[governance] Urgent: Few announcements before the CS MAG 2017 Nomination process
Analia Aspis
analia.aspis at gmail.com
Thu Dec 1 10:01:54 EST 2016
Thanks very much Deidre.
Do we have already a deadline for sending self-nominations?
Best,
Analía
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Deirdre Williams <
williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
> A day is not a very long time to wait for comments, but I think it's all
> we can spare at the moment. And since there has been no objection I am
> assuming that IGC will countenance me as a substitute for Analia and Arsene
> to manage the call for nominations within the IGC, and to represent the IGC
> in place of Arsene during the CSCG selection process ON THIS OCCASION ONLY.
> Lee asks how this would fit in the framework of the IGC Charter. I would
> suggest that the Mission:
>
> Mission
>
> The mission of the Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) is to provide a forum
> for discussion, advocacy, action, and for representation of civil society
> contributions in Internet governance processes. The caucus intends to
> provide an open and effective forum for civil society to share opinion,
> policy options and expertise on Internet governance issues, and to provide
> a mechanism for coordination of advocacy to enhance the utilization and
> influence of Civil Society (CS) and the IGC in relevant policy processes.
>
> supports the urgency of the need for an appropriate arrangement to allow
> IGC to be part of the CSCG selection process
>
> Under Decisions (later in the Charter) there is this provision:
>
> If neither of the IGC coordinators can be physically present in
> face-to-face meetings, they will delegate coordination to another
> participant of such events. This delegation should, if possible, be made
> before the meeting and with the advice of the caucus.
>
> Although this provision refers to a rather different situation, it seems
> reasonable that it could be applied in this case. The delegation is being
> made before the CSCG process begins, and the IGC appears to be giving its
> support by offering no objections.
>
> And the delegation to me is being made to the "immediate past
> co-coordinator" and so to the most recent person, apart from Analia and
> Arsene, to have been endorsed by an IGC voting process.
>
> (References above from http://igcaucus.org/charter)
>
> I will represent IGC to the best of my ability. However I would remind you
> that to make this representation effective IGC members will have to advise
> me by registering a response to nominations when they are made, and while
> +1 is helpful, a brief "reason why" helps even more.
>
> Meanwhile, and with Wisdom's knowledge, I would agree with the proposal
> that the issue of "representing civil society" is better discussed when
> this selection process has been completed, with the proviso that nominees
> should be absolutely clear that the current process is to select a MAG
> member who will represent the "civil society" perspective.
>
> Thank you for trusting me again.
>
> Deirdre
>
> (PS A correction to Arsene's message. "This means Deidre will be
> temporarily IGC Coordinator." This is not the case. My function is limited
> to the MAG nominations, and the CSCG selection process. Analia and Arsene
> continue to be the IGC co-coordinators for everyday business of the caucus.)
>
> On 30 November 2016 at 10:44, Analia Aspis <analia.aspis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Lee,
>>
>> Thanks for your comments. 2 points:
>>
>> 1. CSCG has decided not to accept Wisdom as IGC representative upong CSCG
>> for this election. This is a decition taken within CSCG. In a normal
>> scenario, Arsene would have replace him, since CSCG decitions for CS MAG
>> selection requires only one represent for each coalition. Since Arsene ins
>> self-nominating himself (and so do I), both Arsene and I, plus all CSCG
>> coaltions has decided that Deidre, as former co-chair would be a neutral
>> profile for such role.
>>
>> 2. Secondly, any IGC member who is representing Gov at MAG, for obvious
>> reasons, is not able to represent CS at the same time. The sprit of the IGC
>> charter is to envolve CS. This does not mean that Wisdom cannot participate
>> in our debates. It does only mean that for this particular role he should
>> excuse himself, since transparency of the process is involved. A Gov MAG
>> representative is, indeed, representing goverments interest which are
>> different for CS interest.
>>
>> 3. We will have time to discuss in IGC about it. We are just focusing in
>> this particular deadline and then concentrate our energy for an open debate
>>
>> I hope this clarifies the scenario.
>>
>> Analía
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Lee W McKnight <lmcknigh at syr.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> Understanding everyone is acting with the best intent on short
>>> deadlines:
>>>
>>>
>>> I encourage someone close to the process to review the IGC Charter
>>> quickly and prepare a brief couple line note on how this fits within the
>>> framework.
>>>
>>>
>>> Or, if it doesn't quite fit and a quick acclamation/affirmation
>>> of Deirdre re-stepping up (thanks Deirdre!) is useful, then that could be
>>> suggested. (Hopefully not deemed necessary.)
>>>
>>>
>>> As I recall we have been flexible to accommodate circumstances in past
>>> so believe this does not fall outside de facto if not de jure precedents.
