see better participation from the IGC within the IGF
>> Intersessionals such as the Best Practice Forums and the Dynamic Coalitions
>> and effective engagement with the National and Regional IGFs. This
>> obviously calls for a robust review of the current IGC and its systems and
>> if we see that there is a need for the merger and subject to the broad
>> consensus of the IGC, I do not see why not.
>>
>
> IGC is a caucus of various busy civil society organizations and
> individuals. Being involved with so many IG  initiatives is not possible,
> especially on behalf of IGC. Our individual members are involved already
> with many of  the groups you suggested.
>
> Agree on number six, but not as side-event. We can have online meetings if
> we want to discuss issues with other stakeholder groups. We can also
> collaborate on submitting workshops and discussing the agenda of IG events.
> But if anyone wants to volunteer and get us somewhere in those forum, I
> think they can do so.
>
> I have volunteered to help IGC draft input to IGF for taking stock. I
> think we need to also ask the MAG members from Civil Society to update us
> and have a stronger interaction.
>
> Anyhow this thread is about the merge of BestBits with IGC and I will
> respond to Arsene's email with BestBits cc'd separately.
>
>
>
>
>> With every best wish,
>> Sala
>> ---
>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>
>

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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 16:33:49 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 16:33:49 -0500
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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Thanks Arsene.

We need to decide on merging IGC and BestBits. The suggestion comes from
the fact that we have not been active much during the past year. Also
fragmented efforts are a strain on resources. Having multiple elections and
multiple groups to coordinate (with really minimal differences) and then
not be active at all for a year is not really recommendable.

De told us that apparently there is some kind of consensus method if I am
not mistaken. De, is there a documented approach?

I think the most important is to discuss why BestBits was created and
whether the reasons still stand and how BestBits members feel about the
merge. Maybe the ones with strong objections can be convinced, maybe not.
Lets have the conversation. If we do not see a strong objection (multiple
organizations, individuals object and give reasons as to why BestBits
should remain even if dormant), then we can decide on the merge. If there
are strong objections, then we will not go with the merge.

>From what I see from BestBits website, the following individuals are at the
steering committee of BestBits:


   - Nighat Dad
   - Poncelet Ileleji
   - Renata Ribeiro
   - Dave Burstein
   - Imran Ahmed Shah [second term of election]
   - Antonella Perini [co-opted by committee]

Besbits CSCG Representatives

   - Claudio Lucena Neto (2018-2019)
   - Sheetal Kumar (2017-2018)


Does this list still stand? Do  the steering committee members of BestBits
and the reps on CSCG would like to weigh in?

I know Sheetal was on the call. Would be good to hear from others.





Farzaneh


On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 9:00 AM Arsène Tungali <governance at lists.riseup.net>
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
> it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
> Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
> hear from you on this important question.
>
> This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
> society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
> whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
> week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
>
> I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
> anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
> should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
> how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
> BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
> group where members of both groups will all be added?
>
> This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
> (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
> hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
> share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
> the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
>
> I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
> this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
> consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
> them what they think?
>
> During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by mid-January
> and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season. We will then
> report to the group.
>
> I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
> discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
>
> Best regards,
> Arsene
> ---
> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 17:03:22 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nadira Alaraj (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 00:03:22 +0200
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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Hi Farzaneh,
I'm putting some information that could be an answer to one of your
inquiries. Taken from http://internetgov-cs.org

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 23:34 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com wrote:

>
> I think the most important is to discuss why BestBits was created and
> whether the reasons still stand and how BestBits members feel about the
> merge.
>
*Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) <http://igcaucus.org/>*
>
> Our vision is that Internet governance should be inclusive, people
> centered and development oriented. Our contributions to the various forums
> relevant to Internet governance, will strive to ensure an information
> society which better enables equal opportunity and freedom for all.
> *Best Bits <http://bestbits.net/>*
>
> Best Bits is a civil society network on Internet governance and Internet
> rights. It offers an open space where each group can present and advocate
> for the initiatives that they believe offer the best positive agenda for
> advancing broadly shared civil society interests in Internet governance.
>

>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 9:00 AM Arsène Tungali <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
>> it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
>> Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
>> hear from you on this important question.
>>
>> This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
>> society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
>> whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
>> week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
>>
>> I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
>> anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
>> should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
>> how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
>> BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
>> group where members of both groups will all be added?
>>
>> This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
>> (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
>> hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
>> share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
>> the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
>>
>> I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
>> this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
>> consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
>> them what they think?
>>
>> During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by mid-January
>> and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season. We will then
>> report to the group.
>>
>> I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
>> discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Arsene
>> ---
>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 18:35:53 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 18:35:53 -0500
Subject: [governance] IGF Taking Stock/ Public Input/ responding to Macron's
 call for action??
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvDg=sWyiX5fDPccBrkPjUfkc=KX8hgOCoQyWC9tr5kMiw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all

I offered to help IGC draft an input for IGF taking stock.

While reading the call for input a  couple of questions in the taking stock
call are worrying.
*https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-community-public-consultation-taking-stock-of-the-2018-work-programme-and-13th-igf-and
<https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-community-public-consultation-taking-stock-of-the-2018-work-programme-and-13th-igf-and>*


As you know president Macron made a rather controversial speech during IGF
opening ceremony, which emphasized a lot on regulation and multilateralism.

IGF has decided to ask us (among other things):

*C) How could the IGF respond to the recommendations made by the UN
Secretary-General during his speech at the IGF 2018 Opening Ceremony
<https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2018-address-to-the-internet-governance-forum-by-un-sg-ant%C3%B3nio-guterres>?
*

*D) How could the IGF respond to President Macron’s “call for action” made
during his speech at the IGF 2018 Opening Ceremony
<https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2018-speech-by-french-president-emmanuel-macron>?*


My concerns: why do we have to treat recommendations of heads of states and
the UN secretary general differently than other parts of the community?
Surely the IGF community also came up with recommendations and best
practices. IGF has drawn an unnecessary attention to these recommendations.

I don't think these questions should be asked, especially when some of
these recommendations can endanger the multistakeholder nature of
Internet governance and the nonbinding nature of IGF.  Can MAG members on
this list shed some lights how these questions were drafted?

I think a strong answer is needed. But I don't know if we can reach
consensus here as IGC to respond specifically to these questions.





Farzaneh
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 17 23:41:30 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nardine Alnemr (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:41:30 +1100
Subject: [governance] IGF Taking Stock/ Public Input/ responding to
 Macron's call for action??
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Hi Farzaneh,
Good point that you raised there and especially that Macron's call was the
opposite of what was largely discussed in the panels and workshops.
I think this would be exactly how we may brand our response. To highlight
that IGF community should raise to the high panel and urge it to take the
key takeaways of panels more serious. Panels are ensured by governance and
selection to be multistakeholder, gender and region representative.
Something the Head of France and his cabinet cannot do.
I liked the SecGen's point on multidisciplinary approach to IG just as how
multistakeholderism has been established in the dialogues of IG. This can
also be another response in which knowledge gaps and needs identified in
the panels can be addressed.
These are my initial thoughts. Happy to discuss this further in case we
progress with presenting a contribution.

Thanks

Best,
Nardine

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:36 AM farzaneh badii <governance at lists.riseup.net>
wrote:

> Dear all
>
> I offered to help IGC draft an input for IGF taking stock.
>
> While reading the call for input a  couple of questions in the taking
> stock call are worrying.
> *https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-community-public-consultation-taking-stock-of-the-2018-work-programme-and-13th-igf-and
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-community-public-consultation-taking-stock-of-the-2018-work-programme-and-13th-igf-and>*
>
>
> As you know president Macron made a rather controversial speech during IGF
> opening ceremony, which emphasized a lot on regulation and multilateralism.
>
> IGF has decided to ask us (among other things):
>
> *C) How could the IGF respond to the recommendations made by the UN
> Secretary-General during his speech at the IGF 2018 Opening Ceremony
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2018-address-to-the-internet-governance-forum-by-un-sg-ant%C3%B3nio-guterres>? *
>
> *D) How could the IGF respond to President Macron’s “call for action” made
> during his speech at the IGF 2018 Opening Ceremony
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2018-speech-by-french-president-emmanuel-macron>?*
>
>
> My concerns: why do we have to treat recommendations of heads of states
> and the UN secretary general differently than other parts of the community?
> Surely the IGF community also came up with recommendations and best
> practices. IGF has drawn an unnecessary attention to these recommendations.
>
> I don't think these questions should be asked, especially when some of
> these recommendations can endanger the multistakeholder nature of
> Internet governance and the nonbinding nature of IGF.  Can MAG members on
> this list shed some lights how these questions were drafted?
>
> I think a strong answer is needed. But I don't know if we can reach
> consensus here as IGC to respond specifically to these questions.
>
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne?= Tungali (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 07:31:51 +0200
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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Farzaneh, all,

While we are still discussing and I do appreciate the discussion, may
I please suggest we keep discussions separate in each specific group?
As I said in my original email, the issue of a merger should be
discussed SEPARATELY at the IGC and Best Bits lists.

Each group needs to have an internal discussion.

So, please do not Cc both groups when communicating. Some members are
on both lists and have posting rights on both but others don't, this
may lead to having fragmented pieces of emails when everyone is
responding.

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks,
Arsene

2018-12-17 23:33 UTC+02:00, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
> Thanks Arsene.
>
> We need to decide on merging IGC and BestBits. The suggestion comes from
> the fact that we have not been active much during the past year. Also
> fragmented efforts are a strain on resources. Having multiple elections and
> multiple groups to coordinate (with really minimal differences) and then
> not be active at all for a year is not really recommendable.
>
> De told us that apparently there is some kind of consensus method if I am
> not mistaken. De, is there a documented approach?
>
> I think the most important is to discuss why BestBits was created and
> whether the reasons still stand and how BestBits members feel about the
> merge. Maybe the ones with strong objections can be convinced, maybe not.
> Lets have the conversation. If we do not see a strong objection (multiple
> organizations, individuals object and give reasons as to why BestBits
> should remain even if dormant), then we can decide on the merge. If there
> are strong objections, then we will not go with the merge.
>
> From what I see from BestBits website, the following individuals are at the
> steering committee of BestBits:
>
>
>    - Nighat Dad
>    - Poncelet Ileleji
>    - Renata Ribeiro
>    - Dave Burstein
>    - Imran Ahmed Shah [second term of election]
>    - Antonella Perini [co-opted by committee]
>
> Besbits CSCG Representatives
>
>    - Claudio Lucena Neto (2018-2019)
>    - Sheetal Kumar (2017-2018)
>
>
> Does this list still stand? Do  the steering committee members of BestBits
> and the reps on CSCG would like to weigh in?
>
> I know Sheetal was on the call. Would be good to hear from others.
>
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 9:00 AM Arsène Tungali
> <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
>> it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
>> Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
>> hear from you on this important question.
>>
>> This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
>> society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
>> whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
>> week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
>>
>> I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
>> anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
>> should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
>> how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
>> BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
>> group where members of both groups will all be added?
>>
>> This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
>> (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
>> hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
>> share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
>> the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
>>
>> I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
>> this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
>> consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
>> them what they think?
>>
>> During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by mid-January
>> and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season. We will then
>> report to the group.
>>
>> I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
>> discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Arsene
>> ---
>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>
>


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<http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
Tel: +243 993810967
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<http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html>
(YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
<http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors>
& Mexico
<http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
- AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
<http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
<https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC Fellow (
Mauritius
<http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners>)*

From governance at lists.riseup.net  Tue Dec 18 00:43:12 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne?= Tungali (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 07:43:12 +0200
Subject: [governance] IGF Taking Stock/ Public Input/ responding to
 Macron's call for action??
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HI Farzaneh,

This is personal opinion.

I think the two speeches are put forward for discussion because it is
the first time (i didn't check this though, so i may be wrong) a Head
of State (from the Host country) has attended the IGF and the UN
General Secretary as well.

I think we can choose to respond to just some of these questions or to
all of them. If we chose not to focus on those two speeches (though i
think we should), then let's respond to the other questions.

The MAG (to the best of my knowledge) was not consulted on framing the
questions but this is a general practice by the Secretariat after each
IGF.

Thanks,
Arsene

2018-12-18 1:35 UTC+02:00, farzaneh badii <governance at lists.riseup.net>:
> Dear all
>
> I offered to help IGC draft an input for IGF taking stock.
>
> While reading the call for input a  couple of questions in the taking stock
> call are worrying.
> *https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-community-public-consultation-taking-stock-of-the-2018-work-programme-and-13th-igf-and
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-community-public-consultation-taking-stock-of-the-2018-work-programme-and-13th-igf-and>*
>
>
> As you know president Macron made a rather controversial speech during IGF
> opening ceremony, which emphasized a lot on regulation and multilateralism.
>
> IGF has decided to ask us (among other things):
>
> *C) How could the IGF respond to the recommendations made by the UN
> Secretary-General during his speech at the IGF 2018 Opening Ceremony
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2018-address-to-the-internet-governance-forum-by-un-sg-ant%C3%B3nio-guterres>?
> *
>
> *D) How could the IGF respond to President Macron’s “call for action” made
> during his speech at the IGF 2018 Opening Ceremony
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2018-speech-by-french-president-emmanuel-macron>?*
>
>
> My concerns: why do we have to treat recommendations of heads of states and
> the UN secretary general differently than other parts of the community?
> Surely the IGF community also came up with recommendations and best
> practices. IGF has drawn an unnecessary attention to these recommendations.
>
> I don't think these questions should be asked, especially when some of
> these recommendations can endanger the multistakeholder nature of
> Internet governance and the nonbinding nature of IGF.  Can MAG members on
> this list shed some lights how these questions were drafted?
>
> I think a strong answer is needed. But I don't know if we can reach
> consensus here as IGC to respond specifically to these questions.
>
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>


-- 
------------------------
**Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
<http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
Tel: +243 993810967
GPG: 523644A0
*Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*

2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
<http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html>
(YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
<http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors>
& Mexico
<http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
- AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
<http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
<https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC Fellow (
Mauritius
<http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners>)*

From governance at lists.riseup.net  Tue Dec 18 06:50:24 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Michael J. Oghia" (via governance Mailing List)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:50:24 +0100
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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Hi Sheetal, all:

I really appreciate the way you framed it Sheetal, and also appreciated
Nadira's context + De's questions. Forgive my potentially myopic view of
these groups considering their background and original mandate, but even
the recent example of our joint HLPDC submission provides a good instance
of why these groups exist. From my understanding, one of the reasons you
initiated it was due to the lack of civil society coordination, and was in
many ways the spark that ignited this discussion. That's not to say it's
the first time, but I guess it brought the issue back to light.

