From joly at punkcast.com Wed Jul 1 02:39:17 2015 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 02:39:17 -0400 Subject: [governance] WEBCAST WED/THU UN WSIS+10 Review Meetings in NYC Message-ID: While the slides, transcript, and video from Macao are all excellent, audio is just ok. A very good agenda, and although the first day is almost done, plenty to come. (I had to look up whether Macao or Macau is the correct spelling - it's complicated - either will do.) joly posted: "In August 2014 the United Nations General Assembly, in its resolution 68/302 on the modalities for the overall review by the Assembly of the implementation of the outcomes of the World Summit on the Information Society - aka WSIS+10 - decided that that th" [image: aprigf2015] The *Asia Pacific Regional Internet Governance Forum (APrIGF)* is underway in *Macao, China* from *July 1-3 2015*. The APrIGF is one of the key regional initiatives on Internet governance which provides an open platform for multi-stakeholders to discuss and identify issues and priorities, and ultimately advances the development of Internet governance in the Asia Pacific region as well as bring forward and contribute to the wider global Internet community. There is a wide and comprehensive program. *Remote participation* is available via *ICANN Adobe Connect* which includes video, slides and text transcription. Links are available via the agenda. Macao is on CST = *UTC+8*thus 12 hours ahead of NYC. *What: Asia Pacific Regional Internet Governance Forum 2015 (APrIGF) Agenda: http://2015.rigf.asia/themes/agenda/ Twitter: #aprigf2015 Facebook: http://facebook.com/hashtag/aprigf2015 Instagram: #aprigf2015 * *​Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7864 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(I had to look up whether Macao or Macau is the correct spelling - it's complicated - either will do.) joly posted: "In August 2014 the United Nations General Assembly, in its resolution 68/302 on the modalities for the overall review by the Assembly of the implementation of the outcomes of the World Summit on the Information Society - aka WSIS+10 - decided that that th" [image: aprigf2015] The *Asia Pacific Regional Internet Governance Forum (APrIGF)* is underway in *Macao, China* from *July 1-3 2015*. The APrIGF is one of the key regional initiatives on Internet governance which provides an open platform for multi-stakeholders to discuss and identify issues and priorities, and ultimately advances the development of Internet governance in the Asia Pacific region as well as bring forward and contribute to the wider global Internet community. There is a wide and comprehensive program. *Remote participation* is available via *ICANN Adobe Connect* which includes video, slides and text transcription. Links are available via the agenda. Macao is on CST = *UTC+8*thus 12 hours ahead of NYC. *What: Asia Pacific Regional Internet Governance Forum 2015 (APrIGF) Agenda: http://2015.rigf.asia/themes/agenda/ Twitter: #aprigf2015 Facebook: http://facebook.com/hashtag/aprigf2015 Instagram: #aprigf2015 * *​Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7864 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jefsey at jefsey.com Wed Jul 1 02:50:00 2015 From: jefsey at jefsey.com (Jefsey) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 08:50:00 +0200 Subject: [governance] The decentralization of the DNS system In-Reply-To: References: <55848964.10504@riseup.net> <7EC1DED3-031D-420D-927A-68483A1C3E9A@theglobaljournal.net> <5585B114.8070305@apc.org> <55887D18.20308@riseup.net> <66D8531E-F8BB-4B29-9B92-CF31ABFF707F@theglobaljournal.net> <9FEB6415-9B53-4A49-93B5-D2D2846B44A2@theglobaljournal.net> <7CF522D4-8100-43BF-B091-662764FF71B0@hserus.net> Message-ID: Dear Chantal, The internet proceeds by experimentation of permissionless innovative ideas. ICANN has pertinently documented reasonable and acceptable guidance for this innovation to be tested without interfering with their own operations. The DNS technology can support several architectural options that have or not have been attempted/tested. So there is no problem with new propositions as long as one can reproduce them and test them. I would be quite interested in understanding the Open-Root offer. Where could I find a technically clear description of the Open-Root system/architecture and practical operations? May be an IETF like Draft (I say "like" because I understand that you would not like to be bound by the NSANET technology's IETF Trust copyrights). From A to Z, with may be some FAQ addressing fellow engineer's questions, and a step by step explanation of the way any user (not Open-Root customers) may access Open-Root TLD named sites. Also, I would be interested in the practical set of programs, tools, files, etc. I need to establish a new Open-Root TLD. Eventually, I have some difficulty understanding if the Open-Root.eu proposition is commercial, proprietary or a Libre? Thank you for your responses which should probably help clarifying this 20+ years on-going discussion. jfc At 16:29 23/06/2015, chlebrum . wrote: >All last examples and explanations become quite surreallistic >because, as I explained previously, it exists different Registries >that had, for years, their own networks, totally ICANN independent, >and of course they have customers who use their TLDs. >Each of these differents networks has a choice of business model, if >you doubt you can consult attached file, a complaint with NameSpace >as plaintiff Vs ICANN. >You will read from page 37 the list (exhibit A, B and C) of gTLDs >claimed by NameSpace ... including some .NGO (page 41) >[] > >So now we have at least 3 different .NGO, who saw a problem? >As said previously, Open-Root used to SALE TLDs to customer, which >becomes an effective registry and allows the creation of "domain >names" free. It's our choice and it is great for clients. >As Jean-Christophe said, enter a different DNS number that ICANN (or >Google, which is also an Open Root !!!) often provides a faster >connection because it escapes spam and monitoring filters. A lot of >people in countries like Turkey, Azerbaidjan, Russia, Iran, France >and USA made these change, but, in fact it is in microseconds and >this is the Quality of Service that makes difference for users (it >depends on his continent, connectivity, provider, etc.). Louis >Pouzin wrote a paper about this problem during the NetMundial last year. > > >Chantal Lebrument >​Courriel: >chlebrum at gmail.com >Mob: +33 6 8369 5460 > >2015-06-23 15:43 GMT+02:00 Suresh Ramasubramanian ><suresh at hserus.net>: >Jean-Christophe - >Unfortunately, there is an actual TLD called .ngo - in which your >theglobaljournal.ngo does not exist. >So - there is now an inconsistency - there’s one set of ngo >domains hosted on “the real dns” and another totally different >set of ngo domains hosted on your open root or whatever.   And >there is zero connectivity or consistency between the two. >They affectively exist in parallel universes, completely unreachable >from each other. >; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P1 <<>> theglobaljournal.ngo >;; global options: +cmd >;; Got answer: >;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 22896 >;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 >;; QUESTION SECTION: >;theglobaljournal.ngo.INA >;; AUTHORITY SECTION: >ngo.899INSOAa0.nic.ngo. >noc.afilias-nst.info. 1000002722 10800 >3600 2764800 900 > > >>On 23-Jun-2015, at 7:05 pm, Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global >>Journal >><jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net> >>wrote: >>Not sure to understand what kind of demonstration you are aiming at. >>You dig the wrong place, and do not pay enough attention. Did I >>indicate that theglobaljournal.net >>was located at theglobaljournal.ngo (by Open-Root)? No. A domain >>name that was created back in 2010 with a .net and is up since then >>was not set - sadly- by using Open-Root. I regret it. To shift it >>in the future is a possibility. Thanks to your email, I'll think >>about it seriously. >> >>I precisely indicated that all my computers and devices were >>sending their requests for resolving name to IP, not any longer to >>an ICANN affiliate but to Open-Root. I am very happy with that >>change, as Open-Root responds faster than my former ICANN resolver. >>Then, I invited anyone to do so by changing their DNS settings in >>their own device and computers. So maybe you are able to enter my >>personal settings and penetrate my computers to check that, and >>maybe prove to the entire world that I am some kind of a "liar" - >>please provide us the results of your kind investigation. >>One additional information regarding the .ngo : it will be up and >>running - NGOs currently choosing their domain name (for free) with >>a .ngo in the Open Root - sometime in July. We are working hard on >>this as you can imagine. But now you can also dig + trace Open Root >>and tell everyone in the list if Louis Pouzin exists or if he and >>Open-Root are a fake. >>So unless you wish to simply discredit any party at the >>conversation table, I am not sure what to think about that last email of yours. >>Everyone will appreciate. >>JC >>Le 23 juin 2015 à 15:10, McTim a écrit : >> >>>On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian >>><suresh at hserus.net> wrote: >>>>What you call a fairyland is the reality that you happen to be >>>>using to even >>>>be able to send this email. >>>Indeed, I see no evidence of an alt-root in this dig + trace: >>> >>> >>>; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> >>>theglobaljournal.net MX +trace >>>;; global options:  printcmd >>>.                       10431   IN     >>> NS      c.root-servers.net. >>>.                       10431   IN     >>> NS      a.root-servers.net. >>>.                       10431   IN     >>> NS      h.root-servers.net. >>>.                       10431   IN     >>> NS      k.root-servers.net. >>>.                       10431   IN     >>> NS      g.root-servers.net. >>>.                       10431   IN     >>> NS      d.root-servers.net. >>>.                       10431   IN     >>> NS      f.root-servers.net. >>>.                       10431   IN     >>> NS      j.root-servers.net. >>>.                       10431   IN     >>> NS      m.root-servers.net. >>>.                       10431   IN     >>> NS      e.root-servers.net. >>>.                       10431   IN     >>> NS      b.root-servers.net. >>>.                       10431   IN     >>> NS      l.root-servers.net. >>>.                       10431   IN     >>> NS      i.root-servers.net. >>>;; Received 228 bytes from 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) in 45 ms >>>net.                    172800  IN      >>>NS      h.gtld-servers.net. >>>net.                    172800  IN      >>>NS      e.gtld-servers.net. >>>net.                    172800  IN      >>>NS      m.gtld-servers.net. >>>net.                    172800  IN      >>>NS      c.gtld-servers.net. >>>net.                    172800  IN      >>>NS      k.gtld-servers.net. >>>net.                    172800  IN      >>>NS      g.gtld-servers.net. >>>net.                    172800  IN      >>>NS      j.gtld-servers.net. >>>net.                    172800  IN      >>>NS      b.gtld-servers.net. >>>net.                    172800  IN      >>>NS      d.gtld-servers.net. >>>net.                    172800  IN      >>>NS      f.gtld-servers.net. >>>net.                    172800  IN      >>>NS      i.gtld-servers.net. >>>net.                    172800  IN      >>>NS      l.gtld-servers.net. >>>net.                    172800  IN      >>>NS      a.gtld-servers.net. >>>;; Received 507 bytes from >>>192.33.4.12#53(c.root-servers.net) in 46 ms >>> >>>theglobaljournal.net.   172800  >>>IN      NS      a.dns.gandi.net. >>>theglobaljournal.net.   172800  >>>IN      NS      b.dns.gandi.net. >>>theglobaljournal.net.   172800  >>>IN      NS      c.dns.gandi.net. >>>;; Received 228 bytes from >>>192.54.112.30#53(h.gtld-servers.net) in 122 ms >>> >>>theglobaljournal.net.   600    >>> IN      MX      10 >>>spool.mail.gandi.net. >>>theglobaljournal.net.   600    >>> IN      MX      50 fb.mail.gandi.net. >>>theglobaljournal.net.   10800   >>>IN      NS      c.dns.gandi.net. >>>theglobaljournal.net.   10800   >>>IN      NS      b.dns.gandi.net. >>>theglobaljournal.net.   10800   >>>IN      NS      a.dns.gandi.net. >>>;; Received 142 bytes from >>>173.246.98.1#53(a.dns.gandi.net) in 39 ms >>> >>> >>>>That chinese proposal is not a technical one - it is a smokescreen for a >>>>political move. >>>Censorship seems to be the motivation. >>>Any civil society that actually winds up supporting it >>>>finds itself endorsing a multilateral model where civil society, >>>>industry or >>>>other non government stakeholders are shut off from decision making. >>>>If that is your intent, then please do say so in slightly clearer >>>>terms than >>>>you have so far. >>> >>>If you are looking for a chinese proposal to scale the root, the one >>>described here seems to be less offensive to CS sensibilities: >>> >>>http://www.circleid.com/posts/20141107_secure_unowned_hierarchical_anycast_root_name_service_and_apologia/ >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Cheers, >>>McTim >>>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >>>route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel >>>____________________________________________________________ >>>You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>    governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>To be removed from the list, visit: >>>    >>>http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>For all other list information and functions, see: >>>    >>>http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> >>>To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>    http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>Translate this email: >>>http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>____________________________________________________________ >>You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>    governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>To be removed from the list, visit: >>    >>http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>For all other list information and functions, see: >>    >>http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> >>To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>    http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>Translate this email: >>http://translate.google.com/translate_t > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >   governance at lists.igcaucus.org >To be removed from the list, visit: >   >http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >For all other list information and functions, see: >   >http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >   http://www.igcaucus.org/ >Translate this email: >http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > >Content-Type: image/png; name="333.png" >Content-Disposition: inline; filename="333.png" >Content-ID: >X-Attachment-Id: gtalk.333 at goomoji.gmail > > > >Content-Type: application/pdf; name="Name-Space_Complaint_10-1012.pdf" >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Name-Space_Complaint_10-1012.pdf" >X-Attachment-Id: f_ib9fd74g0 > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Content-Disposition: inline > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Today software covers a very wide range of application domains as well as technology and research issues. This has found realization through Cloud Computing. Vital element in such networked information systems are the notions of trust, security, privacy and risk management. Cloud and Trusted Computing (C&TC 2015) is the 5th International Symposium on Cloud Computing, Trusted Computing and Secure Virtual Infrastructures, organized as a component conference of the OnTheMove Federated Conferences & Workshops. C&TC 2015 will be held in Rhodes, Greece. The conference solicits submissions from both academia and industry presenting novel research in the context of Cloud Computing, presenting theoretical and practical approaches to cloud trust, security, privacy and risk management. The conference will provide a special focus on the intersection between cloud and trust bringing together experts from the two communities to discuss on the vital issues of trust, security, privacy and risk management in Cloud Computing. Potential contributions could cover new approaches, methodologies, protocols, tools, or verification and validation techniques. We also welcome review papers that analyze critically the current status of trust, security, privacy and risk management in the cloud. Papers from practitioners who encounter trust, security, privacy and risk management problems and seek understanding are also welcome. Topics of interests of C&TC 2015 include, but are not limited to: TRUST, SECURITY, PRIVACY AND RISK MANAGEMENT IN CLOUD COMPUTING - Assurance Techniques - Access Control, Authorization, and Authentication - Cloud Computing with Autonomic and Trusted Environment - Cryptographic Algorithms and Protocols - Cyber Attack, Crime and Cyber War - DRM, Watermarking Technology, IP Protection - Emergency and Security Systems - End-to-end security over complex cloud supply chain - Forensics - Human Interaction with Trusted and Autonomic Computing Systems - Identity and Trust Management - Multimedia Security Issues over Mobile and Wireless Clouds - Network Security - Networks of Trust, Clouds of Trust - Privacy, Anonymity - Privilege Management Infrastructure - Reliable Computing and Trusted Computing - Risk evaluation and Management - Security, Dependability and Autonomic Issues in Ubiquitous Computing - Security Models and Quantifications - Self-protection and Intrusion-detection in Security - Trust Evaluation and Prediction in Service-Oriented Environments - Trust, Security, Privacy and Confidentiality - Trusted Computing in virtualized environments - Trusted P2P, Web Service, SoA, SaaS, EaaS, PaaS, XaaS - Virus Detections and Anti-virus Techniques/Software CLOUD DATA MANAGEMENT - Algorithms and Computations on Encrypted Data - Big Data, Frameworks and Systems for Parallel and Distributed Computing - Database as a Service, Multi-tenancy, Data management and analytics as a service - Data Science and Scalable Machine Learning - Elasticity and Scalability for Cloud Data Management Systems - High Availability and Reliability - Interoperability between Clouds - New Protocols, Interfaces and Data Models for Cloud Databases - Resource and Workload Management in Cloud Databases - Service Level Agreements and Contracts - Transactional Models for Cloud Databases, Consistency and Replication - Virtualization and Cloud databases, Storage Structures and Indexing CLOUD COMPUTING INFRASTRUCTURES AND ARCHITECTURES - Autonomic Computing Theory, Models, Architectures and Communications - Cloud Resource provisioning with QoS Guarantees - Cloud Operation and Resource Management - Cloud Performance Modeling and Benchmarks - Datacenter Architecture and Management - Formal methods and Tools for Cloud computing - Infrastructures for Social Computing and Networking - Software Architectures and Design for Trusted Emerging Systems - Virtualized Computing Infrastructures CLOUD COMPUTING APPLICATIONS - Cloud Business Applications and Case Studies - Clouds and Social Media, Network and Link Analysis - Large Scale Cloud Applications, Reality Mining - Mobile Cloud Services - New Parallel / Concurrent Programming Models for Cloud Computing - Pervasive / Ubiquitous Computing in the Cloud - Reliability, Fault Tolerance, Quality-of-Service - Service Level Agreements and Performance Measurement - Service-Oriented Architectures, RESTful Services in Cloud Environments =============== Important Dates =============== - Abstract Submission Deadline: June 30, 2015 - Paper Submission Deadline: July 6, 2015 - Acceptance Notification: August 15, 2015 - Camera Ready Due: September 1, 2015 - Author Registration Due: September 1, 2015 ================ Paper Submission ================ FULL PAPERS Full paper submissions to Cloud and Trusted Computing 2015 (C&TC 2015) must present original, highly innovative, prospective and forward-looking research in one or more of the themes given above. Full papers must break new ground, present new insight, deliver a significant research contribution and provide validated support for its results and conclusions. Successful submissions typically represent a major advance for the field of cloud computing, referencing and relating the contribution to existing research work, giving a comprehensive, detailed and understandable explanation of a system, study, theory or methodology, and support the findings with a compelling evaluation and/or validation. Each paper must be submitted as a single PDF file in Springer Lecture Notes in Computer Science format (not longer than 18 pages in length). Accepted regular papers will be included in the printed conference main proceedings and presented in the paper sessions. Submissions to C&TC 2015 must not be under review by any other conference or publication at any time during the C&TC review cycle, and must not be previously published or accepted for publication elsewhere. NOTES Notes (not longer than 6 pages in length) must report new results and provide support for the results, as a novel and valuable contribution to the field – just like full papers. Notes are intended for succinct work that is nonetheless in a mature state ready for inclusion in archival proceedings. Notes will be held to the same standard of scientific quality as full papers, albeit for a shorter presentation, and must still state how they fit with respect to related work, and provide a compelling explanation and validation. Notes must be submitted as single PDF file in Springer Lecture Notes in Computer Science format. Accepted notes will be published in the conference main proceedings and will be presented in the paper sessions of the conference. A selection of the best papers from Cloud and Trusted Computing 2015 will be published in a special issue of The International Journal of Computer Systems Science and Engineering. Submissions are to be made to the submission web site available at http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/submitpaper PAPER FORMATTING AND PRESENTING The paper and notes submission site giving all the relevant submission details is located at: http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/authors-kit/camconfpapers. Failure to comply with the formatting instructions for submitted papers or notes will lead to the outright rejection of the paper without review. Failure to commit to presentation at the conference automatically excludes a paper from the proceedings. =============== Program Chairs =============== - Claudio Agostino Ardagna, Universita' degli studi di Milano, Italy - Meiko Jensen, Independent Centre for Privacy Protection Schleswig-Holstein, Germany ================== Advisory Committee ================== - Ernesto Damiani, Universita' degli studi di Milano, Italy - Salim Hariri, The University of Arizona, USA - Robert Meersman, Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium - Siani Pearson, HP Labs, UK ================= Program Committee ================= - Marco Anisetti, Universita' degli Studi di Milano, Italy - Vijay Atluri, Rutgers University, USA - N. Balakrishnan, Indian Institute of Science, India - Endre Bangerter, Bern University of Applied Sciences, Switzerland - Michele Bezzi, SAP, France - Bud Brugger, Fraunhofer IAO, Germany - Marco Casassa Mont, HP Labs, UK - David Chadwick, University of Kent, UK - Henry Chan, The Hong Kong Polytechnic University - Alfredo Cuzzocrea, University of Calabria, Italy - Ernesto Damiani, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy - Stefan Dessloch, University of Kaiserslautern, Germany - Francesco Di Cerbo, SAP Labs, France - Scharam Dustdar, Technical University of Vienna, Austria - Stefanos Gritzalis, University of the Aegean, Greece - Nils Gruschka, FH Kiel, Germany - Marit Hansen, Unabhangiges Landeszentrum fur Datenschutz Schleswig-Holstein, Kiel, Germany - Ching Hsien Hsu, Chung Hua University, Taiwan - Patrick Hung, University of Ontario, Canada - Martin Jaatun, SINTEF ICT, Norway - Florian Kerschbaum, SAP, Germany - Ryan Ko, University of Waikato, New Zealand - Zhiqiang Lin, UT Dallas, USA - Luigi Lo Iacono, Cologne University of Applied Sciences, Germany - Gregorio Martinez, University of Murcia, Spain - Hadi Otrok, Khalifa University, Abu Dhabi, UAE - Smriti R. Ramakrishnan, Oracle Corporation, USA - Damien Sauveron, Universite' de Limoges, France - Jorg Schwenk, Ruhr-Universität Bochum, Germany - Russell Sears, Pure Storage, USA - Bhavani Thuraisingham, UT Dallas, USA - Luca Vigano', King's College London, UK =============== Publicity Chair =============== - Fulvio Frati, Universita' degli Studi di Milano, Italy More information available at http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/cloud-trust-15 **************** Per destinare il 5x1000 all'Universita' degli Studi di Milano: indicare nella dichiarazione dei redditi il codice fiscale 80012650158. http://www.unimi.it/13084.htm?utm_source=firmaMail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=linkFirmaEmail&utm_campaign=5xmille -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Wed Jul 1 03:27:46 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 12:57:46 +0530 Subject: [governance] [Steeringcommittee] Our position on NN Rules published : Net Neutrality: Europe Slips Into Reverse In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55939672.6030402@itforchange.net> Thanks Renata. Indian government too seems to be coming around to a good net neutrality (NN) position, that would be announced soon. see http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/telecom/net-neutrality-department-of-telecom-pushes-for-disallowing-telecom-companies-zero-rating-plans-in-its-report/articleshow/47873783.cms It seems that zero rating will be banned. However, there are indications that special public service content could be exempted. IT for Change's submission to the government committee on NN http://www.itforchange.net/ITfC_inputs_-_DOT_Committee_on_NN had made a distinction between zero rating as a practice done by telcos and appropriate 'positive discrimination' that would be decided and determined by law/policy and administered by the regulator. We consider it to be zero rating if the decision is in the hands of the telco, but appropriate 'positive discrimination' if it is determined and dictated by appropriate law/ policy and the telco has no discretion in it. We used two examples in our submission; essential public services (including democratic consultations) and community (Internet) radio. We are not able to accept that if, say, the government policy or law, as administered by the regulator, forces a 'free of data-charges' channel on all ISPs for essential pubic services and/ or community radio/media (we can discuss how and what will be considered community radio - there could be parametres as exist today in most countries), it should be opposed. But perhaps we need a discussion here on this issue. The issue of specialised services - rightly highlighted by WWW Foundation's blog - also needs to be discussed. The demarcation in this case too has to be clear, made at the public policy level and administered by the regulator, and not be a discretion of the ISPs, which would always be used to manipulate the NN nature of the Internet. That for us is the key principle. But further principles have to be defined so that 'specialised services' provision does not become a slippery slope. parminder On Wednesday 01 July 2015 01:43 AM, Renata Avila wrote: > Here our > position: http://webfoundation.org/2015/06/net-neutrality-europe-slips-into-reverse/ > > > Net Neutrality: Europe Slips Into Reverse > > > Web Foundation · June 30, 2015 > > * Web We Want > > Following a mammoth negotiating session that ended in the early hours > of this morning, the European Union (EU) has released their long > awaited rules on Net Neutrality. > > The EU Commissioner > ’s > tweet and an accompanying press release > proclaimed the > rules as strong protection for net neutrality, but we’re not so sure. > In fact, our initial response is one of disappointment. As others > have > pointed out, the proposals are unclear. At best they will lead to > disputes and confusion, and at worst they could see the creation of a > two-tier internet. If enacted, these rules would place European > companies and citizens at a disadvantage when compared to countries > such as Chile and the USA. > > The good news is, there is still time for decisive action. In the > coming days, the EU will debate and release clarifications on > important areas. Then, the full European parliament has to ratify the > text later this year. > > If you’re worried about the future of the Internet in Europe, send a > tweet to tell European lawmakers to stand up for true net neutrality! > > > We’re still digesting the details of the deal, but here are two points > of immediate concern to us: > > *1. “Specialised services” mean we could see the creation of internet > fast lanes. *The EU’s proposed deal allows so-called “specialised > services” – as long as they don’t interfere with the “open Internet”. > On the face of it, this sounds reasonable. The EU gives the example of > telesurgery – and we can all agree that doctors should be able to work > using the internet with a higher level of service in life-critical > situations. > > Unfortunately, though, opening the door to “specialised services” > creates a large grey area which is open to abuse. For instance, the EU > has suggested that Internet TV be classified as a specialised service. > So where do, say, educational videos on YouTube fit in? When does a > service become specialised? Also – we can’t imagine now what the > future will bring. What if the email, search or web of tomorrow is > classified as a “specialised service” that we have to pay more to > access? Opening up this can of worms is sure to lead to legal disputes > and ongoing uncertainty for everyone. > > Ultimately, the only way to stop this is to be bold and pass strong > net neutrality laws that preserve the Internet as it should be – an > open platform for innovation. If the EU is determined to press ahead > with exceptions for “specialised services”, such services should be > tightly defined after broad public consultation, and take place in > very limited exceptional circumstances, rather than becoming commonplace. > > *2. “Zero rated” services are to be allowed – with unclear > safeguards. *Zero-rating plans typically involve internet companies > and telecoms operators teaming up and offering a particular service or > bundle of services for free. The EU has decided to allow the practice > of zero rating, because “zero rating does not block competing > content”. That’s true, but misses the point that any rational person > will choose to get something for free, rather than pay for something > else presented as a close alternative. But in this case, the free > service could well be just a tiny slice of the open internet, with > content closely controlled by commercial interests, where the highest > bidder can pay to have individuals see their content for free. Or, it > could be something like a particular internet telephony or music > streaming service. > > As our founder and Web inventor Tim Berners-Lee said when he wrote on > this topic > in > February: /“Of course, it is not just about blocking and throttling. > It is also about stopping ‘positive discrimination’, such as when one > internet operator favours one particular service over another. If we > don’t explicitly outlaw this, we hand immense power to telcos and > online service operators. In effect, they can become gatekeepers – > able to handpick winners and the losers in the market and to favour > their own sites, services and platforms over those of others. This > would crowd out competition and snuff out innovative new services > before they even see the light of day. Imagine if a new start-up or > service provider had to ask permission from or pay a fee to a > competitor before they could attract customers? This sounds a lot like > bribery or market abuse…”/ > > Simply allowing zero rating on a blanket basis, with no clear > guidelines as to what it can be used for, and how it will be > regulated, seems like a retrograde step to us. The EU should ban zero > rating unless ‘free data’ can be used to access any part of the Open > Internet. > > /We’ll be following this topic closely in the weeks ahead. If you > agree with our concerns, send a tweet today! > / > > > > > _______________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"This election signifies trust in China's Internet, and how China governs its Internet," said Ma. The meeting was set to discuss key issues related to international cooperation on Internet governance while highlighting China's role. Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff had called for a just and equal global Internet environment and regarded China as the "key factor to the success of global Internet governance," said Fadi Chehade, president of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). Rousseff had suggested he find Chinese partners for cooperation, Chehade said. To establish a multiple-stakeholder platform, Chehade said that dialogues among different partners should be improved, the platform should be transparent and just, and all stakeholders should be able to equally participate in global Internet governance. GIGA is co-sponsored by ICANN, the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee and the World Economic Forum to provide a platform for the discussion of Internet governance solutions. -- Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance Arbeitsgruppe Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ Youtube -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The beta version of the NETmundial Solutions Map, a tool designed to support information sharing and collaboration across Internet governance issues, is now open for content contributions. Best wishes, Marília -- *Marília Maciel* Pesquisadora Gestora - Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio Researcher and Coordinator - Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts DiploFoundation associate - www.diplomacy.edu PoliTICs Magazine Advisory Committee - http://www.politics.org.br/ Subscribe "Digital Rights: Latin America & the Caribbean" - http://www.digitalrightslac.net/en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 12:22:25 +1200 Subject: [governance] Jack Ma, founder of Alibaba, elected co-chairman of Global Internet Governance Alliance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Awesome On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Lorena Jaume-Palasi < lorena at collaboratory.de> wrote: > > FYI > http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-07/01/c_134373596.htm > > SAO PAULO, June 30 (Xinhua) -- Jack Ma, founder of China's ecommerce giant > Alibaba, was elected co-chairman of the Global Internet Governance Alliance > (GIGA) at the first general meeting of GIGA council held here Tuesday. > > "This election signifies trust in China's Internet, and how China governs > its Internet," said Ma. > > The meeting was set to discuss key issues related to international > cooperation on Internet governance while highlighting China's role. > > Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff had called for a just and equal global > Internet environment and regarded China as the "key factor to the success > of global Internet governance," said Fadi Chehade, president of the > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). > > Rousseff had suggested he find Chinese partners for cooperation, Chehade > said. > > To establish a multiple-stakeholder platform, Chehade said that dialogues > among different partners should be improved, the platform should be > transparent and just, and all stakeholders should be able to equally > participate in global Internet governance. > > GIGA is co-sponsored by ICANN, the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee > and the World Economic Forum to provide a platform for the discussion of > Internet governance solutions. > > > -- > > Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance > Arbeitsgruppe > > Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. > > www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter > > ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ > Youtube > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- *Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala T* *P. O. Box 17862* *Suva* *Republic of Fiji* *Cell: +679 7656770; * *Home: +679 3362003* *Twitter: @SalanietaT* *"You will never do anything in this world without courage. It is the greatest quality of the mind next to honour." Aristotle* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just jogging my memory but wasnt China's Internet related attitude the original reason for so much opposition to UN based IG system. But one reckons it is always all right when you come, as they say in India, suited-booted, and are the rich and the elite. A clear proof that anti UN attacks were not against 'dangers to Internet freedom' but against people and democracy . Against the latter taking control of how the Internet and its associated digital technologies will evolve. The powerful are always ready to make deals with other powerful and that was always what the MetMundial Initiative was about. It is the worst thing to happen to the global IG scene ever. A complete and largely formal take over of global IG by the elite - political as well as economic. A largely transparent cooptation in the IG arena of the elite from the developing countries by that of the developed ones. This potent allaince is going to be much harder to fight than just the Northern elite. The only more unfortunate thing has been that a large party of civil society, especially its so called leaders, have merrily gone along, god knows for what. > The meeting was set to discuss key issues related to international > cooperation on Internet governance while highlighting China's role. > > Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff had called for a just and equal > global Internet environment and regarded China as the "key factor to > the success of global Internet governance," said Fadi Chehade, > president of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers > (ICANN). > > Rousseff had suggested he find Chinese partners for cooperation, > Chehade said. > > To establish a multiple-stakeholder platform, Chehade said that > dialogues among different partners should be improved, the platform > should be transparent and just, and all stakeholders should be able to > equally participate in global Internet governance. > And of course the customary multistakeholder blabber to go with it - the increasingly worn out and crumbling fig leaf. parminder > GIGA is co-sponsored by ICANN, the Brazilian Internet Steering > Committee and the World Economic Forum to provide a platform for the > discussion of Internet governance solutions. > > > > -- > > Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance > Arbeitsgruppe > > Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. > > www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de > ∙ Newsletter > ∙ Facebook > ∙ Twitter ∙Youtube > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Thu Jul 2 03:37:16 2015 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 09:37:16 +0200 Subject: [governance] Jack Ma, founder of Alibaba, elected co-chairman of Global Internet Governance Alliance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20150702093716.247d548e@quill> On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 12:22:25 +1200 "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" wrote: > Awesome Hi Sala I'd be interested in an explanation of what you see as awesome about this. (Or was the remark intended to be an expression of irony???) Greetings, Norbert > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Lorena Jaume-Palasi < > lorena at collaboratory.de> wrote: > > > > > FYI > > http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-07/01/c_134373596.htm > > > > SAO PAULO, June 30 (Xinhua) -- Jack Ma, founder of China's > > ecommerce giant Alibaba, was elected co-chairman of the Global > > Internet Governance Alliance (GIGA) at the first general meeting of > > GIGA council held here Tuesday. > > > > "This election signifies trust in China's Internet, and how China > > governs its Internet," said Ma. > > > > The meeting was set to discuss key issues related to international > > cooperation on Internet governance while highlighting China's role. > > > > Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff had called for a just and equal > > global Internet environment and regarded China as the "key factor > > to the success of global Internet governance," said Fadi Chehade, > > president of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and > > Numbers (ICANN). > > > > Rousseff had suggested he find Chinese partners for cooperation, > > Chehade said. > > > > To establish a multiple-stakeholder platform, Chehade said that > > dialogues among different partners should be improved, the platform > > should be transparent and just, and all stakeholders should be able > > to equally participate in global Internet governance. > > > > GIGA is co-sponsored by ICANN, the Brazilian Internet Steering > > Committee and the World Economic Forum to provide a platform for > > the discussion of Internet governance solutions. > > > > > > -- > > > > Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance > > Arbeitsgruppe > > > > Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. > > > > www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter > > > > ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ > > Youtube > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From tracyhackshaw at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 07:46:33 2015 From: tracyhackshaw at gmail.com (Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 07:46:33 -0400 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Jack Ma, founder of Alibaba, elected co-chairman of Global Internet Governance Alliance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is GIGA the new name of the NETmundial Initiative Coordinating Council or is it something different? Same meeting date. Same location. See https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/s%C3%A3o-paulo-communiqu%C3%A9-inaugural-council-meeting On 1 July 2015 at 18:34, Lorena Jaume-Palasi wrote: > > FYI > http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-07/01/c_134373596.htm > > SAO PAULO, June 30 (Xinhua) -- Jack Ma, founder of China's ecommerce giant > Alibaba, was elected co-chairman of the Global Internet Governance Alliance > (GIGA) at the first general meeting of GIGA council held here Tuesday. > > "This election signifies trust in China's Internet, and how China governs > its Internet," said Ma. > > The meeting was set to discuss key issues related to international > cooperation on Internet governance while highlighting China's role. > > Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff had called for a just and equal global > Internet environment and regarded China as the "key factor to the success > of global Internet governance," said Fadi Chehade, president of the > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). > > Rousseff had suggested he find Chinese partners for cooperation, Chehade > said. > > To establish a multiple-stakeholder platform, Chehade said that dialogues > among different partners should be improved, the platform should be > transparent and just, and all stakeholders should be able to equally > participate in global Internet governance. > > GIGA is co-sponsored by ICANN, the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee > and the World Economic Forum to provide a platform for the discussion of > Internet governance solutions. > > > -- > > Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance > Arbeitsgruppe > > Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. > > www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter > > ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ > Youtube > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at yahoo.fr Thu Jul 2 07:54:20 2015 From: arsenebaguma at yahoo.fr (Arsene TUNGALI (Yahoo)) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [governance] Any IG related event in US East Coast? Message-ID: <1166115946.1591782.1435838060618.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> (Apologise if you receive this message more than once)Dear colleagues, I am in the United States until October 2015 for a leadership program. I writing to ask if any of you know any IG related event happening in this part of the US between now and October? I am flexible and can easily travel between DC and New York if anything relevant. If any of you is around, it will be great to hang out. During this period, I am available on # 202 802 2313. Best regards, A------------------------------------------------------Arsène Tungali,Co-founder and Executive Director, Rudi InternationalFounder, Mabingwa Forum Work email: arsenebaguma at gmail.comFacebook - Twitter - LinkedInInternet Governance - Blogger - ISOC Member - ICANN Fellow - IGF Fellow.Democratic Republic of Congo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am one of the leaders in the Washington dc isoc chapter and would be great to meet you. One good internet governance event to go to is the IGF USA which will be happening on July 16 at GWU. Best, Judith Sent from my iPad Judith at jhellerstein.com Skype ID: judithhellerstein > On Jul 2, 2015, at 7:54 AM, Arsene TUNGALI (Yahoo) wrote: > > (Apologise if you receive this message more than once) > Dear colleagues, > > I am in the United States until October 2015 for a leadership program. I writing to ask if any of you know any IG related event happening in this part of the US between now and October? > > I am flexible and can easily travel between DC and New York if anything relevant. > > If any of you is around, it will be great to hang out. During this period, I am available on # 202 802 2313. > > Best regards, > A > ------------------------------------------------------ > Arsène Tungali, > Co-founder and Executive Director, Rudi International > Founder, Mabingwa Forum > > Work email: arsenebaguma at gmail.com > Facebook - Twitter - LinkedIn > Internet Governance - Blogger - ISOC Member - ICANN Fellow - IGF Fellow. > Democratic Republic of Congo > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think that "GIGA" is probably the result of the following four-step process: 1. Someone translated "NETmundial initiative" into Chinese. 2. Someone else translated that Chinese translation back into English, with a result of "Global Internet Governance Alliance". 3. A third person used "GIGA" as an informal shorthand for "Global Internet Governance Alliance". 