[governance] [bestbits] Nominations for IGF closing and opening speakers

Seth Johnson seth.p.johnson at gmail.com
Thu Oct 29 10:54:59 EDT 2015


I generally avoid appeals to "balance" in the international arena.
Get some actual fundamental rights first; then balance might be a real
discussion.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Deirdre Williams
<williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
> Can we add those freedoms to what we are struggling for?
> And commit individually and as a group to a "measured and balanced
> response"?
> I certainly hope so. And I do.
> Deirdre
>
> On 29 October 2015 at 09:29, Seth Johnson <seth.p.johnson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Plus: the right to have root on your own general purpose computing
>> device.  And to put your own keys there (rather than, say, Apple's).
>>
>>
>> Seth
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Deirdre Williams
>> <williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > This is why the "human right" that concerns me most at the moment is the
>> > right to say no, the right to choose, the right to differ.
>> > Somewhere the sense that we have the freedom NOT to click has got lost
>> > in a
>> > compulsion that "this is the only way". "If I don't have Facebook I'll
>> > lose
>> > touch with my family." "This is a 'must have' app". These statements are
>> > still NOT TRUE, and we should not allow them to become true.
>> > Admittedly when recently I posted a letter to Barbados, just over 100
>> > miles
>> > away, I was told that the letter would arrive "in the next two weeks",
>> > but
>> > it did arrive.
>> > Without the internet the selection procedure which gave this thread its
>> > subject would not have been possible within the time, but it would still
>> > have been possible. Might have taken a year or two, but we could have
>> > done
>> > it. :-)
>> > We are supposed to be using the tool, not the tool using us.
>> > We have a choice and we should exercise it before it atrophies and
>> > disappears.
>> > Deirdre
>> >
>> > On 29 October 2015 at 02:29, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Those are applications that
>> >>
>> >> 1. You choose to install
>> >> 2. You choose to specifically grant those permissions to
>> >>
>> >> On 29-Oct-2015, at 11:28 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Avast CEO shared analysis done by company of top 100 applications on
>> >> Android in the month of September.
>> >>
>> >> As per the analysis, 99 per cent of these applications have entire
>> >> control
>> >> of mobile phone which means they remotely operate phone as a user does
>> >> and
>> >> 92 per cent can view network connections.
>> >>
>> >> One out of 10 of top 100 applications can record audio and take
>> >> pictures
>> >> and videos and 9 out of 10 are able to read storage content which can
>> >> modify
>> >> or delete, as per the report.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> > William
>> > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979
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