I agree with your process, and echo your call for feedback about merging
the lists since, so far, no one has seemed to dissent. Yet, if someone has
a good reason why they shouldn't be, we should hear from them.

Best,
-Michael


On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 11:37 AM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
wrote:

> Dear Farzaneh, all
>
> In response to whether the Steering Committee of Bestbits still stands, my
> understand ing is that all the mandates have expired. My CSCG mandate has
> also expired.
>
> But there is a question that we did agree to answer on the call last week,
> namely whether to merge the Bestbits and IGC lists. I think that needs to
> be answered, as Bruna has said, before any new Steering Committee elections
> are launched. So, thanks Nadira for sharing that information about Bestbits
> and IGC's mandates. That's useful information for our discussion!
>
> Deirdre asked a fundamental question about the relevance of both groups on
> another thread ("are discussion spaces like Internet Governance
> Caucus/Bestbits still relevant? I ask because they have fallen very silent
> over the last year. This question needs an answer"). My response would be
> that it seems, including from the strong attendance on the call last week,
> that there is interest not only in discussing internet/digital issues among
> civil society - and as she also points out in the same email, their
> intersection with other issues - and sharing information but also in
> greater coordination. The question seems to be more how to do it and what
> challenges there are. In terms of challenges, one issue that was raised was
> the existence of lists that duplicate each others mandates, namely Bestbits
> and IGC. There was support for merging them on the call, and then holding
> elections for a Steering Committee afterwards but a decision could not be
> made on the call of course. So separate consultations must be had with each
> group. That seems to be to be the focus for our discussion now.
>
> Therefore, I'd suggest that we continue to have this conversation about
> whether to merge the lists or not and aim to come up with a response by
> mid-January. We could either hold a vote with our separate constituencies
> or simply say that unless anyone strongly objects, the lists will be merged
> at a certain point.
>
> In terms of what a new steering committee could do to promote stronger
> coordination, there were a number of ideas floated including organising a
> pre-Rightscon meeting, and promoting greater awareness and communication
> with civil society representatives at relevant IG mechanisms.
>
> Does anyone on Bestbits have concerns or disagrees with the merging of the
> lists? Are there other options for promoting greater coordination, than
> using + merging already existing platforms?
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
>
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 22:03, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Farzaneh,
>> I'm putting some information that could be an answer to one of your
>> inquiries. Taken from http://internetgov-cs.org
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 23:34 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think the most important is to discuss why BestBits was created and
>>> whether the reasons still stand and how BestBits members feel about the
>>> merge.
>>>
>> *Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) <http://igcaucus.org/>*
>>>
>>> Our vision is that Internet governance should be inclusive, people
>>> centered and development oriented. Our contributions to the various forums
>>> relevant to Internet governance, will strive to ensure an information
>>> society which better enables equal opportunity and freedom for all.
>>> *Best Bits <http://bestbits.net/>*
>>>
>>> Best Bits is a civil society network on Internet governance and Internet
>>> rights. It offers an open space where each group can present and advocate
>>> for the initiatives that they believe offer the best positive agenda for
>>> advancing broadly shared civil society interests in Internet governance.
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 9:00 AM Arsène Tungali <
>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
>>>> it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
>>>> Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
>>>> hear from you on this important question.
>>>>
>>>> This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
>>>> society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
>>>> whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
>>>> week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
>>>>
>>>> I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
>>>> anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
>>>> should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
>>>> how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
>>>> BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
>>>> group where members of both groups will all be added?
>>>>
>>>> This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
>>>> (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
>>>> hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
>>>> share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
>>>> the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
>>>>
>>>> I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
>>>> this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
>>>> consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
>>>> them what they think?
>>>>
>>>> During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by mid-January
>>>> and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season. We will then
>>>> report to the group.
>>>>
>>>> I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
>>>> discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Arsene
>>>> ---
>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Thu Dec  6 15:23:46 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 15:23:46 -0500
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting -
 thinking 2019 ahead.
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Would Google Hang out work for everyone? If not I can provide the virtual
room but it might not be available for some participants around the world.

I suggest the following agenda:

1. What are the most important Internet governance issues that civil
society should address throughout 2019.
2. What is the best way to address them? [issuing joint statements, issuing
public comments, holding sessions etc, working with other stakeholders)
3. How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their functions and
hold them accountable?
4. Merging BestBits and IGC?
5. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society network.



Farzaneh


On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 3:00 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I'd like to add 'Bestbits Steering Committee - elections..To have or not
> to have' on the agenda.
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
>
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 07:35, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I can see if we can use our Zoom account. @Bruna – will you create an
>> agenda, or should we do it collaboratively?
>>
>> Best,
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:56 AM Arsène Tungali <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bruna, all
>>>
>>> Thanks for starting this thread and thanks everyone for their
>>> contributions so far. My apologies as I can only join the discussion now.
>>>
>>> It is great that we have a scheduled meeting and i really look forward
>>> to it. I would encourage us all to contribute to the agenda setting and
>>> plan on joining the call. Unfortunately, I could not join you all in Paris
>>> and missed all different CS gatherings.
>>>
>>> I would like to suggest an agenda item for the upcoming meeting :
>>> “Mapping of different existing initiatives and list civil society appointed
>>> representatives there. How can we better support them?”
>>>
>>> The idea here is for us to start a google doc (before the meeting) where
>>> we list various initiatives/mechanisms such as the HLPDC, IGF MAG, etc and
>>> identify appointed CS representatives and then discuss how we can best
>>> support them, amplifying their voice and ensuring they receive and channel
>>> our contributions/inputs.
>>>
>>> During the meeting on Dec 13, we can make sure we invite them to join
>>> the call and encourage at least one of them to share on the latest
>>> developments in their group and suggest ways the broader CS groups can
>>> support them.
>>>
>>> I am happy to facilitate this item on the agenda if given the
>>> opportunity to do so and should we decide to have it on the meeting agenda.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Arsene
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 05 Dec 2018, at 17:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance
>>> Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Thanks to all who answered to the poll and thread. I have just closed
>>> the poll and t*he selected date for the meeting is Dec 13th, at 16h00
>>> UTC*.
>>>
>>> Please feel free to suggest agenda items and If anyone would like to
>>> help facilitating the meeting, just let me know!
>>>
>>> best,
>>> Bruna
>>>
>>> Em qua, 5 de dez de 2018 às 12:58, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> I've also filled out the doodle, thanks Bruna!
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 15:17, Carolina Rossini <
>>>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need for
>>>>>> a Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few opportunities we
>>>>>> had to meet while in Paris.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss Civil
>>>>>> Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS
>>>>>> Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a
>>>>>> possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For that I have set up this doodle
>>>>>> <https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested time
>>>>>> slots on the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel free to
>>>>>> suggest agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date and time
>>>>>> of your preference - *and also to share it widely*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>> @boomartins
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Tue Dec 18 08:22:09 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Remmy Nweke (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 14:22:09 +0100
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
In-Reply-To: <CAJdpWNA4=hiip1iMu9MpOm7wYP7RDt84yjQ2bDnRvOcRno8Z1A@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks Nadia and Arsene
Riding on Nadir's proposition I think we may call for vote on this, stating
clearly the purpose and thereafter the joint committee of not more than 5
can be set up and we progress from there.
Remmy

On Mon, 17 Dec 2018, 4:24 p.m. Nadira Alaraj <governance at lists.riseup.net
wrote:

> Dear Arsene,
> Thank you very much for bringing the issue of merging the 2 CS groups into
> one list.
> I would suggest to start by proposing a merge of the mission statements
> between the two groups.
> Then members or working group from both IGC/BB  work to develop a
> proposed draft of mission statement to the joint group.
> Circulate this draft for comments at the two mailing lists.
> Compile the comments by editing the proposed draft mission statement. Then
> circulated again.
> You will keep developing the draft and going into rounds until you get no
> comments or no objection.  Then at that time it be considered a consensus
> agreement of the new mission for the merged groups.
> This is my 2 cents of thought
> Best
> Nadira
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 16:00 Arsène Tungali <governance at lists.riseup.net
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
>> it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
>> Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
>> hear from you on this important question.
>>
>> This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
>> society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
>> whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
>> week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
>>
>> I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
>> anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
>> should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
>> how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
>> BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
>> group where members of both groups will all be added?
>>
>> This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
>> (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
>> hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
>> share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
>> the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
>>
>> I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
>> this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
>> consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
>> them what they think?
>>
>> During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by mid-January
>> and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season. We will then
>> report to the group.
>>
>> I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
>> discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Arsene
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From LB at lucabelli.net  Tue Dec 18 11:18:45 2018
From: LB at lucabelli.net (LB at lucabelli.net)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:18:45 -0700
Subject: [governance] Community Networks in Latin America: Challenges,
 Regulations and Solutions
Message-ID: <20181218091845.2700328f4bbfc197480209526f2a1375.4e7d6b2ddd.mailapi@email07.godaddy.com>

 Dear colleagues (apologies for cross-posting) 
 In case you are interested in connectivity policies and alternative solutions to bridge the digital divides, you might enjoy reading this study on “Community Networks in Latin America: Challenges, Regulations and Solutions”
 The purposes of this study are threefold: 
  
+ highlighting the potential of community networks in terms of expanding connectivity and its positive social, cultural and economic externalities;  
+ analysing the legal frameworks for CNs in Latin America, considering international law and national legislations;  
+ identifying the policy elements that might optimize the development of CNs and the regulatory experiences that have allowed removing obstacles to their full operation.  

 The study is sponsored by ISOC in partnership with APC, FGV and Redes A.C. and can be freely downloaded here https://www.internetsociety.org/resources/doc/2018/community-networks-in-latin-america/ 
 The Spanish version is available here https://www.internetsociety.org/es/resources/doc/2018/redes-comunitarias-en-america-latina/ 
 All the best
 Luca
 
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Professor of Internet Governance and Regulation, FGV Rio de Janeiro Law School 
Chercheur Associ&eacute;, Centre de Droit Public Compar&eacute;, Universit&eacute; Paris 2

www.internet-governance.fgv.br
@1lucabelli 

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From ian.peter at ianpeter.com  Tue Dec 18 18:11:44 2018
From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 23:11:44 +0000
Subject: [governance] The world has changed but we haven't.
In-Reply-To: <CABDXvWpbTA5uGVjW18sTntZt7yyEgF=Dvu-L-RBiVmxATrctfQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi everyone,

My state of health makes travelling on long flights to crowded halls in 
northern hemisphere winters too much of a risk, so my involvement in 
internet governance issues will remain peripheral. But I remain an 
interested observer and do hope that the efforts of those seeking change 
to create a more effective civil society presence do succeed. There is a 
lot to do out there and it would be good to see the way forward for 
effective civil society involvement.

Forgive me for such a wide ranging post as this, but given the 
conversations that have started up here I think it is worthwhile to add 
a wider perspective to the discussions on civil society involvement in 
“internet governance”.

There was a point of time when the Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) was 
a lively and all inclusive forum for civil society people and 
organisations interested in internet governance. That relates back to a 
time when the term was new, as was the internet to many people. In those 
days IGC was capable of working together and coming up with good joint 
statements on issues.

But then there were political splits, and Just Net Coalition (JNC) and 
Best Bits (BB) sprung up to ensure that specific viewpoints were given 
emphasis.

But of late neither BB or JNC has been very active – nor has IGC. (I 
note that the JNC website has no new entries in 2018, nor has its blog, 
and if I am not wrong their public mailing list has also been inactive 
for this period).

So all three appear to be in a state of inertia. It is definitely time 
for something to happen, but what exactly is a bit of a dilemma.

Lets say that we let bygones be bygones and all three groups decided to 
merge again into one? Will that create a useful civil society forum?

Of itself, I don't think so. (3*0=0). What is needed is changes to make 
civil society involvement in these issues more widespread, 
representative and credible. And I think that is going to involve 
greater changes, and also a very strong outreach campaign.

So let me begin by saying the term internet governance is becoming about 
as relevant as television governance. There is nothing generic left to 
do, but there are plenty of emerging issues around the internet where 
civil society needs to present a strong voice.

Apart from digital inclusion, big issues out there include privacy, 
human rights, media domination, cybersecurity, cyberwarfare, digital 
distortion etc: and they come up in separate discussions concerning 
internet of things, artificial intelligence etc as well as in political 
discussions on terrorism, national security and related subjects. Mostly 
these days these issues are addressed in separate fora by different 
groups: often governmental, but sometimes also involving the big 
dominant players (Google Facebook etc.) In most cases civil society 
presence is either absent or weak, and its not sensible to think that 
the same people can represent our interests in this wide range of 
activities.

So I think a new revived IGC would see its primary role as ensuring 
relevant groups and individual experts get involved in emerging fora 
looking at specific issues. Let eg Privacy International or Human Rights 
Watch be our representative when these issues come up: involve 
individual experts like Tim Wu and Bruce Schneier on issues such as 
media concentration and security:

Then I think we are getting towards a meaningful role and involvement 
where civil society involvement will be respected, and IGC could play a 
meaningful ongoing role that extends well beyond getting together 
annually at an IGF (if it continues).

Then there is what to do with CSCG. If, as I suggest, BB, JNC and IGC 
end up as one group again, What is the future of CSCG? Only APC remains 
as an active organisation at this stage. I think here thought needs to 
be given to outreach as well – if for instance there was an agreement 
that privacy and human rights were our two biggest issues, why not 
invite prominent civil society organisations in those areas to join in?

