From dave at davecake.net Wed Feb 1 00:51:11 2017 From: dave at davecake.net (David Cake) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 13:51:11 +0800 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Trump policies seem, on the face of it, implicitly hostile to the methods of any efforts that are not unilaterally lead by the US government, and unlikely to contribute usefully to multi-stakeholder dialogues, or to be supportive of multi-stakeholder institutions. Travel policies are already proving problematic. I’m certainly quite pleased that he IANA Transition was completed, and we have a lot less to worry about from unilateral US efforts to influence ICANN etc. The White House is not the entire US government. Hopefully, multi-stakeholder efforts will prove resilient to the efforts of a single radical government, even the US. David > On 30 Jan 2017, at 10:35 am, Michael Gurstein wrote: > > A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? > > Asking for a friend… > > M > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 01:13:01 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 08:13:01 +0200 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> Message-ID: Dear Norbert, Mawaki, Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder if anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it for the first time on our website will be able to understand the background. Just thinking outloud :) I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. I suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate persons, to follow the process as agreed here. Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good sign imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally sent this letter. Hope this is fine with you'all. Thanks, A ----------------- Arsène Tungali, @arsenebaguma +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow wrote: > > Dear Arsène and all > > Please find our proposal at > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upPKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit > > I'm also including the text below. > > Greetings, > Norbert > > > -- draft starts -- > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > Dear Colleagues > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, http://igcaucus.org) > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information Society > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet > governance policy making. > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for > Everyone”. > > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet access > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ . > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, > President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent > with the above. > > Best regards > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > > > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org > > -- draft ends -- > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 > Arsène Tungali wrote: > >> Dear Norbert, >> >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I am >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that everyone >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC Global. >> >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at least >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the margins >> of the doc). >> >> Regards, >> A >> >> ------------------------ >> **Arsène Tungali** >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >> *, >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >> Forum * >> Tel: +243 993810967 >> GPG: 523644A0 >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >> >> & Mexico >> ) >> - AFRISIG 2016 - >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >> & Marrakech >> >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >> )* >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >> >> >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow : >> >>> Dear Arsène and all >>> >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. >>> >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers who >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct as >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any Chapter >>> official's position and put them in the position to be answerable >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is already >>> known. >>> >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC. >>> >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. >>> >>> Greetings, >>> Norbert >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 >>> Arsène Tungali wrote: >>> >>>> Dear colleagues, >>>> >>>> Starting a new thread. >>>> >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this >>>> new form of oppression. >>>> >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in >>>> his country. >>>> >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement >>>> >> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer> >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). >>>> >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler >>>> , >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: >>>> >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. >>>> >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. >>>> >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of >>>>> view from Mr. >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? >>>> >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* >>>> >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list >>>> within the next 48 hours. >>>> >>>> Very best, >>>> >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 04:18:46 2017 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 09:18:46 +0000 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> Message-ID: Dear Arsène et al. We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should not be approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, on the world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into endless debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to take a turn to, or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we further motivated the exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the specific communication that prompted it. You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. Apparently he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep quiet, on the issue (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your response, I stand to be corrected.) In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex political and security issues that the government might be dealing with on the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, maybe Janvier just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale condemnation of his country in the global community of civil society. But the email posted is there including terms and a rationale which are unacceptable to us, and we needed to express our concern and register our disapproval of such. We are not making claims as to how hard working and committed ISOC Cameroon may or may not be toward facilitating Internet access to all in Cameroon, in ordinary times. Mawaki On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" wrote: Dear Norbert, Mawaki, Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder if anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it for the first time on our website will be able to understand the background. Just thinking outloud :) I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. I suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate persons, to follow the process as agreed here. Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good sign imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally sent this letter. Hope this is fine with you'all. Thanks, A ----------------- Arsène Tungali, @arsenebaguma +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow wrote: > > Dear Arsène and all > > Please find our proposal at > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upPKnJTE yWULk-fUSajTd8/edit > > I'm also including the text below. > > Greetings, > Norbert > > > -- draft starts -- > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > Dear Colleagues > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, http://igcaucus.org) > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information Society > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet > governance policy making. > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for > Everyone”. > > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet access > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ . > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, > President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent > with the above. > > Best regards > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > > > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org > > -- draft ends -- > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 > Arsène Tungali wrote: > >> Dear Norbert, >> >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I am >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that everyone >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC Global. >> >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at least >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the margins >> of the doc). >> >> Regards, >> A >> >> ------------------------ >> **Arsène Tungali** >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >> *, >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >> Forum * >> Tel: +243 993810967 >> GPG: 523644A0 >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >> >> & Mexico >> ) >> - AFRISIG 2016 - >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >> & Marrakech >> >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >> )* >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >> >> >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow : >> >>> Dear Arsène and all >>> >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. >>> >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers who >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct as >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any Chapter >>> official's position and put them in the position to be answerable >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is already >>> known. >>> >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC. >>> >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. >>> >>> Greetings, >>> Norbert >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 >>> Arsène Tungali wrote: >>> >>>> Dear colleagues, >>>> >>>> Starting a new thread. >>>> >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this >>>> new form of oppression. >>>> >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in >>>> his country. >>>> >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement >>>> >> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_ campaign=buffer> >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). >>>> >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler >>>> , >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: >>>> >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. >>>> >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. >>>> >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of >>>>> view from Mr. >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? >>>> >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* >>>> >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list >>>> within the next 48 hours. >>>> >>>> Very best, >>>> >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Wed Feb 1 04:32:59 2017 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 11:32:59 +0200 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: Cameroon - APC statement In-Reply-To: References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> Message-ID: <2aef78b7-bc42-df19-7a87-8b12d07b8629@apc.org> Dear all Apologies if this was already posted. Here is the statement on the Cameroon situation. Story: http://www.apc.org/en/news/cameroon-maintains-internet-shutdown-despite-inter Statement: https://www.apc.org/en/pubs/apc-statement-internet-shutdown-cameroon Anriette -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 04:51:26 2017 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 09:51:26 +0000 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> Message-ID: P.S. In my previous email, at the end of that sentence where I mention "political and security issues... on the ground" I would want to insert the following as a footnote. Whatever the issue at hand and the legitimacy of fighting against it, it still appears to be the predominant view among CS that shutting down the Internet does not resolve the problem while taking related rights and freedoms away from people the overwhelming majority of whom have nothing to do in causing the problem. Anyone, including from among concerned ISOC Chapter members, is free to agree with the government approach on this, or try to justify it, and anyone else is equally free to disapprove of it. That's basically all IGC is trying to do through this statement, taking into account in this specific context the kind of expectations one would hold toward any group of people claiming membership to ISOC. On Feb 1, 2017 9:18 AM, "Mawaki Chango" wrote: Dear Arsène et al. We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should not be approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, on the world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into endless debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to take a turn to, or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we further motivated the exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the specific communication that prompted it. You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. Apparently he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep quiet, on the issue (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your response, I stand to be corrected.) In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex political and security issues that the government might be dealing with on the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, maybe Janvier just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale condemnation of his country in the global community of civil society. But the email posted is there including terms and a rationale which are unacceptable to us, and we needed to express our concern and register our disapproval of such. We are not making claims as to how hard working and committed ISOC Cameroon may or may not be toward facilitating Internet access to all in Cameroon, in ordinary times. Mawaki On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" wrote: Dear Norbert, Mawaki, Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder if anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it for the first time on our website will be able to understand the background. Just thinking outloud :) I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. I suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate persons, to follow the process as agreed here. Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good sign imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally sent this letter. Hope this is fine with you'all. Thanks, A ----------------- Arsène Tungali, @arsenebaguma +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow wrote: > > Dear Arsène and all > > Please find our proposal at > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upP KnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit > > I'm also including the text below. > > Greetings, > Norbert > > > -- draft starts -- > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > Dear Colleagues > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, http://igcaucus.org) > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information Society > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet > governance policy making. > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for > Everyone”. > > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet access > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ . > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, > President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent > with the above. > > Best regards > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > > > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org > > -- draft ends -- > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 > Arsène Tungali wrote: > >> Dear Norbert, >> >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I am >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that everyone >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC Global. >> >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at least >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the margins >> of the doc). >> >> Regards, >> A >> >> ------------------------ >> **Arsène Tungali** >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >> *, >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >> Forum * >> Tel: +243 993810967 >> GPG: 523644A0 >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >> >> & Mexico >> ) >> - AFRISIG 2016 - >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >> & Marrakech >> >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >> )* >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >> >> >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow : >> >>> Dear Arsène and all >>> >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. >>> >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers who >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct as >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any Chapter >>> official's position and put them in the position to be answerable >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is already >>> known. >>> >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC. >>> >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. >>> >>> Greetings, >>> Norbert >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 >>> Arsène Tungali wrote: >>> >>>> Dear colleagues, >>>> >>>> Starting a new thread. >>>> >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this >>>> new form of oppression. >>>> >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in >>>> his country. >>>> >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement >>>> >> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_cam paign=buffer> >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). >>>> >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler >>>> , >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: >>>> >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. >>>> >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. >>>> >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of >>>>> view from Mr. >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? >>>> >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* >>>> >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list >>>> within the next 48 hours. >>>> >>>> Very best, >>>> >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 05:01:36 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 11:01:36 +0100 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: Cameroon - APC statement In-Reply-To: <2aef78b7-bc42-df19-7a87-8b12d07b8629@apc.org> References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> <2aef78b7-bc42-df19-7a87-8b12d07b8629@apc.org> Message-ID: Thanks Henriette I have circulated it to local media here Agien Nyangkwe On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > Dear all > > Apologies if this was already posted. Here is the statement on the > Cameroon situation. > > Story: > http://www.apc.org/en/news/cameroon-maintains-internet- > shutdown-despite-inter > > Statement: > https://www.apc.org/en/pubs/apc-statement-internet-shutdown-cameroon > > Anriette > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Martin Tumasang Date: Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:30 AM Subject: Total Onslaught: Biya Freezing Bank Accounts Of West Cameroonian Lawyers, Teachers etc. so that Hunger and Poverty can Force them Back to Work. To: "ambasbay at googlegroups.com" After Internet, now it is bank accounts, what will they do tomorrow?. A hunger man is a vulnerable man the government thinks. The below is trending online about Ecobank. Can someone in the know confirm if the information is true?. [image: Image may contain: text] Maybelle Boma Follow · Yesterday at 5:37am · LORD HELP US! As posted Ivo by Tapang some few mins ago... 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Notre Dame Law School is the oldest Roman Catholic law school in the nation and brings together centuries of Cat... NDLS Human Rights Lawyer Charged with Treason in Cameroon [image: Felix] Felix Agbor Nkongho, ’06 LL.M., has been charged with treason, terrorism, and other capital offenses by a military court in Cameroon after recently leading a series of protests in English-speaking regions of the country. Media reports indicate that his trial will begin on February 1 in the capital city of Yaoundé. Sean O’Brien, director of the LL.M. program in International Human Rights Law and Nkongho’s professor at Notre Dame, has filed a petition for urgent action with the Special Procedures of the United Nations Human Rights Council. Working with alumni of the LL.M. program, he successfully urged Amnesty International to issue a statement calling for Cameroon to “immediately and unconditionally” release Nkongho and his colleague. “Felix is a well recognized and highly respected human rights defender. He has been targeted because of the effectiveness of his non-violent advocacy on behalf of the legal, educational, and cultural rights of Anglophone Cameroonians,” O’Brien said. “He should be released.” French and English are both official languages in the African country, but English-speaking citizens like Nkongho think that government policies are discriminatory to English-speakers, particularly in the education and judicial systems. A longtime human rights officer and legal adviser to various United Nations field missions, Nkongho is president of the Cameroon Anglophone Civil Society Consortium, a non-governmental organization that advocates on behalf of English-speaking residents. The group objects to the government’s use of only French in courts and schools in Cameroon’s southwest and northwest provinces, which marginalizes and limits access to justice for English-speaking residents. Lawyers, teachers, and students have been striking and protesting since October 2016. “West Cameroonians’ education, culture, language and economic aspirations have been severely undermined,” Nkongho wrote in a recent press release. “The people are thus very determined to secure their Anglo-Saxon heritage and aspirations as we enshrined in the constitution of 1961.” Residents from English-speaking regions say they are excluded from civil service jobs, Nkongho said. Judges and administrators are often sent to manage court systems in English speaking regions without any knowledge of the language or the common law legal system. The consortium is an organization made up of civil society organizations, professionals and trade unions to advocate for the rights of English-speakers in Cameroon. The group’s efforts are a part of a wider protest against government officials, and began on the day that schools were meant to reopen for the second term of the school year. English-speaking residents account for about 20 percent of Cameroon’s 23 million people, said Nkongho. According to the Cameroonian constitution, which was adopted in 1972, both English and French are official languages with “the same status.” It also states, “The State shall guarantee the promotion of bilingualism throughout the country.” Cameroon’s president Paul Biya, who has led the country since 1982, rarely makes statements in English. Most official documents, public exams, and news from the state broadcaster are in French. The civil disobedience campaign, launched by the consortium, is expected to continue despite Nkongho’s arrest and trial. *Posted In:* General News , Home Page , and News Page // The Law School // University of Notre Dame News Page // The Law School // University of Notre Dame Notre Dame Law School is the oldest Roman Catholic law school in the nation and brings together centuries of Cat... -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From plommer at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 05:55:44 2017 From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 12:55:44 +0200 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: +1 Lorena Here's another debunking article, with five solid points: https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30/sorry-mr-president-the-obama-administration-did-nothing-similar-to-your-immigration-ban/ I would like Nyangkwe to acknowledge these articles and admit, that he was wrong to accuse people of hypocrisy in this case. -Raoul On 1 February 2017 at 07:51, David Cake wrote: > Trump policies seem, on the face of it, implicitly hostile to the methods > of any efforts that are not unilaterally lead by the US government, and > unlikely to contribute usefully to multi-stakeholder dialogues, or to be > supportive of multi-stakeholder institutions. Travel policies are already > proving problematic. > > I’m certainly quite pleased that he IANA Transition was completed, and we > have a lot less to worry about from unilateral US efforts to influence > ICANN etc. > > The White House is not the entire US government. Hopefully, > multi-stakeholder efforts will prove resilient to the efforts of a single > radical government, even the US. > > David > > > On 30 Jan 2017, at 10:35 am, Michael Gurstein wrote: > > A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of > Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? > > Asking for a friend… > > M > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 06:10:11 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 12:10:11 +0100 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: My Dear Raoul Facts are facts. A fact is the Executive order signed by Trump and referenced in that article by Jon Finer. But Finer failed whoefully in reporting the other side of the story by referring us with a link to the Obama Executive order. His explainations are ner not facts because the fact is that order that must be read by all and sundry. Why is Foreign Policy (I read it regularly) refusing to publish the Obama E.O? Sorry Jon Finer, yours was some jaundized stuff. The world is not more unidirectional as some of you in the establishment tink. No apology UNTIL THE OBAMA E.O IS PULISHED IN ITS ENTIRETY Some can continue to vent their spleen at us. We have no qualms Agien Nyangwe (Aaron) On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Raoul Plommer wrote: > +1 Lorena > > Here's another debunking article, with five solid points: > https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30/sorry-mr-president-the-obama- > administration-did-nothing-similar-to-your-immigration-ban/ > > I would like Nyangkwe to acknowledge these articles and admit, that he was > wrong to accuse people of hypocrisy in this case. > > -Raoul > > On 1 February 2017 at 07:51, David Cake wrote: > >> Trump policies seem, on the face of it, implicitly hostile to the methods >> of any efforts that are not unilaterally lead by the US government, and >> unlikely to contribute usefully to multi-stakeholder dialogues, or to be >> supportive of multi-stakeholder institutions. Travel policies are already >> proving problematic. >> >> I’m certainly quite pleased that he IANA Transition was completed, and we >> have a lot less to worry about from unilateral US efforts to influence >> ICANN etc. >> >> The White House is not the entire US government. Hopefully, >> multi-stakeholder efforts will prove resilient to the efforts of a single >> radical government, even the US. >> >> David >> >> >> On 30 Jan 2017, at 10:35 am, Michael Gurstein wrote: >> >> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of >> Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >> >> Asking for a friend… >> >> M >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From plommer at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 06:30:00 2017 From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 13:30:00 +0200 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Nyangkwe, like you say, facts are facts. The problem is, that you have been fed something else than facts. You can check the facts represented in the article I linked to and FYI, the executive orders are public information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_actions_by_Barack_Obama The whole point of the story was a concerted effort to normalise Trump's damaging policy, by trying to mislead people into thinking that this policy was already made by Obama. That is simply not true. Here's a handy little table on the countries affected: https://www.instagram.com/p/BP1fHbKAwZC/ -Raoul On 1 February 2017 at 13:10, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron wrote: > My Dear Raoul > > Facts are facts. A fact is the Executive order signed by Trump and > referenced in that article by Jon Finer. But Finer failed whoefully in > reporting the other side of the story by referring us with a link to the > Obama Executive order. His explainations are ner not facts because the fact > is that order that must be read by all and sundry. Why is Foreign Policy (I > read it regularly) refusing to publish the Obama E.O? > Sorry Jon Finer, yours was some jaundized stuff. The world is not more > unidirectional as some of you in the establishment tink. > > No apology UNTIL THE OBAMA E.O IS PULISHED IN ITS ENTIRETY > > Some can continue to vent their spleen at us. We have no qualms > > Agien Nyangwe (Aaron) > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Raoul Plommer wrote: > >> +1 Lorena >> >> Here's another debunking article, with five solid points: >> https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30/sorry-mr-presid >> ent-the-obama-administration-did-nothing-similar-to-your-immigration-ban/ >> >> I would like Nyangkwe to acknowledge these articles and admit, that he >> was wrong to accuse people of hypocrisy in this case. >> >> -Raoul >> >> On 1 February 2017 at 07:51, David Cake wrote: >> >>> Trump policies seem, on the face of it, implicitly hostile to the >>> methods of any efforts that are not unilaterally lead by the US government, >>> and unlikely to contribute usefully to multi-stakeholder dialogues, or to >>> be supportive of multi-stakeholder institutions. Travel policies are >>> already proving problematic. >>> >>> I’m certainly quite pleased that he IANA Transition was completed, and >>> we have a lot less to worry about from unilateral US efforts to influence >>> ICANN etc. >>> >>> The White House is not the entire US government. Hopefully, >>> multi-stakeholder efforts will prove resilient to the efforts of a single >>> radical government, even the US. >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> On 30 Jan 2017, at 10:35 am, Michael Gurstein >>> wrote: >>> >>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of >>> Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >>> >>> Asking for a friend… >>> >>> M >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Aaron Agien NYANGKWE > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From tapani.tarvainen at effi.org Wed Feb 1 06:35:55 2017 From: tapani.tarvainen at effi.org (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 13:35:55 +0200 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20170201113555.GE26514@tehanu.it.jyu.fi> On Feb 01 12:10, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron (nyangkweagien at gmail.com) wrote: > Facts are facts. A fact is the Executive order signed by Trump and > referenced in that article by Jon Finer. But Finer failed whoefully in > reporting the other side of the story by referring us with a link to the > Obama Executive order. His explainations are ner not facts because the fact > is that order that must be read by all and sundry. Why is Foreign Policy (I > read it regularly) refusing to publish the Obama E.O? Probably because it doesn't exist. All Obama's executive orders are published here: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders and (in an easier format) here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_actions_by_Barack_Obama The Visa Waiver program was amended during Obama's term, but not by the president with an EO but by Congress. See, e.g., https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/158/text -- Tapani Tarvainen -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From plommer at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 06:38:40 2017 From: plommer at gmail.com (Raoul Plommer) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 13:38:40 +0200 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: This pretty well sums it up: "Under the [Obama's] law, dual citizens of visa-waiver countries and Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria could no longer travel to the U.S. without a visa. Dual citizens of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen could, however, still use the visa-waiver program if they hadn't traveled to any of the seven countries after March 2011. Trump's order is much broader. It bans all citizens from those seven countries from entering the U.S. and leaves green card holders subject to being rescreened after visiting those countries. The executive order specifically invoked the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. A senior Trump administration official also pointed to the 2015 shooting rampage in San Bernardino, California, to justify the President's orders although neither of the attackers in the shooting would've been affected by the new ban." http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/29/politics/how-the-trump-administration-chose-the-7-countries/ -Raoul On 1 February 2017 at 13:30, Raoul Plommer wrote: > Nyangkwe, like you say, facts are facts. The problem is, that you have > been fed something else than facts. You can check the facts represented in > the article I linked to and FYI, the executive orders are public > information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_actions_by_B > arack_Obama > > The whole point of the story was a concerted effort to normalise Trump's > damaging policy, by trying to mislead people into thinking that this policy > was already made by Obama. That is simply not true. > > Here's a handy little table on the countries affected: > https://www.instagram.com/p/BP1fHbKAwZC/ > > -Raoul > > On 1 February 2017 at 13:10, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron > wrote: > >> My Dear Raoul >> >> Facts are facts. A fact is the Executive order signed by Trump and >> referenced in that article by Jon Finer. But Finer failed whoefully in >> reporting the other side of the story by referring us with a link to the >> Obama Executive order. His explainations are ner not facts because the fact >> is that order that must be read by all and sundry. Why is Foreign Policy (I >> read it regularly) refusing to publish the Obama E.O? >> Sorry Jon Finer, yours was some jaundized stuff. The world is not more >> unidirectional as some of you in the establishment tink. >> >> No apology UNTIL THE OBAMA E.O IS PULISHED IN ITS ENTIRETY >> >> Some can continue to vent their spleen at us. We have no qualms >> >> Agien Nyangwe (Aaron) >> >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Raoul Plommer wrote: >> >>> +1 Lorena >>> >>> Here's another debunking article, with five solid points: >>> https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30/sorry-mr-presid >>> ent-the-obama-administration-did-nothing-similar-to-your-imm >>> igration-ban/ >>> >>> I would like Nyangkwe to acknowledge these articles and admit, that he >>> was wrong to accuse people of hypocrisy in this case. >>> >>> -Raoul >>> >>> On 1 February 2017 at 07:51, David Cake wrote: >>> >>>> Trump policies seem, on the face of it, implicitly hostile to the >>>> methods of any efforts that are not unilaterally lead by the US government, >>>> and unlikely to contribute usefully to multi-stakeholder dialogues, or to >>>> be supportive of multi-stakeholder institutions. Travel policies are >>>> already proving problematic. >>>> >>>> I’m certainly quite pleased that he IANA Transition was completed, and >>>> we have a lot less to worry about from unilateral US efforts to influence >>>> ICANN etc. >>>> >>>> The White House is not the entire US government. Hopefully, >>>> multi-stakeholder efforts will prove resilient to the efforts of a single >>>> radical government, even the US. >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30 Jan 2017, at 10:35 am, Michael Gurstein >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context >>>> of Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >>>> >>>> Asking for a friend… >>>> >>>> M >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >> P.O.Box 5213 >> Douala-Cameroon >> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Wed Feb 1 07:01:43 2017 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 13:01:43 +0100 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> Message-ID: <20170201130143.0142cde7@quill> I'm in full agreement with all of Mawaki's points below. Greetings, Norbert On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 09:18:46 +0000 Mawaki Chango wrote: > Dear Arsène et al. > > We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should not > be approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, > on the world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get > into endless debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it > to take a turn to, or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we > further motivated the exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the > specific communication that prompted it. > > You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions > prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. > Apparently he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep > quiet, on the issue (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications > of your response, I stand to be corrected.) > > In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions > should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex > political and security issues that the government might be dealing > with on the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, > maybe Janvier just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a > wholesale condemnation of his country in the global community of > civil society. But the email posted is there including terms and a > rationale which are unacceptable to us, and we needed to express our > concern and register our disapproval of such. We are not making > claims as to how hard working and committed ISOC Cameroon may or may > not be toward facilitating Internet access to all in Cameroon, in > ordinary times. > > Mawaki > > On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" > wrote: > > Dear Norbert, Mawaki, > > Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder if > anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it for > the first time on our website will be able to understand the > background. Just thinking outloud :) > > I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. I > suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. > > We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate > persons, to follow the process as agreed here. > > Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good sign > imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally sent > this letter. > > Hope this is fine with you'all. > > Thanks, > A > ----------------- > Arsène Tungali, > @arsenebaguma > +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo > > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > > > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow wrote: > > > > Dear Arsène and all > > > > Please find our proposal at > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upPKnJTE > yWULk-fUSajTd8/edit > > > > I'm also including the text below. > > > > Greetings, > > Norbert > > > > > > -- draft starts -- > > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > > > Dear Colleagues > > > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, > > http://igcaucus.org) is a global network of civil society actors > > who originally came together in the context of the World Summit on > > the Information Society (WSIS) to promote global public interest > > objectives in Internet governance policy making. > > > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable > > in regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that > > such shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. > > > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC > > to be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is > > for Everyone”. > > > > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet > > access and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, > > we refer to the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, > > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ . > > > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to > > respectfully urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a > > corresponding strong stance in regard to Internet shutdowns in some > > regions of the country, and to denounce and oppose such dreadful > > measures with all earnestness. > > > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our > > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, > > President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent > > with the above. > > > > Best regards > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > > > > > > > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org > > > > -- draft ends -- > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 > > Arsène Tungali wrote: > > > >> Dear Norbert, > >> > >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I > >> am happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that > >> everyone is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to > >> ISOC Global. > >> > >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at > >> least 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. > >> Please do share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone > >> but just allow people to make contributions in form of comments in > >> the margins of the doc). > >> > >> Regards, > >> A > >> > >> ------------------------ > >> **Arsène Tungali** > >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > >> *, > >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa > >> Forum * > >> Tel: +243 993810967 > >> GPG: 523644A0 > >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > >> > >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > >> mandela-washington.html> > >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > >> leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf- > ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors> > >> & Mexico > >> leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) > >> - AFRISIG 2016 - > >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > >> & Marrakech > >> attendees-2016-03-14-en> > >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > >> fellowship-winners>)* > >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > >> > >> > >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow : > >> > >>> Dear Arsène and all > >>> > >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that > >>> Mawaki and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. > >>> > >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I > >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At > >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in > >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is > >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers > >>> who are not bound to the organization by a required line of > >>> conduct as would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore > >>> we cannot reasonably hold the global organization accountable for > >>> any Chapter official's position and put them in the position to > >>> be answerable about it -- which will appear as being the case if > >>> we address a letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their > >>> response is already known. > >>> > >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, > >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should > >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in > >>> IGC. > >>> > >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. > >>> > >>> Greetings, > >>> Norbert > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 > >>> Arsène Tungali wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear colleagues, > >>>> > >>>> Starting a new thread. > >>>> > >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about > >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added > >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet > >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more > >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this > >>>> new form of oppression. > >>>> > >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their > >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in > >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon > >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which > >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other > >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other > >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, > >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in > >>>> his country. > >>>> > >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement > >>>> everyone?utm_content= > >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_ > campaign=buffer> > >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other > >>>> countries. This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not > >>>> support shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). > >>>> > >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler > >>>> , > >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: > >>>> > >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing > >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon > >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are > >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and > >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. > >>>> > >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: > >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other > >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the > >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), > >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them > >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. > >>>> > >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of > >>>>> view from Mr. > >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely > >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is > >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In > >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a > >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* > >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC > >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance > >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and > >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us > >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? > >>>> > >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet > >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I > >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as > >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we > >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks > >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the > >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively > >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any > >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers > >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* > >>>> > >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another > >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without > >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to > >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list > >>>> within the next 48 hours. > >>>> > >>>> Very best, > >>>> > >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 07:09:00 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 13:09:00 +0100 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Raoul You should have simply posted the Obama E.O in question instead of smearing me with hundreths of EOs from Obama.His spokesman told newsmen last sunday that what Trump did was just less than wht Obama did. I expected those who opposed that to counter with a posting of the Obama O.E. The countray to me is the weepings of sour loosers. Breaking news to you Raoul By coming out in total breach of tradition, Obama has sealed the democrats to remain in the cold for 8 years. You can quote me the African. I read these signs to predict a Trump win - I am no trumpist anyway. But I have finally come to admire his bullish attitude in taking on the establishment that has taken the world hostage. That to me is great endeavours. My fears are that he may end up getting the JF Kennedy dose Oh, you still have to wait for that apology from me until the ultimate time Agien Nyangkwe On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Raoul Plommer wrote: > This pretty well sums it up: > > "Under the [Obama's] law, dual citizens of visa-waiver countries and Iran, > Iraq, Sudan, or Syria could no longer travel to the U.S. without a visa. > Dual citizens of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen could, however, still use the > visa-waiver program if they hadn't traveled to any of the seven countries > after March 2011. > > Trump's order is much broader. It bans all citizens from those seven > countries from entering the U.S. and leaves green card holders subject to > being rescreened after visiting those countries. > > The executive order specifically invoked the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist > attacks. A senior Trump administration official also pointed to the 2015 > shooting rampage in San Bernardino, California, to justify the President's > orders although neither of the attackers in the shooting would've been > affected by the new ban." > > http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/29/politics/how-the-trump- > administration-chose-the-7-countries/ > > -Raoul > > On 1 February 2017 at 13:30, Raoul Plommer wrote: > >> Nyangkwe, like you say, facts are facts. The problem is, that you have >> been fed something else than facts. You can check the facts represented in >> the article I linked to and FYI, the executive orders are public >> information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_actions_by_B >> arack_Obama >> >> The whole point of the story was a concerted effort to normalise Trump's >> damaging policy, by trying to mislead people into thinking that this policy >> was already made by Obama. That is simply not true. >> >> Here's a handy little table on the countries affected: >> https://www.instagram.com/p/BP1fHbKAwZC/ >> >> -Raoul >> >> On 1 February 2017 at 13:10, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron < >> nyangkweagien at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> My Dear Raoul >>> >>> Facts are facts. A fact is the Executive order signed by Trump and >>> referenced in that article by Jon Finer. But Finer failed whoefully in >>> reporting the other side of the story by referring us with a link to the >>> Obama Executive order. His explainations are ner not facts because the fact >>> is that order that must be read by all and sundry. Why is Foreign Policy (I >>> read it regularly) refusing to publish the Obama E.O? >>> Sorry Jon Finer, yours was some jaundized stuff. The world is not more >>> unidirectional as some of you in the establishment tink. >>> >>> No apology UNTIL THE OBAMA E.O IS PULISHED IN ITS ENTIRETY >>> >>> Some can continue to vent their spleen at us. We have no qualms >>> >>> Agien Nyangwe (Aaron) >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Raoul Plommer >>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 Lorena >>>> >>>> Here's another debunking article, with five solid points: >>>> https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30/sorry-mr-presid >>>> ent-the-obama-administration-did-nothing-similar-to-your-imm >>>> igration-ban/ >>>> >>>> I would like Nyangkwe to acknowledge these articles and admit, that he >>>> was wrong to accuse people of hypocrisy in this case. >>>> >>>> -Raoul >>>> >>>> On 1 February 2017 at 07:51, David Cake wrote: >>>> >>>>> Trump policies seem, on the face of it, implicitly hostile to the >>>>> methods of any efforts that are not unilaterally lead by the US government, >>>>> and unlikely to contribute usefully to multi-stakeholder dialogues, or to >>>>> be supportive of multi-stakeholder institutions. Travel policies are >>>>> already proving problematic. >>>>> >>>>> I’m certainly quite pleased that he IANA Transition was completed, and >>>>> we have a lot less to worry about from unilateral US efforts to influence >>>>> ICANN etc. >>>>> >>>>> The White House is not the entire US government. Hopefully, >>>>> multi-stakeholder efforts will prove resilient to the efforts of a single >>>>> radical government, even the US. >>>>> >>>>> David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 30 Jan 2017, at 10:35 am, Michael Gurstein >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context >>>>> of Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >>>>> >>>>> Asking for a friend… >>>>> >>>>> M >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >>> P.O.Box 5213 >>> Douala-Cameroon >>> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 <6%2073%2042%2071%2027> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 07:11:24 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 13:11:24 +0100 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [cameroon_politics] Biya in Full Offensive: Dethrones Miss Cameroon for Being Sympathetic to Anglophone Plight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Subject: [cameroon_politics] Biya in Full Offensive: Dethrones Miss Cameroon for Being Sympathetic to Anglophone Plight To: "cameroon_politics at yahoogroups.com" Miss Cameroon Dethrone For Voicing Anglophone Support January 31, 2017January 31, 2017 baramarkofficial The civil disobedience from Southern Cameroonians has reached its height. The government of Paul Biya has decided to engaged in a full-fledged war against people from Southern Cameroons. Citizens are abducted daily as they voice out opinions on the current crisis, media houses are being shut down or warned and threatened. Journalists are arrested and threatened to state mute. Internet connection across the entire country remains mute. The struggle took another turn this past weekend when Miss Cameroon Julie Frankline Cheugue was stripped of her crown. We gathered that the beauty queen had earlier been accused of supporting the strike action by professional groups of the English speaking regions. Cheugue had reportedly called on the Government of Cameroon to listen to the worries of the Anglophones. Instead, she was stripped off her crown. Speaking to Miss Cameroon she said she had learned about her dismissal only through the social media. She says she will not accept this sanction, since she had been elected by the Cameroonians. “I am not in a political party. I am simply doing what a Miss is supposed to do. Concerning the Northwest and the Southwest: We are a united country and peace is everything. That is my only advice,” Cheugue said. However, Miss Solange Ingrid Amougou, the President of the committee that organizes the Miss Cameroon election, said that Cheugue’s dismissal had come about because of insubordination and gross indiscipline. “As a model, she is supposed to promote the image of our country. She is not there to create disorder. She is not there to practice politics, because we are an apolitical organization,” Amougou said. BaretaNews denounces this position from the organizing committee. Voicing concerns about a marginalised people is not politics. It is about standing for humanity. The Cameroons people stand and support Miss Cameroon for supporting people from West Cameroon. __._,_.___ ------------------------------ Posted by: Martin Tumasang ------------------------------ Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1) ------------------------------ Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. ------------------------------ <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cameroon_politics/ Visit Your Group - New Members 1 [image: Yahoo! Groups] • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 06:43:19 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 12:43:19 +0100 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> Message-ID: Dear all Mr Janvier Gnoulaye writes. "Cameroon is in a situation of war against the secessionists, who have at one time erected their flag inside one part of the territory, no one knows by who they are supported and financed. Can some remind Janvier that Boko Haram uses arms that are bought from abroad in their killings of our national and no one deemed it necessary to cut Internet from that part of the territory. Who are the seccesionists? Let him clarify. He talks of people flying flags. So what? When Obama won elections in America did we not see Americans fly the secessionist flags and a petition of over 500 000 South Americans calling for the southern states to opt out of the union?.What nonsense is this about secession? Is the call for state nationalism not same in Corsiga in France, Scotland, Catalona et all. He talks of Cameroon being at war with secessionists, the government of cameroons has killed many anglophones through fire arms since the beginning of the current crisis and many are reported missing. I challenge Monsieur Janvier Gnoulaye to tell the world the name of one Cameroonian soldier that has been killed bu us the "secessionists". In the North we hear of Boko Haram killing Cameroon soldiers. How comes there is war with secessionists and we have mainly secessionists killed. Did great America achieve that in its wars in the American countries. Ladies and gentlemen, let it dawn on you all that ISOC Cameroon is an arm of government. Delphine Nana, (je t'ai copié cet mail) as-tu assisté à la réunion avec Janvier Gnoulaye? Pourquoi est-tu silencieux sur cette affaire? Solidarité francophone oblige n'est ce pas? Y-a-t-il guerre entre les sécessionnistes au Cameroun? Quel est le nom du Général sécessionniste. Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) is my name and I approve the above message On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > P.S. In my previous email, at the end of that sentence where I mention > "political and security issues... on the ground" I would want to insert the > following as a footnote. Whatever the issue at hand and the legitimacy of > fighting against it, it still appears to be the predominant view among CS > that shutting down the Internet does not resolve the problem while taking > related rights and freedoms away from people the overwhelming majority of > whom have nothing to do in causing the problem. Anyone, including from > among concerned ISOC Chapter members, is free to agree with the government > approach on this, or try to justify it, and anyone else is equally free to > disapprove of it. That's basically all IGC is trying to do through this > statement, taking into account in this specific context the kind of > expectations one would hold toward any group of people claiming membership > to ISOC. > > > On Feb 1, 2017 9:18 AM, "Mawaki Chango" wrote: > > Dear Arsène et al. > > We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should not be > approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, on the > world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into endless > debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to take a turn to, > or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we further motivated the > exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the specific communication that > prompted it. > > You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions prove > not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. Apparently he > would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep quiet, on the issue (if > I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your response, I stand to be > corrected.) > > In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions should > suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex political > and security issues that the government might be dealing with on the > ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, maybe Janvier > just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale condemnation of > his country in the global community of civil society. But the email posted > is there including terms and a rationale which are unacceptable to us, and > we needed to express our concern and register our disapproval of such. We > are not making claims as to how hard working and committed ISOC Cameroon > may or may not be toward facilitating Internet access to all in Cameroon, > in ordinary times. > > Mawaki > > > On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" wrote: > > Dear Norbert, Mawaki, > > Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder if anyone > who was not part of these discussions or who will see it for the first time > on our website will be able to understand the background. Just thinking > outloud :) > > I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. I > suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. > > We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate > persons, to follow the process as agreed here. > > Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good sign imo) > and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally sent this > letter. > > Hope this is fine with you'all. > > Thanks, > A > ----------------- > Arsène Tungali, > @arsenebaguma > +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo > > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > > > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow wrote: > > > > Dear Arsène and all > > > > Please find our proposal at > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upP > KnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit > > > > I'm also including the text below. > > > > Greetings, > > Norbert > > > > > > -- draft starts -- > > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > > > Dear Colleagues > > > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, http://igcaucus.org) > > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came > > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information Society > > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet > > governance policy making. > > > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in > > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such > > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. > > > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to > > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for > > Everyone”. > > > > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet access > > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to > > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, > > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ . > > > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully > > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance > > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to > > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. > > > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our > > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, > > President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent > > with the above. > > > > Best regards > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > > > > > > > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org > > > > -- draft ends -- > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 > > Arsène Tungali wrote: > > > >> Dear Norbert, > >> > >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I am > >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that everyone > >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC Global. > >> > >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at least > >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do > >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just > >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the margins > >> of the doc). > >> > >> Regards, > >> A > >> > >> ------------------------ > >> **Arsène Tungali** > >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > >> *, > >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa > >> Forum * > >> Tel: +243 993810967 > >> GPG: 523644A0 > >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > >> > >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > >> la-washington.html> > >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > >> dership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-p > rogramme/Past-Ambassadors> > >> & Mexico > >> dership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) > >> - AFRISIG 2016 - > >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > >> & Marrakech > >> -2016-03-14-en> > >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > >> owship-winners>)* > >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > >> > >> > >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow : > >> > >>> Dear Arsène and all > >>> > >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki > >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. > >>> > >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I > >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At > >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in > >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is > >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers who > >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct as > >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot > >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any Chapter > >>> official's position and put them in the position to be answerable > >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a > >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is already > >>> known. > >>> > >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, > >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should > >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC. > >>> > >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. > >>> > >>> Greetings, > >>> Norbert > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 > >>> Arsène Tungali wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear colleagues, > >>>> > >>>> Starting a new thread. > >>>> > >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about > >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added > >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet > >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more > >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this > >>>> new form of oppression. > >>>> > >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their > >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in > >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon > >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which > >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other > >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other > >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, > >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in > >>>> his country. > >>>> > >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement > >>>> utm_content= > >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_cam > paign=buffer> > >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. > >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support > >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). > >>>> > >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler > >>>> >, > >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: > >>>> > >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing > >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon > >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are > >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and > >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. > >>>> > >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: > >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other > >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the > >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), > >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them > >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. > >>>> > >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of > >>>>> view from Mr. > >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely > >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is > >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In > >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a > >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* > >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC > >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance > >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and > >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us > >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? > >>>> > >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet > >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I > >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as > >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we > >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks > >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the > >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively > >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any > >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers > >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* > >>>> > >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another > >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without > >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to > >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list > >>>> within the next 48 hours. > >>>> > >>>> Very best, > >>>> > >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lorena at collaboratory.de Wed Feb 1 07:39:01 2017 From: lorena at collaboratory.de (Lorena Jaume-Palasi) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 13:39:01 +0100 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Aaron, there you go from the official gov. page. Both the first amendment and the last additions on 2015. Here you can see the WHOLE TEXT https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/01/21/united-states-begins-implementation-changes-visa-waiver-program and let me quote the parts that is FUNDAMENTALLY different to Trump's EO These individuals will still be able to apply for a visa using the regular immigration process at our embassies or consulates. For those who need a U.S. visa for urgent business, medical, or humanitarian travel to the United States, U.S. embassies and consulates stand ready to process applications on an expedited basis. AND As a general matter, categories of travelers who may be eligible for a waiver include: - Individuals who traveled to Iran, Iraq, Sudan or Syria on behalf of international organizations, regional organizations, and sub-national governments on official duty; - Individuals who traveled to Iran, Iraq, Sudan or Syria on behalf of a humanitarian NGO on official duty; - Individuals who traveled to Iran, Iraq, Sudan or Syria as a journalist for reporting purposes; - Individuals who traveled to Iran for legitimate business-related purposes following the conclusion of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (July 14, 2015); and - Individuals who have traveled to Iraq for legitimate business-related purposes. AND Any traveler who receives notification that they are no longer eligible to travel under the VWP are still eligible to travel to the United States with a valid nonimmigrant visa issued by a U.S. embassy or consulate. Such travelers will be required to appear for an interview and obtain a visa in their passports at a U.S. embassy or consulate before traveling to the United States. The new law does not ban travel to the United States, or admission into the United States, and the great majority of VWP travelers will not be affected by the legislation. Here the last additions: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/02/18/dhs-announces-further-travel-restrictions-visa-waiver-program And to conclude please read the original EO on refugee admissions signed by Obama (in contrast to the no-refugee politics of Trump) https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2014/09/30/presidential-memorandum-fy-2015-refugee-admissions - Cheers - Lorena 2017-02-01 13:09 GMT+01:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron : > Raoul > > You should have simply posted the Obama E.O in question instead of > smearing me with hundreths of EOs from Obama.His spokesman told newsmen > last sunday that what Trump did was just less than wht Obama did. I > expected those who opposed that to counter with a posting of the Obama O.E. > The countray to me is the weepings of sour loosers. > > Breaking news to you Raoul > > By coming out in total breach of tradition, Obama has sealed the democrats > to remain in the cold for 8 years. You can quote me the African. I read > these signs to predict a Trump win - I am no trumpist anyway. But I have > finally come to admire his bullish attitude in taking on the establishment > that has taken the world hostage. That to me is great endeavours. My fears > are that he may end up getting the JF Kennedy dose > > Oh, you still have to wait for that apology from me until the ultimate > time > > Agien Nyangkwe > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Raoul Plommer wrote: > >> This pretty well sums it up: >> >> "Under the [Obama's] law, dual citizens of visa-waiver countries and >> Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria could no longer travel to the U.S. without a >> visa. Dual citizens of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen could, however, still use >> the visa-waiver program if they hadn't traveled to any of the seven >> countries after March 2011. >> >> Trump's order is much broader. It bans all citizens from those seven >> countries from entering the U.S. and leaves green card holders subject to >> being rescreened after visiting those countries. >> >> The executive order specifically invoked the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist >> attacks. A senior Trump administration official also pointed to the 2015 >> shooting rampage in San Bernardino, California, to justify the President's >> orders although neither of the attackers in the shooting would've been >> affected by the new ban." >> >> http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/29/politics/how-the-trump-adm >> inistration-chose-the-7-countries/ >> >> -Raoul >> >> On 1 February 2017 at 13:30, Raoul Plommer wrote: >> >>> Nyangkwe, like you say, facts are facts. The problem is, that you have >>> been fed something else than facts. You can check the facts represented in >>> the article I linked to and FYI, the executive orders are public >>> information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ >>> List_of_executive_actions_by_Barack_Obama >>> >>> The whole point of the story was a concerted effort to normalise Trump's >>> damaging policy, by trying to mislead people into thinking that this policy >>> was already made by Obama. That is simply not true. >>> >>> Here's a handy little table on the countries affected: >>> https://www.instagram.com/p/BP1fHbKAwZC/ >>> >>> -Raoul >>> >>> On 1 February 2017 at 13:10, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron < >>> nyangkweagien at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> My Dear Raoul >>>> >>>> Facts are facts. A fact is the Executive order signed by Trump and >>>> referenced in that article by Jon Finer. But Finer failed whoefully in >>>> reporting the other side of the story by referring us with a link to the >>>> Obama Executive order. His explainations are ner not facts because the fact >>>> is that order that must be read by all and sundry. Why is Foreign Policy (I >>>> read it regularly) refusing to publish the Obama E.O? >>>> Sorry Jon Finer, yours was some jaundized stuff. The world is not more >>>> unidirectional as some of you in the establishment tink. >>>> >>>> No apology UNTIL THE OBAMA E.O IS PULISHED IN ITS ENTIRETY >>>> >>>> Some can continue to vent their spleen at us. We have no qualms >>>> >>>> Agien Nyangwe (Aaron) >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Raoul Plommer >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1 Lorena >>>>> >>>>> Here's another debunking article, with five solid points: >>>>> https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30/sorry-mr-presid >>>>> ent-the-obama-administration-did-nothing-similar-to-your-imm >>>>> igration-ban/ >>>>> >>>>> I would like Nyangkwe to acknowledge these articles and admit, that he >>>>> was wrong to accuse people of hypocrisy in this case. >>>>> >>>>> -Raoul >>>>> >>>>> On 1 February 2017 at 07:51, David Cake wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Trump policies seem, on the face of it, implicitly hostile to the >>>>>> methods of any efforts that are not unilaterally lead by the US government, >>>>>> and unlikely to contribute usefully to multi-stakeholder dialogues, or to >>>>>> be supportive of multi-stakeholder institutions. Travel policies are >>>>>> already proving problematic. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m certainly quite pleased that he IANA Transition was completed, >>>>>> and we have a lot less to worry about from unilateral US efforts to >>>>>> influence ICANN etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> The White House is not the entire US government. Hopefully, >>>>>> multi-stakeholder efforts will prove resilient to the efforts of a single >>>>>> radical government, even the US. >>>>>> >>>>>> David >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Jan 2017, at 10:35 am, Michael Gurstein >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context >>>>>> of Mr. Trump’s America First-ism? >>>>>> >>>>>> Asking for a friend… >>>>>> >>>>>> M >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>>> >>>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>>> >>>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >>>> P.O.Box 5213 >>>> Douala-Cameroon >>>> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 <6%2073%2042%2071%2027> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > Aaron Agien NYANGKWE > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance Arbeitsgruppe Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ Youtube -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 07:46:36 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 13:46:36 +0100 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? Message-ID: Delphine Toutes mes condoléances à toi et ta fille pour cette énorme. Comme quelqu'un qui a perdu sa conjointe, je comprends la situation de votre fille. Elle a toute ma sympathie Vraiment, perdre son ordinateur, c'est perdre une partie de sa vie. Vraiment terrible. Je te connais très forte et capable de surmonter toute épreuve à brève échéance. Du courage, ma sœur. When you get to Yaounde, please talk to Janvier that he is helping a government and doing terrible harm to the Cameroonian people by spewing the nonsense that he states here. When he talks of WAR against secessionists, is that appropriate? If that is not appropriate, how does he expect the world to look at the world to look at our government and then us the citizens? No one has ever shocked me in my over 60 years on earth like Monsieur Janvier Gnoulaye. Can you join me to ask Mister Janvier Gnoulaye to tell the world the number of Cameroonian soldiers that have been killed by the "secessionists" that he claim since we all know how many have been killed by Boko Haram. His condescending mood on anglophones like his francophone likes bothers me less With love Aaron On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 1:26 PM, NANA Delphine wrote: > Bonjour Aaron, > > Malheureusement, je n'ai pas assisté.à l'AG de ISOC CAMEROUN et je ne suis > non plus sur cette liste. > Je viens juste de decouvrir tous les message, > En plus, depuis de le debut de la crise, je suis indisponible sur le net, > ma fille a perdu son epoux, il vient d"être enterré, il ya une semaine > > Pire encore, pendant que j"etais aux obsèques mon ordinateur a été volé. > Image son contenu ! Je suis meurtrie. > > Je suis perdue ! > Toutes mes excuses. > Delphine > > > Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour Android > > > Le mer. j févr. PM à 12:43, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron > a écrit : > Dear all > > Mr Janvier Gnoulaye writes. > "Cameroon is in a situation of war against the secessionists, who have at > one time erected their flag inside one part of the territory, no one knows > by who they are supported and financed. > > Can some remind Janvier that Boko Haram uses arms that are bought from > abroad in their killings of our national and no one deemed it necessary to > cut Internet from that part of the territory. > Who are the seccesionists? Let him clarify. He talks of people flying > flags. So what? When Obama won elections in America did we not see > Americans fly the secessionist flags and a petition of over 500 000 South > Americans calling for the southern states to opt out of the union?.What > nonsense is this about secession? Is the call for state nationalism not > same in Corsiga in France, Scotland, Catalona et all. > > He talks of Cameroon being at war with secessionists, the government of > cameroons has killed many anglophones through fire arms since the beginning > of the current crisis and many are reported missing. I challenge Monsieur > Janvier Gnoulaye to tell the world the name of one Cameroonian soldier that > has been killed bu us the "secessionists". In the North we hear of Boko > Haram killing Cameroon soldiers. How comes there is war with secessionists > and we have mainly secessionists killed. Did great America achieve that in > its wars in the American countries. Ladies and gentlemen, let it dawn on > you all that ISOC Cameroon is an arm of government. > > Delphine Nana, (je t'ai copié cet mail) as-tu assisté à la réunion avec > Janvier Gnoulaye? Pourquoi est-tu silencieux sur cette affaire? Solidarité > francophone oblige n'est ce pas? Y-a-t-il guerre entre les sécessionnistes > au Cameroun? Quel est le nom du Général sécessionniste. > > Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) is my name and I approve the above message > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > >> P.S. In my previous email, at the end of that sentence where I mention >> "political and security issues... on the ground" I would want to insert the >> following as a footnote. Whatever the issue at hand and the legitimacy of >> fighting against it, it still appears to be the predominant view among CS >> that shutting down the Internet does not resolve the problem while taking >> related rights and freedoms away from people the overwhelming majority of >> whom have nothing to do in causing the problem. Anyone, including from >> among concerned ISOC Chapter members, is free to agree with the government >> approach on this, or try to justify it, and anyone else is equally free to >> disapprove of it. That's basically all IGC is trying to do through this >> statement, taking into account in this specific context the kind of >> expectations one would hold toward any group of people claiming membership >> to ISOC. >> >> >> On Feb 1, 2017 9:18 AM, "Mawaki Chango" wrote: >> >> Dear Arsène et al. >> >> We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should not be >> approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, on the >> world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into endless >> debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to take a turn to, >> or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we further motivated the >> exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the specific communication that >> prompted it. >> >> You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions >> prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. Apparently >> he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep quiet, on the issue >> (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your response, I stand >> to be corrected.) >> >> In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions >> should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex >> political and security issues that the government might be dealing with on >> the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, maybe Janvier >> just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale condemnation of >> his country in the global community of civil society. But the email posted >> is there including terms and a rationale which are unacceptable to us, and >> we needed to express our concern and register our disapproval of such. We >> are not making claims as to how hard working and committed ISOC Cameroon >> may or may not be toward facilitating Internet access to all in Cameroon, >> in ordinary times. >> >> Mawaki >> >> >> On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" wrote: >> >> Dear Norbert, Mawaki, >> >> Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder if >> anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it for the >> first time on our website will be able to understand the background. Just >> thinking outloud :) >> >> I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. I >> suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. >> >> We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate >> persons, to follow the process as agreed here. >> >> Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good sign imo) >> and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally sent this >> letter. >> >> Hope this is fine with you'all. >> >> Thanks, >> A >> ----------------- >> Arsène Tungali, >> @arsenebaguma >> +243 993810967 >> GPG: 523644A0 >> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >> >> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) >> >> > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow wrote: >> > >> > Dear Arsène and all >> > >> > Please find our proposal at >> > >> > https://docs.google.com/docume nt/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upP >> KnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit >> >> > >> > I'm also including the text below. >> > >> > Greetings, >> > Norbert >> > >> > >> > -- draft starts -- >> > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter >> > >> > Dear Colleagues >> > >> > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, http://igcaucus.org) >> > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came >> > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information Society >> > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet >> > governance policy making. >> > >> > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in >> > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such >> > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. >> > >> > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to >> > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for >> > Everyone”. >> > >> > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet access >> > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to >> > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, >> > http://africaninternetrights.o rg/articles/ >> . >> > >> > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully >> > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance >> > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to >> > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. >> > >> > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our >> > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, >> > President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent >> > with the above. >> > >> > Best regards >> > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) >> > >> > >> > >> > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org >> > >> > -- draft ends -- >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 >> > Arsène Tungali wrote: >> > >> >> Dear Norbert, >> >> >> >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I am >> >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that everyone >> >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC Global. >> >> >> >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at least >> >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do >> >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just >> >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the margins >> >> of the doc). >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> A >> >> >> >> ------------------------ >> >> **Arsène Tungali** >> >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >> >> >> >*, >> >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >> >> Forum * >> >> Tel: +243 993810967 >> >> GPG: 523644A0 >> >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >> >> >> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >> >> > la-washington.html >> >> > >> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >> >> > dership-programmes/next-genera tion-leaders/igf-ambassadors-p >> rogramme/Past-Ambassadors >> >> > >> >> & Mexico >> >> > dership-programmes/next-genera tion-leaders/Current-Ambassado rs >> >> >) >> >> - AFRISIG 2016 > > - >> >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >> >> > > & Marrakech >> >> > -2016-03-14-en >> >> > >> >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >> >> > owship-winners >> >> >)* >> >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >> >> > > >> >> >> >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow : >> >> >> >>> Dear Arsène and all >> >>> >> >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki >> >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. >> >>> >> >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I >> >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At >> >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in >> >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is >> >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers who >> >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct as >> >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot >> >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any Chapter >> >>> official's position and put them in the position to be answerable >> >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a >> >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is already >> >>> known. >> >>> >> >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, >> >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should >> >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC. >> >>> >> >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. >> >>> >> >>> Greetings, >> >>> Norbert >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 >> >>> Arsène Tungali wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Dear colleagues, >> >>>> >> >>>> Starting a new thread. >> >>>> >> >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about >> >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added >> >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet >> >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more >> >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this >> >>>> new form of oppression. >> >>>> >> >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their >> >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in >> >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon >> >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which >> >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other >> >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other >> >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, >> >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in >> >>>> his country. >> >>>> >> >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement >> >>>> > utm_content= >> >> >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social& utm_source=twitter.com&utm_cam >> paign=buffer> >> >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. >> >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support >> >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). >> >>>> >> >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler >> >>>> > s-seidler >> >, >> >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: >> >>>> >> >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing >> >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon >> >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are >> >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and >> >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. >> >>>> >> >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: >> >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other >> >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the >> >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), >> >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them >> >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. >> >>>> >> >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of >> >>>>> view from Mr. >> >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely >> >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is >> >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In >> >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a >> >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* >> >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC >> >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance >> >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and >> >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us >> >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? >> >>>> >> >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet >> >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I >> >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as >> >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we >> >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks >> >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the >> >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively >> >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any >> >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers >> >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* >> >>>> >> >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another >> >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without >> >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to >> >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list >> >>>> within the next 48 hours. >> >>>> >> >>>> Very best, >> >>>> >> >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator >> > >> > ______________________________ ______________________________ >> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> > To be removed from the list, visit: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsub scribing >> >> > >> > For all other list information and functions, see: >> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/inf o/governance >> >> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> > >> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/tr anslate_t >> >> >> >> ______________________________ ______________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsub scribing >> >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/inf o/governance >> >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/tr anslate_t >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________ ______________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ unsubscribing >> >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/ info/governance >> >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/ translate_t >> >> >> > > > -- > Aaron Agien NYANGKWE > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 <6%2073%2042%2071%2027> > > > > > > > > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From tapani.tarvainen at effi.org Wed Feb 1 08:12:49 2017 From: tapani.tarvainen at effi.org (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 15:12:49 +0200 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20170201131249.7syfyy7ftd2gy7lb@tarvainen.info> On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 01:39:01PM +0100, Lorena Jaume-Palasi (lorena at collaboratory.de) wrote: > And to conclude please read the original EO on refugee admissions signed by > Obama (in contrast to the no-refugee politics of Trump) > > https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2014/09/30/presidential-memorandum-fy-2015-refugee-admissions To pick a small nit, that's not an Executive Order but a Presidential Memorandum (Determination), although colloquially memoranda are sometimes included under the term EO. -- Tapani Tarvainen -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 08:24:01 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 14:24:01 +0100 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: <20170201131249.7syfyy7ftd2gy7lb@tarvainen.info> References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> <20170201131249.7syfyy7ftd2gy7lb@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Hi Tapani Yep! That is how the establishment gang believe that they can strample on us the proletariat. Their fear is that Trump, who is not one of theirs, will expose them. I have never been to America but have read read and discussed a lot about America. Trump should give a new face to that America. I mean the one of Jefferson or the one of JF Kennedy. The Trilateral, CFR, Bildeberg, Soros et el should give the American people a breathing space Pass this message from an African to the valiant American people Agien Nyangkwe On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 01:39:01PM +0100, Lorena Jaume-Palasi ( > lorena at collaboratory.de) wrote: > > > > And to conclude please read the original EO on refugee admissions signed > by > > Obama (in contrast to the no-refugee politics of Trump) > > > > https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/ > 2014/09/30/presidential-memorandum-fy-2015-refugee-admissions > > To pick a small nit, that's not an Executive Order but a Presidential > Memorandum (Determination), although colloquially memoranda are sometimes > included under the term EO. > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 08:34:53 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 14:34:53 +0100 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What a Cameroonian Havard Scholar is saying on the Anglophone prohlem in Cameroon "Communication blackout and internet shutdown in the Anglophone regions is an unbelievable national shame that lowers our nation’s prestige in the comity of nations" Ekinneh Agbaw Ebai An open letter to HE Paul Biya, President of the Republic Your Excellency, I am deliberately adopting an uncommon open letter approach to draw your attention to the ongoing carnage by security forces, who are perpetrating what some are now calling genocide and crimes against humanity against Anglophones in the Northwest and Southwest regions of the country. A lot has been said about the Anglophone problem, which you acknowledged in your traditional year-end address to the nation. But it appears you have a superficial understanding of the problem; in which case, I am compelled to school you on the problem, so you can end the nation’s drift and save Cameroon from the looming anarchy. Mr. President, we should stop chasing shadows. The Anglophone problem is not about promoting bilingualism or multiculturalism. I will spare you an academic definition, but for practical purposes, the Anglophone problem is the systemic marginalization and institutionalized discrimination against people of the former Southern Cameroon state, who have been reduced to second-class citizens in a country they voted to join as equal partners. It is the plunder and gross mismanagement of their resources, to finance a Cameroon state, captured and held hostage by a vampire elite of tribal bigots and jingoists; corrupt politicians and rent-seeking bureaucrats, operating a system of ethnic -inspired clientelism with mindless impunity. The resulting frustration and anger have caused Anglophones to lose faith in the Cameroon project and now want a return to federalism or outright separation from the Cameroon state. This is the Anglophone problem, Mr. President, so let’s discuss it! As the bread basket of the nation, producing over 60% of national GDP, Anglophones have every reason to be angry, especially when government deliberately and provocatively breaches the social contract with the people; while plundering their natural resources - oil, gold, timber, coffee, cocoa, tea, rubber, banana, palm oil - and flaunting it on their faces. It is unacceptable that 55 years after reunification, Anglophones still lack basic social amenities that ought to be taken for granted like constant power supply, potable water, tarred roads, well equipped schools, functional hospitals and health centers. Mr. President, if all the resources government has been exploiting from Anglophone Cameroon were in the South; your region of origin, would your Bulu kith and kin accept to be deprived of the benefits of the exploitation of their resources? Do you now understand why Anglophones are angry? Mr. President, the obnoxious argument that we are all Cameroonians and this somehow gives government the right to exploit our resources, while Anglophones are left wallowing in abject poverty is provocative, insensitive and self-serving. This daylight robbery of Anglophones has had its day, and must now end in the interest of peace and stability. Anglophones are not fools; we want to belong to a united Cameroon freely built on equality and fairness; where we are treated as equals; a Cameroon where there are no masters and servants, and where merit prevails; not a nation built around ethnic and primordial identities. Simply put, Anglophones want a federal Cameroon, where they can manage their own affairs. And if Mr. President cannot guarantee such a Cameroon, then like the Biblical Egyptian King Pharaoh, you must let my people go. And go they will, peacefully if possible and violently if necessary. For sure, Anglophones are saying what all Cameroonians already know: that the country is not working, can hardly work as structured and that it is in a stasis with a likelihood of implosion. You must heed these timely admonitions. Anglophones have suffered immeasurably from the scourge of predatory politics and want a national forum, whether sovereign or not, to review the structure of the state and the organization of the economic base in terms of ownership and control of resources as well as a new, fair and equitable distribution formula for the proceeds from exploitation of our natural resources. Mr. President, now that you understand the Anglophone problem, it should be obvious to you and anyone not blinded by prejudice or self-interest that the bureaucratic contraption you created called National Commission to Promote Bilingualism and Multiculturalism (NCPBM) cannot resolve the Anglophone problem. You must transcend the traction of hawks and hardliners in your “Situation Room” and do what is right for the country. It certainly is an unimaginable feat of political miscalculation and error of judgment for Mr. President to think he can just decree a solution to the Anglophone problem without addressing the asymmetrical structural dynamics that engender and perpetrate the Anglophone problem. Most Anglophones are functionally bilingual and there have been many marriages between Anglophone and Francophone tribes, so bilingualism and multiculturalism is not the problem. The country needs a new federal constitution, not a NCPBM. The Anglophone problem is a Cameroonian problem and resolving it requires presidential leadership. Anglophones are protesting because they want a better Cameroon for all its citizens. The ongoing strike is an invitation to build a patriotic partnership to save Cameroon, because as the country stands today, no force on earth can eliminate corruption. You cannot continue to ignore calls for a national dialogue to reform the structure of the state and work out modalities of ensuring good governance; through a federal system of government that guarantees equal opportunity, and engenders a sense of belonging in all citizens. Sitting down with Anglophones is not a gallant surrender to pressure; rather, it will be an act of political sagacity and the first step towards rebuilding Cameroon and remolding its sovereignty. Mr. President, it is indeed perplexing that the government has answered the call for dialogue with threats, intimidation, coercion and crude force; adopting the failed crisis control mechanism of go-back-to-work or-be-sacked, to end the teachers strike shame. Please, be reminded that education is a constitutional issue. The constitution, which you swore to uphold, bestows the right to education on every citizen. That children in Anglophone regions remain out of school despite your repeated intervention, is a shameful representation of leadership failure; a tell-tale sign of how the magisterial capacity of your office has been undermined and shows how far we have failed as a nation. Certainly, Mr. President cannot pretend to be unaware that Anglophone regions have been reduced to a killing field where soldiers and agents of death are on the rampage, unleashing mayhem on defenceless civilians. Peaceful protests have been met with horrendous brutality by security forces. Anglophone opinion leaders including a Justice of the Supreme Court have been arrested without due process and detained on bogus charges. University students have been abducted, brutalized, tortured, raped and killed simply for exercising their constitutionally guaranteed right to free speech and peaceful assembly. These egregious human rights violations fly in the face of our obligations under signed and ratified international treaties, and are telling signs of a weak governance culture. It is disheartening that the situation persists, even as I write. Mr. President, many Anglophones of goodwill for whom the Cameroon project remains an unanswered question, have been willing to give peace a chance. But we are finding ourselves increasingly in the minority because it is useless and futile to continue talking peace and nonviolence to a government whose reply is only violence on unarmed and defenseless people. Southern Cameroon is a state; we are not a conquered people. As the blood of the victims of government’s barbarism, still raw on the pavement of our hearts cry out ever more loudly for justice, sooner, rather than later, Anglophones will resort to violence in legitimate self-defence as this seems to be the only language the government has shown by its own behavior that it understands. This is not a threat, Mr. President, it is a real possibility! Your Excellency, I am not unaware that the office you occupy is a tough, thoughtful, burdensome and sacrificial position that demands self-discipline, gumption, prudence and political sagacity. Although misconstrued to be laden with unbelievable privileges, a president must feel the pangs of responsibility and use his elevated position for the good of the nation in a clear display of focused leadership because preserving peace and harmony is the highest objective of statecraft. I am therefore alarmed that in this age and time, a supposedly democratic government will refuse dialogue and resort to brigandage in dealing with dissent by a group of its citizens. Mr. President, the criminalization of free speech and civil liberties including the communication blackout and internet shutdown in the Anglophone regions is an unbelievable national shame that lowers our nation’s prestige in the comity of nations. This must stop. On this basis, Mr. President, leadership is the issue. You should be concerned with the future that you bequeath this country, as well as your legacy. History is beckoning on you and giving you a chance at winning the battle for self-redemption and national rebirth. It is a lifetime opportunity to engrave your name in history. Should you fail to call a national conference to resolve the Anglophone problem, your name will still find its way into the book of infamy, historic still, in a way, as the man who was opportune to rewrite the history of Cameroon but failed needlessly. The choice is patently yours to make. Mr. President, I hate to be the one to say this, but before I go, I must tell you that token measures of appeasement, like the NCPBM will not succeed where violence and intimidation have failed in resolving the Anglophone problem. And even if soldiers kill every Anglophone in Cameroon, our ghosts shall rise from our graves to seek freedom and demand justice. Thanks for reading, and accept, Mr. President, my most esteemed consideration for your good self and exalted office. By Ekinneh Agbaw-Ebai On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron < nyangkweagien at gmail.com> wrote: > Delphine > > Toutes mes condoléances à toi et ta fille pour cette énorme. > Comme quelqu'un qui a perdu sa conjointe, je comprends la situation de > votre fille. Elle a toute ma sympathie > > Vraiment, perdre son ordinateur, c'est perdre une partie de sa vie. > Vraiment terrible. Je te connais très forte et capable de surmonter toute > épreuve à brève échéance. Du courage, ma sœur. > > When you get to Yaounde, please talk to Janvier that he is helping a > government and doing terrible harm to the Cameroonian people by spewing the > nonsense that he states here. When he talks of WAR against secessionists, > is that appropriate? If that is not appropriate, how does he expect the > world to look at the world to look at our government and then us the > citizens? No one has ever shocked me in my over 60 years on earth like > Monsieur Janvier Gnoulaye. > > Can you join me to ask Mister Janvier Gnoulaye to tell the world the > number of Cameroonian soldiers that have been killed by the "secessionists" > that he claim since we all know how many have been killed by Boko Haram. > His condescending mood on anglophones like his francophone likes bothers me > less > > With love > > Aaron > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 1:26 PM, NANA Delphine > wrote: > >> Bonjour Aaron, >> >> Malheureusement, je n'ai pas assisté.à l'AG de ISOC CAMEROUN et je ne >> suis non plus sur cette liste. >> Je viens juste de decouvrir tous les message, >> En plus, depuis de le debut de la crise, je suis indisponible sur le net, >> ma fille a perdu son epoux, il vient d"être enterré, il ya une semaine >> >> Pire encore, pendant que j"etais aux obsèques mon ordinateur a été volé. >> Image son contenu ! Je suis meurtrie. >> >> Je suis perdue ! >> Toutes mes excuses. >> Delphine >> >> >> Envoyé depuis Yahoo Mail pour Android >> >> >> Le mer. j févr. PM à 12:43, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron >> a écrit : >> Dear all >> >> Mr Janvier Gnoulaye writes. >> "Cameroon is in a situation of war against the secessionists, who have >> at one time erected their flag inside one part of the territory, no one >> knows by who they are supported and financed. >> >> Can some remind Janvier that Boko Haram uses arms that are bought from >> abroad in their killings of our national and no one deemed it necessary to >> cut Internet from that part of the territory. >> Who are the seccesionists? Let him clarify. He talks of people flying >> flags. So what? When Obama won elections in America did we not see >> Americans fly the secessionist flags and a petition of over 500 000 South >> Americans calling for the southern states to opt out of the union?.What >> nonsense is this about secession? Is the call for state nationalism not >> same in Corsiga in France, Scotland, Catalona et all. >> >> He talks of Cameroon being at war with secessionists, the government of >> cameroons has killed many anglophones through fire arms since the beginning >> of the current crisis and many are reported missing. I challenge Monsieur >> Janvier Gnoulaye to tell the world the name of one Cameroonian soldier that >> has been killed bu us the "secessionists". In the North we hear of Boko >> Haram killing Cameroon soldiers. How comes there is war with secessionists >> and we have mainly secessionists killed. Did great America achieve that in >> its wars in the American countries. Ladies and gentlemen, let it dawn on >> you all that ISOC Cameroon is an arm of government. >> >> Delphine Nana, (je t'ai copié cet mail) as-tu assisté à la réunion avec >> Janvier Gnoulaye? Pourquoi est-tu silencieux sur cette affaire? Solidarité >> francophone oblige n'est ce pas? Y-a-t-il guerre entre les sécessionnistes >> au Cameroun? Quel est le nom du Général sécessionniste. >> >> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron) is my name and I approve the above message >> >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Mawaki Chango >> wrote: >> >>> P.S. In my previous email, at the end of that sentence where I mention >>> "political and security issues... on the ground" I would want to insert the >>> following as a footnote. Whatever the issue at hand and the legitimacy of >>> fighting against it, it still appears to be the predominant view among CS >>> that shutting down the Internet does not resolve the problem while taking >>> related rights and freedoms away from people the overwhelming majority of >>> whom have nothing to do in causing the problem. Anyone, including from >>> among concerned ISOC Chapter members, is free to agree with the government >>> approach on this, or try to justify it, and anyone else is equally free to >>> disapprove of it. That's basically all IGC is trying to do through this >>> statement, taking into account in this specific context the kind of >>> expectations one would hold toward any group of people claiming membership >>> to ISOC. >>> >>> >>> On Feb 1, 2017 9:18 AM, "Mawaki Chango" wrote: >>> >>> Dear Arsène et al. >>> >>> We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should not be >>> approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, on the >>> world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into endless >>> debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to take a turn to, >>> or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we further motivated the >>> exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the specific communication that >>> prompted it. >>> >>> You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions >>> prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. Apparently >>> he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep quiet, on the issue >>> (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your response, I stand >>> to be corrected.) >>> >>> In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions >>> should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex >>> political and security issues that the government might be dealing with on >>> the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, maybe Janvier >>> just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale condemnation of >>> his country in the global community of civil society. But the email posted >>> is there including terms and a rationale which are unacceptable to us, and >>> we needed to express our concern and register our disapproval of such. We >>> are not making claims as to how hard working and committed ISOC Cameroon >>> may or may not be toward facilitating Internet access to all in Cameroon, >>> in ordinary times. >>> >>> Mawaki >>> >>> >>> On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" wrote: >>> >>> Dear Norbert, Mawaki, >>> >>> Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder if >>> anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it for the >>> first time on our website will be able to understand the background. Just >>> thinking outloud :) >>> >>> I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. I >>> suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. >>> >>> We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate >>> persons, to follow the process as agreed here. >>> >>> Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good sign imo) >>> and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally sent this >>> letter. >>> >>> Hope this is fine with you'all. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> A >>> ----------------- >>> Arsène Tungali, >>> @arsenebaguma >>> +243 993810967 >>> GPG: 523644A0 >>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) >>> >>> > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow wrote: >>> > >>> > Dear Arsène and all >>> > >>> > Please find our proposal at >>> > >>> > https://docs.google.com/docume nt/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upP >>> KnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit >>> >>> > >>> > I'm also including the text below. >>> > >>> > Greetings, >>> > Norbert >>> > >>> > >>> > -- draft starts -- >>> > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter >>> > >>> > Dear Colleagues >>> > >>> > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, http://igcaucus.org >>> ) >>> > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came >>> > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information Society >>> > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet >>> > governance policy making. >>> > >>> > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in >>> > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such >>> > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. >>> > >>> > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to >>> > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for >>> > Everyone”. >>> > >>> > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet access >>> > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to >>> > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, >>> > http://africaninternetrights.o rg/articles/ >>> . >>> >>> > >>> > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully >>> > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance >>> > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to >>> > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. >>> > >>> > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our >>> > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, >>> > President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent >>> > with the above. >>> > >>> > Best regards >>> > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org >>> > >>> > -- draft ends -- >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 >>> > Arsène Tungali wrote: >>> > >>> >> Dear Norbert, >>> >> >>> >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I am >>> >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that everyone >>> >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC Global. >>> >> >>> >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at least >>> >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do >>> >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just >>> >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the margins >>> >> of the doc). >>> >> >>> >> Regards, >>> >> A >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------ >>> >> **Arsène Tungali** >>> >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>> >> >>> >*, >>> >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>> >> Forum * >>> >> Tel: +243 993810967 >>> >> GPG: 523644A0 >>> >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>> >> >>> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>> >> >> la-washington.html >>> >>> > >>> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>> >> >> dership-programmes/next-genera tion-leaders/igf-ambassadors-p >>> rogramme/Past-Ambassadors >>> >>> > >>> >> & Mexico >>> >> >> dership-programmes/next-genera tion-leaders/Current-Ambassado rs >>> >>> >) >>> >> - AFRISIG 2016 >> > - >>> >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>> >> >> > & Marrakech >>> >> >> -2016-03-14-en >>> >>> > >>> >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>> >> >> owship-winners >>> >>> >)* >>> >>> >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow : >>> >> >>> >>> Dear Arsène and all >>> >>> >>> >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki >>> >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. >>> >>> >>> >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I >>> >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At >>> >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in >>> >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is >>> >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers who >>> >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct as >>> >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot >>> >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any Chapter >>> >>> official's position and put them in the position to be answerable >>> >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a >>> >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is already >>> >>> known. >>> >>> >>> >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, >>> >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should >>> >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC. >>> >>> >>> >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. >>> >>> >>> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> Norbert >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 >>> >>> Arsène Tungali wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Dear colleagues, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Starting a new thread. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about >>> >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added >>> >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet >>> >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more >>> >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this >>> >>>> new form of oppression. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their >>> >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in >>> >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon >>> >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which >>> >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other >>> >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other >>> >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, >>> >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in >>> >>>> his country. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement >>> >>>> >> utm_content= >>> >>> >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social& utm_source=twitter.com&utm_cam >>> paign=buffer> >>> >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. >>> >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support >>> >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). >>> >>>> >>> >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler >>> >>>> >> s-seidler >>> >, >>> >>> >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing >>> >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon >>> >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are >>> >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and >>> >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: >>> >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other >>> >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the >>> >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), >>> >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them >>> >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of >>> >>>>> view from Mr. >>> >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely >>> >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is >>> >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In >>> >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a >>> >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* >>> >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC >>> >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance >>> >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and >>> >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us >>> >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet >>> >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I >>> >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as >>> >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we >>> >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks >>> >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the >>> >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively >>> >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any >>> >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers >>> >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another >>> >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without >>> >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to >>> >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list >>> >>>> within the next 48 hours. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Very best, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator >>> > >>> > ______________________________ ______________________________ >>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> > To be removed from the list, visit: >>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsub scribing >>> >>> > >>> > For all other list information and functions, see: >>> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/inf o/governance >>> >>> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> > >>> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/tr anslate_t >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________ ______________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsub scribing >>> >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/inf o/governance >>> >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/tr anslate_t >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________ ______________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ unsubscribing >>> >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/ info/governance >>> >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/ translate_t >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >> P.O.Box 5213 >> Douala-Cameroon >> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 <6%2073%2042%2071%2027> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Aaron Agien NYANGKWE > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 <6%2073%2042%2071%2027> > > > > > > > > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Wed Feb 1 10:15:22 2017 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 17:15:22 +0200 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> Message-ID: <33b0a7d8-8eab-50d9-0fa8-c0e66346ec4b@apc.org> The letter looks very good to me. Apologies for missing the deadline. Anriette On 01/02/2017 11:18, Mawaki Chango wrote: > Dear Arsène et al. > > We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should not be > approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, on the > world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into > endless debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to take > a turn to, or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we further > motivated the exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the specific > communication that prompted it. > > You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions > prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. > Apparently he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep quiet, > on the issue (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your > response, I stand to be corrected.) > > In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions > should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex > political and security issues that the government might be dealing with > on the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, maybe > Janvier just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale > condemnation of his country in the global community of civil society. > But the email posted is there including terms and a rationale which are > unacceptable to us, and we needed to express our concern and register > our disapproval of such. We are not making claims as to how hard working > and committed ISOC Cameroon may or may not be toward facilitating > Internet access to all in Cameroon, in ordinary times. > > Mawaki > > On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" > wrote: > > Dear Norbert, Mawaki, > > Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder if > anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it for > the first time on our website will be able to understand the > background. Just thinking outloud :) > > I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. I > suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. > > We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate > persons, to follow the process as agreed here. > > Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good sign > imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally > sent this letter. > > Hope this is fine with you'all. > > Thanks, > A > ----------------- > Arsène Tungali, > @arsenebaguma > +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo > > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > > > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow > wrote: > > > > Dear Arsène and all > > > > Please find our proposal at > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upPKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit > > > > > I'm also including the text below. > > > > Greetings, > > Norbert > > > > > > -- draft starts -- > > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > > > Dear Colleagues > > > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, > http://igcaucus.org) > > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came > > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information Society > > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet > > governance policy making. > > > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in > > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such > > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. > > > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to > > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for > > Everyone”. > > > > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet access > > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to > > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, > > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ > . > > > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully > > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance > > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to > > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. > > > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our > > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, > > President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent > > with the above. > > > > Best regards > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > > > > > > > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org > > > > > -- draft ends -- > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 > > Arsène Tungali > wrote: > > > >> Dear Norbert, > >> > >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I am > >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that everyone > >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC Global. > >> > >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at least > >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do > >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just > >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the margins > >> of the doc). > >> > >> Regards, > >> A > >> > >> ------------------------ > >> **Arsène Tungali** > >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > >> >*, > >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa > >> Forum * > >> Tel: +243 993810967 > >> GPG: 523644A0 > >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > >> > >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > >> > > > >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > >> > > > >> & Mexico > >> > >) > >> - AFRISIG 2016 > - > >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > >> > & Marrakech > >> > > > >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > >> > >)* > >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > >> > > >> > >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow >: > >> > >>> Dear Arsène and all > >>> > >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki > >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. > >>> > >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I > >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At > >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in > >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is > >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers who > >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct as > >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot > >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any Chapter > >>> official's position and put them in the position to be answerable > >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a > >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is already > >>> known. > >>> > >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, > >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should > >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC. > >>> > >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. > >>> > >>> Greetings, > >>> Norbert > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 > >>> Arsène Tungali > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear colleagues, > >>>> > >>>> Starting a new thread. > >>>> > >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about > >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added > >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet > >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more > >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this > >>>> new form of oppression. > >>>> > >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their > >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in > >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon > >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which > >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other > >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other > >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, > >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in > >>>> his country. > >>>> > >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement > >>>> > > >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com > &utm_campaign=buffer> > >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. > >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support > >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). > >>>> > >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler > >>>> > >, > >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: > >>>> > >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing > >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon > >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are > >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and > >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. > >>>> > >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: > >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other > >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the > >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), > >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them > >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. > >>>> > >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of > >>>>> view from Mr. > >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely > >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is > >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In > >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a > >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* > >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC > >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance > >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and > >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us > >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? > >>>> > >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet > >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I > >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as > >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we > >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks > >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the > >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively > >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any > >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers > >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* > >>>> > >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another > >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without > >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to > >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list > >>>> within the next 48 hours. > >>>> > >>>> Very best, > >>>> > >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- ----------------------------------------- Anriette Esterhuysen Executive Director Association for Progressive Communications anriette at apc.org www.apc.org IM: ae_apc -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 10:26:30 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 17:26:30 +0200 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: <33b0a7d8-8eab-50d9-0fa8-c0e66346ec4b@apc.org> References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> <33b0a7d8-8eab-50d9-0fa8-c0e66346ec4b@apc.org> Message-ID: Hi everyone, Thanks Mawaki for your comments and explanation about the spirit behind the letter. Thanks Anriette and everyone who made a comment or approved it already. As promised, we have few hours for us to close it and send it. So, if you have an addition or a comment, please feel free to write to the list. Regards, A ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-02-01 17:15 GMT+02:00 Anriette Esterhuysen : > The letter looks very good to me. Apologies for missing the deadline. > > Anriette > > > On 01/02/2017 11:18, Mawaki Chango wrote: > > Dear Arsène et al. > > > > We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should not be > > approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, on the > > world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into > > endless debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to take > > a turn to, or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we further > > motivated the exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the specific > > communication that prompted it. > > > > You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions > > prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. > > Apparently he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep quiet, > > on the issue (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your > > response, I stand to be corrected.) > > > > In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions > > should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex > > political and security issues that the government might be dealing with > > on the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, maybe > > Janvier just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale > > condemnation of his country in the global community of civil society. > > But the email posted is there including terms and a rationale which are > > unacceptable to us, and we needed to express our concern and register > > our disapproval of such. We are not making claims as to how hard working > > and committed ISOC Cameroon may or may not be toward facilitating > > Internet access to all in Cameroon, in ordinary times. > > > > Mawaki > > > > On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" > > wrote: > > > > Dear Norbert, Mawaki, > > > > Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder if > > anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it for > > the first time on our website will be able to understand the > > background. Just thinking outloud :) > > > > I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. I > > suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. > > > > We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate > > persons, to follow the process as agreed here. > > > > Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good sign > > imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally > > sent this letter. > > > > Hope this is fine with you'all. > > > > Thanks, > > A > > ----------------- > > Arsène Tungali, > > @arsenebaguma > > +243 993810967 > > GPG: 523644A0 > > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo > > > > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > > > > > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Arsène and all > > > > > > Please find our proposal at > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upPKnJTE > yWULk-fUSajTd8/edit > > yWULk-fUSajTd8/edit> > > > > > > I'm also including the text below. > > > > > > Greetings, > > > Norbert > > > > > > > > > -- draft starts -- > > > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > > > > > Dear Colleagues > > > > > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, > > http://igcaucus.org) > > > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came > > > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information > Society > > > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet > > > governance policy making. > > > > > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable > in > > > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such > > > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. > > > > > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with > ISOC to > > > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for > > > Everyone”. > > > > > > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet > access > > > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we > refer to > > > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, > > > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ > > . > > > > > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to > respectfully > > > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong > stance > > > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, > and to > > > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. > > > > > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our > > > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, > > > President” and which expressed views that were not at all > consistent > > > with the above. > > > > > > Best regards > > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org > > > > > > > > -- draft ends -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 > > > Arsène Tungali > > wrote: > > > > > >> Dear Norbert, > > >> > > >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. > I am > > >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that > everyone > > >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC > Global. > > >> > > >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at > least > > >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do > > >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just > > >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the > margins > > >> of the doc). > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> A > > >> > > >> ------------------------ > > >> **Arsène Tungali** > > >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > > >> > >*, > > >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, > *Mabingwa > > >> Forum * > > >> Tel: +243 993810967 > > >> GPG: 523644A0 > > >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > >> > > >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > >> > > mandela-washington.html > > mandela-washington.html>> > > >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > >> > > leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf- > ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors > > leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf- > ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors>> > > >> & Mexico > > >> > > leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors > > leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>>) > > >> - AFRISIG 2016 > > - > > >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > > >> > > & Marrakech > > >> > > attendees-2016-03-14-en > > attendees-2016-03-14-en>> > > >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > >> > > fellowship-winners > > fellowship-winners>>)* > > >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > >> > > > > >> > > >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow > >: > > >> > > >>> Dear Arsène and all > > >>> > > >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that > Mawaki > > >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. > > >>> > > >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I > > >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At > > >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in > > >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is > > >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers > who > > >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct > as > > >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot > > >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any > Chapter > > >>> official's position and put them in the position to be answerable > > >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a > > >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is > already > > >>> known. > > >>> > > >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, > > >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which > should > > >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in > IGC. > > >>> > > >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. > > >>> > > >>> Greetings, > > >>> Norbert > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 > > >>> Arsène Tungali > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Dear colleagues, > > >>>> > > >>>> Starting a new thread. > > >>>> > > >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about > > >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added > > >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet > > >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more > > >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this > > >>>> new form of oppression. > > >>>> > > >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their > > >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in > > >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon > > >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, > which > > >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other > > >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other > > >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, > > >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in > > >>>> his country. > > >>>> > > >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement > > >>>> > > everyone?utm_content= > > everyone?utm_content=> > > >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com > > &utm_campaign=buffer> > > >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other > countries. > > >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support > > >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). > > >>>> > > >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler > > >>>> > > nicolas-seidler nicolas-seidler>>, > > >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: > > >>>> > > >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing > > >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon > > >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are > > >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and > > >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. > > >>>> > > >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: > > >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other > > >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the > > >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), > > >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct > them > > >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. > > >>>> > > >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of > > >>>>> view from Mr. > > >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is > completely > > >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is > > >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In > > >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a > > >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* > > >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC > > >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance > > >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and > > >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us > > >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? > > >>>> > > >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet > > >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I > > >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking > (as > > >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we > > >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks > > >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about > the > > >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively > > >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any > > >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers > > >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* > > >>>> > > >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another > > >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without > > >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to > > >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list > > >>>> within the next 48 hours. > > >>>> > > >>>> Very best, > > >>>> > > >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > > > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > > > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------- > Anriette Esterhuysen > Executive Director > Association for Progressive Communications > anriette at apc.org > www.apc.org > IM: ae_apc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 10:30:49 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 16:30:49 +0100 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> <33b0a7d8-8eab-50d9-0fa8-c0e66346ec4b@apc.org> Message-ID: I endorse it totally Agien Nyangkwe On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Arsène Tungali wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Thanks Mawaki for your comments and explanation about the spirit behind > the letter. > > Thanks Anriette and everyone who made a comment or approved it already. > > As promised, we have few hours for us to close it and send it. > So, if you have an addition or a comment, please feel free to write to the > list. > > Regards, > A > > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > 2017-02-01 17:15 GMT+02:00 Anriette Esterhuysen : > >> The letter looks very good to me. Apologies for missing the deadline. >> >> Anriette >> >> >> On 01/02/2017 11:18, Mawaki Chango wrote: >> > Dear Arsène et al. >> > >> > We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should not be >> > approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, on the >> > world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into >> > endless debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to take >> > a turn to, or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we further >> > motivated the exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the specific >> > communication that prompted it. >> > >> > You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions >> > prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. >> > Apparently he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep quiet, >> > on the issue (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your >> > response, I stand to be corrected.) >> > >> > In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions >> > should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex >> > political and security issues that the government might be dealing with >> > on the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, maybe >> > Janvier just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale >> > condemnation of his country in the global community of civil society. >> > But the email posted is there including terms and a rationale which are >> > unacceptable to us, and we needed to express our concern and register >> > our disapproval of such. We are not making claims as to how hard working >> > and committed ISOC Cameroon may or may not be toward facilitating >> > Internet access to all in Cameroon, in ordinary times. >> > >> > Mawaki >> > >> > On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" > > > wrote: >> > >> > Dear Norbert, Mawaki, >> > >> > Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder if >> > anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it for >> > the first time on our website will be able to understand the >> > background. Just thinking outloud :) >> > >> > I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. I >> > suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. >> > >> > We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate >> > persons, to follow the process as agreed here. >> > >> > Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good sign >> > imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally >> > sent this letter. >> > >> > Hope this is fine with you'all. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > A >> > ----------------- >> > Arsène Tungali, >> > @arsenebaguma >> > +243 993810967 >> > GPG: 523644A0 >> > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) >> > >> > > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow > > > wrote: >> > > >> > > Dear Arsène and all >> > > >> > > Please find our proposal at >> > > >> > > >> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0up >> PKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit >> > > pPKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit> >> > > >> > > I'm also including the text below. >> > > >> > > Greetings, >> > > Norbert >> > > >> > > >> > > -- draft starts -- >> > > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter >> > > >> > > Dear Colleagues >> > > >> > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, >> > http://igcaucus.org) >> > > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came >> > > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information >> Society >> > > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet >> > > governance policy making. >> > > >> > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not >> acceptable in >> > > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such >> > > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. >> > > >> > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with >> ISOC to >> > > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for >> > > Everyone”. >> > > >> > > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet >> access >> > > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we >> refer to >> > > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, >> > > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ >> > . >> > > >> > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to >> respectfully >> > > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong >> stance >> > > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, >> and to >> > > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. >> > > >> > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our >> > > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, >> > > President” and which expressed views that were not at all >> consistent >> > > with the above. >> > > >> > > Best regards >> > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org >> > >> > > >> > > -- draft ends -- >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 >> > > Arsène Tungali > > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> Dear Norbert, >> > >> >> > >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. >> I am >> > >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that >> everyone >> > >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC >> Global. >> > >> >> > >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at >> least >> > >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please >> do >> > >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just >> > >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the >> margins >> > >> of the doc). >> > >> >> > >> Regards, >> > >> A >> > >> >> > >> ------------------------ >> > >> **Arsène Tungali** >> > >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >> > >> > > >*, >> > >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, >> *Mabingwa >> > >> Forum * >> > >> Tel: +243 993810967 >> > >> GPG: 523644A0 >> > >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >> > >> >> > >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >> > >> >> > > ela-washington.html >> > > ela-washington.html>> >> > >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >> > >> >> > > adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors- >> programme/Past-Ambassadors >> > > adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors- >> programme/Past-Ambassadors>> >> > >> & Mexico >> > >> >> > > adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors >> > > adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>>) >> > >> - AFRISIG 2016 > > > - >> > >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los >> Angeles >> > >> > > > & >> Marrakech >> > >> >> > > s-2016-03-14-en >> > > s-2016-03-14-en>> >> > >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >> > >> >> > > lowship-winners >> > > lowship-winners>>)* >> > >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >> > >> > > > >> > >> >> > >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow > > >: >> > >> >> > >>> Dear Arsène and all >> > >>> >> > >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that >> Mawaki >> > >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. >> > >>> >> > >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I >> > >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. >> At >> > >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in >> > >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is >> > >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers >> who >> > >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct >> as >> > >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot >> > >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any >> Chapter >> > >>> official's position and put them in the position to be >> answerable >> > >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a >> > >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is >> already >> > >>> known. >> > >>> >> > >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly >> focused, >> > >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which >> should >> > >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in >> IGC. >> > >>> >> > >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. >> > >>> >> > >>> Greetings, >> > >>> Norbert >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 >> > >>> Arsène Tungali > > > wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> Dear colleagues, >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Starting a new thread. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about >> > >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added >> > >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet >> > >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more >> > >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem >> this >> > >>>> new form of oppression. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their >> > >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in >> > >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon >> > >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, >> which >> > >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other >> > >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other >> > >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an >> appeal, >> > >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on >> in >> > >>>> his country. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement >> > >>>> >> > > ?utm_content= >> > > ?utm_content=> >> > >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com >> > &utm_campaign=buffer> >> > >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other >> countries. >> > >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support >> > >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). >> > >>>> >> > >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler >> > >>>> >> > > as-seidler > s-seidler>>, >> > >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing >> > >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon >> > >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We >> are >> > >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access >> and >> > >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media >> channels. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to >> say: >> > >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other >> > >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share >> the >> > >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), >> > >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct >> them >> > >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of >> > >>>>> view from Mr. >> > >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is >> completely >> > >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is >> > >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In >> > >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a >> > >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* >> > >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC >> > >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance >> > >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and >> > >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us >> > >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? >> > >>>> >> > >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet >> > >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because >> I >> > >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking >> (as >> > >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise >> we >> > >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks >> > >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about >> the >> > >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not >> actively >> > >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any >> > >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few >> volunteers >> > >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another >> > >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without >> > >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to >> > >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list >> > >>>> within the next 48 hours. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Very best, >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator >> > > >> > > ____________________________________________________________ >> > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> > >> > > To be removed from the list, visit: >> > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> > >> > > >> > > For all other list information and functions, see: >> > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> > >> > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> > > >> > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ >> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> > >> > To be removed from the list, visit: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> > >> > >> > For all other list information and functions, see: >> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> > >> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> > >> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ >> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> > To be removed from the list, visit: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> > >> > For all other list information and functions, see: >> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> > >> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > >> >> -- >> ----------------------------------------- >> Anriette Esterhuysen >> Executive Director >> Association for Progressive Communications >> anriette at apc.org >> www.apc.org >> IM: ae_apc >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lmcknigh at syr.edu Wed Feb 1 12:00:09 2017 From: lmcknigh at syr.edu (Lee W McKnight) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 17:00:09 +0000 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill>, Message-ID: <1485968409217.90988@syr.edu> ​I support the draft IGC statement to ISOC Cameroon as written. Apologies for the late reply. Lee McKnight ________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org on behalf of Janvier NGNOULAYE Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 8:29 PM To: Internet Governance; Norbert Bollow; Arsène Tungali Cc: Dawit Bekele; dawit at isoc.org; Joyce Dogniez; Dawit Bekele via Internet Society; chapter-d >> Chapter Delegates Subject: Re: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? Dear Arsène, Norbert, Mawaki I appreciate your enthusiasm in your role. You are no more human rights activist than we are, or even more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter. We volunteer each day to work to make the Internet as open and accessible as possible to our local population. I do not need to show out here on this platform the actions and projects achieved so far. So you must understand that, we can not endorse a privation of the Internet to our population for whom we promote the open access of the Internet. I regret that you have misunderstand some words of my first mail on the matter. I would like to thank you for your concern on the case of Cameroon and also thank you for the declarative solution approach you are currently proposing. However, note that: 1) Cameroon is in a situation of war against Boko Haram, 2) Cameroon is in a situation of war against the secessionists, who have at one time erected their flag inside one part of the territory, no one knows by who they are supported and financed. 3) the current socio-political context is complex, and adding to that, there is still a lack of knowledge for using Internet tools by a big part of the population. 4) facing all of that, the government has taken security measures in its own way, some may be considered unfair, but it is wise for us to try to seat with them, discuss and work for the better solution, because we think that they need to be sensitized and educated about the better used of the Internet technologies and policies. 5) In a situation of conflict and crisis in a given country, there will be no an universal solution as you tend to suggest from your respective offices. 6) I chaired the ISOC Cameroon General Annual Assembly on Saturday 28 January 2017, this issue was addressed. Not need to expose its minutes to you here. So If you really want to help, please check back your proposal. I wanted to appeal the Internet Community, those who made a phone call to us to encourage us, and all the others of the community, to keep trusting ISOC Cameroon Chapter, who is working hard on the field to solve the issue. Best regards. Janvier Ngnoulaye, Ph.D ICT Teacher at the University President of the ISOC Cameroon Chapter. Activist of "The Internet is for everyone" http://www.internetsociety.cm/ 2017-01-31 20:32 GMT+01:00 Norbert Bollow >: Dear Arsène and all Please find our proposal at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upPKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit I'm also including the text below. Greetings, Norbert -- draft starts -- To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter Dear Colleagues The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, http://igcaucus.org) is a global network of civil society actors who originally came together in the context of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet governance policy making. We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for Everyone”. For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet access and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ . In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent with the above. Best regards Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org -- draft ends -- On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 Arsène Tungali > wrote: > Dear Norbert, > > Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I am > happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that everyone > is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC Global. > > Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at least > 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do > share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just > allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the margins > of the doc). > > Regards, > A > > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa > Forum * > Tel: +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - AFRISIG 2016 - > Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > )* > - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow >: > > > Dear Arsène and all > > > > After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki > > and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. > > > > In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I > > think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At > > the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in > > the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is > > already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers who > > are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct as > > would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot > > reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any Chapter > > official's position and put them in the position to be answerable > > about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a > > letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is already > > known. > > > > We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, > > and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should > > be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC. > > > > You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. > > > > Greetings, > > Norbert > > > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 > > Arsène Tungali > wrote: > > > > > Dear colleagues, > > > > > > Starting a new thread. > > > > > > I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about > > > what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added > > > to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet > > > shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more > > > than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this > > > new form of oppression. > > > > > > I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their > > > concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in > > > his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon > > > President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which > > > I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other > > > colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other > > > colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, > > > asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in > > > his country. > > > > > > For your information, ISOC has issued a statement > > > > bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer> > > > condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. > > > This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support > > > shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). > > > > > > And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler > > > , > > > who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: > > > > > > We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing > > > concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon > > > situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are > > > also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and > > > members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. > > > > > > And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: > > > Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other > > > parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the > > > same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), > > > there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them > > > to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. > > > > > > >From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of > > > >view from Mr. > > > Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely > > > wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is > > > restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In > > > Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. > > > > > > > > > > > > *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a > > > statement, I would like to suggest the following:* > > > 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC > > > Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance > > > taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and > > > Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us > > > within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? > > > > > > 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet > > > shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I > > > am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as > > > said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we > > > have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks > > > as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the > > > issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively > > > involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any > > > shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers > > > to make an initial draft statement as well?* > > > > > > Please do let me know what you think or if there is another > > > approach that we can all agree on and take action without > > > wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to > > > draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list > > > within the next 48 hours. > > > > > > Very best, > > > > > > Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 12:07:26 2017 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 06:07:26 +1300 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is fantastic Arsene. You could call for collaborators and use the etherpad on the IGC website. Sala On 30/01/2017 22:03, "Arsène Tungali" wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > Starting a new thread. > > I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about what's going > on in Cameroon which is just another country added to the list of African > countries that have experienced Internet shutdown. I am from the DRC and we > have experienced this more than 3 times and I am in the best position to > highly condem this new form of oppression. > > I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their concern over > what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in his country, where he > volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon President. I join you all and condemn > his position on this, which I can assure you, is his own position, not > shared by his other colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to > his other colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, > asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in his > country. > > For your information, ISOC has issued a statement > > condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. This > show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support shutdowns but rather > condem it firmly (as we all know). > > And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler > , > who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: > > We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing concerns on such > measures, in the context of the Cameroon situation and in view of others to > come up in the future. We are also supporting and giving visibility to > efforts from Access and members of the Keep it on campaign on our social > media channels. > > And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: > Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other parts of > the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the same view (a > Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), there are some who want to > act and we’ll make sure to direct them to Deji, Julie and others involved > in the advocacy effort. > > From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of view from > Mr. Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely > wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is restricted > access, this should be raised and condemned. In Cameroon, we have 2 regions > affected and this is terrible. > > > > *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a statement, I > would like to suggest the following:* > 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC Executive > Director for example) condemning the public stance taken by ISOC Cameroon > President. May I suggest *Norbert and Mawaki* to make an initial draft > statement and share with us within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? > > 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet shutdown > across the world as a civil society coalition because I am sure this is the > new form of opression that Gov are taking (as said by Snowden). It will be > very useful we use the expertise we have here to draft this and circulate > it widely in all networks as a way to condemn the act but also to raise > awareness about the issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not > actively involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any > shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers to make > an initial draft statement as well?* > > Please do let me know what you think or if there is another approach that > we can all agree on and take action without wassting more time. If you want > to be part of the team of 3 to draft the second statement, please do let us > know on this list within the next 48 hours. > > Very best, > > Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From analia.aspis at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 12:24:58 2017 From: analia.aspis at gmail.com (Analia Aspis) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 14:24:58 -0300 Subject: [governance] Expiration of my role as co-coordinator - Report and next steps Message-ID: Dear list, As you may know, on January 2017 expired my role as IGC co-coordinator. This means that from now, I do not have any responsiblity or tasks to follow under such role. The current Coordinator, Arsene Tungali will very soon send a call to the list to request self-nominations for those you may wish to have the experience of this lovely and challenging task. After the closure for such call and after receiving the self-nominations along with their expression of interest to become co-coordinator of the IGC for the 2017-2019 period, a votation link will be provided to vote. Besides the election process that will be run by Arsene, you will be shortly as well be informed by him, on the technical changes that will be implemented, since we have been informed that by 1st March 2017, the enterprise that worked with IGC for the past 7 years, has decided to end their business, which means that all the information related to IGC should be backed up and migrate to a new plattform, which I think and knowing how Arsene works, it would be definetively fresh and very professional. Despite this quick report on how it will be handled this technical and administrative issues, I would love to thank all of you for your patiente, good vibes and help over this past 2 years. I have learn a lot and better understood how challenging it can be an international network where I tried my best, to enhance the values of respect, inclusion and diversity. Of course this could not have been done without the help of my two co-coordinators, Deidre and Arsene, from which I have not only learned at lot but achived a great team work. Now with Arsene and the new person who will take the lead, a new phase starts, with a lot of opportinitues and visions. Again, thanks a lot for your participation and work, see you anytime, anywhere, Regards, Analía Aspis IGC- former co-coordinator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The current Coordinator, Arsene Tungali will very > soon send a call to the list to request self-nominations for those you may > wish to have the experience of this lovely and challenging task. After the > closure for such call and after receiving the self-nominations along with > their expression of interest to become co-coordinator of the IGC for the > 2017-2019 period, a votation link will be provided to vote. > Besides the election process that will be run by Arsene, you will be > shortly as well be informed by him, on the technical changes that will be > implemented, since we have been informed that by 1st March 2017, the > enterprise that worked with IGC for the past 7 years, has decided to end > their business, which means that all the information related to IGC should > be backed up and migrate to a new plattform, which I think and knowing how > Arsene works, it would be definetively fresh and very professional. > > Despite this quick report on how it will be handled this technical and > administrative issues, I would love to thank all of you for your patiente, > good vibes and help over this past 2 years. I have learn a lot and better > understood how challenging it can be an international network where I tried > my best, to enhance the values of respect, inclusion and diversity. Of > course this could not have been done without the help of my two > co-coordinators, Deidre and Arsene, from which I have not only learned at > lot but achived a great team work. Now with Arsene and the new person who > will take the lead, a new phase starts, with a lot of opportinitues and > visions. > > Again, thanks a lot for your participation and work, see you anytime, > anywhere, > Regards, > Analía Aspis > IGC- former co-coordinator > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The main highlights include: - The top trends in January, including the impact of US President Trump's first 100 days on global digital policy; preparations for the 2017 Internet Governance Forum, which will this year be held in Geneva on 18-21 December; updates on the cyber-saga between the USA and Russia; and an analysis of the context for digital predictions for 2017; - A look back at the main developments in 2016, and a look ahead at 2017. Ten main developments top the list of predictions for the coming months; - A round-up of the main digital policy updates of the month, the events that took place in International Geneva, and a crossword on privacy and data protection on the occasion of Data Protection Day, celebrated on 28 January. The Brazilian version, in collaboration with the Centre for Technology and Society of the Getulio Vargas Foundation, will be available soon. Download your copy of the January newsletter. 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Cheers On Wednesday, February 1, 2017, Remmy Nweke wrote: > Thanks Amalia for all the good works > Remmy > > On Feb 1, 2017 6:25 PM, "Analia Aspis" > wrote: > >> Dear list, >> >> As you may know, on January 2017 expired my role as IGC co-coordinator. >> This means that from now, I do not have any responsiblity or tasks to >> follow under such role. The current Coordinator, Arsene Tungali will very >> soon send a call to the list to request self-nominations for those you may >> wish to have the experience of this lovely and challenging task. After the >> closure for such call and after receiving the self-nominations along with >> their expression of interest to become co-coordinator of the IGC for the >> 2017-2019 period, a votation link will be provided to vote. >> Besides the election process that will be run by Arsene, you will be >> shortly as well be informed by him, on the technical changes that will be >> implemented, since we have been informed that by 1st March 2017, the >> enterprise that worked with IGC for the past 7 years, has decided to end >> their business, which means that all the information related to IGC should >> be backed up and migrate to a new plattform, which I think and knowing how >> Arsene works, it would be definetively fresh and very professional. >> >> Despite this quick report on how it will be handled this technical and >> administrative issues, I would love to thank all of you for your patiente, >> good vibes and help over this past 2 years. I have learn a lot and better >> understood how challenging it can be an international network where I tried >> my best, to enhance the values of respect, inclusion and diversity. Of >> course this could not have been done without the help of my two >> co-coordinators, Deidre and Arsene, from which I have not only learned at >> lot but achived a great team work. Now with Arsene and the new person who >> will take the lead, a new phase starts, with a lot of opportinitues and >> visions. >> >> Again, thanks a lot for your participation and work, see you anytime, >> anywhere, >> Regards, >> Analía Aspis >> IGC- former co-coordinator >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> -- *WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)* E-government and Open Government Data Platforms Specialist National Information Technology Agency (NITA)/ Ghana Open Data Initiative Project. ICANN Fellow / Member, UN IGF MAG Member, ISOC Member, Freedom Online Coalition (FOC) Member, Diplo Foundation Member, OGP Open Data WG Member, GODAN Memember, ITAG Member Email: wisdom_dk at hotmail.com wisdom.donkor at data.gov.gh wisdom.dk at gmail.com Skype: wisdom_dk facebook: facebook at wisdom_dk Website: www.nita.gov.gh / www.data.gov.gh www.isoc.gh / www.itag.org.gh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From cveraq at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 16:32:14 2017 From: cveraq at gmail.com (Carlos Vera) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 16:32:14 -0500 Subject: [governance] Expiration of my role as co-coordinator - Report and next steps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57288BD8-7A39-4F64-8B19-EBE06322DC8A@gmail.com> Thank you Analia. Is there reelection option? Carlos Vera > On Feb 1, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Remmy Nweke wrote: > > Thanks Amalia for all the good works > Remmy > >> On Feb 1, 2017 6:25 PM, "Analia Aspis" wrote: >> Dear list, >> >> As you may know, on January 2017 expired my role as IGC co-coordinator. This means that from now, I do not have any responsiblity or tasks to follow under such role. The current Coordinator, Arsene Tungali will very soon send a call to the list to request self-nominations for those you may wish to have the experience of this lovely and challenging task. After the closure for such call and after receiving the self-nominations along with their expression of interest to become co-coordinator of the IGC for the 2017-2019 period, a votation link will be provided to vote. >> Besides the election process that will be run by Arsene, you will be shortly as well be informed by him, on the technical changes that will be implemented, since we have been informed that by 1st March 2017, the enterprise that worked with IGC for the past 7 years, has decided to end their business, which means that all the information related to IGC should be backed up and migrate to a new plattform, which I think and knowing how Arsene works, it would be definetively fresh and very professional. >> >> Despite this quick report on how it will be handled this technical and administrative issues, I would love to thank all of you for your patiente, good vibes and help over this past 2 years. I have learn a lot and better understood how challenging it can be an international network where I tried my best, to enhance the values of respect, inclusion and diversity. Of course this could not have been done without the help of my two co-coordinators, Deidre and Arsene, from which I have not only learned at lot but achived a great team work. Now with Arsene and the new person who will take the lead, a new phase starts, with a lot of opportinitues and visions. >> >> Again, thanks a lot for your participation and work, see you anytime, anywhere, >> Regards, >> Analía Aspis >> IGC- former co-coordinator >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From bzs at theworld.com Wed Feb 1 16:48:42 2017 From: bzs at theworld.com (bzs at theworld.com) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 16:48:42 -0500 Subject: [governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump In-Reply-To: References: <015c01d27aa1$979678f0$c6c36ad0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <22674.22458.77935.309540@gargle.gargle.HOWL> It's a nonsensical argument. Even if Obama did issue something with some parallels the context, intent, and effect are everything. Trump has acted in a penumbra of seemingly nonsensical xenophobic policy goals. For example, his White House Press Secretary, Sean Spicer, defended this EO yesterday in a daily press briefing by citing the recent attack on a mosque in Montreal which was an attack on Muslims by a white supremacist. And in Canada for that matter though I suppose in his mind some sort of bizarre extrapolation is justified, what that is only a mental health professional could speculate. It is often difficult for me to sift through the word salad thought processes this administration exhibits. And Spicer thought it was reasonable that a 5 year old boy was handcuffed and detained for hours at Dulles airport and he was in fact a security risk so justified. The boy is a US citizen, his mother who lives in Maryland is Iranian. As someone asked what sort of handcuffs does one even use on a 5 year old boy? Perhaps that's all we're left with to ponder. On another current topic here I worry that our Cameroon ISOC spokesperson, given events, may not be speaking freely or safely so would read his statements with that in mind. We just don't know. Of course that might be true of Sean Spicer also, to tie the thoughts together. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs at TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo* -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From analia.aspis at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 18:03:32 2017 From: analia.aspis at gmail.com (Analia Aspis) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 20:03:32 -0300 Subject: [governance] Expiration of my role as co-coordinator - Report and next steps In-Reply-To: <57288BD8-7A39-4F64-8B19-EBE06322DC8A@gmail.com> References: <57288BD8-7A39-4F64-8B19-EBE06322DC8A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Carlos and all, Thanks a lot for your message. It is not prohibited by the chapter indeed. Regards, Analía On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Carlos Vera wrote: > Thank you Analia. > > Is there reelection option? > > Carlos Vera > > On Feb 1, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Remmy Nweke wrote: > > Thanks Amalia for all the good works > Remmy > > On Feb 1, 2017 6:25 PM, "Analia Aspis" wrote: > >> Dear list, >> >> As you may know, on January 2017 expired my role as IGC co-coordinator. >> This means that from now, I do not have any responsiblity or tasks to >> follow under such role. The current Coordinator, Arsene Tungali will very >> soon send a call to the list to request self-nominations for those you may >> wish to have the experience of this lovely and challenging task. After the >> closure for such call and after receiving the self-nominations along with >> their expression of interest to become co-coordinator of the IGC for the >> 2017-2019 period, a votation link will be provided to vote. >> Besides the election process that will be run by Arsene, you will be >> shortly as well be informed by him, on the technical changes that will be >> implemented, since we have been informed that by 1st March 2017, the >> enterprise that worked with IGC for the past 7 years, has decided to end >> their business, which means that all the information related to IGC should >> be backed up and migrate to a new plattform, which I think and knowing how >> Arsene works, it would be definetively fresh and very professional. >> >> Despite this quick report on how it will be handled this technical and >> administrative issues, I would love to thank all of you for your patiente, >> good vibes and help over this past 2 years. I have learn a lot and better >> understood how challenging it can be an international network where I tried >> my best, to enhance the values of respect, inclusion and diversity. Of >> course this could not have been done without the help of my two >> co-coordinators, Deidre and Arsene, from which I have not only learned at >> lot but achived a great team work. Now with Arsene and the new person who >> will take the lead, a new phase starts, with a lot of opportinitues and >> visions. >> >> Again, thanks a lot for your participation and work, see you anytime, >> anywhere, >> Regards, >> Analía Aspis >> IGC- former co-coordinator >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From raquino at gmail.com Wed Feb 1 20:43:50 2017 From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 22:43:50 -0300 Subject: [governance] Expiration of my role as co-coordinator - Report and next steps In-Reply-To: References: <57288BD8-7A39-4F64-8B19-EBE06322DC8A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Analia Thank you for your dedication and looking forward to hear, as always, from your great projects and hope you continue on the commmunity. Best, Renata On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Analia Aspis wrote: > Dear Carlos and all, > > Thanks a lot for your message. It is not prohibited by the chapter indeed. > > Regards, > Analía > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Carlos Vera wrote: >> >> Thank you Analia. >> >> Is there reelection option? >> >> Carlos Vera >> >> On Feb 1, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Remmy Nweke wrote: >> >> Thanks Amalia for all the good works >> Remmy >> >> On Feb 1, 2017 6:25 PM, "Analia Aspis" wrote: >>> >>> Dear list, >>> >>> As you may know, on January 2017 expired my role as IGC co-coordinator. >>> This means that from now, I do not have any responsiblity or tasks to follow >>> under such role. The current Coordinator, Arsene Tungali will very soon send >>> a call to the list to request self-nominations for those you may wish to >>> have the experience of this lovely and challenging task. After the closure >>> for such call and after receiving the self-nominations along with their >>> expression of interest to become co-coordinator of the IGC for the 2017-2019 >>> period, a votation link will be provided to vote. >>> Besides the election process that will be run by Arsene, you will be >>> shortly as well be informed by him, on the technical changes that will be >>> implemented, since we have been informed that by 1st March 2017, the >>> enterprise that worked with IGC for the past 7 years, has decided to end >>> their business, which means that all the information related to IGC should >>> be backed up and migrate to a new plattform, which I think and knowing how >>> Arsene works, it would be definetively fresh and very professional. >>> >>> Despite this quick report on how it will be handled this technical and >>> administrative issues, I would love to thank all of you for your patiente, >>> good vibes and help over this past 2 years. I have learn a lot and better >>> understood how challenging it can be an international network where I tried >>> my best, to enhance the values of respect, inclusion and diversity. Of >>> course this could not have been done without the help of my two >>> co-coordinators, Deidre and Arsene, from which I have not only learned at >>> lot but achived a great team work. Now with Arsene and the new person who >>> will take the lead, a new phase starts, with a lot of opportinitues and >>> visions. >>> >>> Again, thanks a lot for your participation and work, see you anytime, >>> anywhere, >>> Regards, >>> Analía Aspis >>> IGC- former co-coordinator >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From compsoftnet at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 01:54:42 2017 From: compsoftnet at gmail.com (Akinremi Peter Taiwo) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 22:54:42 -0800 Subject: [governance] Expiration of my role as co-coordinator - Report and next steps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 Analia. You did wonderfully well. Peter. On Feb 1, 2017 6:25 PM, "Analia Aspis" wrote: > Dear list, > > As you may know, on January 2017 expired my role as IGC co-coordinator. > This means that from now, I do not have any responsiblity or tasks to > follow under such role. The current Coordinator, Arsene Tungali will very > soon send a call to the list to request self-nominations for those you may > wish to have the experience of this lovely and challenging task. After the > closure for such call and after receiving the self-nominations along with > their expression of interest to become co-coordinator of the IGC for the > 2017-2019 period, a votation link will be provided to vote. > Besides the election process that will be run by Arsene, you will be > shortly as well be informed by him, on the technical changes that will be > implemented, since we have been informed that by 1st March 2017, the > enterprise that worked with IGC for the past 7 years, has decided to end > their business, which means that all the information related to IGC should > be backed up and migrate to a new plattform, which I think and knowing how > Arsene works, it would be definetively fresh and very professional. > > Despite this quick report on how it will be handled this technical and > administrative issues, I would love to thank all of you for your patiente, > good vibes and help over this past 2 years. I have learn a lot and better > understood how challenging it can be an international network where I tried > my best, to enhance the values of respect, inclusion and diversity. Of > course this could not have been done without the help of my two > co-coordinators, Deidre and Arsene, from which I have not only learned at > lot but achived a great team work. Now with Arsene and the new person who > will take the lead, a new phase starts, with a lot of opportinitues and > visions. > > Again, thanks a lot for your participation and work, see you anytime, > anywhere, > Regards, > Analía Aspis > IGC- former co-coordinator > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From compsoftnet at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 02:40:39 2017 From: compsoftnet at gmail.com (Akinremi Peter Taiwo) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 23:40:39 -0800 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> <33b0a7d8-8eab-50d9-0fa8-c0e66346ec4b@apc.org> Message-ID: Hope it's not too late. I also support and therefore endorsed the letter. Thanks Peter. On Feb 1, 2017 4:31 PM, "Nyangkwe Agien Aaron" wrote: > I endorse it totally > > Agien Nyangkwe > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Arsène Tungali > wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> Thanks Mawaki for your comments and explanation about the spirit behind >> the letter. >> >> Thanks Anriette and everyone who made a comment or approved it already. >> >> As promised, we have few hours for us to close it and send it. >> So, if you have an addition or a comment, please feel free to write to >> the list. >> >> Regards, >> A >> >> ------------------------ >> **Arsène Tungali** >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >> *, >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum >> * >> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >> GPG: 523644A0 >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >> >> & Mexico >> ) >> - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger >> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >> & Marrakech >> >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >> >> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >> >> >> 2017-02-01 17:15 GMT+02:00 Anriette Esterhuysen : >> >>> The letter looks very good to me. Apologies for missing the deadline. >>> >>> Anriette >>> >>> >>> On 01/02/2017 11:18, Mawaki Chango wrote: >>> > Dear Arsène et al. >>> > >>> > We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should not >>> be >>> > approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, on >>> the >>> > world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into >>> > endless debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to >>> take >>> > a turn to, or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we further >>> > motivated the exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the specific >>> > communication that prompted it. >>> > >>> > You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions >>> > prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. >>> > Apparently he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep >>> quiet, >>> > on the issue (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your >>> > response, I stand to be corrected.) >>> > >>> > In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions >>> > should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex >>> > political and security issues that the government might be dealing with >>> > on the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, maybe >>> > Janvier just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale >>> > condemnation of his country in the global community of civil society. >>> > But the email posted is there including terms and a rationale which are >>> > unacceptable to us, and we needed to express our concern and register >>> > our disapproval of such. We are not making claims as to how hard >>> working >>> > and committed ISOC Cameroon may or may not be toward facilitating >>> > Internet access to all in Cameroon, in ordinary times. >>> > >>> > Mawaki >>> > >>> > On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" >> > > wrote: >>> > >>> > Dear Norbert, Mawaki, >>> > >>> > Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder if >>> > anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it for >>> > the first time on our website will be able to understand the >>> > background. Just thinking outloud :) >>> > >>> > I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. I >>> > suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. >>> > >>> > We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate >>> > persons, to follow the process as agreed here. >>> > >>> > Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good sign >>> > imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally >>> > sent this letter. >>> > >>> > Hope this is fine with you'all. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > A >>> > ----------------- >>> > Arsène Tungali, >>> > @arsenebaguma >>> > +243 993810967 >>> > GPG: 523644A0 >>> > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) >>> > >>> > > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow >> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Dear Arsène and all >>> > > >>> > > Please find our proposal at >>> > > >>> > > >>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0up >>> PKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit >>> > >> pPKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit> >>> > > >>> > > I'm also including the text below. >>> > > >>> > > Greetings, >>> > > Norbert >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -- draft starts -- >>> > > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter >>> > > >>> > > Dear Colleagues >>> > > >>> > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, >>> > http://igcaucus.org) >>> > > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came >>> > > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information >>> Society >>> > > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet >>> > > governance policy making. >>> > > >>> > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not >>> acceptable in >>> > > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that >>> such >>> > > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. >>> > > >>> > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with >>> ISOC to >>> > > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is >>> for >>> > > Everyone”. >>> > > >>> > > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet >>> access >>> > > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we >>> refer to >>> > > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, >>> > > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ >>> > . >>> > > >>> > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to >>> respectfully >>> > > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong >>> stance >>> > > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, >>> and to >>> > > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. >>> > > >>> > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our >>> > > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC >>> Cameroon, >>> > > President” and which expressed views that were not at all >>> consistent >>> > > with the above. >>> > > >>> > > Best regards >>> > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org >>> > >>> > > >>> > > -- draft ends -- >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 >>> > > Arsène Tungali >> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > >> Dear Norbert, >>> > >> >>> > >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this >>> task. I am >>> > >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that >>> everyone >>> > >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC >>> Global. >>> > >> >>> > >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at >>> least >>> > >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please >>> do >>> > >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just >>> > >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the >>> margins >>> > >> of the doc). >>> > >> >>> > >> Regards, >>> > >> A >>> > >> >>> > >> ------------------------ >>> > >> **Arsène Tungali** >>> > >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>> > >> >> > >*, >>> > >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, >>> *Mabingwa >>> > >> Forum * >>> > >> Tel: +243 993810967 >>> > >> GPG: 523644A0 >>> > >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>> > >> >>> > >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>> > >> >>> > >> ela-washington.html >>> > >> ela-washington.html>> >>> > >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>> > >> >>> > >> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors- >>> programme/Past-Ambassadors >>> > >> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors- >>> programme/Past-Ambassadors>> >>> > >> & Mexico >>> > >> >>> > >> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors >>> > >> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>>) >>> > >> - AFRISIG 2016 >> > > - >>> > >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los >>> Angeles >>> > >> >> > > & >>> Marrakech >>> > >> >>> > >> s-2016-03-14-en >>> > >> s-2016-03-14-en>> >>> > >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>> > >> >>> > >> lowship-winners >>> > >> lowship-winners>>)* >>> > >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >>> > >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow >> > >: >>> > >> >>> > >>> Dear Arsène and all >>> > >>> >>> > >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that >>> Mawaki >>> > >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and >>> I >>> > >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. >>> At >>> > >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear >>> in >>> > >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is >>> > >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are >>> volunteers who >>> > >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of >>> conduct as >>> > >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we >>> cannot >>> > >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any >>> Chapter >>> > >>> official's position and put them in the position to be >>> answerable >>> > >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a >>> > >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is >>> already >>> > >>> known. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly >>> focused, >>> > >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which >>> should >>> > >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate >>> in IGC. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Greetings, >>> > >>> Norbert >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 >>> > >>> Arsène Tungali >> > > wrote: >>> > >>> >>> > >>>> Dear colleagues, >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> Starting a new thread. >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about >>> > >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country >>> added >>> > >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced >>> Internet >>> > >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more >>> > >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem >>> this >>> > >>>> new form of oppression. >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their >>> > >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in >>> > >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon >>> > >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, >>> which >>> > >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other >>> > >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his >>> other >>> > >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an >>> appeal, >>> > >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on >>> in >>> > >>>> his country. >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement >>> > >>>> >>> > >> ?utm_content= >>> > >> ?utm_content=> >>> > >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com >>> > &utm_campaign=buffer> >>> > >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other >>> countries. >>> > >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support >>> > >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler >>> > >>>> >>> > >> as-seidler >> s-seidler>>, >>> > >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing >>> > >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon >>> > >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We >>> are >>> > >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access >>> and >>> > >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media >>> channels. >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to >>> say: >>> > >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other >>> > >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share >>> the >>> > >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), >>> > >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct >>> them >>> > >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of >>> > >>>>> view from Mr. >>> > >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is >>> completely >>> > >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is >>> > >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In >>> > >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a >>> > >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* >>> > >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC >>> > >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance >>> > >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and >>> > >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us >>> > >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet >>> > >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition >>> because I >>> > >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking >>> (as >>> > >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise >>> we >>> > >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all >>> networks >>> > >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about >>> the >>> > >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not >>> actively >>> > >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced >>> any >>> > >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few >>> volunteers >>> > >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another >>> > >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without >>> > >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to >>> > >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list >>> > >>>> within the next 48 hours. >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> Very best, >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator >>> > > >>> > > ____________________________________________________________ >>> > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> > >>> > > To be removed from the list, visit: >>> > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> > >>> > > >>> > > For all other list information and functions, see: >>> > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> > >>> > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> > > >>> > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ____________________________________________________________ >>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> > >>> > To be removed from the list, visit: >>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> > >>> > >>> > For all other list information and functions, see: >>> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> > >>> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> > >>> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ____________________________________________________________ >>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> > To be removed from the list, visit: >>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> > >>> > For all other list information and functions, see: >>> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> > >>> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> ----------------------------------------- >>> Anriette Esterhuysen >>> Executive Director >>> Association for Progressive Communications >>> anriette at apc.org >>> www.apc.org >>> IM: ae_apc >>> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Aaron Agien NYANGKWE > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lorena at collaboratory.de Thu Feb 2 02:58:48 2017 From: lorena at collaboratory.de (Lorena Jaume-Palasi) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 08:58:48 +0100 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> <33b0a7d8-8eab-50d9-0fa8-c0e66346ec4b@apc.org> Message-ID: +1 2017-02-02 8:40 GMT+01:00 Akinremi Peter Taiwo : > Hope it's not too late. I also support and therefore endorsed the letter. > > Thanks > Peter. > On Feb 1, 2017 4:31 PM, "Nyangkwe Agien Aaron" > wrote: > >> I endorse it totally >> >> Agien Nyangkwe >> >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Arsène Tungali >> wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Thanks Mawaki for your comments and explanation about the spirit behind >>> the letter. >>> >>> Thanks Anriette and everyone who made a comment or approved it already. >>> >>> As promised, we have few hours for us to close it and send it. >>> So, if you have an addition or a comment, please feel free to write to >>> the list. >>> >>> Regards, >>> A >>> >>> ------------------------ >>> **Arsène Tungali** >>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>> *, >>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>> Forum * >>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>> GPG: 523644A0 >>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>> >>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>> >>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>> >>> & Mexico >>> ) >>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>> & Marrakech >>> >>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>> >>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>> >>> >>> 2017-02-01 17:15 GMT+02:00 Anriette Esterhuysen : >>> >>>> The letter looks very good to me. Apologies for missing the deadline. >>>> >>>> Anriette >>>> >>>> >>>> On 01/02/2017 11:18, Mawaki Chango wrote: >>>> > Dear Arsène et al. >>>> > >>>> > We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should not >>>> be >>>> > approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, on >>>> the >>>> > world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into >>>> > endless debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to >>>> take >>>> > a turn to, or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we further >>>> > motivated the exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the specific >>>> > communication that prompted it. >>>> > >>>> > You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions >>>> > prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. >>>> > Apparently he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep >>>> quiet, >>>> > on the issue (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your >>>> > response, I stand to be corrected.) >>>> > >>>> > In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions >>>> > should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex >>>> > political and security issues that the government might be dealing >>>> with >>>> > on the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, maybe >>>> > Janvier just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale >>>> > condemnation of his country in the global community of civil society. >>>> > But the email posted is there including terms and a rationale which >>>> are >>>> > unacceptable to us, and we needed to express our concern and register >>>> > our disapproval of such. We are not making claims as to how hard >>>> working >>>> > and committed ISOC Cameroon may or may not be toward facilitating >>>> > Internet access to all in Cameroon, in ordinary times. >>>> > >>>> > Mawaki >>>> > >>>> > On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" >>> > > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Dear Norbert, Mawaki, >>>> > >>>> > Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder >>>> if >>>> > anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it >>>> for >>>> > the first time on our website will be able to understand the >>>> > background. Just thinking outloud :) >>>> > >>>> > I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. >>>> I >>>> > suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. >>>> > >>>> > We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate >>>> > persons, to follow the process as agreed here. >>>> > >>>> > Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good >>>> sign >>>> > imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally >>>> > sent this letter. >>>> > >>>> > Hope this is fine with you'all. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks, >>>> > A >>>> > ----------------- >>>> > Arsène Tungali, >>>> > @arsenebaguma >>>> > +243 993810967 >>>> > GPG: 523644A0 >>>> > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >>>> > >>>> > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) >>>> > >>>> > > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow >>> > > wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > Dear Arsène and all >>>> > > >>>> > > Please find our proposal at >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0up >>>> PKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit >>>> > >>> pPKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit> >>>> > > >>>> > > I'm also including the text below. >>>> > > >>>> > > Greetings, >>>> > > Norbert >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > -- draft starts -- >>>> > > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter >>>> > > >>>> > > Dear Colleagues >>>> > > >>>> > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, >>>> > http://igcaucus.org) >>>> > > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came >>>> > > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information >>>> Society >>>> > > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet >>>> > > governance policy making. >>>> > > >>>> > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not >>>> acceptable in >>>> > > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that >>>> such >>>> > > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. >>>> > > >>>> > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with >>>> ISOC to >>>> > > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is >>>> for >>>> > > Everyone”. >>>> > > >>>> > > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet >>>> access >>>> > > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we >>>> refer to >>>> > > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, >>>> > > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ >>>> > . >>>> > > >>>> > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to >>>> respectfully >>>> > > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong >>>> stance >>>> > > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, >>>> and to >>>> > > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. >>>> > > >>>> > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to >>>> our >>>> > > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC >>>> Cameroon, >>>> > > President” and which expressed views that were not at all >>>> consistent >>>> > > with the above. >>>> > > >>>> > > Best regards >>>> > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > > -- draft ends -- >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 >>>> > > Arsène Tungali >>> > > wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > >> Dear Norbert, >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this >>>> task. I am >>>> > >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that >>>> everyone >>>> > >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC >>>> Global. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow >>>> at least >>>> > >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. >>>> Please do >>>> > >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but >>>> just >>>> > >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the >>>> margins >>>> > >> of the doc). >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Regards, >>>> > >> A >>>> > >> >>>> > >> ------------------------ >>>> > >> **Arsène Tungali** >>>> > >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>> > >> >>> > >*, >>>> > >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, >>>> *Mabingwa >>>> > >> Forum * >>>> > >> Tel: +243 993810967 >>>> > >> GPG: 523644A0 >>>> > >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>> > >> >>>> > >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>> > >> >>>> > >>> ela-washington.html >>>> > >>> ela-washington.html>> >>>> > >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>> > >> >>>> > >>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors- >>>> programme/Past-Ambassadors >>>> > >>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors- >>>> programme/Past-Ambassadors>> >>>> > >> & Mexico >>>> > >> >>>> > >>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors >>>> > >>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>>) >>>> > >> - AFRISIG 2016 >>> > > - >>>> > >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los >>>> Angeles >>>> > >> >>> > > & >>>> Marrakech >>>> > >> >>>> > >>> s-2016-03-14-en >>>> > >>> s-2016-03-14-en>> >>>> > >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>> > >> >>>> > >>> lowship-winners >>>> > >>> lowship-winners>>)* >>>> > >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost >>>> UK >>>> > >> >>> > > >>>> > >> >>>> > >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow >>> > >: >>>> > >> >>>> > >>> Dear Arsène and all >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that >>>> Mawaki >>>> > >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki >>>> and I >>>> > >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC >>>> Cameroon. At >>>> > >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear >>>> in >>>> > >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is >>>> > >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are >>>> volunteers who >>>> > >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of >>>> conduct as >>>> > >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we >>>> cannot >>>> > >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any >>>> Chapter >>>> > >>> official's position and put them in the position to be >>>> answerable >>>> > >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address >>>> a >>>> > >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is >>>> already >>>> > >>> known. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly >>>> focused, >>>> > >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which >>>> should >>>> > >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate >>>> in IGC. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Greetings, >>>> > >>> Norbert >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 >>>> > >>> Arsène Tungali >>> > > wrote: >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>>> Dear colleagues, >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> Starting a new thread. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about >>>> > >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country >>>> added >>>> > >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced >>>> Internet >>>> > >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more >>>> > >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem >>>> this >>>> > >>>> new form of oppression. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their >>>> > >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown >>>> in >>>> > >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon >>>> > >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, >>>> which >>>> > >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his >>>> other >>>> > >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his >>>> other >>>> > >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an >>>> appeal, >>>> > >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going >>>> on in >>>> > >>>> his country. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> ?utm_content= >>>> > >>> ?utm_content=> >>>> > >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com >>>> > &utm_campaign=buffer> >>>> > >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other >>>> countries. >>>> > >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support >>>> > >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>> as-seidler >>> s-seidler>>, >>>> > >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing >>>> > >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon >>>> > >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We >>>> are >>>> > >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access >>>> and >>>> > >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media >>>> channels. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to >>>> say: >>>> > >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many >>>> other >>>> > >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share >>>> the >>>> > >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), >>>> > >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct >>>> them >>>> > >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point >>>> of >>>> > >>>>> view from Mr. >>>> > >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is >>>> completely >>>> > >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is >>>> > >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In >>>> > >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a >>>> > >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* >>>> > >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC >>>> > >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance >>>> > >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and >>>> > >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us >>>> > >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet >>>> > >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition >>>> because I >>>> > >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are >>>> taking (as >>>> > >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the >>>> expertise we >>>> > >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all >>>> networks >>>> > >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness >>>> about the >>>> > >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not >>>> actively >>>> > >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced >>>> any >>>> > >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few >>>> volunteers >>>> > >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another >>>> > >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without >>>> > >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 >>>> to >>>> > >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this >>>> list >>>> > >>>> within the next 48 hours. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> Very best, >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator >>>> > > >>>> > > ____________________________________________________________ >>>> > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> > >>>> > > To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > > For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> > >>>> > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> > > >>>> > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ____________________________________________________________ >>>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> > >>>> > To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> > >>>> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> > >>>> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ____________________________________________________________ >>>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> > To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> > >>>> > For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> > >>>> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ----------------------------------------- >>>> Anriette Esterhuysen >>>> Executive Director >>>> Association for Progressive Communications >>>> anriette at apc.org >>>> www.apc.org >>>> IM: ae_apc >>>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >> P.O.Box 5213 >> Douala-Cameroon >> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance Arbeitsgruppe Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ Youtube -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 03:11:13 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 10:11:13 +0200 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> <33b0a7d8-8eab-50d9-0fa8-c0e66346ec4b@apc.org> Message-ID: Thank you everyone for your emails of support. We are now getting ready to submit the letter to the appropriate persons. ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-02-02 9:58 GMT+02:00 Lorena Jaume-Palasi : > +1 > > > 2017-02-02 8:40 GMT+01:00 Akinremi Peter Taiwo : > >> Hope it's not too late. I also support and therefore endorsed the letter. >> >> Thanks >> Peter. >> On Feb 1, 2017 4:31 PM, "Nyangkwe Agien Aaron" >> wrote: >> >>> I endorse it totally >>> >>> Agien Nyangkwe >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Arsène Tungali >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> Thanks Mawaki for your comments and explanation about the spirit behind >>>> the letter. >>>> >>>> Thanks Anriette and everyone who made a comment or approved it already. >>>> >>>> As promised, we have few hours for us to close it and send it. >>>> So, if you have an addition or a comment, please feel free to write to >>>> the list. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> A >>>> >>>> ------------------------ >>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>> *, >>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>> Forum * >>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>> >>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>> >>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>> >>>> & Mexico >>>> ) >>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>> & Marrakech >>>> >>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>> >>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-02-01 17:15 GMT+02:00 Anriette Esterhuysen : >>>> >>>>> The letter looks very good to me. Apologies for missing the deadline. >>>>> >>>>> Anriette >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 01/02/2017 11:18, Mawaki Chango wrote: >>>>> > Dear Arsène et al. >>>>> > >>>>> > We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should >>>>> not be >>>>> > approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, on >>>>> the >>>>> > world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into >>>>> > endless debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to >>>>> take >>>>> > a turn to, or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we further >>>>> > motivated the exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the >>>>> specific >>>>> > communication that prompted it. >>>>> > >>>>> > You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions >>>>> > prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. >>>>> > Apparently he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep >>>>> quiet, >>>>> > on the issue (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your >>>>> > response, I stand to be corrected.) >>>>> > >>>>> > In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions >>>>> > should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex >>>>> > political and security issues that the government might be dealing >>>>> with >>>>> > on the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, >>>>> maybe >>>>> > Janvier just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale >>>>> > condemnation of his country in the global community of civil society. >>>>> > But the email posted is there including terms and a rationale which >>>>> are >>>>> > unacceptable to us, and we needed to express our concern and register >>>>> > our disapproval of such. We are not making claims as to how hard >>>>> working >>>>> > and committed ISOC Cameroon may or may not be toward facilitating >>>>> > Internet access to all in Cameroon, in ordinary times. >>>>> > >>>>> > Mawaki >>>>> > >>>>> > On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" >>>> > > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Dear Norbert, Mawaki, >>>>> > >>>>> > Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder >>>>> if >>>>> > anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it >>>>> for >>>>> > the first time on our website will be able to understand the >>>>> > background. Just thinking outloud :) >>>>> > >>>>> > I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if >>>>> applicable. I >>>>> > suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. >>>>> > >>>>> > We will then post it on our website and send it to the >>>>> appropriate >>>>> > persons, to follow the process as agreed here. >>>>> > >>>>> > Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good >>>>> sign >>>>> > imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally >>>>> > sent this letter. >>>>> > >>>>> > Hope this is fine with you'all. >>>>> > >>>>> > Thanks, >>>>> > A >>>>> > ----------------- >>>>> > Arsène Tungali, >>>>> > @arsenebaguma >>>>> > +243 993810967 >>>>> > GPG: 523644A0 >>>>> > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >>>>> > >>>>> > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) >>>>> > >>>>> > > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow >>>> > > wrote: >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Dear Arsène and all >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Please find our proposal at >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0up >>>>> PKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit >>>>> > >>>> pPKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit> >>>>> > > >>>>> > > I'm also including the text below. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Greetings, >>>>> > > Norbert >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > -- draft starts -- >>>>> > > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Dear Colleagues >>>>> > > >>>>> > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, >>>>> > http://igcaucus.org) >>>>> > > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came >>>>> > > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information >>>>> Society >>>>> > > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet >>>>> > > governance policy making. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not >>>>> acceptable in >>>>> > > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that >>>>> such >>>>> > > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with >>>>> ISOC to >>>>> > > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is >>>>> for >>>>> > > Everyone”. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > For further elaboration of the important principle of >>>>> /Internet access >>>>> > > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we >>>>> refer to >>>>> > > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, >>>>> > > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ >>>>> > . >>>>> > > >>>>> > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to >>>>> respectfully >>>>> > > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong >>>>> stance >>>>> > > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the >>>>> country, and to >>>>> > > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all >>>>> earnestness. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to >>>>> our >>>>> > > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC >>>>> Cameroon, >>>>> > > President” and which expressed views that were not at all >>>>> consistent >>>>> > > with the above. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Best regards >>>>> > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > -- draft ends -- >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 >>>>> > > Arsène Tungali >>>> > > wrote: >>>>> > > >>>>> > >> Dear Norbert, >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this >>>>> task. I am >>>>> > >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that >>>>> everyone >>>>> > >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC >>>>> Global. >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow >>>>> at least >>>>> > >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. >>>>> Please do >>>>> > >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but >>>>> just >>>>> > >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the >>>>> margins >>>>> > >> of the doc). >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> Regards, >>>>> > >> A >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> ------------------------ >>>>> > >> **Arsène Tungali** >>>>> > >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>>> > >> >>>> > >*, >>>>> > >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, >>>>> *Mabingwa >>>>> > >> Forum * >>>>> > >> Tel: +243 993810967 >>>>> > >> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>> > >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >>>> ela-washington.html >>>>> > >>>> ela-washington.html>> >>>>> > >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >>>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors- >>>>> programme/Past-Ambassadors >>>>> > >>>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors- >>>>> programme/Past-Ambassadors>> >>>>> > >> & Mexico >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >>>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors >>>>> > >>>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>>) >>>>> > >> - AFRISIG 2016 >>>> 16/class-of-2016/ >>>>> > > - >>>>> > >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los >>>>> Angeles >>>>> > >> >>>> > > & >>>>> Marrakech >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >>>> s-2016-03-14-en >>>>> > >>>> s-2016-03-14-en>> >>>>> > >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >>>> lowship-winners >>>>> > >>>> lowship-winners>>)* >>>>> > >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost >>>>> UK >>>>> > >> >>>> > > >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow >>>> > >: >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >>> Dear Arsène and all >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that >>>>> Mawaki >>>>> > >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki >>>>> and I >>>>> > >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC >>>>> Cameroon. At >>>>> > >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made >>>>> clear in >>>>> > >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global >>>>> is >>>>> > >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are >>>>> volunteers who >>>>> > >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of >>>>> conduct as >>>>> > >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we >>>>> cannot >>>>> > >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any >>>>> Chapter >>>>> > >>> official's position and put them in the position to be >>>>> answerable >>>>> > >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we >>>>> address a >>>>> > >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is >>>>> already >>>>> > >>> known. >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly >>>>> focused, >>>>> > >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which >>>>> should >>>>> > >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate >>>>> in IGC. >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> Greetings, >>>>> > >>> Norbert >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 >>>>> > >>> Arsène Tungali >>>> > > wrote: >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>>> Dear colleagues, >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> Starting a new thread. >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern >>>>> about >>>>> > >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country >>>>> added >>>>> > >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced >>>>> Internet >>>>> > >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this >>>>> more >>>>> > >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem >>>>> this >>>>> > >>>> new form of oppression. >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their >>>>> > >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown >>>>> in >>>>> > >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon >>>>> > >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, >>>>> which >>>>> > >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his >>>>> other >>>>> > >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his >>>>> other >>>>> > >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an >>>>> appeal, >>>>> > >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going >>>>> on in >>>>> > >>>> his country. >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> ?utm_content= >>>>> > >>>> ?utm_content=> >>>>> > >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com >>>>> > &utm_campaign=buffer> >>>>> > >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other >>>>> countries. >>>>> > >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support >>>>> > >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> as-seidler >>>> rg/who-we-are/people/mr-nicolas-seidler>>, >>>>> > >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing >>>>> > >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon >>>>> > >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. >>>>> We are >>>>> > >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from >>>>> Access and >>>>> > >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media >>>>> channels. >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to >>>>> say: >>>>> > >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many >>>>> other >>>>> > >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters >>>>> share the >>>>> > >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not >>>>> staff), >>>>> > >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to >>>>> direct them >>>>> > >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point >>>>> of >>>>> > >>>>> view from Mr. >>>>> > >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is >>>>> completely >>>>> > >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is >>>>> > >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In >>>>> > >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a >>>>> > >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* >>>>> > >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC >>>>> > >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance >>>>> > >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and >>>>> > >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us >>>>> > >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning >>>>> Internet >>>>> > >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition >>>>> because I >>>>> > >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are >>>>> taking (as >>>>> > >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the >>>>> expertise we >>>>> > >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all >>>>> networks >>>>> > >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness >>>>> about the >>>>> > >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not >>>>> actively >>>>> > >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced >>>>> any >>>>> > >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few >>>>> volunteers >>>>> > >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another >>>>> > >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without >>>>> > >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 >>>>> to >>>>> > >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this >>>>> list >>>>> > >>>> within the next 48 hours. >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> Very best, >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator >>>>> > > >>>>> > > ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> > >>>>> > > To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> > >>>>> > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> > >>>>> > To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> > >>>>> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> > >>>>> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> > To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> > >>>>> > For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> > >>>>> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ----------------------------------------- >>>>> Anriette Esterhuysen >>>>> Executive Director >>>>> Association for Progressive Communications >>>>> anriette at apc.org >>>>> www.apc.org >>>>> IM: ae_apc >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Aaron Agien NYANGKWE >>> P.O.Box 5213 >>> Douala-Cameroon >>> Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > > Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance > Arbeitsgruppe > > Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. > > www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter > > ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ > Youtube > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 05:26:19 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 11:26:19 +0100 Subject: [governance] Serious Matters for ISOC Message-ID: ISOC has achieved a lot of things for the internet society ( I do not need to mention them), thanks to the contribution of the many eminent personalities that make that group. Such laudable achievement cannot be allowed to be smeared by egregious lie-telling from some members, be they those working pro-bono for ISOC. The story of “War against secessionists” peddled here by Janvier Gnoulaye goes on record as the fattest lie of 2017 and may be in history if we put aside George Bush's "arms of Mass destruction in Irak". Let me explain: since what is referred to officially in Cameroon as "the anglophone problem" started in October 2016. There has never been a single day that any government official has talked of war in the "Anglophone regions". I will advise our eminent members to google Camerooun: Communication du gouvernement sur le Problème Anglophone and see whether the government spokesman, Mr Issa Tchiroma Bakary (Minister of Communication) has ever used the word "war" even a single time. This now brings to question the credibility of he who heads ISOC Cameroon. Mr Janvier Gnoulaye (PHD) talks of an Assembly that took place and came out with that phrase. It will be better for ISOC to get him provide the minutes of that assembly including the scanned sheet of attendees. That will be the only way some of us can believe that ISOC takes Cameroon (a country to which I belong) seriously, not just the representation to increase numbers for a certain agenda. I am morally shattered here! We have seen the effect of war in Irak, Syria, Libya and even in Cameroon here against Boko Haram where a General and Colonel including two military officers of that war front died last week in a chopper crash. And if an ISOC Chapter President, talking in that capacity, declares that there is war when none exists, then that calls for serious questioning. ISOC’s credibility is at stake here if such serious matters are down looked upon. How can that be when one looks at the eminent personalities on and within ISOC? Cameroon’s chapter leadership needs serious questioning NOW! There must be a follow up after that letter Yours sincerely Nyangkwe Agien -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE Journalist-Outcome-Mapper P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 05:37:06 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 11:37:06 +0100 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [cameroon_politics] Cameroon :Lawyers assaulted & BBC journalist arrested at military tribunal in Yaounde In-Reply-To: <2076868544.4199484.1486028629659@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2076868544.4199484.1486028629659.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <2076868544.4199484.1486028629659@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Francis Njung njungf at yahoo.com [cameroon_politics] < cameroon_politics at yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:43 AM Subject: [cameroon_politics] Cameroon :Lawyers assaulted & BBC journalist arrested at military tribunal in Yaounde To: "cameroon_politics at yahoogroups.com" , "boyo at yahoogroups.com" Cameroon :Lawyers assaulted & BBC journalist arrested at military tribunal in Yaounde posted by Akene Jude February 1, 2017 Africa , Home photo of entrance to military tribunal today Reports says Lawyers have been assaulted and interrupted in the middle of a press conference and a BBC journalist Randy Joe Sa’a arrested,all his apparels taken at military tribunal. According to military personel alleged to be a court clerk of the military court, there are orders that no media should cover the event at the military tribunal except the State own CRTV . A lawyer( name withheld) present at the scene lament that “What got me so bemused was the fact that a military personnel threatened to beat lawyers and passed an interim order that all lawyers will be searched before the leave the court premises. This got me flabbergasted. Where is the rule of law?? Is searching not governed by law?, he question. Alafnet.com understands the lawyers who were present at the military tribunal today 1st of January, 2017 were temporary held hostage. The order was later revoked. Meanwhile Senior former Batoniers, Ni Muna Esq. Eta Bisong Esq. Ntumfor Nico Halle Esq held close door sessions to secure the release of the BBC correspondent Randy Joe Sa’a . Their reports is to the effect that he will be released but all his apparels will be probed and images deleted. “It was a very disturbing and irksome scene which almost blew up to exchange of blows between lawyers and military.when they attempted seizing phones of lawyers. So sad in our own home” add the same lawyer. __._,_.___ ------------------------------ Posted by: Francis Njung ------------------------------ Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1) ------------------------------ Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 05:41:28 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 11:41:28 +0100 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [cameroon_politics] British Parliament Host forum on the Southern Cameroons Crisis In-Reply-To: <1490743740.4145708.1486028248510@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1490743740.4145708.1486028248510.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1490743740.4145708.1486028248510@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Subject: [cameroon_politics] British Parliament Host forum on the Southern Cameroons Crisis [image: British Parliament Host forum on the Southern Cameroons Crisis] British Parliament Host forum on the Southern Cameroons Crisis 2, February 2017 British parliamentarians were shocked and some reduced to tears yesterday evening as they listened in silence to the horror committed in British Southern Cameroons by troops loyal to the Biya regime. In a rare diplomatic push of the Southern Cameroons case, the House of Commons hosted prominent Southern Cameroon elites based in the UK in Committee Room 10. *Cameroon Intelligence Report* gathered that Professor Nelson Enonchong presented a brilliant submission on Cameroon’s Constitutional and Legal Background. Another speaker was Professor Priscilla Nkenti who elaborated on the current unrest in Cameroon and highlighted the immediate causes and consequences. Cameroon’s Acting High Commissioner to the UK, Joel Herve Nguenkam spoke of the measures by the Biya Francophone government to resolve the problems. The British MPs were visibly moved and praised the cream of Southern Cameroons academics for the initiative and the Southern Cameroonians for their bravery and the resistance. The House of Common is expected to hold a debate on the Anglophone problem soonest. By Chi Prudence Asong Related Posts [image: Vatican, EU voice opposition to US travel ban] Breaking News / Vatican, EU voice opposition to US travel ban [image: Biya regime manipulating the National Commission for Human Rights] Headline News / Biya regime manipulating the National Commission for Human Rights [image: Anglophone Roman Catholic Bishops say resumption of schools and calling off the strike depends on effective provision of a lasting solution to the crisis] News / Anglophone Roman Catholic Bishops say resumption of schools and calling off the strike depends on effective provision of a lasting solution to the crisis __._,_.___ ------------------------------ Posted by: Francis Njung ------------------------------ Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1) ------------------------------ Have you tried the highest rated email app? 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 05:56:22 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 11:56:22 +0100 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Fears for jailed activists as Cameroon cracks down on anglophone minority In-Reply-To: <1244208307.735386.1486000094987@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1244208307.735386.1486000094987.