>>>
>>>
>>> But just for procedural clarity...please.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lee
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org <
>>> governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org> on behalf of Analia Aspis <
>>> analia.aspis at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:35 AM
>>> *To:* <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>; Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>> *Subject:* Re: [governance] Urgent: Few announcements before the CS MAG
>>> 2017 Nomination process
>>>
>>> Thanks Renata and Akinremi Peter for your comments.
>>>
>>> I do share your opinions Renata, from my point of view.
>>>
>>> And with regard Wisdom's role, the decision to get a replacement until
>>> this is solved, was taken at the CSCG, by the two co-chairs (Richard Hill
>>> and Analía Aspis) and with fully support of all the members, and of course,
>>> prior information to Wisdom.
>>>
>>> However, as Arsene said, we will disucss this issue openly after CS MAG
>>> process. We do have all the information of this prior SOI and all tracking
>>> of the mails.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Analía
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>>> raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I think Peter has good questions there.
>>>>
>>>> Also I'd like to address earlier messages on open/closed MAG renewal
>>>> process. As CSCG is now getting involved, I see the process as almost
>>>> a repeat of the IGF retreat procedures, where CSCG was involved but a
>>>> form was also created to send in names. CSCG did its process in a
>>>> public manner and I am in favor of supporting openness for
>>>> transparency. When the names get to UN Secretariat, the process is
>>>> then closed. The UN has a vetting process, it is good that this
>>>> exists, but yes, studying how to make this process open is a
>>>> challenge. The process of MAG renewal is not only for CS so other
>>>> stakeholders would have also to be willing to re-examine process and
>>>> this takes a coordination effort I'm not sure can be done.
>>>>
>>>> It is good that CSCG is now getting involved with the CS process.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Arsene and Analia for publicly sharing the info of your intent
>>>> to run for MAG renewal and recusing yourselves from CSCG momentarily
>>>> for the sake of transparency.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Deirdre for volunteering to take over CSCG responsibilities
>>>> temporarily.
>>>>
>>>> Time is of the essence since MAG Renewal only goes until 16dec
>>>>
>>>> Wisdom is someone who has fought CS battles many times but does have
>>>> the cap of government on the IGF MAG so, indeed, there is a conflict
>>>> when it comes to CSCG but I do hope this is a step away only from CSCG
>>>> coordination rather than being a collaborator with civil society as
>>>> whole. Civil society needs those willing to collaborate as we are all
>>>> volunteers, sometimes overstretched ones.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Renata
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 4:08 AM, Akinremi Peter Taiwo
>>>> <compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Do we have provision for this in the IGC chater? Was there not enough
>>>> > information in the Statement of interest of Wisdom when vying to
>>>> represent
>>>> > the interest of IGC on CSCG, How do we called this? Was there no
>>>> background
>>>> > check at all to have know the position of candidates in the poll
>>>> before
>>>> > elect.
>>>> >
>>>> > Best
>>>> > Peter.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 5:47 AM, Arsène Tungali <
>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dear all,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Please read this carefully, there are some important updates. This
>>>> is an
>>>> >> unusual situation, so hope I will be clear enough when trying to
>>>> explain it:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 1. Both Analia and myself (Arsene) will be nominating
>>>> ourselves for
>>>> >> the Civil Society MAG 2017 position. In that sense, since we are
>>>> both IGC
>>>> >> Co-coordinators, we cannot oversee the nomination process on the IGC
>>>> list;
>>>> >> we need to recuse ourselves for a short period of time to allow a
>>>> fair,
>>>> >> transparent selection process.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> That’s why we have contacted Mrs. Deidre Williams (former IGC
>>>> >> Co-coordinator) to support us during this period until the selection
>>>> process
>>>> >> is concluded (up to 10 days). This means Deidre will be temporarily
>>>> IGC
>>>> >> Coordinator.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2. The CSCG (Civil Society Coordination Group, where IGC is a
>>>> >> member) has decided to temporarily (until we gather more details and
>>>> make an
>>>> >> appropriate decision) to remove Mr. Wisdom Donkor (current 2nd IGC
>>>> Rep on
>>>> >> CSCG) from the Civil Society (CS) selection discussions given that
>>>> we found
>>>> >> out that he is representing the Government in the current MAG.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In that sense, since he cannot represent both CS and Government at
>>>> the
>>>> >> same time and to avoid any possible conflict of interest, he will not
>>>> >> represent IGC on the CSCG for now. We will start discussing his case
>>>> within
>>>> >> the IGC after we have gathered more information for an appropriate
>>>> decision.
>>>> >> Until then, Deidre Williams will be our 2nd IGC Representative on
>>>> the CSCG.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We welcome Deidre (again) and leave it to her to conduct the
>>>> consultations
>>>> >> and quick start the nomination process.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Should you have any question or need any clarification on the above,
>>>> >> please do not hesitate to come back to me.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Arsene
>>>> >>
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