Anyway, something needs to be done in all these areas. People whose 
terms of office have ended have not been replaced because of the 
inertia. I think and hope someone can jump up and take a lead to get 
civil society working well in these areas. I see lots of excellent new 
voices who want to do this, and I encourage action!



Ian Peter (ex co-ordinator of IGC and also Chair of CSCG for a while way 
back then....)







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From dave at davecake.net  Tue Dec 18 21:31:41 2018
From: dave at davecake.net (David Cake)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 10:31:41 +0800
Subject: [governance] The world has changed but we haven't.
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> On 19 Dec 2018, at 7:11 am, ian.peter at ianpeter.com wrote:
> Then there is what to do with CSCG. If, as I suggest, BB, JNC and IGC end up as one group again, What is the future of CSCG? Only APC remains as an active organisation at this stage. I think here thought needs to be given to outreach as well – if for instance there was an agreement that privacy and human rights were our two biggest issues, why not invite prominent civil society organisations in those areas to join in?

	You forgot NCSG, which continues to be very active and busy (and focussed on privacy and human rights), just, as always, focussed on ICANN issues.

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From ian.peter at ianpeter.com  Tue Dec 18 23:14:21 2018
From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 04:14:21 +0000
Subject: [governance] The world has changed but we haven't.
In-Reply-To: <08D6EE7D-014B-4AE9-A259-DD55DED6A66D@davecake.net>
References: <CABDXvWpbTA5uGVjW18sTntZt7yyEgF=Dvu-L-RBiVmxATrctfQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Oops - yes sorry Dave forgot about NCSG of ICANN altogether.

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From: "David Cake" <dave at davecake.net>
To: "ian.peter at ianpeter.com" <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
Cc: "governance" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
Sent: 19/12/2018 1:31:41 PM
Subject: Re: [governance] The world has changed but we haven't.

>
>
>>On 19 Dec 2018, at 7:11 am, ian.peter at ianpeter.com wrote:
>>Then there is what to do with CSCG. If, as I suggest, BB, JNC and IGC 
>>end up as one group again, What is the future of CSCG? Only APC 
>>remains as an active organisation at this stage. I think here thought 
>>needs to be given to outreach as well – if for instance there was an 
>>agreement that privacy and human rights were our two biggest issues, 
>>why not invite prominent civil society organisations in those areas to 
>>join in?
>>
>
>You forgot NCSG, which continues to be very active and busy (and 
>focussed on privacy and human rights), just, as always, focussed on 
>ICANN issues.
>
>David
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Wed Dec 19 07:17:35 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Akinremi Peter Taiwo (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 13:17:35 +0100
Subject: [governance] The world has changed but we haven't.
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Thanks Ian Peter for broaden the discussion. So the discussion about
merging has IGC, Bestbits and JNC in view.

Regards.
Peter.

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018, 12:13 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com <
ian.peter at ianpeter.com wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> My state of health makes travelling on long flights to crowded halls in
> northern hemisphere winters too much of a risk, so my involvement in
> internet governance issues will remain peripheral. But I remain an
> interested observer and do hope that the efforts of those seeking change to
> create a more effective civil society presence do succeed. There is a lot
> to do out there and it would be good to see the way forward for effective
> civil society involvement.
>
> Forgive me for such a wide ranging post as this, but given the
> conversations that have started up here I think it is worthwhile to add a
> wider perspective to the discussions on civil society involvement in
> “internet governance”.
>
> There was a point of time when the Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) was a
> lively and all inclusive forum for civil society people and organisations
> interested in internet governance. That relates back to a time when the
> term was new, as was the internet to many people. In those days IGC was
> capable of working together and coming up with good joint statements on
> issues.
>
> But then there were political splits, and Just Net Coalition (JNC) and
> Best Bits (BB) sprung up to ensure that specific viewpoints were given
> emphasis.
>
> But of late neither BB or JNC has been very active – nor has IGC. (I note
> that the JNC website has no new entries in 2018, nor has its blog, and if I
> am not wrong their public mailing list has also been inactive for this
> period).
>
> So all three appear to be in a state of inertia. It is definitely time for
> something to happen, but what exactly is a bit of a dilemma.
>
> Lets say that we let bygones be bygones and all three groups decided to
> merge again into one? Will that create a useful civil society forum?
>
> Of itself, I don't think so. (3*0=0). What is needed is changes to make
> civil society involvement in these issues more widespread, representative
> and credible. And I think that is going to involve greater changes, and
> also a very strong outreach campaign.
>
> So let me begin by saying the term internet governance is becoming about
> as relevant as television governance. There is nothing generic left to do,
> but there are plenty of emerging issues around the internet where civil
> society needs to present a strong voice.
>
> Apart from digital inclusion, big issues out there include privacy, human
> rights, media domination, cybersecurity, cyberwarfare, digital distortion
> etc: and they come up in separate discussions concerning internet of
> things, artificial intelligence etc as well as in political discussions on
> terrorism, national security and related subjects. Mostly these days these
> issues are addressed in separate fora by different groups: often
> governmental, but sometimes also involving the big dominant players (Google
> Facebook etc.) In most cases civil society presence is either absent or
> weak, and its not sensible to think that the same people can represent our
> interests in this wide range of activities.
>
> So I think a new revived IGC would see its primary role as ensuring
> relevant groups and individual experts get involved in emerging fora
> looking at specific issues. Let eg Privacy International or Human Rights
> Watch be our representative when these issues come up: involve individual
> experts like Tim Wu and Bruce Schneier on issues such as media
> concentration and security:
>
> Then I think we are getting towards a meaningful role and involvement
> where civil society involvement will be respected, and IGC could play a
> meaningful ongoing role that extends well beyond getting together annually
> at an IGF (if it continues).
>
> Then there is what to do with CSCG. If, as I suggest, BB, JNC and IGC end
> up as one group again, What is the future of CSCG? Only APC remains as an
> active organisation at this stage. I think here thought needs to be given
> to outreach as well – if for instance there was an agreement that privacy
> and human rights were our two biggest issues, why not invite prominent
> civil society organisations in those areas to join in?
>
> Anyway, something needs to be done in all these areas. People whose terms
> of office have ended have not been replaced because of the inertia. I think
> and hope someone can jump up and take a lead to get civil society working
> well in these areas. I see lots of excellent new voices who want to do
> this, and I encourage action!
>
>
> Ian Peter (ex co-ordinator of IGC and also Chair of CSCG for a while way
> back then....)
>
>
>
>
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Thu Dec 20 00:13:35 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Nardine Alnemr (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 16:13:35 +1100
Subject: [governance] IGF Taking Stock/ Public Input/ responding to
 Macron's call for action??
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Hi Arsene,
I realise your response was to Farzaneh but I find it very interesting.
I think it is strategic to get visibility and some serious consideration if
the contributions respond to the speeches, just as you said because it is
notable.
I would also like to raise that it is important to be critical. At least
the high panel is an important platform for actually enacting some of the
values and aspirations often discussed in previous IGFs.
Although responding to all questions is more comprehensive, it may be
exhausting and not of much echo as addressing the most controversial aspect
which is the speeches. That's just my opinion but eager to keep the
conversation going.

Best,
Nardine


On Tue, 18 Dec 2018, 16:43 Arsène Tungali <governance at lists.riseup.net
wrote:

> HI Farzaneh,
>
> This is personal opinion.
>
> I think the two speeches are put forward for discussion because it is
> the first time (i didn't check this though, so i may be wrong) a Head
> of State (from the Host country) has attended the IGF and the UN
> General Secretary as well.
>
> I think we can choose to respond to just some of these questions or to
> all of them. If we chose not to focus on those two speeches (though i
> think we should), then let's respond to the other questions.
>
> The MAG (to the best of my knowledge) was not consulted on framing the
> questions but this is a general practice by the Secretariat after each
> IGF.
>
> Thanks,
> Arsene
>
> 2018-12-18 1:35 UTC+02:00, farzaneh badii <governance at lists.riseup.net>:
> > Dear all
> >
> > I offered to help IGC draft an input for IGF taking stock.
> >
> > While reading the call for input a  couple of questions in the taking
> stock
> > call are worrying.
> > *
> https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-community-public-consultation-taking-stock-of-the-2018-work-programme-and-13th-igf-and
> > <
> https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-community-public-consultation-taking-stock-of-the-2018-work-programme-and-13th-igf-and
> >*
> >
> >
> > As you know president Macron made a rather controversial speech during
> IGF
> > opening ceremony, which emphasized a lot on regulation and
> multilateralism.
> >
> > IGF has decided to ask us (among other things):
> >
> > *C) How could the IGF respond to the recommendations made by the UN
> > Secretary-General during his speech at the IGF 2018 Opening Ceremony
> > <
> https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2018-address-to-the-internet-governance-forum-by-un-sg-ant%C3%B3nio-guterres
> >?
> > *
> >
> > *D) How could the IGF respond to President Macron’s “call for action”
> made
> > during his speech at the IGF 2018 Opening Ceremony
> > <
> https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2018-speech-by-french-president-emmanuel-macron
> >?*
> >
> >
> > My concerns: why do we have to treat recommendations of heads of states
> and
> > the UN secretary general differently than other parts of the community?
> > Surely the IGF community also came up with recommendations and best
> > practices. IGF has drawn an unnecessary attention to these
> recommendations.
> >
> > I don't think these questions should be asked, especially when some of
> > these recommendations can endanger the multistakeholder nature of
> > Internet governance and the nonbinding nature of IGF.  Can MAG members on
> > this list shed some lights how these questions were drafted?
> >
> > I think a strong answer is needed. But I don't know if we can reach
> > consensus here as IGC to respond specifically to these questions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Farzaneh
> >
>
>
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> >
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> >
> & Mexico
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> >)
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From milton at gatech.edu  Thu Dec 20 16:30:59 2018
From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 21:30:59 +0000
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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I am feeling very old reading these messages ;-)

To me it is obvious that IGC, BB and CSGC are all outgrowths of WSIS civil society, which started around 2001. What became IGC started as the mailing list of WSIS civil society.

Why not consider the merged or combined entity to be the “new” IGC? BB barely exists anymore, and it emerged as an outgrowth of IGC in reality. There is no need to turn our back on the long history of WSIS civil society while at the same time reorganizing in a way that recognizes the contribution of BB and makes us more effective.

What should be clear to everyone is that the current arrangement is no longer effective and something needs to be changed.

I also believe that the current structure of CSCG is an arbitrary historical artifact and should not constrain what we do now. I do agree with Bruna, however, that restructuring CSGC representation should be step two. Let’s get IGC’s house in order first.


Dr. Milton Mueller
Professor, School of Public Policy
Georgia Institute of Technology





From: governance-request at lists.riseup.net [mailto:governance-request at lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of Bruna Martins dos Santos
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 2:11 PM
To: Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com>; Nadira Araj <nadira.araj at gmail.com>
Cc: Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>; governance <governance at lists.riseup.net>
Subject: Re: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits

Dear All,

Thanks Arsène for kicking off the discussion here on IGC.

When the merger discussion was brought up, some of the attendees agreed that the "The historical moment that required the separation of IGC and Best bits is long gone and that the merger would be interesting due to the limited volunteering time and resources available for managing both groups". Therefore, while I dont yet have a personal opinion with regards to the merger, I believe that it could result in a stronger and (even) more active CS caucus/coordination group.

I guess it is safe to say that we all acknowledge the importance of both groups, as well as their legacy. And with IGC being the first Civil Society gatherings having started back in 2003 (in the early stages of the WSIS process) I would not be pleased with a merger that did not bear in mind the importance of the statements issued in the past or even the importance of groups such as ours in strengthening Civil Society participation.

At the same time, we have to consider that this list is no longer as active as it once was and that our website<http://www.igcaucus.org/> is no longer functional and some other things that were lost in the transition. So the merger suggestion comes in light of the future discussions and coordinations that could be generated within a joint/stronger group.

Having said that, I agree that we could come up with a draft merger proposal, as suggested by @Nadira Araj<mailto:nadira.araj at gmail.com>. If we agree on this new group, there might be a need for discussions around structure - best bits has a steering committee while Best Bits has only two co-coordinators - and a new institutional mandate. With regards to the CSCG, Best Bits and IGC are 2 of the 5 CS groups represented there, but Id say that the CSCG composition and the discussions about representation there should be discussed in a second moment.

But I would also like to hear more from the list on this subject.

Best regards,
Bruna Santos

Em seg, 17 de dez de 2018 às 16:54, Akinremi Peter Taiwo <governance at lists.riseup.net<mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>> escreveu:
Thanks Arsene for sharing your thought. I could not attend the call because of my engagement during the ecommerce week in Nairobi.

I would say that we don't rush into this merging of IGC and Bestbit without first clarifying questions such as the purpose of existence and whether the merging will translate automatically to the group active participation. It would be good to conduct an assessment that will lead to a reliable recommendations.

With that in mind, how would that affect the structure of CSCG and expanding it scope to accommodate more civil society organization.

Regards
Peter.

Regards.



On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 3:00 PM Arsène Tungali <governance at lists.riseup.net<mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
Hi everyone,

You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
hear from you on this important question.

This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.

I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
group where members of both groups will all be added?

This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
(SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).

I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
them what they think?

During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by mid-January
and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season. We will then
report to the group.

I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.

Best regards,
Arsene
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From milton at gatech.edu  Thu Dec 20 16:32:28 2018
From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 21:32:28 +0000
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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Why segregate the discussions, Arsene? 
I don't understand that. It merely perpetuates the problem of a fragmented and uncoordinated civil society!

