[governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump
willi uebelherr
willi.uebelherr at riseup.net
Mon Jan 30 23:45:39 EST 2017
What I read here are all great lies. For decades, the US has been
destroying other countries. Murdered millions of people. Destroy
cultures and habitats. And we do not hear anything from you. No cry out.
The "Internet" is fully controlled by small groups. Mostly from the USA.
Then you speak of "democratic governance of the Internet".
"Multistakeholderism" is a cheap theater. The access to all data is the
only interest, which gives itself validity. Connected with the interest
of making telecommunications a profitable business. All other interests
are subordinate to this.
The people don't exist for these groups. They are just objects.
What will you defend?
many greetings, willi
Asuncion, Paraguay
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Subject: RE: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:33:18 -0800
From: Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>
Yes Gene, and we applaud and support those struggles however, as you
well know the Internet is a necessary functionality and resource to the
entire world and any material change in how it is “governed” will be of
direct interest and concern to the entire world.
Mr. Trump’s expressed determination to pursue US interests at the
expense of all others raises serious questions I would think, about how
multistakeholder institutions fragile as they are, can survive when one
(and the major player) appears intent on foregoing collaboration and
co-determination in favour of unilateralism.
In fact, I believe that one interpretation of the Prisoner’s Dilemma can
tell us a great deal about what may occur in the future where the
significant likelihood of one player pursuing their own interest and
refusing to cooperate with others forces all other players either to
cooperate among themselves or to pursue similar autarchic moves.
Thus the issue of Mr. Trump and multistakeholderism might be of quite
immediate significance to many of the other players in the Internet
Governance game as they decide whether to go down the path of Autarchy,
align with the alternate polarity that China seems to be pursuing or
seek some more widely inclusive form of democratic governance of the
Internet.
It is of course, a pity that the processes and supporters for
multistakeholderism to this point have sought to avoid and downplay
issues of democratic governance of the Internet, but perhaps the silver
lining/unanticipated consequence of Mr. Trump’s actions is to force this
issue to the fore and to precipitate the rethinking and coalition
building out of which such a process of democratization might emerge and
serve the interests of all users and beneficiaries of the Internet.
M
From: genekimmelman at gmail.com [mailto:genekimmelman at gmail.com] Sent:
January 29, 2017 7:24 PM
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump
Many of us in the US are fighting day to day to preserve human rights
principles and fundamental constitutional rights in an extremely hostile
and dangerous environment. I hope we succeed, and in that context,
multistakeholderism may or may not play a role (which doesn't really
prove anything!). But I certainly don't think it's a very important
issue to worry about at this point in time when so much more is at
stake.....
On Jan 29, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com
<mailto:gurstein at gmail.com> > wrote:
A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of
Mr. Trump’s America First-ism?
Asking for a friend…
M
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