[governance] A lot of people here will likely disagree

Nick Ashton-Hart nashton at consensus.pro
Sun Oct 11 10:33:43 EDT 2015


Dear Deirdre, thank you for taking the time to send such a wise and constructive post. I for one was very glad to read it.

regards, Nick

> On 11 Oct 2015, at 14:58, Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Suresh and Everyone,
> I've been wondering about Suresh's subject line. Of course it's the truth. A lot of us do disagree, which is surely the raison d'etre for the IGC.
> I have an appeal to make.
> Each person writing to this list - please, before you press send, read what you have written and ask yourself whether, if you received such a ,message, you would be hurt or offended. If the answer is yes then please try to edit what you have written for the list. If your intention was to hurt and offend then send that message directly to its intended recipient.
> And when you read the messages - try not to assume that hurt and offense were the writer's intention. Some years ago I told my husband not to be "daft" in circumstances in which for me it was a "hug word" - a word to comfort and give support. He didn't speak to me for what felt like 3 months. The word has different connotations in his culture. Anger about something else is good at blinding one to everything.
> This list is supposed to be about discussing issues, not providing a space for the clash of personalities.
> Suresh suggests that "Engaging in debate would be useful". I wholeheartedly agree with him. And to be really useful the debate must be as inclusive as possible. Civil society is not only "those people who share my perspective". Civil society is all of us. To be effective it needs to be united and therefore all of those very difficult issues about which we may hold very contradictory views need to be patiently discussed and negotiated until we can reach some sort of "civil society" position.
> It is very much in the interest of some parties in this global debate that civil society should be divided and ruled.
> We have the power to stop this, but it will need self-discipline and patience.
> Deirdre
> 
> On 5 October 2015 at 22:46, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net <mailto:suresh at hserus.net>> wrote:
> But it's interesting to see an articulate voice advocate "the other side" and call out some of the commentary on this issue as  ill informed and politically aimed rhetoric
> 
> Engaging in debate would be useful so the author of this piece can get a more informed : balanced and less politically driven perspective of neutrality
> 
> http://m.hindustantimes.com/columns/net-neutrality-war-is-not-just-facebook-versus-internet-mullahs/story-s9eZpZnomaaiz4De8fYfaK.html <http://m.hindustantimes.com/columns/net-neutrality-war-is-not-just-facebook-versus-internet-mullahs/story-s9eZpZnomaaiz4De8fYfaK.html>
> 
> --srs
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