4. A fourth person thought that "Global Internet Governance Alliance" and "GIGA" were the official name and official acronym. Greetings, Norbert > Same meeting date. Same > location. > > See > https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/s%C3%A3o-paulo-communiqu%C3%A9-inaugural-council-meeting > > > > On 1 July 2015 at 18:34, Lorena Jaume-Palasi > wrote: > > > > > FYI > > http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-07/01/c_134373596.htm > > > > SAO PAULO, June 30 (Xinhua) -- Jack Ma, founder of China's > > ecommerce giant Alibaba, was elected co-chairman of the Global > > Internet Governance Alliance (GIGA) at the first general meeting of > > GIGA council held here Tuesday. > > > > "This election signifies trust in China's Internet, and how China > > governs its Internet," said Ma. > > > > The meeting was set to discuss key issues related to international > > cooperation on Internet governance while highlighting China's role. > > > > Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff had called for a just and equal > > global Internet environment and regarded China as the "key factor > > to the success of global Internet governance," said Fadi Chehade, > > president of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and > > Numbers (ICANN). > > > > Rousseff had suggested he find Chinese partners for cooperation, > > Chehade said. > > > > To establish a multiple-stakeholder platform, Chehade said that > > dialogues among different partners should be improved, the platform > > should be transparent and just, and all stakeholders should be able > > to equally participate in global Internet governance. > > > > GIGA is co-sponsored by ICANN, the Brazilian Internet Steering > > Committee and the World Economic Forum to provide a platform for > > the discussion of Internet governance solutions. > > > > > > -- > > > > Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance > > Arbeitsgruppe > > > > Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. > > > > www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter > > > > ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ > > Youtube > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mariliamaciel at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 09:47:35 2015 From: mariliamaciel at gmail.com (Marilia Maciel) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 10:47:35 -0300 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Jack Ma, founder of Alibaba, elected co-chairman of Global Internet Governance Alliance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Tracy, There was no change in the name of NMI coordinating council. Both news refer to the same meeting. Maybe there was noise in translation, as Norbert suggested. Best wishes! Marília On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google < tracyhackshaw at gmail.com> wrote: > Is GIGA the new name of the NETmundial Initiative Coordinating Council or > is it something different? Same meeting date. Same location. > > See > https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/s%C3%A3o-paulo-communiqu%C3%A9-inaugural-council-meeting > > > > On 1 July 2015 at 18:34, Lorena Jaume-Palasi > wrote: > >> >> FYI >> http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-07/01/c_134373596.htm >> >> SAO PAULO, June 30 (Xinhua) -- Jack Ma, founder of China's ecommerce >> giant Alibaba, was elected co-chairman of the Global Internet Governance >> Alliance (GIGA) at the first general meeting of GIGA council held here >> Tuesday. >> >> "This election signifies trust in China's Internet, and how China governs >> its Internet," said Ma. >> >> The meeting was set to discuss key issues related to international >> cooperation on Internet governance while highlighting China's role. >> >> Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff had called for a just and equal global >> Internet environment and regarded China as the "key factor to the success >> of global Internet governance," said Fadi Chehade, president of the >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). >> >> Rousseff had suggested he find Chinese partners for cooperation, Chehade >> said. >> >> To establish a multiple-stakeholder platform, Chehade said that dialogues >> among different partners should be improved, the platform should be >> transparent and just, and all stakeholders should be able to equally >> participate in global Internet governance. >> >> GIGA is co-sponsored by ICANN, the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee >> and the World Economic Forum to provide a platform for the discussion of >> Internet governance solutions. >> >> >> -- >> >> Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance >> Arbeitsgruppe >> >> Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. >> >> www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter >> >> ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ >> Youtube >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- *Marília Maciel* Pesquisadora Gestora - Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio Researcher and Coordinator - Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts DiploFoundation associate - www.diplomacy.edu PoliTICs Magazine Advisory Committee - http://www.politics.org.br/ Subscribe "Digital Rights: Latin America & the Caribbean" - http://www.digitalrightslac.net/en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jack Ma was elected as co-chair of Net Mundial Initiative, probably your thesis of translations of translations was right, otherwise was physically impossible, since Ma left São Paulo to Beijing just after the election, and no one IG event was noticed here on same day e location. _ João Carlos Caribé (021) 9 8761 1967 Skype joaocaribe Enviado via iPad > Em 02/07/2015, às 10:44, Norbert Bollow escreveu: > > On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 07:46:33 -0400 > "Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google" wrote: > >> Is GIGA the new name of the NETmundial Initiative Coordinating >> Council or is it something different? > > I think that "GIGA" is probably the result of the following four-step > process: > > 1. Someone translated "NETmundial initiative" into Chinese. > 2. Someone else translated that Chinese translation back into English, > with a result of "Global Internet Governance Alliance". > 3. A third person used "GIGA" as an informal shorthand for "Global > Internet Governance Alliance". > 4. A fourth person thought that "Global Internet Governance Alliance" > and "GIGA" were the official name and official acronym. > > Greetings, > Norbert > >> Same meeting date. Same >> location. >> >> See >> https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/s%C3%A3o-paulo-communiqu%C3%A9-inaugural-council-meeting >> >> >> >> On 1 July 2015 at 18:34, Lorena Jaume-Palasi >> wrote: >> >>> >>> FYI >>> http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-07/01/c_134373596.htm >>> >>> SAO PAULO, June 30 (Xinhua) -- Jack Ma, founder of China's >>> ecommerce giant Alibaba, was elected co-chairman of the Global >>> Internet Governance Alliance (GIGA) at the first general meeting of >>> GIGA council held here Tuesday. >>> >>> "This election signifies trust in China's Internet, and how China >>> governs its Internet," said Ma. >>> >>> The meeting was set to discuss key issues related to international >>> cooperation on Internet governance while highlighting China's role. >>> >>> Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff had called for a just and equal >>> global Internet environment and regarded China as the "key factor >>> to the success of global Internet governance," said Fadi Chehade, >>> president of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and >>> Numbers (ICANN). >>> >>> Rousseff had suggested he find Chinese partners for cooperation, >>> Chehade said. >>> >>> To establish a multiple-stakeholder platform, Chehade said that >>> dialogues among different partners should be improved, the platform >>> should be transparent and just, and all stakeholders should be able >>> to equally participate in global Internet governance. >>> >>> GIGA is co-sponsored by ICANN, the Brazilian Internet Steering >>> Committee and the World Economic Forum to provide a platform for >>> the discussion of Internet governance solutions. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance >>> Arbeitsgruppe >>> >>> Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. >>> >>> www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter >>> >>> ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ >>> Youtube >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >>> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From soekpe at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 09:54:38 2015 From: soekpe at gmail.com (Sonigitu Ekpe) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:54:38 +0100 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Jack Ma, founder of Alibaba, elected co-chairman of Global Internet Governance Alliance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Nobert, It is great to have an opinion but it is wrong to request for an explanation from one who is not your subordinate. If am wrong correct me. What do we all expect to see on Internet Governance? Warm regards. On 2 Jul 2015 14:48, "Marilia Maciel" wrote: > Hi Tracy, > > There was no change in the name of NMI coordinating council. Both news > refer to the same meeting. Maybe there was noise in translation, as Norbert > suggested. > > Best wishes! > Marília > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google < > tracyhackshaw at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Is GIGA the new name of the NETmundial Initiative Coordinating Council or >> is it something different? Same meeting date. Same location. >> >> See >> https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/s%C3%A3o-paulo-communiqu%C3%A9-inaugural-council-meeting >> >> >> >> On 1 July 2015 at 18:34, Lorena Jaume-Palasi >> wrote: >> >>> >>> FYI >>> http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-07/01/c_134373596.htm >>> >>> SAO PAULO, June 30 (Xinhua) -- Jack Ma, founder of China's ecommerce >>> giant Alibaba, was elected co-chairman of the Global Internet Governance >>> Alliance (GIGA) at the first general meeting of GIGA council held here >>> Tuesday. >>> >>> "This election signifies trust in China's Internet, and how China >>> governs its Internet," said Ma. >>> >>> The meeting was set to discuss key issues related to international >>> cooperation on Internet governance while highlighting China's role. >>> >>> Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff had called for a just and equal >>> global Internet environment and regarded China as the "key factor to the >>> success of global Internet governance," said Fadi Chehade, president of the >>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). >>> >>> Rousseff had suggested he find Chinese partners for cooperation, Chehade >>> said. >>> >>> To establish a multiple-stakeholder platform, Chehade said that >>> dialogues among different partners should be improved, the platform should >>> be transparent and just, and all stakeholders should be able to equally >>> participate in global Internet governance. >>> >>> GIGA is co-sponsored by ICANN, the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee >>> and the World Economic Forum to provide a platform for the discussion of >>> Internet governance solutions. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance >>> Arbeitsgruppe >>> >>> Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. >>> >>> www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter >>> >>> ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ >>> Youtube >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >>> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > > > > -- > *Marília Maciel* > Pesquisadora Gestora - Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio > Researcher and Coordinator - Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law > School > http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts > > DiploFoundation associate - www.diplomacy.edu > PoliTICs Magazine Advisory Committee - http://www.politics.org.br/ > Subscribe "Digital Rights: Latin America & the Caribbean" - > http://www.digitalrightslac.net/en > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The webcast link is at http://webtv.un.org/live-now/watch/general-assembly-informal-consultations-with-all-relevant-stakeholders-of-the-world-summit-on-the-information-society-in-advance-of-the-high-level-meeting-of-the-general-assembly-in-december-2015/1665870036001 and the hashtag to ask questions is #askwsis10 ​ On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 5:53 AM, Joly MacFie wrote: > ISOC-NY will be represented in person at these meetings by Avri Doria. > It is the WSIS process, started in Tunis in 2005, that gave birth to the > Internet Governance Forum (IGF), so one of the items under discussion will > be its continuing support. An initiative was launched last year > to take the IGF independent so it's no > longer beholden to UN pursestrings/regulations - see http://igfsa.org - > deserving of support! > > joly posted: "In August 2014 the United Nations General Assembly, in its > resolution 68/302 on the modalities for the overall review by the Assembly > of the implementation of the outcomes of the World Summit on the > Information Society - aka WSIS+10 - decided that that th" > > > [image: WSIS+10] In* August 2014* the *United > Nations General Assembly*, in its *resolution 68/302 > * on the > modalities for the overall review by the Assembly of the implementation of > the outcomes of the *World Summit on the Information Society* - aka *WSIS+10 > * - decided that that the overall review > will be concluded by a two-day high-level meeting of the Assembly, to be > preceded by an intergovernmental preparatory process that also takes into > account inputs from all relevant stakeholders. Under the *roadmap > * > that preparatory process takes place this week in NYC and, while > registration to attend in person is closed, remote participation is > available via webcast & twitter. > > *1st Preparatory Meeting > - Wed 1 July 2015, > 10am-6pm EDT | 14:00:22:00 UTC* > * Informal Interactive Stakeholder Consultation > - Thu 2 July > 2015, 10am-6pm EDT | 14:00:22:00 UTC* > * Webcast: http://webtv.un.org/ * > * Twitter questions: #AskUNGAWSIS > (Thursday)* > * Twitter comments: #UNGAWSISReview > * > > > Comment See all comments > > > > > > > > *​Permalink* > > http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7858 > > > > > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast > WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com > http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com > VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org > -------------------------------------------------------------- > - > -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Thu Jul 2 10:55:37 2015 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 16:55:37 +0200 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Jack Ma, founder of Alibaba, elected co-chairman of Global Internet Governance Alliance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20150702165537.158f4317@quill> On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:54:38 +0100 Sonigitu Ekpe wrote: > Hello Nobert, > > It is great to have an opinion but it is wrong to request for an > explanation from one who is not your subordinate. If am wrong correct > me. I strongly disagree. [Or maybe you simply understood the word "explanation" in "I'd be interested in an explanation of what you see as awesome about this. (Or was the remark intended to be an expression of irony???)" differently from how I meant it?] In fact there are various kinds of situations where requesting an explanation is not only not wrong, but the appropriate step to take. For example, my recent request for an explanation was in a context of intercultural communications, where it was not totally clear to me whether a remark was meant as irony or not. So I think that there was nothing wrong with requesting an explanation. The alternative would have been to simply make an assumption of my own on how I think that the remark was meant. More generally, there are many kinds of situations where communication is not likely to achieve its objectives when requests for explanations are not made or not honored. On the other hand, it is also possible for requests for explanations to hinder rather than help the objectives which the communication process is intended to achieve or help achieve. That will depend very much on many aspects of the situation, but I don't see how whether someone is my subordinate or not would enter into it, except that for a subordinate I would in regard to some topic areas have the right to not only request but in fact demand an explanation. Greetings, Norbert -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From soekpe at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 12:03:01 2015 From: soekpe at gmail.com (Sonigitu Ekpe) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 17:03:01 +0100 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Jack Ma, founder of Alibaba, elected co-chairman of Global Internet Governance Alliance In-Reply-To: <20150702165537.158f4317@quill> References: <20150702165537.158f4317@quill> Message-ID: Good points. Looking back at the tensed situation of the past, it becomes interesting to see China accepting to co-chair. I remember the issue with the Indian chap who represented or stood for Civil Society wish raised so much tension and allegations on U.S. in imposing. ....... How did it go? On 2 Jul 2015 15:55, "Norbert Bollow" wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:54:38 +0100 > Sonigitu Ekpe wrote: > > > Hello Nobert, > > > > It is great to have an opinion but it is wrong to request for an > > explanation from one who is not your subordinate. If am wrong correct > > me. > > I strongly disagree. [Or maybe you simply understood the word > "explanation" in "I'd be interested in an explanation of what you see as > awesome about this. (Or was the remark intended to be an expression of > irony???)" differently from how I meant it?] > > In fact there are various kinds of situations where requesting an > explanation is not only not wrong, but the appropriate step to take. > > For example, my recent request for an explanation was in a context of > intercultural communications, where it was not totally clear to me > whether a remark was meant as irony or not. So I think that there was > nothing wrong with requesting an explanation. The alternative would > have been to simply make an assumption of my own on how I think that > the remark was meant. > > More generally, there are many kinds of situations where communication > is not likely to achieve its objectives when requests for explanations > are not made or not honored. On the other hand, it is also possible for > requests for explanations to hinder rather than help the objectives > which the communication process is intended to achieve or help achieve. > That will depend very much on many aspects of the situation, but I > don't see how whether someone is my subordinate or not would enter into > it, except that for a subordinate I would in regard to some topic areas > have the right to not only request but in fact demand an explanation. > > Greetings, > Norbert > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng Thu Jul 2 13:41:09 2015 From: udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng (Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 18:41:09 +0100 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Jack Ma, founder of Alibaba, elected co-chairman of Global Internet Governance Alliance In-Reply-To: References: <20150702165537.158f4317@quill> Message-ID: Hi, all, ('Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff had called for a just and equal global Internet environment and regarded China as the "key factor to the success of global Internet governance," said Fadi Chehade, president of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN).') Sure. China has several IG postures it needs to think again about. Occupying a position in a crucial IG forum, that provides opportunity for it to reconsider those postures, is actually key to success. @Sonigitu: What I expect to see on Internet governance is a level playing multi-stakeholder mechanism, never an approach that heightens State thirst for "closed" Internet, cyber armament and privacy intrusion. Regards, CPU. _____________________________________ Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku (PhD) University of Nigeria On Jul 2, 2015 5:04 PM, "Sonigitu Ekpe" wrote: > Good points. > Looking back at the tensed situation of the past, it becomes interesting > to see China accepting to co-chair. > > I remember the issue with the Indian chap who represented or stood for > Civil Society wish raised so much tension and allegations on U.S. in > imposing. ....... > > How did it go? > On 2 Jul 2015 15:55, "Norbert Bollow" wrote: > >> On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:54:38 +0100 >> Sonigitu Ekpe wrote: >> >> > Hello Nobert, >> > >> > It is great to have an opinion but it is wrong to request for an >> > explanation from one who is not your subordinate. If am wrong correct >> > me. >> >> I strongly disagree. [Or maybe you simply understood the word >> "explanation" in "I'd be interested in an explanation of what you see as >> awesome about this. (Or was the remark intended to be an expression of >> irony???)" differently from how I meant it?] >> >> In fact there are various kinds of situations where requesting an >> explanation is not only not wrong, but the appropriate step to take. >> >> For example, my recent request for an explanation was in a context of >> intercultural communications, where it was not totally clear to me >> whether a remark was meant as irony or not. So I think that there was >> nothing wrong with requesting an explanation. The alternative would >> have been to simply make an assumption of my own on how I think that >> the remark was meant. >> >> More generally, there are many kinds of situations where communication >> is not likely to achieve its objectives when requests for explanations >> are not made or not honored. On the other hand, it is also possible for >> requests for explanations to hinder rather than help the objectives >> which the communication process is intended to achieve or help achieve. >> That will depend very much on many aspects of the situation, but I >> don't see how whether someone is my subordinate or not would enter into >> it, except that for a subordinate I would in regard to some topic areas >> have the right to not only request but in fact demand an explanation. >> >> Greetings, >> Norbert >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From vanda at uol.com.br Thu Jul 2 14:54:39 2015 From: vanda at uol.com.br (Vanda Scartezini) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 15:54:39 -0300 Subject: [governance] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?NMI_mtg_outcomes=3A_S=E3o_Paulo_c?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ommuniqu=E9?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Marilia, I had already posted it to ICANN groups. Congratulations to you! Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 Sorry for any typos. From: on behalf of Marilia Maciel Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , Marilia Maciel Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 21:19 To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , "<,bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> ," Subject: [governance] NMI mtg outcomes: São Paulo communiqué Dear all, This document summarises the main outcomes of the inaugural meeting of the NETmundial Initiative coordinating council. https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/são-paulo-communiqué-inaugural-c ouncil-meeting The ToR and the governance and operational framework of NMI are now approved and co-chairs have been selected. The beta version of the NETmundial Solutions Map, a tool designed to support information sharing and collaboration across Internet governance issues, is now open for content contributions. Best wishes, Marília -- Marília Maciel Pesquisadora Gestora - Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio Researcher and Coordinator - Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts DiploFoundation associate - www.diplomacy.edu PoliTICs Magazine Advisory Committee - http://www.politics.org.br/ Subscribe "Digital Rights: Latin America & the Caribbean" - http://www.digitalrightslac.net/en ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Thu Jul 2 19:29:01 2015 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 09:29:01 +1000 Subject: [governance] update on NMI Message-ID: <6A131569FE024ACB9378C5604868C705@Toshiba> This is an update and some personal reflections on the NetMundial Initiative, which held its first full Coordination Council meeting on June 30 in Sao Paulo. As posted recently by Marilia, the communique document can be found at https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/s%C3%A3o-paulo-communiqu%C3%A9-inaugural-council-meeting and summarises most of the discussions. So below are some more personal comments. Please feel free to copy to other lists. The meeting was held in the same room as the original NetMundial conference which many of us attended (but partitioned to create a smaller room). In addition to the Council members, seats were available for observers as well as remote participation. The meeting was hosted and very well organised by CGI.br One feature of the meeting was the speeches by 2 high profile Chinese delegates attending for the first time (Lu Wei, Chinese Minister for Cyberspace, and Jack Ma, head of Alibaba). I would imagine transcripts as well as other documents will be available soon at www.netmundial .org, but some memories are Lu Wei definitely mentioned support for multistakeholderism, but China watchers might also want to check the transcript or recording for nuances of meaning here – he also mentioned sovereignty of course. This seems to a change of some sort for China to mention support for multistakeholderism, but I would imagine their interpretation of what this means might be somewhere within the wide range of interpretations already existing. But what I do read into this is an acknowledgement by China that it will work with the rest of the world in addressing internet issues. As always, the devil will be in the detail. Lu Wei ( and Jack Ma if my memory serves me correctly) used the phrase of the internet being “for the development of humankind” This particular phrase had a history dating back to the early 1980s and the Macbride Report of UNESCO (Many Voices One World) referring to pre-Internet new media – out of which the NWICO debates emerged. I was personally pleased to hear the phrase used in this context. There was an interesting discussion on human rights and internet governance between Lu Wei and Eileen Donahoe and Anriette Esterhuysen. Jack Ma gave a very interesting speech as well, referring to development and engagement of youth in particular. It appears that both China and Jack Ma on behalf of Alibaba have indicated strong support at this stage for the initiative. Fadi Chehade in his opening remarks produced some interesting diagrammatic interpretations of the state of internet governance – these are also available from www.netmundial.org. He also mentioned the role of Edward Snowden as a catalyst for the original NMI conference in Sao Paulo – remarks which I later took on board a little more extensively to thank Edward Snowden for his contribution and to note that, although there have since been a few small measures here and there to improve the pervasive nature of mass surveillance, there was still a lot of improvement needed in this area. The meeting adopted a few procedural documents – including strong support for consensus decision making. It also, through a fairly messy process hastily arranged, put in place 5 co-chairs – Jack Ma, Fadi Chehade, Virgilio Almeida, Eileen Donahoe, and Marilia Maciel. There was a lot of internal obsessive detail which we could discuss if people want to, but basically the intiative is still pretty new and raw and learning from its mistakes. Much of the meeting was devoted to internal process. There were also some pretty interesting side discussions – I (and others as well) deliberately raised the internet.org issue, particularly to feel out policy makers from industry and governments. While there were divided opinions, there were certainly a lot of people who hadn’t thought about it yet who need to, and some surprisingly strong opposition to the initiative from some industry players. I think the discussions were valuable, with some people having very scant knowledge of the issues which are being raised and likely to look into them further. Otherwise – my general impression is that NMI is getting some structure, and maybe some extra avenues of financial support as well . The terms of the inaugural council will run out in June 2016, and it is hard to know what will happen after that, if anything. The loss of product champion Fadi Chehade is likely to be a factor as well. That’s my initial reactions. 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It includes the following text “The United States and Brazil share the understanding that global Internet governance must be transparent and inclusive, ensuring full participation of governments, civil society, private sector and international organizations, so that the potential of the Internet as a powerful tool for economic and social development can be fulfilled. Both countries acknowledge the agenda approved by Netmundial conference (São Paulo, April 2014) as a guide for discussions regarding the future of the global internet governance system. Both countries reaffirm their adherence to the multistakeholder model of Internet governance and, in this context, reaffirm their commitment to cooperate for the success of the Tenth Internet Governance Forum (João Pessoa, November 10 to 13, 2015), and extension of the IGF mandate. Likewise, they reaffirm their interest in participating actively in the preparatory process of the High-Level Meeting of the UN General Assembly for the Ten-Year Review of the WSIS outcomes, to be held in New York in December 2015. Bilateral cooperation on cyber issues will be resumed by the convening of the Second Meeting of the Working Group on Internet and Information and Communications Technology in Brasilia in the second semester. The meeting will offer the opportunity of exchanging experiences and exploring possibilities for cooperation in a number of key areas, including e-government, the digital economy, cybersecurity, cybercrime prevention, capacity building activities, international security in cyberspace, and research, development, and innovation.” -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Thu Jul 2 22:34:12 2015 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 22:34:12 -0400 Subject: [governance] FYI - Obama/Rouseff joint statement In-Reply-To: <43A9ECC998684DBF9B4DAA178C4545E9@Toshiba> References: <43A9ECC998684DBF9B4DAA178C4545E9@Toshiba> Message-ID: <5595F4A4.4030909@mail.utoronto.ca> No mention of human rights in that statement Peter? I pulled out this piece further up: The Presidents decided to initiate a human rights working group under the aegis of the Global Partnership Dialogue. The objective of the Dialogue is to exchange views and intensify efforts to strengthen multilateral human rights institutions. The Presidents also noted the importance of relying on independent, multilateral monitoring mechanisms to ensure the legitimacy and credibility of international efforts to promote and defend human rights and fundamental freedoms. But I note that it does not appear anywhere near the important material on trade agreements, nor does it leaven the emphasis on cybersecurity we see below. However, I suppose we must just focus on making sure the messages are delivered at all the forums mentioned. Thanks for the update! Kind regards Stephanie Perrin On 2015-07-02 21:27, Ian Peter wrote: > > A joint statement has just been released by the Presidents of USA and > Brazil at > https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/06/30/joint-communique-president-barack-obama-and-president-dilma-rousseff > . > > It includes the following text > > “The United States and Brazil share the understanding that global > Internet governance must be transparent and inclusive, ensuring full > participation of governments, civil society, private sector and > international organizations, so that the potential of the Internet as > a powerful tool for economic and social development can be fulfilled. > > Both countries acknowledge the agenda approved by Netmundial > conference (São Paulo, April 2014) as a guide for discussions > regarding the future of the global internet governance system. > > Both countries reaffirm their adherence to the multistakeholder model > of Internet governance and, in this context, reaffirm their commitment > to cooperate for the success of the Tenth Internet Governance Forum > (João Pessoa, November 10 to 13, 2015), and extension of the IGF mandate. > > Likewise, they reaffirm their interest in participating actively in > the preparatory process of the High-Level Meeting of the UN General > Assembly for the Ten-Year Review of the WSIS outcomes, to be held in > New York in December 2015. > > Bilateral cooperation on cyber issues will be resumed by the convening > of the Second Meeting of the Working Group on Internet and Information > and Communications Technology in Brasilia in the second semester. The > meeting will offer the opportunity of exchanging experiences and > exploring possibilities for cooperation in a number of key areas, > including e-government, the digital economy, cybersecurity, cybercrime > prevention, capacity building activities, international security in > cyberspace, and research, development, and innovation.” > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Thu Jul 2 22:40:37 2015 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 08:10:37 +0530 Subject: [governance] FYI - Obama/Rouseff joint statement In-Reply-To: <5595F4A4.4030909@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <43A9ECC998684DBF9B4DAA178C4545E9@Toshiba> <5595F4A4.4030909@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <824C47E9-0791-4352-AE42-E7A6BAC09B46@hserus.net> Wouldn't you say that safety and security online as well as offline is a fundamental human right? Being phished and having your bank account emptied, your personal data misused etc is, while bloodless, far more damaging than being mugged and relieved of your purse and phone on a street. For several activist groups, the threat of any number of government and/or other interests hacking into their communications remains a key concern. Speaking as someone who has worked in security for over fifteen years it is a fascinating field where there is a fine balance constantly struck between security and privacy. So I would not cite any emphasis on cyber security as harmful or bad on the face of it --srs > On 03-Jul-2015, at 8:04 am, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > > But I note that it does not appear anywhere near the important material on trade agreements, nor does it leaven the emphasis on cybersecurity we see below. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Thu Jul 2 22:54:59 2015 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 22:54:59 -0400 Subject: [governance] FYI - Obama/Rouseff joint statement In-Reply-To: <824C47E9-0791-4352-AE42-E7A6BAC09B46@hserus.net> References: <43A9ECC998684DBF9B4DAA178C4545E9@Toshiba> <5595F4A4.4030909@mail.utoronto.ca> <824C47E9-0791-4352-AE42-E7A6BAC09B46@hserus.net> Message-ID: <5595F983.50009@mail.utoronto.ca> Of course security is an important issue and certainly not "bad", I did not wish to imply it was. But surveillance in the name of security is often how other fundamental rights such as freedom of expression, privacy, and freedom of assembly are invaded. It is important to assert the importance of human rights globally in a document like this, so that all rights are referenced. Given that there is a lot of detail, from trade in beef to cooperation in firefighting, I think it is a bit disappointing that the Marco Civile and other human rights issues were not underscored. Kind regards, Stephanie Perrin On 2015-07-02 22:40, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Wouldn't you say that safety and security online as well as offline is a fundamental human right? > > Being phished and having your bank account emptied, your personal data misused etc is, while bloodless, far more damaging than being mugged and relieved of your purse and phone on a street. > > For several activist groups, the threat of any number of government and/or other interests hacking into their communications remains a key concern. > > Speaking as someone who has worked in security for over fifteen years it is a fascinating field where there is a fine balance constantly struck between security and privacy. > > So I would not cite any emphasis on cyber security as harmful or bad on the face of it > > --srs > >> On 03-Jul-2015, at 8:04 am, Stephanie Perrin wrote: >> >> But I note that it does not appear anywhere near the important material on trade agreements, nor does it leaven the emphasis on cybersecurity we see below. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Thu Jul 2 23:15:23 2015 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 08:45:23 +0530 Subject: [governance] FYI - Obama/Rouseff joint statement In-Reply-To: <5595F983.50009@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <43A9ECC998684DBF9B4DAA178C4545E9@Toshiba> <5595F4A4.4030909@mail.utoronto.ca> <824C47E9-0791-4352-AE42-E7A6BAC09B46@hserus.net> <5595F983.50009@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <386F6793-0629-4BBF-87A4-7D42770C576A@hserus.net> Thank you. We are in agreement here. > On 03-Jul-2015, at 8:24 am, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > > Of course security is an important issue and certainly not "bad", I did not wish to imply it was. But surveillance in the name of security is often how other fundamental rights such as freedom of expression, privacy, and freedom of assembly are invaded. It is important to assert the importance of human rights globally in a document like this, so that all rights are referenced. Given that there is a lot of detail, from trade in beef to cooperation in firefighting, I think it is a bit disappointing that the Marco Civile and other human rights issues were not underscored. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The Internet Policy Review is calling for submissions: http://policyreview.info/authors The Internet Policy Review is a journal on internet regulation in Europe – peer-reviewed, fast-track and open access. It analyses public regulatory changes as well as private policy developments which are expected to have long lasting impacts on European societies. The journal contributes research to contemporary debates about media, information technology, telecommunications and internet governance. The journal is open to research papers and scholarly essays of up to 25,000 characters on the following topics: * Internet infrastructure & Standards * Business & Trade * Access & Content * Copyright & Intellectual Property Rights * Privacy & Security * Procedures & Governance Please send your submissions to the editors (editor at hiig.de ) at any time. There is no deadline. The Internet Policy Review is committed to facilitating short review cycles and publishes articles on an ongoing basis. — About — The Internet Policy Review was established in 2013 as the first peer-reviewed journal that aims to be a resource on internet policy for academics, civil society advocates, entrepreneurs, the media and policy-makers alike. It is published on an ongoing basis by the Alexander von Humboldt Institute for Internet and Society (Berlin) in cooperation with CREATe (Glasgow) and the Institut des sciences de la communication CNRS (Paris-Sorbonne). The advisory board currently consists of Professor Jeanette Hofmann (Berlin Social Science Center WZB), Professor Mélanie Dulong de Rosnay (CNRS), Professor Martin Kretschmer (CREATe, Glasgow) and Professor Wolfgang Schulz (Hans Bredow Institute, Hamburg). If you have any questions or would like to discuss if there is a fit with your paper, do not hesitate to get in touch. 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In-Reply-To: References: <20150702165537.158f4317@quill> Message-ID: <20150703120707.2f51ebf4@quill> On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 18:41:09 +0100 Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku wrote: > What I expect to see on Internet governance is a level > playing multi-stakeholder mechanism, What would "a level playing multi-stakeholder mechanism" look like? Is this a realistic expectation? > never an approach that heightens > State thirst for "closed" Internet, cyber armament and privacy > intrusion. I think we are all in agreement in being opposed to that kind of approach. Greetings, Norbert -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nashton at consensus.pro Fri Jul 3 07:08:02 2015 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 13:08:02 +0200 Subject: [governance] FYI - Obama/Rouseff joint statement In-Reply-To: <43A9ECC998684DBF9B4DAA178C4545E9@Toshiba> References: <43A9ECC998684DBF9B4DAA178C4545E9@Toshiba> Message-ID: Thanks Peter - for those who aren't aware and are interested, Brazil is the coordinator within the G77 for the WSIS review meeting preparations and outcome document. On 3 Jul 2015, at 03:27, Ian Peter wrote: > A joint statement has just been released by the Presidents of USA and Brazil at https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/06/30/joint-communique-president-barack-obama-and-president-dilma-rousseff . > > It includes the following text > > “The United States and Brazil share the understanding that global Internet governance must be transparent and inclusive, ensuring full participation of governments, civil society, private sector and international organizations, so that the potential of the Internet as a powerful tool for economic and social development can be fulfilled. > > Both countries acknowledge the agenda approved by Netmundial conference (São Paulo, April 2014) as a guide for discussions regarding the future of the global internet governance system. > > Both countries reaffirm their adherence to the multistakeholder model of Internet governance and, in this context, reaffirm their commitment to cooperate for the success of the Tenth Internet Governance Forum (João Pessoa, November 10 to 13, 2015), and extension of the IGF mandate. > > Likewise, they reaffirm their interest in participating actively in the preparatory process of the High-Level Meeting of the UN General Assembly for the Ten-Year Review of the WSIS outcomes, to be held in New York in December 2015. > > Bilateral cooperation on cyber issues will be resumed by the convening of the Second Meeting of the Working Group on Internet and Information and Communications Technology in Brasilia in the second semester. The meeting will offer the opportunity of exchanging experiences and exploring possibilities for cooperation in a number of key areas, including e-government, the digital economy, cybersecurity, cybercrime prevention, capacity building activities, international security in cyberspace, and research, development, and innovation.” > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If Chinese interpretations of English terms used here to communicate China's positions are actually what the terms mean in English, I think the meeting is pointing to a fruitful direction. When we read the communiqué document, we'll get to know the "lot of internal obsessive detail". I agree we can discuss them here. Ian, why was there the "fairly messy process hastily arranged"? Are we to suspect that the installation of the co-chairs was a mastermind toward any biased pursuits? CPU ______________________________________ Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku (PhD) University of Nigeria On Jul 3, 2015 12:30 AM, "Ian Peter" wrote: > This is an update and some personal reflections on the NetMundial > Initiative, which held its first full Coordination Council meeting on > June 30 in Sao Paulo. As posted recently by Marilia, the communique > document can be found at > https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/s%C3%A3o-paulo-communiqu%C3%A9-inaugural-council-meeting > and summarises most of the discussions. So below are some more personal > comments. > > Please feel free to copy to other lists. > > The meeting was held in the same room as the original NetMundial > conference which many of us attended (but partitioned to create a smaller > room). In addition to the Council members, seats were available for > observers as well as remote participation. The meeting was hosted and very > well organised by CGI.br > > One feature of the meeting was the speeches by 2 high profile Chinese > delegates attending for the first time (Lu Wei, Chinese Minister for > Cyberspace, and Jack Ma, head of Alibaba). I would imagine transcripts as > well as other documents will be available soon at www.netmundial .org, but > some memories are > > Lu Wei definitely mentioned support for multistakeholderism, but China > watchers might also want to check the transcript or recording for nuances > of meaning here – he also mentioned sovereignty of course. This seems to a > change of some sort for China to mention support for multistakeholderism, > but I would imagine their interpretation of what this means might be > somewhere within the wide range of interpretations already existing. But > what I do read into this is an acknowledgement by China that it will work > with the rest of the world in addressing internet issues. As always, the > devil will be in the detail. > > Lu Wei ( and Jack Ma if my memory serves me correctly) used the phrase > of the internet being “for the development of humankind” This particular > phrase had a history dating back to the early 1980s and the Macbride Report > of UNESCO (Many Voices One World) referring to pre-Internet new media – out > of which the NWICO debates emerged. I was personally pleased to hear the > phrase used in this context. > > There was an interesting discussion on human rights and internet > governance between Lu Wei and Eileen Donahoe and Anriette Esterhuysen. > > Jack Ma gave a very interesting speech as well, referring to development > and engagement of youth in particular. > > It appears that both China and Jack Ma on behalf of Alibaba have indicated > strong support at this stage for the initiative. > > Fadi Chehade in his opening remarks produced some interesting diagrammatic > interpretations of the state of internet governance – these are also > available from www.netmundial.org. He also mentioned the role of Edward > Snowden as a catalyst for the original NMI conference in Sao Paulo – > remarks which I later took on board a little more extensively to thank > Edward Snowden for his contribution and to note that, although there have > since been a few small measures here and there to improve the pervasive > nature of mass surveillance, there was still a lot of improvement needed in > this area. > > The meeting adopted a few procedural documents – including strong support > for consensus decision making. It also, through a fairly messy process > hastily arranged, put in place 5 co-chairs – Jack Ma, Fadi Chehade, > Virgilio Almeida, Eileen Donahoe, and Marilia Maciel. > > There was a lot of internal obsessive detail which we could discuss if > people want to, but basically the intiative is still pretty new and raw and > learning from its mistakes. Much of the meeting was devoted to internal > process. > > There were also some pretty interesting side discussions – I (and others > as well) deliberately raised the internet.org issue, particularly to > feel out policy makers from industry and governments. While there were > divided opinions, there were certainly a lot of people who hadn’t thought > about it yet who need to, and some surprisingly strong opposition to the > initiative from some industry players. I think the discussions were > valuable, with some people having very scant knowledge of the issues which > are being raised and likely to look into them further. > > Otherwise – my general impression is that NMI is getting some structure, > and maybe some extra avenues of financial support as well . The terms of > the inaugural council will run out in June 2016, and it is hard to know > what will happen after that, if anything. The loss of product champion Fadi > Chehade is likely to be a factor as well. > > That’s my initial reactions. I realise that many within civil society have > strong (and in many cases appropriate) reservations about this initiative. > But at the same time, I am glad that as these discussions continue civil > society does have some presence in the discussions and the capacity to > influence events via those who are participating. > > > > Ian Peter > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From williams.deirdre at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 09:09:02 2015 From: williams.deirdre at gmail.com (Deirdre Williams) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 07:09:02 -0600 Subject: [governance] =?UTF-8?Q?