[governance] Joana's speech

Tue Nov 17 13:18:32 EST 2015

Sorry for this second posting due to a missed sentence

Thanks and congratulations to Joana for her speech and her (soft but expressive) protest regarding UN police intervention.

Joana asked the question : How was WSIS in the early times?

I would remind the WSIS Geneva Summit in December 2003 when Swiss police brutally repressed the protesting NGOs in the city. These NGOs were forbidden to access the UN/Palexpo "official area" because the ITU, the organizing UN Agency of this Summit, considered some of them as illegal and therefore didn't accredit them. A very quetionable attitude. Among these NGO was Reporters without Borders, as you may know a highly criminal organsisation !!!  

The CS in a special Plenary session firmly protested through a written communiqué against such an inadmissible situation. However, CS was far from beng unanimous about the wording of the communiqué .... It was finallly adopted by a relative majority. There was a strong minority (I's among them) for proposing to meet and discuss with "extenal protesters" but this proposal was finally rejected. These were turbulent times in the CS WSIS activities ...

It is worth recalling that even the PrepCom president, Adama Samasékou, was opposed to accept "loud protesting NGOs" in the WSIS process, arguing that WSIS isn't a place for them. Instead, only moderate/wise (restrained?) NGOs have their place there. Of course this also was the opinion/position of the WSIS Secretariate.

Best regards

Jean-Louis Fullsack

> Message du 17/11/15 17:29
> De : joana at varonferraz.com
> A : "Carlos A. Afonso" , governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> Copie à : "" , "Renata Aquino Ribeiro" 
> Objet : Re: [governance] Joana's speech
> 
>
Dear all,

Thanks a lot for the support. It was a pleasure to bring some points of concern for us to think in the way to come. I'm just correcting typos but will publish the speech asap.

Regarding the protest issue, an update, so it does not escalate and compromise the activities to come:

As mentioned by c.a., him and other representatives from civil society at CGI.br presented the aspects of overreaction of UN officials + the fact that people were not aware of UN rules and, as a result of some negotiations, credentials will be given back after a "good will" session. So this particular issue will gladly be solved.

Though I'm happy that CGI and Br gov took the initiative to organize IGF here, I felt the (uncomfortable) urge to mentioned the episode in my speech as I was receiving worrying msgs from br cs colleagues while things were unfolding and I was waiting to talk. But, with this current agreement, I would say lets not compromise the event and enjoy the discussions and efforts put up by the organizers and take the best we can from IGF and our time in João Pessoa.

Even the question whether IGF shall be a place to allow demonstrations could be channeled to panel discussions an issue on the table for those focused on the WSIS+10 review and renew of IGF mandate. It is not the first time, neither will be the last, that local civil of the host country have something to question through demonstrations. Though I have no clue if changing this UN prerogative is possible for such a particular context/event as the IGF (or how it would make it more complicated for some countries to put themselves as hosts and if it is good or bad). How was WSIS in the early times?

Thanks c.a. and CGI.br for all the efforts to quickly solve this sad misunderstanding.

Best

Joana

On 11 Nov 2015 01:37, Carlos Afonso  wrote:

Renata, totally agree, and I tried to convince the chief rep of the UN
> here of this overreaction, in view of the fact that there is a video
> clearly showing there was no aggression.
> 
> But, as he said from the heights of his authority, rules are rules and
> they were "reincident" after being alerted in their first protest.
> 
> [] fraterno
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> On 10-11-15 22:32, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > Protesting with signs may be against UN rules but why go to the
> > extreme of banning the protesters?
> > As you can see on 1:45 on the video referenced. the signs of the
> > silent protest were taken away, the protesters sat down and still were
> > asked to leave and had their badges taken away. There are also
> > accounts that their cell phones were asked by the security.
> > As in the 1st person account published by Gustavo Gindre, there is
> > still a concern that they may be prevented in entering in future UN
> > events as well.
> > 
> > All seems even more bizarre as a Facebook sponsored cocktail goes on
> > tonight as the "after-party" of this event in a mile or so away from
> > the convention centre.
> > 
> > It just seems quite unfortunate that there's a climate of fear rather
> > than freedom of expression.
> > 
> > []s
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:57 PM, ahmed eisa sudan
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V9cxyHqrl2k
> >>
> >> Ahmed Mahmoud Mohamed Eisa
> >> +249123031155 Sudani
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
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> >> SeVO and other project
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:13 PM, parminder 

> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Congrats Joana, it was the most substantial and evocative speech I have
> >>> heard at the IGF in a long time (if ever)!
> >>>
> >>> It was both precisely to the point, and carried the right emotion and
> >>> evocation. And so brave of you to have raised the issue of removal of the CS
> >>> protesters... Bravo!!
> >>>
> >>> parminder
> >>>
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> >> +249912331155 Zain
> >>
> >> +249999331155  MTN
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> >>
> >> Gedaref digital city organization (GDCO) is a nongovernmental and nonprofit
> >> organization (Gedaref Sudan), it is part of the Telecentres movement where
> >> ICT is used for community development.  GDCO is the winner of information
> >> for development award  (i4d 2007 awards e-India) for the inclusion of the
> >> disabled, GDCO is the  winner of i4d 2008 awards for the best innovations
> >> at the grassroots Telecentres and the winner of i4d 2009 for the
> >> initiatives of civil society for development (e-agriculture project and
> >> other e-services).. ..it is the winner of eWorld award 2011. it is the
> >> winner of best innovative NGO working on ICT for community development in
> >> Sudan.  The winner of best album in Telecentre 2011 Philippines .. it the
> >> founder of the first Telecentre academy in Africa and middle east and the
> >> thirteen in world ..The Digital City of Eindhoven (DSE) Netherlands (the
> >> founder and well-known partner of GDCO in Netherlands) donated 750
> >> computers and more than ten projects were established using ICT for
> >> community development and one of them is e-agriculture. GDCO & SPEG
> >> (foundation of eindhoven volunteers for gedaref projects) started new
> >> partnership for community development including people with disability
> >> (especially deaf), gedaref university, (faculty of medicine) e-agriculture,
> >> SeVO and other project
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