--MM

> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance-request at lists.riseup.net [mailto:governance-
> request at lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of Arsène Tungali
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:32 AM
> To: Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> Cc: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>;
> governance <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> Subject: Re: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
> 
> Farzaneh, all,
> 
> While we are still discussing and I do appreciate the discussion, may I please
> suggest we keep discussions separate in each specific group?
> As I said in my original email, the issue of a merger should be discussed
> SEPARATELY at the IGC and Best Bits lists.
> 
> Each group needs to have an internal discussion.
> 
> So, please do not Cc both groups when communicating. Some members are
> on both lists and have posting rights on both but others don't, this may lead
> to having fragmented pieces of emails when everyone is responding.
> 
> Hope this makes sense.
> 
> Thanks,
> Arsene
> 
> 2018-12-17 23:33 UTC+02:00, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
> > Thanks Arsene.
> >
> > We need to decide on merging IGC and BestBits. The suggestion comes
> > from the fact that we have not been active much during the past year.
> > Also fragmented efforts are a strain on resources. Having multiple
> > elections and multiple groups to coordinate (with really minimal
> > differences) and then not be active at all for a year is not really
> recommendable.
> >
> > De told us that apparently there is some kind of consensus method if I
> > am not mistaken. De, is there a documented approach?
> >
> > I think the most important is to discuss why BestBits was created and
> > whether the reasons still stand and how BestBits members feel about
> > the merge. Maybe the ones with strong objections can be convinced,
> maybe not.
> > Lets have the conversation. If we do not see a strong objection
> > (multiple organizations, individuals object and give reasons as to why
> > BestBits should remain even if dormant), then we can decide on the
> > merge. If there are strong objections, then we will not go with the merge.
> >
> > From what I see from BestBits website, the following individuals are
> > at the steering committee of BestBits:
> >
> >
> >    - Nighat Dad
> >    - Poncelet Ileleji
> >    - Renata Ribeiro
> >    - Dave Burstein
> >    - Imran Ahmed Shah [second term of election]
> >    - Antonella Perini [co-opted by committee]
> >
> > Besbits CSCG Representatives
> >
> >    - Claudio Lucena Neto (2018-2019)
> >    - Sheetal Kumar (2017-2018)
> >
> >
> > Does this list still stand? Do  the steering committee members of
> > BestBits and the reps on CSCG would like to weigh in?
> >
> > I know Sheetal was on the call. Would be good to hear from others.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Farzaneh
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 9:00 AM Arsène Tungali
> > <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
> >> it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
> >> Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
> >> hear from you on this important question.
> >>
> >> This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
> >> society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
> >> whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
> >> week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
> >>
> >> I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
> >> anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
> >> should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
> >> how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
> >> BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
> >> group where members of both groups will all be added?
> >>
> >> This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
> >> (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
> >> hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
> >> share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
> >> the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
> >>
> >> I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
> >> this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
> >> consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
> >> them what they think?
> >>
> >> During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by
> >> mid-January and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season.
> >> We will then report to the group.
> >>
> >> I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
> >> discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Arsene
> >> ---
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> >> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
> >>
> >
> 
> 
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> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
> Tel: +243 993810967
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> 
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> Ambassadors>
> & Mexico
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> programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
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> winners>)*

From milton at gatech.edu  Thu Dec 20 16:50:50 2018
From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 21:50:50 +0000
Subject: [governance] The world has changed but we haven't.
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Hi, Ian,
Really appreciate your perspective, as you have the same long-term perspective dating to WSIS as I do.
But I do not agree that the term Internet Governance (IG) is no longer relevant. In fact, I think it is the glue that holds all those issues you mention together – just as it was 16-17 years ago. The concept of a mobilized global civil society has no meaning if we consider all of these issues distinct arenas where different organizations take independent action. We need to maintain a globalized, cross-sectional presence. IG as a concept and label does that. Of course various parties in CS will specialize in different areas, but the whole point of having IGC is to bring them all together.

Also, it’s not true that APC is the only active organization (I think this says more about your own distance from IG than it does about CS). We at IGP are more active than ever but we tend to focus on core areas of IG, such as ICANN and cybersecurity, that other CS organization’s don’t pay much attention to. I see lots of Article 19 over the past 3 years. Until Jeremy Malcolm departed ☹, EFF was more active in IG spaces than ever. AccessNow is also playing a leading role with RightsCon. Privacy organizations are extremely active, and NCSG (which combines many CS organizations) has gotten deeply involved in that due to the GDPR-ICANN nexus.

What’s lacking is a meeting place where those organizations can all trade ideas and coordinate strategy when possible. That’s why I support (as you do too, apparently) these efforts to revive IGC.


Dr. Milton Mueller
Professor, School of Public Policy
Georgia Institute of Technology

[IGP_logo_gold block_email sig]<http://www.internetgovernance.org/>



So let me begin by saying the term internet governance is becoming about as relevant as television governance. There is nothing generic left to do, but there are plenty of emerging issues around the internet where civil society needs to present a strong voice.
Apart from digital inclusion, big issues out there include privacy, human rights, media domination, cybersecurity, cyberwarfare, digital distortion etc: and they come up in separate discussions concerning internet of things, artificial intelligence etc as well as in political discussions on terrorism, national security and related subjects. Mostly these days these issues are addressed in separate fora by different groups: often governmental, but sometimes also involving the big dominant players (Google Facebook etc.) In most cases civil society presence is either absent or weak, and its not sensible to think that the same people can represent our interests in this wide range of activities.
So I think a new revived IGC would see its primary role as ensuring relevant groups and individual experts get involved in emerging fora looking at specific issues. Let eg Privacy International or Human Rights Watch be our representative when these issues come up: involve individual experts like Tim Wu and Bruce Schneier on issues such as media concentration and security:
Then I think we are getting towards a meaningful role and involvement where civil society involvement will be respected, and IGC could play a meaningful ongoing role that extends well beyond getting together annually at an IGF (if it continues).
Then there is what to do with CSCG. If, as I suggest, BB, JNC and IGC end up as one group again, What is the future of CSCG? Only APC remains as an active organisation at this stage. I think here thought needs to be given to outreach as well – if for instance there was an agreement that privacy and human rights were our two biggest issues, why not invite prominent civil society organisations in those areas to join in?
Anyway, something needs to be done in all these areas. People whose terms of office have ended have not been replaced because of the inertia. I think and hope someone can jump up and take a lead to get civil society working well in these areas. I see lots of excellent new voices who want to do this, and I encourage action!

Ian Peter (ex co-ordinator of IGC and also Chair of CSCG for a while way back then....)



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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Thu Dec  6 16:05:22 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 19:05:22 -0200
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting -
 thinking 2019 ahead.
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In terms of agenda, I guess we could add a little briefing on the past
events such as the FOC, IGF and PP-18. What do you think ?

Best,
Bruna

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> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:
> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of *farzaneh badii
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2018 3:24 PM
> *To:* Sheetal Kumar
> *Cc:* Michael Oghia; Arsène Tungali; Bruna Santos; Carolina Rossini;
> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt; governance
> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Civil Society Coordination Meeting
> - thinking 2019 ahead.
>
>
>
> Would Google Hang out work for everyone? If not I can provide the virtual
> room but it might not be available for some participants around the world.
>
>
>
> I suggest the following agenda:
>
>
>
> 1. What are the most important Internet governance issues that civil
> society should address throughout 2019.
>
> 2. What is the best way to address them? [issuing joint statements,
> issuing public comments, holding sessions etc, working with other
> stakeholders)
>
> 3. How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their functions and
> hold them accountable?
>
> 4. Merging BestBits and IGC?
>
> 5. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
> network.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 3:00 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> I'd like to add 'Bestbits Steering Committee - elections..To have or not
> to have' on the agenda.
>
>
>
> Best
>
> Sheetal.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 07:35, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> I can see if we can use our Zoom account. @Bruna – will you create an
> agenda, or should we do it collaboratively?
>
>
> Best,
> -Michael
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:56 AM Arsène Tungali <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Bruna, all
>
>
>
> Thanks for starting this thread and thanks everyone for their
> contributions so far. My apologies as I can only join the discussion now.
>
>
>
> It is great that we have a scheduled meeting and i really look forward to
> it. I would encourage us all to contribute to the agenda setting and plan
> on joining the call. Unfortunately, I could not join you all in Paris and
> missed all different CS gatherings.
>
>
>
> I would like to suggest an agenda item for the upcoming meeting : “Mapping
> of different existing initiatives and list civil society appointed
> representatives there. How can we better support them?”
>
>
>
> The idea here is for us to start a google doc (before the meeting) where
> we list various initiatives/mechanisms such as the HLPDC, IGF MAG, etc and
> identify appointed CS representatives and then discuss how we can best
> support them, amplifying their voice and ensuring they receive and channel
> our contributions/inputs.
>
>
>
> During the meeting on Dec 13, we can make sure we invite them to join the
> call and encourage at least one of them to share on the latest developments
> in their group and suggest ways the broader CS groups can support them.
>
>
>
> I am happy to facilitate this item on the agenda if given the opportunity
> to do so and should we decide to have it on the meeting agenda.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Arsene
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 05 Dec 2018, at 17:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance Mailing
> List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Thanks to all who answered to the poll and thread. I have just closed the
> poll and t*he selected date for the meeting is Dec 13th, at 16h00 UTC*.
>
> Please feel free to suggest agenda items and If anyone would like to help
> facilitating the meeting, just let me know!
>
>
>
> best,
> Bruna
>
>
>
> Em qua, 5 de dez de 2018 às 12:58, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> escreveu:
>
> I've also filled out the doodle, thanks Bruna!
>
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 15:17, Carolina Rossini <carolina.rossini at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need for a
> Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few opportunities we had
> to meet while in Paris.
>
>
>
> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss Civil
> Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS
> Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a
> possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>
>
>
> For that I have set up this doodle
> <https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested time slots on
> the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel free to suggest
> agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date and time of your
> preference - *and also to share it widely*.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> --
>
> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>
>
>
> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>
> @boomartins
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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne?= Tungali (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 00:12:28 +0200
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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Milton, i think i tried to explain why i was suggesting that. Sorry if that was not clear. The reason is simple: we agreed to take time to discuss the merger issue within the two groups separately. So, if we Cc both lists that means to me we are not doing separately anymore. That’s my understanding and i may be wrong.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Dec 2018, at 23:32, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu> wrote:
> 
> Why segregate the discussions, Arsene? 
> I don't understand that. It merely perpetuates the problem of a fragmented and uncoordinated civil society!
> 
> --MM
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: governance-request at lists.riseup.net [mailto:governance-
>> request at lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of Arsène Tungali
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:32 AM
>> To: Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> Cc: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>;
>> governance <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>> Subject: Re: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
>> 
>> Farzaneh, all,
>> 
>> While we are still discussing and I do appreciate the discussion, may I please
>> suggest we keep discussions separate in each specific group?
>> As I said in my original email, the issue of a merger should be discussed
>> SEPARATELY at the IGC and Best Bits lists.
>> 
>> Each group needs to have an internal discussion.
>> 
>> So, please do not Cc both groups when communicating. Some members are
>> on both lists and have posting rights on both but others don't, this may lead
>> to having fragmented pieces of emails when everyone is responding.
>> 
>> Hope this makes sense.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Arsene
>> 
>> 2018-12-17 23:33 UTC+02:00, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>>> Thanks Arsene.
>>> 
>>> We need to decide on merging IGC and BestBits. The suggestion comes
>>> from the fact that we have not been active much during the past year.
>>> Also fragmented efforts are a strain on resources. Having multiple
>>> elections and multiple groups to coordinate (with really minimal
>>> differences) and then not be active at all for a year is not really
>> recommendable.
>>> 
>>> De told us that apparently there is some kind of consensus method if I
>>> am not mistaken. De, is there a documented approach?
>>> 
>>> I think the most important is to discuss why BestBits was created and
>>> whether the reasons still stand and how BestBits members feel about
>>> the merge. Maybe the ones with strong objections can be convinced,
>> maybe not.
>>> Lets have the conversation. If we do not see a strong objection
>>> (multiple organizations, individuals object and give reasons as to why
>>> BestBits should remain even if dormant), then we can decide on the
>>> merge. If there are strong objections, then we will not go with the merge.
>>> 
>>> From what I see from BestBits website, the following individuals are
>>> at the steering committee of BestBits:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   - Nighat Dad
>>>   - Poncelet Ileleji
>>>   - Renata Ribeiro
>>>   - Dave Burstein
>>>   - Imran Ahmed Shah [second term of election]
>>>   - Antonella Perini [co-opted by committee]
>>> 
>>> Besbits CSCG Representatives
>>> 
>>>   - Claudio Lucena Neto (2018-2019)
>>>   - Sheetal Kumar (2017-2018)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Does this list still stand? Do  the steering committee members of
>>> BestBits and the reps on CSCG would like to weigh in?
>>> 
>>> I know Sheetal was on the call. Would be good to hear from others.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Farzaneh
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 9:00 AM Arsène Tungali
>>> <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
>>>> it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
>>>> Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
>>>> hear from you on this important question.
>>>> 
>>>> This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
>>>> society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
>>>> whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
>>>> week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
>>>> 
>>>> I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
>>>> anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
>>>> should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
>>>> how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
>>>> BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
>>>> group where members of both groups will all be added?
>>>> 
>>>> This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
>>>> (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
>>>> hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
>>>> share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
>>>> the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
>>>> 
>>>> I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
>>>> this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
>>>> consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
>>>> them what they think?
>>>> 
>>>> During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by
>>>> mid-January and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season.
>>>> We will then report to the group.
>>>> 
>>>> I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
>>>> discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Arsene
>>>> ---
>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> ------------------------
>> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>* Co-Founder &
>> Executive Director, *Rudi international <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
>> Tel: +243 993810967
>> GPG: 523644A0
>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>> 
>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>> <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-
>> washington.html>
>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-
>> programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-
>> Ambassadors>
>> & Mexico
>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-
>> programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
>> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
>> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC
>> Fellow ( Mauritius
>> <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-
>> winners>)*

From ian.peter at ianpeter.com  Thu Dec 20 21:44:35 2018
From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 02:44:35 +0000
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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Hi Arsene,

Mergers are difficult and imagine that both sides are going to have to 
change structurally so that they can work together. Both organisations 
have working rules and practices, changing both sets will be complex and 
I think unnecessary.