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1244208307.735386.1486000094987@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: -Subject: Fears for jailed activists as Cameroon cracks down on anglophone minority Fears for jailed activists as Cameroon cracks down on anglophone minority Agbor Balla and Fontem Neba could face death penalty over protests to promote rights of nation’s English-speaking minority [image: Bamenda, Cameroon, on 8 December 2016.] Bamenda, the country’s largest anglophone city, where at least four people were killed in December. Photograph: Stringer/Reuters - - - - View more sharing options Shares 949 Ruth Maclean in Dakar Wednesday 1 February 2017 07.35 ESTLast modified on Wednesday 1 February 2017 11.15 EST Two activists jailed for trying to promote anglophone rights in Cameroon will remain in prison after their trial for terrorism was delayed without an official explanation. Human rights lawyer Felix Agbor Balla and university lecturer Fontem Neba, who were arrested last month, could face the death penalty for organising peaceful protests to promote the rights of the English-speaking minority in the central African country. Cameroon urged to investigate deaths amid anglophone protests Read more What is today known as the Republic of Cameroon was, from 1922 to 1961, split into a French territory and a British mandate territory. Since independence, many anglophone Cameroonians have felt marginalised in a country where the majority speaks French. Protests erupted late last year against the use of French in courts, and quickly spread to schools and universities after teachers agreed to strike over the dominance of the French language. In Bamenda, the country’s largest anglophone city, at least four people were killed in December when security forces fired live ammunition in the air and launched teargas into a market despite no evidence that there was a protest taking place. Agbor Balla and Neba, the leaders of the Cameroon Anglophone Civil Society Consortium, were arrested after organising “ghost towns” – stay-at-home protests against “oppression, marginalisation, and deprivation”. Tried alongside them will be Bibixy Mancho, an activist who in November marched alone through Bamenda in west Cameroon, carrying a coffin and shouting that he was prepared to die for his cause. “This case has political undertones. We’re just hoping the judges will be fair, but some are afraid. I don’t see why they charged them with terrorism,” said Lawrence Nganda, one of the barristers acting for Agbor Balla and Neba. He has been visiting the men in prison every day, taking them food and water, but said that their families had been too afraid to visit. An online petition has been started calling on the country’s president, Paul Biya, to free Agbor Balla and Neba. On Wednesday more than 60 lawyers arrived at the military tribunal where their case was due to be held on Wednesday. Tensions were high in court after lawyers videoing the proceedings clashed with soldiers, who said filming and taking pictures were forbidden and tried to seize their equipment. No official reason for the postponement was given, but unofficially, lawyers understood that it was because a Cameroonian general had died in a plane crash and many of those working at the court were planning to attend the funeral. Amnesty International has called for the prisoners’ immediate and unconditional release. *“*This worrying pattern of arbitrary arrests, detention and harassment of civil society members is entirely at odds with the international human rights law and standards that Cameroon has committed to uphold,” said Amnesty’s Ilaria Allegrozzi. Sean O’Brien, Agbor Balla’s former law professor in the US, called for his former pupil to be freed. “Felix is a natural leader of people. He leads by inspiring others to articulate a shared sense of justice and the common good. He is as confident and comfortable in the courtroom making legal arguments as he is in the streets making moral arguments. It is precisely these qualities which make him a threat to the status quo in Cameroon.” Two weeks ago, the government shut down the internet in the anglophone regions of Cameroon, replicating a technique to stifle opposition that has been on the rise across the African continent. There have been internet shutdowns over elections in the Gambia, Gabon and Uganda in the past year. In a last communiqué before he was arrested on 17 January, Agbor Balla told his supporters that the anglophone consortium had been banned and that he expected to be detained. “We thank all west Cameroonians for endorsing the non-violent resistance initiated by the consortium and call on us all to remain resilient in our march into freedom,” he wrote. “Always remember Dr Myles Munroe’s words when he said: ‘The greatest tragedy in life is not death, but a life without purpose.’” French is the main language in eight regions out of 10, with 63.7% of the population aged 15 and older reading and writing French. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ambasbay" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ambasbay+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. 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You did wonderfully well. > > Peter. > On Feb 1, 2017 6:25 PM, "Analia Aspis" wrote: > >> Dear list, >> >> As you may know, on January 2017 expired my role as IGC co-coordinator. >> This means that from now, I do not have any responsiblity or tasks to >> follow under such role. The current Coordinator, Arsene Tungali will very >> soon send a call to the list to request self-nominations for those you may >> wish to have the experience of this lovely and challenging task. After the >> closure for such call and after receiving the self-nominations along with >> their expression of interest to become co-coordinator of the IGC for the >> 2017-2019 period, a votation link will be provided to vote. >> Besides the election process that will be run by Arsene, you will be >> shortly as well be informed by him, on the technical changes that will be >> implemented, since we have been informed that by 1st March 2017, the >> enterprise that worked with IGC for the past 7 years, has decided to end >> their business, which means that all the information related to IGC should >> be backed up and migrate to a new plattform, which I think and knowing how >> Arsene works, it would be definetively fresh and very professional. >> >> Despite this quick report on how it will be handled this technical and >> administrative issues, I would love to thank all of you for your patiente, >> good vibes and help over this past 2 years. I have learn a lot and better >> understood how challenging it can be an international network where I tried >> my best, to enhance the values of respect, inclusion and diversity. Of >> course this could not have been done without the help of my two >> co-coordinators, Deidre and Arsene, from which I have not only learned at >> lot but achived a great team work. Now with Arsene and the new person who >> will take the lead, a new phase starts, with a lot of opportinitues and >> visions. >> >> Again, thanks a lot for your participation and work, see you anytime, >> anywhere, >> Regards, >> Analía Aspis >> IGC- former co-coordinator >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Good day to you kanumuri s raju " We Connect human contacts " " We make net to think and act " " Survival is h-commerce -human commerce or human knowledge commerce based on Bartering of knowledge Globally with out money as instrument " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- kkkrkstrust - Social and community empowerment and support services Create Green world: Share your Knowledge to make India Green - Eco System and self sustainability of world through communities and Internet technologies collaboration knowledge collaboration commerce sustainable smart villages to connect next 3.4 billion people. On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron < nyangkweagien at gmail.com> wrote: > Analia > > Thanks for your leadership. > > Aaron > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:54 AM, Akinremi Peter Taiwo < > compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote: > >> +1 Analia. You did wonderfully well. >> >> Peter. >> On Feb 1, 2017 6:25 PM, "Analia Aspis" wrote: >> >>> Dear list, >>> >>> As you may know, on January 2017 expired my role as IGC co-coordinator. >>> This means that from now, I do not have any responsiblity or tasks to >>> follow under such role. The current Coordinator, Arsene Tungali will very >>> soon send a call to the list to request self-nominations for those you may >>> wish to have the experience of this lovely and challenging task. After the >>> closure for such call and after receiving the self-nominations along with >>> their expression of interest to become co-coordinator of the IGC for the >>> 2017-2019 period, a votation link will be provided to vote. >>> Besides the election process that will be run by Arsene, you will be >>> shortly as well be informed by him, on the technical changes that will be >>> implemented, since we have been informed that by 1st March 2017, the >>> enterprise that worked with IGC for the past 7 years, has decided to end >>> their business, which means that all the information related to IGC should >>> be backed up and migrate to a new plattform, which I think and knowing how >>> Arsene works, it would be definetively fresh and very professional. >>> >>> Despite this quick report on how it will be handled this technical and >>> administrative issues, I would love to thank all of you for your patiente, >>> good vibes and help over this past 2 years. I have learn a lot and better >>> understood how challenging it can be an international network where I tried >>> my best, to enhance the values of respect, inclusion and diversity. Of >>> course this could not have been done without the help of my two >>> co-coordinators, Deidre and Arsene, from which I have not only learned at >>> lot but achived a great team work. Now with Arsene and the new person who >>> will take the lead, a new phase starts, with a lot of opportinitues and >>> visions. >>> >>> Again, thanks a lot for your participation and work, see you anytime, >>> anywhere, >>> Regards, >>> Analía Aspis >>> IGC- former co-coordinator >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Aaron Agien NYANGKWE > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 09:13:40 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 16:13:40 +0200 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Internet Governance Caucus letter to ISOC Cameroon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear colleagues, The letter has been sent (see bellow). Please do dissimulate to other ISOC Cameroon Chapter individual members and to the press as appropriate. Special thanks to Mawaki and Norbert who led this process. Best regards, A ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Arsène Tungali Date: 2017-02-02 16:10 GMT+02:00 Subject: Internet Governance Caucus letter to ISOC Cameroon To: info at isoc-cameroon.org Cc: Dawit Bekele , dogniez at isoc.org, Chapter Delegates < Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>, jnoulaye at gmail.com, mail at connectedcommunity.org, Manga Balbine Dear ISOC Cameroon leadership, Please do find attached and copied bellow a statement from the Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) with regards to the current Internet shutdown affecting some regions of Cameroon. Best regards, Arsene Tungali, IGC Coordinator ---Statement begins--- To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter Dear Colleagues The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, http://igcaucus.org ) is a global network of civil society actors who originally came together in the context of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet governance policy making. We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for Everyone”. For further elaboration of the important principle of Internet access and affordability along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ . In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent with the above. Best regards, Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) ---Statement ends--- ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please do dissimulate to other ISOC > Cameroon Chapter individual members and to the press as appropriate. > > Special thanks to Mawaki and Norbert who led this process. > > Best regards, > A > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Arsène Tungali > Date: 2017-02-02 16:10 GMT+02:00 > Subject: Internet Governance Caucus letter to ISOC Cameroon > To: info at isoc-cameroon.org > Cc: Dawit Bekele , dogniez at isoc.org, Chapter Delegates < > Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>, jnoulaye at gmail.com, > mail at connectedcommunity.org, Manga Balbine > > > Dear ISOC Cameroon leadership, > > Please do find attached and copied bellow a statement from the Internet > Governance Caucus (IGC) with regards to the current Internet shutdown > affecting some regions of Cameroon. > > Best regards, > Arsene Tungali, IGC Coordinator > > ---Statement begins--- > > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > Dear Colleagues > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, http://igcaucus.org ) > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came together in > the context of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) to > promote global public interest objectives in Internet governance policy > making. > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to be > committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for Everyone”. > > For further elaboration of the important principle of Internet access and > affordability along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to the > African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ . > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance in > regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our mailing > list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, President” and > which expressed views that were not at all consistent with the above. > > Best regards, > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > > ---Statement ends--- > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From echeberria at isoc.org Thu Feb 2 13:50:37 2017 From: echeberria at isoc.org (Raul Echeberria) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 18:50:37 +0000 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> <33b0a7d8-8eab-50d9-0fa8-c0e66346ec4b@apc.org> Message-ID: <25DAD0B8-5D7F-4385-9694-DAFAB3A6C18C@isoc.org> Dear all: I would like to reiterare Internet Society position about Internet shutdowns not only in Cameroon, but in any part of the world. www.internetsociety.org/lets-keep-internet-everyone?utm_content=bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer This position is very consistent with the open access principles we have promoted for the last 25 years. We recognize that there could be different views on this point, even from people related to ISOC community and/or to the Internet Society Cameroon chapter. That continue being our position on this matter. I respectfully insist in the fact that even in the cases in which the government take decisions of limiting Internet access based on apparently justified reasons, the consequences of those restrictions are always the opposite of what they intend to achieve. There are no good justifications for cutting Interne access to the people. We are in permanent dialogue with our Cameroon Chapter expecting to provide more clarity to the community on this issue, and we continue expressing our willingness to work with all stakeholders, including of course the government of Cameroon, for addressing their concerns in a way that don’t compromise the ability of all the people to connect to the internet and to benefit from that access in terms of social, human and economic development. Best regards, Raúl Echeberría Internet Society VP Global Engagement El 2 feb. 2017, a las 10:11, Arsène Tungali > escribió: Thank you everyone for your emails of support. We are now getting ready to submit the letter to the appropriate persons. ------------------------ *Arsène Tungali* Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international, CEO, Smart Services Sarl, Mabingwa Forum Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius) - IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-02-02 9:58 GMT+02:00 Lorena Jaume-Palasi >: +1 2017-02-02 8:40 GMT+01:00 Akinremi Peter Taiwo >: Hope it's not too late. I also support and therefore endorsed the letter. Thanks Peter. On Feb 1, 2017 4:31 PM, "Nyangkwe Agien Aaron" > wrote: I endorse it totally Agien Nyangkwe On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Arsène Tungali > wrote: Hi everyone, Thanks Mawaki for your comments and explanation about the spirit behind the letter. Thanks Anriette and everyone who made a comment or approved it already. As promised, we have few hours for us to close it and send it. So, if you have an addition or a comment, please feel free to write to the list. Regards, A ------------------------ *Arsène Tungali* Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international, CEO, Smart Services Sarl, Mabingwa Forum Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius) - IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-02-01 17:15 GMT+02:00 Anriette Esterhuysen >: The letter looks very good to me. Apologies for missing the deadline. Anriette On 01/02/2017 11:18, Mawaki Chango wrote: > Dear Arsène et al. > > We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should not be > approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, on the > world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into > endless debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to take > a turn to, or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we further > motivated the exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the specific > communication that prompted it. > > You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions > prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. > Apparently he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep quiet, > on the issue (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your > response, I stand to be corrected.) > > In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions > should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex > political and security issues that the government might be dealing with > on the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, maybe > Janvier just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale > condemnation of his country in the global community of civil society. > But the email posted is there including terms and a rationale which are > unacceptable to us, and we needed to express our concern and register > our disapproval of such. We are not making claims as to how hard working > and committed ISOC Cameroon may or may not be toward facilitating > Internet access to all in Cameroon, in ordinary times. > > Mawaki > > On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" > >> wrote: > > Dear Norbert, Mawaki, > > Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder if > anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it for > the first time on our website will be able to understand the > background. Just thinking outloud :) > > I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. I > suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. > > We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate > persons, to follow the process as agreed here. > > Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good sign > imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally > sent this letter. > > Hope this is fine with you'all. > > Thanks, > A > ----------------- > Arsène Tungali, > @arsenebaguma > +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo > > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > > > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow > >> wrote: > > > > Dear Arsène and all > > > > Please find our proposal at > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upPKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit > > > > > I'm also including the text below. > > > > Greetings, > > Norbert > > > > > > -- draft starts -- > > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > > > Dear Colleagues > > > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, > http://igcaucus.org) > > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came > > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information Society > > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet > > governance policy making. > > > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in > > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such > > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. > > > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to > > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for > > Everyone”. > > > > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet access > > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to > > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, > > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ > . > > > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully > > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance > > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to > > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. > > > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our > > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, > > President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent > > with the above. > > > > Best regards > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > > > > > > > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org > > > > > > -- draft ends -- > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 > > Arsène Tungali > >> wrote: > > > >> Dear Norbert, > >> > >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I am > >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that everyone > >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC Global. > >> > >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at least > >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do > >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just > >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the margins > >> of the doc). > >> > >> Regards, > >> A > >> > >> ------------------------ > >> **Arsène Tungali** > >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > >> > >>*, > >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl >*, *Mabingwa > >> Forum >* > >> Tel: +243 993810967 > >> GPG: 523644A0 > >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > >> > >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > >> > > > >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > >> > > > >> & Mexico > >> > >) > >> - AFRISIG 2016 > - > >> Blogger > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > >> > & Marrakech > >> > > > >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > >> > >)* > >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > >> > > >> > >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow > >>: > >> > >>> Dear Arsène and all > >>> > >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki > >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. > >>> > >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I > >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At > >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in > >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is > >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers who > >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct as > >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot > >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any Chapter > >>> official's position and put them in the position to be answerable > >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a > >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is already > >>> known. > >>> > >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, > >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should > >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC. > >>> > >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. > >>> > >>> Greetings, > >>> Norbert > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 > >>> Arsène Tungali > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear colleagues, > >>>> > >>>> Starting a new thread. > >>>> > >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about > >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added > >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet > >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more > >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this > >>>> new form of oppression. > >>>> > >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their > >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in > >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon > >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which > >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other > >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other > >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, > >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in > >>>> his country. > >>>> > >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement > >>>> > > >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com > >&utm_campaign=buffer> > >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. > >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support > >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). > >>>> > >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler > >>>> > >, > >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: > >>>> > >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing > >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon > >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are > >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and > >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. > >>>> > >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: > >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other > >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the > >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), > >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them > >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. > >>>> > >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of > >>>>> view from Mr. > >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely > >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is > >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In > >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a > >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* > >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC > >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance > >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and > >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us > >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? > >>>> > >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet > >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I > >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as > >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we > >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks > >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the > >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively > >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any > >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers > >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* > >>>> > >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another > >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without > >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to > >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list > >>>> within the next 48 hours. > >>>> > >>>> Very best, > >>>> > >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- ----------------------------------------- Anriette Esterhuysen Executive Director Association for Progressive Communications anriette at apc.org www.apc.org IM: ae_apc ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance Arbeitsgruppe Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ Youtube ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Thu Feb 2 19:37:49 2017 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 21:37:49 -0300 Subject: [governance] Serious Matters for ISOC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Nyangkwe, i thank you very much for your clear statement and explanation. I was very horrified, when I read the emails of Janvier Ngnoulaye. For our friends on the global ISOC list i have append the two mails from Janvier Ngnoulaye. The declarations from the IGF our friends can distribute it independent on the ISOC global list. many greetings, willi Asuncion, Paraguay On 02/02/2017 07:26, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron wrote: > ISOC has achieved a lot of things for the internet society ( I do not need > to mention them), thanks to the contribution of the many eminent > personalities that make that group. Such laudable achievement cannot be > allowed to be smeared by egregious lie-telling from some members, be they > those working pro-bono for ISOC. > > The story of “War against secessionists” peddled here by Janvier Gnoulaye > goes on record as the fattest lie of 2017 and may be in history if we put > aside George Bush's "arms of Mass destruction in Irak". Let me explain: > since what is referred to officially in Cameroon as "the anglophone > problem" started in October 2016. There has never been a single day that > any government official has talked of war in the "Anglophone regions". I > will advise our eminent members to google Camerooun: Communication du > gouvernement sur le Problème Anglophone and see whether the government > spokesman, Mr Issa Tchiroma Bakary (Minister of Communication) has ever > used the word "war" even a single time. > > This now brings to question the credibility of he who heads ISOC Cameroon. > Mr Janvier Gnoulaye (PHD) talks of an Assembly that took place and came out > with that phrase. It will be better for ISOC to get him provide the minutes > of that assembly including the scanned sheet of attendees. That will be the > only way some of us can believe that ISOC takes Cameroon (a country to > which I belong) seriously, not just the representation to increase numbers > for a certain agenda. I am morally shattered here! > > We have seen the effect of war in Irak, Syria, Libya and even in Cameroon > here against Boko Haram where a General and Colonel including two military > officers of that war front died last week in a chopper crash. And if an > ISOC Chapter President, talking in that capacity, declares that there is > war when none exists, then that calls for serious questioning. ISOC’s > credibility is at stake here if such serious matters are down looked upon. > How can that be when one looks at the eminent personalities on and within > ISOC? > > Cameroon’s chapter leadership needs serious questioning NOW! > > There must be a follow up after that letter > > Yours sincerely > > Nyangkwe Agien > -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 02:29:02 +0100 From: Janvier NGNOULAYE To: Internet Governance , Norbert Bollow , Arsène Tungali CC: Dawit Bekele , dawit at isoc.org, Joyce Dogniez , Dawit Bekele via Internet Society , chapter-d >> Chapter Delegates Dear Arsène, Norbert, Mawaki I appreciate your enthusiasm in your role. You are no more human rights activist than we are, or even more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter. We volunteer each day to work to make the Internet as open and accessible as possible to our local population. I do not need to show out here on this platform the actions and projects achieved so far. So you must understand that, we can not endorse a privation of the Internet to our population for whom we promote the open access of the Internet. I regret that you have misunderstand some words of my first mail on the matter. I would like to thank you for your concern on the case of Cameroon and also thank you for the declarative solution approach you are currently proposing. However, note that: 1) Cameroon is in a situation of war against Boko Haram, 2) Cameroon is in a situation of war against the secessionists, who have at one time erected their flag inside one part of the territory, no one knows by who they are supported and financed. 3) the current socio-political context is complex, and adding to that, there is still a lack of knowledge for using Internet tools by a big part of the population. 4) facing all of that, the government has taken security measures in its own way, some may be considered unfair, but it is wise for us to try to seat with them, discuss and work for the better solution, because we think that they need to be sensitized and educated about the better used of the Internet technologies and policies. 5) In a situation of conflict and crisis in a given country, there will be no an universal solution as you tend to suggest from your respective offices. 6) I chaired the ISOC Cameroon General Annual Assembly on Saturday 28 January 2017, this issue was addressed. Not need to expose its minutes to you here. So If you really want to help, please check back your proposal. I wanted to appeal the Internet Community, those who made a phone call to us to encourage us, and all the others of the community, to keep trusting ISOC Cameroon Chapter, who is working hard on the field to solve the issue. Best regards. Janvier Ngnoulaye, Ph.D ICT Teacher at the University President of the ISOC Cameroon Chapter. Activist of "The Internet is for everyone" http://www.internetsociety.cm/ -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!! Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:58:48 +0100 From: Janvier NGNOULAYE To: Internet Governance , Renata Aquino Ribeiro CC: Deji Bryce Olukotun , Arsène Tungali , Judith Hellerstein , Hi to all, It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable solutions. Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of Internet access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of the entire population of these 2 regions. Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the situation is not a disaster as some seem to publish on the Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union services. ISOC Cameroon Chapter President -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Fri Feb 3 00:34:08 2017 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 02:34:08 -0300 Subject: [governance] [Internet Policy] Serious Matters for ISOC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Olivier, many thanks for your answer. Independent, that i have no clear understanding, what is going on in Cameroon, based on some principles i can say: The ISOC as a Internet Society is oriented to the people. How the people organised her society and in what form, is her decision. Based on this principle i ask for a membership in ISOC. My experience with "war of sessession" anywhere on our planet is, that this results from violence state apparatus. And not from the people. For me, the people in any region itself have the right to decide, in what form of society they want to live. And all other have to accept it. In any situation the people need the interconnection to exchange her information, to understand the situation, to find a way to solve any conflicts, if that exist. And over bigger distances they need the telecommunication. Never i saw any etnical conflict. Always i see external groups and forces they use ethnical, cultural differences to create a conflict. And mostly to create the control and access of the natural resources in this specific region. And for ISOC? I think, we have to understand the "Core Values", the basic principles of ISOC. And this need the open space for our reflection and discussion. Also in this situation. Therefore, i thank you all very much for your contribution in this discussion. many greetings, willi On 03/02/2017 01:26, olivierkouami wrote: > Dear Willi and all, > > I just want to testify that there is really a war against Boko Haram in our region and country like Cameron is really in concern. > The cessessionism problem is an old ethnical problem well known in Cameroon too. > > In this crisis, I'm not supporting any party but I have only notices chat, in many part of the world the ISoc chapters have a general problem of renewing their Executive Committees. > Why ? > This is a general concernant ISoc International must find a definitive solution. The strengh is in union. > > My 2 Xof > Olévié > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From norbertglakpe at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 02:03:28 2017 From: norbertglakpe at gmail.com (Norbert Komlan GLAKPE) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 07:03:28 +0000 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown in Cameroun - Lessons learned Message-ID: Fellow listers, I would suggest we begin to put together the lessons learned and think at a mittigation plan. The partial breakdown of the Internet has actually revealed a great lack of knowledge and understanding of the fundamental values of internet governance. As you would all have noticed, there were many people who raised their voices from Cameroon, to oppose the messages that denounced the cut of the Internet. I would like to rate here two tweets for example: Https://twitter.com/hassan21job21/status/824658627948609536 and https://twitter.com/hassan21job21/status/824658902163877888 The mail of Janvier has been the confirmation of the previous, as we can notice it from the various interventions. For these reasons, I would suggest that the Isoc chapter delegates (at least) be trained on the cardinal principles of the Internet. Further more I would like to argue for the capacity building of a wider range of users in terms of internet governance. Additionally, I thinks that our message can be better understood if the oficials, the parliament members, the political deciders of our countries are trained on the basics of the internet governance. To simmarize the suggestions: 1. Specific Trainings to all ISoc Chapter Deledates (and all the potential civil society leaders who may not necessarily be a chapter delegate), 2. Internet Governance capacity building to a the users 3. Capacity building to the oficials, the parliament members, the political deciders of our countries Thanks Norbert Komlan GLAKPE 2017-02-01 9:18 GMT+00:00 Mawaki Chango : > Dear Arsène et al. > > We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should not be > approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, on the > world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into endless > debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to take a turn to, > or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we further motivated the > exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the specific communication that > prompted it. > > You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions prove > not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. Apparently he > would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep quiet, on the issue (if > I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your response, I stand to be > corrected.) > > In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions should > suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably complex political > and security issues that the government might be dealing with on the > ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, maybe Janvier > just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale condemnation of > his country in the global community of civil society. But the email posted > is there including terms and a rationale which are unacceptable to us, and > we needed to express our concern and register our disapproval of such. We > are not making claims as to how hard working and committed ISOC Cameroon > may or may not be toward facilitating Internet access to all in Cameroon, > in ordinary times. > > Mawaki > > On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" wrote: > > Dear Norbert, Mawaki, > > Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i wonder if anyone > who was not part of these discussions or who will see it for the first time > on our website will be able to understand the background. Just thinking > outloud :) > > I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if applicable. I > suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. > > We will then post it on our website and send it to the appropriate > persons, to follow the process as agreed here. > > Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good sign imo) > and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally sent this > letter. > > Hope this is fine with you'all. > > Thanks, > A > ----------------- > Arsène Tungali, > @arsenebaguma > +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo > > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > > > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow wrote: > > > > Dear Arsène and all > > > > Please find our proposal at > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upP > KnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit > > > > I'm also including the text below. > > > > Greetings, > > Norbert > > > > > > -- draft starts -- > > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > > > Dear Colleagues > > > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, http://igcaucus.org) > > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came > > together in the context of the World Summit on the Information Society > > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet > > governance policy making. > > > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in > > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such > > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. > > > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to > > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for > > Everyone”. > > > > For further elaboration of the important principle of /Internet access > > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to > > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, > > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ . > > > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully > > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance > > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to > > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. > > > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our > > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, > > President” and which expressed views that were not at all consistent > > with the above. > > > > Best regards > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > > > > > > > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org > > > > -- draft ends -- > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 > > Arsène Tungali wrote: > > > >> Dear Norbert, > >> > >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this task. I am > >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that everyone > >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC Global. > >> > >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow at least > >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. Please do > >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but just > >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in the margins > >> of the doc). > >> > >> Regards, > >> A > >> > >> ------------------------ > >> **Arsène Tungali** > >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > >> *, > >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa > >> Forum * > >> Tel: +243 993810967 > >> GPG: 523644A0 > >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > >> > >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > >> la-washington.html> > >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > >> dership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-p > rogramme/Past-Ambassadors> > >> & Mexico > >> dership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) > >> - AFRISIG 2016 - > >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > >> & Marrakech > >> -2016-03-14-en> > >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > >> owship-winners>)* > >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > >> > >> > >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow : > >> > >>> Dear Arsène and all > >>> > >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report that Mawaki > >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. > >>> > >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki and I > >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC Cameroon. At > >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made clear in > >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is > >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are volunteers who > >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of conduct as > >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we cannot > >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any Chapter > >>> official's position and put them in the position to be answerable > >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we address a > >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is already > >>> known. > >>> > >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly focused, > >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which should > >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth debate in IGC. > >>> > >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. > >>> > >>> Greetings, > >>> Norbert > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 > >>> Arsène Tungali wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear colleagues, > >>>> > >>>> Starting a new thread. > >>>> > >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about > >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country added > >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced Internet > >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more > >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly condem this > >>>> new form of oppression. > >>>> > >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their > >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the shutdown in > >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon > >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on this, which > >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his other > >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his other > >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an appeal, > >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going on in > >>>> his country. > >>>> > >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement > >>>> utm_content= > >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_cam > paign=buffer> > >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other countries. > >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support > >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). > >>>> > >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler > >>>> >, > >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: > >>>> > >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing > >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon > >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. We are > >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from Access and > >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media channels. > >>>> > >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this to say: > >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many other > >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters share the > >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), > >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to direct them > >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. > >>>> > >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal point of > >>>>> view from Mr. > >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is completely > >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is > >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In > >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a > >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* > >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC > >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance > >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and > >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us > >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? > >>>> > >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet > >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition because I > >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are taking (as > >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the expertise we > >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all networks > >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness about the > >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not actively > >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never experienced any > >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few volunteers > >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* > >>>> > >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another > >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without > >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of 3 to > >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this list > >>>> within the next 48 hours. > >>>> > >>>> Very best, > >>>> > >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here are the skillset we are looking for (added to that, someone who is available and ready to help within a short period of time): *Preferably * - someone who knows about Drupal or some other content management system (CMS), - someone who is comfortable creating MySQL databases and loading them from a backup, - someone who knows how to administer mailing list software such as Sympa including loading membership lists from a backup, and - someone who is comfortable in dealing with a virtual server hosting company to spin up a Linux-based virtual server. - Ideal: also knows about LDAP, Unix shell, and HTML. Even if you don’t have all of these but some of them, we need you so to put up a team to work this important matter out. Please do reach out to me in private and I will be glad to have you introduced to the details of the task. Please do understand that we REALLY need this to keep our group operating after March. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From remmyn at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 02:44:52 2017 From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 08:44:52 +0100 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Internet Governance Caucus letter to ISOC Cameroon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Arsene More encouraging Remmy On Feb 2, 2017 3:14 PM, "Arsène Tungali" wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > The letter has been sent (see bellow). Please do dissimulate to other ISOC > Cameroon Chapter individual members and to the press as appropriate. > > Special thanks to Mawaki and Norbert who led this process. > > Best regards, > A > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Arsène Tungali > Date: 2017-02-02 16:10 GMT+02:00 > Subject: Internet Governance Caucus letter to ISOC Cameroon > To: info at isoc-cameroon.org > Cc: Dawit Bekele , dogniez at isoc.org, Chapter Delegates < > Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>, jnoulaye at gmail.com, > mail at connectedcommunity.org, Manga Balbine > > > Dear ISOC Cameroon leadership, > > Please do find attached and copied bellow a statement from the Internet > Governance Caucus (IGC) with regards to the current Internet shutdown > affecting some regions of Cameroon. > > Best regards, > Arsene Tungali, IGC Coordinator > > ---Statement begins--- > > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > Dear Colleagues > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, http://igcaucus.org ) > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came together in > the context of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) to > promote global public interest objectives in Internet governance policy > making. > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not acceptable in > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that such > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves with ISOC to be > committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet is for Everyone”. > > For further elaboration of the important principle of Internet access and > affordability along with related rights and freedoms, we refer to the > African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ . > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to respectfully > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding strong stance in > regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the country, and to > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to our mailing > list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC Cameroon, President” and > which expressed views that were not at all consistent with the above. > > Best regards, > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > > ---Statement ends--- > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > ). 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From valentina at oneworldplatform.net Fri Feb 3 03:00:19 2017 From: valentina at oneworldplatform.net (valentina hvale pellizzer) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 09:00:19 +0100 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown in Cameroun - Lessons learned In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1dbda51d-0120-eca5-65ee-f9f30cb48333@oneworldplatform.net> Good morning (from my part of the world) I fully support the need of capacity building around principles and issues which should help a community to take decision and positions in difficult times. I would add that Internet governance need to embed human rights frameworks as one of its unavoidable element too best, hvale On 02/03/2017 08:03 AM, Norbert Komlan GLAKPE wrote: > Fellow listers, > I would suggest we begin to put together the lessons learned and think > at a mittigation plan. > > The partial breakdown of the Internet has actually revealed a great > lack of knowledge and understanding of the fundamental values of > internet governance. > As you would all have noticed, there were many people who raised their > voices from Cameroon, to oppose the messages that denounced the cut of > the Internet. I would like to rate here two tweets for example: > Https://twitter.com/hassan21job21/status/824658627948609536 > and https://twitter.com/hassan21job21/status/824658902163877888 > > The mail of Janvier has been the confirmation of the previous, as we > can notice it from the various interventions. > For these reasons, I would suggest that the Isoc chapter delegates (at > least) be trained on the cardinal principles of the Internet. Further > more I would like to argue for the capacity building of a wider range > of users in terms of internet governance. > Additionally, I thinks that our message can be better understood if > the oficials, the parliament members, the political deciders of our > countries are trained on the basics of the internet governance. > To simmarize the suggestions: > 1. Specific Trainings to all ISoc Chapter Deledates (and all the > potential civil society leaders who may not necessarily be a chapter > delegate), > 2. Internet Governance capacity building to a the users > 3. Capacity building to the oficials, the parliament members, the > political deciders of our countries > > Thanks > > Norbert Komlan GLAKPE > > > 2017-02-01 9:18 GMT+00:00 Mawaki Chango >: > > Dear Arsène et al. > > We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should > not be approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy > issue, on the world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want > this to get into endless debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither > did we want it to take a turn to, or us to be suspected of, > lecturing. That's why we further motivated the exercise, with a > narrow focus, by recalling the specific communication that > prompted it. > > You can see from Javier's first response that even those > precautions prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in > his view. Apparently he would want us to withdraw altogether from, > and keep quiet, on the issue (if I'm being mistaken here on the > implications of your response, I stand to be corrected.) > > In the meantime, I personally think our above described > precautions should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the > presumably complex political and security issues that the > government might be dealing with on the ground. In the > communication that prompted our statement, maybe Janvier just got > carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale condemnation of > his country in the global community of civil society. But the > email posted is there including terms and a rationale which are > unacceptable to us, and we needed to express our concern and > register our disapproval of such. We are not making claims as to > how hard working and committed ISOC Cameroon may or may not be > toward facilitating Internet access to all in Cameroon, in > ordinary times. > > Mawaki > > On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" > wrote: > > Dear Norbert, Mawaki, > > Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i > wonder if anyone who was not part of these discussions or who > will see it for the first time on our website will be able to > understand the background. Just thinking outloud :) > > I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if > applicable. I suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. > > We will then post it on our website and send it to the > appropriate persons, to follow the process as agreed here. > > Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good > sign imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have > formally sent this letter. > > Hope this is fine with you'all. > > Thanks, > A > ----------------- > Arsène Tungali, > @arsenebaguma > +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo > > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) > > > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow > wrote: > > > > Dear Arsène and all > > > > Please find our proposal at > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0upPKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit > > > > > I'm also including the text below. > > > > Greetings, > > Norbert > > > > > > -- draft starts -- > > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter > > > > Dear Colleagues > > > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, > http://igcaucus.org) > > is a global network of civil society actors who originally came > > together in the context of the World Summit on the > Information Society > > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in Internet > > governance policy making. > > > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not > acceptable in > > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and > that such > > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. > > > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves > with ISOC to > > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet > is for > > Everyone”. > > > > For further elaboration of the important principle of > /Internet access > > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, > we refer to > > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, > > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ > . > > > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to > respectfully > > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding > strong stance > > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the > country, and to > > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all earnestness. > > > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting > to our > > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC > Cameroon, > > President” and which expressed views that were not at all > consistent > > with the above. > > > > Best regards > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > > > > > > > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org > > > > > -- draft ends -- > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 > > Arsène Tungali > wrote: > > > >> Dear Norbert, > >> > >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this > task. I am > >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope > that everyone > >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC > Global. > >> > >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will > allow at least > >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. > Please do > >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but > just > >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in > the margins > >> of the doc). > >> > >> Regards, > >> A > >> > >> ------------------------ > >> **Arsène Tungali** > >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > >> >*, > >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, > *Mabingwa > >> Forum * > >> Tel: +243 993810967 > >> GPG: 523644A0 > >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > >> > >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > >> > > > >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > >> > > > >> & Mexico > >> > >) > >> - AFRISIG 2016 > > - > >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los > Angeles > >> > & > Marrakech > >> > > > >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > >> > >)* > >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > >> > > > >> > >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow >: > >> > >>> Dear Arsène and all > >>> > >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report > that Mawaki > >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. > >>> > >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki > and I > >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC > Cameroon. At > >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made > clear in > >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global is > >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are > volunteers who > >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of > conduct as > >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we > cannot > >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for > any Chapter > >>> official's position and put them in the position to be > answerable > >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we > address a > >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response > is already > >>> known. > >>> > >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly > focused, > >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles > which should > >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth > debate in IGC. > >>> > >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. > >>> > >>> Greetings, > >>> Norbert > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 > >>> Arsène Tungali > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear colleagues, > >>>> > >>>> Starting a new thread. > >>>> > >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern about > >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country > added > >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced > Internet > >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this more > >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly > condem this > >>>> new form of oppression. > >>>> > >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed their > >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the > shutdown in > >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon > >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on > this, which > >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his > other > >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his > other > >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an > appeal, > >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's > going on in > >>>> his country. > >>>> > >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement > >>>> > > >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com > &utm_campaign=buffer> > >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other > countries. > >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support > >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). > >>>> > >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler > >>>> > >, > >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: > >>>> > >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing > >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon > >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. > We are > >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from > Access and > >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media > channels. > >>>> > >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this > to say: > >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many > other > >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters > share the > >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not staff), > >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to > direct them > >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. > >>>> > >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal > point of > >>>>> view from Mr. > >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is > completely > >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is > >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In > >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding a > >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* > >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to ISOC > >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public stance > >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert and > >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with us > >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? > >>>> > >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning Internet > >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition > because I > >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are > taking (as > >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the > expertise we > >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all > networks > >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness > about the > >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not > actively > >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never > experienced any > >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few > volunteers > >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* > >>>> > >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another > >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without > >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of > 3 to > >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this > list > >>>> within the next 48 hours. > >>>> > >>>> Very best, > >>>> > >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: > http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- valentina pellizzer President One World Platform https://oneworldplatform.net/ mobile: +387 (0)61 484 038 phone/fax: +387 (0)33 834 899 twitter: @froatosebe Fingerprint 30AA 9445 D878 A6C9 FE41 E90D 52A5 36A6 B249 EDA9 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <25DAD0B8-5D7F-4385-9694-DAFAB3A6C18C@isoc.org> References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> <33b0a7d8-8eab-50d9-0fa8-c0e66346ec4b@apc.org> <25DAD0B8-5D7F-4385-9694-DAFAB3A6C18C@isoc.org> Message-ID: Thanks Raul, I am glad a top official staff member of ISOC was able to respond to our letter and we are glad you are a member of this list, so are few other ISOC staff members that I just accepted to join. As an ISOC member and an Ambassador to the IGF, I have good knwoledge about ISOC's principles, which I believe in. As you can see, this discussion brought in a lot of comment because we all care about ensuring an open Internet to everyone. We oppose such actions from any government or any other stakeholder who is using Internet shutdown as a way to solve an issue whatsoever, not only because we are a civil society group but because as you say, the results are always the contrary of what they expected in taking such an action. However, I noted the bellow quote from you about ISOC Cameroon: *We are in permanent dialogue with our Cameroon Chapter expecting to provide more clarity to the community on this issue, and we continue expressing our willingness to work with all stakeholders, including of course the government of Cameroon, for addressing their concerns in a way that don’t compromise the ability of all the people to connect to the internet and to benefit from that access in terms of social, human and economic development.