=5Bbestbits=5D_NMI_mtg_outcomes=3A_S?= =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A3o_Paulo_communiqu=C3=A9?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Marilia. Deirdre On 1 July 2015 at 18:19, Marilia Maciel wrote: > Dear all, > > > > This document summarises the main outcomes of the inaugural meeting of the > NETmundial Initiative coordinating council. > > > > > https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/são-paulo-communiqué-inaugural-council-meeting > > > > The ToR and the governance and operational framework of NMI are now > approved and co-chairs have been selected. The beta version of the > NETmundial Solutions Map, a tool designed to support information sharing > and collaboration across Internet governance issues, is now open for > content contributions. > > > > Best wishes, > > Marília > > -- > *Marília Maciel* > Pesquisadora Gestora - Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio > Researcher and Coordinator - Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law > School > http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts > > DiploFoundation associate - www.diplomacy.edu > PoliTICs Magazine Advisory Committee - http://www.politics.org.br/ > Subscribe "Digital Rights: Latin America & the Caribbean" - > http://www.digitalrightslac.net/en > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Safe travel home again Deirdre On 2 July 2015 at 17:29, Ian Peter wrote: > This is an update and some personal reflections on the NetMundial > Initiative, which held its first full Coordination Council meeting on > June 30 in Sao Paulo. As posted recently by Marilia, the communique > document can be found at > https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/s%C3%A3o-paulo-communiqu%C3%A9-inaugural-council-meeting > and summarises most of the discussions. So below are some more personal > comments. > > Please feel free to copy to other lists. > > The meeting was held in the same room as the original NetMundial > conference which many of us attended (but partitioned to create a smaller > room). In addition to the Council members, seats were available for > observers as well as remote participation. The meeting was hosted and very > well organised by CGI.br > > One feature of the meeting was the speeches by 2 high profile Chinese > delegates attending for the first time (Lu Wei, Chinese Minister for > Cyberspace, and Jack Ma, head of Alibaba). I would imagine transcripts as > well as other documents will be available soon at www.netmundial .org, but > some memories are > > Lu Wei definitely mentioned support for multistakeholderism, but China > watchers might also want to check the transcript or recording for nuances > of meaning here – he also mentioned sovereignty of course. This seems to a > change of some sort for China to mention support for multistakeholderism, > but I would imagine their interpretation of what this means might be > somewhere within the wide range of interpretations already existing. But > what I do read into this is an acknowledgement by China that it will work > with the rest of the world in addressing internet issues. As always, the > devil will be in the detail. > > Lu Wei ( and Jack Ma if my memory serves me correctly) used the phrase > of the internet being “for the development of humankind” This particular > phrase had a history dating back to the early 1980s and the Macbride Report > of UNESCO (Many Voices One World) referring to pre-Internet new media – out > of which the NWICO debates emerged. I was personally pleased to hear the > phrase used in this context. > > There was an interesting discussion on human rights and internet > governance between Lu Wei and Eileen Donahoe and Anriette Esterhuysen. > > Jack Ma gave a very interesting speech as well, referring to development > and engagement of youth in particular. > > It appears that both China and Jack Ma on behalf of Alibaba have indicated > strong support at this stage for the initiative. > > Fadi Chehade in his opening remarks produced some interesting diagrammatic > interpretations of the state of internet governance – these are also > available from www.netmundial.org. He also mentioned the role of Edward > Snowden as a catalyst for the original NMI conference in Sao Paulo – > remarks which I later took on board a little more extensively to thank > Edward Snowden for his contribution and to note that, although there have > since been a few small measures here and there to improve the pervasive > nature of mass surveillance, there was still a lot of improvement needed in > this area. > > The meeting adopted a few procedural documents – including strong support > for consensus decision making. It also, through a fairly messy process > hastily arranged, put in place 5 co-chairs – Jack Ma, Fadi Chehade, > Virgilio Almeida, Eileen Donahoe, and Marilia Maciel. > > There was a lot of internal obsessive detail which we could discuss if > people want to, but basically the intiative is still pretty new and raw and > learning from its mistakes. Much of the meeting was devoted to internal > process. > > There were also some pretty interesting side discussions – I (and others > as well) deliberately raised the internet.org issue, particularly to > feel out policy makers from industry and governments. While there were > divided opinions, there were certainly a lot of people who hadn’t thought > about it yet who need to, and some surprisingly strong opposition to the > initiative from some industry players. I think the discussions were > valuable, with some people having very scant knowledge of the issues which > are being raised and likely to look into them further. > > Otherwise – my general impression is that NMI is getting some structure, > and maybe some extra avenues of financial support as well . The terms of > the inaugural council will run out in June 2016, and it is hard to know > what will happen after that, if anything. The loss of product champion Fadi > Chehade is likely to be a factor as well. > > That’s my initial reactions. I realise that many within civil society have > strong (and in many cases appropriate) reservations about this initiative. > But at the same time, I am glad that as these discussions continue civil > society does have some presence in the discussions and the capacity to > influence events via those who are participating. > > > > Ian Peter > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Fri Jul 3 13:27:55 2015 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 17:27:55 +0000 Subject: [governance] update on NMI In-Reply-To: <6A131569FE024ACB9378C5604868C705@Toshiba> References: <6A131569FE024ACB9378C5604868C705@Toshiba> Message-ID: <7b40c823bde04a699d5852a9c33248c2@EX13-MBX-13.ad.syr.edu> Ian, Useful writeup. In Chinese-generated media, the NETmundial Initiative is re-named “the Global Internet Governance Alliance” (GIGA) http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-07/01/c_134373596.htm Or are GIGA and NMI different things? From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Ian Peter Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:29 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] update on NMI This is an update and some personal reflections on the NetMundial Initiative, which held its first full Coordination Council meeting on June 30 in Sao Paulo. As posted recently by Marilia, the communique document can be found at https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/s%C3%A3o-paulo-communiqu%C3%A9-inaugural-council-meeting and summarises most of the discussions. So below are some more personal comments. Please feel free to copy to other lists. The meeting was held in the same room as the original NetMundial conference which many of us attended (but partitioned to create a smaller room). In addition to the Council members, seats were available for observers as well as remote participation. The meeting was hosted and very well organised by CGI.br One feature of the meeting was the speeches by 2 high profile Chinese delegates attending for the first time (Lu Wei, Chinese Minister for Cyberspace, and Jack Ma, head of Alibaba). I would imagine transcripts as well as other documents will be available soon at www.netmundial .org, but some memories are Lu Wei definitely mentioned support for multistakeholderism, but China watchers might also want to check the transcript or recording for nuances of meaning here – he also mentioned sovereignty of course. This seems to a change of some sort for China to mention support for multistakeholderism, but I would imagine their interpretation of what this means might be somewhere within the wide range of interpretations already existing. But what I do read into this is an acknowledgement by China that it will work with the rest of the world in addressing internet issues. As always, the devil will be in the detail. Lu Wei ( and Jack Ma if my memory serves me correctly) used the phrase of the internet being “for the development of humankind” This particular phrase had a history dating back to the early 1980s and the Macbride Report of UNESCO (Many Voices One World) referring to pre-Internet new media – out of which the NWICO debates emerged. I was personally pleased to hear the phrase used in this context. There was an interesting discussion on human rights and internet governance between Lu Wei and Eileen Donahoe and Anriette Esterhuysen. Jack Ma gave a very interesting speech as well, referring to development and engagement of youth in particular. It appears that both China and Jack Ma on behalf of Alibaba have indicated strong support at this stage for the initiative. Fadi Chehade in his opening remarks produced some interesting diagrammatic interpretations of the state of internet governance – these are also available from www.netmundial.org. He also mentioned the role of Edward Snowden as a catalyst for the original NMI conference in Sao Paulo – remarks which I later took on board a little more extensively to thank Edward Snowden for his contribution and to note that, although there have since been a few small measures here and there to improve the pervasive nature of mass surveillance, there was still a lot of improvement needed in this area. The meeting adopted a few procedural documents – including strong support for consensus decision making. It also, through a fairly messy process hastily arranged, put in place 5 co-chairs – Jack Ma, Fadi Chehade, Virgilio Almeida, Eileen Donahoe, and Marilia Maciel. There was a lot of internal obsessive detail which we could discuss if people want to, but basically the intiative is still pretty new and raw and learning from its mistakes. Much of the meeting was devoted to internal process. There were also some pretty interesting side discussions – I (and others as well) deliberately raised the internet.org issue, particularly to feel out policy makers from industry and governments. While there were divided opinions, there were certainly a lot of people who hadn’t thought about it yet who need to, and some surprisingly strong opposition to the initiative from some industry players. I think the discussions were valuable, with some people having very scant knowledge of the issues which are being raised and likely to look into them further. Otherwise – my general impression is that NMI is getting some structure, and maybe some extra avenues of financial support as well . The terms of the inaugural council will run out in June 2016, and it is hard to know what will happen after that, if anything. The loss of product champion Fadi Chehade is likely to be a factor as well. That’s my initial reactions. I realise that many within civil society have strong (and in many cases appropriate) reservations about this initiative. But at the same time, I am glad that as these discussions continue civil society does have some presence in the discussions and the capacity to influence events via those who are participating. Ian Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From bzs at world.std.com Fri Jul 3 14:07:46 2015 From: bzs at world.std.com (Barry Shein) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 14:07:46 -0400 Subject: [governance] "level playing MSism" (was Re: Jack Ma, founder of Alibaba...) In-Reply-To: <20150703120707.2f51ebf4@quill> References: <20150702165537.158f4317@quill> <20150703120707.2f51ebf4@quill> Message-ID: <21910.53106.149767.838284@world.std.com> On July 3, 2015 at 12:07 nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) wrote: > > > never an approach that heightens > > State thirst for "closed" Internet, cyber armament and privacy > > intrusion. > > I think we are all in agreement in being opposed to that kind of > approach. Well someone must be in favor of that or it wouldn't be much of a concern would it? I suppose it depends on who precisely "we" is. -- -Barry Shein The World | bzs at TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo* -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Fri Jul 3 14:19:45 2015 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 20:19:45 +0200 Subject: [governance] "level playing MSism" (was Re: Jack Ma, founder of Alibaba...) In-Reply-To: <21910.53106.149767.838284@world.std.com> References: <20150702165537.158f4317@quill> <20150703120707.2f51ebf4@quill> <21910.53106.149767.838284@world.std.com> Message-ID: <20150703201945.757a477d@quill> On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 14:07:46 -0400 Barry Shein wrote: > On July 3, 2015 at 12:07 nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) wrote: > > > > > never an approach that heightens > > > State thirst for "closed" Internet, cyber armament and privacy > > > intrusion. > > > > I think we are all in agreement in being opposed to that kind of > > approach. > > Well someone must be in favor of that or it wouldn't be much of a > concern would it? > > I suppose it depends on who precisely "we" is. I meant "we" in the sense of "the people who participate in the discussions on this list". Greetings, Norbert -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Fri Jul 3 15:05:42 2015 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 05:05:42 +1000 Subject: [governance] update on NMI In-Reply-To: <7b40c823bde04a699d5852a9c33248c2@EX13-MBX-13.ad.syr.edu> References: <6A131569FE024ACB9378C5604868C705@Toshiba> <7b40c823bde04a699d5852a9c33248c2@EX13-MBX-13.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: Hi Milton, yes I saw those references. I don’t know how that phrase came into play. I think the GIGA is something created in loose translation, certainly the references are to NMI. Ian From: Milton L Mueller Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 3:27 AM To: mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; 'Ian Peter' Subject: RE: [governance] update on NMI Ian, Useful writeup. In Chinese-generated media, the NETmundial Initiative is re-named “the Global Internet Governance Alliance” (GIGA) http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-07/01/c_134373596.htm Or are GIGA and NMI different things? From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Ian Peter Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:29 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] update on NMI This is an update and some personal reflections on the NetMundial Initiative, which held its first full Coordination Council meeting on June 30 in Sao Paulo. As posted recently by Marilia, the communique document can be found at https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/s%C3%A3o-paulo-communiqu%C3%A9-inaugural-council-meeting and summarises most of the discussions. So below are some more personal comments. Please feel free to copy to other lists. The meeting was held in the same room as the original NetMundial conference which many of us attended (but partitioned to create a smaller room). In addition to the Council members, seats were available for observers as well as remote participation. The meeting was hosted and very well organised by CGI.br One feature of the meeting was the speeches by 2 high profile Chinese delegates attending for the first time (Lu Wei, Chinese Minister for Cyberspace, and Jack Ma, head of Alibaba). I would imagine transcripts as well as other documents will be available soon at www.netmundial .org, but some memories are Lu Wei definitely mentioned support for multistakeholderism, but China watchers might also want to check the transcript or recording for nuances of meaning here – he also mentioned sovereignty of course. This seems to a change of some sort for China to mention support for multistakeholderism, but I would imagine their interpretation of what this means might be somewhere within the wide range of interpretations already existing. But what I do read into this is an acknowledgement by China that it will work with the rest of the world in addressing internet issues. As always, the devil will be in the detail. Lu Wei ( and Jack Ma if my memory serves me correctly) used the phrase of the internet being “for the development of humankind” This particular phrase had a history dating back to the early 1980s and the Macbride Report of UNESCO (Many Voices One World) referring to pre-Internet new media – out of which the NWICO debates emerged. I was personally pleased to hear the phrase used in this context. There was an interesting discussion on human rights and internet governance between Lu Wei and Eileen Donahoe and Anriette Esterhuysen. Jack Ma gave a very interesting speech as well, referring to development and engagement of youth in particular. It appears that both China and Jack Ma on behalf of Alibaba have indicated strong support at this stage for the initiative. Fadi Chehade in his opening remarks produced some interesting diagrammatic interpretations of the state of internet governance – these are also available from www.netmundial.org. He also mentioned the role of Edward Snowden as a catalyst for the original NMI conference in Sao Paulo – remarks which I later took on board a little more extensively to thank Edward Snowden for his contribution and to note that, although there have since been a few small measures here and there to improve the pervasive nature of mass surveillance, there was still a lot of improvement needed in this area. The meeting adopted a few procedural documents – including strong support for consensus decision making. It also, through a fairly messy process hastily arranged, put in place 5 co-chairs – Jack Ma, Fadi Chehade, Virgilio Almeida, Eileen Donahoe, and Marilia Maciel. There was a lot of internal obsessive detail which we could discuss if people want to, but basically the intiative is still pretty new and raw and learning from its mistakes. Much of the meeting was devoted to internal process. There were also some pretty interesting side discussions – I (and others as well) deliberately raised the internet.org issue, particularly to feel out policy makers from industry and governments. While there were divided opinions, there were certainly a lot of people who hadn’t thought about it yet who need to, and some surprisingly strong opposition to the initiative from some industry players. I think the discussions were valuable, with some people having very scant knowledge of the issues which are being raised and likely to look into them further. Otherwise – my general impression is that NMI is getting some structure, and maybe some extra avenues of financial support as well . The terms of the inaugural council will run out in June 2016, and it is hard to know what will happen after that, if anything. The loss of product champion Fadi Chehade is likely to be a factor as well. That’s my initial reactions. I realise that many within civil society have strong (and in many cases appropriate) reservations about this initiative. But at the same time, I am glad that as these discussions continue civil society does have some presence in the discussions and the capacity to influence events via those who are participating. Ian Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Fri Jul 3 15:12:03 2015 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 05:12:03 +1000 Subject: [governance] update on NMI In-Reply-To: References: <6A131569FE024ACB9378C5604868C705@Toshiba> Message-ID: Hi CPU, No I don’t think there was a conspiracy here. I think there was a desire to move a slow moving process along more quickly, and particularly to get in place some sort of leadership structure so that the Secretariat of NMI had some guidance and direction in moving forward. So I think there was a general consensus that it would be a good idea to get a chair structure in place quickly, but the result was a rushed process that was, as I described, fairly messy. However the end result I think is quite workable, and definitely better than the previous position. Ian Peter From: Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 9:22 PM To: Ian Peter ; governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] update on NMI This report is impressive. If Chinese interpretations of English terms used here to communicate China's positions are actually what the terms mean in English, I think the meeting is pointing to a fruitful direction. When we read the communiqué document, we'll get to know the "lot of internal obsessive detail". I agree we can discuss them here. Ian, why was there the "fairly messy process hastily arranged"? Are we to suspect that the installation of the co-chairs was a mastermind toward any biased pursuits? CPU ______________________________________ Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku (PhD) University of Nigeria On Jul 3, 2015 12:30 AM, "Ian Peter" wrote: This is an update and some personal reflections on the NetMundial Initiative, which held its first full Coordination Council meeting on June 30 in Sao Paulo. As posted recently by Marilia, the communique document can be found at https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/s%C3%A3o-paulo-communiqu%C3%A9-inaugural-council-meeting and summarises most of the discussions. So below are some more personal comments. Please feel free to copy to other lists. The meeting was held in the same room as the original NetMundial conference which many of us attended (but partitioned to create a smaller room). In addition to the Council members, seats were available for observers as well as remote participation. The meeting was hosted and very well organised by CGI.br One feature of the meeting was the speeches by 2 high profile Chinese delegates attending for the first time (Lu Wei, Chinese Minister for Cyberspace, and Jack Ma, head of Alibaba). I would imagine transcripts as well as other documents will be available soon at www.netmundial .org, but some memories are Lu Wei definitely mentioned support for multistakeholderism, but China watchers might also want to check the transcript or recording for nuances of meaning here – he also mentioned sovereignty of course. This seems to a change of some sort for China to mention support for multistakeholderism, but I would imagine their interpretation of what this means might be somewhere within the wide range of interpretations already existing. But what I do read into this is an acknowledgement by China that it will work with the rest of the world in addressing internet issues. As always, the devil will be in the detail. Lu Wei ( and Jack Ma if my memory serves me correctly) used the phrase of the internet being “for the development of humankind” This particular phrase had a history dating back to the early 1980s and the Macbride Report of UNESCO (Many Voices One World) referring to pre-Internet new media – out of which the NWICO debates emerged. I was personally pleased to hear the phrase used in this context. There was an interesting discussion on human rights and internet governance between Lu Wei and Eileen Donahoe and Anriette Esterhuysen. Jack Ma gave a very interesting speech as well, referring to development and engagement of youth in particular. It appears that both China and Jack Ma on behalf of Alibaba have indicated strong support at this stage for the initiative. Fadi Chehade in his opening remarks produced some interesting diagrammatic interpretations of the state of internet governance – these are also available from www.netmundial.org. He also mentioned the role of Edward Snowden as a catalyst for the original NMI conference in Sao Paulo – remarks which I later took on board a little more extensively to thank Edward Snowden for his contribution and to note that, although there have since been a few small measures here and there to improve the pervasive nature of mass surveillance, there was still a lot of improvement needed in this area. The meeting adopted a few procedural documents – including strong support for consensus decision making. It also, through a fairly messy process hastily arranged, put in place 5 co-chairs – Jack Ma, Fadi Chehade, Virgilio Almeida, Eileen Donahoe, and Marilia Maciel. There was a lot of internal obsessive detail which we could discuss if people want to, but basically the intiative is still pretty new and raw and learning from its mistakes. Much of the meeting was devoted to internal process. There were also some pretty interesting side discussions – I (and others as well) deliberately raised the internet.org issue, particularly to feel out policy makers from industry and governments. While there were divided opinions, there were certainly a lot of people who hadn’t thought about it yet who need to, and some surprisingly strong opposition to the initiative from some industry players. I think the discussions were valuable, with some people having very scant knowledge of the issues which are being raised and likely to look into them further. Otherwise – my general impression is that NMI is getting some structure, and maybe some extra avenues of financial support as well . The terms of the inaugural council will run out in June 2016, and it is hard to know what will happen after that, if anything. The loss of product champion Fadi Chehade is likely to be a factor as well. That’s my initial reactions. I realise that many within civil society have strong (and in many cases appropriate) reservations about this initiative. But at the same time, I am glad that as these discussions continue civil society does have some presence in the discussions and the capacity to influence events via those who are participating. Ian Peter ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Sat Jul 4 01:27:37 2015 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:27:37 +0200 Subject: AW: [governance] update on NMI References: <6A131569FE024ACB9378C5604868C705@Toshiba> <7b40c823bde04a699d5852a9c33248c2@EX13-MBX-13.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E18@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Hi Milton, when Mao translated (during his long march) Karl Marx from German into Chinese he did it his own way. Later, somebody re-translated Maos version of Karl Marx into German and it was a different book :-))) GIGA is NOT GIGANET (my acronym from Rathen, if you remember to Commander at the Festung Königstein). GIGA is Chinese for NMI. w -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Milton L Mueller Gesendet: Fr 03.07.2015 19:27 An: 'governance at lists.igcaucus.org'; 'Ian Peter' Betreff: RE: [governance] update on NMI Ian, Useful writeup. In Chinese-generated media, the NETmundial Initiative is re-named "the Global Internet Governance Alliance" (GIGA) http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-07/01/c_134373596.htm Or are GIGA and NMI different things? From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Ian Peter Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:29 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] update on NMI This is an update and some personal reflections on the NetMundial Initiative, which held its first full Coordination Council meeting on June 30 in Sao Paulo. As posted recently by Marilia, the communique document can be found at https://www.netmundial.org/blog/secretariat/s%C3%A3o-paulo-communiqu%C3%A9-inaugural-council-meeting and summarises most of the discussions. So below are some more personal comments. Please feel free to copy to other lists. The meeting was held in the same room as the original NetMundial conference which many of us attended (but partitioned to create a smaller room). In addition to the Council members, seats were available for observers as well as remote participation. The meeting was hosted and very well organised by CGI.br One feature of the meeting was the speeches by 2 high profile Chinese delegates attending for the first time (Lu Wei, Chinese Minister for Cyberspace, and Jack Ma, head of Alibaba). I would imagine transcripts as well as other documents will be available soon at www.netmundial .org, but some memories are Lu Wei definitely mentioned support for multistakeholderism, but China watchers might also want to check the transcript or recording for nuances of meaning here - he also mentioned sovereignty of course. This seems to a change of some sort for China to mention support for multistakeholderism, but I would imagine their interpretation of what this means might be somewhere within the wide range of interpretations already existing. But what I do read into this is an acknowledgement by China that it will work with the rest of the world in addressing internet issues. As always, the devil will be in the detail. Lu Wei ( and Jack Ma if my memory serves me correctly) used the phrase of the internet being "for the development of humankind" This particular phrase had a history dating back to the early 1980s and the Macbride Report of UNESCO (Many Voices One World) referring to pre-Internet new media - out of which the NWICO debates emerged. I was personally pleased to hear the phrase used in this context. There was an interesting discussion on human rights and internet governance between Lu Wei and Eileen Donahoe and Anriette Esterhuysen. Jack Ma gave a very interesting speech as well, referring to development and engagement of youth in particular. It appears that both China and Jack Ma on behalf of Alibaba have indicated strong support at this stage for the initiative. Fadi Chehade in his opening remarks produced some interesting diagrammatic interpretations of the state of internet governance - these are also available from www.netmundial.org. He also mentioned the role of Edward Snowden as a catalyst for the original NMI conference in Sao Paulo - remarks which I later took on board a little more extensively to thank Edward Snowden for his contribution and to note that, although there have since been a few small measures here and there to improve the pervasive nature of mass surveillance, there was still a lot of improvement needed in this area. The meeting adopted a few procedural documents - including strong support for consensus decision making. It also, through a fairly messy process hastily arranged, put in place 5 co-chairs - Jack Ma, Fadi Chehade, Virgilio Almeida, Eileen Donahoe, and Marilia Maciel. There was a lot of internal obsessive detail which we could discuss if people want to, but basically the intiative is still pretty new and raw and learning from its mistakes. Much of the meeting was devoted to internal process. There were also some pretty interesting side discussions - I (and others as well) deliberately raised the internet.org issue, particularly to feel out policy makers from industry and governments. While there were divided opinions, there were certainly a lot of people who hadn't thought about it yet who need to, and some surprisingly strong opposition to the initiative from some industry players. I think the discussions were valuable, with some people having very scant knowledge of the issues which are being raised and likely to look into them further. Otherwise - my general impression is that NMI is getting some structure, and maybe some extra avenues of financial support as well . The terms of the inaugural council will run out in June 2016, and it is hard to know what will happen after that, if anything. The loss of product champion Fadi Chehade is likely to be a factor as well. That's my initial reactions. I realise that many within civil society have strong (and in many cases appropriate) reservations about this initiative. But at the same time, I am glad that as these discussions continue civil society does have some presence in the discussions and the capacity to influence events via those who are participating. Ian Peter -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 06:11:21 2015 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 10:11:21 +0000 Subject: [governance] update on NMI In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E18@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <6A131569FE024ACB9378C5604868C705@Toshiba> <7b40c823bde04a699d5852a9c33248c2@EX13-MBX-13.ad.syr.edu> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E18@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: GIGA... that seems to me a fairly accurate translation of the spirit of NETmundial, and a very good acronym which only GIGAnet can compete with! /Brought to you by Mawaki's droid agent -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 04:48:23 2015 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 08:48:23 +0000 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Jack Ma, founder of Alibaba, elected co-chairman of Global Internet Governance Alliance In-Reply-To: <20150702165537.158f4317@quill> References: <20150702165537.158f4317@quill> Message-ID: Perhaps the reading of the term "explanation" in this context by Sonigitu is itself part of the complexity of multicultural communication. Interestingly enough, while requesting an "explanation" may sound rough to some, the verbal form such as in "can you please explain" might sound fine. Otherwise, requesting a "clarification" might come across as more neutral... to more people? But then again, some might feel differently. Good luck! /Brought to you by Mawaki's droid agent On Jul 2, 2015 2:55 PM, "Norbert Bollow" wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 14:54:38 +0100 > Sonigitu Ekpe wrote: > > > Hello Nobert, > > > > It is great to have an opinion but it is wrong to request for an > > explanation from one who is not your subordinate. If am wrong correct > > me. > > I strongly disagree. [Or maybe you simply understood the word > "explanation" in "I'd be interested in an explanation of what you see as > awesome about this. (Or was the remark intended to be an expression of > irony???)" differently from how I meant it?] > > In fact there are various kinds of situations where requesting an > explanation is not only not wrong, but the appropriate step to take. > > For example, my recent request for an explanation was in a context of > intercultural communications, where it was not totally clear to me > whether a remark was meant as irony or not. So I think that there was > nothing wrong with requesting an explanation. The alternative would > have been to simply make an assumption of my own on how I think that > the remark was meant. > > More generally, there are many kinds of situations where communication > is not likely to achieve its objectives when requests for explanations > are not made or not honored. On the other hand, it is also possible for > requests for explanations to hinder rather than help the objectives > which the communication process is intended to achieve or help achieve. > That will depend very much on many aspects of the situation, but I > don't see how whether someone is my subordinate or not would enter into > it, except that for a subordinate I would in regard to some topic areas > have the right to not only request but in fact demand an explanation. > > Greetings, > Norbert > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng Sun Jul 5 15:19:42 2015 From: udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng (Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 20:19:42 +0100 Subject: [governance] update on NMI In-Reply-To: References: <6A131569FE024ACB9378C5604868C705@Toshiba> <7b40c823bde04a699d5852a9c33248c2@EX13-MBX-13.ad.syr.edu> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E18@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: Many thanks, Ian, for your clarification. @Mawaki: That's exactly what I had wanted to add. I believe a smart, intelligent Chinese (journalist?) didn't want the people to wonder what NetMundial meant and probably question what the hell their country had to do with what they might think was meaningless. That person really did a good job in this wise. In my mind, that coinage is explicit and more meaningful even to many people in other countries. What if the initiative is rebaptized to that? CPU ______________________________ Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku (PhD) University of Nigeria -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From joly at punkcast.com Sun Jul 5 22:49:02 2015 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 22:49:02 -0400 Subject: [governance] update on NMI In-Reply-To: References: <6A131569FE024ACB9378C5604868C705@Toshiba> <7b40c823bde04a699d5852a9c33248c2@EX13-MBX-13.ad.syr.edu> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E18@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku < udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng> wrote: > What if the initiative is rebaptized to that? ​Personally I don't kmow that's a good idea. Governance​ implies control, and is narrow. Initiative is a better word, and a wider remit. j -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Mon Jul 6 03:47:28 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 13:17:28 +0530 Subject: [governance] India Message-ID: <559A3290.3080508@itforchange.net> Some of you may haveread reports on India's new turn with regard to global IG, towards focussing on bilateral cooperation with the US. (Brazil too seems to be doing a similar thing.) It would certainly have a significant bearing on its how much energy it may correspondingly invest in UN based forums or possibilities, though the exact impact may be difficult to judge at this stage. As perhaps can be expected, I have written criticising this new turn as coming from lack of appreciation of the issues at stake. Please see below. http://thewire.in/2015/07/06/why-is-india-a-follower-in-cyberspace-when-it-can-lead/ Here are some voices from Indian civil society that see this new turn in a rather positive light. In fact I wrote partly in response to these two articles and quote them. http://thewire.in/2015/06/22/indias-new-multistakeholder-line-could-be-a-gamechanger-in-global-cyberpolitics/ http://thewire.in/2015/06/24/the-i-in-the-internet-must-also-stand-for-india/ As the real geo-economic contours of global Internet power become clearer, countries like India and Brazil will have to again change their tack, but they would have lost a lot of momentum. Very unfortunate for all developing countries, because without these leaders there is not much to be expected on global Internet governance for developing countries as a group. Among developing countries, China is the only one that is comfortably placed and knows what it is doing. This is due to its unique political and as well as economic control over its own Internet. China currently does not see great value in seeking strong global IG regimes, because it is anyway able to get all that it wants. Plus, in absence of strong global IG regimes, it is the Chinese domestic IG model that becomes increasingly more appealing to developing countries and China can help them with it, in the process drawing various kinds of advantages. There are news of a recent South Africa and China agreement which may go towards some such direction. parminder -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I recall seeing you on a panel there so I am sure you saw it too. Neither is cooperation with the US and a variety of other countries on a fairly wide range of issues. > On 06-Jul-2015, at 1:17 pm, parminder wrote: > > Some of you may have read reports on India's new turn with regard to global IG, towards focussing on bilateral cooperation with the US. (Brazil too seems to be doing a similar thing.) It would certainly have a significant bearing on its how much energy it may correspondingly invest in UN based forums or possibilities, though the exact impact may be difficult to judge at this stage. > > As perhaps can be expected, I have written criticising this new turn as coming from lack of appreciation of the issues at stake. Please see below. > > http://thewire.in/2015/07/06/why-is-india-a-follower-in-cyberspace-when-it-can-lead/ > > Here are some voices from Indian civil society that see this new turn in a rather positive light. In fact I wrote partly in response to these two articles and quote them. > > http://thewire.in/2015/06/22/indias-new-multistakeholder-line-could-be-a-gamechanger-in-global-cyberpolitics/ > > http://thewire.in/2015/06/24/the-i-in-the-internet-must-also-stand-for-india/ > > > As the real geo-economic contours of global Internet power become clearer, countries like India and Brazil will have to again change their tack, but they would have lost a lot of momentum. Very unfortunate for all developing countries, because without these leaders there is not much to be expected on global Internet governance for developing countries as a group. > > Among developing countries, China is the only one that is comfortably placed and knows what it is doing. This is due to its unique political and as well as economic control over its own Internet. China currently does not see great value in seeking strong global IG regimes, because it is anyway able to get all that it wants. Plus, in absence of strong global IG regimes, it is the Chinese domestic IG model that becomes increasingly more appealing to developing countries and China can help them with it, in the process drawing various kinds of advantages. There are news of a recent South Africa and China agreement which may go towards some such direction. > > parminder > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From dogwallah at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 10:22:52 2015 From: dogwallah at gmail.com (McTim) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 10:22:52 -0400 Subject: [governance] India In-Reply-To: <44A47047-71D2-4B6A-B8A4-443F422B4EE1@hserus.net> References: <559A3290.3080508@itforchange.net> <44A47047-71D2-4B6A-B8A4-443F422B4EE1@hserus.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:56 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Multistakeholder is not new. Correct, it is the way that names, numbers and protocols have been developed for the last 35ish years. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Mon Jul 6 14:21:22 2015 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 15:21:22 -0300 Subject: [governance] Internet Ungovernance Forum Brasil In-Reply-To: <558C2277.70406@riseup.net> References: <558C2277.70406@riseup.net> Message-ID: <559AC722.3040201@cafonso.ca> Dear people, I write this, as usual, in my personal capacity, now with the help of a few other colleagues. Personally I have nothing against "unconferences" or parallel meetings. Every group has the right to organize events on their own taking advantage of the occasion. However, the justifications for the "unconference" at the 10th IGF, as presented in the announcement message below, start from false premises. IGF is a UN event with special characteristics -- it is a pluralist space (unlike, for example, the recently proposed Internet Social Forum, which requires previous adherence to a letter of commitments, in practice excluding many groups and individuals from the dialogue). IGF is what the different stakeholders make of it, and organized civil society has always had space to propose and participate since the very first IGF in 2006. I recommend that the promoters of parallel events overview the more than 100 workshops approved for the upcoming IGF to conclude that the event is far from being "controlled by business and governments". The workshops' list (and descriptions) is here: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/workshop-proposals/list-of-published-workshop-proposals Here are some examples of workshops, among many others, which deal with issues of obvious interest to civil society, with multistakeholder participation (as required by IGF): No. 10 FOSS & a Free, Open Internet: Synergies for Development No. 31 The “Right to be Forgotten” Rulings and their Implications No. 49 No Grey Areas – Against Sexual Exploitation of Children No. 60 Benchmarking ICT companies on digital rights No. 68 Can civil society impact Global Internet Governance? No. 96 #AfricanInternetRights: whose rights are these anyway? No. 134 Organising an Internet Social Forum - Occupy the Internet No. 152 Political dissent & online anonymity in developing countries No. 186 A multistakeholder and humanrights approach to cybersecurity No. 188 Spectrum allocations: challenges & opportunities at the edge No. 214 Internet interconnection under regulatory pressure No. 224 Civil Society and Information Controls in the Global South No. 226 Internet governance and Open Government Data initiatives No. 239 Bitcoin, Blockchain and Beyond: FLASH HELP! No. 242 The Manila Principles on Intermediary Liability Workshops might be flash sessions, panels or roundtables, lasting from 30 to 90 minutes. There are also the "dynamic coalitions", organized groups of people and entities working together on several crucial themes independently of the IGF (but stimulated by it and which hold meetings during the event): Dynamic Coalition on Accessibility and Disability Dynamic Coalition on Child Online Safety Dynamic Coalition on Core Internet Values Dynamic Coalition on Freedom of Expression and Freedom of the Media on the Internet Dynamic Coalition on Gender and Internet Governance Dynamic Coalition on Internet and Climate Change Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles Dynamic Coalition on Network Neutrality Dynamic Coalition on Platform Responsibility (DC PR) Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries Dynamic Coalition on the Internet of Things Youth Coalition on Internet Governance It is relevant to notice that most of the more than 100 workshops accepted this year were proposed by civil society organizations. Proposals by governments and intergovernmental organizations were just a few. Information on the proposing organizations is on the IGF Web site. Also, nearly half of the approved workshops were proposed by organizations from developing countries. The Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG/IGF) recommends that in every workshop and main sessions there should be balanced participation of panelists, discussants and other invitees taking into account the diversity of nations, continents, sectors (government, business, civil society, technical/academic community), and gender. This diversity has been a relevant factor in approving the workshops, and the IGF secretariat will work together with workshops' organizers to make sure this directive is taken into account. I notice also that the promoters of the unconference call "on our participants to resist seeing the problems of the Internet as only technological and void of its materiality." It is quite possible that other forums or entities, according to their scopes and goals, treat the Internet from a purely technical point of view. This is certainly not the case of the IGF, created precisely as a dialogue for non-technical questions which do not find space in other forums. A rapid reading of the workshops' descriptions listed above illustrates this fact quite well. There are just a few approved workshops which limit themselves to technical issues. Nearly all try to consider social, cultural, economic and political aspects related to the development and use of the Internet, always with a multistakeholder approach. I strongly recommend that you all participate in the IGF, either remotely or in person, without excluding participation in other parallel events as you wish, of course. fraternal regards --c.a. On 06/25/2015 12:47 PM, willi uebelherr wrote: > > Dear friends, > > 2014 we had the Internet Ungovernance Forum in Istanbul in Turkey. Now, > this year, this people organize it in Brasil. > > I think, this is the most important event in this year to the theme: > Internet Governance. > > many greetings, willi > Porto Alegre, Brasil > > > Internet Ungovernance Forum Brasil > November 2015 > João Pessoa - Paraíba, Brasil > http://iuf.partidopirata.org/index-en.html > > Internet Ungovernance Forum Brasil is for those of us who demand free, > secure, and open internet for all! > > We're organizing the Internet Ungovernance Forum on November 2015, for > everyone who demand that fundamental freedoms, openness, unity and net > neutrality remain the building blocks of the Internet. Our objective is > to talk about the true and real problems of the internet, how can we > solve them and to chart a path for action. > > Our forum will be in parallel to the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) > 2015 which will also be held in João Pessoa in november. Interested > parties all around the world will join and follow this important event. > However, we see that at IGF the most urgent problems of the Internet do > not get proper attention. Due to its format, the main perpetrators of > many of the Internet's problems, for example the governments and > corporations, are getting representation in IGF that they don’t deserve. > Given these circumstances, we decided to take initiative to defend the > Internet as we know it and to create a parallel space to raise the > voices of civil society initiatives, activists and common people. > > For us, the most vital problems today are censorship and freedom of > speech; surveillance and privacy; excessive commercialization and > super-monopolies; protective, prohibitionist and conservative governance > approaches; awful governance examples as in the case of Brasil and the > list goes on. Further, we do not see any of these problems independent > of the greater political, social and economic contexts in which the > Internet and related digital infrastructures are embedded in. > > We want to reclaim the Internet as a fundamental infrastructure of our > societies, cities, education, health, work, media, communications, > culture and everyday activities. > > We call on our participants to resist seeing the problems of the > Internet as only technological and void of its materiality. