[governance] On the death of neo-liberalism

[willi uebelherr]

Dear Milton,

because you wrote:
"At any rate it's hard to argue with the record of liberalization in 
telecommunications and information. Unless you want to go back to those 
wonderful days of state-owned monopolies, 2% penetration and 4 year 
waiting lists for a line. The state-owned PTT is the epitome of a 
non-neoliberal approach so I hope you are willing to stand up for that 
paradigm or if not, bite the bullet and admit that a competitive market 
economy has much to offer for development"

You don't see the real alternative. Not state or private market are the 
alternatives. That are the same. The community networks are the alternative.

We have a clear perspective:
"From a technical standpoint, the original shared vision guiding the 
Internet’s development was that every device on the Internet should be 
able to exchange data packets with any other device that was willing to 
receive them."

Future of the Internet Initiative White Paper
Internet Fragmentation: An Overview
Vinton Cerf, William Drake, Wolfgang Kleinwaechter
http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_FII_Internet_Fragmentation_An_Overview_2016.pdf

With a private market or state control it is impossible. And also 
impossible is the development of our technical systems for that with 
this two actors. Because, they don't like this perspectives. Only the 
people, activ in her local community networks, can realize it.

many greetings, willi
Manaus, Brasil


Am 01/06/2016 um 12:11 schrieb Mueller, Milton L:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-
>> request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Anriette Esterhuysen
>>
>> Market-fundamentalist approaches to development and planning will stay
>> around for a long time. They fit so well with the culture of corruption and
>> focus on personal gain that many governments are practicing that it will be
>> really hard to get rid of this approach - even if it is not explictly part of policy.
>
> This is not a very accurate statement, Anriette
>
> Corruption is strongly associated with state-control and licensing of industries. Take a look at Brazil's current drama with its state-owned oil company. Or, worse, Venezuela. Entities not subject to the discipline of market forces are far more likely to rely on privilege and corruption to get things done.
>
> It's odd that you call market liberalism "market fundamentalism." While it is true that some simple-minded folks turned liberal political economy into a formula/dogma, sometimes misapplied, what I see MUCH more often is that opposition to market forces among certain civil society groups is religious and fundamentalist. It is knee-jerk and not based on any empirical facts or understanding of economics.
>
> At any rate it's hard to argue with the record of liberalization in telecommunications and information. Unless you want to go back to those wonderful days of state-owned monopolies, 2% penetration and 4 year waiting lists for a line. The state-owned PTT is the epitome of a non-neoliberal approach so I hope you are willing to stand up for that paradigm or if not, bite the bullet and admit that a competitive market economy has much to offer for development
>
>
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