* and really hope we will hear back from you on this list about the outcome of your conversation with the leadership of that specific chapter. Best regards, Arsene ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-02-02 20:50 GMT+02:00 Raul Echeberria : > > Dear all: > > > I would like to reiterare Internet Society position about Internet > shutdowns not only in Cameroon, but in any part of the world. > > www.internetsociety.org/lets-keep-internet-everyone?utm_ > content=bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign= > buffer > > This position is very consistent with the open access principles we have > promoted for the last 25 years. > We recognize that there could be different views on this point, even from > people related to ISOC community and/or to the Internet Society Cameroon > chapter. That continue being our position on this matter. > > I respectfully insist in the fact that even in the cases in which the > government take decisions of limiting Internet access based on apparently > justified reasons, the consequences of those restrictions are always the > opposite of what they intend to achieve. There are no good justifications > for cutting Interne access to the people. > > We are in permanent dialogue with our Cameroon Chapter expecting to > provide more clarity to the community on this issue, and we continue > expressing our willingness to work with all stakeholders, including of > course the government of Cameroon, for addressing their concerns in a way > that don’t compromise the ability of all the people to connect to the > internet and to benefit from that access in terms of social, human and > economic development. > > Best regards, > > > Raúl Echeberría > Internet Society > VP Global Engagement > > > > > > > El 2 feb. 2017, a las 10:11, Arsène Tungali > escribió: > > Thank you everyone for your emails of support. > We are now getting ready to submit the letter to the appropriate persons. > > > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > 2017-02-02 9:58 GMT+02:00 Lorena Jaume-Palasi : > >> +1 >> >> >> 2017-02-02 8:40 GMT+01:00 Akinremi Peter Taiwo : >> >>> Hope it's not too late. I also support and therefore endorsed the letter. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Peter. >>> On Feb 1, 2017 4:31 PM, "Nyangkwe Agien Aaron" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I endorse it totally >>>> >>>> Agien Nyangkwe >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Arsène Tungali >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Mawaki for your comments and explanation about the spirit >>>>> behind the letter. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Anriette and everyone who made a comment or approved it >>>>> already. >>>>> >>>>> As promised, we have few hours for us to close it and send it. >>>>> So, if you have an addition or a comment, please feel free to write to >>>>> the list. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> A >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------ >>>>> **Arsène Tungali** >>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>>> *, >>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa >>>>> Forum * >>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> >>>>> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>>> >>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>>> >>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>>> >>>>> & Mexico >>>>> ) >>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 - >>>>> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >>>>> & Marrakech >>>>> >>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>>> >>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2017-02-01 17:15 GMT+02:00 Anriette Esterhuysen : >>>>> >>>>>> The letter looks very good to me. Apologies for missing the deadline. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anriette >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 01/02/2017 11:18, Mawaki Chango wrote: >>>>>> > Dear Arsène et al. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should >>>>>> not be >>>>>> > approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue, >>>>>> on the >>>>>> > world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into >>>>>> > endless debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to >>>>>> take >>>>>> > a turn to, or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we >>>>>> further >>>>>> > motivated the exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the >>>>>> specific >>>>>> > communication that prompted it. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions >>>>>> > prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view. >>>>>> > Apparently he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep >>>>>> quiet, >>>>>> > on the issue (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your >>>>>> > response, I stand to be corrected.) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions >>>>>> > should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably >>>>>> complex >>>>>> > political and security issues that the government might be dealing >>>>>> with >>>>>> > on the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement, >>>>>> maybe >>>>>> > Janvier just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale >>>>>> > condemnation of his country in the global community of civil >>>>>> society. >>>>>> > But the email posted is there including terms and a rationale which >>>>>> are >>>>>> > unacceptable to us, and we needed to express our concern and >>>>>> register >>>>>> > our disapproval of such. We are not making claims as to how hard >>>>>> working >>>>>> > and committed ISOC Cameroon may or may not be toward facilitating >>>>>> > Internet access to all in Cameroon, in ordinary times. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Mawaki >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" >>>>> > > wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Dear Norbert, Mawaki, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i >>>>>> wonder if >>>>>> > anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it >>>>>> for >>>>>> > the first time on our website will be able to understand the >>>>>> > background. Just thinking outloud :) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if >>>>>> applicable. I >>>>>> > suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > We will then post it on our website and send it to the >>>>>> appropriate >>>>>> > persons, to follow the process as agreed here. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good >>>>>> sign >>>>>> > imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally >>>>>> > sent this letter. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Hope this is fine with you'all. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Thanks, >>>>>> > A >>>>>> > ----------------- >>>>>> > Arsène Tungali, >>>>>> > @arsenebaguma >>>>>> > +243 993810967 > >>>>>> > GPG: 523644A0 >>>>>> > Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow >>>>> > > wrote: >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Dear Arsène and all >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Please find our proposal at >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0up >>>>>> PKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit >>>>>> > >>>>> pPKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit> >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > I'm also including the text below. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Greetings, >>>>>> > > Norbert >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > -- draft starts -- >>>>>> > > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Dear Colleagues >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC, >>>>>> > http://igcaucus.org) >>>>>> > > is a global network of civil society actors who originally >>>>>> came >>>>>> > > together in the context of the World Summit on the >>>>>> Information Society >>>>>> > > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in >>>>>> Internet >>>>>> > > governance policy making. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not >>>>>> acceptable in >>>>>> > > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that >>>>>> such >>>>>> > > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves >>>>>> with ISOC to >>>>>> > > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet >>>>>> is for >>>>>> > > Everyone”. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > For further elaboration of the important principle of >>>>>> /Internet access >>>>>> > > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we >>>>>> refer to >>>>>> > > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms, >>>>>> > > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/ >>>>>> > . >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to >>>>>> respectfully >>>>>> > > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding >>>>>> strong stance >>>>>> > > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the >>>>>> country, and to >>>>>> > > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all >>>>>> earnestness. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to >>>>>> our >>>>>> > > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC >>>>>> Cameroon, >>>>>> > > President” and which expressed views that were not at all >>>>>> consistent >>>>>> > > with the above. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Best regards >>>>>> > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > -- draft ends -- >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200 >>>>>> > > Arsène Tungali >>>>> > > wrote: >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >> Dear Norbert, >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this >>>>>> task. I am >>>>>> > >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that >>>>>> everyone >>>>>> > >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC >>>>>> Global. >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow >>>>>> at least >>>>>> > >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent. >>>>>> Please do >>>>>> > >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but >>>>>> just >>>>>> > >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in >>>>>> the margins >>>>>> > >> of the doc). >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Regards, >>>>>> > >> A >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> ------------------------ >>>>>> > >> **Arsène Tungali** >>>>>> > >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >*, >>>>>> > >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, >>>>>> *Mabingwa >>>>>> > >> Forum * >>>>>> > >> Tel: +243 993810967 >>>>> <%2B243%20993810967>> >>>>>> > >> GPG: 523644A0 >>>>>> > >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>>>> ela-washington.html >>>>>> > >>>>> ela-washington.html>> >>>>>> > >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>>>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors- >>>>>> programme/Past-Ambassadors >>>>>> > >>>>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors- >>>>>> programme/Past-Ambassadors>> >>>>>> > >> & Mexico >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>>>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors >>>>>> > >>>>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>>) >>>>>> > >> - AFRISIG 2016 >>>>> 16/class-of-2016/ >>>>>> > > - >>>>>> > >> Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los >>>>>> Angeles >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > > & >>>>>> Marrakech >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>>>> s-2016-03-14-en >>>>>> > >>>>> s-2016-03-14-en>> >>>>>> > >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>>>> lowship-winners >>>>>> > >>>>> lowship-winners>>)* >>>>>> > >> - *IGFSA Member - The >>>>>> HuffingtonPost UK >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > > >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow >>>>> > >: >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> Dear Arsène and all >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report >>>>>> that Mawaki >>>>>> > >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal. >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki >>>>>> and I >>>>>> > >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC >>>>>> Cameroon. At >>>>>> > >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made >>>>>> clear in >>>>>> > >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global >>>>>> is >>>>>> > >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are >>>>>> volunteers who >>>>>> > >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of >>>>>> conduct as >>>>>> > >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we >>>>>> cannot >>>>>> > >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any >>>>>> Chapter >>>>>> > >>> official's position and put them in the position to be >>>>>> answerable >>>>>> > >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we >>>>>> address a >>>>>> > >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is >>>>>> already >>>>>> > >>> known. >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly >>>>>> focused, >>>>>> > >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which >>>>>> should >>>>>> > >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth >>>>>> debate in IGC. >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly. >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> Greetings, >>>>>> > >>> Norbert >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200 >>>>>> > >>> Arsène Tungali >>>>> > > wrote: >>>>>> > >>> >>>>>> > >>>> Dear colleagues, >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> Starting a new thread. >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern >>>>>> about >>>>>> > >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country >>>>>> added >>>>>> > >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced >>>>>> Internet >>>>>> > >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this >>>>>> more >>>>>> > >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly >>>>>> condem this >>>>>> > >>>> new form of oppression. >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed >>>>>> their >>>>>> > >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the >>>>>> shutdown in >>>>>> > >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon >>>>>> > >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on >>>>>> this, which >>>>>> > >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his >>>>>> other >>>>>> > >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his >>>>>> other >>>>>> > >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an >>>>>> appeal, >>>>>> > >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going >>>>>> on in >>>>>> > >>>> his country. >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>>> ?utm_content= >>>>>> > >>>>> ?utm_content=> >>>>>> > >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com >>>>>> > &utm_campaign=buffer> >>>>>> > >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other >>>>>> countries. >>>>>> > >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support >>>>>> > >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know). >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>>> as-seidler >>>>> rg/who-we-are/people/mr-nicolas-seidler>>, >>>>>> > >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following: >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing >>>>>> > >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon >>>>>> > >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future. >>>>>> We are >>>>>> > >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from >>>>>> Access and >>>>>> > >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media >>>>>> channels. >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this >>>>>> to say: >>>>>> > >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many >>>>>> other >>>>>> > >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters >>>>>> share the >>>>>> > >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not >>>>>> staff), >>>>>> > >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to >>>>>> direct them >>>>>> > >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort. >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal >>>>>> point of >>>>>> > >>>>> view from Mr. >>>>>> > >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is >>>>>> completely >>>>>> > >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is >>>>>> > >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In >>>>>> > >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible. >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding >>>>>> a >>>>>> > >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:* >>>>>> > >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to >>>>>> ISOC >>>>>> > >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public >>>>>> stance >>>>>> > >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert >>>>>> and >>>>>> > >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with >>>>>> us >>>>>> > >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)? >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning >>>>>> Internet >>>>>> > >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition >>>>>> because I >>>>>> > >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are >>>>>> taking (as >>>>>> > >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the >>>>>> expertise we >>>>>> > >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all >>>>>> networks >>>>>> > >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness >>>>>> about the >>>>>> > >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not >>>>>> actively >>>>>> > >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never >>>>>> experienced any >>>>>> > >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few >>>>>> volunteers >>>>>> > >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?* >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another >>>>>> > >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without >>>>>> > >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of >>>>>> 3 to >>>>>> > >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this >>>>>> list >>>>>> > >>>> within the next 48 hours. >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> Very best, >>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>> > >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>>> > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>>> > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>>> > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>>> > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ____________________________________________________________ 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On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Aida Noblia wrote: > I received > Regards > > 2017-02-03 5:08 GMT-03:00 Janvier NGNOULAYE : > >> Please confirm if you received this test mail ! >> Regards >> Janvier Ngnoulaye >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Aida Noblia > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From francois.ullmann at ingenieursdumonde.org Fri Feb 3 05:04:31 2017 From: francois.ullmann at ingenieursdumonde.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Ullmann) Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 11:04:31 +0100 Subject: [governance] test In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1486116271-0d437dae3f1afb39ccd9df6567a71c98@ingenieursdumonde.org> well received ----- Message d'origine ----- De: Edwin Byarugaba Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 13:02:07 +0300 Sujet: Re: [governance] test À: governance at lists.igcaucus.org, Aida Noblia Received! On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Aida Noblia wrote: I receivedRegards 2017-02-03 5:08 GMT-03:00 Janvier NGNOULAYE : Please confirm if you received this test mail !RegardsJanvier Ngnoulaye ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- Aida Noblia ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jnoulaye at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 05:49:36 2017 From: jnoulaye at gmail.com (Janvier NGNOULAYE) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 11:49:36 +0100 Subject: [governance] Serious Matters for ISOC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi to All, I just note that many people have deliberately chosen some words from my last 2 mails and focused their arguments on its, and finally come out with their declaration. But, It would have been fair to analyse the full content of the 2 mails, and not to be focused on some single words taken out of their context. Thank to Coko Tracy who pointed out a mistake of language I made when I said ​"You are no more human rights activist than we are ......" reather than to say : "You are not more human rights activist than we are...." Next time I'll write everything in French. I request every one to put on the table these two mails I sent and make a fair analyse sentence by sentence. My 1st mail was trying to describe what was happening on the ground,and at the end I suggested that the Chapter will work with the two partis to find out a better solution. The 2nd mail is in response to ​Arsène, Norbert and Mawaki where I come with the statement that they were not more human rights activist, or ​not more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter, for meaning that the Chapter is in line with the vision and mission of Internet Society on the ground. I found a partiality in their analysis and it is deplorable. For instance into my 2nd mail, I talked about sensitized and educated, for the better use of the Internet technologies and policies with the governement, and the local population. No one on this list points out this solution we raise and on which we are working now, to encourage or to advice us. Anyway, anyone is free to support or not any action we can make. Warm regards Janvier Ngnoulaye > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC > Cameroon Chapter? > Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 02:29:02 +0100 > From: Janvier NGNOULAYE > To: Internet Governance , Norbert Bollow < > nb at bollow.ch>, Arsène Tungali > CC: Dawit Bekele , dawit at isoc.org, Joyce Dogniez < > dogniez at isoc.org>, Dawit Bekele via Internet Society < > mail at connectedcommunity.org>, chapter-d >> Chapter Delegates < > Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> > > Dear > ​​ > Arsène, Norbert, Mawaki > > I appreciate your enthusiasm in your role. > ​​ > You are no more human rights > activist than we are, or even > ​​ > more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter. > > We volunteer each day to work to make the Internet as open and accessible > as possible to our local population. I do not need to show out here on this > platform the actions and projects achieved so far. So you must understand > that, we can not endorse a privation of the Internet to our population for > whom we promote the open access of the Internet. I regret that you have > misunderstand some words of my first mail on the matter. > > I would like to thank you for your concern on the case of Cameroon and > also thank you for the declarative solution approach you are currently > proposing. However, note that: > > 1) Cameroon is in a situation of war against Boko Haram, > 2) Cameroon is in a situation of war against the secessionists, who have > at one time erected their flag inside one part of the territory, no one > knows by who they are supported and financed. > 3) the current socio-political context is complex, and adding to that, > there is still a lack of knowledge for using Internet tools by a big part > of the population. > 4) facing all of that, the government has taken security measures in its > own way, some may be considered unfair, but it is wise for us to try to > seat with them, discuss and work for the better solution, because we think > that they need to be sensitized and educated about the better used of the > Internet technologies and policies. > 5) In a situation of conflict and crisis in a given country, there will be > no an universal solution as you tend to suggest from your respective > offices. > 6) I chaired the ISOC Cameroon General Annual Assembly on Saturday 28 > January 2017, this issue was addressed. Not need to expose its minutes to > you here. > > So If you really want to help, please check back your proposal. > > I wanted to appeal the Internet Community, those who made a phone call to > us to encourage us, and all the others of the community, to keep trusting > ISOC Cameroon Chapter, who is working hard on the field to solve the issue. > > Best regards. > > Janvier Ngnoulaye, Ph.D > ICT Teacher at the University > President of the ISOC Cameroon Chapter. > Activist of "The Internet is for everyone" > http://www.internetsociety.cm/ > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down the > Internet !!! > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:58:48 +0100 > From: Janvier NGNOULAYE > To: Internet Governance , Renata Aquino > Ribeiro > CC: Deji Bryce Olukotun , Arsène Tungali < > arsenebaguma at gmail.com>, Judith Hellerstein , < > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> > > Hi to all, > > It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very > much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the > problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. > > These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The > government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable > solutions. > > Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of > Internet access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of > the entire population of these 2 regions. > > Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending > this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the situation is not a disaster as > some seem to publish on the Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the > government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even > if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union > services. > > ISOC Cameroon Chapter > President > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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ICANN Fellow / Member, UN IGF MAG Member, ISOC Member, Freedom Online Coalition (FOC) Member, Diplo Foundation Member, OGP Open Data WG Member, GODAN Memember, ITAG Member Email: wisdom_dk at hotmail.com wisdom.donkor at data.gov.gh wisdom.dk at gmail.com Skype: wisdom_dk facebook: facebook at wisdom_dk Website: www.nita.gov.gh / www.data.gov.gh www.isoc.gh / www.itag.org.gh On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Janvier NGNOULAYE wrote: > Please confirm if you received this test mail ! > Regards > Janvier Ngnoulaye > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please note that. 1) ISOC Cameroon Chapter with all the members do not support any form of Internet shutdowns. 2) After the Annual General Assembly hold on 28 january 2017, the members of the Chapter condemned that action in Cameroon and took the resolution to engage in conversations with the government. We will keep you updated on the development undertaken. 3) ISOC Cameroon Chapter is in line with the statement that Internet Society published as a reference for such matters ( https://www.internetsociety.org/lets-keep-internet-everyone) Thank you for any support and advice to us on the ground. ------------------------------ Janvier Ngnoulaye, Ph.D ICT Teacher at the University President of the ISOC Cameroon Chapter. Activist of "The Internet is for everyone" http://www.internetsociety.cm/ ------------------------------​ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:53 AM, wrote: > Yes I did > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. > *From: *Janvier NGNOULAYE > *Sent: *Friday, 3 February 2017 04:08 > *To: *Internet Governance > *Reply To: *governance at lists.igcaucus.org > *Subject: *[governance] test > > Please confirm if you received this test mail ! > Regards > Janvier Ngnoulaye > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- *Akinremi Peter Taiwo* [ West Africa Coordinator ] Pan African Civil Society on Information Society (*ACSIS*) *Website: *www.acsis-scasi.org *E*xecutive Consultant. 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If Janvier Gnoulaye (PHD, IT teacher at the University) has any rebuttals, he can freely come out Urgent Request for UN Peacekeeping force in the former British Southern Cameroons Urgent Request for UN Peacekeeping force in the former British Southern Cameroons posted by Akene Jude February 3, 2017 Africa , News in English from Southern Cameroon , politics , West Cameroon , World UN Secretary General Part I: Background to the Crisis 1. Permit me to congratulate you on behalf of the people of the former British Southern Cameroons for your recent election to the post of Secretary General of the United Nations. I have the honor, as the external representative of the Consortium of civil society of the English speaking Cameroons, to write to you in order to brief you on the disturbing situation which is developing in the former British Southern Cameroons which are currently designated today as the “Northwest and Southwest Regions” of the Republic of Cameroon. It is because of the wider potential regional ramifications of what is happening that we believe that the United Nations should be informed on a timely basis so that it can take urgent action. NFOR N SUSUNG *Grievances of Common law lawyers* 2. The UN are certainly aware of the fact that disturbances were triggered by a strike by English speaking lawyers in Cameroon who have constituted themselves under a common group known as “Common Law Lawyers”. They have held long standing grievances against the government of President Paul Biya for appointing Francophone magistrates and lawyers who are practitioners of civil law, to preside over the entire judiciary in English speaking regions which have always operated on the basis of Common law, inherited from the United Kingdom dating back to the UN Trusteeship Agreement of 1946. The Common law lawyers have also objected to the imposition by the government in Yaoundé requiring that Common Law lawyers should submit their legal briefs to Francophone magistrates in French. This is the recipe for judicial chaos which sent the Common Law lawyers into the streets. *Grievances of Teachers Association* 3. The Common Law lawyers were joined in a sympathy strike by the teachers association in the Anglophone regions of Cameroon due to grievances arising from the fact that the government of President Paul Biya has been posting Francophone teachers with very low English language proficiency to Anglophone schools to teach English speaking Cameroonians. The impact of this has been to lower the quality of education in the former British Southern Cameroons. The teachers association went on an indefinite strike because they could no longer accept the idea that the educational system of the Anglophone regions should become controlled by members of President Paul Biya’s government who do not use English as a working language because the same chaos that has been engendered in the judicial system of the for British Southern Cameroons has expanded to the education sector as well. The Frenchification of Anglophones: 4. The steamrolling “Frenchification” of the former British Southern Cameroons with a total population of around 7 million which constitutes approximately 25-30 percent of Cameroon has been the long standing goal of President Paul Biya who himself speaks no English even though he has been the President of a country which is supposed to be bilingual for nearly 35 years. 5. Your Excellency, French is a beautiful language and French culture is extremely rich. Only those who have mastered the French language can fully appreciate the depth of French culture. The youth of the former British Southern Cameroons aspire to learn French as a second foreign language in order to have access to education in France as many of them have had in other EU countries like Germany. But the government of President Paul Biya has never made any effort to promote such exchanges between France and the former British Southern Cameroons. 6. But the people of the former British Southern Cameroons, otherwise known as Anglophones, believe that English is the passport into the modern world. That is why they no longer accept President Paul Biya’s idea of national unity based on “harmonization” which implies the eradication of all traces of English and Anglo-Saxon culture in order to ensure that Cameroon eventually becomes a 100 percent francophone country with French as the official language. By depriving them of an educational system based on the highest standards of English language usage the government of President Paul Biya is subjecting the children of the former British Southern Cameroons to collective marginalization. *The Teachers strike* 7. This is the background to the teacher’s strike which was triggered by the decision of President Paul Biya to post Francophone teachers with poor mastery of the English language to teach in English speaking schools and colleges in the former British Southern Cameroons. The unwillingness of the government of President Paul Biya to respond constructively to the grievances of the Anglophone lawyers and teachers is responsible for the progressive descent to violence and deaths on the streets of towns such as Bamenda and Kumba in the former British Southern Cameroons. I attach photos of the killings that took place in the town of Bamenda on 8 December 2016 when President Biya’s troops opened fire on unarmed youth who had to defend themselves with an improvised giant catapult. Consortium leaders demand a return to a two-state federation 8. The government initially showed a willingness to negotiate with leaders of the Cameroon Anglophone Civil Society Consortium made up of Barrister Felix Agbor Balla Nkongho, Dr. Fontem Neba and Mr. Wilfred Tassang and who held negotiating sessions with members of the government in order to find common ground that will lead to a resumption of schools throughout the former British Southern Cameroons. Members of the consortium insisted on return to a federal system of government which will enable the former British Southern Cameroons to reacquire its autonomy so as to be able to run its educational system and its judiciary as they existed prior to the reunification with French Cameroun in October 1961. However the government of Mr. Biya has completely rejected any idea about a federal system of government because it prefers to continue to govern under a totally centralized form of government which has led to the total marginalization of the Anglophone regions in all spheres of political life in Cameroon. *Banning of the Consortium and arrest of its leaders:* 9. In a surprising move the government of Mr. Biya placed a blanket ban on the Cameroon Anglophone Civil Society Consortium and proceeded to arrest Barrister Felix Agbor Balla Nkongho and Dr. Fontem Neba who were leading the negotiations with the government. Meanwhile Wilfred Tassang was forced to seek refuge in a foreign embassy in Yaounde. Also arrested was Justice Ayah Paul Abine who sits on the Supreme Court of Cameroon and whose only crime is that he is the lone Anglophone on this judicial organ. This arrest of a Supreme Court judge was done by unidentified individuals without a warrant of arrest and with wanton disregard for any idea of due process of the law. This arrest is adequate proof that Cameroon has descended into legal chaos under President Paul Biya. Switching off of internet facilities in the Anglophone region: 10. President Paul Biya further proceeded to selectively switch off internet infrastructure in the Anglophone regions of Cameroon in order to prevent the distribution of the images of the carnage and brutality which his military forces are currently perpetrating in the Anglophone regions of Cameroon. I attach a document which provides proof of the decision taken at the highest level of state to switch off the internet in what the government described as “regions sensibles”. It is quite clear that following the massive deployment of the armed forces all over the Anglophone regions, the government wants to grant itself the unlimited license to commit war crimes without being held accountable for them. It should be recalled that following the attempted coup d’etat of 1984, the government of President Biya engaged in an orgy of killing of soldiers and civilians from the Northern region of Cameroon and many are buried in mass graves around the town of Mbalmayo south of Yaoundé. Based on its past record, we believe that the government of Mr. Biya is capable of anything in the Anglophone regions under the cover of the internet blackout. *Crimes against Humanity* 11. Your Excellency, la République du Cameroun which has been run as a personal fiefdom by President Paul Biya for 35 years, is not a state party to the International Criminal Court. However the regime is committing acts against the English speaking minority of the British Southern Cameroons which are tantamount to crimes against humanity for which it must be held accountable before the International Criminal Court. 12. Article 7 (1) (h) of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court lists among “Crimes Against Humanity” : « Persecution against any identifiable group or collectivity on political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, gender as defined in paragraph 3, or other grounds that are universally recognized as impermissible under international law, in connection with any act referred to in this paragraph or any crime within the jurisdiction of the Court » 13. In the specific case of a non state party like La République du Cameroun, the jurisdiction of the court can be exercised under Article 13 of the statute by which : « The Court may exercise its jurisdiction with respect to a crime referred to in article 5 in accordance with the provisions of this Statute if a situation in which one or more of such crimes appears to have been committed is referred to the Prosecutor by the Security Council acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations. 14. The people of the Southern Cameroons believe that the decision of the regime of President Paul Biya to selectively place the Southern Cameroons under an internet blackout is a crime against humanity because it constitutes persecution consistent with article 7(1)(h) of the Rome statute. This decision is clearly in violation of the United Nations resolution A/HRC/32/L.20 which declared that “online freedom” is a “human right,” and one that must be protected. But this decision raises greater concerns because its avowed intention is to give the regime of President Paul Biya the license and the freedom to commit other crimes against the citizens of the Southern Cameroons under the cover of the internet blackout. Given the fact that the Conseil National de Communication under the Chairman Peter Essoka has been shutting down media houses that have given coverage in the national media to the attrocities that the armed forces of the Biya regime have been committing in the Southern Cameroons, it is abundantly clear that the regime is searching for a total media blackout over the Southern Cameroons. The question is why ? 15. Your Excellency, the prospects for the resumption of classes in the former British Southern Cameroons are bleak because the streets are now occupied by the BIR (Brigade d’Intervention Rapide), which is used primarily to intervene in the case of attacks by armed terrorists. The demonstrators and protestors in the streets have been angry unarmed students who cannot accept the use of live ammunition being fired by the police, the gendarmes and the BIR sent from other towns with instructions to use deadly force against unarmed students. The attached photos are ample testimony of what is happening on the streets of the major towns of the former British Southern Cameroons. Separation not secession 16. The people of the former British Southern Cameroons have come to the conclusion that the only permanent solution to the Anglophone problem in Cameroon, particularly in respect to the protection of their educational system and the integrity of their judicial system, is total separation from French Cameroun in like manner to the separation that took place between Czechs and the Slovaks in Czechoslovakia in January 1993. There is a fundamental incompatibility between the French and the British way of thinking which has made it impossible for a highly educated Anglophone minority of 25-30 percent to find a proper place for itself in a country which is dominated by the Francophones. The differences between Common Law which is practised in the British Southern Cameroons and Civil law which is practised in French Cameroun are so profound that it is impossible for the two legal systems to coexist in country where political power has been centralized as it is in Cameroon under a unitary state. 17. In 1964 when Zanzibar and Tanganyika came together to form the United Republic of Tanzania, there was a signed union treaty and the instruments of ratification were adopted by the parliament of Tanganyika and Zanzibar making the union legal under international law and the said instruments were addressed to the UN Secretariat in accordance with article 102 of the UN Charter. That is why in the case of Tanzania if Zanzibar wants to leave that union, it can be called “secession”. 18. The case of Cameroon is different because in 1961, the incompetent people involved never thought of signing a formal union treaty and sending the instruments of ratification to the UN Secretariat. That means that for 55 years we have merely engaged in an informal cohabitation. Consequently the decision of the Southern Cameroons to become independent can be termed “separation” but not “secession”: 19. This distinction is important because the regime of Paul Biya is treating the people of the Southern Cameroons as secessionists. We trust that the UN secretariat will confirm from its archives that no union treaty has ever been sent to the UN Secretariat as proof that a legal union had taken place between the Southern Cameroons and the Cameroun Republic in 1961. 20. Your Excellency, as things stand at the moment it is impossible for parents to send their children back to school because trust between the armed battalions that have been sent by President Paul Biya and the population of the former British Southern Cameroons has completely collapsed. But the most disturbing development is the fact that there is increasing suspicion that the government has a secret plan to instrumentalise generalized conflict between Anglophones and Francophones who have settled amongst each other in large numbers over many years all over the country. There is reason to believe that the government would like to instigate attacks against Francophones in the former British Southern Cameroons in order to use it as a pretext to launch a much wider crackdown which could take on the proportions of ethnic cleansing and genocide such as what happened in 1984 when President Paul Biya sent his troops on a punitive mission to eliminate over 1500 northerners in Mbalmayo who have never been accounted for following the abortive coup attempt of 1984. If such a diabolical plan is allowed to materialize, the consequences would be catastrophic for the whole of Cameroon and for the entire sub region. Whatever happens in the British Southern Cameroons in the coming months shall be the result of instructions given by President Paul Biya to his army. by NFOR N SUSUNG __._,_.___ ------------------------------ Posted by: Francis Njung ------------------------------ Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1) ------------------------------ Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. ------------------------------ <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cameroon_politics/ Visit Your Group - New Members 2 [image: Yahoo! 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 06:19:35 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 12:19:35 +0100 Subject: [governance] Serious Matters for ISOC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all Can some one tell Janvier to tell us (even in french) what he means by "War against secessionists" Olivier who claims "not to be taking sides" too fail to raise this all important issue raised by Janvier Gnoulaye (IT Teacher in the University!!!) Can ISOC allow chapter leaders to run their mouths and walk away cheaply? This "war against secessionists" thing is givng me sleepless nights here in Douala Olivier, quand est ce que la guerre contre les sécessionistes a commencé. Qui commande les troupes gouvernemantaux au front et qui est le Shekau du coté des sécessionistes Agien Nyangkwe On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Janvier NGNOULAYE wrote: > Hi to All, > I just note that many people have deliberately chosen some words from my > last 2 mails and focused their arguments on its, and finally come out with > their declaration. > But, It would have been fair to analyse the full content of the 2 mails, > and not to be focused on some single words taken out of their context. > Thank to Coko Tracy who pointed out a mistake of language I made when I > said ​"You are no more human rights activist than we are ......" reather > than to say : "You are not more human rights activist than we are...." > Next time I'll write everything in French. > > I request every one to put on the table these two mails I sent and make a > fair analyse sentence by sentence. > My 1st mail was trying to describe what was happening on the ground,and at > the end I suggested that the Chapter will work with the two partis to find > out a better solution. > The 2nd mail is in response to ​Arsène, Norbert and Mawaki where I come > with the statement that they were not more human rights activist, or ​not > more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter, for > meaning that the Chapter is in line with the vision and mission of > Internet Society on the ground. I found a partiality in their analysis and > it is deplorable. For instance into my 2nd mail, I talked about sensitized > and educated, for the better use of the Internet technologies and policies > with the governement, and the local population. No one on this list points > out this solution we raise and on which we are working now, to encourage > or to advice us. > Anyway, anyone is free to support or not any action we can make. > > Warm regards > Janvier Ngnoulaye > > > > > >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC >> Cameroon Chapter? >> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 02:29:02 +0100 >> From: Janvier NGNOULAYE >> To: Internet Governance , Norbert Bollow < >> nb at bollow.ch>, Arsène Tungali >> CC: Dawit Bekele , dawit at isoc.org, Joyce Dogniez < >> dogniez at isoc.org>, Dawit Bekele via Internet Society < >> mail at connectedcommunity.org>, chapter-d >> Chapter Delegates < >> Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> >> >> Dear >> ​​ >> Arsène, Norbert, Mawaki >> >> I appreciate your enthusiasm in your role. >> ​​ >> You are no more human rights >> activist than we are, or even >> ​​ >> more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter. >> >> We volunteer each day to work to make the Internet as open and >> accessible as possible to our local population. I do not need to show out >> here on this platform the actions and projects achieved so far. So you >> must understand that, we can not endorse a privation of the Internet to our >> population for whom we promote the open access of the Internet. I regret >> that you have misunderstand some words of my first mail on the matter. >> >> I would like to thank you for your concern on the case of Cameroon and >> also thank you for the declarative solution approach you are currently >> proposing. However, note that: >> >> 1) Cameroon is in a situation of war against Boko Haram, >> 2) Cameroon is in a situation of war against the secessionists, who have >> at one time erected their flag inside one part of the territory, no one >> knows by who they are supported and financed. >> 3) the current socio-political context is complex, and adding to that, >> there is still a lack of knowledge for using Internet tools by a big part >> of the population. >> 4) facing all of that, the government has taken security measures in its >> own way, some may be considered unfair, but it is wise for us to try to >> seat with them, discuss and work for the better solution, because we >> think that they need to be sensitized and educated about the better used of >> the Internet technologies and policies. >> 5) In a situation of conflict and crisis in a given country, there will >> be no an universal solution as you tend to suggest from your respective >> offices. >> 6) I chaired the ISOC Cameroon General Annual Assembly on Saturday 28 >> January 2017, this issue was addressed. Not need to expose its minutes to >> you here. >> >> So If you really want to help, please check back your proposal. >> >> I wanted to appeal the Internet Community, those who made a phone call to >> us to encourage us, and all the others of the community, to keep trusting >> ISOC Cameroon Chapter, who is working hard on the field to solve the issue. >> >> Best regards. >> >> Janvier Ngnoulaye, Ph.D >> ICT Teacher at the University >> President of the ISOC Cameroon Chapter. >> Activist of "The Internet is for everyone" >> http://www.internetsociety.cm/ >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down >> the Internet !!! >> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:58:48 +0100 >> From: Janvier NGNOULAYE >> To: Internet Governance , Renata Aquino >> Ribeiro >> CC: Deji Bryce Olukotun , Arsène Tungali < >> arsenebaguma at gmail.com>, Judith Hellerstein , < >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> >> >> Hi to all, >> >> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very >> much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the >> problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. >> >> These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The >> government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable >> solutions. >> >> Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of >> Internet access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of >> the entire population of these 2 regions. >> >> Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending >> this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the situation is not a disaster as >> some seem to publish on the Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the >> government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even >> if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union >> services. >> >> ISOC Cameroon Chapter >> President >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 <6%2073%2042%2071%2027> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 06:22:27 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 13:22:27 +0200 Subject: [governance] Serious Matters for ISOC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Janvier, Thanks for your third email, trying to clarify the two previous ones. Actually, you don't need to justify yourself because when words are out, there is no way to take them back, especially in this context where they were written words which are kept in our archives. And trust me, i understand the language challenges you are facing, myself being a native French speaker. Sometimes, we are not able to fully express our minds in a different language :) I do salute the amazing work ISOC Cameroon is doing under your leadesrhip since 2011 and most importantly the fact that you are in line with the vision and mission of ISOC global under which (i believe) the Chapter is operating (even if you are a registered not for profit in Cameroon). Especially the actions you are planning to implement in this particular situation with regards to the shutdown. And please do not forget to include (i know you have done these already) capacity building programs on issues such as digital rights targetting all stakeholders, as suggested on this list. The over all discussion was based, in my humble opinion, on the fact that in your 1st email you sounded like someone who is trying by all means to tell this community that what's happening in Cameroon is not a terrible situation, only because it is just two regions out of 10 which are offline and that should not be considered as a disaster. And we should not speak up about that. Worse thing you signed your email as "ISOC Cameroon President", meaning you are speaking with that hat and in response to a call for support from another ISOC Cameroon member (i believe). And everyone (most of us here) was in agreement that this was a terrible declaration because universal principles, especially in the context of civil society in the Internet governance sphere, state that even one person should not be left behind. And when it is just two regions, if we don't speak up, next might be 3 or the whole country being turned offline, which is what happened in so many other countries including the DRC (where i come from). That's why we, as a group, decided to make an official statement on this and I am glad, as a result, you came back and explained that we misunderstood you. As a Cameroonian and an activist of open Internet (with a lot of experience), you should, in fact, consider this debate as a plus because now so many people are aware about what's going on in the country and how vulnerable the people affacted are. And whenever there is such a global awareness, we can expect good results in the future. And finally, you didn't have to say that we (Mawaki, Norbert and myself) are not more human rights activists than you are. This is simply rude and was out of context. We all fight the same battle and there is no need to say this to anyone who is only trying to help your country fellows and your country to benefit from an open Internet. I hope this debate will end here because it is no longer about you personally, dear Janvier, but about what we all fight for. I personally do wish the best to you and the people of Cameroon (where we have a lot of friends and colleagues) especially these regions which are facing social tensions and instability. Best regards, Arsene, IGC Coordinator ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-02-03 12:49 GMT+02:00 Janvier NGNOULAYE : > Hi to All, > I just note that many people have deliberately chosen some words from my > last 2 mails and focused their arguments on its, and finally come out with > their declaration. > But, It would have been fair to analyse the full content of the 2 mails, > and not to be focused on some single words taken out of their context. > Thank to Coko Tracy who pointed out a mistake of language I made when I > said ​"You are no more human rights activist than we are ......" reather > than to say : "You are not more human rights activist than we are...." > Next time I'll write everything in French. > > I request every one to put on the table these two mails I sent and make a > fair analyse sentence by sentence. > My 1st mail was trying to describe what was happening on the ground,and at > the end I suggested that the Chapter will work with the two partis to find > out a better solution. > The 2nd mail is in response to ​Arsène, Norbert and Mawaki where I come > with the statement that they were not more human rights activist, or ​not > more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter, for > meaning that the Chapter is in line with the vision and mission of > Internet Society on the ground. I found a partiality in their analysis and > it is deplorable. For instance into my 2nd mail, I talked about sensitized > and educated, for the better use of the Internet technologies and policies > with the governement, and the local population. No one on this list points > out this solution we raise and on which we are working now, to encourage > or to advice us. > Anyway, anyone is free to support or not any action we can make. > > Warm regards > Janvier Ngnoulaye > > > > > >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC >> Cameroon Chapter? >> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 02:29:02 +0100 >> From: Janvier NGNOULAYE >> To: Internet Governance , Norbert Bollow < >> nb at bollow.ch>, Arsène Tungali >> CC: Dawit Bekele , dawit at isoc.org, Joyce Dogniez < >> dogniez at isoc.org>, Dawit Bekele via Internet Society < >> mail at connectedcommunity.org>, chapter-d >> Chapter Delegates < >> Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> >> >> Dear >> ​​ >> Arsène, Norbert, Mawaki >> >> I appreciate your enthusiasm in your role. >> ​​ >> You are no more human rights >> activist than we are, or even >> ​​ >> more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter. >> >> We volunteer each day to work to make the Internet as open and >> accessible as possible to our local population. I do not need to show out >> here on this platform the actions and projects achieved so far. So you >> must understand that, we can not endorse a privation of the Internet to our >> population for whom we promote the open access of the Internet. I regret >> that you have misunderstand some words of my first mail on the matter. >> >> I would like to thank you for your concern on the case of Cameroon and >> also thank you for the declarative solution approach you are currently >> proposing. However, note that: >> >> 1) Cameroon is in a situation of war against Boko Haram, >> 2) Cameroon is in a situation of war against the secessionists, who have >> at one time erected their flag inside one part of the territory, no one >> knows by who they are supported and financed. >> 3) the current socio-political context is complex, and adding to that, >> there is still a lack of knowledge for using Internet tools by a big part >> of the population. >> 4) facing all of that, the government has taken security measures in its >> own way, some may be considered unfair, but it is wise for us to try to >> seat with them, discuss and work for the better solution, because we >> think that they need to be sensitized and educated about the better used of >> the Internet technologies and policies. >> 5) In a situation of conflict and crisis in a given country, there will >> be no an universal solution as you tend to suggest from your respective >> offices. >> 6) I chaired the ISOC Cameroon General Annual Assembly on Saturday 28 >> January 2017, this issue was addressed. Not need to expose its minutes to >> you here. >> >> So If you really want to help, please check back your proposal. >> >> I wanted to appeal the Internet Community, those who made a phone call to >> us to encourage us, and all the others of the community, to keep trusting >> ISOC Cameroon Chapter, who is working hard on the field to solve the issue. >> >> Best regards. >> >> Janvier Ngnoulaye, Ph.D >> ICT Teacher at the University >> President of the ISOC Cameroon Chapter. >> Activist of "The Internet is for everyone" >> http://www.internetsociety.cm/ >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down >> the Internet !!! >> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:58:48 +0100 >> From: Janvier NGNOULAYE >> To: Internet Governance , Renata Aquino >> Ribeiro >> CC: Deji Bryce Olukotun , Arsène Tungali < >> arsenebaguma at gmail.com>, Judith Hellerstein , < >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> >> >> Hi to all, >> >> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very >> much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the >> problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. >> >> These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The >> government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable >> solutions. >> >> Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of >> Internet access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of >> the entire population of these 2 regions. >> >> Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending >> this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the situation is not a disaster as >> some seem to publish on the Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the >> government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even >> if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union >> services. >> >> ISOC Cameroon Chapter >> President >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 06:31:20 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 12:31:20 +0100 Subject: [governance] Statement and clarifications of ISOC Cameroon on the Internet shutdowns in Cameroon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Janvier You are now talking. At last!!! Agien Nyangkwe On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Janvier NGNOULAYE wrote: > ​Dear Internet member Community, > Many misundertanding have been circulated throught lot of mailing lists > about the Internet shutdowns in Cameroon. > Please note that. > 1) ISOC Cameroon Chapter with all the members do not support any form of > Internet shutdowns. > 2) After the Annual General Assembly hold on 28 january 2017, the members > of the Chapter condemned that action in Cameroon and took the resolution to > engage in conversations with the government. We will keep you updated on > the development undertaken. > 3) ISOC Cameroon Chapter is in line with the statement that Internet > Society published as a reference for such matters ( > https://www.internetsociety.org/lets-keep-internet-everyone) > Thank you for any support and advice to us on the ground. > > ------------------------------ > Janvier Ngnoulaye, Ph.D > ICT Teacher at the University > President of the ISOC Cameroon Chapter. > Activist of "The Internet is for everyone" > http://www.internetsociety.cm/ > ------------------------------​ > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You really helped us understand more the situation by giving and sharing a lot of background info. >From now on, may I request you to please stop naming Mr Janvier or anyone else when you make statements? It is not a battle between us and anyone. This is for the sake of finding peace in the group, especially now that we have more and more work to do with regards to the IGC and its future. May I also request you to no longer post any news link to the list which has nothing to do with Internet governance, to avoid sending a lot of emails into our member's mailboxes? We need to keep this list to what it is intended to and be able to keep our members as active as we can. I hope this makes sense. Best regards, Arsene, IGC Coordinator ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-02-03 13:18 GMT+02:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron : > Hi all > > Read this to know what is happening in Cameroon. > > If Janvier Gnoulaye (PHD, IT teacher at the University) has any rebuttals, > he can freely come out > > Urgent Request for UN Peacekeeping force in the former British Southern > Cameroons > > > > > > > Urgent Request for UN Peacekeeping force in the former British Southern > Cameroons > posted by Akene Jude February > 3, 2017 Africa , News in English > from Southern Cameroon > , politics > , West Cameroon > , World > > UN Secretary General > Part I: Background to the Crisis > 1. Permit me to congratulate you on behalf of the people of the former > British Southern Cameroons for your recent election to the post of > Secretary General of the United Nations. I have the honor, as the external > representative of the Consortium of civil society of the English speaking > Cameroons, to write to you in order to brief you on the disturbing > situation which is developing in the former British Southern Cameroons > which are currently designated today as the “Northwest and Southwest > Regions” of the Republic of Cameroon. It is because of the wider potential > regional ramifications of what is happening that we believe that the United > Nations should be informed on a timely basis so that it can take urgent > action. > > NFOR N SUSUNG > *Grievances of Common law lawyers* > 2. The UN are certainly aware of the fact that disturbances were triggered > by a strike by English speaking lawyers in Cameroon who have constituted > themselves under a common group known as “Common Law Lawyers”. They have > held long standing grievances against the government of President Paul Biya > for appointing Francophone magistrates and lawyers who are practitioners of > civil law, to preside over the entire judiciary in English speaking regions > which have always operated on the basis of Common law, inherited from the > United Kingdom dating back to the UN Trusteeship Agreement of 1946. The > Common law lawyers have also objected to the imposition by the government > in Yaoundé requiring that Common Law lawyers should submit their legal > briefs to Francophone magistrates in French. This is the recipe for > judicial chaos which sent the Common Law lawyers into the streets. > *Grievances of Teachers Association* > 3. The Common Law lawyers were joined in a sympathy strike by the teachers > association in the Anglophone regions of Cameroon due to grievances arising > from the fact that the government of President Paul Biya has been posting > Francophone teachers with very low English language proficiency to > Anglophone schools to teach English speaking Cameroonians. The impact of > this has been to lower the quality of education in the former British > Southern Cameroons. The teachers association went on an indefinite strike > because they could no longer accept the idea that the educational system of > the Anglophone regions should become controlled by members of President > Paul Biya’s government who do not use English as a working language because > the same chaos that has been engendered in the judicial system of the for > British Southern Cameroons has expanded to the education sector as well. > The Frenchification of Anglophones: > 4. The steamrolling “Frenchification” of the former British Southern > Cameroons with a total population of around 7 million which constitutes > approximately 25-30 percent of Cameroon has been the long standing goal of > President Paul Biya who himself speaks no English even though he has been > the President of a country which is supposed to be bilingual for nearly 35 > years. > 5. Your Excellency, French is a beautiful language and French culture is > extremely rich. Only those who have mastered the French language can fully > appreciate the depth of French culture. The youth of the former British > Southern Cameroons aspire to learn French as a second foreign language in > order to have access to education in France as many of them have had in > other EU countries like Germany. But the government of President Paul Biya > has never made any effort to promote such exchanges between France and the > former British Southern Cameroons. > 6. But the people of the former British Southern Cameroons, otherwise > known as Anglophones, believe that English is the passport into the modern > world. That is why they no longer accept President Paul Biya’s idea of > national unity based on “harmonization” which implies the eradication of > all traces of English and Anglo-Saxon culture in order to ensure that > Cameroon eventually becomes a 100 percent francophone country with French > as the official language. By depriving them of an educational system based > on the highest standards of English language usage the government of > President Paul Biya is subjecting the children of the former British > Southern Cameroons to collective marginalization. > *The Teachers strike* > 7. This is the background to the teacher’s strike which was triggered by > the decision of President Paul Biya to post Francophone teachers with poor > mastery of the English language to teach in English speaking schools and > colleges in the former British Southern Cameroons. The unwillingness of the > government of President Paul Biya to respond constructively to the > grievances of the Anglophone lawyers and teachers is responsible for the > progressive descent to violence and deaths on the streets of towns such as > Bamenda and Kumba in the former British Southern Cameroons. I attach photos > of the killings that took place in the town of Bamenda on 8 December 2016 > when President Biya’s troops opened fire on unarmed youth who had to defend > themselves with an improvised giant catapult. > Consortium leaders demand a return to a two-state federation > 8. The government initially showed a willingness to negotiate with leaders > of the Cameroon Anglophone Civil Society Consortium made up of Barrister > Felix Agbor Balla Nkongho, Dr. Fontem Neba and Mr. Wilfred Tassang and who > held negotiating sessions with members of the government in order to find > common ground that will lead to a resumption of schools throughout the > former British Southern Cameroons. Members of the consortium insisted on > return to a federal system of government which will enable the former > British Southern Cameroons to reacquire its autonomy so as to be able to > run its educational system and its judiciary as they existed prior to the > reunification with French Cameroun in October 1961. However the government > of Mr. Biya has completely rejected any idea about a federal system of > government because it prefers to continue to govern under a totally > centralized form of government which has led to the total marginalization > of the Anglophone regions in all spheres of political life in Cameroon. > *Banning of the Consortium and arrest of its leaders:* > 9. In a surprising move the government of Mr. Biya placed a blanket ban on > the Cameroon Anglophone Civil Society Consortium and proceeded to arrest > Barrister Felix Agbor Balla Nkongho and Dr. Fontem Neba who were leading > the negotiations with the government. Meanwhile Wilfred Tassang was forced > to seek refuge in a foreign embassy in Yaounde. Also arrested was Justice > Ayah Paul Abine who sits on the Supreme Court of Cameroon and whose only > crime is that he is the lone Anglophone on this judicial organ. This arrest > of a Supreme Court judge was done by unidentified individuals without a > warrant of arrest and with wanton disregard for any idea of due process of > the law. This arrest is adequate proof that Cameroon has descended into > legal chaos under President Paul Biya. > Switching off of internet facilities in the Anglophone region: > 10. President Paul Biya further proceeded to selectively switch off > internet infrastructure in the Anglophone regions of Cameroon in order to > prevent the distribution of the images of the carnage and brutality which > his military forces are currently perpetrating in the Anglophone regions of > Cameroon. I attach a document which provides proof of the decision taken at > the highest level of state to switch off the internet in what the > government described as “regions sensibles”. It is quite clear that > following the massive deployment of the armed forces all over the > Anglophone regions, the government wants to grant itself the unlimited > license to commit war crimes without being held accountable for them. It > should be recalled that following the attempted coup d’etat of 1984, the > government of President Biya engaged in an orgy of killing of soldiers and > civilians from the Northern region of Cameroon and many are buried in mass > graves around the town of Mbalmayo south of Yaoundé. Based on its past > record, we believe that the government of Mr. Biya is capable of anything > in the Anglophone regions under the cover of the internet blackout. > *Crimes against Humanity* > 11. Your Excellency, la République du Cameroun which has been run as a > personal fiefdom by President Paul Biya for 35 years, is not a state party > to the International Criminal Court. However the regime is committing acts > against the English speaking minority of the British Southern Cameroons > which are tantamount to crimes against humanity for which it must be held > accountable before the International Criminal Court. > 12. Article 7 (1) (h) of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal > Court lists among “Crimes Against Humanity” : « Persecution against any > identifiable group or collectivity on political, racial, national, ethnic, > cultural, religious, gender as defined in paragraph 3, or other grounds > that are universally recognized as impermissible under international law, > in connection with any act referred to in this paragraph or any crime > within the jurisdiction of the Court » > 13. In the specific case of a non state party like La République du > Cameroun, the jurisdiction of the court can be exercised under Article 13 > of the statute by which : « The Court may exercise its jurisdiction with > respect to a crime referred to in article 5 in accordance with the > provisions of this Statute if a situation in which one or more of such > crimes appears to have been committed is referred to the Prosecutor by the > Security Council acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United > Nations. > 14. The people of the Southern Cameroons believe that the decision of the > regime of President Paul Biya to selectively place the Southern Cameroons > under an internet blackout is a crime against humanity because it > constitutes persecution consistent with article 7(1)(h) of the Rome > statute. This decision is clearly in violation of the United Nations > resolution A/HRC/32/L.20 which declared that “online freedom” is a “human > right,” and one that must be protected. But this decision raises greater > concerns because its avowed intention is to give the regime of President > Paul Biya the license and the freedom to commit other crimes against the > citizens of the Southern Cameroons under the cover of the internet > blackout. Given the fact that the Conseil National de Communication under > the Chairman Peter Essoka has been shutting down media houses that have > given coverage in the national media to the attrocities that the armed > forces of the Biya regime have been committing in the Southern Cameroons, > it is abundantly clear that the regime is searching for a total media > blackout over the Southern Cameroons. The question is why ? > 15. Your Excellency, the prospects for the resumption of classes in the > former British Southern Cameroons are bleak because the streets are now > occupied by the BIR (Brigade d’Intervention Rapide), which is used > primarily to intervene in the case of attacks by armed terrorists. The > demonstrators and protestors in the streets have been angry unarmed > students who cannot accept the use of live ammunition being fired by the > police, the gendarmes and the BIR sent from other towns with instructions > to use deadly force against unarmed students. The attached photos are ample > testimony of what is happening on the streets of the major towns of the > former British Southern Cameroons. > Separation not secession > 16. The people of the former British Southern Cameroons have come to the > conclusion that the only permanent solution to the Anglophone problem in > Cameroon, particularly in respect to the protection of their educational > system and the integrity of their judicial system, is total separation from > French Cameroun in like manner to the separation that took place between > Czechs and the Slovaks in Czechoslovakia in January 1993. There is a > fundamental incompatibility between the French and the British way of > thinking which has made it impossible for a highly educated Anglophone > minority of 25-30 percent to find a proper place for itself in a country > which is dominated by the Francophones. The differences between Common Law > which is practised in the British Southern Cameroons and Civil law which is > practised in French Cameroun are so profound that it is impossible for the > two legal systems to coexist in country where political power has been > centralized as it is in Cameroon under a unitary state. > 17. In 1964 when Zanzibar and Tanganyika came together to form the United > Republic of Tanzania, there was a signed union treaty and the instruments > of ratification were adopted by the parliament of Tanganyika and Zanzibar > making the union legal under international law and the said instruments > were addressed to the UN Secretariat in accordance with article 102 of the > UN Charter. That is why in the case of Tanzania if Zanzibar wants to leave > that union, it can be called “secession”. > 18. The case of Cameroon is different because in 1961, the incompetent > people involved never thought of signing a formal union treaty and sending > the instruments of ratification to the UN Secretariat. That means that for > 55 years we have merely engaged in an informal cohabitation. Consequently > the decision of the Southern Cameroons to become independent can be termed > “separation” but not “secession”: > 19. This distinction is important because the regime of Paul Biya is > treating the people of the Southern Cameroons as secessionists. We trust > that the UN secretariat will confirm from its archives that no union treaty > has ever been sent to the UN Secretariat as proof that a legal union had > taken place between the Southern Cameroons and the Cameroun Republic in > 1961. > 20. Your Excellency, as things stand at the moment it is impossible for > parents to send their children back to school because trust between the > armed battalions that have been sent by President Paul Biya and the > population of the former British Southern Cameroons has completely > collapsed. But the most disturbing development is the fact that there is > increasing suspicion that the government has a secret plan to > instrumentalise generalized conflict between Anglophones and Francophones > who have settled amongst each other in large numbers over many years all > over the country. There is reason to believe that the government would like > to instigate attacks against Francophones in the former British Southern > Cameroons in order to use it as a pretext to launch a much wider crackdown > which could take on the proportions of ethnic cleansing and genocide such > as what happened in 1984 when President Paul Biya sent his troops on a > punitive mission to eliminate over 1500 northerners in Mbalmayo who have > never been accounted for following the abortive coup attempt of 1984. If > such a diabolical plan is allowed to materialize, the consequences would be > catastrophic for the whole of Cameroon and for the entire sub region. > Whatever happens in the British Southern Cameroons in the coming months > shall be the result of instructions given by President Paul Biya to his > army. > > by NFOR N SUSUNG > > __._,_.___ > ------------------------------ > Posted by: Francis Njung > ------------------------------ > Reply via web post > > • Reply to sender > > • Reply to group > > • Start a New Topic > > • Messages in this topic > > (1) > ------------------------------ > Have you tried the highest rated email app? > With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email > app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your > inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. 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It is more a question of the content in the emails. Agien Nyangkwe helped us to understand the concrete implementation of our principles for an open and free Internet. And without his emails we would be unable to understand the backgrounds. Therefore, please, never start to block the free flow of information as a base for our discussion. We don't know, what is important for us as so high different and diverse persons, living in high diverse environments. The core principles are common. But never the implementation. Our friends should be able to decide itself, what is important for them. many greetings, willi Asuncion, Paraguay On 03/02/2017 08:43, Arsène Tungali wrote: > Dear Aaron, > > I do appreciate your concern and the amazing work you have been doing > especially with regards to the current situation happening in Cameroon. You > really helped us understand more the situation by giving and sharing a lot > of background info. > >>From now on, may I request you to please stop naming Mr Janvier or anyone > else when you make statements? It is not a battle between us and anyone. > This is for the sake of finding peace in the group, especially now that we > have more and more work to do with regards to the IGC and its future. > > May I also request you to no longer post any news link to the list which > has nothing to do with Internet governance, to avoid sending a lot of > emails into our member's mailboxes? 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Best regards, Raúl El 3 feb. 2017, a las 12:56, Janvier NGNOULAYE > escribió: ​Dear Internet member Community, Many misundertanding have been circulated throught lot of mailing lists about the Internet shutdowns in Cameroon. Please note that. 1) ISOC Cameroon Chapter with all the members do not support any form of Internet shutdowns. 2) After the Annual General Assembly hold on 28 january 2017, the members of the Chapter condemned that action in Cameroon and took the resolution to engage in conversations with the government. We will keep you updated on the development undertaken. 3) ISOC Cameroon Chapter is in line with the statement that Internet Society published as a reference for such matters (https://www.internetsociety.org/lets-keep-internet-everyone) Thank you for any support and advice to us on the ground. ------------------------------ Janvier Ngnoulaye, Ph.D ICT Teacher at the University President of the ISOC Cameroon Chapter. 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Divina Frau-Meigs, Professeur Sorbonne Nouvelle Présidente défi 8, Agence Nationale de la Recherche Chaire UNESCO "savoir devenir à l'ère du développement numérique durable" Porteur projet ANR TRANSLIT, projets Européens ECO (CIP), ECFOLI (Erasmus+), ONU radicalisation et médias sociaux             > Message du 03/02/17 12:07 > De : "Louis Pouzin (well)" > A : "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , "Janvier NGNOULAYE" > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [governance] test > > received > best > - - - > 2017-02-03 9:08 GMT+01:00 Janvier NGNOULAYE : > Please confirm if you received this test mail ! > Regards Janvier Ngnoulaye > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list:      governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit:      http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see:      http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:      http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 01:10:12 2017 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 06:10:12 +0000 Subject: [governance] Serious Matters for ISOC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Janvier, I promise this will be my last word on this topic. First, kudos to Arsène who just spoke like a wise man, albeit a young one. As a Co-coordinator he plays very well his role by seeking to moderate here. I'm just talking as an individual member, in no role endorsed or assigned by this community (except of course, the drafting of a half page statement, a 2 day assignment completed a couple of days ago.) So allow me to break it down to you squarely, in my personal capacity. 1) This audience is full of people who are accustomed to reading and analysing written materials, even complex ones requiring contexts, including from people for whom English is not first language. We don't get stuck on some linguistic incorrections here or there, which do happen to all of us by the way, including English speaking people as first or only language. In most cases, readers here would assume the best or most plausible option for the intended meaning, taking into account the context (including our past experience with the speaker, if available.) So I am of the opinion that grammar does not explain anything here and no one (from the people who reacted against it) actually misunderstood your first email in this series. What does happen, though, is that our communications sometimes carry with them our blind spots or biases (these may be personal or cultural). The best among us try to acknowledge it when called out, but it's hard and that's human. 2) If you develop 5 points in a communication, and 4 of them positive or rather merely confirming what your audience would expect from you, while your 5th point causes them serious concern, well, their first order of business will be to let you know about their concern. Are you really surprised here? Well, you shouldn't be. 3) Arsène said this very clearly in that paragraph from his previous email where he referred to how you sounded in your first email. BTW, the subject line of that email reads: "Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet !!!" (I cannot tell I have all the digital evidence to claim you personally wrote that subject line but your mail is the only one I've seen in the thread that explains such line.) So yes, your message was conveying a sense of acceptability of the shutdown because it is partial, because it targets "only" 2 regions out 8. This does not depend on a word that is misplaced in a sentence, or misspelled. (I'd even go as far as to say rather than your audience isolating and pouncing on one or two words from your message, which you claim we've done here, this is more like a holistic reading of your message. Please note that I myself have already given you some benefit of doubt by saying in a previous message that in that first email of yours you may have been carried away while feeling the urge to say something in order to make your country - your government actually - look less bad. But misinterpretation, there was not.) And that sense of acceptability you conveyed was the only thing needed to provoke the chain of reactions you've seen here about this. 4) And last, as the saying goes, when you're in a hole (and you'd presumably want to get out of it), stop digging. The IGC only made a short and rather mild statement, addressed to the whole Chapter of Cameroon. For that modest statement to bother you so much that you'd write multiple emails trying to claim it is baseless or not warranted may be, just may be, telling something different from, and yet louder than, what you would want us to believe. Fortunately, your direct response to the statement (email with subject line: "Statement and clarifications of ISOC Cameroon on the Internet shutdowns in Cameroon") is on point and reassuring, and that's also the last word I'll take away from you, pointing toward positive prospects for ISOC Cameroon. Thank you and best of luck, Mawaki On Feb 3, 2017 11:22 AM, "Arsène Tungali" wrote: Dear Janvier, Thanks for your third email, trying to clarify the two previous ones. Actually, you don't need to justify yourself because when words are out, there is no way to take them back, especially in this context where they were written words which are kept in our archives. And trust me, i understand the language challenges you are facing, myself being a native French speaker. Sometimes, we are not able to fully express our minds in a different language :) I do salute the amazing work ISOC Cameroon is doing under your leadesrhip since 2011 and most importantly the fact that you are in line with the vision and mission of ISOC global under which (i believe) the Chapter is operating (even if you are a registered not for profit in Cameroon). Especially the actions you are planning to implement in this particular situation with regards to the shutdown. And please do not forget to include (i know you have done these already) capacity building programs on issues such as digital rights targetting all stakeholders, as suggested on this list. The over all discussion was based, in my humble opinion, on the fact that in your 1st email you sounded like someone who is trying by all means to tell this community that what's happening in Cameroon is not a terrible situation, only because it is just two regions out of 10 which are offline and that should not be considered as a disaster. And we should not speak up about that. Worse thing you signed your email as "ISOC Cameroon President", meaning you are speaking with that hat and in response to a call for support from another ISOC Cameroon member (i believe). And everyone (most of us here) was in agreement that this was a terrible declaration because universal principles, especially in the context of civil society in the Internet governance sphere, state that even one person should not be left behind. And when it is just two regions, if we don't speak up, next might be 3 or the whole country being turned offline, which is what happened in so many other countries including the DRC (where i come from). That's why we, as a group, decided to make an official statement on this and I am glad, as a result, you came back and explained that we misunderstood you. As a Cameroonian and an activist of open Internet (with a lot of experience), you should, in fact, consider this debate as a plus because now so many people are aware about what's going on in the country and how vulnerable the people affacted are. And whenever there is such a global awareness, we can expect good results in the future. And finally, you didn't have to say that we (Mawaki, Norbert and myself) are not more human rights activists than you are. This is simply rude and was out of context. We all fight the same battle and there is no need to say this to anyone who is only trying to help your country fellows and your country to benefit from an open Internet. I hope this debate will end here because it is no longer about you personally, dear Janvier, but about what we all fight for. I personally do wish the best to you and the people of Cameroon (where we have a lot of friends and colleagues) especially these regions which are facing social tensions and instability. Best regards, Arsene, IGC Coordinator ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK 2017-02-03 12:49 GMT+02:00 Janvier NGNOULAYE : > Hi to All, > I just note that many people have deliberately chosen some words from my > last 2 mails and focused their arguments on its, and finally come out with > their declaration. > But, It would have been fair to analyse the full content of the 2 mails, > and not to be focused on some single words taken out of their context. > Thank to Coko Tracy who pointed out a mistake of language I made when I > said ​"You are no more human rights activist than we are ......" reather > than to say : "You are not more human rights activist than we are...." > Next time I'll write everything in French. > > I request every one to put on the table these two mails I sent and make a > fair analyse sentence by sentence. > My 1st mail was trying to describe what was happening on the ground,and at > the end I suggested that the Chapter will work with the two partis to find > out a better solution. > The 2nd mail is in response to ​Arsène, Norbert and Mawaki where I come > with the statement that they were not more human rights activist, or ​not > more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter, for > meaning that the Chapter is in line with the vision and mission of > Internet Society on the ground. I found a partiality in their analysis and > it is deplorable. For instance into my 2nd mail, I talked about sensitized > and educated, for the better use of the Internet technologies and policies > with the governement, and the local population. No one on this list points > out this solution we raise and on which we are working now, to encourage > or to advice us. > Anyway, anyone is free to support or not any action we can make. > > Warm regards > Janvier Ngnoulaye > > > > > >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC >> Cameroon Chapter? >> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 02:29:02 +0100 >> From: Janvier NGNOULAYE >> To: Internet Governance , Norbert Bollow < >> nb at bollow.ch>, Arsène Tungali >> CC: Dawit Bekele , dawit at isoc.org, Joyce Dogniez < >> dogniez at isoc.org>, Dawit Bekele via Internet Society < >> mail at connectedcommunity.org>, chapter-d >> Chapter Delegates < >> Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> >> >> Dear >> ​​ >> Arsène, Norbert, Mawaki >> >> I appreciate your enthusiasm in your role. >> ​​ >> You are no more human rights >> activist than we are, or even >> ​​ >> more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter. >> >> We volunteer each day to work to make the Internet as open and >> accessible as possible to our local population. I do not need to show out >> here on this platform the actions and projects achieved so far. So you >> must understand that, we can not endorse a privation of the Internet to our >> population for whom we promote the open access of the Internet. I regret >> that you have misunderstand some words of my first mail on the matter. >> >> I would like to thank you for your concern on the case of Cameroon and >> also thank you for the declarative solution approach you are currently >> proposing. However, note that: >> >> 1) Cameroon is in a situation of war against Boko Haram, >> 2) Cameroon is in a situation of war against the secessionists, who have >> at one time erected their flag inside one part of the territory, no one >> knows by who they are supported and financed. >> 3) the current socio-political context is complex, and adding to that, >> there is still a lack of knowledge for using Internet tools by a big part >> of the population. >> 4) facing all of that, the government has taken security measures in its >> own way, some may be considered unfair, but it is wise for us to try to >> seat with them, discuss and work for the better solution, because we >> think that they need to be sensitized and educated about the better used of >> the Internet technologies and policies. >> 5) In a situation of conflict and crisis in a given country, there will >> be no an universal solution as you tend to suggest from your respective >> offices. >> 6) I chaired the ISOC Cameroon General Annual Assembly on Saturday 28 >> January 2017, this issue was addressed. Not need to expose its minutes to >> you here. >> >> So If you really want to help, please check back your proposal. >> >> I wanted to appeal the Internet Community, those who made a phone call to >> us to encourage us, and all the others of the community, to keep trusting >> ISOC Cameroon Chapter, who is working hard on the field to solve the issue. >> >> Best regards. >> >> Janvier Ngnoulaye, Ph.D >> ICT Teacher at the University >> President of the ISOC Cameroon Chapter. >> Activist of "The Internet is for everyone" >> http://www.internetsociety.cm/ >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down >> the Internet !!! >> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:58:48 +0100 >> From: Janvier NGNOULAYE >> To: Internet Governance , Renata Aquino >> Ribeiro >> CC: Deji Bryce Olukotun , Arsène Tungali < >> arsenebaguma at gmail.com>, Judith Hellerstein , < >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> >> >> Hi to all, >> >> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is very >> much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the >> problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. >> >> These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The >> government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable >> solutions. >> >> Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of >> Internet access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of >> the entire population of these 2 regions. >> >> Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending >> this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the situation is not a disaster as >> some seem to publish on the Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the >> government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even >> if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union >> services. >> >> ISOC Cameroon Chapter >> President >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just a thought CW > > Received! > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 03:49:49 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 09:49:49 +0100 Subject: [governance] Serious Matters for ISOC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mawaki I think it time for the class to have a recess Best A.N On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > Dear Janvier, > > I promise this will be my last word on this topic. First, kudos to Arsène > who just spoke like a wise man, albeit a young one. As a Co-coordinator he > plays very well his role by seeking to moderate here. I'm just talking as > an individual member, in no role endorsed or assigned by this community > (except of course, the drafting of a half page statement, a 2 day > assignment completed a couple of days ago.) So allow me to break it down to > you squarely, in my personal capacity. > > 1) This audience is full of people who are accustomed to reading and > analysing written materials, even complex ones requiring contexts, > including from people for whom English is not first language. We don't get > stuck on some linguistic incorrections here or there, which do happen to > all of us by the way, including English speaking people as first or only > language. In most cases, readers here would assume the best or most > plausible option for the intended meaning, taking into account the context > (including our past experience with the speaker, if available.) So I am of > the opinion that grammar does not explain anything here and no one (from > the people who reacted against it) actually misunderstood your first email > in this series. What does happen, though, is that our communications > sometimes carry with them our blind spots or biases (these may be personal > or cultural). The best among us try to acknowledge it when called out, but > it's hard and that's human. > > 2) If you develop 5 points in a communication, and 4 of them positive or > rather merely confirming what your audience would expect from you, while > your 5th point causes them serious concern, well, their first order of > business will be to let you know about their concern. Are you really > surprised here? Well, you shouldn't be. > > 3) Arsène said this very clearly in that paragraph from his previous email > where he referred to how you sounded in your first email. BTW, the subject > line of that email reads: "Please Cameroon did not shut down the Internet > !!!" (I cannot tell I have all the digital evidence to claim you personally > wrote that subject line but your mail is the only one I've seen in the > thread that explains such line.) So yes, your message was conveying a sense > of acceptability of the shutdown because it is partial, because it targets > "only" 2 regions out 8. This does not depend on a word that is misplaced in > a sentence, or misspelled. (I'd even go as far as to say rather than your > audience isolating and pouncing on one or two words from your message, > which you claim we've done here, this is more like a holistic reading of > your message. Please note that I myself have already given you some benefit > of doubt by saying in a previous message that in that first email of yours > you may have been carried away while feeling the urge to say something in > order to make your country - your government actually - look less bad. But > misinterpretation, there was not.) And that sense of acceptability you > conveyed was the only thing needed to provoke the chain of reactions you've > seen here about this. > > 4) And last, as the saying goes, when you're in a hole (and you'd > presumably want to get out of it), stop digging. The IGC only made a short > and rather mild statement, addressed to the whole Chapter of Cameroon. For > that modest statement to bother you so much that you'd write multiple > emails trying to claim it is baseless or not warranted may be, just may be, > telling something different from, and yet louder than, what you would want > us to believe. Fortunately, your direct response to the statement (email > with subject line: "Statement and clarifications of ISOC Cameroon on the > Internet shutdowns in Cameroon") is on point and reassuring, and that's > also the last word I'll take away from you, pointing toward positive > prospects for ISOC Cameroon. > > Thank you and best of luck, > > Mawaki > > > On Feb 3, 2017 11:22 AM, "Arsène Tungali" wrote: > > Dear Janvier, > > Thanks for your third email, trying to clarify the two previous ones. > Actually, you don't need to justify yourself because when words are out, > there is no way to take them back, especially in this context where they > were written words which are kept in our archives. And trust me, i > understand the language challenges you are facing, myself being a native > French speaker. Sometimes, we are not able to fully express our minds in a > different language :) > > I do salute the amazing work ISOC Cameroon is doing under your leadesrhip > since 2011 and most importantly the fact that you are in line with the > vision and mission of ISOC global under which (i believe) the Chapter is > operating (even if you are a registered not for profit in Cameroon). > Especially the actions you are planning to implement in this particular > situation with regards to the shutdown. And please do not forget to include > (i know you have done these already) capacity building programs on issues > such as digital rights targetting all stakeholders, as suggested on this > list. > > The over all discussion was based, in my humble opinion, on the fact that > in your 1st email you sounded like someone who is trying by all means to > tell this community that what's happening in Cameroon is not a terrible > situation, only because it is just two regions out of 10 which are offline > and that should not be considered as a disaster. And we should not speak up > about that. Worse thing you signed your email as "ISOC Cameroon President", > meaning you are speaking with that hat and in response to a call for > support from another ISOC Cameroon member (i believe). > > And everyone (most of us here) was in agreement that this was a terrible > declaration because universal principles, especially in the context of > civil society in the Internet governance sphere, state that even one person > should not be left behind. And when it is just two regions, if we don't > speak up, next might be 3 or the whole country being turned offline, which > is what happened in so many other countries including the DRC (where i come > from). That's why we, as a group, decided to make an official statement on > this and I am glad, as a result, you came back and explained that we > misunderstood you. > > As a Cameroonian and an activist of open Internet (with a lot of > experience), you should, in fact, consider this debate as a plus because > now so many people are aware about what's going on in the country and how > vulnerable the people affacted are. And whenever there is such a global > awareness, we can expect good results in the future. > > And finally, you didn't have to say that we (Mawaki, Norbert and myself) > are not more human rights activists than you are. This is simply rude and > was out of context. We all fight the same battle and there is no need to > say this to anyone who is only trying to help your country fellows and your > country to benefit from an open Internet. > > I hope this debate will end here because it is no longer about you > personally, dear Janvier, but about what we all fight for. I personally do > wish the best to you and the people of Cameroon (where we have a lot of > friends and colleagues) especially these regions which are facing social > tensions and instability. > > Best regards, > Arsene, IGC Coordinator > > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967> > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > > & Mexico > ) > - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > > )* - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > 2017-02-03 12:49 GMT+02:00 Janvier NGNOULAYE : > >> Hi to All, >> I just note that many people have deliberately chosen some words from my >> last 2 mails and focused their arguments on its, and finally come out with >> their declaration. >> But, It would have been fair to analyse the full content of the 2 mails, >> and not to be focused on some single words taken out of their context. >> Thank to Coko Tracy who pointed out a mistake of language I made when I >> said ​"You are no more human rights activist than we are ......" reather >> than to say : "You are not more human rights activist than we are...." >> Next time I'll write everything in French. >> >> I request every one to put on the table these two mails I sent and make a >> fair analyse sentence by sentence. >> My 1st mail was trying to describe what was happening on the ground,and >> at the end I suggested that the Chapter will work with the two partis to >> find out a better solution. >> The 2nd mail is in response to ​Arsène, Norbert and Mawaki where I come >> with the statement that they were not more human rights activist, or ​not >> more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter, for >> meaning that the Chapter is in line with the vision and mission of >> Internet Society on the ground. I found a partiality in their analysis and >> it is deplorable. For instance into my 2nd mail, I talked about sensitized >> and educated, for the better use of the Internet technologies and policies >> with the governement, and the local population. No one on this list points >> out this solution we raise and on which we are working now, to encourage >> or to advice us. >> Anyway, anyone is free to support or not any action we can make. >> >> Warm regards >> Janvier Ngnoulaye >> >> >> >> >> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the >>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter? >>> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 02:29:02 +0100 >>> From: Janvier NGNOULAYE >>> To: Internet Governance , Norbert Bollow >>> , Arsène Tungali >>> CC: Dawit Bekele , dawit at isoc.org, Joyce Dogniez < >>> dogniez at isoc.org>, Dawit Bekele via Internet Society < >>> mail at connectedcommunity.org>, chapter-d >> Chapter Delegates < >>> Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> >>> >>> Dear >>> ​​ >>> Arsène, Norbert, Mawaki >>> >>> I appreciate your enthusiasm in your role. >>> ​​ >>> You are no more human rights >>> activist than we are, or even >>> ​​ >>> more open internet activist than we are in ISOC Cameroon Chapter. >>> >>> We volunteer each day to work to make the Internet as open and >>> accessible as possible to our local population. I do not need to show out >>> here on this platform the actions and projects achieved so far. So you >>> must understand that, we can not endorse a privation of the Internet to our >>> population for whom we promote the open access of the Internet. I regret >>> that you have misunderstand some words of my first mail on the matter. >>> >>> I would like to thank you for your concern on the case of Cameroon and >>> also thank you for the declarative solution approach you are currently >>> proposing. However, note that: >>> >>> 1) Cameroon is in a situation of war against Boko Haram, >>> 2) Cameroon is in a situation of war against the secessionists, who have >>> at one time erected their flag inside one part of the territory, no one >>> knows by who they are supported and financed. >>> 3) the current socio-political context is complex, and adding to that, >>> there is still a lack of knowledge for using Internet tools by a big >>> part of the population. >>> 4) facing all of that, the government has taken security measures in its >>> own way, some may be considered unfair, but it is wise for us to try to >>> seat with them, discuss and work for the better solution, because we >>> think that they need to be sensitized and educated about the better used of >>> the Internet technologies and policies. >>> 5) In a situation of conflict and crisis in a given country, there will >>> be no an universal solution as you tend to suggest from your respective >>> offices. >>> 6) I chaired the ISOC Cameroon General Annual Assembly on Saturday 28 >>> January 2017, this issue was addressed. Not need to expose its minutes >>> to you here. >>> >>> So If you really want to help, please check back your proposal. >>> >>> I wanted to appeal the Internet Community, those who made a phone call >>> to us to encourage us, and all the others of the community, to keep >>> trusting ISOC Cameroon Chapter, who is working hard on the field to solve >>> the issue. >>> >>> Best regards. >>> >>> Janvier Ngnoulaye, Ph.D >>> ICT Teacher at the University >>> President of the ISOC Cameroon Chapter. >>> Activist of "The Internet is for everyone" >>> http://www.internetsociety.cm/ >>> >>> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Please Cameroon did not shut down >>> the Internet !!! >>> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:58:48 +0100 >>> From: Janvier NGNOULAYE >>> To: Internet Governance , Renata Aquino >>> Ribeiro >>> CC: Deji Bryce Olukotun , Arsène Tungali < >>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com>, Judith Hellerstein , < >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> >>> >>> Hi to all, >>> >>> It seems to me that the problem of access to Internet in Cameroon is >>> very much amplified here on the Net. There are 10 regions in Cameroon, the >>> problem of access to the Internet is only concerning 2 Regions. >>> >>> These 2 regions actually has some political or social crisis. The >>> government and other stakeholders in these 2 areas are looking for suitable >>> solutions. >>> >>> Meanwhile, the government has seen fit to cut these two regions of >>> Internet access and Western Union money transfer services, for the sake of >>> the entire population of these 2 regions. >>> >>> Internet works well everywhere else in the other 8 regions. I'm sending >>> this mail from Yaounde in Cameroon. So the situation is not a disaster >>> as some seem to publish on the Net. The ISOC Chapter can only encourage the >>> government and the other stakeholders to seek lasting peace solutions, even >>> if it involves a temporary suspension of Internet and Western Union >>> services. >>> >>> ISOC Cameroon Chapter >>> President >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just go ask Donald Trump who won an election and is now facing demonstrations all over the place. If you read Jean Louis Fullsack's mail to me on this saga then you will know from which book Arsène read before CALLING ME UP. Cheers and let the fight for freedom and a better world continue All the best Agien Nyangkwe On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 6:19 PM, willi uebelherr wrote: > > Dear Arsene, > > it is not a question of some more or less emails in our mailboxes. It is > more a question of the content in the emails. > > Agien Nyangkwe helped us to understand the concrete implementation of our > principles for an open and free Internet. And without his emails we would > be unable to understand the backgrounds. > > Therefore, please, never start to block the free flow of information as a > base for our discussion. We don't know, what is important for us as so high > different and diverse persons, living in high diverse environments. > > The core principles are common. But never the implementation. Our friends > should be able to decide itself, what is important for them. > > many greetings, willi > Asuncion, Paraguay > > > > On 03/02/2017 08:43, Arsène Tungali wrote: > >> Dear Aaron, >> >> I do appreciate your concern and the amazing work you have been doing >> especially with regards to the current situation happening in Cameroon. >> You >> really helped us understand more the situation by giving and sharing a lot >> of background info. >> >> From now on, may I request you to please stop naming Mr Janvier or anyone >>> >> else when you make statements? It is not a battle between us and anyone. >> This is for the sake of finding peace in the group, especially now that we >> have more and more work to do with regards to the IGC and its future. >> >> May I also request you to no longer post any news link to the list which >> has nothing to do with Internet governance, to avoid sending a lot of >> emails into our member's mailboxes? We need to keep this list to what it >> is >> intended to and be able to keep our members as active as we can. >> >> I hope this makes sense. >> >> Best regards, >> Arsene, IGC Coordinator >> >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Violators may face court persecution. > > On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Divina MEIGS > wrote: > >> received! >> >> >> >> Divina Frau-Meigs, Professeur Sorbonne Nouvelle >> Présidente défi 8, Agence Nationale de la Recherche >> Chaire UNESCO "savoir devenir à l'ère du développement numérique durable" >> Porteur projet ANR TRANSLIT, projets Européens ECO (CIP), ECFOLI >> (Erasmus+), ONU radicalisation et médias sociaux >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Message du 03/02/17 12:07 >> > De : "Louis Pouzin (well)" >> > A : "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , >> "Janvier NGNOULAYE" >> > Copie à : >> > Objet : Re: [governance] test >> >> > >> > >> received >> > >> best >> > >> - - - >> > >> 2017-02-03 9:08 GMT+01:00 Janvier NGNOULAYE : >> > >>> >>> Please confirm if you received this test mail ! >>> > >>> Regards >>> Janvier Ngnoulaye >>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Giacomo From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Janvier NGNOULAYE Sent: vendredi 3 février 2017 09:08 To: Internet Governance Subject: [governance] test Please confirm if you received this test mail ! Regards Janvier Ngnoulaye ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by the mailgateway ************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 13:05:55 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 20:05:55 +0200 Subject: [governance] The ''test'' email Message-ID: <7FCF2B6F-A4AE-4144-A68E-8CD4A31C362D@gmail.com> Colleagues, As requested by a member on this list, can we please stop responding to the email from our colleague Janvier asking you to ''confirm if you received this email test''? It is good to note that you are in the list. This is actually a good way for me to check who is here and it makes me glad that so many of you are receiving our emails (even if some are not responding/reacting to sensitive emails :) ) Thank you very much. And please do not respond to this one as well if you see it :) Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend. Sending greetings from a country called DRCongo in central Africa. 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Greetings, willi On 04/02/2017 14:41, Mazzone, Giacomo wrote: > Ciao janvier, > Oui je l’ai bien reçu. > Giacomo > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From skiden at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 01:06:49 2017 From: skiden at gmail.com (Sarah Kiden) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 06:06:49 +0000 Subject: [governance] Expiration of my role as co-coordinator - Report and next steps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Analia! You did a great job! Regards, Sarah Le mer. 1 févr. 2017 à 20:25, Analia Aspis a écrit : > Dear list, > > As you may know, on January 2017 expired my role as IGC co-coordinator. > This means that from now, I do not have any responsiblity or tasks to > follow under such role. The current Coordinator, Arsene Tungali will very > soon send a call to the list to request self-nominations for those you may > wish to have the experience of this lovely and challenging task. After the > closure for such call and after receiving the self-nominations along with > their expression of interest to become co-coordinator of the IGC for the > 2017-2019 period, a votation link will be provided to vote. > Besides the election process that will be run by Arsene, you will be > shortly as well be informed by him, on the technical changes that will be > implemented, since we have been informed that by 1st March 2017, the > enterprise that worked with IGC for the past 7 years, has decided to end > their business, which means that all the information related to IGC should > be backed up and migrate to a new plattform, which I think and knowing how > Arsene works, it would be definetively fresh and very professional. > > Despite this quick report on how it will be handled this technical and > administrative issues, I would love to thank all of you for your patiente, > good vibes and help over this past 2 years. I have learn a lot and better > understood how challenging it can be an international network where I tried > my best, to enhance the values of respect, inclusion and diversity. Of > course this could not have been done without the help of my two > co-coordinators, Deidre and Arsene, from which I have not only learned at > lot but achived a great team work. Now with Arsene and the new person who > will take the lead, a new phase starts, with a lot of opportinitues and > visions. > > Again, thanks a lot for your participation and work, see you anytime, > anywhere, > Regards, > Analía Aspis > IGC- former co-coordinator > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From williams.deirdre at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 05:32:22 2017 From: williams.deirdre at gmail.com (Deirdre Williams) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 06:32:22 -0400 Subject: [governance] Expiration of my role as co-coordinator - Report and next steps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Analia, It was great to work with you. Thank you for all of the "behind the scenes" stuff you did when we were coordinators together. And thank you for everything you've done for IGC since then. One of these days I hope we'll get to meet "for real"! Very best wishes Deirdre On 1 February 2017 at 13:24, Analia Aspis wrote: > Dear list, > > As you may know, on January 2017 expired my role as IGC co-coordinator. > This means that from now, I do not have any responsiblity or tasks to > follow under such role. The current Coordinator, Arsene Tungali will very > soon send a call to the list to request self-nominations for those you may > wish to have the experience of this lovely and challenging task. After the > closure for such call and after receiving the self-nominations along with > their expression of interest to become co-coordinator of the IGC for the > 2017-2019 period, a votation link will be provided to vote. > Besides the election process that will be run by Arsene, you will be > shortly as well be informed by him, on the technical changes that will be > implemented, since we have been informed that by 1st March 2017, the > enterprise that worked with IGC for the past 7 years, has decided to end > their business, which means that all the information related to IGC should > be backed up and migrate to a new plattform, which I think and knowing how > Arsene works, it would be definetively fresh and very professional. > > Despite this quick report on how it will be handled this technical and > administrative issues, I would love to thank all of you for your patiente, > good vibes and help over this past 2 years. I have learn a lot and better > understood how challenging it can be an international network where I tried > my best, to enhance the values of respect, inclusion and diversity. Of > course this could not have been done without the help of my two > co-coordinators, Deidre and Arsene, from which I have not only learned at > lot but achived a great team work. Now with Arsene and the new person who > will take the lead, a new phase starts, with a lot of opportinitues and > visions. > > Again, thanks a lot for your participation and work, see you anytime, > anywhere, > Regards, > Analía Aspis > IGC- former co-coordinator > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mahas015 at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 09:09:47 2017 From: mahas015 at gmail.com (Mahamat Adam Seid) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 15:09:47 +0100 Subject: [governance] test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Yes I received. 