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From george.sadowsky at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 14:31:52 2015 From: george.sadowsky at gmail.com (George Sadowsky) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:31:52 -0400 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Internet Ungovernance Forum Brasil In-Reply-To: <559AC722.3040201@cafonso.ca> References: <558C2277.70406@riseup.net> <559AC722.3040201@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: Carlos, Thank you for your comprehensive note and for being a voice of reason. IGF truly _is_ what different stakeholders make of it. George On Jul 6, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > Dear people, > > I write this, as usual, in my personal capacity, now with the help of a > few other colleagues. > > Personally I have nothing against "unconferences" or parallel meetings. > Every group has the right to organize events on their own taking > advantage of the occasion. > > However, the justifications for the "unconference" at the 10th IGF, as > presented in the announcement message below, start from false premises. > IGF is a UN event with special characteristics -- it is a pluralist > space (unlike, for example, the recently proposed Internet Social Forum, > which requires previous adherence to a letter of commitments, in > practice excluding many groups and individuals from the dialogue). > > IGF is what the different stakeholders make of it, and organized civil > society has always had space to propose and participate since the very > first IGF in 2006. I recommend that the promoters of parallel events > overview the more than 100 workshops approved for the upcoming IGF to > conclude that the event is far from being "controlled by business and > governments". The workshops' list (and descriptions) is here: > > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/workshop-proposals/list-of-published-workshop-proposals > > Here are some examples of workshops, among many others, which deal with > issues of obvious interest to civil society, with multistakeholder > participation (as required by IGF): > > No. 10 FOSS & a Free, Open Internet: Synergies for Development > No. 31 The “Right to be Forgotten” Rulings and their Implications > No. 49 No Grey Areas – Against Sexual Exploitation of Children > No. 60 Benchmarking ICT companies on digital rights > No. 68 Can civil society impact Global Internet Governance? > No. 96 #AfricanInternetRights: whose rights are these anyway? > No. 134 Organising an Internet Social Forum - Occupy the Internet > No. 152 Political dissent & online anonymity in developing countries > No. 186 A multistakeholder and humanrights approach to cybersecurity > No. 188 Spectrum allocations: challenges & opportunities at the edge > No. 214 Internet interconnection under regulatory pressure > No. 224 Civil Society and Information Controls in the Global South > No. 226 Internet governance and Open Government Data initiatives > No. 239 Bitcoin, Blockchain and Beyond: FLASH HELP! > No. 242 The Manila Principles on Intermediary Liability > > Workshops might be flash sessions, panels or roundtables, lasting from > 30 to 90 minutes. There are also the "dynamic coalitions", organized > groups of people and entities working together on several crucial themes > independently of the IGF (but stimulated by it and which hold meetings > during the event): > > Dynamic Coalition on Accessibility and Disability > Dynamic Coalition on Child Online Safety > Dynamic Coalition on Core Internet Values > Dynamic Coalition on Freedom of Expression and Freedom of the Media on > the Internet > Dynamic Coalition on Gender and Internet Governance > Dynamic Coalition on Internet and Climate Change > Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles > Dynamic Coalition on Network Neutrality > Dynamic Coalition on Platform Responsibility (DC PR) > Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries > Dynamic Coalition on the Internet of Things > Youth Coalition on Internet Governance > > It is relevant to notice that most of the more than 100 workshops > accepted this year were proposed by civil society organizations. > Proposals by governments and intergovernmental organizations were just a > few. Information on the proposing organizations is on the IGF Web site. > Also, nearly half of the approved workshops were proposed by > organizations from developing countries. > > The Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG/IGF) recommends that in every > workshop and main sessions there should be balanced participation of > panelists, discussants and other invitees taking into account the > diversity of nations, continents, sectors (government, business, civil > society, technical/academic community), and gender. This diversity has > been a relevant factor in approving the workshops, and the IGF > secretariat will work together with workshops' organizers to make sure > this directive is taken into account. > > I notice also that the promoters of the unconference call "on our > participants to resist seeing the problems of the Internet as only > technological and void of its materiality." It is quite possible that > other forums or entities, according to their scopes and goals, treat the > Internet from a purely technical point of view. This is certainly not > the case of the IGF, created precisely as a dialogue for non-technical > questions which do not find space in other forums. A rapid reading of > the workshops' descriptions listed above illustrates this fact quite > well. There are just a few approved workshops which limit themselves to > technical issues. Nearly all try to consider social, cultural, economic > and political aspects related to the development and use of the > Internet, always with a multistakeholder approach. > > I strongly recommend that you all participate in the IGF, either > remotely or in person, without excluding participation in other parallel > events as you wish, of course. > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > > On 06/25/2015 12:47 PM, willi uebelherr wrote: >> >> Dear friends, >> >> 2014 we had the Internet Ungovernance Forum in Istanbul in Turkey. Now, >> this year, this people organize it in Brasil. >> >> I think, this is the most important event in this year to the theme: >> Internet Governance. >> >> many greetings, willi >> Porto Alegre, Brasil >> >> >> Internet Ungovernance Forum Brasil >> November 2015 >> João Pessoa - Paraíba, Brasil >> http://iuf.partidopirata.org/index-en.html >> >> Internet Ungovernance Forum Brasil is for those of us who demand free, >> secure, and open internet for all! >> >> We're organizing the Internet Ungovernance Forum on November 2015, for >> everyone who demand that fundamental freedoms, openness, unity and net >> neutrality remain the building blocks of the Internet. Our objective is >> to talk about the true and real problems of the internet, how can we >> solve them and to chart a path for action. >> >> Our forum will be in parallel to the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) >> 2015 which will also be held in João Pessoa in november. Interested >> parties all around the world will join and follow this important event. >> However, we see that at IGF the most urgent problems of the Internet do >> not get proper attention. Due to its format, the main perpetrators of >> many of the Internet's problems, for example the governments and >> corporations, are getting representation in IGF that they don’t deserve. >> Given these circumstances, we decided to take initiative to defend the >> Internet as we know it and to create a parallel space to raise the >> voices of civil society initiatives, activists and common people. >> >> For us, the most vital problems today are censorship and freedom of >> speech; surveillance and privacy; excessive commercialization and >> super-monopolies; protective, prohibitionist and conservative governance >> approaches; awful governance examples as in the case of Brasil and the >> list goes on. Further, we do not see any of these problems independent >> of the greater political, social and economic contexts in which the >> Internet and related digital infrastructures are embedded in. >> >> We want to reclaim the Internet as a fundamental infrastructure of our >> societies, cities, education, health, work, media, communications, >> culture and everyday activities. >> >> We call on our participants to resist seeing the problems of the >> Internet as only technological and void of its materiality. > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Mon Jul 6 20:31:45 2015 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 06:01:45 +0530 Subject: [governance] [bestbits] Internet Ungovernance Forum Brasil In-Reply-To: References: <558C2277.70406@riseup.net> <559AC722.3040201@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <2AD5A0F7-6256-43B0-BEC2-A14C773D2C38@hserus.net> Strong +1 - do ignore the petty political sniping, it is only to be expected. > On 07-Jul-2015, at 12:01 am, George Sadowsky wrote: > > Carlos, > > Thank you for your comprehensive note and for being a voice of reason. 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As that article points out earlier Indian government efforts in this direction were kind of bipolar with some few on this list apparently favouring the proclamations made by one camp that favoured multilateral and UN centric while another camp endorsed multi stakeholder Stakeholder consultations in India are still something of a joke, regardless d the party in power, but anyway .. --srs > On 06-Jul-2015, at 7:52 pm, McTim wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:56 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian > wrote: >> Multistakeholder is not new. > > > Correct, it is the way that names, numbers and protocols have been > developed for the last 35ish years. > > > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fulvio.frati at unimi.it Tue Jul 7 10:50:50 2015 From: fulvio.frati at unimi.it (Fulvio Frati) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 16:50:50 +0200 Subject: [governance] [C&TC2015] Extended Submission Deadline (July 16th, 2015) Message-ID: <003e01d0b8c4$50f1f780$f2d5e680$@unimi.it> ***Submission deadline extended to July 16th, 2015*** [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this message] ========================================================================== CALL FOR PAPERS 5th International Symposium on Cloud Computing, Trusted Computing and Secure Virtual Infrastructures -- Cloud and Trusted Computing (C&TC 2015) October 26-28, 2015 -- Rhodes, Greece http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/cloud-trust-15 ========================================================================== =========== Description =========== Current and future software needs to remain focused towards the development and deployment of large and complex intelligent and networked information systems, required for internet-based and intranet-based systems in organizations. Today software covers a very wide range of application domains as well as technology and research issues. This has found realization through Cloud Computing. Vital element in such networked information systems are the notions of trust, security, privacy and risk management. Cloud and Trusted Computing (C&TC 2015) is the 5th International Symposium on Cloud Computing, Trusted Computing and Secure Virtual Infrastructures, organized as a component conference of the OnTheMove Federated Conferences & Workshops. C&TC 2015 will be held in Rhodes, Greece. The conference solicits submissions from both academia and industry presenting novel research in the context of Cloud Computing, presenting theoretical and practical approaches to cloud trust, security, privacy and risk management. The conference will provide a special focus on the intersection between cloud and trust bringing together experts from the two communities to discuss on the vital issues of trust, security, privacy and risk management in Cloud Computing. Potential contributions could cover new approaches, methodologies, protocols, tools, or verification and validation techniques. We also welcome review papers that analyze critically the current status of trust, security, privacy and risk management in the cloud. Papers from practitioners who encounter trust, security, privacy and risk management problems and seek understanding are also welcome. Topics of interests of C&TC 2015 include, but are not limited to: TRUST, SECURITY, PRIVACY AND RISK MANAGEMENT IN CLOUD COMPUTING - Assurance Techniques - Access Control, Authorization, and Authentication - Cloud Computing with Autonomic and Trusted Environment - Cryptographic Algorithms and Protocols - Cyber Attack, Crime and Cyber War - DRM, Watermarking Technology, IP Protection - Emergency and Security Systems - End-to-end security over complex cloud supply chain - Forensics - Human Interaction with Trusted and Autonomic Computing Systems - Identity and Trust Management - Multimedia Security Issues over Mobile and Wireless Clouds - Network Security - Networks of Trust, Clouds of Trust - Privacy, Anonymity - Privilege Management Infrastructure - Reliable Computing and Trusted Computing - Risk evaluation and Management - Security, Dependability and Autonomic Issues in Ubiquitous Computing - Security Models and Quantifications - Self-protection and Intrusion-detection in Security - Trust Evaluation and Prediction in Service-Oriented Environments - Trust, Security, Privacy and Confidentiality - Trusted Computing in virtualized environments - Trusted P2P, Web Service, SoA, SaaS, EaaS, PaaS, XaaS - Virus Detections and Anti-virus Techniques/Software CLOUD DATA MANAGEMENT - Algorithms and Computations on Encrypted Data - Big Data, Frameworks and Systems for Parallel and Distributed Computing - Database as a Service, Multi-tenancy, Data management and analytics as a service - Data Science and Scalable Machine Learning - Elasticity and Scalability for Cloud Data Management Systems - High Availability and Reliability - Interoperability between Clouds - New Protocols, Interfaces and Data Models for Cloud Databases - Resource and Workload Management in Cloud Databases - Service Level Agreements and Contracts - Transactional Models for Cloud Databases, Consistency and Replication - Virtualization and Cloud databases, Storage Structures and Indexing CLOUD COMPUTING INFRASTRUCTURES AND ARCHITECTURES - Autonomic Computing Theory, Models, Architectures and Communications - Cloud Resource provisioning with QoS Guarantees - Cloud Operation and Resource Management - Cloud Performance Modeling and Benchmarks - Datacenter Architecture and Management - Formal methods and Tools for Cloud computing - Infrastructures for Social Computing and Networking - Software Architectures and Design for Trusted Emerging Systems - Virtualized Computing Infrastructures CLOUD COMPUTING APPLICATIONS - Cloud Business Applications and Case Studies - Clouds and Social Media, Network and Link Analysis - Large Scale Cloud Applications, Reality Mining - Mobile Cloud Services - New Parallel / Concurrent Programming Models for Cloud Computing - Pervasive / Ubiquitous Computing in the Cloud - Reliability, Fault Tolerance, Quality-of-Service - Service Level Agreements and Performance Measurement - Service-Oriented Architectures, RESTful Services in Cloud Environments =============== Important Dates =============== - Paper Submission Deadline: July 16, 2015 (extended) - Acceptance Notification: August 23, 2015 - Camera Ready Due: September 1, 2015 - Author Registration Due: September 1, 2015 ================ Paper Submission ================ FULL PAPERS Full paper submissions to Cloud and Trusted Computing 2015 (C&TC 2015) must present original, highly innovative, prospective and forward-looking research in one or more of the themes given above. Full papers must break new ground, present new insight, deliver a significant research contribution and provide validated support for its results and conclusions. Successful submissions typically represent a major advance for the field of cloud computing, referencing and relating the contribution to existing research work, giving a comprehensive, detailed and understandable explanation of a system, study, theory or methodology, and support the findings with a compelling evaluation and/or validation. Each paper must be submitted as a single PDF file in Springer Lecture Notes in Computer Science format (not longer than 18 pages in length). Accepted regular papers will be included in the printed conference main proceedings and presented in the paper sessions. Submissions to C&TC 2015 must not be under review by any other conference or publication at any time during the C&TC review cycle, and must not be previously published or accepted for publication elsewhere. NOTES Notes (not longer than 6 pages in length) must report new results and provide support for the results, as a novel and valuable contribution to the field – just like full papers. Notes are intended for succinct work that is nonetheless in a mature state ready for inclusion in archival proceedings. Notes will be held to the same standard of scientific quality as full papers, albeit for a shorter presentation, and must still state how they fit with respect to related work, and provide a compelling explanation and validation. Notes must be submitted as single PDF file in Springer Lecture Notes in Computer Science format. Accepted notes will be published in the conference main proceedings and will be presented in the paper sessions of the conference. A selection of the best papers from Cloud and Trusted Computing 2015 will be published in a special issue of The International Journal of Computer Systems Science and Engineering. Submissions are to be made to the submission web site available at http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/submitpaper PAPER FORMATTING AND PRESENTING The paper and notes submission site giving all the relevant submission details is located at: http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/authors-kit/camconfpapers. Failure to comply with the formatting instructions for submitted papers or notes will lead to the outright rejection of the paper without review. Failure to commit to presentation at the conference automatically excludes a paper from the proceedings. =============== Program Chairs =============== - Claudio Agostino Ardagna, Universita' degli studi di Milano, Italy - Meiko Jensen, Independent Centre for Privacy Protection Schleswig-Holstein, Germany ================== Advisory Committee ================== - Ernesto Damiani, Universita' degli studi di Milano, Italy - Salim Hariri, The University of Arizona, USA - Robert Meersman, Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium - Siani Pearson, HP Labs, UK ================= Program Committee ================= - Marco Anisetti, Universita' degli Studi di Milano, Italy - Vijay Atluri, Rutgers University, USA - N. Balakrishnan, Indian Institute of Science, India - Endre Bangerter, Bern University of Applied Sciences, Switzerland - Michele Bezzi, SAP, France - Bud Brugger, Fraunhofer IAO, Germany - Marco Casassa Mont, HP Labs, UK - David Chadwick, University of Kent, UK - Henry Chan, The Hong Kong Polytechnic University - Alfredo Cuzzocrea, University of Calabria, Italy - Ernesto Damiani, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy - Stefan Dessloch, University of Kaiserslautern, Germany - Francesco Di Cerbo, SAP Labs, France - Scharam Dustdar, Technical University of Vienna, Austria - Stefanos Gritzalis, University of the Aegean, Greece - Nils Gruschka, FH Kiel, Germany - Marit Hansen, Unabhangiges Landeszentrum fur Datenschutz Schleswig-Holstein, Kiel, Germany - Ching Hsien Hsu, Chung Hua University, Taiwan - Patrick Hung, University of Ontario, Canada - Martin Jaatun, SINTEF ICT, Norway - Florian Kerschbaum, SAP, Germany - Ryan Ko, University of Waikato, New Zealand - Zhiqiang Lin, UT Dallas, USA - Luigi Lo Iacono, Cologne University of Applied Sciences, Germany - Gregorio Martinez, University of Murcia, Spain - Hadi Otrok, Khalifa University, Abu Dhabi, UAE - Smriti R. Ramakrishnan, Oracle Corporation, USA - Damien Sauveron, Universite' de Limoges, France - Jorg Schwenk, Ruhr-Universität Bochum, Germany - Russell Sears, Pure Storage, USA - Bhavani Thuraisingham, UT Dallas, USA - Luca Vigano', King's College London, UK =============== Publicity Chair =============== - Fulvio Frati, Universita' degli Studi di Milano, Italy More information available at http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/cloud-trust-15 **************** Per destinare il 5x1000 all'Universita' degli Studi di Milano: indicare nella dichiarazione dei redditi il codice fiscale 80012650158. http://www.unimi.it/13084.htm?utm_source=firmaMail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=linkFirmaEmail&utm_campaign=5xmille -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From pranesh at cis-india.org Tue Jul 7 11:28:43 2015 From: pranesh at cis-india.org (Pranesh Prakash) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 20:58:43 +0530 Subject: [governance] [JNC - Forum] The decentralization of the DNS system In-Reply-To: <558B8B3D.3000808@riseup.net> References: <55848964.10504@riseup.net> <7EC1DED3-031D-420D-927A-68483A1C3E9A@theglobaljournal.net> <558B8B3D.3000808@riseup.net> Message-ID: <559BF02B.1070206@cis-india.org> Dear all, I'm sorry, but I'm not clear what is being sought to be done here. 1. The reasons ICANN is currently is a 'monopole': A. In desirability terms: Most people want a system whereby two users don't reach two different addresses (or more accurately: two different address owners) when they type "example.org". B. In practical terms: ISPs default to recognizing ICANN-recognized root servers. I recall one in India (was it Tiger?) in the early 2000s that offered an alternative root (an ICANN+ root, like OpenNIC IIRC), but that experiment didn't last very long. 2. What Willi is proposing in the form of "community-owned spaces" is currently possible through an intranet, and require no new system. An city-wide intranet can have the TLD ".bengaluru", for instance. As long as the 1) DNS resolvers include a root zone entry for .bengaluru, and an entry for example.bengaluru, and 2) the community member who wishes to access example.bengaluru is using one such DNS resolver, that domain name will resolve. 2A. For instance, you can set your DNS resolver to "193.182.144.144" (run by the OpenNIC project) to be able to gTLDs like ".parody" and ".dyn" and ".gopher". It is free. 3. Willi's description of root zone servers is wrong. 4. I'm not sure if JC's suggestion of Open Root refers to the Open Root Server Network (which is operated independent of ICANN, but mirrors ICANN) or OpenRoot.eu, in which I don't really see a difference from OpenNIC except that it sells TLDs, rather than them being given for free which is the case with OpenNIC, and does so on a first-come-first-serve basis unlike ICANN's elaborate gTLD auction process. Regards, Pranesh willi uebelherr [2015-06-25 02:01:49 -0300]: > > Dear Jean-Christophe, > > many thanks for your answer. I will answer in the 2 lists, where we find > the discussion to this theme. > > "1_ In my opinion, "decentralization" seems not to be the appropriate > word to describe what and how to change the current monopole under ICANN." > > Not the "ICANN monopolisation" is the object. The centralisation of the > DNS System and the results, the irrational structures with their > significant restrictions, is the object. > > "Information Technology is somehow always related to a Master and its > slaves, by electronic nature." > > This is not true. You never find a Master/Slave relation in the > electronic by her nature. It is always a result of the design > principles. The Master/Slave relation you find in the head of the > people, the leaders and/or performers. > > "2_ ... Localisation might be interesting if a community decides to set > up its own network (see the Spanish experiment on this) but that does > not address the DNS issue." > > If you mean guifi.net, then your argumentation is not correct. They use > also a DNS system. But her own. And also they have the gateways to the > outside networks. > > You create for the community oriented space a difference to the other, > more external, activities. But this is a construction in your head and > have nothing to do with the reality. In all local and autonomous > networks the people want to connect worldwide. It is not a specific > characteristic of a non-community orientation. > > Some basic views. > > The Clients (the initiators of transactions) need the DNS system to get > the IP address, if they do not have it, to connect to the Server. But > this is not a static mapping. Every Host can be Client and Server. The > practical restriction is the asymetry in the transport capacity for the > two directions. > > The Servers mostly want to be accessible. Therefore, the organizers of > the Servers create an entry in the DNS list for the Clients. And because > the Clients do not know, where the Server is, they ask the DNS system. > But not anywhere. They use mostly the next entry to the DNS system. > > We discuss here not the nature of the IP address, not the transport > mechanism and not the routing in the branch points. Only the design > principles for our transformation system between Number and Text of our > IP address. > > The existing system is trivial. We have one list and 13 mirrored Root > Server. 12 in USA, 1 in Europe. Since some years, ICANN started to order > Verisign to create more mirror servers in the different regions on our > planet. For the shortest access they use the Anycast addressing scheme. > But this system remains centrally organized. It is only an internal > mirroring. > > The object is the list and not the mirroring system. And it is clear, > that with gTLDs (generic TLD) you never can decentralize the system. You > lost the base for decentralizing. The gTLDs are always global. Then you > can propagate another organisation. And then you have the same shit with > another name. > > Tarakiyee wrote on the JNC-Forum-list: > "A truly decentralized system would allow individuals to register their > domains without going through intermediaries. This by all means is not > a trivial or simple proposal, especially if to be implemented > globally, but it is possible. ..." > In the first part the capability for individual create, edit and > dissolve the entry in the list. Yes, absolutely. In the second part i do > not understand, what he mean. If you want this to organize for gTLDs, > then of course, you get big problems to do it. > > I do not know, how today the interaction for the ccTLD Server structure > and her subservers are organized. It is not necessary to know the > internal structure. The people in this region (country) have to organize > this. > > But it is clear, then we have as a minimum 192(193) lists. And if the > people in his region organized her DNS systems strong decentralised, > then they have internal more then one list. > > For the people outside of any country region it is not a problem. And > the people inside know the structure, because they organized it. > > To the restriction. > > Clear, it is dependent of our perspectives and vision. Therefore, i can > only speak based on that. Every community, small or big, create her > autonomous network with at least one Server. But also every school, > department of university, any part of a city, every activity group of > people create her own Server. And, based of the will of the people, > every host in a private home with a statical connection to the internet > can act permanently as a server. And client, of course. > > This means, without decentralisation we never can organize a fluent > system. You can count on our planet the community and their parts, the > schools, the universities and their parts, all groups of people with a > static activity center, all the home hosts. Then you understand the > restrictions. > > And with gTLDs? If you want to use this nonsens, create a competition > arena, where nobody know for what, organize any fighting for the ".ngo" > gTLD or any other. What is that? I know, this is not an intelligent way. > > You do not trust the government in Switzerland? Ok. Then you have to > organize the open discussion in Switzerland for a free and gratis ".ch" > domain in your region. Self organizable for all server administrators in > Switzerland. Public, state and private. The people there are not more > stupid like we. They understand it very fast. > > Why you focus your eyes to the global level? You do not like the people > in Switzerland, in your region, in your village? Of course, we need this > discussion spaces in the global space. We have many people worldwide > with fantastic ideas and experience. But practical doing? We do it locally. > > Summary. > > That we can get the IP address from any server on our planet, we need > 192(193) IP-addresses for the ccTLD Root servers. Not much, or? From > there, it is a internal task. > > But also, it is not necessary for us as clients to know this IP > addresses. We call our local DNS server. This is the entry for us to our > decentralized gloabal DNS system. > > many greetings for you and all, willi > Porto Alegre, Brasil > > > Am 20/06/2015 um 02:02 schrieb Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global > Journal: >> Willi, >> >> Thanks for sharing your thoughts. If I may put two comments on this. >> >> 1_ >> In my opinion, "decentralization" seems not to be the appropriate word >> to describe what and how to change the current monopole under ICANN. >> Information Technology is somehow always related to a Master and its >> slaves, by electronic nature. >> >> 2_ >> Localisation is often associated with the idea of "nation". Keep in >> mind that this could mean to imprison people into old boundaries. >> Localisation might be interesting if a community decides to set up its >> own network (see the Spanish experiment on this) but that does not >> address the DNS issue. >> >> In other words, decentralization has been a buzz word propagated by >> the current owners/rulers of the DNS root zoot management. And >> basically it is part of the dominant narrative related to the >> so-called, open, free, decentralized Internet under US/allies ruling >> boot. Localisation might equate to a returning in the past, pushing us >> back within the boundaries of the old national thinking. Not sure if >> we really want this. >> >> What is more needed is either a global common governance (option one), >> with a public interest perspective, or a competitive market. Were we >> not satisfied with the ICANN, we should turn to another root-zone >> manager. This is no dream or utopia. I am no longer sending my domain >> name request to an ICANN affiliate server, but instead using the >> Open-Root system to find whatever I am looking for on the web. Thanks >> to Open-Root, we are also providing for free one domain name with a >> gTLD managed by Open-Root to NGOs. When the new gTLD .ngo by PIR >> (Public INterest Registry) given by ICANN to ISOC (PIR is ISOC's TLD >> roommate and milk cow) is an additional business supposed to make more >> money, we are happy to provide access to IPs through an independent, >> cheap (for free, or paid for life) domain name. All our computers are >> using Open-Root DNS management to access website that ICANN et al >> cannot see if we do not want the US surveillance apparatus to see it. >> >> The first option (Global Common Governance) is almost dead, thanks to >> the systematic blockade by the US (gov and businesses) and its usual >> allies. Moreover, this first option would require both an >> architectural re-thinking (see JFC's email) and a political and >> institutional framing (see JNC for its democratic approach of the >> Internet governance). A long way to go. You show note that the request >> for a roadmap to a new Internet Governance, as put before the Net >> Mundial Conference has gone no where expect into giving to ICANN more >> power over the IANA functions (shifting power from the US to the US). >> >> The second option is fair competition (which I like as it means ending >> the de facto ICANN monopole) and we are free to practice competition >> it at any time starting today. >> >> A third option is an old fashion scheme that would fragment the >> Internet into national sub-Internets, (Westphalian Internets). This is >> not just old-fashion. This would be a way to imprison people back into >> their country land under the control of their leaders (good luck with >> that), unless the current efforts by a few academics come to >> conclusion in order to interconnect different root-zone management >> systems. There are a few bright minds working on this >> interconnectivity, whether the roots would be national or global. >> >> For anyone interested to use the OPEN ROOT to browse the web, and >> break free from the ICANN affiliates, feel free to write to me for >> guidance and information. >> >> JC > > _______________________________________________ > Forum mailing list > Forum at justnetcoalition.org > http://mail.justnetcoalition.org/listinfo/forum -- Pranesh Prakash Policy Director, Centre for Internet and Society http://cis-india.org | tel:+91 80 40926283 sip:pranesh at ostel.co | xmpp:pranesh at cis-india.org twitter:https://twitter.com/pranesh_prakash -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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However I also think that before jumping on the defensive too much, we should acknowledge that its criticisms do represent a widely held view within civil society, amongst those who find IGF meetings to be irrelevant junkets at best, and at worst a captured and reactionary platform for opposing real change. Regardless of how open the IGF may be to hosting workshops with diverse views, for many activists its resistance to developing the capacity to propose policy solutions (as merely the first step towards change) renders all that for naught. You can agree with it or not, but that such a view is held is not even debatable - I hear it all the time, and it's what prevents the IGF community from growing much beyond the insiders who inhabit it at present. And that's a real problem for the IGF that only it can solve - and that its MAG should bear closely in mind when considering the current proposals for incremental change such as the validation of outputs from dynamic coalitions, and the planned deliberative poll. On 6/07/2015 11:58 pm, Susan Chalmers wrote: > +1, Carlos y George. > > Willi - I reckon the Unconference will be lovely and I plan to attend, > at least in part, given commitments. > > As a MAG member who has given a lot of her free time to coordinating > (for the first time) the drafting of guidelines for workshop > proposals, and with the help of the community translating said > guidelines into multiple languages > > (which I suspect led to the marked increase of proposals from > first-timers and developing countries), I would say that the > characterisation of the IGF in your email is not entirely on point. > > With that said, if the Ungovernance forum would like to distinguish > itself from the IGF, then I'd suggest emphasizing the "bar camp style > " of organization > of the program (i.e. made on the day with those participants involved, > all-inclusive) as opposed to making broad and sweeping statements > about the integrity of the IGF. > > Let's be positive and collaborative here, not combative. :) > > Sincerely, > Susan > > > > > Susan Chalmers > susan at chalmers.associates > > *CHALMERS* & ASSOCIATES > http://chalmers.associates > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 2:31 PM, George Sadowsky > > wrote: > > Carlos, > > Thank you for your comprehensive note and for being a voice of > reason. IGF truly _is_ what different stakeholders make of it. > > George > > > > On Jul 6, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Carlos A. Afonso > wrote: > > > Dear people, > > > > I write this, as usual, in my personal capacity, now with the > help of a > > few other colleagues. > > > > Personally I have nothing against "unconferences" or parallel > meetings. > > Every group has the right to organize events on their own taking > > advantage of the occasion. > > > > However, the justifications for the "unconference" at the 10th > IGF, as > > presented in the announcement message below, start from false > premises. > > IGF is a UN event with special characteristics -- it is a pluralist > > space (unlike, for example, the recently proposed Internet > Social Forum, > > which requires previous adherence to a letter of commitments, in > > practice excluding many groups and individuals from the dialogue). > > > > IGF is what the different stakeholders make of it, and organized > civil > > society has always had space to propose and participate since > the very > > first IGF in 2006. I recommend that the promoters of parallel events > > overview the more than 100 workshops approved for the upcoming > IGF to > > conclude that the event is far from being "controlled by > business and > > governments". The workshops' list (and descriptions) is here: > > > > > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/workshop-proposals/list-of-published-workshop-proposals > > > > Here are some examples of workshops, among many others, which > deal with > > issues of obvious interest to civil society, with multistakeholder > > participation (as required by IGF): > > > > No. 10 FOSS & a Free, Open Internet: Synergies for Development > > No. 31 The “Right to be Forgotten” Rulings and their Implications > > No. 49 No Grey Areas – Against Sexual Exploitation of Children > > No. 60 Benchmarking ICT companies on digital rights > > No. 68 Can civil society impact Global Internet Governance? > > No. 96 #AfricanInternetRights: whose rights are these anyway? > > No. 134 Organising an Internet Social Forum - Occupy the Internet > > No. 152 Political dissent & online anonymity in developing countries > > No. 186 A multistakeholder and humanrights approach to cybersecurity > > No. 188 Spectrum allocations: challenges & opportunities at the edge > > No. 214 Internet interconnection under regulatory pressure > > No. 224 Civil Society and Information Controls in the Global South > > No. 226 Internet governance and Open Government Data initiatives > > No. 239 Bitcoin, Blockchain and Beyond: FLASH HELP! > > No. 242 The Manila Principles on Intermediary Liability > > > > Workshops might be flash sessions, panels or roundtables, > lasting from > > 30 to 90 minutes. There are also the "dynamic coalitions", organized > > groups of people and entities working together on several > crucial themes > > independently of the IGF (but stimulated by it and which hold > meetings > > during the event): > > > > Dynamic Coalition on Accessibility and Disability > > Dynamic Coalition on Child Online Safety > > Dynamic Coalition on Core Internet Values > > Dynamic Coalition on Freedom of Expression and Freedom of the > Media on > > the Internet > > Dynamic Coalition on Gender and Internet Governance > > Dynamic Coalition on Internet and Climate Change > > Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles > > Dynamic Coalition on Network Neutrality > > Dynamic Coalition on Platform Responsibility (DC PR) > > Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries > > Dynamic Coalition on the Internet of Things > > Youth Coalition on Internet Governance > > > > It is relevant to notice that most of the more than 100 workshops > > accepted this year were proposed by civil society organizations. > > Proposals by governments and intergovernmental organizations > were just a > > few. Information on the proposing organizations is on the IGF > Web site. > > Also, nearly half of the approved workshops were proposed by > > organizations from developing countries. > > > > The Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG/IGF) recommends that in > every > > workshop and main sessions there should be balanced participation of > > panelists, discussants and other invitees taking into account the > > diversity of nations, continents, sectors (government, business, > civil > > society, technical/academic community), and gender. This > diversity has > > been a relevant factor in approving the workshops, and the IGF > > secretariat will work together with workshops' organizers to > make sure > > this directive is taken into account. > > > > I notice also that the promoters of the unconference call "on our > > participants to resist seeing the problems of the Internet as only > > technological and void of its materiality." It is quite possible > that > > other forums or entities, according to their scopes and goals, > treat the > > Internet from a purely technical point of view. This is > certainly not > > the case of the IGF, created precisely as a dialogue for > non-technical > > questions which do not find space in other forums. A rapid > reading of > > the workshops' descriptions listed above illustrates this fact quite > > well. There are just a few approved workshops which limit > themselves to > > technical issues. Nearly all try to consider social, cultural, > economic > > and political aspects related to the development and use of the > > Internet, always with a multistakeholder approach. > > > > I strongly recommend that you all participate in the IGF, either > > remotely or in person, without excluding participation in other > parallel > > events as you wish, of course. > > > > fraternal regards > > > > --c.a. > > > > On 06/25/2015 12:47 PM, willi uebelherr wrote: > >> > >> Dear friends, > >> > >> 2014 we had the Internet Ungovernance Forum in Istanbul in > Turkey. Now, > >> this year, this people organize it in Brasil. > >> > >> I think, this is the most important event in this year to the > theme: > >> Internet Governance. > >> > >> many greetings, willi > >> Porto Alegre, Brasil > >> > >> > >> Internet Ungovernance Forum Brasil > >> November 2015 > >> João Pessoa - Paraíba, Brasil > >> http://iuf.partidopirata.org/index-en.html > >> > >> Internet Ungovernance Forum Brasil is for those of us who > demand free, > >> secure, and open internet for all! > >> > >> We're organizing the Internet Ungovernance Forum on November > 2015, for > >> everyone who demand that fundamental freedoms, openness, unity > and net > >> neutrality remain the building blocks of the Internet. Our > objective is > >> to talk about the true and real problems of the internet, how > can we > >> solve them and to chart a path for action. > >> > >> Our forum will be in parallel to the Internet Governance Forum > (IGF) > >> 2015 which will also be held in João Pessoa in november. Interested > >> parties all around the world will join and follow this > important event. > >> However, we see that at IGF the most urgent problems of the > Internet do > >> not get proper attention. Due to its format, the main > perpetrators of > >> many of the Internet's problems, for example the governments and > >> corporations, are getting representation in IGF that they don’t > deserve. > >> Given these circumstances, we decided to take initiative to > defend the > >> Internet as we know it and to create a parallel space to raise the > >> voices of civil society initiatives, activists and common people. > >> > >> For us, the most vital problems today are censorship and freedom of > >> speech; surveillance and privacy; excessive commercialization and > >> super-monopolies; protective, prohibitionist and conservative > governance > >> approaches; awful governance examples as in the case of Brasil > and the > >> list goes on. Further, we do not see any of these problems > independent > >> of the greater political, social and economic contexts in which the > >> Internet and related digital infrastructures are embedded in. > >> > >> We want to reclaim the Internet as a fundamental infrastructure > of our > >> societies, cities, education, health, work, media, communications, > >> culture and everyday activities. > >> > >> We call on our participants to resist seeing the problems of the > >> Internet as only technological and void of its materiality. > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net > . > > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -- Jeremy Malcolm Senior Global Policy Analyst Electronic Frontier Foundation https://eff.org jmalcolm at eff.org Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World :: Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2014/10/09/key_jmalcolm.txt PGP fingerprint: FF13 C2E9 F9C3 DF54 7C4F EAC1 F675 AAE2 D2AB 2220 OTR fingerprint: 26EE FD85 3740 8228 9460 49A8 536F BCD2 536F A5BD Learn how to encrypt your email with the Email Self Defense guide: https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think