My opinion is that, in this case, BB should just decide to fold - and in 
doing so, encourage its members to join IGC if they are not already 
involved.

That's a lot simpler and leaves IGC intact and continuing as an umbrella 
groups for civil society involvement in internet governance.

(Best Bits copied in). Just suggesting this because I think it is a lot 
easier.

Ian Peter

------ Original Message ------
From: "Arsène Tungali" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
To: "Mueller, Milton L" <milton at gatech.edu>
Cc: "Farzaneh Badiei" <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>; 
"governance at lists.riseup.net" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
Sent: 21/12/2018 9:12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits

>Milton, i think i tried to explain why i was suggesting that. Sorry if that was not clear. The reason is simple: we agreed to take time to discuss the merger issue within the two groups separately. So, if we Cc both lists that means to me we are not doing separately anymore. That’s my understanding and i may be wrong.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>>  On 20 Dec 2018, at 23:32, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu> wrote:
>>
>>  Why segregate the discussions, Arsene?
>>  I don't understand that. It merely perpetuates the problem of a fragmented and uncoordinated civil society!
>>
>>  --MM
>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: governance-request at lists.riseup.net [mailto:governance-
>>>request at lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of Arsène Tungali
>>>  Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:32 AM
>>>  To: Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>  Cc: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>;
>>>  governance <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>>>  Subject: Re: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
>>>
>>>  Farzaneh, all,
>>>
>>>  While we are still discussing and I do appreciate the discussion, may I please
>>>  suggest we keep discussions separate in each specific group?
>>>  As I said in my original email, the issue of a merger should be discussed
>>>  SEPARATELY at the IGC and Best Bits lists.
>>>
>>>  Each group needs to have an internal discussion.
>>>
>>>  So, please do not Cc both groups when communicating. Some members are
>>>  on both lists and have posting rights on both but others don't, this may lead
>>>  to having fragmented pieces of emails when everyone is responding.
>>>
>>>  Hope this makes sense.
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>>  Arsene
>>>
>>>  2018-12-17 23:33 UTC+02:00, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>>>>  Thanks Arsene.
>>>>
>>>>  We need to decide on merging IGC and BestBits. The suggestion comes
>>>>  from the fact that we have not been active much during the past year.
>>>>  Also fragmented efforts are a strain on resources. Having multiple
>>>>  elections and multiple groups to coordinate (with really minimal
>>>>  differences) and then not be active at all for a year is not really
>>>  recommendable.
>>>>
>>>>  De told us that apparently there is some kind of consensus method if I
>>>>  am not mistaken. De, is there a documented approach?
>>>>
>>>>  I think the most important is to discuss why BestBits was created and
>>>>  whether the reasons still stand and how BestBits members feel about
>>>>  the merge. Maybe the ones with strong objections can be convinced,
>>>  maybe not.
>>>>  Lets have the conversation. If we do not see a strong objection
>>>>  (multiple organizations, individuals object and give reasons as to why
>>>>  BestBits should remain even if dormant), then we can decide on the
>>>>  merge. If there are strong objections, then we will not go with the merge.
>>>>
>>>>  From what I see from BestBits website, the following individuals are
>>>>  at the steering committee of BestBits:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - Nighat Dad
>>>>    - Poncelet Ileleji
>>>>    - Renata Ribeiro
>>>>    - Dave Burstein
>>>>    - Imran Ahmed Shah [second term of election]
>>>>    - Antonella Perini [co-opted by committee]
>>>>
>>>>  Besbits CSCG Representatives
>>>>
>>>>    - Claudio Lucena Neto (2018-2019)
>>>>    - Sheetal Kumar (2017-2018)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Does this list still stand? Do  the steering committee members of
>>>>  BestBits and the reps on CSCG would like to weigh in?
>>>>
>>>>  I know Sheetal was on the call. Would be good to hear from others.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Farzaneh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 9:00 AM Arsène Tungali
>>>>  <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>  You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
>>>>>  it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
>>>>>  Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
>>>>>  hear from you on this important question.
>>>>>
>>>>>  This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
>>>>>  society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
>>>>>  whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
>>>>>  week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
>>>>>  anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
>>>>>  should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
>>>>>  how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
>>>>>  BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
>>>>>  group where members of both groups will all be added?
>>>>>
>>>>>  This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
>>>>>  (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
>>>>>  hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
>>>>>  share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
>>>>>  the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
>>>>>
>>>>>  I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
>>>>>  this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
>>>>>  consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
>>>>>  them what they think?
>>>>>
>>>>>  During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by
>>>>>  mid-January and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season.
>>>>>  We will then report to the group.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
>>>>>  discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Best regards,
>>>>>  Arsene
>>>>>  ---
>>>>>  To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>>  List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>>>  ------------------------
>>>  **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>* Co-Founder &
>>>  Executive Director, *Rudi international <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
>>>  CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
>>>  Tel: +243 993810967
>>>  GPG: 523644A0
>>>  *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>>>
>>>  2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>>>  <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-
>>>  washington.html>
>>>  (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>>>  <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-
>>>  programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-
>>>  Ambassadors>
>>>  & Mexico
>>>  <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-
>>>  programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
>>>  - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
>>>  <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
>>>  <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC
>>>  Fellow ( Mauritius
>>>  <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-
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From ian.peter at ianpeter.com  Thu Dec 20 21:50:49 2018
From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 02:50:49 +0000
Subject: [governance] The world has changed but we haven't.
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Thanks Milton,

Just to clarify:

The context in which I was talking about APC was specifically as regards 
the groups who are members of CSCG. Of these 5 groups, only APC (and as 
Dave Cake pointed out NCSG of ICANN) appear to be particularly active at 
this point of time. I don't for one minute suggest they are the only 
active civil society groups in this space - there are of course many!

I take your point as regards the term internet governance. If it 
encourages civil society groups to work together, that's fine, despite 
its peculiarities.

Ian

------ Original Message ------
From: "Mueller, Milton L" <milton at gatech.edu>
To: "ian.peter at ianpeter.com" <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>; "governance" 
<governance at lists.riseup.net>
Sent: 21/12/2018 8:50:50 AM
Subject: RE: [governance] The world has changed but we haven't.

>Hi, Ian,
>
>Really appreciate your perspective, as you have the same long-term 
>perspective dating to WSIS as I do.
>
>But I do not agree that the term Internet Governance (IG) is no longer 
>relevant. In fact, I think it is the glue that holds all those issues 
>you mention together – just as it was 16-17 years ago. The concept of a 
>mobilized global civil society has no meaning if we consider all of 
>these issues distinct arenas where different organizations take 
>independent action. We need to maintain a globalized, cross-sectional 
>presence. IG as a concept and label does that. Of course various 
>parties in CS will specialize in different areas, but the whole point 
>of having IGC is to bring them all together.
>
>
>
>Also, it’s not true that APC is the only active organization (I think 
>this says more about your own distance from IG than it does about CS). 
>We at IGP are more active than ever but we tend to focus on core areas 
>of IG, such as ICANN and cybersecurity, that other CS organization’s 
>don’t pay much attention to. I see lots of Article 19 over the past 3 
>years. Until Jeremy Malcolm departed L, EFF was more active in IG 
>spaces than ever. AccessNow is also playing a leading role with 
>RightsCon. Privacy organizations are extremely active, and NCSG (which 
>combines many CS organizations) has gotten deeply involved in that due 
>to the GDPR-ICANN nexus.
>
>
>
>What’s lacking is a meeting place where those organizations can all 
>trade ideas and coordinate strategy when possible. That’s why I support 
>(as you do too, apparently) these efforts to revive IGC.
>
>
>
>
>
>Dr. Milton Mueller
>
>Professor, School of Public Policy
>
>Georgia Institute of Technology
>
>
>
>IGP_logo_gold block_email sig
><http://www.internetgovernance.org/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>So let me begin by saying the term internet governance is becoming 
>about as relevant as television governance. There is nothing generic 
>left to do, but there are plenty of emerging issues around the internet 
>where civil society needs to present a strong voice.
>
>Apart from digital inclusion, big issues out there include privacy, 
>human rights, media domination, cybersecurity, cyberwarfare, digital 
>distortion etc: and they come up in separate discussions concerning 
>internet of things, artificial intelligence etc as well as in political 
>discussions on terrorism, national security and related subjects. 
>Mostly these days these issues are addressed in separate fora by 
>different groups: often governmental, but sometimes also involving the 
>big dominant players (Google Facebook etc.) In most cases civil society 
>presence is either absent or weak, and its not sensible to think that 
>the same people can represent our interests in this wide range of 
>activities.
>
>So I think a new revived IGC would see its primary role as ensuring 
>relevant groups and individual experts get involved in emerging fora 
>looking at specific issues. Let eg Privacy International or Human 
>Rights Watch be our representative when these issues come up: involve 
>individual experts like Tim Wu and Bruce Schneier on issues such as 
>media concentration and security:
>
>Then I think we are getting towards a meaningful role and involvement 
>where civil society involvement will be respected, and IGC could play a 
>meaningful ongoing role that extends well beyond getting together 
>annually at an IGF (if it continues).
>
>Then there is what to do with CSCG. If, as I suggest, BB, JNC and IGC 
>end up as one group again, What is the future of CSCG? Only APC remains 
>as an active organisation at this stage. I think here thought needs to 
>be given to outreach as well – if for instance there was an agreement 
>that privacy and human rights were our two biggest issues, why not 
>invite prominent civil society organisations in those areas to join in?
>
>Anyway, something needs to be done in all these areas. People whose 
>terms of office have ended have not been replaced because of the 
>inertia. I think and hope someone can jump up and take a lead to get 
>civil society working well in these areas. I see lots of excellent new 
>voices who want to do this, and I encourage action!
>
>
>
>Ian Peter (ex co-ordinator of IGC and also Chair of CSCG for a while 
>way back then....)
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From iza at anr.org  Thu Dec 20 22:04:15 2018
From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 12:04:15 +0900
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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Dear all,
Sorry for my long-time silence.
As a past co-co of IGC, I feel a little compelled to put my thoughts here.

Honestly, I kind of reduced my personal interests around Internet
Governance issues, due to several factors.
I don't mean they are not important, but I see my very limited capacity to
affect, say, unlike 10-15 years ago, both global, national (in Japan), and
regional (in Asia Pacific).

As for the merger issue, first of all, thank you Arsene for bringing this
topic up.
I am more inclined to agree with Ian's suggestion. However, in this case,
it is up to BB members, not IGC, strictly speaking. I am also a member of
BB and would like to see how BB members think of this.

izumi










2018年12月21日(金) 11:46 ian.peter at ianpeter.com <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>:

> Hi Arsene,
>
> Mergers are difficult and imagine that both sides are going to have to
> change structurally so that they can work together. Both organisations have
> working rules and practices, changing both sets will be complex and I think
> unnecessary.
>
> My opinion is that, in this case, BB should just decide to fold - and in
> doing so, encourage its members to join IGC if they are not already
> involved.
>
> That's a lot simpler and leaves IGC intact and continuing as an umbrella
> groups for civil society involvement in internet governance.
>
> (Best Bits copied in). Just suggesting this because I think it is a lot
> easier.
>
> Ian Peter
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Arsène Tungali" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> To: "Mueller, Milton L" <milton at gatech.edu>
> Cc: "Farzaneh Badiei" <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>; "
> governance at lists.riseup.net" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> Sent: 21/12/2018 9:12:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
>
> Milton, i think i tried to explain why i was suggesting that. Sorry if
> that was not clear. The reason is simple: we agreed to take time to discuss
> the merger issue within the two groups separately. So, if we Cc both lists
> that means to me we are not doing separately anymore. That’s my
> understanding and i may be wrong.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 20 Dec 2018, at 23:32, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu> wrote:
>
> Why segregate the discussions, Arsene?
> I don't understand that. It merely perpetuates the problem of a fragmented
> and uncoordinated civil society!
>
> --MM
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance-request at lists.riseup.net [mailto:governance-
> request at lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of Arsène Tungali
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:32 AM
> To: Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> Cc: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>;
> governance <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> Subject: Re: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
>
> Farzaneh, all,
>
> While we are still discussing and I do appreciate the discussion, may I
> please
> suggest we keep discussions separate in each specific group?
> As I said in my original email, the issue of a merger should be discussed
> SEPARATELY at the IGC and Best Bits lists.
>
> Each group needs to have an internal discussion.
>
> So, please do not Cc both groups when communicating. Some members are
> on both lists and have posting rights on both but others don't, this may
> lead
> to having fragmented pieces of emails when everyone is responding.
>
> Hope this makes sense.
>
> Thanks,
> Arsene
>
> 2018-12-17 23:33 UTC+02:00, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>
> Thanks Arsene.
>
> We need to decide on merging IGC and BestBits. The suggestion comes
> from the fact that we have not been active much during the past year.
> Also fragmented efforts are a strain on resources. Having multiple
> elections and multiple groups to coordinate (with really minimal
> differences) and then not be active at all for a year is not really
>
> recommendable.
>
>
> De told us that apparently there is some kind of consensus method if I
> am not mistaken. De, is there a documented approach?
>
> I think the most important is to discuss why BestBits was created and
> whether the reasons still stand and how BestBits members feel about
> the merge. Maybe the ones with strong objections can be convinced,
>
> maybe not.
>
> Lets have the conversation. If we do not see a strong objection
> (multiple organizations, individuals object and give reasons as to why
> BestBits should remain even if dormant), then we can decide on the
> merge. If there are strong objections, then we will not go with the merge.
>
> From what I see from BestBits website, the following individuals are
> at the steering committee of BestBits:
>
>
> - Nighat Dad
> - Poncelet Ileleji
> - Renata Ribeiro
> - Dave Burstein
> - Imran Ahmed Shah [second term of election]
> - Antonella Perini [co-opted by committee]
>
> Besbits CSCG Representatives
>
> - Claudio Lucena Neto (2018-2019)
> - Sheetal Kumar (2017-2018)
>
>
> Does this list still stand? Do the steering committee members of
> BestBits and the reps on CSCG would like to weigh in?
>
> I know Sheetal was on the call. Would be good to hear from others.
>
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 9:00 AM Arsène Tungali
> <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
> it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
> Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
> hear from you on this important question.
>
> This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
> society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
> whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
> week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
>
> I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
> anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
> should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
> how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
> BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
> group where members of both groups will all be added?
>
> This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
> (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
> hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
> share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
> the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
>
> I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
> this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
> consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
> them what they think?
>
> During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by
> mid-January and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season.
> We will then report to the group.
>
> I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
> discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
>
> Best regards,
> Arsene
> ---
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ------------------------
> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>* Co-Founder &
> Executive Director, *Rudi international <http://www.rudiinternational.org
> >*,
> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
> Tel: +243 993810967
> GPG: 523644A0
> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>
> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
> <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-
> washington.html>
> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-
> programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-
> Ambassadors>
> & Mexico
> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-
> programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC
> Fellow ( Mauritius
> <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-
> winners>)*
>
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From: governance at lists.riseup.net (sivasubramanian muthusamy (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 09:06:04 +0530
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 8:16 AM ian.peter at ianpeter.com <
ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:

> Hi Arsene,
>
> Mergers are difficult and imagine that both sides
>

Are there two sides, two groups really?  There have been been differences,
as naturally occur, perhaps one or two vocal discussions with noticeable
differences, but why see two sides ?  If BB folds into IGC, IGC may not be
one one 'side', but be an Umbrella for multiple civil society participants
to bring multiple views to the same table so as to find common positions
wherever and whenever possible, to be taken to larger fora as Civil Society
position on various IG issues.