2017-02-03 9:08 UTC+01:00, Janvier NGNOULAYE : > Please confirm if you received this test mail ! > Regards > Janvier Ngnoulaye > -- Mr Mahamat Adam Seid Chef de service Finances et Comptabilité à l'Agence Nationale des Investissements et des Exportations Membre de l'ISOC Tchad Membre de l'ACIEDD Coordonnateur adjoint du programme United Nations Youth Delegate of Chad Tél.: +235 66 46 36 38 ou 99 97 39 77 BP: 2068 s/c ANIE N'Djamena-Tchad -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From sarvjeet.singh at nludelhi.ac.in Mon Feb 6 04:22:34 2017 From: sarvjeet.singh at nludelhi.ac.in (Sarvjeet Singh) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:52:34 +0530 Subject: [governance] (Deadline Tomorrow) Internet Policy in South and Southeast Asia: Research Methods for Advocacy [ASC-IPO, CCG-NLU, CIS & DAH] Message-ID: *The Internet Policy Observatory presents* *Internet Policy in South and Southeast Asia: Research Methods for Advocacy* *April 10-14, 2017, New Delhi, India* *Application Deadline Extended till: February 7, 2017 (tomorrow)* Application available at https://goo.gl/forms/we53DCD62M0Cmx7Z2 Activists around the world are working towards influencing internet policymaking processes and raise awareness about the importance of protecting the open internet. Given this background, there is a clear need to link relevant and methodologically sophisticated internet policy research with advocacy efforts. Building on the success of the Internet Policy Research Methods Course for Advocates held in Istanbul in 2015, the *Annenberg School for Communication’s **Internet Policy Observatory has teamed up with the Centre for Communication Governance at National Law University, Delhi, the Centre for Internet and Society **and the Digital Asia Hub* to develop a research methods workshop for individuals working on digital rights issues in South Asian and Southeast Asian countries. The workshop will be organized from *April 10-14, 2017 at National Law University, Delhi (India)*. The workshop brings together young scholars, activists, lawyers, and technologists for an intensive five-day practicum on using methodologically rigorous, data-driven, and contextually appropriate research for advocacy. The workshop is designed to cover both qualitative and quantitative, online and offline research methods, providing the space for hands-on activities and project-based learning. The program aims to strategically build collaborative possibilities across sectors, expand research capacity within practitioner and digital rights advocacy communities, and to provide the skills and know-how to use research and data to advance advocacy efforts. The program will provide skill-building tutorials on the following topics: § Defining and framing research topics and questions § Conducting desk and archival research § Researching law, policy and regulation § Questionnaire/interview design and techniques § Conducting surveys and public opinion research § Network measurement § Social network analysis § Data visualization § Translating research into action: dissemination for advocacy and policymaking impact § Developing proposals for funding and creating actionable research agendas We encourage individuals from South Asia and Southeast Asia in the academic (early career), NGO, technology, and public policy sectors to apply. Prospective applicants should have a particular area of interest related to internet governance and policymaking, censorship, surveillance, internet access, political engagement online, protection of human rights online, or corporate governance in the ICT sector. Applicants will be asked to bring a specific research question to the program to be developed and operationalized through trainings and one-on-one mentorship with top researchers and experts from around the world. The course will be conducted in English and applicants should be proficient in English in order to interact with experts, lecturers and other participants from diverse backgrounds. A limited pool of funding in the form of travel support is available and will be allocated based on the strength of the application, fit with the workshop, and demonstrated need. If you require funding support, please indicate as such in the online form. Please do forward this to anyone who may be interested. To apply for the workshop, please visit https://goo.gl/forms/ we53DCD62M0Cmx7Z2. For more information about the program, please visit http://globalnetpolicy. org/event/internet-policy-in-south-and-southeast-asia- research-methods-for-advocacy/. For questions, email lsh at asc.upenn.edu -- Sarvjeet Singh | Programme Manager Centre for Communication Governance | National Law University, Delhi | Sector-14, Dwarka, New Delhi - 110078 | Cell: (+91) 999-023-2298 | Fax: (+91) 11-280-34256 | skype: sarvjeet.moond | www.ccgdelhi.org . www.ccgtlr.org . www.nludelhi.ac.in | Twitter: @ccgnlud . @sarvjeetmoond PGP: 0xBE8B DD6F | Fingerprint: 9F3B BE61 14F4 D458 0373 535D 9474 2EE9 BE88 DD6F -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Mon Feb 6 06:17:55 2017 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 12:17:55 +0100 Subject: [governance] (Deadline Tomorrow) Internet Policy in South and Southeast Asia: Research Methods for Advocacy [ASC-IPO, CCG-NLU, CIS & DAH] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: When next there will be such a course that involves Africa, pleas inform us Agien Nyangkwe On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Sarvjeet Singh < sarvjeet.singh at nludelhi.ac.in> wrote: > *The Internet Policy Observatory presents* > > *Internet Policy in South and Southeast Asia: Research Methods for > Advocacy* > > *April 10-14, 2017, New Delhi, India* > > *Application Deadline Extended till: February 7, 2017 (tomorrow)* > > Application available at https://goo.gl/forms/we53DCD62M0Cmx7Z2 > > > > Activists around the world are working towards influencing internet > policymaking processes and raise awareness about the importance of > protecting the open internet. Given this background, there is a clear need > to link relevant and methodologically sophisticated internet policy > research with advocacy efforts. > > Building on the success of the Internet Policy Research Methods Course for > Advocates held in Istanbul in 2015, the *Annenberg School for > Communication’s **Internet Policy Observatory has teamed up with the > Centre for Communication Governance at National Law University, Delhi, the > Centre for Internet and Society **and the Digital Asia Hub* to develop a > research methods workshop for individuals working on digital rights issues > in South Asian and Southeast Asian countries. The workshop will be > organized from *April 10-14, 2017 at National Law University, Delhi > (India)*. > > The workshop brings together young scholars, activists, lawyers, and > technologists for an intensive five-day practicum on using > methodologically rigorous, data-driven, and contextually appropriate > research for advocacy. The workshop is designed to cover both qualitative > and quantitative, online and offline research methods, providing the space > for hands-on activities and project-based learning. The program aims to > strategically build collaborative possibilities across sectors, expand > research capacity within practitioner and digital rights advocacy > communities, and to provide the skills and know-how to use research and > data to advance advocacy efforts. > > The program will provide skill-building tutorials on the following > topics: > > § Defining and framing research topics and questions > > § Conducting desk and archival research > > § Researching law, policy and regulation > > § Questionnaire/interview design and techniques > > § Conducting surveys and public opinion research > > § Network measurement > > § Social network analysis > > § Data visualization > > § Translating research into action: dissemination for advocacy and > policymaking impact > > § Developing proposals for funding and creating actionable research > agendas > > We encourage individuals from South Asia and Southeast Asia in the > academic (early career), NGO, technology, and public policy sectors to > apply. Prospective applicants should have a particular area of interest > related to internet governance and policymaking, censorship, surveillance, > internet access, political engagement online, protection of human rights > online, or corporate governance in the ICT sector. Applicants will be asked > to bring a specific research question to the program to be developed and > operationalized through trainings and one-on-one mentorship with top > researchers and experts from around the world. > > The course will be conducted in English and applicants should be > proficient in English in order to interact with experts, lecturers and > other participants from diverse backgrounds. A limited pool of funding in > the form of travel support is available and will be allocated based on the > strength of the application, fit with the workshop, and demonstrated need. > If you require funding support, please indicate as such in the online form. > > Please do forward this to anyone who may be interested. > > To apply for the workshop, please visit https://goo.gl/forms/we5 > 3DCD62M0Cmx7Z2. > > For more information about the program, please visit > http://globalnetpolicy.org/event/internet-policy-in-so > uth-and-southeast-asia-research-methods-for-advocacy/. For questions, > email lsh at asc.upenn.edu > > -- > > > Sarvjeet Singh | Programme Manager > Centre for Communication Governance | National Law University, Delhi | Sector-14, > Dwarka, New Delhi - 110078 | Cell: (+91) 999-023-2298 > <+91%2099902%2032298> | Fax: (+91) 11-280-34256 | skype: sarvjeet.moond | > www.ccgdelhi.org . www.ccgtlr.org . www.nlu > delhi.ac.in | Twitter: @ccgnlud . > @sarvjeetmoond > > PGP: 0xBE8B DD6F | Fingerprint: 9F3B BE61 14F4 D458 0373 535D 9474 2EE9 BE88 DD6F > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Aaron Agien NYANGKWE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 673 42 71 27 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From joly at punkcast.com Mon Feb 6 11:06:26 2017 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 11:06:26 -0500 Subject: [governance] WEBCAST: #NANOG69 underway in Washington DC Message-ID: Great program, as always. Two sessions to look out for, both on Wednesday - 11am *Christian Dawson: Internet Attack Increases Require Policy Engagement , *and 4pm* Geoff Huston Let's Encrypt with Dane * joly posted: "The 69th meeting of the North American Network Operators Group (NANOG) is underway in Washington DC (February 6-8, 2017). Webcasts and some remote participation options are available. DC is on EST same as NYC, or UTC-5. What: NANOG 69 Where: Washington " [image: NANOG live] The *69th meeting * of the *North American Network Operators Group * (NANOG) is underway in Washington DC (February 6-8, 2017). Webcasts and some remote participation options are available. DC is on EST same as NYC, or UTC-5. *What: NANOG 69 * * Where: Washington DC* * When: February 6-8, 2017* * Program: https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog69/agenda * * Webcast: http://nanog.kaskadian.com/ * * Video: https://www.youtube.com/user/TeamNANOG/ * * Twitter: #nanog69 * Comment See all comments *​Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/8951 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you for all of the "behind the > scenes" stuff you did when we were coordinators together. And thank you for > everything you've done for IGC since then. One of these days I hope we'll > get to meet "for real"! > Very best wishes > Deirdre > > On 1 February 2017 at 13:24, Analia Aspis wrote: > >> Dear list, >> >> As you may know, on January 2017 expired my role as IGC co-coordinator. >> This means that from now, I do not have any responsiblity or tasks to >> follow under such role. The current Coordinator, Arsene Tungali will very >> soon send a call to the list to request self-nominations for those you may >> wish to have the experience of this lovely and challenging task. After the >> closure for such call and after receiving the self-nominations along with >> their expression of interest to become co-coordinator of the IGC for the >> 2017-2019 period, a votation link will be provided to vote. >> Besides the election process that will be run by Arsene, you will be >> shortly as well be informed by him, on the technical changes that will be >> implemented, since we have been informed that by 1st March 2017, the >> enterprise that worked with IGC for the past 7 years, has decided to end >> their business, which means that all the information related to IGC should >> be backed up and migrate to a new plattform, which I think and knowing how >> Arsene works, it would be definetively fresh and very professional. >> >> Despite this quick report on how it will be handled this technical and >> administrative issues, I would love to thank all of you for your patiente, >> good vibes and help over this past 2 years. I have learn a lot and better >> understood how challenging it can be an international network where I tried >> my best, to enhance the values of respect, inclusion and diversity. Of >> course this could not have been done without the help of my two >> co-coordinators, Deidre and Arsene, from which I have not only learned at >> lot but achived a great team work. Now with Arsene and the new person who >> will take the lead, a new phase starts, with a lot of opportinitues and >> visions. >> >> Again, thanks a lot for your participation and work, see you anytime, >> anywhere, >> Regards, >> Analía Aspis >> IGC- former co-coordinator >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 14:39:42 2017 From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 21:39:42 +0200 Subject: [governance] What are we up to? Message-ID: Colleagues, Last week I sent a call for volunteers to help us with website and mailing list back up/migration. I would like to thank those who reached out to me to offer their time and skills. We are busy trying to solve this issue with a wonderful team. We hope to bring to you some good news about a new website and a new mailing list platform; it is not an easy task but we hope to be done before March 1st. When this is done (hopefully by next month), we will then open a call for a new Co-co to replace Analia. Apologize for the time it is taking. I would like to use this opportunity to personally thank Analia for her work for the past two years. She is an amazing person and an amazing colleague that I was humbled to join as Co-coordinator in February 2016. Her support was really timely and needed as I was learning the task of co-coordinating this wonderful community. She walked me through all I needed, my first steps, in order to play my role. I learnt a lot from her and I will always be thankful for her patience, her understanding even when I was very slow in responding or performing a task. It wasn't easy, her being in South America and me being in Africa. Time difference was a challenge but we managed to make things happen as a good team. I wish you all the best, Analia. I know you are still around with your task as Co-chair of the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) where IGC is a network member. I hope we get to meet (face to face) somewhere in the near future! Best regards, Arsene -- ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international *, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum * Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil & Mexico ) - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles & Marrakech ). 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: weldone Arsene and team Remmy ____ REMMY NWEKE, mNGE, Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*] (DigitalSENSE Business News ; ITREALMS , NaijaAgroNet ) Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria PC Summit 2017 , December 7-8 @Federal Palace, Victoria Island, Lagos. *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS ) _________________________________________________________________ *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution. On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Arsène Tungali wrote: > Colleagues, > > Last week I sent a call for volunteers to help us with website and > mailing list back up/migration. I would like to thank those who > reached out to me to offer their time and skills. > > We are busy trying to solve this issue with a wonderful team. We hope > to bring to you some good news about a new website and a new mailing > list platform; it is not an easy task but we hope to be done before > March 1st. > > When this is done (hopefully by next month), we will then open a call > for a new Co-co to replace Analia. Apologize for the time it is > taking. > > I would like to use this opportunity to personally thank Analia for > her work for the past two years. She is an amazing person and an > amazing colleague that I was humbled to join as Co-coordinator in > February 2016. Her support was really timely and needed as I was > learning the task of co-coordinating this wonderful community. She > walked me through all I needed, my first steps, in order to play my > role. I learnt a lot from her and I will always be thankful for her > patience, her understanding even when I was very slow in responding or > performing a task. It wasn't easy, her being in South America and me > being in Africa. Time difference was a challenge but we managed to > make things happen as a good team. > > I wish you all the best, Analia. I know you are still around with your > task as Co-chair of the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) where > IGC is a network member. I hope we get to meet (face to face) > somewhere in the near future! > > Best regards, > Arsene > > -- > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > mandela-washington.html> > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf- > ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors> > & Mexico > leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) > - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > >)* > - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The 2017 IGF will be held in Geneva at the end of the year. The 2017 IGF Open Consultations is open for those who wish to register online or physically. You can either attend personally in Geneva or stream in to participate. You can access the Agenda and may wish to submit your thoughts electronically on different Agenda items in advance to the Secretariat and they will make sure to have them read on the day and the contents summarized and made known to the MAG. *2016 Best Practice Forum Reports* For all those who helped contribute to these Reports in one form or another, you all know who you are. Best Practice Forum on IXP Report Best Practice Forum on IPv6 Report Best Practice Forum on Cyber Security Best Practice Forum on Access and Gender *Dynamic Coalition Papers that were prepared ahead of the 2016 IGF* The Dynamic Coalition Papers (on the following themes Accessibility and Disability, Blockchain Technologies, Child Online Safety, Community Connectivity, Core Internet Values, Gender and Internet Governance, Innovative Approaches to connecting the Unconnected, Internet and Climate Change, Internet of Things, Network Neutrality, Public Access in Libraries, Rights and Principles Coalition) are accessible here . *Policy Options for Connecting the Next Billion* Phase 2 of the Policy Options for Connecting the Enabling the Next Billion (s) is now available. With every best wish, -- *Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala T* *P. O. Box 17862* *Suva* *Republic of Fiji* *Cell: +679 7656770; (FJ) +6420210741720 (NZ)* *Home: +679 3362003* *Twitter: @SalanietaT* *"You will never do anything in this world without courage. It is the greatest quality of the mind next to honour." Aristotle* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From analia.aspis at gmail.com Tue Feb 7 21:23:39 2017 From: analia.aspis at gmail.com (Analia Aspis) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 23:23:39 -0300 Subject: [governance] What are we up to? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Arsene for your words :) I leave the team on very good hands! Cheers, Analía On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Remmy Nweke wrote: > weldone Arsene and team > Remmy > > ____ > REMMY NWEKE, mNGE, > Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, > DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*] > (DigitalSENSE Business News > ; ITREALMS > , NaijaAgroNet > ) > Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos > M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms > > Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria > > PC Summit 2017 , December 7-8 @Federal > Palace, Victoria Island, Lagos. > > *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS > ) > _________________________________________________________________ > *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments > are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended > only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal > responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do > not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make > any copies. Violators may face court persecution. > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Arsène Tungali > wrote: > >> Colleagues, >> >> Last week I sent a call for volunteers to help us with website and >> mailing list back up/migration. I would like to thank those who >> reached out to me to offer their time and skills. >> >> We are busy trying to solve this issue with a wonderful team. We hope >> to bring to you some good news about a new website and a new mailing >> list platform; it is not an easy task but we hope to be done before >> March 1st. >> >> When this is done (hopefully by next month), we will then open a call >> for a new Co-co to replace Analia. Apologize for the time it is >> taking. >> >> I would like to use this opportunity to personally thank Analia for >> her work for the past two years. She is an amazing person and an >> amazing colleague that I was humbled to join as Co-coordinator in >> February 2016. Her support was really timely and needed as I was >> learning the task of co-coordinating this wonderful community. She >> walked me through all I needed, my first steps, in order to play my >> role. I learnt a lot from her and I will always be thankful for her >> patience, her understanding even when I was very slow in responding or >> performing a task. It wasn't easy, her being in South America and me >> being in Africa. Time difference was a challenge but we managed to >> make things happen as a good team. >> >> I wish you all the best, Analia. I know you are still around with your >> task as Co-chair of the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) where >> IGC is a network member. I hope we get to meet (face to face) >> somewhere in the near future! >> >> Best regards, >> Arsene >> >> -- >> ------------------------ >> **Arsène Tungali** >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international >> *, >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum >> * >> Tel: +243 993810967 >> GPG: 523644A0 >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* >> >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow >> > la-washington.html> >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil >> > dership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors- >> programme/Past-Ambassadors> >> & Mexico >> > dership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) >> - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger >> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles >> & Marrakech >> > -2016-03-14-en> >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius >> > owship-winners>)* >> - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fulvio.frati at unimi.it Wed Feb 8 04:45:56 2017 From: fulvio.frati at unimi.it (Fulvio Frati) Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 10:45:56 +0100 Subject: [governance] IEEE International Conference on AI & Mobile Services (AIMS 2017) Message-ID: <02ab01d281f0$254bbb60$6fe33220$@unimi.it> *** AIMS 2017 *** [Apologies for cross-postings] ::::::::::::::::::::::::: CALL FOR PAPERS::::::::::::::::::::::::: IEEE International Conference on AI & Mobile Services (AIMS 2017) June 25 - June 30, 2017, Hilton Village, Honolulu, HI, USA Theme: AI-powered Wearable Technology and Internet-of-Things (IoT) applications http://www.themobileservices.org/2017/ :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Wireless and ubiquitous connectivity have enabled mobile computing and Internet access on the go as a life-enhancing and indispensable experience of modern life. More than 50 billion devices, in more than 200 device types, will likely be connected to the Internet by 2020 as integral components of a new generation of high-value application services for consumers and enterprises. API-defined mobile services have become essential ubiquitous services consumption and delivery enablers for many industries and government organizations worldwide. The 2017 IEEE International Conference on AI & Mobile Services (AIMS) aims at providing an international forum that is dedicated to exploring different aspects of mobile services (from business management to computing systems, algorithms, and applications) and to promoting technological innovations in research and development of mobile services, including, but not limited to, wireless & sensor networks, mobile & wearable computing, mobile enterprise & eCommerce, ubiquitous collaborative & social services, machine-to-machine & Internet-of-things clouds, cyber-physical integration, and big data analytics for mobility-enabled services. AIMS 2017 will co-locate with IEEE CLOUD 2017, ICWS 2017, SCC 2017, BigData Congress 2017, SERVICES 2017, ICCC 2017, ICIOT 2017, and ICFC 2017. Important Dates =============== - Full Paper Submission Due Date: February 21, 2017 - Decision Notification (Electronic): April 15, 2017 - Camera-Ready Copy Due Date & Pre-registration Due: April 25, 2017 Topics of Interest include, not limited to: Middleware ========== - Mobility identity & access mechanism - Context- and location-aware middleware - Agent technologies in ubiquitous, wearable, and mobile services - Messaging, media streaming, and event management middleware for mobile devices - Mobility API integration, brokerage, and management - Mobile backend as a service (MBaaS) and mobile app platform - Reliability, availability, serviceability, scalability, and disaster recovery for mobile services - Knowledge acquisition, discovery, matching, composition, and analytics for mobile services Engineering =========== - Software architectures, programming framework, and operational models for mobile services - Asset and configuration management of mobile devices - Data management & integration for mobile services - Big data analytics for mobility-enabled services - Queries, transactions, and workflows in mobile services - Performance & capacity management for mobile services - Security & performance healthcheck for mobile services - Service catalog, SLA, and compliance management for mobile services - DevOps and operations management for mobile services User experience =============== - User interfaces and usability for mobile applications and services - Multimodal interfaces (speech, video kinetic, tactile) Applications ============ - IoT-enabled services & industrial transformation (e.g., connected vehicles, clinical remote monitoring, assisted living, building automation, traffic management, asset management, etc.) - IoT-enabled management of the physical world - Innovative mobile, ubiquitous, and wearable applications - Mobile social networking - Ubiquitous collaborative & social services - Mobile Web - Services based on ad hoc and sensor networks - Community based computing - Personal-area services and applications Cross-cutting ============= - Security and privacy in mobile services - Trust models for mobile services - Localization and tracking - Application-level energy management for mobile devices *************************************** NEWS ********************** One Best paper and one Best student paper will be announced. Top papers will be invited to submit extended versions to IEEE Transactions on Services Computing (TSC), International Journal of Web Services Research (JWSR), International Journal of Business Process Integration and Management (IJBPIM), open-access International Journal of Services Computing (IJSC), International Journal of Cloud Computing (IJCC), and International Journal of Big Data (IJBD). Both TSC and JWSR are SCI and EI indexed. ******************************************************************** ***For any queries, please send emails to aims @ servicessociety.org. *** -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From hindenburgo at uerj.br Wed Feb 8 07:41:20 2017 From: hindenburgo at uerj.br (Hindenburgo Francisco Pires) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 10:41:20 -0200 Subject: [governance] test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <416dd2fe91baaadd6462ffd2e65f6b6a.squirrel@webmail.uerj.br> Yes, I received. > Please confirm if you received this test mail ! > Regards > Janvier Ngnoulaye > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- Hindenburgo Pires Director of the Geography Institute at Rio de Janeiro State University - UERJ Professor of Human Geography Department Postgraduate Program in Geography - PPGEO http://www.ppgeo.igeog.uerj.br http://www.cibergeo.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From baudouin.schombe at gmail.com Thu Feb 9 01:41:17 2017 From: baudouin.schombe at gmail.com (BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE) Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:41:17 +0200 Subject: [governance] What are we up to? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I strongly support Arsène appreciation about Analia. Baudouin Le mardi 7 février 2017, Arsène Tungali a écrit : > Colleagues, > > Last week I sent a call for volunteers to help us with website and > mailing list back up/migration. I would like to thank those who > reached out to me to offer their time and skills. > > We are busy trying to solve this issue with a wonderful team. We hope > to bring to you some good news about a new website and a new mailing > list platform; it is not an easy task but we hope to be done before > March 1st. > > When this is done (hopefully by next month), we will then open a call > for a new Co-co to replace Analia. Apologize for the time it is > taking. > > I would like to use this opportunity to personally thank Analia for > her work for the past two years. She is an amazing person and an > amazing colleague that I was humbled to join as Co-coordinator in > February 2016. Her support was really timely and needed as I was > learning the task of co-coordinating this wonderful community. She > walked me through all I needed, my first steps, in order to play my > role. I learnt a lot from her and I will always be thankful for her > patience, her understanding even when I was very slow in responding or > performing a task. It wasn't easy, her being in South America and me > being in Africa. Time difference was a challenge but we managed to > make things happen as a good team. > > I wish you all the best, Analia. I know you are still around with your > task as Co-chair of the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) where > IGC is a network member. I hope we get to meet (face to face) > somewhere in the near future! > > Best regards, > Arsene > > -- > ------------------------ > **Arsène Tungali** > Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international > *, > CEO,* Smart Services Sarl *, *Mabingwa Forum > * > Tel: +243 993810967 > GPG: 523644A0 > *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* > > 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow > mandela-washington.html> > (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil > leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf- > ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors> > & Mexico > leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>) > - AFRISIG 2016 - Blogger > - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles > & Marrakech > > > ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius > >)* > - *IGFSA Member - The HuffingtonPost UK > > > -- BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE +243813684512 +243998983491 SKYPE ID: b.schombe twitter: @akimambo blog: http://akimambo.unblog.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Application for participation Please submit the Application for Participation at the below Application for Participation if you would like to participate in 2017 APSIG. 2. Fellowship application APSIG Fellowship application is included in the Application Form for Participation. Please note that the application for Fellowship will close on 2017-02-28. Remark APSIG Application without Fellowship will be available until 2017-06-30. For more information, please check 2017 APSIG which is being updated now and APSIG - About as well as other pages at APSIG.asia , or you may contact APSIG Secretariat (APSIG-sec at googlegroups.com). *Application for Participation in 2017 APSIG (including Fellowship Application) * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A great 'state of connectivity' event. ​​ joly posted: "Today, Thursday February 9 2017 the Open Technology Institute will host a half-day forum The Next Three Billion - Initiatives to Bring the Whole World Online in Washington DC. More than four billion people are as yet unconnected around the world. To addre" [image: Open Technology Institute] Today, *Thursday February 9 2017* the* Open Technology Institute * will host a half-day forum *The Next Three Billion - Initiatives to Bring the Whole World Onlin*e in Washington DC. More than four billion people are as yet unconnected around the world. To address the challenge of getting three out of four of them online, one panel will examine “moon shot” global innovations, and another, local community-based networking strategies. Speakers include *Manu Bhardwaj*, *Megan Smith*, *Chris Yoo*, *Steve Song*, and *Robert Pepper*. The event will be webcast live on the *New America YouTube Channel *. * What: The Next Three Billion - Initiatives to Bring the Whole World Online Where: Washington DC When: Thursday February 9 2017 10:00-14:00 EST | 15:00-19:00 UTC Agenda: https://www.newamerica.org/oti/events/next-three-billion/ Webcast: https://youtu.be/Dz9YNJkh9R4 Twitter: t.b.a. maybe #next3billion * Comment See all comments *​Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/8956 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From george.sadowsky at gmail.com Fri Feb 10 14:44:08 2017 From: george.sadowsky at gmail.com (George Sadowsky) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 14:44:08 -0500 Subject: [governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter? In-Reply-To: References: <20170130153646.1fbf78eb@quill> <20170131203212.20daa396@quill> Message-ID: <8CD79188-209C-4CD4-96E8-B2AF971FF445@gmail.com> I found it very instructive to read: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/world/africa/african-nations-increasingly-silence-internet-to-stem-protests.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news for a high level description of the multiple Internet shutdowns in Africa. It's unfortunate that autocratic governments have also discovered the power of the Internet and exercise their ability to control it. In 1994 George Soros addressed the Internet Society annual conference in Prague, saying that the most important question for him at that time was, "how many Internet connections do there have to be into the former Soviet Union (fSU) so that the Internet can never be shut off?" it was an important question at that time for the former communist countries, and Soros dedicated his foundation to invest heavily in infrastructure for the fSU and to connect countries in the the fSU to the west. Since then, Soros' question has been partially addressed by the construction of webs of increasing complexity among countries. Unfortunately much of African is not there yet. George Sadowsky -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The infringing material has now evidently been expurgated,​ and ​ ​a fixed video is no w posted at https://youtu.be/Dz9YNJkh9R4 * *Since it is tagged CC-BY, I plan to run it out on the ISOC Livestream later in the week,​ https://livestream.com/internetsociety On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Joly MacFie wrote: > Unlike NYC, where Thursday has been essentially canceled, snow will be > light in DC so this looks like a go. Along with the regulars noted below, > there will be reps from Google, Microsoft, & Facebook. A great 'state of > connectivity' event. > ​​ > > joly posted: "Today, Thursday February 9 2017 the Open Technology > Institute will host a half-day forum The Next Three Billion - Initiatives > to Bring the Whole World Online in Washington DC. More than four billion > people are as yet unconnected around the world. To addre" > > > > [image: Open Technology Institute] Today, > *Thursday February 9 2017* the* Open Technology Institute > * will host a half-day forum *The Next > Three Billion - Initiatives to Bring the Whole World Onlin*e > in Washington > DC. More than four billion people are as yet unconnected around the world. > To address the challenge of getting three out of four of them online, one > panel will examine “moon shot” global innovations, and another, local > community-based networking strategies. Speakers include *Manu Bhardwaj*, *Megan > Smith*, *Chris Yoo*, *Steve Song*, and *Robert Pepper*. The event will be > webcast live on the *New America YouTube Channel > *. > > > > > > > * What: The Next Three Billion - Initiatives to Bring the Whole World > Online Where: > Washington DC When: Thursday February 9 2017 10:00-14:00 EST | 15:00-19:00 > UTC Agenda: https://www.newamerica.org/oti/events/next-three-billion/ > Webcast: > https://youtu.be/Dz9YNJkh9R4 Twitter: t.b.a. > maybe #next3billion > * > > > Comment See all comments > > > > > > > > *​Permalink* > > http://isoc-ny.org/p2/8956 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 <(218)%20565-9365> Skype:punkcast > -------------------------------------------------------------- > - > -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From joly at punkcast.com Mon Feb 13 11:45:13 2017 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 11:45:13 -0500 Subject: [governance] =?UTF-8?Q?WEBCAST_TODAY=3A_The_Next_Three_Billio?= =?UTF-8?Q?n_=E2=80=93_Initiatives_to_Bring_the_Whole_World_Online?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Aaagh, I reposted the old url! Try this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOtt7Rl1ShA ​Also I will restream later today https://livestream.com/internetsociety/next3billion​ ​You may wonder, why such a fuss? Wait until you see it!​ On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:04 AM, Joly MacFie wrote: > ​ > ​Immediately following the webcast, the video was muted, no doubt because > of YouTube ContentID picking up on some unlicensed music. The infringing > material has now evidently been expurgated,​ and > ​ > ​a fixed video is no > w posted at https://youtu.be/Dz9YNJkh9R4 > > * *Since it is tagged CC-BY, I plan to run > it out on the ISOC Livestream later in the week,​ https://livestream.com/ > internetsociety > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Joly MacFie wrote: > >> Unlike NYC, where Thursday has been essentially canceled, snow will be >> light in DC so this looks like a go. Along with the regulars noted below, >> there will be reps from Google, Microsoft, & Facebook. A great 'state of >> connectivity' event. >> ​​ >> >> joly posted: "Today, Thursday February 9 2017 the Open Technology >> Institute will host a half-day forum The Next Three Billion - Initiatives >> to Bring the Whole World Online in Washington DC. More than four billion >> people are as yet unconnected around the world. To addre" >> >> >> >> [image: Open Technology Institute] Today, >> *Thursday February 9 2017* the* Open Technology Institute >> * will host a half-day forum *The Next >> Three Billion - Initiatives to Bring the Whole World Onlin*e >> in >> Washington DC. More than four billion people are as yet unconnected around >> the world. To address the challenge of getting three out of four of them >> online, one panel will examine “moon shot” global innovations, and another, >> local community-based networking strategies. Speakers include *Manu >> Bhardwaj*, *Megan Smith*, *Chris Yoo*, *Steve Song*, and *Robert Pepper*. >> The event will be webcast live on the *New America YouTube Channel >> *. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * What: The Next Three Billion - Initiatives to Bring the Whole World >> Online Where: >> Washington DC When: Thursday February 9 2017 10:00-14:00 EST | 15:00-19:00 >> UTC Agenda: https://www.newamerica.org/oti/events/next-three-billion/ >> Webcast: >> https://youtu.be/Dz9YNJkh9R4 Twitter: t.b.a. >> maybe #next3billion >> * >> >> >> Comment See all comments >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *​Permalink* >> >> http://isoc-ny.org/p2/8956 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 <(218)%20565-9365> Skype:punkcast >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> > > > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 <(218)%20565-9365> Skype:punkcast > -------------------------------------------------------------- > - > -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iyedigoma at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 14:16:30 2017 From: iyedigoma at gmail.com (Iyedi Goma) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 20:16:30 +0100 Subject: [governance] Announcing new projects In-Reply-To: <109020742.39787.1487096193340@email.1und1.de> References: <109020742.39787.1487096193340@email.1und1.de> Message-ID: Good luck and nice journey for your new project. Best regards Le 14 févr. 2017 7:17 PM, "Lorena Jaume-Palasi" a écrit : > Dear IG community, > > after three exciting and enriching years at the EuroDIG secretariat my new > parallel projects > > - algorithm watch > - IGF Academy > - and the German IGF > > are getting bigger and demand more attention. I wish days would be longer, > but since that is not the case, it is time for me to close this chapter > and thank the EuroDIG secretariat for the experience offered and the > opportunity to bring new things into the process such as > > > - introducing a wiki as a tool to elaborate bottom up on the EuroDIG > programme > - integrating the New Media Summer School, a youth pre-event > connecting youth across the whole European continent into the EuroDIG > programme, and institutionalizing the youth Messages > > So this is not a goodbye but a slightly change of hats :) > > Regards to all, > > Lorena > > Lorena Jaume-Palasí > (former) Director Communications & Youth Engagement > > European Dialogue on Internet Governance (EuroDIG) > office at eurodig.org > www.eurodig.org > > Cel: +49.179.9119 578 <+49%20179%209119578> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Box 95312 2509 CH The Hague Netherlands Stephen.wyber at ifla.org Tel. 00 31 (0)70 314 0756 Fax. 0031 (0)70 383 4827 From: Vacancies Sent: 06 February 2017 14:17 To: ifla-l at infoserv.inist.fr; libjobs at infoserv.inist.fr Subject: Vacancy - Policy and Research Officer, IFLA HQ, The Hague, The Netherlands THE INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION OF LIBRARY ASSOCIATIONS AND INSTITUTIONS (IFLA) IFLA HEADQUARTERS, THE HAGUE, THE NETHERLANDS Vacancy Statement Policy and Research Officer The International Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA) is looking for a new Policy and Research Officer to work on Internet governance and digital issues. The Internet plays an indispensable role in achieving key library objectives - access to information, freedom of expression, individual empowerment. But for it to do so, risks must be managed. The open architecture of the Internet is challenged by both public and private actors. Individuals face threats to their privacy from companies and governments. For more information on key areas of responsibilities, and how to apply, please visit www.ifla.org/node/11190 The closing date is 27 February 2017. Due to the high volume of applications we are expecting to receive, interested candidates are advised to submit their applications as soon as possible. Kind regards, Renu Sardjoe Mishre IFLA Business Manager vacancies at ifla.org IFLA Headquarters P.O. Box 95312 Phone: +31-70-3140884 2509 CH The Hague Fax: +31-70-3834827 Netherlands Web: www.ifla.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can register for the Feb 28 briefing here . joly posted: "The GIP Digital Watch Internet governance briefings provide a 'zoomed-out' update of the major global IG and digital policy developments. View the re-stream of the January 31 2017 briefing for a round-up of the major global IG and digital policy developme" ​​ [image: livestream] The *GIP Digital Watch Internet governance briefings * provide a 'zoomed-out' update of the major global IG and digital policy developments. View the re-stream of the *January 31 2017 briefing * for a round-up of the major global IG and digital policy developments. Local hubs in Rio de Janeiro and Tunis share regional perspectives. *View on Livestream*: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/gipdwjan17 *Twitter*: #thegip https://twitter.com/hashtag/theGIP Comment See all comments *​Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/8979 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Internet Society President & CEO *Kathy Brown* will be in attendance. The event will be webcast live on the *Internet Society Livestream Channel *. *View on Livestream*: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/carib Comment See all comments *​Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/8989 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please send the documents that you want to give us. Best regards Le 28 déc. 2016 19:20, "Yuliya Morenets" a écrit : > Dear all, > > Please apologize for the internal communication which was sent to the list > by accident. > > With our apologizes and thanks again, Yuliya > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From raquino at gmail.com Sat Feb 25 09:14:18 2017 From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:14:18 -0300 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Course on Political Innovation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's a great initiative, I'll certainly try to follow Em 24/02/2017 17:49, "Antonella Perini" escreveu: > Dear colleagues, > > I want to share with you all that Asuntos del Sur, the organization I > participate in, has opened inscriptions for the first course on Political > Innovation. It is the outcome of our research and field work since 2012 > with activists, civil society organizations, emerging political leaders and > more actors who are changing the way we do politics and who are using > digital technologies to do so. > > The Spanish version starts on March 13th. There will be a Portuguese > version and, hopefully, we’ll have an English version as well ;) > > The main modules are: Society in transformation, Open and participative > public management, and Collaborative, inclusive and sustainable economy. > Among the teachers: Matias Bianchi (Asuntos del Sur), Carolina Botero > (Fundación Karisma), Pablo Collada (Ciudadano Inteligente), Álvaro > Ramírez-Alujas (GIGAPP), Yamila García (Fundación Conocimiento Abierto), > Ramón Ramón (PNUD, CEPAL, OEA), Betilde Muñoz (OEA) and Henny Freitas (Red > CASA, EarthCode Project). > > I invite you to know a little bit more about the project at http:// > academiainnovacionpolitica.org/diplomado-en-innovacion-politica/ and > twitter.com/AdInnovaPol , and help as spread the word among those who you > think might be interested in the course. > > For any question please address to info at academiainnovacionpolitica.org > > Have a great weekend! > > Antonella > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 6:14 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote: > That's a great initiative, I'll certainly try to follow > > Em 24/02/2017 17:49, "Antonella Perini" escreveu: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I want to share with you all that Asuntos del Sur, the organization I >> participate in, has opened inscriptions for the first course on Political >> Innovation. It is the outcome of our research and field work since 2012 >> with activists, civil society organizations, emerging political leaders and >> more actors who are changing the way we do politics and who are using >> digital technologies to do so. >> >> The Spanish version starts on March 13th. There will be a Portuguese >> version and, hopefully, we’ll have an English version as well ;) >> >> The main modules are: Society in transformation, Open and participative >> public management, and Collaborative, inclusive and sustainable economy. >> Among the teachers: Matias Bianchi (Asuntos del Sur), Carolina Botero >> (Fundación Karisma), Pablo Collada (Ciudadano Inteligente), Álvaro >> Ramírez-Alujas (GIGAPP), Yamila García (Fundación Conocimiento Abierto), >> Ramón Ramón (PNUD, CEPAL, OEA), Betilde Muñoz (OEA) and Henny Freitas (Red >> CASA, EarthCode Project). >> >> I invite you to know a little bit more about the project at >> http://academiainnovacionpolitica.org/diplomado-en-innovacion-politica/ >> and twitter.com/AdInnovaPol , and help as spread the word among those >> who you think might be interested in the course. >> >> For any question please address to info at academiainnovacionpolitica.org >> >> Have a great weekend! >> >> Antonella >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- *Akinremi Peter Taiwo* [ West Africa Coordinator ] African Civil Society on Information Society (*ACSIS*) *Website: *www.acsis-scasi.org *E*xecutive Consultant. [ Compsoftnet Enterprise ] Nigeria *T*echnical Consultant [ RetailPoint ] Lagos Website: www.retailpos.com.ng *W*eb Master [ Internet Governance Caucus ] Website: www.igcaucus.org *Phone:* +2347-0638-30177, +2348-1874-76292 *twitter:* @compsoftnet *Skype:* akinremi.peter *Office:* Off old Ota Road, Alagbado,Lagos * Quote: *If you do not trust yourself, how can you trust others. *Quote:* People speaks from their perspective, does it mean they are right? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Arsene, IGC Co coordinator > From: "Richard Hill" > Date: February 27, 2017 at 5:05:41 AM EST > To: "'Arsène Tungali'" , "'CSCG'" > Cc: "'Sheetal Kumar'" , "'Analia Aspis'" , "'Norbert Bollow'" , "'David Cake'" , "'Jeremy Malcolm'" , "'parminder'" , "'Chat Garcia Ramilo'" , "'Poncelet Ileleji'" > Subject: FW: CSWG nominations for IGF MAG renewal > > FYI. > > Please forward as appropriate. > > Best, > Richard > > From: Chengetai Masango [mailto:cmasango at unog.ch] > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 08:53 > To: rhill at hill-a.ch > Subject: CSWG nominations for IGF MAG renewal > > Dear Richard, > > Just to let you know the MAG 2017 is about to be announcement. > > As no Civil Society MAG member is being rotated out, there will be no new Civil Society MAG member being added. > (Amelia Andersdotter came in as a Government member (she was a MEP) and her designation was changed when she left the European Parliament. Her seat now goes away.) > > If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. > > I would also like to take this opportunity to thank the CSWG for their active participation in this process. > > Best regards, > > Chengetai > > Chengetai Masango > Programme and Technology Manager > Secretariat of the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) > Dependance La Pelouse > Palais des Nations > CH – 1211 Genève 10 > Switzerland > e-mail: cmasango at unog.ch > http://www.intgovforum.org/ > Tel : +41(0)22 917 57 68 > Fax : +41(0)22 917 00 92 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gpaque at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 11:07:22 2017 From: gpaque at gmail.com (Ginger Paque) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 10:07:22 -0600 Subject: [governance] IGF open consultation and MAG meeting this week! Attend online -- register now Message-ID: I'm hoping to see many of you at the OC/MAG meetings starting tomorrow... Great news! Registration for online participation is now available (and required) for the upcoming OC/MAG meeting, as a full meeting participant (online). Users who have already registered as on-site participants must re-register as online participants to access the online system. *I think it will be helpful to spread this information widely, so online participants are aware of the process. http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/ * The process uses a quick registration for users logged in to the IGF site. This one-click registration takes basic data, such as name, Stakeholder Group, Nationality and Organization, got from the registrant's user profile on the IGF website. Then, the system "invites" the registered user to access the room with their registered name (so as to be recognised, in order to take the floor). The system does require registration on the IGF website as a user, a one-time process to include your full information. This system allows the site include the online participant in the participants' list, ordered and classified, similarly as onsite participants. Very importantly, it also allows inclusion of remote participants in meeting statistics, including aspects such as online participants stakeholder groups, etc. and for follow-up in panels and discussion groups. *Part of me balks at the requirement to register*, but it follows UN requirements (and common sense), and allows identification of those making comments (same as in the room). Equal footing has its trade-offs. I had to remind myself that less formal events also require registration using Eventbrite or similar platforms. *A heads-up: It looks like a webcast will not be available for this meeting*, due to technical and room resources/scheduling/setup. This means the webcast will only be available through WebEx. The tech team is currently trying to ensure that the webcast, audio, and live captioning will all be embedded in the WebEx platform. The recording will be available after the meeting, as usual, and every effort is being made to ensure that future meetings include a live webcast. Online registration will not close before the meeting. It's an added step, and added control, but it is important in order to allow online participants to speak up and be recognized -- meaning they/we must be identifiable, same as onsite participants. . This is a reasonable requirement for a UN level meeting, and will take another step to institutionalising and legitimising online participation. Much appreciation to the IGF Secretariat, and to Luis Bobo, for their work to include full online participation. Now it's up to all of us to work on workshop design and strategy to make full use of online participation for inclusion. I hope to see you online tomorrow, Best wishes, Ginger Virginia Paque DiploFoundation *Upcoming courses: * Master in Contemporary Diplomacy; Education Diplomacy; Consular and Diaspora Diplomacy; Cybersecurity; Development Diplomacy; Economic Diplomacy; Language and Diplomacy http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses * * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mike.oghia at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 11:17:00 2017 From: mike.oghia at gmail.com (Michael Oghia) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 17:17:00 +0100 Subject: [governance] IGF open consultation and MAG meeting this week! Attend online -- register now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ginger, Thanks for sharing this information, I really appreciate it! Best, -Michael __________________ Michael J. Oghia iGmena communications manager Independent #netgov consultant & editor Belgrade, Serbia Skype: mikeoghia Twitter *|* LinkedIn On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Ginger Paque wrote: > I'm hoping to see many of you at the OC/MAG meetings starting tomorrow... > > Great news! Registration for online participation is now available (and > required) for the upcoming OC/MAG meeting, as a full meeting participant > (online). Users who have already registered as on-site participants must > re-register as online participants to access the online system. *I think > it will be helpful to spread this information widely, so online > participants are aware of the process. > http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/ > * > > The process uses a quick registration for users logged in to the IGF site. > This one-click registration takes basic data, such as name, Stakeholder > Group, Nationality and Organization, got from the registrant's user profile > on the IGF website. Then, the system "invites" the registered user to > access the room with their registered name (so as to be recognised, in > order to take the floor). The system does require registration on the IGF > website as a user, a one-time process to include your full information. > > This system allows the site include the online participant in the > participants' list, ordered and classified, similarly as onsite > participants. Very importantly, it also allows inclusion of remote > participants in meeting statistics, including aspects such as online > participants stakeholder groups, etc. and for follow-up in panels and > discussion groups. > > *Part of me balks at the requirement to register*, but it follows UN > requirements (and common sense), and allows identification of those making > comments (same as in the room). Equal footing has its trade-offs. I had to > remind myself that less formal events also require registration using > Eventbrite or similar platforms. > > *A heads-up: It looks like a webcast will not be available for this > meeting*, due to technical and room resources/scheduling/setup. This > means the webcast will only be available through WebEx. The tech team is > currently trying to ensure that the webcast, audio, and live captioning > will all be embedded in the WebEx platform. The recording will be available > after the meeting, as usual, and every effort is being made to ensure that > future meetings include a live webcast. > > Online registration will not close before the meeting. > > It's an added step, and added control, but it is important in order to > allow online participants to speak up and be recognized -- meaning they/we > must be identifiable, same as onsite participants. . This is a reasonable > requirement for a UN level meeting, and will take another step to > institutionalising and legitimising online participation. > > Much appreciation to the IGF Secretariat, and to Luis Bobo, for their work > to include full online participation. > > Now it's up to all of us to work on workshop design and strategy to make > full use of online participation for inclusion. > > I hope to see you online tomorrow, > Best wishes, > Ginger > Virginia Paque > DiploFoundation > > *Upcoming courses: * Master in Contemporary Diplomacy; Education > Diplomacy; Consular and Diaspora Diplomacy; Cybersecurity; Development > Diplomacy; Economic Diplomacy; Language and Diplomacy http://www.diplomacy > .edu/courses > > > * * > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jmalcolm at eff.org Tue Feb 28 14:24:21 2017 From: jmalcolm at eff.org (Jeremy Malcolm) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 11:24:21 -0800 Subject: [governance] New Dynamic Coalition on Trade and the Internet Message-ID: <809d7ff2-7ce4-cd5d-0ae7-951a99c32fa3@eff.org> The IGF Secretariat has just formally approved the formation of a new Dynamic Coalition on Trade and the Internet. Its website is at https://opendigital.trade/projects/dc-trade and its mailing list is at https://opendigital.trade/mailman/listinfo/dc-trade. The formation of the Dynamic Coalition was motivated by the fact that many Internet governance issues that are discussed at the IGF are also the subject of rulemaking through bilateral, plurilateral and multilateral trade agreements. The purpose of this Dynamic Coalition is to provide an interface for the exchange of information and best practices between the negotiators of these trade agreements and the bodies in which they work, and the Internet Governance Forum and its multi-stakeholder community. This information exchange will be both substantive (that is, concerning particular Internet public policy issues) and also procedural (that is, about how Internet public policy can be developed in a transparent and inclusive way). Our provisional 2017 action plan is: 1. To publish a background paper describing the major trade agreements that are in place or under negotiation, as well as the venues where this takes place, and identifying the key Internet governance issues that are the subject of such agreements and negotiations. 2. To develop a multi-stakeholder approach to facilitating the transparency and inclusiveness in international trade negotiations and the domestic consultation processes. 3. To build a network of representatives from trade institutions and delegations for liaison with our Dynamic Coalition and the broader IGF community. 4. To hold our inaugural meeting at the 2017 IGF in Geneva to present our outputs to the IGF community. If you are interested to join, please do so by joining the mailing list. If you also wish to participate in our web platform (highly recommended!) you should also separately register an account at https://opendigital.trade. -- Jeremy Malcolm Senior Global Policy Analyst Electronic Frontier Foundation https://eff.org jmalcolm at eff.org Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt PGP fingerprint: 75D2 4C0D 35EA EA2F 8CA8 8F79 4911 EC4A EDDF 1122 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Attend online -- register now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Acknowledged Ginger Remmy On Feb 28, 2017 5:09 PM, "Ginger Paque" wrote: > I'm hoping to see many of you at the OC/MAG meetings starting tomorrow... > > Great news! Registration for online participation is now available (and > required) for the upcoming OC/MAG meeting, as a full meeting participant > (online). Users who have already registered as on-site participants must > re-register as online participants to access the online system. *I think > it will be helpful to spread this information widely, so online > participants are aware of the process. > http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/ > * > > The process uses a quick registration for users logged in to the IGF site. > This one-click registration takes basic data, such as name, Stakeholder > Group, Nationality and Organization, got from the registrant's user profile > on the IGF website. Then, the system "invites" the registered user to > access the room with their registered name (so as to be recognised, in > order to take the floor). The system does require registration on the IGF > website as a user, a one-time process to include your full information. > > This system allows the site include the online participant in the > participants' list, ordered and classified, similarly as onsite > participants. Very importantly, it also allows inclusion of remote > participants in meeting statistics, including aspects such as online > participants stakeholder groups, etc. and for follow-up in panels and > discussion groups. > > *Part of me balks at the requirement to register*, but it follows UN > requirements (and common sense), and allows identification of those making > comments (same as in the room). Equal footing has its trade-offs. I had to > remind myself that less formal events also require registration using > Eventbrite or similar platforms. > > *A heads-up: It looks like a webcast will not be available for this > meeting*, due to technical and room resources/scheduling/setup. This > means the webcast will only be available through WebEx. The tech team is > currently trying to ensure that the webcast, audio, and live captioning > will all be embedded in the WebEx platform. The recording will be available > after the meeting, as usual, and every effort is being made to ensure that > future meetings include a live webcast. > > Online registration will not close before the meeting. > > It's an added step, and added control, but it is important in order to > allow online participants to speak up and be recognized -- meaning they/we > must be identifiable, same as onsite participants. . This is a reasonable > requirement for a UN level meeting, and will take another step to > institutionalising and legitimising online participation. > > Much appreciation to the IGF Secretariat, and to Luis Bobo, for their work > to include full online participation. > > Now it's up to all of us to work on workshop design and strategy to make > full use of online participation for inclusion. > > I hope to see you online tomorrow, > Best wishes, > Ginger > Virginia Paque > DiploFoundation > > *Upcoming courses: * Master in Contemporary Diplomacy; Education > Diplomacy; Consular and Diaspora Diplomacy; Cybersecurity; Development > Diplomacy; Economic Diplomacy; Language and Diplomacy http://www. > diplomacy.edu/courses > > > * * > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Tue Feb 28 17:42:39 2017 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 09:42:39 +1100 Subject: [governance] IGF open consultation and MAG meeting this week! Attend online -- register now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Ginger. This answers my questions around online participation especially since it wasn't clear when registering for the event a week ago. Cheers, Tomslin On 1 March 2017 at 03:07, Ginger Paque wrote: > I'm hoping to see many of you at the OC/MAG meetings starting tomorrow... > > Great news! Registration for online participation is now available (and > required) for the upcoming OC/MAG meeting, as a full meeting participant > (online). Users who have already registered as on-site participants must > re-register as online participants to access the online system. *I think > it will be helpful to spread this information widely, so online > participants are aware of the process. > http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/ > * > > The process uses a quick registration for users logged in to the IGF site. > This one-click registration takes basic data, such as name, Stakeholder > Group, Nationality and Organization, got from the registrant's user profile > on the IGF website. Then, the system "invites" the registered user to > access the room with their registered name (so as to be recognised, in > order to take the floor). The system does require registration on the IGF > website as a user, a one-time process to include your full information. > > This system allows the site include the online participant in the > participants' list, ordered and classified, similarly as onsite > participants. Very importantly, it also allows inclusion of remote > participants in meeting statistics, including aspects such as online > participants stakeholder groups, etc. and for follow-up in panels and > discussion groups. > > *Part of me balks at the requirement to register*, but it follows UN > requirements (and common sense), and allows identification of those making > comments (same as in the room). Equal footing has its trade-offs. I had to > remind myself that less formal events also require registration using > Eventbrite or similar platforms. > > *A heads-up: It looks like a webcast will not be available for this > meeting*, due to technical and room resources/scheduling/setup. This > means the webcast will only be available through WebEx. The tech team is > currently trying to ensure that the webcast, audio, and live captioning > will all be embedded in the WebEx platform. The recording will be available > after the meeting, as usual, and every effort is being made to ensure that > future meetings include a live webcast. > > Online registration will not close before the meeting. > > It's an added step, and added control, but it is important in order to > allow online participants to speak up and be recognized -- meaning they/we > must be identifiable, same as onsite participants. . This is a reasonable > requirement for a UN level meeting, and will take another step to > institutionalising and legitimising online participation. > > Much appreciation to the IGF Secretariat, and to Luis Bobo, for their work > to include full online participation. > > Now it's up to all of us to work on workshop design and strategy to make > full use of online participation for inclusion. > > I hope to see you online tomorrow, > Best wishes, > Ginger > Virginia Paque > DiploFoundation > > *Upcoming courses: * Master in Contemporary Diplomacy; Education > Diplomacy; Consular and Diaspora Diplomacy; Cybersecurity; Development > Diplomacy; Economic Diplomacy; Language and Diplomacy http://www. > diplomacy.edu/courses > > > * * > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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