the IGF’s well proven to be a way to make sure people can vent (and share) views but without any danger of effecting actual change. David Gross of the US and others set it up that way and so it has delivered. William New, Intellectual Property Watch, Geneva From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Malcolm Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 11:52 PM To: Susan Chalmers; George Sadowsky Cc: Carlos A. Afonso; Civil IGC Society Internet Governance Caucus -; 1net.org discuss; 0net.org discuss; APC forum; JNC forum Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Internet Ungovernance Forum Brasil I am not involved with the Ungovernance Forum and agree with Carlos, George and Susan that it overstates its case a little. However I also think that before jumping on the defensive too much, we should acknowledge that its criticisms do represent a widely held view within civil society, amongst those who find IGF meetings to be irrelevant junkets at best, and at worst a captured and reactionary platform for opposing real change. Regardless of how open the IGF may be to hosting workshops with diverse views, for many activists its resistance to developing the capacity to propose policy solutions (as merely the first step towards change) renders all that for naught. You can agree with it or not, but that such a view is held is not even debatable - I hear it all the time, and it's what prevents the IGF community from growing much beyond the insiders who inhabit it at present. And that's a real problem for the IGF that only it can solve - and that its MAG should bear closely in mind when considering the current proposals for incremental change such as the validation of outputs from dynamic coalitions, and the planned deliberative poll. On 6/07/2015 11:58 pm, Susan Chalmers wrote: +1, Carlos y George. Willi - I reckon the Unconference will be lovely and I plan to attend, at least in part, given commitments. As a MAG member who has given a lot of her free time to coordinating (for the first time) the drafting of guidelines for workshop proposals, and with the help of the community translating said guidelines into multiple languages (which I suspect led to the marked increase of proposals from first-timers and developing countries), I would say that the characterisation of the IGF in your email is not entirely on point. With that said, if the Ungovernance forum would like to distinguish itself from the IGF, then I'd suggest emphasizing the "bar camp style " of organization of the program (i.e. made on the day with those participants involved, all-inclusive) as opposed to making broad and sweeping statements about the integrity of the IGF. Let's be positive and collaborative here, not combative. :) Sincerely, Susan Susan Chalmers susan at chalmers.associates CHALMERS & ASSOCIATES http://chalmers.associates On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 2:31 PM, George Sadowsky > wrote: Carlos, Thank you for your comprehensive note and for being a voice of reason. IGF truly _is_ what different stakeholders make of it. George On Jul 6, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Carlos A. Afonso > wrote: > Dear people, > > I write this, as usual, in my personal capacity, now with the help of a > few other colleagues. > > Personally I have nothing against "unconferences" or parallel meetings. > Every group has the right to organize events on their own taking > advantage of the occasion. > > However, the justifications for the "unconference" at the 10th IGF, as > presented in the announcement message below, start from false premises. > IGF is a UN event with special characteristics -- it is a pluralist > space (unlike, for example, the recently proposed Internet Social Forum, > which requires previous adherence to a letter of commitments, in > practice excluding many groups and individuals from the dialogue). > > IGF is what the different stakeholders make of it, and organized civil > society has always had space to propose and participate since the very > first IGF in 2006. I recommend that the promoters of parallel events > overview the more than 100 workshops approved for the upcoming IGF to > conclude that the event is far from being "controlled by business and > governments". The workshops' list (and descriptions) is here: > > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/workshop-proposals/list-of-published-workshop-proposals > > Here are some examples of workshops, among many others, which deal with > issues of obvious interest to civil society, with multistakeholder > participation (as required by IGF): > > No. 10 FOSS & a Free, Open Internet: Synergies for Development > No. 31 The “Right to be Forgotten” Rulings and their Implications > No. 49 No Grey Areas – Against Sexual Exploitation of Children > No. 60 Benchmarking ICT companies on digital rights > No. 68 Can civil society impact Global Internet Governance? > No. 96 #AfricanInternetRights: whose rights are these anyway? > No. 134 Organising an Internet Social Forum - Occupy the Internet > No. 152 Political dissent & online anonymity in developing countries > No. 186 A multistakeholder and humanrights approach to cybersecurity > No. 188 Spectrum allocations: challenges & opportunities at the edge > No. 214 Internet interconnection under regulatory pressure > No. 224 Civil Society and Information Controls in the Global South > No. 226 Internet governance and Open Government Data initiatives > No. 239 Bitcoin, Blockchain and Beyond: FLASH HELP! > No. 242 The Manila Principles on Intermediary Liability > > Workshops might be flash sessions, panels or roundtables, lasting from > 30 to 90 minutes. There are also the "dynamic coalitions", organized > groups of people and entities working together on several crucial themes > independently of the IGF (but stimulated by it and which hold meetings > during the event): > > Dynamic Coalition on Accessibility and Disability > Dynamic Coalition on Child Online Safety > Dynamic Coalition on Core Internet Values > Dynamic Coalition on Freedom of Expression and Freedom of the Media on > the Internet > Dynamic Coalition on Gender and Internet Governance > Dynamic Coalition on Internet and Climate Change > Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles > Dynamic Coalition on Network Neutrality > Dynamic Coalition on Platform Responsibility (DC PR) > Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries > Dynamic Coalition on the Internet of Things > Youth Coalition on Internet Governance > > It is relevant to notice that most of the more than 100 workshops > accepted this year were proposed by civil society organizations. > Proposals by governments and intergovernmental organizations were just a > few. Information on the proposing organizations is on the IGF Web site. > Also, nearly half of the approved workshops were proposed by > organizations from developing countries. > > The Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG/IGF) recommends that in every > workshop and main sessions there should be balanced participation of > panelists, discussants and other invitees taking into account the > diversity of nations, continents, sectors (government, business, civil > society, technical/academic community), and gender. This diversity has > been a relevant factor in approving the workshops, and the IGF > secretariat will work together with workshops' organizers to make sure > this directive is taken into account. > > I notice also that the promoters of the unconference call "on our > participants to resist seeing the problems of the Internet as only > technological and void of its materiality." It is quite possible that > other forums or entities, according to their scopes and goals, treat the > Internet from a purely technical point of view. This is certainly not > the case of the IGF, created precisely as a dialogue for non-technical > questions which do not find space in other forums. A rapid reading of > the workshops' descriptions listed above illustrates this fact quite > well. There are just a few approved workshops which limit themselves to > technical issues. Nearly all try to consider social, cultural, economic > and political aspects related to the development and use of the > Internet, always with a multistakeholder approach. > > I strongly recommend that you all participate in the IGF, either > remotely or in person, without excluding participation in other parallel > events as you wish, of course. > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > > On 06/25/2015 12:47 PM, willi uebelherr wrote: >> >> Dear friends, >> >> 2014 we had the Internet Ungovernance Forum in Istanbul in Turkey. Now, >> this year, this people organize it in Brasil. >> >> I think, this is the most important event in this year to the theme: >> Internet Governance. >> >> many greetings, willi >> Porto Alegre, Brasil >> >> >> Internet Ungovernance Forum Brasil >> November 2015 >> João Pessoa - Paraíba, Brasil >> http://iuf.partidopirata.org/index-en.html >> >> Internet Ungovernance Forum Brasil is for those of us who demand free, >> secure, and open internet for all! >> >> We're organizing the Internet Ungovernance Forum on November 2015, for >> everyone who demand that fundamental freedoms, openness, unity and net >> neutrality remain the building blocks of the Internet. Our objective is >> to talk about the true and real problems of the internet, how can we >> solve them and to chart a path for action. >> >> Our forum will be in parallel to the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) >> 2015 which will also be held in João Pessoa in november. Interested >> parties all around the world will join and follow this important event. >> However, we see that at IGF the most urgent problems of the Internet do >> not get proper attention. Due to its format, the main perpetrators of >> many of the Internet's problems, for example the governments and >> corporations, are getting representation in IGF that they don’t deserve. >> Given these circumstances, we decided to take initiative to defend the >> Internet as we know it and to create a parallel space to raise the >> voices of civil society initiatives, activists and common people. >> >> For us, the most vital problems today are censorship and freedom of >> speech; surveillance and privacy; excessive commercialization and >> super-monopolies; protective, prohibitionist and conservative governance >> approaches; awful governance examples as in the case of Brasil and the >> list goes on. Further, we do not see any of these problems independent >> of the greater political, social and economic contexts in which the >> Internet and related digital infrastructures are embedded in. >> >> We want to reclaim the Internet as a fundamental infrastructure of our >> societies, cities, education, health, work, media, communications, >> culture and everyday activities. >> >> We call on our participants to resist seeing the problems of the >> Internet as only technological and void of its materiality. > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . 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Also otherwise our local advances, in the same area, including our amazing hackers from the Bus and from the Ship. The Bus cross Brazil to develop activities on digital inclusion and open data, the Ship do the same along the Amazon river, visiting cities and towns of Amazon forest. Regards, Joao Caribe Em 06/07/2015, às 15:21, Carlos A. Afonso escreveu: > Dear people, > > I write this, as usual, in my personal capacity, now with the help of a > few other colleagues. > > Personally I have nothing against "unconferences" or parallel meetings. > Every group has the right to organize events on their own taking > advantage of the occasion. > > However, the justifications for the "unconference" at the 10th IGF, as > presented in the announcement message below, start from false premises. > IGF is a UN event with special characteristics -- it is a pluralist > space (unlike, for example, the recently proposed Internet Social Forum, > which requires previous adherence to a letter of commitments, in > practice excluding many groups and individuals from the dialogue). > > IGF is what the different stakeholders make of it, and organized civil > society has always had space to propose and participate since the very > first IGF in 2006. I recommend that the promoters of parallel events > overview the more than 100 workshops approved for the upcoming IGF to > conclude that the event is far from being "controlled by business and > governments". The workshops' list (and descriptions) is here: > > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/workshop-proposals/list-of-published-workshop-proposals > > Here are some examples of workshops, among many others, which deal with > issues of obvious interest to civil society, with multistakeholder > participation (as required by IGF): > > No. 10 FOSS & a Free, Open Internet: Synergies for Development > No. 31 The “Right to be Forgotten” Rulings and their Implications > No. 49 No Grey Areas – Against Sexual Exploitation of Children > No. 60 Benchmarking ICT companies on digital rights > No. 68 Can civil society impact Global Internet Governance? > No. 96 #AfricanInternetRights: whose rights are these anyway? > No. 134 Organising an Internet Social Forum - Occupy the Internet > No. 152 Political dissent & online anonymity in developing countries > No. 186 A multistakeholder and humanrights approach to cybersecurity > No. 188 Spectrum allocations: challenges & opportunities at the edge > No. 214 Internet interconnection under regulatory pressure > No. 224 Civil Society and Information Controls in the Global South > No. 226 Internet governance and Open Government Data initiatives > No. 239 Bitcoin, Blockchain and Beyond: FLASH HELP! > No. 242 The Manila Principles on Intermediary Liability > > Workshops might be flash sessions, panels or roundtables, lasting from > 30 to 90 minutes. There are also the "dynamic coalitions", organized > groups of people and entities working together on several crucial themes > independently of the IGF (but stimulated by it and which hold meetings > during the event): > > Dynamic Coalition on Accessibility and Disability > Dynamic Coalition on Child Online Safety > Dynamic Coalition on Core Internet Values > Dynamic Coalition on Freedom of Expression and Freedom of the Media on > the Internet > Dynamic Coalition on Gender and Internet Governance > Dynamic Coalition on Internet and Climate Change > Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles > Dynamic Coalition on Network Neutrality > Dynamic Coalition on Platform Responsibility (DC PR) > Dynamic Coalition on Public Access in Libraries > Dynamic Coalition on the Internet of Things > Youth Coalition on Internet Governance > > It is relevant to notice that most of the more than 100 workshops > accepted this year were proposed by civil society organizations. > Proposals by governments and intergovernmental organizations were just a > few. Information on the proposing organizations is on the IGF Web site. > Also, nearly half of the approved workshops were proposed by > organizations from developing countries. > > The Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG/IGF) recommends that in every > workshop and main sessions there should be balanced participation of > panelists, discussants and other invitees taking into account the > diversity of nations, continents, sectors (government, business, civil > society, technical/academic community), and gender. This diversity has > been a relevant factor in approving the workshops, and the IGF > secretariat will work together with workshops' organizers to make sure > this directive is taken into account. > > I notice also that the promoters of the unconference call "on our > participants to resist seeing the problems of the Internet as only > technological and void of its materiality." It is quite possible that > other forums or entities, according to their scopes and goals, treat the > Internet from a purely technical point of view. This is certainly not > the case of the IGF, created precisely as a dialogue for non-technical > questions which do not find space in other forums. A rapid reading of > the workshops' descriptions listed above illustrates this fact quite > well. There are just a few approved workshops which limit themselves to > technical issues. Nearly all try to consider social, cultural, economic > and political aspects related to the development and use of the > Internet, always with a multistakeholder approach. > > I strongly recommend that you all participate in the IGF, either > remotely or in person, without excluding participation in other parallel > events as you wish, of course. > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > > On 06/25/2015 12:47 PM, willi uebelherr wrote: >> >> Dear friends, >> >> 2014 we had the Internet Ungovernance Forum in Istanbul in Turkey. Now, >> this year, this people organize it in Brasil. >> >> I think, this is the most important event in this year to the theme: >> Internet Governance. >> >> many greetings, willi >> Porto Alegre, Brasil >> >> >> Internet Ungovernance Forum Brasil >> November 2015 >> João Pessoa - Paraíba, Brasil >> http://iuf.partidopirata.org/index-en.html >> >> Internet Ungovernance Forum Brasil is for those of us who demand free, >> secure, and open internet for all! >> >> We're organizing the Internet Ungovernance Forum on November 2015, for >> everyone who demand that fundamental freedoms, openness, unity and net >> neutrality remain the building blocks of the Internet. Our objective is >> to talk about the true and real problems of the internet, how can we >> solve them and to chart a path for action. >> >> Our forum will be in parallel to the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) >> 2015 which will also be held in João Pessoa in november. Interested >> parties all around the world will join and follow this important event. >> However, we see that at IGF the most urgent problems of the Internet do >> not get proper attention. Due to its format, the main perpetrators of >> many of the Internet's problems, for example the governments and >> corporations, are getting representation in IGF that they don’t deserve. >> Given these circumstances, we decided to take initiative to defend the >> Internet as we know it and to create a parallel space to raise the >> voices of civil society initiatives, activists and common people. >> >> For us, the most vital problems today are censorship and freedom of >> speech; surveillance and privacy; excessive commercialization and >> super-monopolies; protective, prohibitionist and conservative governance >> approaches; awful governance examples as in the case of Brasil and the >> list goes on. Further, we do not see any of these problems independent >> of the greater political, social and economic contexts in which the >> Internet and related digital infrastructures are embedded in. >> >> We want to reclaim the Internet as a fundamental infrastructure of our >> societies, cities, education, health, work, media, communications, >> culture and everyday activities. >> >> We call on our participants to resist seeing the problems of the >> Internet as only technological and void of its materiality. > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- João Carlos R. Caribé Consultor Skype joaocaribe (021) 4042 7727 (021) 9 8761 1967 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nashton at consensus.pro Wed Jul 8 01:36:20 2015 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 07:36:20 +0200 Subject: [governance] [C&TC2015] Extended Submission Deadline (July 16th, 2015) In-Reply-To: <003e01d0b8c4$50f1f780$f2d5e680$@unimi.it> References: <003e01d0b8c4$50f1f780$f2d5e680$@unimi.it> Message-ID: <9A5DE1CF-378B-46D2-B7AF-49C8486D7E7C@consensus.pro> Far too many copies of this on far too many lists and also much too frequently. On 7 Jul 2015, at 16:50, Fulvio Frati wrote: > ***Submission deadline extended to July 16th, 2015*** > > [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this message] > > ========================================================================== > CALL FOR PAPERS > 5th International Symposium on Cloud Computing, Trusted Computing and > Secure Virtual Infrastructures -- Cloud and Trusted Computing (C&TC 2015) > October 26-28, 2015 -- Rhodes, Greece > http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/cloud-trust-15 > ========================================================================== > > =========== > Description > =========== > > Current and future software needs to remain focused towards the development > and deployment of large and complex intelligent and networked information > systems, required for internet-based and intranet-based systems in > organizations. Today software covers a very wide range of application > domains as well as technology and research issues. This has found > realization through Cloud Computing. Vital element in such networked > information systems are the notions of trust, security, privacy and risk > management. > > Cloud and Trusted Computing (C&TC 2015) is the 5th International Symposium > on Cloud Computing, Trusted Computing and Secure Virtual Infrastructures, > organized as a component conference of the OnTheMove Federated Conferences & > Workshops. C&TC 2015 will be held in Rhodes, Greece. > > The conference solicits submissions from both academia and industry > presenting novel research in the context of Cloud Computing, presenting > theoretical and practical approaches to cloud trust, security, privacy and > risk management. The conference will provide a special focus on the > intersection between cloud and trust bringing together experts from the two > communities to discuss on the vital issues of trust, security, privacy and > risk management in Cloud Computing. Potential contributions could cover new > approaches, methodologies, protocols, tools, or verification and validation > techniques. We also welcome review papers that analyze critically the > current status of trust, security, privacy and risk management in the cloud. > Papers from practitioners who encounter trust, security, privacy and risk > management problems and seek understanding are also welcome. > > Topics of interests of C&TC 2015 include, but are not limited to: > > TRUST, SECURITY, PRIVACY AND RISK MANAGEMENT IN CLOUD COMPUTING > - Assurance Techniques > - Access Control, Authorization, and Authentication > - Cloud Computing with Autonomic and Trusted Environment > - Cryptographic Algorithms and Protocols > - Cyber Attack, Crime and Cyber War > - DRM, Watermarking Technology, IP Protection > - Emergency and Security Systems > - End-to-end security over complex cloud supply chain > - Forensics > - Human Interaction with Trusted and Autonomic Computing Systems > - Identity and Trust Management > - Multimedia Security Issues over Mobile and Wireless Clouds > - Network Security > - Networks of Trust, Clouds of Trust > - Privacy, Anonymity > - Privilege Management Infrastructure > - Reliable Computing and Trusted Computing > - Risk evaluation and Management > - Security, Dependability and Autonomic Issues in Ubiquitous Computing > - Security Models and Quantifications > - Self-protection and Intrusion-detection in Security > - Trust Evaluation and Prediction in Service-Oriented Environments > - Trust, Security, Privacy and Confidentiality > - Trusted Computing in virtualized environments > - Trusted P2P, Web Service, SoA, SaaS, EaaS, PaaS, XaaS > - Virus Detections and Anti-virus Techniques/Software > > CLOUD DATA MANAGEMENT > - Algorithms and Computations on Encrypted Data > - Big Data, Frameworks and Systems for Parallel and Distributed Computing > - Database as a Service, Multi-tenancy, Data management and analytics as a > service > - Data Science and Scalable Machine Learning > - Elasticity and Scalability for Cloud Data Management Systems > - High Availability and Reliability > - Interoperability between Clouds > - New Protocols, Interfaces and Data Models for Cloud Databases > - Resource and Workload Management in Cloud Databases > - Service Level Agreements and Contracts > - Transactional Models for Cloud Databases, Consistency and Replication > - Virtualization and Cloud databases, Storage Structures and Indexing > > CLOUD COMPUTING INFRASTRUCTURES AND ARCHITECTURES > - Autonomic Computing Theory, Models, Architectures and Communications > - Cloud Resource provisioning with QoS Guarantees > - Cloud Operation and Resource Management > - Cloud Performance Modeling and Benchmarks > - Datacenter Architecture and Management > - Formal methods and Tools for Cloud computing > - Infrastructures for Social Computing and Networking > - Software Architectures and Design for Trusted Emerging Systems > - Virtualized Computing Infrastructures > > CLOUD COMPUTING APPLICATIONS > - Cloud Business Applications and Case Studies > - Clouds and Social Media, Network and Link Analysis > - Large Scale Cloud Applications, Reality Mining > - Mobile Cloud Services > - New Parallel / Concurrent Programming Models for Cloud Computing > - Pervasive / Ubiquitous Computing in the Cloud > - Reliability, Fault Tolerance, Quality-of-Service > - Service Level Agreements and Performance Measurement > - Service-Oriented Architectures, RESTful Services in Cloud Environments > > =============== > Important Dates > =============== > > - Paper Submission Deadline: July 16, 2015 (extended) > - Acceptance Notification: August 23, 2015 > - Camera Ready Due: September 1, 2015 > - Author Registration Due: September 1, 2015 > > ================ > Paper Submission > ================ > > FULL PAPERS > Full paper submissions to Cloud and Trusted Computing 2015 (C&TC 2015) must > present original, highly innovative, prospective and forward-looking > research in one or more of the themes given above. Full papers must break > new ground, present new insight, deliver a significant research contribution > and provide validated support for its results and conclusions. Successful > submissions typically represent a major advance for the field of cloud > computing, referencing and relating the contribution to existing research > work, giving a comprehensive, detailed and understandable explanation of a > system, study, theory or methodology, and support the findings with a > compelling evaluation and/or validation. Each paper must be submitted as a > single PDF file in Springer Lecture Notes in Computer Science format (not > longer than 18 pages in length). Accepted regular papers will be included in > the printed conference main proceedings and presented in the paper sessions. > Submissions to C&TC 2015 must not be under review by any other conference or > publication at any time during the C&TC review cycle, and must not be > previously published or accepted for publication elsewhere. > > NOTES > Notes (not longer than 6 pages in length) must report new results and > provide support for the results, as a novel and valuable contribution to the > field – just like full papers. Notes are intended for succinct work that is > nonetheless in a mature state ready for inclusion in archival proceedings. > Notes will be held to the same standard of scientific quality as full > papers, albeit for a shorter presentation, and must still state how they fit > with respect to related work, and provide a compelling explanation and > validation. Notes must be submitted as single PDF file in Springer Lecture > Notes in Computer Science format. Accepted notes will be published in the > conference main proceedings and will be presented in the paper sessions of > the conference. > > A selection of the best papers from Cloud and Trusted Computing 2015 will be > published in a special issue of The International Journal of Computer > Systems Science and Engineering. > > Submissions are to be made to the submission web site available at > http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/submitpaper > > PAPER FORMATTING AND PRESENTING > The paper and notes submission site giving all the relevant submission > details is located at: > http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/authors-kit/camconfpapers. > Failure to comply with the formatting instructions for submitted papers or > notes will lead to the outright rejection of the paper without review. > Failure to commit to presentation at the conference automatically excludes a > paper from the proceedings. > > =============== > Program Chairs > =============== > > - Claudio Agostino Ardagna, Universita' degli studi di Milano, Italy > - Meiko Jensen, Independent Centre for Privacy Protection > Schleswig-Holstein, Germany > > ================== > Advisory Committee > ================== > > - Ernesto Damiani, Universita' degli studi di Milano, Italy > - Salim Hariri, The University of Arizona, USA > - Robert Meersman, Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium > - Siani Pearson, HP Labs, UK > > ================= > Program Committee > ================= > > - Marco Anisetti, Universita' degli Studi di Milano, Italy > - Vijay Atluri, Rutgers University, USA > - N. Balakrishnan, Indian Institute of Science, India > - Endre Bangerter, Bern University of Applied Sciences, Switzerland > - Michele Bezzi, SAP, France > - Bud Brugger, Fraunhofer IAO, Germany > - Marco Casassa Mont, HP Labs, UK > - David Chadwick, University of Kent, UK > - Henry Chan, The Hong Kong Polytechnic University > - Alfredo Cuzzocrea, University of Calabria, Italy > - Ernesto Damiani, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy > - Stefan Dessloch, University of Kaiserslautern, Germany > - Francesco Di Cerbo, SAP Labs, France > - Scharam Dustdar, Technical University of Vienna, Austria > - Stefanos Gritzalis, University of the Aegean, Greece > - Nils Gruschka, FH Kiel, Germany > - Marit Hansen, Unabhangiges Landeszentrum fur Datenschutz > Schleswig-Holstein, Kiel, Germany > - Ching Hsien Hsu, Chung Hua University, Taiwan > - Patrick Hung, University of Ontario, Canada > - Martin Jaatun, SINTEF ICT, Norway > - Florian Kerschbaum, SAP, Germany > - Ryan Ko, University of Waikato, New Zealand > - Zhiqiang Lin, UT Dallas, USA > - Luigi Lo Iacono, Cologne University of Applied Sciences, Germany > - Gregorio Martinez, University of Murcia, Spain > - Hadi Otrok, Khalifa University, Abu Dhabi, UAE > - Smriti R. 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List owners: can you kick out/block those posts? Marcin -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Wed Jul 8 05:13:14 2015 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 06:13:14 -0300 Subject: [governance] [C&TC2015] Extended Submission Deadline (July 16th, 2015) In-Reply-To: <9A5DE1CF-378B-46D2-B7AF-49C8486D7E7C@consensus.pro> References: <003e01d0b8c4$50f1f780$f2d5e680$@unimi.it> <9A5DE1CF-378B-46D2-B7AF-49C8486D7E7C@consensus.pro> Message-ID: <13ED763D-001D-4521-AE09-B8B863600E89@cafonso.ca> I've seen this appearing in the list so many times that I thought it was some hoax... --c.a. sent from a dumbphone > On 08/07/2015, at 02:36, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > > Far too many copies of this on far too many lists and also much too frequently. > >> On 7 Jul 2015, at 16:50, Fulvio Frati wrote: >> >> ***Submission deadline extended to July 16th, 2015*** >> >> [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this message] >> >> ========================================================================== >> CALL FOR PAPERS >> 5th International Symposium on Cloud Computing, Trusted Computing and >> Secure Virtual Infrastructures -- Cloud and Trusted Computing (C&TC 2015) >> October 26-28, 2015 -- Rhodes, Greece >> http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/cloud-trust-15 >> ========================================================================== >> >> =========== >> Description >> =========== >> >> Current and future software needs to remain focused towards the development >> and deployment of large and complex intelligent and networked information >> systems, required for internet-based and intranet-based systems in >> organizations. Today software covers a very wide range of application >> domains as well as technology and research issues. This has found >> realization through Cloud Computing. Vital element in such networked >> information systems are the notions of trust, security, privacy and risk >> management. >> >> Cloud and Trusted Computing (C&TC 2015) is the 5th International Symposium >> on Cloud Computing, Trusted Computing and Secure Virtual Infrastructures, >> organized as a component conference of the OnTheMove Federated Conferences & >> Workshops. C&TC 2015 will be held in Rhodes, Greece. >> >> The conference solicits submissions from both academia and industry >> presenting novel research in the context of Cloud Computing, presenting >> theoretical and practical approaches to cloud trust, security, privacy and >> risk management. The conference will provide a special focus on the >> intersection between cloud and trust bringing together experts from the two >> communities to discuss on the vital issues of trust, security, privacy and >> risk management in Cloud Computing. Potential contributions could cover new >> approaches, methodologies, protocols, tools, or verification and validation >> techniques. We also welcome review papers that analyze critically the >> current status of trust, security, privacy and risk management in the cloud. >> Papers from practitioners who encounter trust, security, privacy and risk >> management problems and seek understanding are also welcome. >> >> Topics of interests of C&TC 2015 include, but are not limited to: >> >> TRUST, SECURITY, PRIVACY AND RISK MANAGEMENT IN CLOUD COMPUTING >> - Assurance Techniques >> - Access Control, Authorization, and Authentication >> - Cloud Computing with Autonomic and Trusted Environment >> - Cryptographic Algorithms and Protocols >> - Cyber Attack, Crime and Cyber War >> - DRM, Watermarking Technology, IP Protection >> - Emergency and Security Systems >> - End-to-end security over complex cloud supply chain >> - Forensics >> - Human Interaction with Trusted and Autonomic Computing Systems >> - Identity and Trust Management >> - Multimedia Security Issues over Mobile and Wireless Clouds >> - Network Security >> - Networks of Trust, Clouds of Trust >> - Privacy, Anonymity >> - Privilege Management Infrastructure >> - Reliable Computing and Trusted Computing >> - Risk evaluation and Management >> - Security, Dependability and Autonomic Issues in Ubiquitous Computing >> - Security Models and Quantifications >> - Self-protection and Intrusion-detection in Security >> - Trust Evaluation and Prediction in Service-Oriented Environments >> - Trust, Security, Privacy and Confidentiality >> - Trusted Computing in virtualized environments >> - Trusted P2P, Web Service, SoA, SaaS, EaaS, PaaS, XaaS >> - Virus Detections and Anti-virus Techniques/Software >> >> CLOUD DATA MANAGEMENT >> - Algorithms and Computations on Encrypted Data >> - Big Data, Frameworks and Systems for Parallel and Distributed Computing >> - Database as a Service, Multi-tenancy, Data management and analytics as a >> service >> - Data Science and Scalable Machine Learning >> - Elasticity and Scalability for Cloud Data Management Systems >> - High Availability and Reliability >> - Interoperability between Clouds >> - New Protocols, Interfaces and Data Models for Cloud Databases >> - Resource and Workload Management in Cloud Databases >> - Service Level Agreements and Contracts >> - Transactional Models for Cloud Databases, Consistency and Replication >> - Virtualization and Cloud databases, Storage Structures and Indexing >> >> CLOUD COMPUTING INFRASTRUCTURES AND ARCHITECTURES >> - Autonomic Computing Theory, Models, Architectures and Communications >> - Cloud Resource provisioning with QoS Guarantees >> - Cloud Operation and Resource Management >> - Cloud Performance Modeling and Benchmarks >> - Datacenter Architecture and Management >> - Formal methods and Tools for Cloud computing >> - Infrastructures for Social Computing and Networking >> - Software Architectures and Design for Trusted Emerging Systems >> - Virtualized Computing Infrastructures >> >> CLOUD COMPUTING APPLICATIONS >> - Cloud Business Applications and Case Studies >> - Clouds and Social Media, Network and Link Analysis >> - Large Scale Cloud Applications, Reality Mining >> - Mobile Cloud Services >> - New Parallel / Concurrent Programming Models for Cloud Computing >> - Pervasive / Ubiquitous Computing in the Cloud >> - Reliability, Fault Tolerance, Quality-of-Service >> - Service Level Agreements and Performance Measurement >> - Service-Oriented Architectures, RESTful Services in Cloud Environments >> >> =============== >> Important Dates >> =============== >> >> - Paper Submission Deadline: July 16, 2015 (extended) >> - Acceptance Notification: August 23, 2015 >> - Camera Ready Due: September 1, 2015 >> - Author Registration Due: September 1, 2015 >> >> ================ >> Paper Submission >> ================ >> >> FULL PAPERS >> Full paper submissions to Cloud and Trusted Computing 2015 (C&TC 2015) must >> present original, highly innovative, prospective and forward-looking >> research in one or more of the themes given above. Full papers must break >> new ground, present new insight, deliver a significant research contribution >> and provide validated support for its results and conclusions. Successful >> submissions typically represent a major advance for the field of cloud >> computing, referencing and relating the contribution to existing research >> work, giving a comprehensive, detailed and understandable explanation of a >> system, study, theory or methodology, and support the findings with a >> compelling evaluation and/or validation. Each paper must be submitted as a >> single PDF file in Springer Lecture Notes in Computer Science format (not >> longer than 18 pages in length). Accepted regular papers will be included in >> the printed conference main proceedings and presented in the paper sessions. >> Submissions to C&TC 2015 must not be under review by any other conference or >> publication at any time during the C&TC review cycle, and must not be >> previously published or accepted for publication elsewhere. >> >> NOTES >> Notes (not longer than 6 pages in length) must report new results and >> provide support for the results, as a novel and valuable contribution to the >> field – just like full papers. Notes are intended for succinct work that is >> nonetheless in a mature state ready for inclusion in archival proceedings. >> Notes will be held to the same standard of scientific quality as full >> papers, albeit for a shorter presentation, and must still state how they fit >> with respect to related work, and provide a compelling explanation and >> validation. Notes must be submitted as single PDF file in Springer Lecture >> Notes in Computer Science format. Accepted notes will be published in the >> conference main proceedings and will be presented in the paper sessions of >> the conference. >> >> A selection of the best papers from Cloud and Trusted Computing 2015 will be >> published in a special issue of The International Journal of Computer >> Systems Science and Engineering. >> >> Submissions are to be made to the submission web site available at >> http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/submitpaper >> >> PAPER FORMATTING AND PRESENTING >> The paper and notes submission site giving all the relevant submission >> details is located at: >> http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/authors-kit/camconfpapers. >> Failure to comply with the formatting instructions for submitted papers or >> notes will lead to the outright rejection of the paper without review. >> Failure to commit to presentation at the conference automatically excludes a >> paper from the proceedings. >> >> =============== >> Program Chairs >> =============== >> >> - Claudio Agostino Ardagna, Universita' degli studi di Milano, Italy >> - Meiko Jensen, Independent Centre for Privacy Protection >> Schleswig-Holstein, Germany >> >> ================== >> Advisory Committee >> ================== >> >> - Ernesto Damiani, Universita' degli studi di Milano, Italy >> - Salim Hariri, The University of Arizona, USA >> - Robert Meersman, Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium >> - Siani Pearson, HP Labs, UK >> >> ================= >> Program Committee >> ================= >> >> - Marco Anisetti, Universita' degli Studi di Milano, Italy >> - Vijay Atluri, Rutgers University, USA >> - N. Balakrishnan, Indian Institute of Science, India >> - Endre Bangerter, Bern University of Applied Sciences, Switzerland >> - Michele Bezzi, SAP, France >> - Bud Brugger, Fraunhofer IAO, Germany >> - Marco Casassa Mont, HP Labs, UK >> - David Chadwick, University of Kent, UK >> - Henry Chan, The Hong Kong Polytechnic University >> - Alfredo Cuzzocrea, University of Calabria, Italy >> - Ernesto Damiani, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy >> - Stefan Dessloch, University of Kaiserslautern, Germany >> - Francesco Di Cerbo, SAP Labs, France >> - Scharam Dustdar, Technical University of Vienna, Austria >> - Stefanos Gritzalis, University of the Aegean, Greece >> - Nils Gruschka, FH Kiel, Germany >> - Marit Hansen, Unabhangiges Landeszentrum fur Datenschutz >> Schleswig-Holstein, Kiel, Germany >> - Ching Hsien Hsu, Chung Hua University, Taiwan >> - Patrick Hung, University of Ontario, Canada >> - Martin Jaatun, SINTEF ICT, Norway >> - Florian Kerschbaum, SAP, Germany >> - Ryan Ko, University of Waikato, New Zealand >> - Zhiqiang Lin, UT Dallas, USA >> - Luigi Lo Iacono, Cologne University of Applied Sciences, Germany >> - Gregorio Martinez, University of Murcia, Spain >> - Hadi Otrok, Khalifa University, Abu Dhabi, UAE >> - Smriti R. Ramakrishnan, Oracle Corporation, USA >> - Damien Sauveron, Universite' de Limoges, France >> - Jorg Schwenk, Ruhr-Universität Bochum, Germany >> - Russell Sears, Pure Storage, USA >> - Bhavani Thuraisingham, UT Dallas, USA >> - Luca Vigano', King's College London, UK >> >> =============== >> Publicity Chair >> =============== >> >> - Fulvio Frati, Universita' degli Studi di Milano, Italy >> >> More information available at >> http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/cloud-trust-15 >> >> >> >> >> **************** >> Per destinare il 5x1000 all'Universita' degli Studi di Milano: indicare nella dichiarazione dei redditi il codice fiscale 80012650158. >> >> http://www.unimi.it/13084.htm?utm_source=firmaMail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=linkFirmaEmail&utm_campaign=5xmille >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From joly at punkcast.com Wed Jul 8 06:43:35 2015 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 06:43:35 -0400 Subject: [governance] Attn list owners: Conference spam on the list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: An appropriate place for such stuff I guess could be AoIR http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > > > Far too many copies of this on far too many lists and also much too > frequently. > > I second that. List owners: can you kick out/block those posts? > > Marcin > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Among the tricky IANA aspects: "How to ensure that stakeholder groups – supporting organizations (SOs) and advisory committees (ACs) in ICANN parlance – would have standing under California law to enforce the changes to the bylaws; How to incorporate the Government Advisory Committee (GAC) into the new ICANN structure without increasing its power relative to the other SOs and ACs; and, How to resolve outstanding questions regarding the potential for lawsuits that could impact the SOs and ACs." A CCWG proposal for an ICANN membership structure bit the dust in Buenos Aires, and we are pretty much back to the drawing board on this. On gTLDS, issues such as .amazon, .wine/.vin, and .sucks were discussed. Enjoy! joly posted: "On Wednesday July 8 2015, the U.S. House of Representatives Energy & Commerce Committee’s Subcommittee on Communications and Technology held a hearing Internet Governance Progress After ICANN 53 in Washington DC. Topics under discussion was the propos" [image: Energy + Commerce]On Wednesday* July 8 2015*, the *U.S. House of Representatives Energy & Commerce Committee’s Subcommittee on Communications and Technolog y* held a hearing *Internet Governance Progress After ICANN 53* in Washington DC. Topics under discussion was the proposed transfer of the IANA stewardship from the United States to the global Internet community, plus the expansion of generic Top Level Domains (gTLDs). Witnesses were *Larry Strickling * of the U.S. Dept. of Commerce and *Fadi Chehadé* *​ ​* of ICANN. Video is below *View on YouTube*: https://youtu.be/fD_lNKXTg2k?t=22m39s *Transcribe on AMARA*: http://www.amara.org/en/videos/Sd5FGVM7yfFg/ *Background memo*: http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF16/20150708/103711/HHRG-114-IF16-20150708-SD002.pdf *Twitter*: #SubCommTech | #ICANN53 Comment See all comments *​Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7881 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From carolina.rossini at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 09:22:31 2015 From: carolina.rossini at gmail.com (Carolina Rossini) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:22:31 -0400 Subject: [governance] FYI - Obama/Rouseff joint statement In-Reply-To: <5595F4A4.4030909@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <43A9ECC998684DBF9B4DAA178C4545E9@Toshiba> <5595F4A4.4030909@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: The main goal of her visit was the trade part, based on what I understand. Dilma was accompanied by lots of businesses and business associations. On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Stephanie Perrin < stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: > No mention of human rights in that statement Peter? I pulled out this > piece further up: > > The Presidents decided to initiate a human rights working group under the > aegis of the Global Partnership Dialogue. The objective of the Dialogue is > to exchange views and intensify efforts to strengthen multilateral human > rights institutions. The Presidents also noted the importance of relying > on independent, multilateral monitoring mechanisms to ensure the legitimacy > and credibility of international efforts to promote and defend human rights > and fundamental freedoms. > > But I note that it does not appear anywhere near the important material on > trade agreements, nor does it leaven the emphasis on cybersecurity we see > below. However, I suppose we must just focus on making sure the messages > are delivered at all the forums mentioned. Thanks for the update! > Kind regards > Stephanie Perrin > > On 2015-07-02 21:27, Ian Peter wrote: > > A joint statement has just been released by the Presidents of USA and > Brazil at > https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/06/30/joint-communique-president-barack-obama-and-president-dilma-rousseff > . > > It includes the following text > > “The United States and Brazil share the understanding that global Internet > governance must be transparent and inclusive, ensuring full participation > of governments, civil society, private sector and international > organizations, so that the potential of the Internet as a powerful tool for > economic and social development can be fulfilled. > > Both countries acknowledge the agenda approved by Netmundial conference > (São Paulo, April 2014) as a guide for discussions regarding the future of > the global internet governance system. > > Both countries reaffirm their adherence to the multistakeholder model of > Internet governance and, in this context, reaffirm their commitment to > cooperate for the success of the Tenth Internet Governance Forum (João > Pessoa, November 10 to 13, 2015), and extension of the IGF mandate. > > Likewise, they reaffirm their interest in participating actively in the > preparatory process of the High-Level Meeting of the UN General Assembly > for the Ten-Year Review of the WSIS outcomes, to be held in New York in > December 2015. > > Bilateral cooperation on cyber issues will be resumed by the convening of > the Second Meeting of the Working Group on Internet and Information and > Communications Technology in Brasilia in the second semester. The meeting > will offer the opportunity of exchanging experiences and exploring > possibilities for cooperation in a number of key areas, including > e-government, the digital economy, cybersecurity, cybercrime prevention, > capacity building activities, international security in cyberspace, and > research, development, and innovation.” > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- *Carolina Rossini * *Vice President, International Policy* *Public Knowledge* *http://www.publicknowledge.org/ * + 1 6176979389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Thu Jul 9 13:42:13 2015 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 19:42:13 +0200 Subject: [governance] BRICS References: <00b801d0ba45$e2b18960$a8149c20$@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E52@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Hi, the heads of states of the five BRICS Countries have just finished their summit in the Russian City of Ufa. They adopted a 50 pages declaration which includes (as the Forteleza Declaration in Brazil in 2014) also two long paragraphs related to Internet. There are more good than bad news in the document. And pobably one have to read the document by recognizing what is NOT in the adopted language: There is only little use of terminology like "Internet Governance" or "multistakeholderism". They do not mention ICANN or IANA or the IGF or the NetMundial conference. The used terminology is "ICT", the main subject is "security". The key Internet paras 33.4 - 33.6 say: 33.4 We consider that the Internet is a global resource and that states should participate on equal footing in its evaluation and funtioning, taking into account the need to involve relevant stakeholders in their respective roles and responsibilities." And they add in the sama para: "We are in favour of an open, non-fragmented and secure Internet. We uphold the roles and responsibilities of national governments in regard to regulation anf security of the ntwork." 