Sivasubramanian M


> are going to have to change structurally so that they can work together.
> Both organisations have working rules and practices, changing both sets
> will be complex and I think unnecessary.
>
> My opinion is that, in this case, BB should just decide to fold - and in
> doing so, encourage its members to join IGC if they are not already
> involved.
>
> That's a lot simpler and leaves IGC intact and continuing as an umbrella
> groups for civil society involvement in internet governance.
>
> (Best Bits copied in). Just suggesting this because I think it is a lot
> easier.
>
> Ian Peter
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Arsène Tungali" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> To: "Mueller, Milton L" <milton at gatech.edu>
> Cc: "Farzaneh Badiei" <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>; "
> governance at lists.riseup.net" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> Sent: 21/12/2018 9:12:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
>
> Milton, i think i tried to explain why i was suggesting that. Sorry if
> that was not clear. The reason is simple: we agreed to take time to discuss
> the merger issue within the two groups separately. So, if we Cc both lists
> that means to me we are not doing separately anymore. That’s my
> understanding and i may be wrong.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 20 Dec 2018, at 23:32, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu> wrote:
>
> Why segregate the discussions, Arsene?
> I don't understand that. It merely perpetuates the problem of a fragmented
> and uncoordinated civil society!
>
> --MM
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance-request at lists.riseup.net [mailto:governance-
> request at lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of Arsène Tungali
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:32 AM
> To: Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> Cc: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>;
> governance <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> Subject: Re: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
>
> Farzaneh, all,
>
> While we are still discussing and I do appreciate the discussion, may I
> please
> suggest we keep discussions separate in each specific group?
> As I said in my original email, the issue of a merger should be discussed
> SEPARATELY at the IGC and Best Bits lists.
>
> Each group needs to have an internal discussion.
>
> So, please do not Cc both groups when communicating. Some members are
> on both lists and have posting rights on both but others don't, this may
> lead
> to having fragmented pieces of emails when everyone is responding.
>
> Hope this makes sense.
>
> Thanks,
> Arsene
>
> 2018-12-17 23:33 UTC+02:00, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>
> Thanks Arsene.
>
> We need to decide on merging IGC and BestBits. The suggestion comes
> from the fact that we have not been active much during the past year.
> Also fragmented efforts are a strain on resources. Having multiple
> elections and multiple groups to coordinate (with really minimal
> differences) and then not be active at all for a year is not really
>
> recommendable.
>
>
> De told us that apparently there is some kind of consensus method if I
> am not mistaken. De, is there a documented approach?
>
> I think the most important is to discuss why BestBits was created and
> whether the reasons still stand and how BestBits members feel about
> the merge. Maybe the ones with strong objections can be convinced,
>
> maybe not.
>
> Lets have the conversation. If we do not see a strong objection
> (multiple organizations, individuals object and give reasons as to why
> BestBits should remain even if dormant), then we can decide on the
> merge. If there are strong objections, then we will not go with the merge.
>
> From what I see from BestBits website, the following individuals are
> at the steering committee of BestBits:
>
>
> - Nighat Dad
> - Poncelet Ileleji
> - Renata Ribeiro
> - Dave Burstein
> - Imran Ahmed Shah [second term of election]
> - Antonella Perini [co-opted by committee]
>
> Besbits CSCG Representatives
>
> - Claudio Lucena Neto (2018-2019)
> - Sheetal Kumar (2017-2018)
>
>
> Does this list still stand? Do the steering committee members of
> BestBits and the reps on CSCG would like to weigh in?
>
> I know Sheetal was on the call. Would be good to hear from others.
>
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 9:00 AM Arsène Tungali
> <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
> it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
> Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
> hear from you on this important question.
>
> This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
> society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
> whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
> week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
>
> I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
> anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
> should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
> how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
> BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
> group where members of both groups will all be added?
>
> This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
> (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
> hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
> share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
> the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
>
> I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
> this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
> consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
> them what they think?
>
> During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by
> mid-January and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season.
> We will then report to the group.
>
> I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
> discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
>
> Best regards,
> Arsene
> ---
> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ------------------------
> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>* Co-Founder &
> Executive Director, *Rudi international <http://www.rudiinternational.org
> >*,
> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
> Tel: +243 993810967
> GPG: 523644A0
> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>
> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
> <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-
> washington.html>
> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-
> programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-
> Ambassadors>
> & Mexico
> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-
> programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC
> Fellow ( Mauritius
> <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-
> winners>)*
>
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:07:19 +0100
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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I do agree with Milton about the “new” IGC.
Any method leading to one group for the Internet Governance Civil Society members is in my opinion good.

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> Le 20 déc. 2018 à 22:30, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu> a écrit :
> 
> I am feeling very old reading these messages ;-)
>  
> To me it is obvious that IGC, BB and CSGC are all outgrowths of WSIS civil society, which started around 2001. What became IGC started as the mailing list of WSIS civil society. 
>  
> Why not consider the merged or combined entity to be the “new” IGC? BB barely exists anymore, and it emerged as an outgrowth of IGC in reality. There is no need to turn our back on the long history of WSIS civil society while at the same time reorganizing in a way that recognizes the contribution of BB and makes us more effective.
>  
> What should be clear to everyone is that the current arrangement is no longer effective and something needs to be changed.
>  
> I also believe that the current structure of CSCG is an arbitrary historical artifact and should not constrain what we do now. I do agree with Bruna, however, that restructuring CSGC representation should be step two. Let’s get IGC’s house in order first.
>  
>  
> Dr. Milton Mueller
> Professor, School of Public Policy
> Georgia Institute of Technology
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: governance-request at lists.riseup.net <mailto:governance-request at lists.riseup.net> [mailto:governance-request at lists.riseup.net <mailto:governance-request at lists.riseup.net>] On Behalf Of Bruna Martins dos Santos
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 2:11 PM
> To: Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com>>; Nadira Araj <nadira.araj at gmail.com <mailto:nadira.araj at gmail.com>>
> Cc: Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com <mailto:arsenebaguma at gmail.com>>; governance <governance at lists.riseup.net <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>>
> Subject: Re: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
>  
> Dear All, 
>  
> Thanks Arsène for kicking off the discussion here on IGC. 
>  
> When the merger discussion was brought up, some of the attendees agreed that the "The historical moment that required the separation of IGC and Best bits is long gone and that the merger would be interesting due to the limited volunteering time and resources available for managing both groups". Therefore, while I dont yet have a personal opinion with regards to the merger, I believe that it could result in a stronger and (even) more active CS caucus/coordination group. 
> 
> I guess it is safe to say that we all acknowledge the importance of both groups, as well as their legacy. And with IGC being the first Civil Society gatherings having started back in 2003 (in the early stages of the WSIS process) I would not be pleased with a merger that did not bear in mind the importance of the statements issued in the past or even the importance of groups such as ours in strengthening Civil Society participation. 
>  
> At the same time, we have to consider that this list is no longer as active as it once was and that our website <http://www.igcaucus.org/> is no longer functional and some other things that were lost in the transition. So the merger suggestion comes in light of the future discussions and coordinations that could be generated within a joint/stronger group. 
>  
> Having said that, I agree that we could come up with a draft merger proposal, as suggested by @Nadira Araj <mailto:nadira.araj at gmail.com>. If we agree on this new group, there might be a need for discussions around structure - best bits has a steering committee while Best Bits has only two co-coordinators - and a new institutional mandate. With regards to the CSCG, Best Bits and IGC are 2 of the 5 CS groups represented there, but Id say that the CSCG composition and the discussions about representation there should be discussed in a second moment. 
>  
> But I would also like to hear more from the list on this subject. 
>  
> Best regards, 
> Bruna Santos 
>  
> Em seg, 17 de dez de 2018 às 16:54, Akinremi Peter Taiwo <governance at lists.riseup.net <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>> escreveu:
> Thanks Arsene for sharing your thought. I could not attend the call because of my engagement during the ecommerce week in Nairobi. 
>  
> I would say that we don't rush into this merging of IGC and Bestbit without first clarifying questions such as the purpose of existence and whether the merging will translate automatically to the group active participation. It would be good to conduct an assessment that will lead to a reliable recommendations.
>  
> With that in mind, how would that affect the structure of CSCG and expanding it scope to accommodate more civil society organization.
>  
> Regards
> Peter.
>  
> Regards.
>  
>  
>  
> 
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 3:00 PM Arsène Tungali <governance at lists.riseup.net <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
> it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
> Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
> hear from you on this important question.
> 
> This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
> society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
> whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
> week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
> 
> I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
> anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
> should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
> how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
> BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
> group where members of both groups will all be added?
> 
> This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
> (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
> hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
> share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
> the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
> 
> I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
> this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
> consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
> them what they think?
> 
> During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by mid-January
> and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season. We will then
> report to the group.
> 
> I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
> discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.
> 
> Best regards,
> Arsene
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Fri Dec 21 07:44:40 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne?= Tungali (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 14:44:40 +0200
Subject: [governance] GF 2019 Call for issues
Message-ID: <CABDXvWo-CVvBB7zs_axecEx3ND1v9akfa6D_T1xg3U8-3utvFw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

Please note the Call bellow.

Regards,
Arsene

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Chengetai Masango <chengetai.masango at un.org>

Dear All,

As discussed in the  virtual meeting the  Secretariat has now
published the IGF2019 call for issues at :
https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2019-call-for-issues
 the deadline is 24 January 2019.

This call asks IGF  stakeholders across the world to indicate what
Internet Governance issues are of high interest or importance to them.
These will act as an input to our first face to face meeting in
January and help inform the topics of the IGF2019 programme.

I would be grateful if you could distribute this information among
your respective networks.

Best regards,

Chengetai

From kstubbs at afilias.info  Fri Dec 21 07:50:16 2018
From: kstubbs at afilias.info (Ken Stubbs)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 07:50:16 -0500
Subject: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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+1 Milton

