AW: [governance] [Internet Policy] WEBCAST Jan 24: Will The Internet Always Be American?

["Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"]

BTW, in the 80s we had - at the Minimum - four definitions of Europe. 
1. Europe as the a greographicaly unit from Iceland to the Urals (part of the Soviet Union, including the Caucasian republics but excluding the sein republics)
2. Europe as the member states of the CSCE (from Vancouver to Vladiwostok)
3. Europe as the member states of the EU (at this time it was 15)
4. Europe (from a UK perspective) as "the continent", excluding the UK

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Von: InternetPolicy im Auftrag von Joe Touch
Gesendet: Mi 18.01.2017 02:01
An: willi uebelherr; ISOC Internet Policy
Cc: IGF gov
Betreff: Re: [Internet Policy] WEBCAST Jan 24: Will The Internet Always Be American?
 


On 1/17/2017 4:30 PM, willi uebelherr wrote:
>
> Dear Joe,
>
> independent of the continental plates, it is one island. 

Despite the current climate, I don't participate in the personal
redefinition of every term on the planet.

North America is a single land mass. It has been continuously surrounded
by water since the completion of the Panama canal, even if we go by your
personal definition.

But it has been known by that term for a very long time (see below).

> The same is with Eurasia. A special sparation is made with Africa,
> because Eurasia and Africa is today one island.

That "special separation" is historical; the same applies to Europe vs.
Asia and North America vs. South America.

> But never, if people in west Europe speak about Europe, they mean east
> Asia.

They mean what they want to mean. You can define your own terms all you
want, but that does not mandate that they are accepted by others.

> The root we find with James Monroe and his Monroe-Doctrin 1823. But
> this is not necessary our base.

The Monroe Doctrine does not contain the term "North America"; only
"American continents" (note the plural).

And the term "North America" is clearly shown on the following map,
dated 1690 (68 years before Monroe was born).
https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47db-b02b-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99

Joe

>
> many greetings, willi
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] WEBCAST Jan 24: Will The Internet
> Always Be American?
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:50:58 -0800
> From: Joe Touch <touch at isi.edu>
>
> On 1/17/2017 3:40 PM, willi uebelherr wrote:
> > Dear Joly,
> > you have to understand: America is the continent. You live in
> > North-America in the USA.
>
> "America" would refer to two continents: North America and South America.
> See definition 1 of the OED:
> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/America
>
> The term America means many things, but it has also commonly become
> synonymous with "the United States".
> See definition 1.1 of the OED, as above.
>
> Note: the people of the US did not conspire to make this happen ;-)
> Joe
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