33.5 acknolwledges the need "to promote, among others, the principles of multilateralism, democracy, transparency and mutual trust and stand for the universally agreed rules of conduct with regard to the network. It is necessary to ensure that the UN plays a fascilitating role in setting up international policies pertaining to the Internet. 33.5 We support the evolution of the Internet governance ecosystem, which should be based on an open and democratic process, free from the influence of any unilateral considerations." The other para 35 deals mainly with security questions. In 35.1 the heads of state recognize "the need for a universal regulatory binding instrument on combating the criminal use of ICTs under the UN auspieces. In 35.2 they reaffirm the "key role of the UN" in adressing Internet related security issues. The have also re-established the BRICS Working Group of experts on security in the use of ICTs. This Group will enhance cooperation among BRICS countries, including collaboration among existing CSIRTS. Would be good to know why they did not mention IANA Transition, IGF and WSIS 10+ Wolfgang -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net Thu Jul 9 13:55:10 2015 From: jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net (Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 19:55:10 +0200 Subject: [governance] BRICS In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <00b801d0ba45$e2b18960$a8149c20$@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E52@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: Thanks for that Should it be understood as: - Equal footing among states, then make sure than stakeholders can express themselves (but no equal footing with stakeholders) - Public policy making should be handled by governments ( "We uphold the roles and resp. of national governments..") - Open and democratic process sounds good. - Free of unilateral considerations (free of US diktat, what else?) - Key role of the UN (multilateral system I would say) For what is not mentioned, there also, everyone is free to understand the vacuums. We all know that Asymmetrism is still there for some time, and opponents to the "natural state of IG" or "statUSquo" will maintain their legitimate call for a balanced or universal IG. No news I would say. JC Le 9 juil. 2015 à 19:42, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang a écrit : > > > Hi, > > the heads of states of the five BRICS Countries have just finished their summit in the Russian City of Ufa. > > They adopted a 50 pages declaration which includes (as the Forteleza Declaration in Brazil in 2014) also two long paragraphs related to Internet. There are more good than bad news in the document. And pobably one have to read the document by recognizing what is NOT in the adopted language: There is only little use of terminology like "Internet Governance" or "multistakeholderism". They do not mention ICANN or IANA or the IGF or the NetMundial conference. The used terminology is "ICT", the main subject is "security". > > The key Internet paras 33.4 - 33.6 say: > > 33.4 We consider that the Internet is a global resource and that states should participate on equal footing in its evaluation and funtioning, taking into account the need to involve relevant stakeholders in their respective roles and responsibilities." And they add in the sama para: "We are in favour of an open, non-fragmented and secure Internet. We uphold the roles and responsibilities of national governments in regard to regulation anf security of the ntwork." > > 33.5 acknolwledges the need "to promote, among others, the principles of multilateralism, democracy, transparency and mutual trust and stand for the universally agreed rules of conduct with regard to the network. It is necessary to ensure that the UN plays a fascilitating role in setting up international policies pertaining to the Internet. > > 33.5 We support the evolution of the Internet governance ecosystem, which should be based on an open and democratic process, free from the influence of any unilateral considerations." > > The other para 35 deals mainly with security questions. In 35.1 the heads of state recognize "the need for a universal regulatory binding instrument on combating the criminal use of ICTs under the UN auspieces. > > In 35.2 they reaffirm the "key role of the UN" in adressing Internet related security issues. > > The have also re-established the BRICS Working Group of experts on security in the use of ICTs. This Group will enhance cooperation among BRICS countries, including collaboration among existing CSIRTS. > > Would be good to know why they did not mention IANA Transition, IGF and WSIS 10+ > > Wolfgang > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nashton at consensus.pro Thu Jul 9 14:59:46 2015 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:59:46 +0200 Subject: [governance] BRICS In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <00b801d0ba45$e2b18960$a8149c20$@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E52@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: Dear Wolfgang, As to your final question, it seems to me the answer is that the issues they've agreed about largely relate to hard security considerations where there was clear convergence of views. The subjects that you mention are by definition not in the same league - security trumps all - and that grouping of countries are not of like mind on those subjects either. Regards, Nick On 9 Jul 2015, at 19:42, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: > > > Hi, > > the heads of states of the five BRICS Countries have just finished their summit in the Russian City of Ufa. > > They adopted a 50 pages declaration which includes (as the Forteleza Declaration in Brazil in 2014) also two long paragraphs related to Internet. There are more good than bad news in the document. And pobably one have to read the document by recognizing what is NOT in the adopted language: There is only little use of terminology like "Internet Governance" or "multistakeholderism". They do not mention ICANN or IANA or the IGF or the NetMundial conference. The used terminology is "ICT", the main subject is "security". > > The key Internet paras 33.4 - 33.6 say: > > 33.4 We consider that the Internet is a global resource and that states should participate on equal footing in its evaluation and funtioning, taking into account the need to involve relevant stakeholders in their respective roles and responsibilities." And they add in the sama para: "We are in favour of an open, non-fragmented and secure Internet. We uphold the roles and responsibilities of national governments in regard to regulation anf security of the ntwork." > > 33.5 acknolwledges the need "to promote, among others, the principles of multilateralism, democracy, transparency and mutual trust and stand for the universally agreed rules of conduct with regard to the network. It is necessary to ensure that the UN plays a fascilitating role in setting up international policies pertaining to the Internet. > > 33.5 We support the evolution of the Internet governance ecosystem, which should be based on an open and democratic process, free from the influence of any unilateral considerations." > > The other para 35 deals mainly with security questions. In 35.1 the heads of state recognize "the need for a universal regulatory binding instrument on combating the criminal use of ICTs under the UN auspieces. > > In 35.2 they reaffirm the "key role of the UN" in adressing Internet related security issues. > > The have also re-established the BRICS Working Group of experts on security in the use of ICTs. This Group will enhance cooperation among BRICS countries, including collaboration among existing CSIRTS. > > Would be good to know why they did not mention IANA Transition, IGF and WSIS 10+ > > Wolfgang > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 670 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From dave at difference.com.au Thu Jul 9 22:04:06 2015 From: dave at difference.com.au (David Cake) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 10:04:06 +0800 Subject: [governance] FYI - Obama/Rouseff joint statement In-Reply-To: <824C47E9-0791-4352-AE42-E7A6BAC09B46@hserus.net> References: <43A9ECC998684DBF9B4DAA178C4545E9@Toshiba> <5595F4A4.4030909@mail.utoronto.ca> <824C47E9-0791-4352-AE42-E7A6BAC09B46@hserus.net> Message-ID: <76B81B93-F4F9-4D72-B1AD-D39049338E53@difference.com.au> > On 3 Jul 2015, at 10:40 am, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > > Wouldn't you say that safety and security online as well as offline is a fundamental human right? Well, human rights are a specific list of rights, not merely a way of talking about aspirational desires for good things. But article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is relevant here: > No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks. In so far as cyber-security issues can interfere with the privacy or correspondence, or constitute attacks on honour or reputation, they can be a human rights issue. This does not mean that all cyber-security issues are therefore human rights issues, of course, and the broader term includes a lot of issues that have very little to do with human rights. > Being phished and having your bank account emptied, your personal data misused etc is, while bloodless, far more damaging than being mugged and relieved of your purse and phone on a street. > > For several activist groups, the threat of any number of government and/or other interests hacking into their communications remains a key concern. > > Speaking as someone who has worked in security for over fifteen years it is a fascinating field where there is a fine balance constantly struck between security and privacy. As made clear in article 12, if you want to look at it from a human rights perspective, the preservation of privacy is a primary justification FOR cyber-securirty. Focussing on security to the point that it decreases privacy is bad from a human rights perspective - but as you point out, a regular part of cyber-security dialog is to talk in terms of balance, by which is meant how much should privacy be compromised in the cause of security. So when the emphasis shifts from human rights to cyber-security in general, human rights advocates (and privacy advocates specifically) have some cause for worry, just as a focus on ‘national security’, while theoretically compatible with human rights, gives some cause to worry about surveillance, increased search and seizure, and other weakening of human rights. > So I would not cite any emphasis on cyber security as harmful or bad on the face of it It is not intrinsically bad, but an emphasis on cyber-security over human rights is a legitimate cause for concern. David > > --srs > >> On 03-Jul-2015, at 8:04 am, Stephanie Perrin wrote: >> >> But I note that it does not appear anywhere near the important material on trade agreements, nor does it leaven the emphasis on cybersecurity we see below. > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It is quite possible for this talk of cybersecurity to be a stalking horse for surveillance and repression - in the political context in which the discussion takes place. > On 10-Jul-2015, at 7:34 am, David Cake wrote: > > As made clear in article 12, if you want to look at it from a human rights perspective, the preservation of privacy is a primary justification FOR cyber-securirty. Focussing on security to the point that it decreases privacy is bad from a human rights perspective - but as you point out, a regular part of cyber-security dialog is to talk in terms of balance, by which is meant how much should privacy be compromised in the cause of security. So when the emphasis shifts from human rights to cyber-security in general, human rights advocates (and privacy advocates specifically) have some cause for worry, just as a focus on ‘national security’, while theoretically compatible with human rights, gives some cause to worry about surveillance, increased search and seizure, and other weakening of human rights. > >> So I would not cite any emphasis on cyber security as harmful or bad on the face of it > > It is not intrinsically bad, but an emphasis on cyber-security over human rights is a legitimate cause for concern. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But no state that considers itself powerful is today far behind… and each step one takes, encourages the next to take another one : China adopts new security law to make networks, systems 'controllable' BEIJING | By Michael Martina http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/01/us-china-security-idUSKCN0PB39H20150701 China's legislature adopted a sweeping national security law on Wednesday that covers everything from territorial sovereignty to measures to tighten cyber security, a move likely to rile foreign businesses. A core component of the law, passed by the standing committee of the National People's Congress (NPC), is to make all key network infrastructure and information systems "secure and controllable". President Xi Jinping has said China's security covers areas including politics, culture, the military, the economy, technology and the environment. But foreign business groups and diplomats have argued that the law is vague and fear it could require that technology firms make products in China or use source code released to inspectors, forcing them to expose intellectual property. Zheng Shuna, vice chairwoman of the Legislative Affairs Commission of the NPC standing committee, downplayed those concerns, saying China welcomes "all countries' businesses to operate in China and provide legitimate services according to law". "We will continue to follow the path of peaceful development but we absolutely will not give up our legitimate rights and absolutely will not sacrifice the country's core interests," she said at a briefing. The security of territorial seas and airspace is among those core interests, which, according to the legislation, China will take "all necessary measures" to safeguard. The law, which comes amid tensions with neighbors over disputes in the South China and East China Seas, passed through the NPC standing committee, the top body of China's rubber stamp parliament, by a vote of 154 to zero, with one abstention. 'GROWING INFLUENCE OF HARDLINERS' The national security law is part of a raft of government legislation - including laws on anti-terrorism, cyber security and foreign non-government organizations - that have drawn criticism from foreign governments, business and civil society groups. Those policies, many of which have cyber security components, have emerged after former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden disclosed that U.S. spy agencies planted code in American tech exports to snoop on overseas targets. "The fact that these different pieces of legislation are all moving forward in tandem indicates the seriousness of Beijing's commitment as well as the growing influence of hardliners shaping China's technology policy agenda," Samm Sacks, an analyst at U.S.-based consulting firm Eurasia Group, said in an emailed statement. Critics have argued that the extensive nature of the law, which covers everything from China's deep sea and space assets to "harmful cultural influences", constitutes national security overreach. Its passage also coincides with a crackdown on dissent, as the government has detained and jailed activists and blamed "foreign forces" for the pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong last year. Hong Kong and Macau must "fulfill responsibilities to safeguard national security" according to the law, which also covers crimes of subversion and inciting rebellion. That reference could spark more fears of Beijing encroaching on Hong Kong's rule of law. Britain returned Hong Kong to China in 1997 under a "one country, two systems" formula, with the promise of a high degree of autonomy. Unlike on the mainland, Hong Kong does not have laws criminalizing subversion of the state. Macau, a former Portuguese colony, returned to China in 1999. Some seven months after Hong Kong police forcibly cleared pro-democracy protesters from the streets, tens of thousands of people were expected to rally for free elections on Wednesday as the city marks the 18th anniversary of its return to China. (Additional reporting by Sui-Lee Wee ; Editing by Raju Gopalakrishnan and Nick Macfie ) China overreaches with new security law FRANK CHING Special to The Globe and Mail Published Wednesday, Jul. 08, 2015 3:00AM EDT Last updated Wednesday, Jul. 08, 2015 3:00AM EDT http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/china-reaches-wide-and-deep-with-new-security-law/article25343592/ China’s new national security law, enacted last week by the National People’s Congress, the country’s parliament, is worrying on several levels, both because of what it says and because of what is left ambiguous. To soothe local worries, Hong Kong’s Secretary for Justice, Rimsky Yuen, described the new law as little more than a “declaration of principles” that is “a blueprint for overall national security.” Similarly, one of his predecessors, Elsie Leung, called it “framework legislation.” Indeed, the law is striking for its lack of specificity. But it is chilling in its sweep, potentially including every sphere of activity, foreign as well as domestic, within the realm of national security. It provides for a national security review mechanism that would cover all activities “that impact or might impact national security,” from foreign investment to Internet information technology. The law identifies the interests of the Communist Party with those of the Chinese state. The first article asserts that the law is “to defend the people’s democratic dictatorship and the system of socialism with Chinese characteristics” before saying that it is also meant “to protect the fundamental interests of the people.” “Socialism with Chinese characteristics” is the official ideology of the Communist Party. Thus, defending the party’s monopoly on power is defined as maintaining national security. That is to say, anyone supporting democracy is ipso facto guilty of undermining national security. Since 2009, China’s diplomats have informed the world that the country’s core interests were headed by “upholding our basic system,” that is, maintaining the existence of the party-state. This was followed by sovereignty and territorial integrity and, lastly, economic and social development. The new security law is consistent with this formulation. But such an approach can easily provide a pretext for a crackdown on domestic dissent as well as on “foreign interference.” The new law warns “individuals and organizations” not to endanger national security or to provide any support or assistance to individuals or organizations endangering national security. By defining national security in broad and vague terms, the law is likely to cause unease to citizens and put psychological pressure on them to ask themselves if they should engage in social, cultural or other activities that may be even remotely interpreted as being illegal. One example is religion. While paying lip service to upholding the principle of freedom of religion, the law threatens punishment of those who “conduct illegal and criminal activities” in the name of religion. The law also seems to endow itself with extraterritorial jurisdiction. It defines China’s national interests as including the “peaceful exploration and use of outer space” as well as of international seabed areas and of both the Arctic and Antarctic polar regions; hence, protecting such interests are now part of upholding national security. With global warming, interest in the Arctic and the riches of its seabed is increasing. China does not border the Arctic but calls itself a near-Arctic state, with rights and interests in the seabed. The new law declares that China will take “necessary measures in accordance with law” to protect the security and the legitimate rights and interests of overseas Chinese citizens, organizations and institutions and also ensure that the country’s overseas interests “are not threatened or encroached upon.” With China now involved in trade and diplomacy in every corner of the world, Chinese business people and tourists are active in virtually all countries, big or small. Last year, more than 100 million Chinese travelled abroad. ______________________________ Jai Sen jai.sen at cacim.net / jai at openword.in www.cacim.net / http://www.openword.in Now based in New Delhi, India (+91-98189 11325) and in Ottawa, Canada (+1-613-282 2900) NEW PUBLICATIONS : Jai Sen, ed, 2013 – The Movements of Movements : Struggles for Other Worlds, Part I. Volume 4 Part I in the Challenging Empires series. New Delhi : OpenWord. 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IMPORTANT DATES Papers and Student Posters Submission 15 July 2015 (extended) Submission of Tutorials 15 July 2015 (extended) Notification for Tutorials 30 August 2015 Notification for Papers and Student Posters from 9 September 2015 Final Camera-Ready 29 September 2015 SCOPE The International Conference on Innovations in Information Technology 2015 (IIT'15) is a forum that addresses the latest ideas in information technology (IT). The theme of IIT'15 is Smart Cities and all of the software and hardware technologies that are required to provide better living conditions in the cities of tomorrow. This theme will be reflected by a number of tracks which focus on different aspects of related technologies such as Big Data, cloud computing, collaborative platforms, communication infrastructures, smart health, smart learning, social participation, sustainable development and energy management. All of those themes will be brought together by unifying invited high quality keynotes and panels. 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On behalf of the IIT'15 Organizing Committee **************** Per destinare il 5x1000 all'Universita' degli Studi di Milano: indicare nella dichiarazione dei redditi il codice fiscale 80012650158. http://www.unimi.it/13084.htm?utm_source=firmaMail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=linkFirmaEmail&utm_campaign=5xmille -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Fri Jul 10 21:54:14 2015 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 07:24:14 +0530 Subject: [governance] [Deadline Approaching: July 15th] 2015 11th International Conference on Innovations in Information Technology (IIT'15) In-Reply-To: <021601d0bb36$b12367a0$136a36e0$@unimi.it> References: <021601d0bb36$b12367a0$136a36e0$@unimi.it> Message-ID: Can some kind soul please throw him off this list? > On 10-Jul-2015, at 11:04 pm, Fulvio Frati wrote: > > **** Deadline Approaching: July 15th **** > > [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Fri Jul 10 16:36:08 2015 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 22:36:08 +0200 Subject: [governance] BRICS & NMI References: <00b801d0ba45$e2b18960$a8149c20$@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E52@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E76@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Hi. here is an interersting article from the BRICS Meeting in The Hindu: http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/brics-leaders-meet-in-ufa-for-the-annual-summit/article7400020.ece and here is my article on the Net Mundial Council Meeting in Circle ID http://www.circleid.com/posts/20150709_quintett_leads_net_mundial_initiative_enabling_multistakeholder/ Wolfgang -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nashton at consensus.pro Sat Jul 11 05:11:14 2015 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 11:11:14 +0200 Subject: [governance] [Deadline Approaching: July 15th] 2015 11th International Conference on Innovations in Information Technology (IIT'15) In-Reply-To: References: <021601d0bb36$b12367a0$136a36e0$@unimi.it> Message-ID: … Or just put him on receive-only. > On 11 Jul 2015, at 03:54, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > > Can some kind soul please throw him off this list? > >> On 10-Jul-2015, at 11:04 pm, Fulvio Frati > wrote: >> >> **** Deadline Approaching: July 15th **** >> >> [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP] > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It confirms some fundamental facts about multistakeholderism (repeat, with regard to public policy issues). 1. it is more to obfuscate and stall movement on such issues than to contribute anything concrete. As NMI has indeed been principally formed to anticipate and nullify any possibilities from the WSIS plus 10 process, something that the chief achitect of NMI, Fad,i has more or less openly stated. So, we keep hearing more empty statements, and see more non-activity disguised as activity. (Pointing to issue mapping done by others can hardly be described as a contribution.) Nobody has any idea what this Initiative is really meant to do or is going to do, but we are supposed to cheer it nonetheless. 2. MSism is really about big business's domination of public policy processes, and a platform using which big business could influence them early, mostly with a view to stall and veto any 'undesirable' possibilities. Developments about the NMI continues to prove this fact. But just because they have roped in a big business from China (one which is the only Internet business on the governing body of the WEF, and so a bit obvious), one that certainly has global ambitions and footprints, for some strange reason we are supposed to get extremely happy. 3. On a lesser note, with due apologies, it is about cooptation, and keeping a lot of civil society leaders occupied and happy. Which inter alia defangs civil society capacity . Wolfgang, btw, wanted a clarification, your article ends with 'there is a lot to do' immediately after the sentence about BRICS underlining "the need for a universal regulatory binding instrument on combating the criminal use of ICTS under UN auspices." Did not understand what you meant here. Thanks for clarifying. parminder > > and here is my article on the Net Mundial Council Meeting in Circle ID > http://www.circleid.com/posts/20150709_quintett_leads_net_mundial_initiative_enabling_multistakeholder/ > > Wolfgang > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From keith at internetnz.net.nz Mon Jul 13 08:23:41 2015 From: keith at internetnz.net.nz (Keith Davidson) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 00:23:41 +1200 Subject: [governance] BRICS In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <00b801d0ba45$e2b18960$a8149c20$@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E52@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <55A3ADCD.9010504@internetnz.net.nz> Does this means the ICANN "breakthroughs" of having Brazil and India pledging allegiance to multistakeholderism is now meaningless, as the heads of state of BRICS have reaffirmed their commitment to multilateralism? Cheers Keith On 10/07/2015 5:42 a.m., "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: > > > Hi, > > the heads of states of the five BRICS Countries have just finished their summit in the Russian City of Ufa. > > They adopted a 50 pages declaration which includes (as the Forteleza Declaration in Brazil in 2014) also two long paragraphs related to Internet. There are more good than bad news in the document. And pobably one have to read the document by recognizing what is NOT in the adopted language: There is only little use of terminology like "Internet Governance" or "multistakeholderism". They do not mention ICANN or IANA or the IGF or the NetMundial conference. The used terminology is "ICT", the main subject is "security". > > The key Internet paras 33.4 - 33.6 say: > > 33.4 We consider that the Internet is a global resource and that states should participate on equal footing in its evaluation and funtioning, taking into account the need to involve relevant stakeholders in their respective roles and responsibilities." And they add in the sama para: "We are in favour of an open, non-fragmented and secure Internet. We uphold the roles and responsibilities of national governments in regard to regulation anf security of the ntwork." > > 33.5 acknolwledges the need "to promote, among others, the principles of multilateralism, democracy, transparency and mutual trust and stand for the universally agreed rules of conduct with regard to the network. It is necessary to ensure that the UN plays a fascilitating role in setting up international policies pertaining to the Internet. > > 33.5 We support the evolution of the Internet governance ecosystem, which should be based on an open and democratic process, free from the influence of any unilateral considerations." > > The other para 35 deals mainly with security questions. In 35.1 the heads of state recognize "the need for a universal regulatory binding instrument on combating the criminal use of ICTs under the UN auspieces. > > In 35.2 they reaffirm the "key role of the UN" in adressing Internet related security issues. > > The have also re-established the BRICS Working Group of experts on security in the use of ICTs. This Group will enhance cooperation among BRICS countries, including collaboration among existing CSIRTS. > > Would be good to know why they did not mention IANA Transition, IGF and WSIS 10+ > > Wolfgang > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Mon Jul 13 10:26:22 2015 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:26:22 +0200 Subject: AW: [governance] BRICS References: <00b801d0ba45$e2b18960$a8149c20$@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E52@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <55A3ADCD.9010504@internetnz.net.nz> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29EAD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Keith: Does this means the ICANN "breakthroughs" of having Brazil and India pledging allegiance to multistakeholderism is now meaningless, as the heads of state of BRICS have reaffirmed their commitment to multilateralism? Good question Keith, my understanding was always that the "multilateralists" vs."multistakeholderists" battle is a purely ideological battle and does not match the reality. The reality is that the intergovernmental treaty system (which is based on the Vienne Convention of the Law of Treaties) will not disappear the next 100 years. And we will have also in the Internet world multilateral treaties where governments agree among themselvs (in a legally binding form) about rights, duties and responsibilities. Take the Budapest Cybercrime Convention which is ratfied by states which support the multistakeholder approach (and which is not ratified by governments which support the multilateral approach). But on top of legally binding hard law treaties there will be more and more soft law instruments or other arrangements. In many areas where we have global problems, governments are and will be unable to agree. States/government have different ideas, interests and objectives and do not want to agree if it comes to issues where they see national interests and national sovereignty at stake. But the system of international relations is much broader and more complex then bi- or multilateral legally binding relationships among governments. Insofar the multistakeholder approach allows to find more flexible arrangements which can produce even more stability than legally binding treaties (which can be also ignored when governments change their mind or the circumstances are changing/ clausular rebus sic stantibus) because such multistakeholder arrangements pull non-governmental stakeholders into a mechanism where those groups from the private sector, the technical community or even civil society take committments to themselves to follow certain principles, norms or programms (as described in the WGIG Definition). Such an approach does not exclude intergovernmental arrangements. They are and will continue to be a part of the broader picture. The language I use is that today "the multilateral system is "embedded" into a multistakeholder environment". So it is not "either-or". You can have both. This are two different layers. And BTW, the Indian minister in BA used the language "multistakeholder and multilayer" mechanism which is correct in my eyes. With regard to the BRICS: There is the draft convention by the Shanghai Group in the 1st Committee of the UNGA. I expect that it is rather unrealistic that this draft gets universal acceptance. Some elements are reflected now in the new report of the Group of Governmental Experts, which will be published early August and discussed by the UNGA in October. The Ufa Declaration tries to keep the door open. India, Brazil, even China can continue with a "double strategy". But this is part of the political cat and mouse game. The "Ufa Declaration" does not mention anymore a "regional cybersecurity treaty" (as it was considered by some Russian experts). The member states of the African Union have negotiated a regional cybersecurity treaty. So one scenario could be to have three (or four or five) regional multilateral cybersecurity treaties. This is probably gone. A good move. The reality is that we probably will continue with a situation where the 50+ member states of the Budapest Convention invite the non-member states to sign and ratify the Budapest Convention and the other governments (including the BRICS countries) propose to have a new convention under the auspices of the UN. Difficult to make any forcast how this will be played out. Here is an excerpt from a previous article I wrote to the issue: "An important role will play how the numerous involved governmental and non-governmental actors understand the nature of the complexity of the Internet Governance Eco-System. Already the terminology "Internet Governance Eco-System" signals that the Internet is not just "another policy issue" which — after the revelations of Edward Snowden — has been pushed now for policy decision makers from "low priority" to "high priority". The problem is much more complex. The Internet is not a "single issue" which needs to be regulated in one way or another. The Internet, as it has evolved over half of a century, has penetrated all areas of the political, economic, cultural and social life around the globe. It constitutes more and more the environment in which individuals and institutions do live and learn, do their business, buy and sell, make love and fun and have all kind of individual or collective activities. The Internet Governance Eco-System constitutes to a high degree the virtual environment of the 21st century. Life without the Internet is meanwhile unthinkable for the young generation which are the decision makers of tomorrow. From the 20th century we know about the consequences of the pollution of our natural environment. The lesson learned from those disasters is that we should be very careful with all kinds of pollutions and keep our real and virtual environment as healthy as possible. The Internet Governance Eco-System can be compared a little bit to the rainforest. In the rainforest an uncountable number of diverse plants and animals live together in a very complex system. In the "virtual rainforest" we have also an endless and growing diversity of networks, services, applications, regimes and other properties which co-exist in a mutual interdependent mechanism of communication, coordination and collaboration. One thing which can be learnt is that the rainforest as a whole is not managable. It can be neither governed nor controlled, but it can be damaged and destroyed. In the Internet Governance Eco-System many players with very different legal status operate on many different layers, on local, national, regional and international levels, driven by technical innovation, user needs, market opportunities and political interests. Good Question Keith, As a result we see a very dynamic process where — from a political-legal perspective — a broad variety of different regulatory, co-regulatory or self-regulatory regimes emerge, co-exist and complement or conflict each other. The system as a whole is decentralized, diversified and has no central authority. However, within the various subsystems there is an incredible broad variety of different sub-mechanisms which range from hierarchical structures under single or inter-governmental control to non-hierarchical networks based on self-regulatory mechanisms by non-governmental groups with a wide range of co-regulatory arrangements in between where affected and concerned stakeholders from governments, private sector, civil society and technical community are working hand in hand. There is no "one size fits all" solution. The specific form of each sub-system has to be designed according to the very specific needs and nature of the individual issue. In such a mechanism, traditional national legislation and intergovernmental agreements continue to play a role but have to be embedded into the broader multistakeholder environment while new emerging mechanisms have to take note and recognize existing frameworks and regulations on various levels. The "do-not-harm" principle becomes more important than ever. It means that whatever a governmental or non-governmental player will do in the Internet has to take into consideration its direct or indirect consequences for not involved third parties as well as the unintended side-effects for the system as a whole. Such a competitive coexistence of rather different regimes and mechanisms creates opportunities but has also risks. There are incredible opportunities for new mechanisms, platforms and services to bring more dynamic into political strategies, social actions and market developments. This competitive coexistence can stimulate innovation, promote job creation, enlarge all kinds of cultural activities and broaden the use of individual freedoms by the public at large both in developed and developing nations. But there is also a risk that differences between regimes and systems create controversies and produce heavy conflicts which includes the threat to turn down innovation, hamper sustainable development, to reduce individual freedoms and to pollute the Internet Governance Eco-System in a way that parts of it will be damaged or destroyed. The challenge is to find flexible mechanisms for enhanced communication, coordination as well as formal and informal collaboration among the various players at the different layers to allow that all stakeholders can play their respective role on an equal footing without discrimination in an open and transparent mechanism. Among the key principles for such an enhanced cooperation are, inter alia, mutual respect and recognition of the role of other stakeholders, legitimacy, checks and balances in a workable and recognized accountability system, early engagement and others. http://www.circleid.com/posts/20131231_internet_governance_outlook_2014_good_news_bad_news_no_news/ Does this means the ICANN "breakthroughs" of having Brazil and India pledging allegiance to multistakeholderism is now meaningless, as the heads of state of BRICS have reaffirmed their commitment to multilateralism? Cheers Keith On 10/07/2015 5:42 a.m., "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: > > > Hi, > > the heads of states of the five BRICS Countries have just finished their summit in the Russian City of Ufa. > > They adopted a 50 pages declaration which includes (as the Forteleza Declaration in Brazil in 2014) also two long paragraphs related to Internet. There are more good than bad news in the document. And pobably one have to read the document by recognizing what is NOT in the adopted language: There is only little use of terminology like "Internet Governance" or "multistakeholderism". They do not mention ICANN or IANA or the IGF or the NetMundial conference. The used terminology is "ICT", the main subject is "security". > > The key Internet paras 33.4 - 33.6 say: > > 33.4 We consider that the Internet is a global resource and that states should participate on equal footing in its evaluation and funtioning, taking into account the need to involve relevant stakeholders in their respective roles and responsibilities." And they add in the sama para: "We are in favour of an open, non-fragmented and secure Internet. We uphold the roles and responsibilities of national governments in regard to regulation anf security of the ntwork." > > 33.5 acknolwledges the need "to promote, among others, the principles of multilateralism, democracy, transparency and mutual trust and stand for the universally agreed rules of conduct with regard to the network. It is necessary to ensure that the UN plays a fascilitating role in setting up international policies pertaining to the Internet. > > 33.5 We support the evolution of the Internet governance ecosystem, which should be based on an open and democratic process, free from the influence of any unilateral considerations." > > The other para 35 deals mainly with security questions. In 35.1 the heads of state recognize "the need for a universal regulatory binding instrument on combating the criminal use of ICTs under the UN auspieces. > > In 35.2 they reaffirm the "key role of the UN" in adressing Internet related security issues. > > The have also re-established the BRICS Working Group of experts on security in the use of ICTs. This Group will enhance cooperation among BRICS countries, including collaboration among existing CSIRTS. > > Would be good to know why they did not mention IANA Transition, IGF and WSIS 10+ > > Wolfgang > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Mon Jul 13 11:11:40 2015 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:11:40 +0200 Subject: [governance] BRICS In-Reply-To: <55A3ADCD.9010504@internetnz.net.nz> References: <00b801d0ba45$e2b18960$a8149c20$@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E52@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <55A3ADCD.9010504@internetnz.net.nz> Message-ID: <55A3D52C.4070902@apc.org> Dear Keith In the case of both India and Brazil, and also of South Africa, commitment to multistakeholder processes and multilateralism should not be seen as mutually exclusive. I did feel that India's statements at the Buenos Aires ICANN meeting was being rather 'over-interpreted'. They believe in both multistakeholderism multilateralism and want both. This is actually not all that new. They (and we) just rarely get to talk about the detail which is where the devil lies. What is interesting in this statement is that it affirms multistakeholder participation but with the 'respective roles and responsibilities' language of the Tunis Agenda. This is not bad in itself, but it can result in a very limited space for particularly civil society inclusion. What is also interesting is that they specify that equal footing is among governments. This is a longstanding demand and it is one that will not go away. They are making the legitimate demand in my view that a 'global resource' be developed and managed in a global way, with all governments having equal voice. Nongovernmental actors should not be intimidated by this. Whether more equal footing among 'old empire' and 'new empire' will be good for a fair and open internet and inclusive internet governance is the real question. But assuming that the existing status quo is necessarily better for nongovernmental stakeholder participation just because Europe/US are so much more explicit about their support for multistakeholderism is not enough. I think that having a global agreement on security that is transparent and with enforcement being in the public domain is not necessarily a bad thing as it could be easier to insist on adherence to human rights than with secret, bilateral deals. On the other hand, reaching such an agreement will be very difficult. What is significant is that they are not proposing a comprehensive internet treaty. That they say the the UN should play a "facilitating role in setting up international policies pertaining to the Internet" is not a bad thing and could be interpreted as including the IGF. I think this is far, far better than the previous CIRP proposal of the UN setting a new body to make internet policy which was simply not feasible in my view and would have produced a bottleneck stopping progress such as what we have seen in, for example, the Human Rights Council. In practice the UN is already facilitating several internet-related policies, e.g. the Human Rights Council's resolutions on internet freedom of expression and the General Assembly resolution on privacy. ICANN internationalisation remains a concern and I think it is definitely there 'between the lines'. I think that the IANA transition is just one part of this which is probably why, Wolfgang, they did not mention it. But while I am not convinced by the 'human rights' bits (this would be real progress if South Africa really believed this - as recently as June 2015 they questioned the notion that rights that apply offline also apply online in a statement to the Human Rights Council) I don't think we should see this as a rejection of multistakeholder internet governance or the 'evolution of the internet governance ecosystem'. (This, and the internet as a public resource does come out of the NETmundial statement). I think it simply means that they are not letting go of wanting a more equal distribution of power and influence over internet policy and regulation among governments. And, a secondary layer to this is of course having a more equal distribution of opportunity for internet-related business and industry. What I would have liked to see, and I think we should ask for it, is for BRICS to adopt the NETmundial principles for internet governance. Anriette On 13/07/2015 14:23, Keith Davidson wrote: > Does this means the ICANN "breakthroughs" of having Brazil and India > pledging allegiance to multistakeholderism is now meaningless, as the > heads of state of BRICS have reaffirmed their commitment to > multilateralism? > > Cheers > > Keith > > On 10/07/2015 5:42 a.m., "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> the heads of states of the five BRICS Countries have just finished >> their summit in the Russian City of Ufa. >> >> They adopted a 50 pages declaration which includes (as the Forteleza >> Declaration in Brazil in 2014) also two long paragraphs related to >> Internet. There are more good than bad news in the document. And >> pobably one have to read the document by recognizing what is NOT in >> the adopted language: There is only little use of terminology like >> "Internet Governance" or "multistakeholderism". They do not mention >> ICANN or IANA or the IGF or the NetMundial conference. The used >> terminology is "ICT", the main subject is "security". >> >> The key Internet paras 33.4 - 33.6 say: >> >> 33.4 We consider that the Internet is a global resource and that >> states should participate on equal footing in its evaluation and >> funtioning, taking into account the need to involve relevant >> stakeholders in their respective roles and responsibilities." And they >> add in the sama para: "We are in favour of an open, non-fragmented and >> secure Internet. We uphold the roles and responsibilities of national >> governments in regard to regulation anf security of the ntwork." >> >> 33.5 acknolwledges the need "to promote, among others, the principles >> of multilateralism, democracy, transparency and mutual trust and stand >> for the universally agreed rules of conduct with regard to the >> network. It is necessary to ensure that the UN plays a fascilitating >> role in setting up international policies pertaining to the Internet. >> >> 33.5 We support the evolution of the Internet governance ecosystem, >> which should be based on an open and democratic process, free from the >> influence of any unilateral considerations." >> >> The other para 35 deals mainly with security questions. In 35.1 the >> heads of state recognize "the need for a universal regulatory binding >> instrument on combating the criminal use of ICTs under the UN auspieces. >> >> In 35.2 they reaffirm the "key role of the UN" in adressing Internet >> related security issues. >> >> The have also re-established the BRICS Working Group of experts on >> security in the use of ICTs. This Group will enhance cooperation among >> BRICS countries, including collaboration among existing CSIRTS. >> >> Would be good to know why they did not mention IANA Transition, IGF >> and WSIS 10+ >> >> Wolfgang >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- ----------------------------------------- Anriette Esterhuysen Executive Director Association for Progressive Communications anriette at apc.org www.apc.org IM: ae_apc -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Mon Jul 13 11:42:29 2015 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:42:29 +0200 Subject: [governance] BRICS In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29EAD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <00b801d0ba45$e2b18960$a8149c20$@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E52@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <55A3ADCD.9010504@internetnz.net.nz> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29EAD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <55A3DC65.5060608@apc.org> Our messages crossed Wolfgang. I think we are in general agreement. As civil society what we need is a clear vision of what we want internet governance to look like - and we need to demand that consistently from all governments, both in multilateral contexts and in the multistakeholder space, and in all regions and from all blocs. Anriette On 13/07/2015 16:26, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: > Keith: > Does this means the ICANN "breakthroughs" of having Brazil and India pledging allegiance to multistakeholderism is now meaningless, as the heads of state of BRICS have reaffirmed their commitment to multilateralism? > > Good question Keith, > > my understanding was always that the "multilateralists" vs."multistakeholderists" battle is a purely ideological battle and does not match the reality. > > The reality is that the intergovernmental treaty system (which is based on the Vienne Convention of the Law of Treaties) will not disappear the next 100 years. And we will have also in the Internet world multilateral treaties where governments agree among themselvs (in a legally binding form) about rights, duties and responsibilities. Take the Budapest Cybercrime Convention which is ratfied by states which support the multistakeholder approach (and which is not ratified by governments which support the multilateral approach). > > But on top of legally binding hard law treaties there will be more and more soft law instruments or other arrangements. In many areas where we have global problems, governments are and will be unable to agree. States/government have different ideas, interests and objectives and do not want to agree if it comes to issues where they see national interests and national sovereignty at stake. But the system of international relations is much broader and more complex then bi- or multilateral legally binding relationships among governments. > > Insofar the multistakeholder approach allows to find more flexible arrangements which can produce even more stability than legally binding treaties (which can be also ignored when governments change their mind or the circumstances are changing/ clausular rebus sic stantibus) because such multistakeholder arrangements pull non-governmental stakeholders into a mechanism where those groups from the private sector, the technical community or even civil society take committments to themselves to follow certain principles, norms or programms (as described in the WGIG Definition). > > Such an approach does not exclude intergovernmental arrangements. They are and will continue to be a part of the broader picture. The language I use is that today "the multilateral system is "embedded" into a multistakeholder environment". So it is not "either-or". You can have both. This are two different layers. And BTW, the Indian minister in BA used the language "multistakeholder and multilayer" mechanism which is correct in my eyes. > > With regard to the BRICS: There is the draft convention by the Shanghai Group in the 1st Committee of the UNGA. I expect that it is rather unrealistic that this draft gets universal acceptance. Some elements are reflected now in the new report of the Group of Governmental Experts, which will be published early August and discussed by the UNGA in October. The Ufa Declaration tries to keep the door open. India, Brazil, even China can continue with a "double strategy". But this is part of the political cat and mouse game. The "Ufa Declaration" does not mention anymore a "regional cybersecurity treaty" (as it was considered by some Russian experts). The member states of the African Union have negotiated a regional cybersecurity treaty. So one scenario could be to have three (or four or five) regional multilateral cybersecurity treaties. This is probably gone. A good move. The reality is that we probably will continue with a situation where the 50+ member states of the Budapest Conventio n invite the non-member states to sign and ratify the Budapest Convention and the other governments (including the BRICS countries) propose to have a new convention under the auspices of the UN. Difficult to make any forcast how this will be played out. > > > Here is an excerpt from a previous article I wrote to the issue: > > "An important role will play how the numerous involved governmental and non-governmental actors understand the nature of the complexity of the Internet Governance Eco-System. Already the terminology "Internet Governance Eco-System" signals that the Internet is not just "another policy issue" which — after the revelations of Edward Snowden — has been pushed now for policy decision makers from "low priority" to "high priority". The problem is much more complex. > > The Internet is not a "single issue" which needs to be regulated in one way or another. The Internet, as it has evolved over half of a century, has penetrated all areas of the political, economic, cultural and social life around the globe. It constitutes more and more the environment in which individuals and institutions do live and learn, do their business, buy and sell, make love and fun and have all kind of individual or collective activities. The Internet Governance Eco-System constitutes to a high degree the virtual environment of the 21st century. Life without the Internet is meanwhile unthinkable for the young generation which are the decision makers of tomorrow. From the 20th century we know about the consequences of the pollution of our natural environment. The lesson learned from those disasters is that we should be very careful with all kinds of pollutions and keep our real and virtual environment as healthy as possible. > > The Internet Governance Eco-System can be compared a little bit to the rainforest. In the rainforest an uncountable number of diverse plants and animals live together in a very complex system. In the "virtual rainforest" we have also an endless and growing diversity of networks, services, applications, regimes and other properties which co-exist in a mutual interdependent mechanism of communication, coordination and collaboration. One thing which can be learnt is that the rainforest as a whole is not managable. It can be neither governed nor controlled, but it can be damaged and destroyed. In the Internet Governance Eco-System many players with very different legal status operate on many different layers, on local, national, regional and international levels, driven by technical innovation, user needs, market opportunities and political interests. > Good Question Keith, > > > As a result we see a very dynamic process where — from a political-legal perspective — a broad variety of different regulatory, co-regulatory or self-regulatory regimes emerge, co-exist and complement or conflict each other. The system as a whole is decentralized, diversified and has no central authority. However, within the various subsystems there is an incredible broad variety of different sub-mechanisms which range from hierarchical structures under single or inter-governmental control to non-hierarchical networks based on self-regulatory mechanisms by non-governmental groups with a wide range of co-regulatory arrangements in between where affected and concerned stakeholders from governments, private sector, civil society and technical community are working hand in hand. > > There is no "one size fits all" solution. The specific form of each sub-system has to be designed according to the very specific needs and nature of the individual issue. In such a mechanism, traditional national legislation and intergovernmental agreements continue to play a role but have to be embedded into the broader multistakeholder environment while new emerging mechanisms have to take note and recognize existing frameworks and regulations on various levels. The "do-not-harm" principle becomes more important than ever. It means that whatever a governmental or non-governmental player will do in the Internet has to take into consideration its direct or indirect consequences for not involved third parties as well as the unintended side-effects for the system as a whole. > > Such a competitive coexistence of rather different regimes and mechanisms creates opportunities but has also risks. There are incredible opportunities for new mechanisms, platforms and services to bring more dynamic into political strategies, social actions and market developments. This competitive coexistence can stimulate innovation, promote job creation, enlarge all kinds of cultural activities and broaden the use of individual freedoms by the public at large both in developed and developing nations. But there is also a risk that differences between regimes and systems create controversies and produce heavy conflicts which includes the threat to turn down innovation, hamper sustainable development, to reduce individual freedoms and to pollute the Internet Governance Eco-System in a way that parts of it will be damaged or destroyed. > > The challenge is to find flexible mechanisms for enhanced communication, coordination as well as formal and informal collaboration among the various players at the different layers to allow that all stakeholders can play their respective role on an equal footing without discrimination in an open and transparent mechanism. Among the key principles for such an enhanced cooperation are, inter alia, mutual respect and recognition of the role of other stakeholders, legitimacy, checks and balances in a workable and recognized accountability system, early engagement and others. > > http://www.circleid.com/posts/20131231_internet_governance_outlook_2014_good_news_bad_news_no_news/ > > Does this means the ICANN "breakthroughs" of having Brazil and India > pledging allegiance to multistakeholderism is now meaningless, as the > heads of state of BRICS have reaffirmed their commitment to multilateralism? > > Cheers > > Keith > > On 10/07/2015 5:42 a.m., "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> the heads of states of the five BRICS Countries have just finished their summit in the Russian City of Ufa. >> >> They adopted a 50 pages declaration which includes (as the Forteleza Declaration in Brazil in 2014) also two long paragraphs related to Internet. There are more good than bad news in the document. And pobably one have to read the document by recognizing what is NOT in the adopted language: There is only little use of terminology like "Internet Governance" or "multistakeholderism". They do not mention ICANN or IANA or the IGF or the NetMundial conference. The used terminology is "ICT", the main subject is "security". >> >> The key Internet paras 33.4 - 33.6 say: >> >> 33.4 We consider that the Internet is a global resource and that states should participate on equal footing in its evaluation and funtioning, taking into account the need to involve relevant stakeholders in their respective roles and responsibilities." And they add in the sama para: "We are in favour of an open, non-fragmented and secure Internet. We uphold the roles and responsibilities of national governments in regard to regulation anf security of the ntwork." >> >> 33.5 acknolwledges the need "to promote, among others, the principles of multilateralism, democracy, transparency and mutual trust and stand for the universally agreed rules of conduct with regard to the network. It is necessary to ensure that the UN plays a fascilitating role in setting up international policies pertaining to the Internet. >> >> 33.5 We support the evolution of the Internet governance ecosystem, which should be based on an open and democratic process, free from the influence of any unilateral considerations." >> >> The other para 35 deals mainly with security questions. In 35.1 the heads of state recognize "the need for a universal regulatory binding instrument on combating the criminal use of ICTs under the UN auspieces. >> >> In 35.2 they reaffirm the "key role of the UN" in adressing Internet related security issues. >> >> The have also re-established the BRICS Working Group of experts on security in the use of ICTs. This Group will enhance cooperation among BRICS countries, including collaboration among existing CSIRTS. >> >> Would be good to know why they did not mention IANA Transition, IGF and WSIS 10+ >> >> Wolfgang >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- ----------------------------------------- Anriette Esterhuysen Executive Director Association for Progressive Communications anriette at apc.org www.apc.org IM: ae_apc -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 11:50:35 2015 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:50:35 +0000 Subject: [governance] BRICS In-Reply-To: <55A3D52C.4070902@apc.org> References: <00b801d0ba45$e2b18960$a8149c20$@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E52@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <55A3ADCD.9010504@internetnz.net.nz> <55A3D52C.4070902@apc.org> Message-ID: +++1 With my special highlights (snippets) as follows: On Jul 13, 2015 3:12 PM, "Anriette Esterhuysen" wrote: > > > commitment to multistakeholder processes and multilateralism should not > be seen as mutually exclusive. > What is also interesting is that they specify that equal footing is > among governments. This is a longstanding demand and it is one that will > not go away. They are making the legitimate demand in my view that a > 'global resource' be developed and managed in a global way, with all > governments having equal voice. Nongovernmental actors should not be > intimidated by this. Whether more equal footing among 'old empire' and > 'new empire' will be good for a fair and open internet and inclusive > internet governance is the real question. > > But assuming that the existing status quo is necessarily better for > nongovernmental stakeholder participation just because Europe/US are so > much more explicit about their support for multistakeholderism is not > enough. > That they say the the UN should play a "facilitating role in setting up > international policies pertaining to the Internet" is not a bad thing > and could be interpreted as including the IGF. I think this is far, far > better than the previous CIRP proposal of the UN setting a new body to > make internet policy which was simply not feasible in my view and would > have produced a bottleneck stopping progress such as what we have seen > in, for example, the Human Rights Council. > > In practice the UN is already facilitating several internet-related > policies, e.g. the Human Rights Council's resolutions on internet > freedom of expression and the General Assembly resolution on privacy. > I think it simply means that they are not letting go of wanting a more > equal distribution of power and influence over internet policy and > regulation among governments. > > And, a secondary layer to this is of course having a more equal > distribution of opportunity for internet-related business and industry. > > Anriette > > > On 13/07/2015 14:23, Keith Davidson wrote: > > Does this means the ICANN "breakthroughs" of having Brazil and India > > pledging allegiance to multistakeholderism is now meaningless, as the > > heads of state of BRICS have reaffirmed their commitment to > > multilateralism? > > > > Cheers > > > > Keith > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 12:31:18 2015 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:31:18 +0000 Subject: [governance] BRICS In-Reply-To: <55A3DC65.5060608@apc.org> References: <00b801d0ba45$e2b18960$a8149c20$@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E52@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <55A3ADCD.9010504@internetnz.net.nz> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29EAD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <55A3DC65.5060608@apc.org> Message-ID: Yes, being hung up on the "equal footing" as an end in itself may also be kind of ideological. That governments want equal footing among themselves when they come together to address a set of issues (or when they are all legitimately concerned by such issues) is largely understandable, as they are formally similar organizations/entities. In the context of a global multistakeholderism, particularly in relation to public policy, what is most important for other stakeholders of a different form such as CS is to make sure their views and contributions are taken seriously, given due consideration and factored into the decision making process. Now, I'm sure there are various ways to achieve this depending on the setting and ultimately who can sway the decisions to be made, from the hard to the soft end of the arrangements spectrum (to use Wolfgang's terminology in this setting), even when CS* is not sitting directly at the table. It's just a practice that needs to be established, enshrined (and WSIS itself has enabled that in a typically intergovernmental process -- a summit); we may just need to be a little more imaginative about it going forward. * Not to mention that CS itself is not a unitary entity, certainly not at global level, and the way it and its decision making are structured also plays a role here. Regards, Mawaki /Brought to you by my droid agent Our messages crossed Wolfgang. I think we are in general agreement. As civil society what we need is a clear vision of what we want internet governance to look like - and we need to demand that consistently from all governments, both in multilateral contexts and in the multistakeholder space, and in all regions and from all blocs. Anriette On 13/07/2015 16:26, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: > Keith: > Does this means the ICANN "breakthroughs" of having Brazil and India pledging allegiance to multistakeholderism is now meaningless, as the heads of state of BRICS have reaffirmed their commitment to multilateralism? > > Good question Keith, > > my understanding was always that the "multilateralists" vs."multistakeholderists" battle is a purely ideological battle and does not match the reality. > > The reality is that the intergovernmental treaty system (which is based on the Vienne Convention of the Law of Treaties) will not disappear the next 100 years. And we will have also in the Internet world multilateral treaties where governments agree among themselvs (in a legally binding form) about rights, duties and responsibilities. Take the Budapest Cybercrime Convention which is ratfied by states which support the multistakeholder approach (and which is not ratified by governments which support the multilateral approach). > > But on top of legally binding hard law treaties there will be more and more soft law instruments or other arrangements. In many areas where we have global problems, governments are and will be unable to agree. States/government have different ideas, interests and objectives and do not want to agree if it comes to issues where they see national interests and national sovereignty at stake. But the system of international relations is much broader and more complex then bi- or multilateral legally binding relationships among governments. > > Insofar the multistakeholder approach allows to find more flexible arrangements which can produce even more stability than legally binding treaties (which can be also ignored when governments change their mind or the circumstances are changing/ clausular rebus sic stantibus) because such multistakeholder arrangements pull non-governmental stakeholders into a mechanism where those groups from the private sector, the technical community or even civil society take committments to themselves to follow certain principles, norms or programms (as described in the WGIG Definition). > > Such an approach does not exclude intergovernmental arrangements. They are and will continue to be a part of the broader picture. The language I use is that today "the multilateral system is "embedded" into a multistakeholder environment". So it is not "either-or". You can have both. This are two different layers. And BTW, the Indian minister in BA used the language "multistakeholder and multilayer" mechanism which is correct in my eyes. > > With regard to the BRICS: There is the draft convention by the Shanghai Group in the 1st Committee of the UNGA. I expect that it is rather unrealistic that this draft gets universal acceptance. Some elements are reflected now in the new report of the Group of Governmental Experts, which will be published early August and discussed by the UNGA in October. The Ufa Declaration tries to keep the door open. India, Brazil, even China can continue with a "double strategy". But this is part of the political cat and mouse game. The "Ufa Declaration" does not mention anymore a "regional cybersecurity treaty" (as it was considered by some Russian experts). The member states of the African Union have negotiated a regional cybersecurity treaty. So one scenario could be to have three (or four or five) regional multilateral cybersecurity treaties. This is probably gone. A good move. The reality is that we probably will continue with a situation where the 50+ member states of the Budapest Conventio n invite the non-member states to sign and ratify the Budapest Convention and the other governments (including the BRICS countries) propose to have a new convention under the auspices of the UN. Difficult to make any forcast how this will be played out. > > > Here is an excerpt from a previous article I wrote to the issue: > > "An important role will play how the numerous involved governmental and non-governmental actors understand the nature of the complexity of the Internet Governance Eco-System. Already the terminology "Internet Governance Eco-System" signals that the Internet is not just "another policy issue" which — after the revelations of Edward Snowden — has been pushed now for policy decision makers from "low priority" to "high priority". The problem is much more complex. > > The Internet is not a "single issue" which needs to be regulated in one way or another. The Internet, as it has evolved over half of a century, has penetrated all areas of the political, economic, cultural and social life around the globe. It constitutes more and more the environment in which individuals and institutions do live and learn, do their business, buy and sell, make love and fun and have all kind of individual or collective activities. The Internet Governance Eco-System constitutes to a high degree the virtual environment of the 21st century. Life without the Internet is meanwhile unthinkable for the young generation which are the decision makers of tomorrow. From the 20th century we know about the consequences of the pollution of our natural environment. The lesson learned from those disasters is that we should be very careful with all kinds of pollutions and keep our real and virtual environment as healthy as possible. > > The Internet Governance Eco-System can be compared a little bit to the rainforest. In the rainforest an uncountable number of diverse plants and animals live together in a very complex system. In the "virtual rainforest" we have also an endless and growing diversity of networks, services, applications, regimes and other properties which co-exist in a mutual interdependent mechanism of communication, coordination and collaboration. One thing which can be learnt is that the rainforest as a whole is not managable. It can be neither governed nor controlled, but it can be damaged and destroyed. In the Internet Governance Eco-System many players with very different legal status operate on many different layers, on local, national, regional and international levels, driven by technical innovation, user needs, market opportunities and political interests. > Good Question Keith, > > > As a result we see a very dynamic process where — from a political-legal perspective — a broad variety of different regulatory, co-regulatory or self-regulatory regimes emerge, co-exist and complement or conflict each other. The system as a whole is decentralized, diversified and has no central authority. However, within the various subsystems there is an incredible broad variety of different sub-mechanisms which range from hierarchical structures under single or inter-governmental control to non-hierarchical networks based on self-regulatory mechanisms by non-governmental groups with a wide range of co-regulatory arrangements in between where affected and concerned stakeholders from governments, private sector, civil society and technical community are working hand in hand. > > There is no "one size fits all" solution. The specific form of each sub-system has to be designed according to the very specific needs and nature of the individual issue. In such a mechanism, traditional national legislation and intergovernmental agreements continue to play a role but have to be embedded into the broader multistakeholder environment while new emerging mechanisms have to take note and recognize existing frameworks and regulations on various levels. The "do-not-harm" principle becomes more important than ever. It means that whatever a governmental or non-governmental player will do in the Internet has to take into consideration its direct or indirect consequences for not involved third parties as well as the unintended side-effects for the system as a whole. > > Such a competitive coexistence of rather different regimes and mechanisms creates opportunities but has also risks. There are incredible opportunities for new mechanisms, platforms and services to bring more dynamic into political strategies, social actions and market developments. This competitive coexistence can stimulate innovation, promote job creation, enlarge all kinds of cultural activities and broaden the use of individual freedoms by the public at large both in developed and developing nations. But there is also a risk that differences between regimes and systems create controversies and produce heavy conflicts which includes the threat to turn down innovation, hamper sustainable development, to reduce individual freedoms and to pollute the Internet Governance Eco-System in a way that parts of it will be damaged or destroyed. > > The challenge is to find flexible mechanisms for enhanced communication, coordination as well as formal and informal collaboration among the various players at the different layers to allow that all stakeholders can play their respective role on an equal footing without discrimination in an open and transparent mechanism. Among the key principles for such an enhanced cooperation are, inter alia, mutual respect and recognition of the role of other stakeholders, legitimacy, checks and balances in a workable and recognized accountability system, early engagement and others. > > http://www.circleid.com/posts/20131231_internet_governance_outlook_2014_good_news_bad_news_no_news/ > > Does this means the ICANN "breakthroughs" of having Brazil and India > pledging allegiance to multistakeholderism is now meaningless, as the > heads of state of BRICS have reaffirmed their commitment to multilateralism? > > Cheers > > Keith > > On 10/07/2015 5:42 a.m., "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> the heads of states of the five BRICS Countries have just finished their summit in the Russian City of Ufa. >> >> They adopted a 50 pages declaration which includes (as the Forteleza Declaration in Brazil in 2014) also two long paragraphs related to Internet. There are more good than bad news in the document. And pobably one have to read the document by recognizing what is NOT in the adopted language: There is only little use of terminology like "Internet Governance" or "multistakeholderism". They do not mention ICANN or IANA or the IGF or the NetMundial conference. The used terminology is "ICT", the main subject is "security". >> >> The key Internet paras 33.4 - 33.6 say: >> >> 33.4 We consider that the Internet is a global resource and that states should participate on equal footing in its evaluation and funtioning, taking into account the need to involve relevant stakeholders in their respective roles and responsibilities." And they add in the sama para: "We are in favour of an open, non-fragmented and secure Internet. We uphold the roles and responsibilities of national governments in regard to regulation anf security of the ntwork." >> >> 33.5 acknolwledges the need "to promote, among others, the principles of multilateralism, democracy, transparency and mutual trust and stand for the universally agreed rules of conduct with regard to the network. It is necessary to ensure that the UN plays a fascilitating role in setting up international policies pertaining to the Internet. >> >> 33.5 We support the evolution of the Internet governance ecosystem, which should be based on an open and democratic process, free from the influence of any unilateral considerations." >> >> The other para 35 deals mainly with security questions. In 35.1 the heads of state recognize "the need for a universal regulatory binding instrument on combating the criminal use of ICTs under the UN auspieces. >> >> In 35.2 they reaffirm the "key role of the UN" in adressing Internet related security issues. >> >> The have also re-established the BRICS Working Group of experts on security in the use of ICTs. This Group will enhance cooperation among BRICS countries, including collaboration among existing CSIRTS. >> >> Would be good to know why they did not mention IANA Transition, IGF and WSIS 10+ >> >> Wolfgang >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- ----------------------------------------- Anriette Esterhuysen Executive Director Association for Progressive Communications anriette at apc.org www.apc.org IM: ae_apc ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From sana.pryhod at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 13:32:17 2015 From: sana.pryhod at gmail.com (Oksana Prykhodko) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 20:32:17 +0300 Subject: [governance] BRICS In-Reply-To: References: <00b801d0ba45$e2b18960$a8149c20$@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E52@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <55A3ADCD.9010504@internetnz.net.nz> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29EAD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <55A3DC65.5060608@apc.org> Message-ID: Dear all, Just my two cents both from Ukraine and Russian speaking world. Are you sure that there is a difference between "multilateral" and "multistakeholder" in Russian/other Cyrillic languages? Are you interested in army of Gongos (ngos, created by govs) or Bingos (ngos, created by business)? BTW, any contribution from business of our region? Best regards, Oksana On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > Yes, being hung up on the "equal footing" as an end in itself may also be > kind of ideological. That governments want equal footing among themselves > when they come together to address a set of issues (or when they are all > legitimately concerned by such issues) is largely understandable, as they > are formally similar organizations/entities. > > In the context of a global multistakeholderism, particularly in relation > to public policy, what is most important for other stakeholders of a > different form such as CS is to make sure their views and contributions are > taken seriously, given due consideration and factored into the decision > making process. Now, I'm sure there are various ways to achieve this > depending on the setting and ultimately who can sway the decisions to be > made, from the hard to the soft end of the arrangements spectrum (to use > Wolfgang's terminology in this setting), even when CS* is not sitting > directly at the table. It's just a practice that needs to be established, > enshrined (and WSIS itself has enabled that in a typically > intergovernmental process -- a summit); we may just need to be a little > more imaginative about it going forward. > > * Not to mention that CS itself is not a unitary entity, certainly not at > global level, and the way it and its decision making are structured also > plays a role here. > > Regards, > > Mawaki > /Brought to you by my droid agent > Our messages crossed Wolfgang. I think we are in general agreement. As > civil society what we need is a clear vision of what we want internet > governance to look like - and we need to demand that consistently from > all governments, both in multilateral contexts and in the > multistakeholder space, and in all regions and from all blocs. > > Anriette > > On 13/07/2015 16:26, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: > > Keith: > > Does this means the ICANN "breakthroughs" of having Brazil and India > pledging allegiance to multistakeholderism is now meaningless, as the heads > of state of BRICS have reaffirmed their commitment to multilateralism? > > > > Good question Keith, > > > > my understanding was always that the "multilateralists" > vs."multistakeholderists" battle is a purely ideological battle and does > not match the reality. > > > > The reality is that the intergovernmental treaty system (which is based > on the Vienne Convention of the Law of Treaties) will not disappear the > next 100 years. And we will have also in the Internet world multilateral > treaties where governments agree among themselvs (in a legally binding > form) about rights, duties and responsibilities. Take the Budapest > Cybercrime Convention which is ratfied by states which support the > multistakeholder approach (and which is not ratified by governments which > support the multilateral approach). > > > > But on top of legally binding hard law treaties there will be more and > more soft law instruments or other arrangements. In many areas where we > have global problems, governments are and will be unable to agree. > States/government have different ideas, interests and objectives and do not > want to agree if it comes to issues where they see national interests and > national sovereignty at stake. But the system of international relations is > much broader and more complex then bi- or multilateral legally binding > relationships among governments. > > > > Insofar the multistakeholder approach allows to find more flexible > arrangements which can produce even more stability than legally binding > treaties (which can be also ignored when governments change their mind or > the circumstances are changing/ clausular rebus sic stantibus) because such > multistakeholder arrangements pull non-governmental stakeholders into a > mechanism where those groups from the private sector, the technical > community or even civil society take committments to themselves to follow > certain principles, norms or programms (as described in the WGIG > Definition). > > > > Such an approach does not exclude intergovernmental arrangements. They > are and will continue to be a part of the broader picture. The language I > use is that today "the multilateral system is "embedded" into a > multistakeholder environment". So it is not "either-or". You can have both. > This are two different layers. And BTW, the Indian minister in BA used the > language "multistakeholder and multilayer" mechanism which is correct in my > eyes. > > > > With regard to the BRICS: There is the draft convention by the Shanghai > Group in the 1st Committee of the UNGA. I expect that it is rather > unrealistic that this draft gets universal acceptance. Some elements are > reflected now in the new report of the Group of Governmental Experts, which > will be published early August and discussed by the UNGA in October. The > Ufa Declaration tries to keep the door open. India, Brazil, even China can > continue with a "double strategy". But this is part of the political cat > and mouse game. The "Ufa Declaration" does not mention anymore a "regional > cybersecurity treaty" (as it was considered by some Russian experts). The > member states of the African Union have negotiated a regional cybersecurity > treaty. So one scenario could be to have three (or four or five) regional > multilateral cybersecurity treaties. This is probably gone. A good move. > The reality is that we probably will continue with a situation where the > 50+ member states of the Budapest > Conventio > n invite the non-member states to sign and ratify the Budapest Convention > and the other governments (including the BRICS countries) propose to have a > new convention under the auspices of the UN. Difficult to make any forcast > how this will be played out. > > > > > > Here is an excerpt from a previous article I wrote to the issue: > > > > "An important role will play how the numerous involved governmental and > non-governmental actors understand the nature of the complexity of the > Internet Governance Eco-System. Already the terminology "Internet > Governance Eco-System" signals that the Internet is not just "another > policy issue" which — after the revelations of Edward Snowden — has been > pushed now for policy decision makers from "low priority" to "high > priority". The problem is much more complex. > > > > The Internet is not a "single issue" which needs to be regulated in one > way or another. The Internet, as it has evolved over half of a century, has > penetrated all areas of the political, economic, cultural and social life > around the globe. It constitutes more and more the environment in which > individuals and institutions do live and learn, do their business, buy and > sell, make love and fun and have all kind of individual or collective > activities. The Internet Governance Eco-System constitutes to a high degree > the virtual environment of the 21st century. Life without the Internet is > meanwhile unthinkable for the young generation which are the decision > makers of tomorrow. From the 20th century we know about the consequences of > the pollution of our natural environment. The lesson learned from those > disasters is that we should be very careful with all kinds of pollutions > and keep our real and virtual environment as healthy as possible. > > > > The Internet Governance Eco-System can be compared a little bit to the > rainforest. In the rainforest an uncountable number of diverse plants and > animals live together in a very complex system. In the "virtual rainforest" > we have also an endless and growing diversity of networks, services, > applications, regimes and other properties which co-exist in a mutual > interdependent mechanism of communication, coordination and collaboration. > One thing which can be learnt is that the rainforest as a whole is not > managable. It can be neither governed nor controlled, but it can be damaged > and destroyed. In the Internet Governance Eco-System many players with very > different legal status operate on many different layers, on local, > national, regional and international levels, driven by technical > innovation, user needs, market opportunities and political interests. > > Good Question Keith, > > > > > > As a result we see a very dynamic process where — from a political-legal > perspective — a broad variety of different regulatory, co-regulatory or > self-regulatory regimes emerge, co-exist and complement or conflict each > other. The system as a whole is decentralized, diversified and has no > central authority. However, within the various subsystems there is an > incredible broad variety of different sub-mechanisms which range from > hierarchical structures under single or inter-governmental control to > non-hierarchical networks based on self-regulatory mechanisms by > non-governmental groups with a wide range of co-regulatory arrangements in > between where affected and concerned stakeholders from governments, private > sector, civil society and technical community are working hand in hand. > > > > There is no "one size fits all" solution. The specific form of each > sub-system has to be designed according to the very specific needs and > nature of the individual issue. In such a mechanism, traditional national > legislation and intergovernmental agreements continue to play a role but > have to be embedded into the broader multistakeholder environment while new > emerging mechanisms have to take note and recognize existing frameworks and > regulations on various levels. The "do-not-harm" principle becomes more > important than ever. It means that whatever a governmental or > non-governmental player will do in the Internet has to take into > consideration its direct or indirect consequences for not involved third > parties as well as the unintended side-effects for the system as a whole. > > > > Such a competitive coexistence of rather different regimes and > mechanisms creates opportunities but has also risks. There are incredible > opportunities for new mechanisms, platforms and services to bring more > dynamic into political strategies, social actions and market developments. > This competitive coexistence can stimulate innovation, promote job > creation, enlarge all kinds of cultural activities and broaden the use of > individual freedoms by the public at large both in developed and developing > nations. But there is also a risk that differences between regimes and > systems create controversies and produce heavy conflicts which includes the > threat to turn down innovation, hamper sustainable development, to reduce > individual freedoms and to pollute the Internet Governance Eco-System in a > way that parts of it will be damaged or destroyed. > > > > The challenge is to find flexible mechanisms for enhanced communication, > coordination as well as formal and informal collaboration among the various > players at the different layers to allow that all stakeholders can play > their respective role on an equal footing without discrimination in an open > and transparent mechanism. Among the key principles for such an enhanced > cooperation are, inter alia, mutual respect and recognition of the role of > other stakeholders, legitimacy, checks and balances in a workable and > recognized accountability system, early engagement and others. > > > > > http://www.circleid.com/posts/20131231_internet_governance_outlook_2014_good_news_bad_news_no_news/ > > > > Does this means the ICANN "breakthroughs" of having Brazil and India > > pledging allegiance to multistakeholderism is now meaningless, as the > > heads of state of BRICS have reaffirmed their commitment to > multilateralism? > > > > Cheers > > > > Keith > > > > On 10/07/2015 5:42 a.m., "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> the heads of states of the five BRICS Countries have just finished > their summit in the Russian City of Ufa. > >> > >> They adopted a 50 pages declaration which includes (as the Forteleza > Declaration in Brazil in 2014) also two long paragraphs related to > Internet. There are more good than bad news in the document. And pobably > one have to read the document by recognizing what is NOT in the adopted > language: There is only little use of terminology like "Internet > Governance" or "multistakeholderism". They do not mention ICANN or IANA or > the IGF or the NetMundial conference. The used terminology is "ICT", the > main subject is "security". > >> > >> The key Internet paras 33.4 - 33.6 say: > >> > >> 33.4 We consider that the Internet is a global resource and that states > should participate on equal footing in its evaluation and funtioning, > taking into account the need to involve relevant stakeholders in their > respective roles and responsibilities." And they add in the sama para: "We > are in favour of an open, non-fragmented and secure Internet. We uphold the > roles and responsibilities of national governments in regard to regulation > anf security of the ntwork." > >> > >> 33.5 acknolwledges the need "to promote, among others, the principles > of multilateralism, democracy, transparency and mutual trust and stand for > the universally agreed rules of conduct with regard to the network. It is > necessary to ensure that the UN plays a fascilitating role in setting up > international policies pertaining to the Internet. > >> > >> 33.5 We support the evolution of the Internet governance ecosystem, > which should be based on an open and democratic process, free from the > influence of any unilateral considerations." > >> > >> The other para 35 deals mainly with security questions. In 35.1 the > heads of state recognize "the need for a universal regulatory binding > instrument on combating the criminal use of ICTs under the UN auspieces. > >> > >> In 35.2 they reaffirm the "key role of the UN" in adressing Internet > related security issues. > >> > >> The have also re-established the BRICS Working Group of experts on > security in the use of ICTs. This Group will enhance cooperation among > BRICS countries, including collaboration among existing CSIRTS. > >> > >> Would be good to know why they