Ken Stubbs

On 12/20/18 16:30, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
>
> I am feeling very old reading these messages ;-)
>
> To me it is obvious that IGC, BB and CSGC are all outgrowths of WSIS 
> civil society, which started around 2001. What became IGC started as 
> the mailing list of WSIS civil society.
>
> Why not consider the merged or combined entity to be the “new” IGC? BB 
> barely exists anymore, and it emerged as an outgrowth of IGC in 
> reality. There is no need to turn our back on the long history of WSIS 
> civil society while at the same time reorganizing in a way that 
> recognizes the contribution of BB and makes us more effective.
>
> What should be clear to everyone is that the current arrangement is no 
> longer effective and something needs to be changed.
>
> I also believe that the current structure of CSCG is an arbitrary 
> historical artifact and should not constrain what we do now. I do 
> agree with Bruna, however, that restructuring CSGC representation 
> should be step two. Let’s get IGC’s house in order first.
>
> Dr. Milton Mueller
>
> Professor, School of Public Policy
>
> Georgia Institute of Technology
>
> *From:*governance-request at lists.riseup.net 
> [mailto:governance-request at lists.riseup.net] *On Behalf Of *Bruna 
> Martins dos Santos
> *Sent:* Monday, December 17, 2018 2:11 PM
> *To:* Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com>; Nadira Araj 
> <nadira.araj at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>; governance 
> <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
>
> Dear All,
>
> Thanks Arsène for kicking off the discussion here on IGC.
>
> When the merger discussion was brought up, some of the attendees 
> agreed that the /"The historical moment that required the separation 
> of IGC and Best bits is long gone and that the merger would be 
> interesting due to the limited volunteering time and resources 
> available for managing both groups". /Therefore, while I dont yet have 
> a personal opinion with regards to the merger, I believe that it could 
> result in a stronger and (even) more active CS caucus/coordination group.
>
> I guess it is safe to say that we all acknowledge the importance of 
> both groups, as well as their legacy. And with IGC being the first 
> Civil Society gatherings having started back in 2003 (in the early 
> stages of the WSIS process) I would not be pleased with a merger that 
> did not bear in mind the importance of the statements issued in the 
> past or even the importance of groups such as ours in strengthening 
> Civil Society participation.
>
> At the same time, we have to consider that this list is no longer as 
> active as it once was and that our website <http://www.igcaucus.org/> 
> is no longer functional and some other things that were lost in the 
> transition. So the merger suggestion comes in light of the future 
> discussions and coordinations that could be generated within a 
> joint/stronger group.
>
> Having said that, I agree that we could come up with a draft merger 
> proposal, as suggested by @Nadira Araj <mailto:nadira.araj at gmail.com>. 
> If we agree on this new group, there might be a need for discussions 
> around structure - best bits has a steering committee while Best Bits 
> has only two co-coordinators - and a new institutional mandate. With 
> regards to the CSCG, Best Bits and IGC are 2 of the 5 CS groups 
> represented there, but Id say that the CSCG composition and the 
> discussions about representation there should be discussed in a second 
> moment.
>
> But I would also like to hear more from the list on this subject.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bruna Santos
>
> Em seg, 17 de dez de 2018 às 16:54, Akinremi Peter Taiwo 
> <governance at lists.riseup.net <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>> 
> escreveu:
>
>     Thanks Arsene for sharing your thought. I could not attend the
>     call because of my engagement during the ecommerce week in Nairobi.
>
>     I would say that we don't rush into this merging of IGC and
>     Bestbit without first clarifying questions such as the purpose of
>     existence and whether the merging will translate automatically to
>     the group active participation. It would be good to conduct an
>     assessment that will lead to a reliable recommendations.
>
>     With that in mind, how would that affect the structure of CSCG and
>     expanding it scope to accommodate more civil society organization.
>
>     Regards
>
>     Peter.
>
>     Regards.
>
>     On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 3:00 PM Arsène Tungali
>     <governance at lists.riseup.net <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>
>     wrote:
>
>         Hi everyone,
>
>         You have probably seen this already on a different thread but
>         thought
>         it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I
>         expect
>         Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread
>         hoping to
>         hear from you on this important question.
>
>         This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a
>         civil
>         society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants;
>         many of
>         whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call
>         happened last
>         week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.
>
>         I will not go into much details about the rationale but would
>         welcome
>         anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
>         should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the
>         question on
>         how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to
>         become
>         BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a
>         different
>         group where members of both groups will all be added?
>
>         This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
>         (SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
>         hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel
>         safe to
>         share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into
>         account
>         the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).
>
>         I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this
>         question on
>         this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide?
>         Should we
>         consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately
>         and ask
>         them what they think?
>
>         During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by
>         mid-January
>         and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season. We
>         will then
>         report to the group.
>
>         I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
>         discussion that will help us move forward and come to a
>         conclusion.
>
>         Best regards,
>         Arsene
>         ---
>         To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>         <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>>
>         List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>
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>
> -- 
>
> */Bruna Martins dos Santos /*
>
> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>
> @boomartins
>
>
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From lmcknigh at syr.edu  Fri Dec 21 11:50:50 2018
From: lmcknigh at syr.edu (Lee W McKnight)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 16:50:50 +0000
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits
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Following on from Ian's point on merging versus re-integrating (which I agree with):


Why not, to show how welcome new/old-comers from Best Bits and/or Just Net Coalition are in helping reinvigorate IGC, we make clear that we (on governance list) hope one or more on other lists step up and run in the next IGC co-coordinator election?


And, that other folks whichever list they are on presently, and who are willing and able to actively engage, work to support/participate in the nomcom's etc. as may be called for in 2019.


And, that other folks willing and able to actively engage, plan to work to support/participate in drafting various responses and submissions as helpful to the wider cs community engaged in internet governance in 2019 and beyond?


Bottom line is the current division leaves us below critical mass of energy and focus.


But everyone is always welcome to come home! : )

________________________________
From: bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net <bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net> on behalf of ian.peter at ianpeter.com <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:44:35 PM
To: arsenebaguma at gmail.com; Mueller, Milton L
Cc: Farzaneh Badiei; governance at lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re[2]: [bestbits] [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits

Hi Arsene,

Mergers are difficult and imagine that both sides are going to have to change structurally so that they can work together. Both organisations have working rules and practices, changing both sets will be complex and I think unnecessary.

My opinion is that, in this case, BB should just decide to fold - and in doing so, encourage its members to join IGC if they are not already involved.

That's a lot simpler and leaves IGC intact and continuing as an umbrella groups for civil society involvement in internet governance.

(Best Bits copied in). Just suggesting this because I think it is a lot easier.

Ian Peter

------ Original Message ------
From: "Arsène Tungali" <governance at lists.riseup.net<mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>>
To: "Mueller, Milton L" <milton at gatech.edu<mailto:milton at gatech.edu>>
Cc: "Farzaneh Badiei" <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com<mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>; "governance at lists.riseup.net" <governance at lists.riseup.net<mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>>
Sent: 21/12/2018 9:12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits

Milton, i think i tried to explain why i was suggesting that. Sorry if that was not clear. The reason is simple: we agreed to take time to discuss the merger issue within the two groups separately. So, if we Cc both lists that means to me we are not doing separately anymore. That’s my understanding and i may be wrong.

Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Dec 2018, at 23:32, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu<mailto:milton at gatech.edu>> wrote:

Why segregate the discussions, Arsene?
I don't understand that. It merely perpetuates the problem of a fragmented and uncoordinated civil society!

--MM

-----Original Message-----
From: governance-request at lists.riseup.net<mailto:governance-request at lists.riseup.net> [mailto:governance-
request at lists.riseup.net<mailto:request at lists.riseup.net>] On Behalf Of Arsène Tungali
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:32 AM
To: Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com<mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>
Cc: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net<mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>&gt &lt <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net<mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>>;
governance <governance at lists.riseup.net<mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>>
Subject: Re: [governance] IMPORTANT : Merging IGC with Best Bits

Farzaneh, all,

While we are still discussing and I do appreciate the discussion, may I please
suggest we keep discussions separate in each specific group?
As I said in my original email, the issue of a merger should be discussed
SEPARATELY at the IGC and Best Bits lists.

Each group needs to have an internal discussion.

So, please do not Cc both groups when communicating. Some members are
on both lists and have posting rights on both but others don't, this may lead
to having fragmented pieces of emails when everyone is responding.

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks,
Arsene

2018-12-17 23:33 UTC+02:00, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com<mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>:
Thanks Arsene.

We need to decide on merging IGC and BestBits. The suggestion comes
from the fact that we have not been active much during the past year.
Also fragmented efforts are a strain on resources. Having multiple
elections and multiple groups to coordinate (with really minimal
differences) and then not be active at all for a year is not really
recommendable.

De told us that apparently there is some kind of consensus method if I
am not mistaken. De, is there a documented approach?

I think the most important is to discuss why BestBits was created and
whether the reasons still stand and how BestBits members feel about
the merge. Maybe the ones with strong objections can be convinced,
maybe not.
Lets have the conversation. If we do not see a strong objection
(multiple organizations, individuals object and give reasons as to why
BestBits should remain even if dormant), then we can decide on the
merge. If there are strong objections, then we will not go with the merge.

From what I see from BestBits website, the following individuals are
at the steering committee of BestBits:


- Nighat Dad
- Poncelet Ileleji
- Renata Ribeiro
- Dave Burstein
- Imran Ahmed Shah [second term of election]
- Antonella Perini [co-opted by committee]

Besbits CSCG Representatives

- Claudio Lucena Neto (2018-2019)
- Sheetal Kumar (2017-2018)


Does this list still stand? Do the steering committee members of
BestBits and the reps on CSCG would like to weigh in?

I know Sheetal was on the call. Would be good to hear from others.





Farzaneh


On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 9:00 AM Arsène Tungali
<governance at lists.riseup.net<mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>>
wrote:

Hi everyone,

You have probably seen this already on a different thread but thought
it well to have this discussion solely on the IGC list (as I expect
Best Bits to do the same), that's why i started this thread hoping to
hear from you on this important question.

This need for merging was raised by some IGC members during a civil
society call that had mostly IGC and Best Bits participants; many of
whom are both IGC and Best Bits (BB) members. The call happened last
week and Farzaneh offered to share the link to the recording.

I will not go into much details about the rationale but would welcome
anyone to weigh in and share their reasoning on whether or not we
should merge both lists. We will need to also answer the question on
how (who is doing what?) will this happen? Is the IGC going to become
BB or the latter becoming IGC? Or are we working towards a different
group where members of both groups will all be added?

This brings back to my memory the whole hassle we had to migrate
(SAVE?) this list and allow us to have this discussion list (which
hasn't been quite active for a few months but where many feel safe to
share IG related updates). So i hope we discuss and take into account
the technical cost of the merging process (should it happen).

I am also not sure how we will gauge consensus about this question on
this list? Should we vote? How long do we take to decide? Should we
consult IGC 'founders' or former Co-coordinators separately and ask
them what they think?

During the call, Bruna and I offered to have a decision by
mid-January and we hope this is realistic given the holiday season.
We will then report to the group.

I just wanted to throw this all here and would REALLY appreciate a
discussion that will help us move forward and come to a conclusion.

Best regards,
Arsene
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Executive Director, *Rudi international <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
Tel: +243 993810967
GPG: 523644A0
*Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*

2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
<http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-
washington.html>
(YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
<http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-
programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-
Ambassadors>
& Mexico
<http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-
programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
- AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
<http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
<https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC
Fellow ( Mauritius
<http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-
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From milton at gatech.edu  Fri Dec 21 16:53:33 2018
From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 21:53:33 +0000
Subject: [governance] The world has changed but we haven't.
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Ah, sorry for the misunderstanding! Yes, in CSCG I would guess that APC is the only active one now.

From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:51 PM
To: Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>; governance <governance at lists.riseup.net>
Subject: Re[2]: [governance] The world has changed but we haven't.

Thanks Milton,

Just to clarify:

The context in which I was talking about APC was specifically as regards the groups who are members of CSCG. Of these 5 groups, only APC (and as Dave Cake pointed out NCSG of ICANN) appear to be particularly active at this point of time. I don't for one minute suggest they are the only active civil society groups in this space - there are of course many!

I take your point as regards the term internet governance. If it encourages civil society groups to work together, that's fine, despite its peculiarities.

Ian

------ Original Message ------
From: "Mueller, Milton L" <milton at gatech.edu<mailto:milton at gatech.edu>>
To: "ian.peter at ianpeter.com<mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com>" <ian.peter at ianpeter.com<mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com>>; "governance" <governance at lists.riseup.net<mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>>
Sent: 21/12/2018 8:50:50 AM
Subject: RE: [governance] The world has changed but we haven't.

Hi, Ian,
Really appreciate your perspective, as you have the same long-term perspective dating to WSIS as I do.
But I do not agree that the term Internet Governance (IG) is no longer relevant. In fact, I think it is the glue that holds all those issues you mention together – just as it was 16-17 years ago. The concept of a mobilized global civil society has no meaning if we consider all of these issues distinct arenas where different organizations take independent action. We need to maintain a globalized, cross-sectional presence. IG as a concept and label does that. Of course various parties in CS will specialize in different areas, but the whole point of having IGC is to bring them all together.

Also, it’s not true that APC is the only active organization (I think this says more about your own distance from IG than it does about CS). We at IGP are more active than ever but we tend to focus on core areas of IG, such as ICANN and cybersecurity, that other CS organization’s don’t pay much attention to. I see lots of Article 19 over the past 3 years. Until Jeremy Malcolm departed ☹, EFF was more active in IG spaces than ever. AccessNow is also playing a leading role with RightsCon. Privacy organizations are extremely active, and NCSG (which combines many CS organizations) has gotten deeply involved in that due to the GDPR-ICANN nexus.

What’s lacking is a meeting place where those organizations can all trade ideas and coordinate strategy when possible. That’s why I support (as you do too, apparently) these efforts to revive IGC.


Dr. Milton Mueller
Professor, School of Public Policy
Georgia Institute of Technology

[IGP_logo_gold block_email sig]<http://www.internetgovernance.org/>



So let me begin by saying the term internet governance is becoming about as relevant as television governance. There is nothing generic left to do, but there are plenty of emerging issues around the internet where civil society needs to present a strong voice.
Apart from digital inclusion, big issues out there include privacy, human rights, media domination, cybersecurity, cyberwarfare, digital distortion etc: and they come up in separate discussions concerning internet of things, artificial intelligence etc as well as in political discussions on terrorism, national security and related subjects. Mostly these days these issues are addressed in separate fora by different groups: often governmental, but sometimes also involving the big dominant players (Google Facebook etc.) In most cases civil society presence is either absent or weak, and its not sensible to think that the same people can represent our interests in this wide range of activities.
So I think a new revived IGC would see its primary role as ensuring relevant groups and individual experts get involved in emerging fora looking at specific issues. Let eg Privacy International or Human Rights Watch be our representative when these issues come up: involve individual experts like Tim Wu and Bruce Schneier on issues such as media concentration and security:
Then I think we are getting towards a meaningful role and involvement where civil society involvement will be respected, and IGC could play a meaningful ongoing role that extends well beyond getting together annually at an IGF (if it continues).
Then there is what to do with CSCG. If, as I suggest, BB, JNC and IGC end up as one group again, What is the future of CSCG? Only APC remains as an active organisation at this stage. I think here thought needs to be given to outreach as well – if for instance there was an agreement that privacy and human rights were our two biggest issues, why not invite prominent civil society organisations in those areas to join in?
Anyway, something needs to be done in all these areas. People whose terms of office have ended have not been replaced because of the inertia. I think and hope someone can jump up and take a lead to get civil society working well in these areas. I see lots of excellent new voices who want to do this, and I encourage action!

Ian Peter (ex co-ordinator of IGC and also Chair of CSCG for a while way back then....)



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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Fri Dec  7 03:23:18 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Wisdom Donkor (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 08:23:18 +0000
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting -
 thinking 2019 ahead.
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I agree with Farnaneh's suggestion. We can include highlights of 2018 as
Bruna mention in her mail.

*WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)*
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Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (Co-Founder)
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Member: UN BPF on IOT, Big Data and AI
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On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:24 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Would Google Hang out work for everyone? If not I can provide the virtual
> room but it might not be available for some participants around the world.
>
> I suggest the following agenda:
>
> 1. What are the most important Internet governance issues that civil
> society should address throughout 2019.
> 2. What is the best way to address them? [issuing joint statements,
> issuing public comments, holding sessions etc, working with other
> stakeholders)
> 3. How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their functions and
> hold them accountable?
> 4. Merging BestBits and IGC?
> 5. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
> network.
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 3:00 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I'd like to add 'Bestbits Steering Committee - elections..To have or not
>> to have' on the agenda.
>>
>> Best
>> Sheetal.
>>
>> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 07:35, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I can see if we can use our Zoom account. @Bruna – will you create an
>>> agenda, or should we do it collaboratively?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:56 AM Arsène Tungali <
>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bruna, all
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for starting this thread and thanks everyone for their
>>>> contributions so far. My apologies as I can only join the discussion now.
>>>>
>>>> It is great that we have a scheduled meeting and i really look forward
>>>> to it. I would encourage us all to contribute to the agenda setting and
>>>> plan on joining the call. Unfortunately, I could not join you all in Paris
>>>> and missed all different CS gatherings.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to suggest an agenda item for the upcoming meeting :
>>>> “Mapping of different existing initiatives and list civil society appointed
>>>> representatives there. How can we better support them?”
>>>>
>>>> The idea here is for us to start a google doc (before the meeting)
>>>> where we list various initiatives/mechanisms such as the HLPDC, IGF MAG,
>>>> etc and identify appointed CS representatives and then discuss how we can
>>>> best support them, amplifying their voice and ensuring they receive and
>>>> channel our contributions/inputs.
>>>>
>>>> During the meeting on Dec 13, we can make sure we invite them to join
>>>> the call and encourage at least one of them to share on the latest
>>>> developments in their group and suggest ways the broader CS groups can
>>>> support them.
>>>>
>>>> I am happy to facilitate this item on the agenda if given the
>>>> opportunity to do so and should we decide to have it on the meeting agenda.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Arsene
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On 05 Dec 2018, at 17:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance
>>>> Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all who answered to the poll and thread. I have just closed
>>>> the poll and t*he selected date for the meeting is Dec 13th, at 16h00
>>>> UTC*.
>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to suggest agenda items and If anyone would like to
>>>> help facilitating the meeting, just let me know!
>>>>
>>>> best,
>>>> Bruna
>>>>
>>>> Em qua, 5 de dez de 2018 às 12:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>> I've also filled out the doodle, thanks Bruna!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 15:17, Carolina Rossini <
>>>>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need for
>>>>>>> a Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few opportunities we
>>>>>>> had to meet while in Paris.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss Civil
>>>>>>> Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS
>>>>>>> Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a
>>>>>>> possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For that I have set up this doodle
>>>>>>> <https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested time
>>>>>>> slots on the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel free to
>>>>>>> suggest agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date and time
>>>>>>> of your preference - *and also to share it widely*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Carolina Rossini *
>>>>>> + 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini
>>>>>> PGP ID:  0xEC81015C
>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>
>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>> @boomartins
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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From ian.peter at ianpeter.com  Sat Dec 22 01:45:06 2018
From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2018 06:45:06 +0000
Subject: [governance] Meanwhile back at the ranch
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Surveillance capitalism might be one of the take-away phrases from 
2018...


https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xwjden/targeted-advertising-is-ruining-the-internet-and-breaking-the-world
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Mon Dec 24 10:42:30 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 16:42:30 +0100
Subject: [governance] IGF Taking Stock/ Draft Input
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvC_nwes2FYQF4yYsJT0BDQGwXF_mu92-QfCV_VH9Gmg0Q@mail.gmail.com>

This is an incomplete draft of the input for IGF taking stock call.

Here is the link:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wzIusx4GmQb_zKy8fJTrLniRIOL1pDNVGfaAI1CJ5Dw/edit?usp=sharing

It is incomplete, but I thought I share it with you from the beginning so
that we can collaboratively add points and see if we can submit this as IGC
or get some orgs sign it. It's a holiday season for some and we might not
be prepared to actually send it off by the deadline but we can try.

If you need the document in another format (i.e. in word) let me know.



Best


Farzaneh
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From joly at punkcast.com  Fri Dec 28 18:37:48 2018
From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 18:37:48 -0500
Subject: [governance] ISOC Live 12 Streams #3 - #ANTITRUST - Now More Than
 Ever?
Message-ID: <CAM9VJk1OVXnXZtmzAnBy9RYiS26QOrTWWSB-rMwWp0SV2-99Ew@mail.gmail.com>

How big is too big? How to carve? It's two against one here, but Rob
Atkinson argues that network effects ultimately benefit everybody.

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/DigitalCooperation>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/coppaat20>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/CITIDFS-ICO>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/ConnectedNE>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety2/js-nyc-nov18>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/swissigf18>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/iotsecurity2018-4>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/ukigf18>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/routingsecurity/>

<http://www.mnn.org/live/2-lifestyle-channel>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/diversity/>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/VisionsIG>

<http://www.mnn.org/live/2-lifestyle-channel>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days01/>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days02>

[image: Livestream] <https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days03/>
Today, *Friday December 28 2018*, at *7pm* EST (00:00 UTC) the third
installment of the *Internet Society Livestreaming <https://isoc.live/>*‘s
‘*12  days of Streams*‘ annual highlights features two events from 2018
that both have antitrust as their theme. 1) *Tim Wu*, *from November
<https://isoc.live/10680/>*, introducing the themes of his book ‘*The Curse
of Bigness: Antitrust in the New Gilded Age*‘ to students at Columbia Law
School, and 2) outgoing FTC Commissioner *Terrell McSweeny* debating *Rob
Atkinson*, President of the Information Technology and Innovation
Foundation (ITIF) and author of “*Big is Beautiful: Debunking the Myth of
Small Business*” at the *Genesys Partners Annual Dinner
<https://livestream.com/internetsociety2/genesys>* in April.

*Watch on Livestream: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days03/
<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days03/>*

*Buy the books:*

*The Curse of Bigness: Antitrust in the New Gilded Age*
*Random
House: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/602170/the-curse-of-bigness-by-tim-wu/9781984843654/
<https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/602170/the-curse-of-bigness-by-tim-wu/9781984843654/>*
*AMAZON: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HRLQSLG/
<https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HRLQSLG/>*

*Big is Beautiful: Debunking the Myth of Small Business*
*MIT Press: https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/big-beautiful
<https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/big-beautiful>*
*AMAZON: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BRDZWZJ
<https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BRDZWZJ>*

*Twitter: #12streams http://bit.ly/2SgU9Gu <http://bit.ly/2SgU9Gu>*

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/ourdigitalfuture/>



*Permalink*

https://isoc.live/10746/
<https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/%E2%80%8Bhttps://isoc.live/10746/%E2%80%8B>




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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Sun Dec 30 11:58:54 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne?= Tungali (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 18:58:54 +0200
Subject: [governance] IGF Taking Stock/ Draft Input
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvC_nwes2FYQF4yYsJT0BDQGwXF_mu92-QfCV_VH9Gmg0Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvC_nwes2FYQF4yYsJT0BDQGwXF_mu92-QfCV_VH9Gmg0Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABDXvWpZj39J8tLLdPb=eWqLc2pUWfEbxrNvdVRqmZjOyY+Pnw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Farzaneh, for starting this.

May I encourage everyone to please look at the document and populate
it with your ideas? I have seen already one member who have made
suggested edits, thanks Jyoti.

Regards,
Arsene

2018-12-24 17:42 UTC+02:00, farzaneh badii <governance at lists.riseup.net>:
> This is an incomplete draft of the input for IGF taking stock call.
>
> Here is the link:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wzIusx4GmQb_zKy8fJTrLniRIOL1pDNVGfaAI1CJ5Dw/edit?usp=sharing
>
> It is incomplete, but I thought I share it with you from the beginning so
> that we can collaboratively add points and see if we can submit this as IGC
> or get some orgs sign it. It's a holiday season for some and we might not
> be prepared to actually send it off by the deadline but we can try.
>
> If you need the document in another format (i.e. in word) let me know.
>
>
>
> Best
>
>
> Farzaneh
>


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Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
<http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
Tel: +243 993810967
GPG: 523644A0
*Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*

2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
<http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html>
(YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
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& Mexico
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From governance at lists.riseup.net  Fri Dec  7 05:52:41 2018
From: governance at lists.riseup.net (Baudouin SCHOMBE (via governance Mailing List))
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 11:52:41 +0100
Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting -
 thinking 2019 ahead.
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Farzaneh's proposition finds a wide echo:
1.The civil society will have to make an assessment of the major problems
discussed in previous years to avoid redundancy in 2019;
2.Thus, public comment broadcasts, the holding of sessions in collaboration
with other stakeholders and the publication of joint statements should be
considered;
3.As far as civil society representatives to MAG are concerned about their
functions and responsibilities, we need a special session where we can
discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these representatives. It's just
for reframing to get better.


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Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 08:26, Wisdom Donkor <governance at lists.riseup.net> a
écrit :

> I agree with Farnaneh's suggestion. We can include highlights of 2018 as
> Bruna mention in her mail.
>
> *WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)*
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>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:24 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Would Google Hang out work for everyone? If not I can provide the virtual
>> room but it might not be available for some participants around the world.
>>
>> I suggest the following agenda:
>>
>> 1. What are the most important Internet governance issues that civil
>> society should address throughout 2019.
>> 2. What is the best way to address them? [issuing joint statements,
>> issuing public comments, holding sessions etc, working with other
>> stakeholders)
>> 3. How to best advise Civil Soc MAG representatives on their functions
>> and hold them accountable?
>> 4. Merging BestBits and IGC?
>> 5. Funding to support the coordination effort of the civil society
>> network.
>>
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 3:00 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I'd like to add 'Bestbits Steering Committee - elections..To have or not
>>> to have' on the agenda.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Sheetal.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 07:35, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I can see if we can use our Zoom account. @Bruna – will you create an
>>>> agenda, or should we do it collaboratively?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 6:56 AM Arsène Tungali <
>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bruna, all
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for starting this thread and thanks everyone for their
>>>>> contributions so far. My apologies as I can only join the discussion now.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is great that we have a scheduled meeting and i really look forward
>>>>> to it. I would encourage us all to contribute to the agenda setting and
>>>>> plan on joining the call. Unfortunately, I could not join you all in Paris
>>>>> and missed all different CS gatherings.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to suggest an agenda item for the upcoming meeting :
>>>>> “Mapping of different existing initiatives and list civil society appointed
>>>>> representatives there. How can we better support them?”
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea here is for us to start a google doc (before the meeting)
>>>>> where we list various initiatives/mechanisms such as the HLPDC, IGF MAG,
>>>>> etc and identify appointed CS representatives and then discuss how we can
>>>>> best support them, amplifying their voice and ensuring they receive and
>>>>> channel our contributions/inputs.
>>>>>
>>>>> During the meeting on Dec 13, we can make sure we invite them to join
>>>>> the call and encourage at least one of them to share on the latest
>>>>> developments in their group and suggest ways the broader CS groups can
>>>>> support them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am happy to facilitate this item on the agenda if given the
>>>>> opportunity to do so and should we decide to have it on the meeting agenda.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Arsene
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05 Dec 2018, at 17:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos (via governance
>>>>> Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to all who answered to the poll and thread. I have just closed
>>>>> the poll and t*he selected date for the meeting is Dec 13th, at 16h00
>>>>> UTC*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please feel free to suggest agenda items and If anyone would like to
>>>>> help facilitating the meeting, just let me know!
>>>>>
>>>>> best,
>>>>> Bruna
>>>>>
>>>>> Em qua, 5 de dez de 2018 às 12:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've also filled out the doodle, thanks Bruna!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 15:17, Carolina Rossini <
>>>>>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need
>>>>>>>> for a Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few opportunities
>>>>>>>> we had to meet while in Paris.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss
>>>>>>>> Civil Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS
>>>>>>>> Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a
>>>>>>>> possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For that I have set up this doodle
>>>>>>>> <https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested time
>>>>>>>> slots on the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel free to
>>>>>>>> suggest agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date and time
>>>>>>>> of your preference - *and also to share it widely*.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>>>> @boomartins
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>>
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>>>>> @boomartins
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From joly at punkcast.com  Fri Dec  7 14:16:06 2018
From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 14:16:06 -0500
Subject: [governance] WEBCAST TODAY: Visions for Internet Governance
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Last Tuesday's all-star IG line up in DC, restreamed. Starts now.

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/DigitalCooperation>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/coppaat20>

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<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/ConnectedNE>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety2/js-nyc-nov18>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/swissigf18>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/iotsecurity2018-4>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/ukigf18>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/routingsecurity/>

<http://www.mnn.org/live/2-lifestyle-channel>

<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/diversity/>


[image: livestream]
<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/VisionsIG>Today *Friday
December 7 2018* at *2:15 pm ET *(19:15 UTC) the *Internet Society
Livestream Channel <https://livestream.com/internetsociety/>* will
re-stream *Visions for Internet Governance
<https://www.igfusa.us/visions-internet-governance/>* – held in Washington
DC last Tuesday and jointly hosted by the *Internet Society Washington
Chapter <http://isoc-dc.org/>* and* IGF-USA <https://www.igfusa.us/>*. Two
panels reviewed the *2018 ITU Plenipotentiary
<https://www.itu.int/web/pp-18/en/>*, the *Internet Governance Forum
<https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2018-0>*, *ICANN 63
<https://meetings.icann.org/en/barcelona63>* and other recent developments
in IG and what they indicate for the future. Speakers: *Becky Burr*, Deputy
General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer, Neustar; *Susan Chalmers*,
Internet Policy Specialist, US Department of Commerce, NTIA; *Jane Coffin*,
Director of Development Strategy, Internet Society; *Gus Rossi*, Global
Policy Director, Public Knowledge; *Shane Tews*, Co-Chair, IGF-USA; *Jovan
Kurbalija*, Executive Director, Secretariat of the UN Secretary General’s
High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation ; *Robert Strayer*, Ambassador and
Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Cyber and International
Communications, U.S. Department of State ; *Andrew Sullivan*, CEO, Internet
Society



*VIEW ON LIVESTREAM: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/VisionsIG
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