[governance] Debunking eight myths about multi-stakeholderism

Jefsey jefsey at jefsey.com
Mon May 4 04:46:52 EDT 2015


Karl,
digital omnistakeholderism means that my machine is my ballot paper 
in the global voting emergence where ICANN is just another political 
lobby and sadly IETF has opted for the NTIA/FCC as its eventual leader.
jfc


At 20:56 03/05/2015, Karl Auerbach wrote:
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>On 4/29/15 10:23 AM, Barry Shein wrote:
>>Ok, let's try this then:
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>>Is EFF a stakeholder?
>No.   No thing that exists merely as an abstraction of law or 
>accounting ought to be given power in the making of decisions.
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>EFF employs many human people who would all be proper holders of a 
>franchise to participate in the making of whatever decision is to be 
>made.  Each of whom would be free to follow the EFF position or not.
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>EFF as an organization would, of course, be able to provide its 
>expertise - as would any other organization from the NRA to the ITU 
>to Boeing to Joe's Bar and Grill - but it would merely be proffered 
>advice and would have no weight in the making of decisions beyond 
>its power to persuade those (individual humans) or a human who has 
>been designated by those people to act on their behalf, in other 
>words a designated representative.
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>I am amused by how easy it is to corrupt stakeholder systems.  Under 
>ICANN's rubric I have many hats in which I am a "stakeholder" and 
>get to put my replicated thumb multiple times onto the scale of 
>decision.  I am, of course, a user of the internet, I own and 
>control several for-profit corporate entities, I participate in 
>several non-profit organizations, I hold domain names and IP 
>addresses from before the era of ICANN and the RIRs, I've authored 
>full internet standards, I own several trademarks and many 
>copyrights and even some patents, I'm a citizen of more than one 
>country, and I am also an attorney (both California and US Federal).
>
>So under a system of stakeholders I get more places to stand and try 
>to project my influence than the average internet user.   That, of 
>course, doesn't mean that I get my way - I tend to espouse rather 
>liberal human-over-corporation values - which clearly face huge 
>mountains of opposition.  But there are others who are far more 
>capable and manipulative than I am, and have far more resources, 
>money, and time.
>Consider the trademark protection lobby - they are quite well 
>funded, well focused, and under the ICANN system they get, and use, 
>multiple "stakeholder" seats (as intellectual property interests, as 
>business interests, via their exaggerated influence in governments, 
>and via the "at large").
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>When one recognizes mental abstractions - such as the collection 
>known as EFF or the collection known as Verizon - to have the piece 
>of the power to make decisions then that reduces the power of 
>humans.  It's a zero-sum game - the more we give to legal fictions, 
>such as corporations or trade groups, then the less there is for 
>individual people.
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>I am reminded of some of the mud that was thrown at the ICANN 
>elections in year 2000: that some countries and large corporations 
>were trying to influence their employees to vote in certain ways, 
>and that as a consequence it was asserted that those elections were 
>tainted.  Yet under the stakeholder system those same countries and 
>corporations would get actual power, actual votes - why care about 
>the opinions of mere people when the CEO can decide what is good for them?
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>             --karl--
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