did not mention IANA Transition, IGF and > WSIS 10+ > >> > >> Wolfgang > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >> To be removed from the list, visit: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >> > >> For all other list information and functions, see: > >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >> > >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------- > Anriette Esterhuysen > Executive Director > Association for Progressive Communications > anriette at apc.org > www.apc.org > IM: ae_apc > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Mon Jul 13 14:36:50 2015 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:36:50 -0300 Subject: [governance] BRICS In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29EAD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <00b801d0ba45$e2b18960$a8149c20$@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E52@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <55A3ADCD.9010504@internetnz.net.nz> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29EAD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <55A40542.8030406@riseup.net> Dear Wolfgang, i like it very much to read your texts. But i know, never i would found a positive perspective. Your perspective. Maybe in the context of InterNet. In the Sao paulo declaration from NMI i feel the same. Also in the Ufa declaration from the BRICS group and her friends. But your example with the rainforest is realy fantastic. We never can manage this. But gtoups can destroy it. And wnat to destroy it. The same we have it with the Internet. Mostly all governments want to destroy it. The self orgnisation of our trnsportsystem for free communication is a great danger. We can show, that we do not need the representative systems. We can show and learn, that we can do it self. In our local and regional communities. And the recognition and realization of those we find in all this unilateral and multilateral declarations. Alsi in the documents of Cgi.br and Netmundial. The job is, to rearrange the requirements for representative systems, the Internet Governance. many greetings, willi Fortaleza, Brasil Am 13/07/2015 um 11:26 schrieb "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang": > Keith: > Does this means the ICANN "breakthroughs" of having Brazil and India pledging allegiance to multistakeholderism is now meaningless, as the heads of state of BRICS have reaffirmed their commitment to multilateralism? > > Good question Keith, > > my understanding was always that the "multilateralists" vs."multistakeholderists" battle is a purely ideological battle and does not match the reality. > > The reality is that the intergovernmental treaty system (which is based on the Vienne Convention of the Law of Treaties) will not disappear the next 100 years. And we will have also in the Internet world multilateral treaties where governments agree among themselvs (in a legally binding form) about rights, duties and responsibilities. Take the Budapest Cybercrime Convention which is ratfied by states which support the multistakeholder approach (and which is not ratified by governments which support the multilateral approach). > > But on top of legally binding hard law treaties there will be more and more soft law instruments or other arrangements. In many areas where we have global problems, governments are and will be unable to agree. States/government have different ideas, interests and objectives and do not want to agree if it comes to issues where they see national interests and national sovereignty at stake. But the system of international relations is much broader and more complex then bi- or multilateral legally binding relationships among governments. > > Insofar the multistakeholder approach allows to find more flexible arrangements which can produce even more stability than legally binding treaties (which can be also ignored when governments change their mind or the circumstances are changing/ clausular rebus sic stantibus) because such multistakeholder arrangements pull non-governmental stakeholders into a mechanism where those groups from the private sector, the technical community or even civil society take committments to themselves to follow certain principles, norms or programms (as described in the WGIG Definition). > > Such an approach does not exclude intergovernmental arrangements. They are and will continue to be a part of the broader picture. The language I use is that today "the multilateral system is "embedded" into a multistakeholder environment". So it is not "either-or". You can have both. This are two different layers. And BTW, the Indian minister in BA used the language "multistakeholder and multilayer" mechanism which is correct in my eyes. > > With regard to the BRICS: There is the draft convention by the Shanghai Group in the 1st Committee of the UNGA. I expect that it is rather unrealistic that this draft gets universal acceptance. Some elements are reflected now in the new report of the Group of Governmental Experts, which will be published early August and discussed by the UNGA in October. The Ufa Declaration tries to keep the door open. India, Brazil, even China can continue with a "double strategy". But this is part of the political cat and mouse game. The "Ufa Declaration" does not mention anymore a "regional cybersecurity treaty" (as it was considered by some Russian experts). The member states of the African Union have negotiated a regional cybersecurity treaty. So one scenario could be to have three (or four or five) regional multilateral cybersecurity treaties. This is probably gone. A good move. The reality is that we probably will continue with a situation where the 50+ member states of the Budapest! Convent ion invite the non-member states to sign and ratify the Budapest Convention and the other governments (including the BRICS countries) propose to have a new convention under the auspices of the UN. Difficult to make any forcast how this will be played out. > > > Here is an excerpt from a previous article I wrote to the issue: > > "An important role will play how the numerous involved governmental and non-governmental actors understand the nature of the complexity of the Internet Governance Eco-System. Already the terminology "Internet Governance Eco-System" signals that the Internet is not just "another policy issue" which — after the revelations of Edward Snowden — has been pushed now for policy decision makers from "low priority" to "high priority". The problem is much more complex. > > The Internet is not a "single issue" which needs to be regulated in one way or another. The Internet, as it has evolved over half of a century, has penetrated all areas of the political, economic, cultural and social life around the globe. It constitutes more and more the environment in which individuals and institutions do live and learn, do their business, buy and sell, make love and fun and have all kind of individual or collective activities. The Internet Governance Eco-System constitutes to a high degree the virtual environment of the 21st century. Life without the Internet is meanwhile unthinkable for the young generation which are the decision makers of tomorrow. From the 20th century we know about the consequences of the pollution of our natural environment. The lesson learned from those disasters is that we should be very careful with all kinds of pollutions and keep our real and virtual environment as healthy as possible. > > The Internet Governance Eco-System can be compared a little bit to the rainforest. In the rainforest an uncountable number of diverse plants and animals live together in a very complex system. In the "virtual rainforest" we have also an endless and growing diversity of networks, services, applications, regimes and other properties which co-exist in a mutual interdependent mechanism of communication, coordination and collaboration. One thing which can be learnt is that the rainforest as a whole is not managable. It can be neither governed nor controlled, but it can be damaged and destroyed. In the Internet Governance Eco-System many players with very different legal status operate on many different layers, on local, national, regional and international levels, driven by technical innovation, user needs, market opportunities and political interests. > Good Question Keith, > > > As a result we see a very dynamic process where — from a political-legal perspective — a broad variety of different regulatory, co-regulatory or self-regulatory regimes emerge, co-exist and complement or conflict each other. The system as a whole is decentralized, diversified and has no central authority. However, within the various subsystems there is an incredible broad variety of different sub-mechanisms which range from hierarchical structures under single or inter-governmental control to non-hierarchical networks based on self-regulatory mechanisms by non-governmental groups with a wide range of co-regulatory arrangements in between where affected and concerned stakeholders from governments, private sector, civil society and technical community are working hand in hand. > > There is no "one size fits all" solution. The specific form of each sub-system has to be designed according to the very specific needs and nature of the individual issue. In such a mechanism, traditional national legislation and intergovernmental agreements continue to play a role but have to be embedded into the broader multistakeholder environment while new emerging mechanisms have to take note and recognize existing frameworks and regulations on various levels. The "do-not-harm" principle becomes more important than ever. It means that whatever a governmental or non-governmental player will do in the Internet has to take into consideration its direct or indirect consequences for not involved third parties as well as the unintended side-effects for the system as a whole. > > Such a competitive coexistence of rather different regimes and mechanisms creates opportunities but has also risks. There are incredible opportunities for new mechanisms, platforms and services to bring more dynamic into political strategies, social actions and market developments. This competitive coexistence can stimulate innovation, promote job creation, enlarge all kinds of cultural activities and broaden the use of individual freedoms by the public at large both in developed and developing nations. But there is also a risk that differences between regimes and systems create controversies and produce heavy conflicts which includes the threat to turn down innovation, hamper sustainable development, to reduce individual freedoms and to pollute the Internet Governance Eco-System in a way that parts of it will be damaged or destroyed. > > The challenge is to find flexible mechanisms for enhanced communication, coordination as well as formal and informal collaboration among the various players at the different layers to allow that all stakeholders can play their respective role on an equal footing without discrimination in an open and transparent mechanism. Among the key principles for such an enhanced cooperation are, inter alia, mutual respect and recognition of the role of other stakeholders, legitimacy, checks and balances in a workable and recognized accountability system, early engagement and others. > > http://www.circleid.com/posts/20131231_internet_governance_outlook_2014_good_news_bad_news_no_news/ > > Does this means the ICANN "breakthroughs" of having Brazil and India > pledging allegiance to multistakeholderism is now meaningless, as the > heads of state of BRICS have reaffirmed their commitment to multilateralism? > > Cheers > > Keith -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Mon Jul 13 14:51:27 2015 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:51:27 -0300 Subject: [governance] BRICS In-Reply-To: References: <00b801d0ba45$e2b18960$a8149c20$@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E52@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <55A3ADCD.9010504@internetnz.net.nz> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29EAD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <55A3DC65.5060608@apc.org> Message-ID: <55A408AF.1080707@riseup.net> Am 13/07/2015 um 13:31 schrieb Mawaki Chango: > Yes, being hung up on the "equal footing" as an end in itself may also be > kind of ideological. That governments want equal footing among themselves > when they come together to address a set of issues (or when they are all > legitimately concerned by such issues) is largely understandable, as they > are formally similar organizations/entities. > > In the context of a global multistakeholderism, particularly in relation to > public policy, what is most important for other stakeholders of a different > form such as CS is to make sure their views and contributions are taken > seriously, given due consideration and factored into the decision making > process. Now, I'm sure there are various ways to achieve this depending on > the setting and ultimately who can sway the decisions to be made, from the > hard to the soft end of the arrangements spectrum (to use Wolfgang's > terminology in this setting), even when CS* is not sitting directly at the > table. It's just a practice that needs to be established, enshrined (and > WSIS itself has enabled that in a typically intergovernmental process -- a > summit); we may just need to be a little more imaginative about it going > forward. Dear Mawaki, i am sure. that you know, what you write. But why you construct such antagonism between your 1. and 2. paragraph? The "power" groups like governments and privat enterprises never like to have an overview about the basic needs for the different "stakeholder" groups. And you know it. And in the Netmundial declaration we can see it, that all this different positions are lost. We should not make an illusion about the working intentions. We have to understand the interests, the existential basis, the root of her activities. Then we understand all this theater. many greetings, willi Fortaleza, Brasil -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 15:43:13 2015 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 19:43:13 +0000 Subject: [governance] BRICS In-Reply-To: <55A408AF.1080707@riseup.net> References: <00b801d0ba45$e2b18960$a8149c20$@gmail.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E52@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29E53@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <55A3ADCD.9010504@internetnz.net.nz> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A29EAD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <55A3DC65.5060608@apc.org> <55A408AF.1080707@riseup.net> Message-ID: Dear Willi, Thanks. I am not sure I see what you're referring to as antgonism between my two paragraphs. However regaring the overall content of your message I would like to clarify that I didn't mean to claim that CS would reach its goals without having to fight, or will have its views effectively taken into account without struggles. The outcome of a multistakeholder or a multilateral process will be necessarily different from that of a monostakeholder or a unilateral process, respectively. Then the question for us is not how we can get an outcome that will fully meet our monostakeholder desiderata but rather an outcome that will be farthest possible from the other stakeholders' peculiar desiderata/agenda and closest possible to ours. But of course the notion of possibility here will be dependent on power structure, meaning there will have to be fights and struggles. Then my own take (which we don't all have to agree on) is that our energy is better spent devising ways to build strategic alliances issue area by issue area so as to advance CS friendly agenda than worrying about what some governments say about or want from other governments (or things of that kind). Idem for businesses. Noting that not all governments of the world, nor businesses, necessarily have the same interests on all the issues. Regards, Mawaki /Brought to you by my droid agent On Jul 13, 2015 6:51 PM, "willi uebelherr" wrote: > Am 13/07/2015 um 13:31 schrieb Mawaki Chango: > >> Yes, being hung up on the "equal footing" as an end in itself may also be >> kind of ideological. That governments want equal footing among themselves >> when they come together to address a set of issues (or when they are all >> legitimately concerned by such issues) is largely understandable, as they >> are formally similar organizations/entities. >> >> In the context of a global multistakeholderism, particularly in relation >> to >> public policy, what is most important for other stakeholders of a >> different >> form such as CS is to make sure their views and contributions are taken >> seriously, given due consideration and factored into the decision making >> process. Now, I'm sure there are various ways to achieve this depending on >> the setting and ultimately who can sway the decisions to be made, from the >> hard to the soft end of the arrangements spectrum (to use Wolfgang's >> terminology in this setting), even when CS* is not sitting directly at the >> table. It's just a practice that needs to be established, enshrined (and >> WSIS itself has enabled that in a typically intergovernmental process -- a >> summit); we may just need to be a little more imaginative about it going >> forward. >> > > Dear Mawaki, > > i am sure. that you know, what you write. But why you construct such > antagonism between your 1. and 2. paragraph? The "power" groups like > governments and privat enterprises never like to have an overview about the > basic needs for the different "stakeholder" groups. And you know it. And in > the Netmundial declaration we can see it, that all this different positions > are lost. > > We should not make an illusion about the working intentions. We have to > understand the interests, the existential basis, the root of her > activities. Then we understand all this theater. > > many greetings, willi > Fortaleza, Brasil > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The investigation of embedded systems applying advanced signal processing techniques can improve system performance. Therefore, embedded systems with real-time signal processing are becoming more and more important for multimedia applications for both academia and industry. Although embedded systems play an important role, many challenging issues remain to be resolved. Research on embedded systems with real-time signal processing demands an essentially multi-disciplinary approach, exploiting ideas from areas as diverse as signal processing techniques, computational intelligence and embedded system design. To accomplish its real-time performance, trade-off analysis is needed during the actual applications. In this special issue, we intend to bring together researchers in the related fields to demonstrate the latest developments and solutions regarding various aspects of real-time signal processing tools in embedded systems. This special issue is destined to solve the embedded system issues between the theory and practice of signal processing to real time applications. We invite investigators to contribute original research articles as well as review articles that will stimulate the continuing efforts to understand the real-time signal processing for embedded systems. Potential topics include, but are not limited to: - Real-time digital images & watermarking - Modeling of multimedia systems - Secure and Privacy-aware Image Processing - Real-time signal compression and analysis - Multimedia systems design methodologies and case studies - Multimedia processors and reconfigurable architectures - Spatial and temporal estimation and protection of media streams - Learning systems for signal and information processing and evidential reasoning for recognition - Soft computing approaches for embedded multimedia systems - Software optimization and compiler techniques - Real time signal processing & vision - Expert system for embedded system - Color and illumination processing ** Submission Information Submissions must not substantially overlap papers that have been published or that are simultaneously submitted to a journal or conference/workshop with proceedings. 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An increasing number of organizations implement their business processes and applications via runtime composition of services made available in the Cloud by external suppliers. This scenario is changing the traditional view of security introducing new service security risks and threats, and requires re-thinking of current assurance, development, testing, and verification methodologies. In particular, security assurance in the cloud is becoming a pressing need to increase the confidence of the cloud actors that the cloud and its services are behaving as expected, and requires novel approaches addressing SOA and cloud peculiarities. IWSAC 2015 is the third edition of the International Workshop on Security Assurance in the Cloud. It aims to address the security assurance issues related to the deployment of services in the Cloud, along with evaluating their impact on traditional security solutions for software and network systems. The workshop seeks submissions from academia and industry presenting novel research on all theoretical and practical aspects of security and assurance of services implemented in the Cloud, as well as experimental studies in Cloud infrastructures, the implementation of services, and lessons learned. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: * Accountability in the cloud * Authentication and access control in the cloud * Challenges in moving critical systems to the cloud * Cloud audit, certification, and compliance * Cloud transparency, introspection, and outrospection * Data security and privacy in the Cloud * Evidence-based assurance of cloud services * Information assurance and trust management * Intrusion detection in the cloud * Policy compliance * Security assurance in the cloud * Security and assurance protocols in the cloud * Security and privacy in the cloud * Service level agreements * Service procurement in the cloud * Verification of cloud services IMPORTANT DATES Paper submission due: September 7, 2015 (11:59 PM American Samoa time) Notification to authors: October 7, 2015 Camera-ready due: October 15, 2015 Registration due: October 19, 2015 SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS Submissions must not substantially overlap papers that have been published or that are simultaneously submitted to a journal or conference/workshop with proceedings. Each submission should be at most 8 pages in total including bibliography and well-marked appendices, and must follow the IEEE double columns publication format available at - [Microsoft Word DOC] ftp://pubftp.computer.org/Press/Outgoing/proceedings/instructA4x2.doc - [LaTex Formatting Macros] ftp://pubftp.computer.org/Press/Outgoing/proceedings/IEEE_CS_LatexA4x2.zip A maximum of 2 extra pages can be purchased for the final version of the accepted papers. Submissions are to be made to the submission web site https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=sitis2015 by selecting track "Workshop on Security Assurance in the Cloud". Only pdf files will be accepted. Submissions not meeting these guidelines risk rejection without consideration of their merits. Authors of accepted papers must guarantee that their papers will be presented at the workshop. At least one author of each accepted paper is required to register with the main conference and present the paper. Accepted papers at the workshop will be published in the conference proceedings and in the IEEE digital library. IWSAC 2015 COMMITTEES AND CHAIRS Program Chairs * Claudio A. Ardagna, Universita' degli Studi di Milano, Italy * Ernesto Damiani, ETISALAT BT Innovation Center, Khalifa University, UAE * Massimo Felici, HP Labs, UK Publicity Chair * Fulvio Frati, Universita' degli Studi di Milano, Italy Program Committee TO BE COMPLETED * Marco Anisetti, Universita' degli Studi di Milano, Italy * Michele Bezzi, SAP, France * Valentina Casola, University of Naples Federico II, Italy * Mauro Conti, University of Padua, Italy * Nora Cuppens-Boulahia, Telecom Bretagne, France * Alessandra De Benedictis, University of Naples Federico II, Italy * Eduardo Fernandez, Florida Atlantic University, USA * William Fitzgerald, UTRC, Ireland * Filippo Gaudenzi, Università degli studi di Milano, Italy * Nils Gruschka, NEC Laboratories Europe, Germany * Meiko Jensen, Southern Denmark University, Denmark * Mathias Kohler, SAP, Germany * Jesus Luna, Cloud Security Alliance, UK * Antonio Mana, Universidad de Malaga, Spain * Siani Pearson, HP Labs, UK * Julinda Stefa, Sapienza University, Italy This call for papers and additional information about the conference can be found at http://sesar.di.unimi.it/IWSAC2015 **************** Per destinare il 5x1000 all'Universita' degli Studi di Milano: indicare nella dichiarazione dei redditi il codice fiscale 80012650158. http://www.unimi.it/13084.htm?utm_source=firmaMail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=linkFirmaEmail&utm_campaign=5xmille -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 20:48:28 2015 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 17:48:28 -0700 Subject: [governance] Development finance talks in Ethiopia close to collapse: charities Message-ID: <051b01d0bf61$233d3090$69b791b0$@gmail.com> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/15/us-development-goals-finance-idUSKCN0PP28320150715?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews World | Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:59pm EDT Related: World, United Nations Development finance talks in Ethiopia close to collapse: charities By Katy Migiro ADDIS ABABA (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Talks between rich and poor countries in the Ethiopian capital, aimed at agreeing on the financing of the United Nations' bold new global development agenda, are on the brink of collapse, advocacy groups said on Wednesday. The G77 developing countries want the final document, due to be signed when the Financing For Development (FfD) conference closes on Thursday, to include the creation of a new U.N. tax body which they hope would set new global rules to stop tax dodging. The proposal is fiercely opposed by the rich members of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), which drew up the current tax rules. "Negotiations are on the brink of collapse," the European Network on Debt and Development said in a statement. "Rich country governments led by the U.S., the U.K. and Japan are jeopardizing the entire FfD agreement as they refuse to consider an inter-governmental tax body." Nearly $1 trillion in illicit finance - the fruits of tax evasion, crime and corruption - is estimated to leave poor countries each year, according to Global Financial Integrity, a policy research group. The G77 wants the current U.N. tax committee to be upgraded to a political body with more power and money and universal membership. A compromise proposal put forward by South Africa and the host nation, Ethiopia, was rejected on Wednesday morning, charities said. A draft of the proposal, seen by the Thomson Reuters Foundation, said the two nations invited the U.N. Economic and Social Council, to which the current U.N. tax committee reports, to finales proposals for upgrading it to "a universal body with equitable participation of developing countries" by 2016. The OECD said in a statement that it had supported inclusive processes. Its "Base Erosion and Profit Shifting" reform initiative, due to be finalised in November, includes 60 countries - the 34 OECD members plus G20 nations and 20 developing countries representing geographical regions, it said. "The discussion should not be about one body or another body‎, but rather making sure that it works for everybody," OECD Secretary-General Angel Gurría said. "Any progress we make on this work will accrue to the benefit of developing and developed countries alike." A successful outcome in Ethiopia is seen as crucial for building momentum towards signing the Sustainable Development Goals in New York in September, and for reaching a climate change agreement in Paris in December. "Failure to agree is not an option,” Save the Children's policy, advocacy and campaigns director Brendan Cox said in a statement. "Too much is at stake." (The story is refiled with ADDIS ABABA dateline) (Reporting by Katy Migiro, editing by Tim Pearce; Please credit the Thomson Reuters Foundation, the charitable arm of Thomson Reuters, that covers humanitarian news, women’s rights, corruption and climate change. Visit www.trust.org) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All papers will be published by IEEE and included in IEEE Xplore digital library, and all other global indices. News: Extended and excellent papers will be reviewed for publication in a Springer Special Book "Computer Science and Technology for Future Smart Cities", indexed in Springer global indices, one of the largest databases in the world and Scopus including citations: approved. BEST PAPER AWARDS Two best papers of the conference will be selected by the program committee. One will be awarded the "Best Research Paper Award" and another one will be awarded the "Best Application Paper Award" (for application-oriented submissions). IMPORTANT DATES Papers Submission 12 August 2015 (extended) Students Posters Submission 15 July 2015 (closed) Submission of Tutorials 15 July 2015 (closed) Notification for Tutorials 30 August 2015 Notification for Papers and Student Posters from 9 September 2015 Final Camera-Ready 29 September 2015 SCOPE The International Conference on Innovations in Information Technology 2015 (IIT'15) is a forum that addresses the latest ideas in information technology (IT). The theme of IIT'15 is Smart Cities and all of the software and hardware technologies that are required to provide better living conditions in the cities of tomorrow. This theme will be reflected by a number of tracks which focus on different aspects of related technologies such as Big Data, cloud computing, collaborative platforms, communication infrastructures, smart health, smart learning, social participation, sustainable development and energy management. All of those themes will be brought together by unifying invited high quality keynotes and panels. CONFERENCE TRACKS/THEMES Topics of interest include but not limited to the following major tracks/themes. Research papers are invited but not limited to the following areas: Track A: Innovations in Information and Communication Infrastructures - Advanced Network Technologies, Heterogeneous networks, and Real Time Networks - Quality of Services - Next Generation of Mobile Networks - Ad-Hoc and Sensor Networks, Wireless Networks - Distributed Systems, Grid Computing - Smart Grid - Mobility Management and Mobile computing - Information and Cyber Security for Smart Living Spaces Track B: Internet of Things (IoT) - ICT Architecture for IoT - System design, Modeling and Simulation - Grid Computing , and Cloud Computing - Real-Time Systems for IoT, Autonomic Systems - Security, Privacy, Trust and Reliability - Software Design and Development of IoT-Based Applications - Intelligent Data Processing - Smart Appliances & Wearable Computing Devices Track C: Smart Collaborative Platforms and Logistics - Agile Information Systems - Design, Modeling and Simulation of Collaborative Applications - Practice and Experiences of Collaborative Applications - Risk Management, Smart Business - Middleware Support for Collaboration - Real-Time Information Sharing and Interaction - AI and Decision-Support Systems Track D: Big Data and Smart Applications - Big Data Analytics and Algorithms - High Performance Computing and Real-Time of Big Data Processing - Big Data Storage and Distribution - Data Mining - Grid Computing and Cloud Computing - Middleware for Smart Applications - e-Health, Smart Learning, Intelligent Processing and Intelligent Applications Track E: Cyber-Physical Energy Systems - Theory, Tools and Applications - System Design, Modeling and Simulation - Testbeds and Experiences - Algorithms for Energy Efficiency - Middleware - Design and Development of Protocols for Sustainable energy - Design and Development of Secure and Resilient Systems SUBMISSIONS IIT'15 seeks original manuscripts (of up to 6 pages maximum in IEEE two-column format) describing research in all aspects of IT that contribute to the conference themes. 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This opens new research opportunities for business process data analysis, mining and modeling. The aim of the IFIP 2.6 International Symposium on Data-Driven Process Discovery and Analysis is to offer a forum where researchers from different communities and the industry can share their insight in this hot new field. The Symposium will feature a number of keynotes illustrating advanced approaches, shorter presentations on recent research, a competitive PhD seminar and selected research and industrial demonstrations. This year the symposium will be held in Vienna, a city in the UNESCO World Heritage List. Call for Papers The IFIP International Symposium on Data-Driven Process Discovery and Analysis (SIMPDA 2014) offers a unique opportunity to present new approaches and research results to researchers and practitioners working in business process data modeling, representation and privacy-aware analysis. The symposium will bring together leading researchers, engineers and scientists from around the world. Full papers must not exceed 15 pages. Short papers are limited to at most 4 pages. All papers must be original contributions, not previously published or under review for publication elsewhere. All contributions must be written in English and must follow the LNCS Springer Verlag format. Templates can be downloaded from: http://www.springer.de/comp/lncs/authors.html Accepted papers will be published in a pre-proceeding volume of CEUR workshop series. The authors of the accepted papers will be invited to submit extended articles to a post-symposium proceedings volume which will be published in the LNBIP series (Lecture Notes in Business Information Processing, http://www.springer.com/series/7911), scheduled for early 2015 (extended papers length will be between 7000 and 9000 words). Around 10-15 papers will be selected for publication after a second round of review. Topics of interest for submission include, but are not limited to: - Business Process modeling languages, notations and methods - Lightweight Process Model - Data-aware and data-centric approaches - Process Mining with Big Data - Variability and configuration of process models - Process simulation and static analyses - Process data query languages - Process data mining - Privacy-aware process data mining - Process metadata and semantic reasoning - Process patterns and standards - Foundations of business process models - Resource management in business process execution - Process tracing and monitoring - Process change management and evolution - Business process lifecycle - Case studies and experience reports - Social process discovery - Crowdsourced process definition and discovery IMPORTANT DATES Paper Submission: 25 September 2015 Submission of PhD Presentations: 25 September 2015 Notification of Acceptance: 07 November 2015 Submission of Camera Ready Papers: 21 November 2015 Second International Symposium on Process Data: 9-11 December 2015 Post-proceeding submissions: 30 March 2016 Workshop Format: In accordance to our historical tradition of proposing SIMPDA as a symposium, we propose an innovative format for this workshop: The number of sessions depend on the number of submissions but, considering the previous editions, we envisage to have four sessions, with 4-5 related papers assigned to each session. A special session (with a specific review process) will be dedicated to discuss research plan from PhD students. Papers are pre-circulated to the authors that will be expected to read all papers in advance but to avoid exceptional overhead, two are assigned to be prepared with particular care, making ready comments and suggestions. The bulk of the time during each session will be dedicated to open conversations about all of the papers in a given session, along with any linkages to the papers and discussions within an earlier session. The closing session (30 minutes), will include a panel about open challenges during which every participant will be asked to assemble their thoughts/project ideas/goals/etc that they got out of the workshop. Call for PhD Research Plans The SIMPDA PhD Seminar is a workshop for Ph.D. students from all over the world. The goal of the Seminar is to help students with their thesis and research plans by providing feedback and general advice on how to use their research results. Students interested in participating in the Seminar should submit an extended abstract describing their research. Submissions can relate to any aspect of Process Data: technical advances, usage and impact studies, policy analyses, social and institutional implications, theoretical contributions, interaction and design advances, innovative applications, and social implications. Research plans should be at most of 5 page long and should be organized following the following structure: Abstract: summarizes, in 5 line, the research aims and significance. Research Question: defines what will be accomplished by eliciting the relevant the research questions. Background: defines the background knowledge providing the 5 most relevant references (papers or books). Significance: explains the relevance of the general topic and of the specific contribution. Research design and methods: describes and motivates the method adopted focusing on: assumptions, solutions, data sources, validation of results, limitations of the approach. Research stage: describes what the student has done so far. SIMPDA PhD award A doctoral award will be given by the SIMPDA PhD Jury to the best research plan submitted. Student Scholarships An application for a limited number of scholarships aimed at students coming from emerging countries has been submitted to IFIP. In order to apply, please contact paolo.ceravolo at unimi.it Keynote Speakers Visual Analytics meets Process Mining: Challenges and Opportunities Theresia Gschwandtner and Silvia Miksch Vienna University of Technology Event data or traces of activities often exhibit unexpected behavior and complex relations. Thus, before and during the application of automated analysis methods, such as process mining algorithms, the analyst needs to investigate and understand the data at hand in order to decide which analysis methods might be appropriate. Visual Analytics integrates the outstanding capabilities of humans in terms of visual information exploration with the enormous processing power of computers to form a powerful knowledge discovery environment. The combination of visual data exploration with process mining algorithms makes complex information structures more comprehensible and facilitates new insights. In this talk, we will illustrate the various concepts of visual process mining, focusing on the challenges, but also the great opportunities for analyzing process data with Visual Analytics methods. Contextualisation Techniques in Process Mining Schahram Dustdar Vienna University of Technology, Austria Organizers CHAIRS Stefanie Rinderle-Ma, Universität Wien, Austria Paolo Ceravolo, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy ADVISORY BOARD Ernesto Damiani, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy Erich Neuhold, University of Vienna, Austria Maurice van Keulen, University of Twente, The Netherlands Philippe Cudré-Mauroux , University of Fribourg, Switzerland Program Committee MOHAMED ACHEMLAL, UNIVERSITY OF BORDEAUX, FRANCE MARCO ANISETTI, UNIVERSITÀ DEGLI STUDI DI MILANO, ITALY IRENE VANDERFEESTEN, EINDHOVEN UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY, THE NETHERLANDS CLAUDIO ARDAGNA, UNIVERSITÀ DEGLI STUDI DI MILANO, ITALY HELEN BALINSKY, HEWLETT-PACKARD LABORATORIES, UK MIRCO BIANCO, METROCONSULT ROBERTO DINI AND PARTNERS, ITALY JOOS BUIJS, EINDHOVEN UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY, THE NETHERLANDS ANTONIO CAFORIO, UNIVERSITÀ DEL SALENTO, ITALY CAROLINA CHIAO, UNIVERSITY OF ULM, GERMANY TONY CLARK, MIDDLESEX UNIVERSITY, UK BARABARA WEBER, UNIVERSITY OF INNSBRUCK, AUSTRIA PAUL COTOFREI, UNIVERSITY OF NEUCHÂTEL, SWITZERLAND PHILIPPE CUDRE-MAUROUX, UNIVERSITY OF FRIBOURG, SWITZERLAND NORA CUPPENS, ÉCOLE NATIONALE SUPÉRIEURE DES TELECOMMUNICATIONS DE BRETAGNE, FRANCE GIANLUCA DEMARTINI, UNIVERSITY OF SHEFFIELD, UK. CLAUDIO DI CICCIO, WU VIENNA, AUSTRIA SCHAHRAM DUSTDAR, VIENNA UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY, AUSTRIA GREGOR GRAMBOW, UNIVERSITY OF ULM, GERMANY CHRISTIAN GUETL, UNIVERSITY OF GRAZ, AUSTRIA MOHAND-SAID HACID, UNIVERSITY OF LYON, FRANCE VINCENT HILAIRE, UNIVERSITÉ DE TECHNOLOGIE DE BELFORT MONTBÉLIARD, FRANCE WEI-CHIANG HONG, ORIENTAL INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY, CHINA MUSTAFA JARRAR, BIRZEIT UNIVERSITY, PALESTINE MEIKO JENSEN, RUHR-UNI­VER­SI­TY BO­CHUM, GERMANY MASSIMO MECELLA, SAPIENZA UNIVERSITÀ DI ROMA, ITALY JAN MENDLING, WU VIENNA, AUSTRIA KWANGHOON PIO KIM, KYONGGI UNIVERSITY, SOUTH KOREA. BARBARA RUSSO, FREE UNIVERSITY OF BOZEN - BOLZANO, ITALY GIOVANNA SISSA, UNIVERSITÀ DEGLI STUDI DI GENOVA, ITALY MAURICE VAN KEULEN, UNIVERSITY OF TWENTE, THE NETHERLANDS MATTHIAS WEIDLICH, IMPERIAL COLLEGE, UK ISABELLA SEEBER, UNIVERSITY OF INNSBRUCK, AUSTRIA ZEESHAN PERVEZ, UNIVERSITY OF THE WEST OF SCOTLAND, UK MARCIN WYLOT, UNIVERSITY OF FRIBOURG, SWITZERLAND JOSE JACOBO ZUBCOFF, UNIVERSIDAD DE ALICANTE, SPAIN WILFRIED GROSSMANN, UNIVERSITY OF VIENNA, AUSTRIA KARIMA BOUDAOUD, ECOLE POLYTECHNIQUE DE NICE SOPHIA ANTIPOLIS, FRANCE Historical Information on Previous Editions SIMPDA was proposed in 2011 and 2012 by IFIP WG 2.6 and 2.12/12.4 as the International Symposium on Data-Driven Process Discovery and Analysis. The symposium had around 30 attendees in 2011 and 20 in 2012. It featured a number of keynotes illustrating new approaches, shorter presentations on recent research, and a competitive PhD seminar, together with selected research and industrial demonstrations. The authors of the accepted papers have been invited to submit extended articles to a post-symposium proceedings volume published in the Springer LNBIP series. Several events and activities arose off these symposia, among the most notables we have two Dagstuhl seminars: Dagstuhl Seminar on Semantic Challenges in Sensor Networks, January 24-29, 2010. Dagstuhl Seminar on Unleashing Operational Process Mining, November 24-29, 2010. **************** Per destinare il 5x1000 all'Universita' degli Studi di Milano: indicare nella dichiarazione dei redditi il codice fiscale 80012650158. http://www.unimi.it/13084.htm?utm_source=firmaMail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=linkFirmaEmail&utm_campaign=5xmille -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fulvio.frati at unimi.it Tue Jul 21 13:00:51 2015 From: fulvio.frati at unimi.it (Fulvio Frati) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 19:00:51 +0200 Subject: [governance] [CFP] 2015 Workshop on Computational Intelligence Techniques for Industrial and Medical Applications (CITIMA2015) Message-ID: <016701d0c3d6$cc7c24d0$65746e70$@unimi.it> *** CITIMA 2015 *** [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP] **************************************************************************** ********************** 2015 Workshop on Computational Intelligence Techniques for Industrial and Medical Applications Collocated with: SITIS 2015 - The 11th International Conference on SIGNAL IMAGE TECHNOLOGY & INTERNET BASED SYSTEMS November 23-27, 2015 - Bangkok, Thailand http://sitis-conf.org/en/citima-2015.php **************************************************************************** ********************** Scope of the Workshop Computational Intelligence techniques are adopted in many industrial applications, like visual based quality control, image enhancement in consumer electronics, video based recognition of identity or behaviors, audio based speech recognition for enhanced human like interaction with machines etc. It also has a strong impact in medical applications, like medical image enhancement, semi-automatic detection of pathologies, pre-filtering and reconstruction of volumes from medical scans etc. Despite this growing diffusion, there are still many possible areas where computational intelligence application is partial or could be extended and improved, due to the actual limitations in terms of computational power or strict requirements in terms of assurance of the results. This workshop aims to investigate the impact of the adoption of advanced and innovative Computational Intelligence techniques in industrial and medical applications. This edition of the workshop is focused primarily on Imaging and Multimedia based industrial and medical applications with special emphasis to real time systems. The workshop will bring together researchers on different disciplines from academia and industry with a common objective: go beyond the frontiers of today industrial applications of Computational Intelligence techniques. Topics for the workshop include, but are not limited to: - Imaging for Industrial applications - Computational Intelligence approaches in Consumer Electronics - Real-time Multimedia Signal Processing - Intelligent User Interfaces - Virtual-augmented reality for Healthcare - Real-time digital images & watermarking - Real-time signal compression and analysis - Spatial and temporal estimation and protection of media streams - Learning systems for signal and information processing and evidential reasoning for recognition - Soft computing approaches for embedded multimedia systems - Real time signal processing & vision - Expert system for embedded system - Color and illumination Important dates Submission deadline: September 6, 2015 Acceptance/Reject notification: October 10, 2014 Camera-ready: October 15, 2014 Author Registration: October 19, 2014 Submission Each submission should be at most 8 pages in total including bibliography and well-marked appendices, and must follow the IEEE double columns publication format available at: - Microsoft Word DOC - LaTex Formatting Macros Paper submission will only be online via Easy Chair. Only pdf files will be accepted. Submissions not meeting these guidelines risk rejection without consideration of their merits. All submitted papers will be carefully evaluated based on originality, significance, technical soundness, and clarity of expression by at least two reviewers. The organizers will examine the reviews and make final paper selections. Publication All the papers accepted for the workshop will be included in the conference proceedings. The proceedings will be published by IEEE Computer Society. Content will be submitted to the indexing companies for possible indexing. They will be available at the conference. Registration At least one author of each accepted paper must register for the workshop. Workshop registration fee is determined by SITIS. A single registration for the workshop or the conference allows attending both events. Program Co-Chairs - M. Anisetti, Università degli studi di Milano, Italy - R. Sassi, Università degli studi di Milano, Italy - V. Bellandi, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy - G. Jeon, Incheon National University, Korea Program Committee - Borko Furht, Florida Atlantic University, USA - Alessandro De Mauro, VicomTech, Spain - Michele Geronazzo, University of Padova, Italy - Marco Sacco, National Research Council, Italy - Fulvio Frati, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy - Luigi Arnone, ST-Ericsson, Switzerland - Chehri Abdellah , of Ottawa, Canada - Yong Fang, Northwest A&F University, China - Jiaji Wu, Xidian University, China - Xiangdong Chen, Nanjing University of Posts and Telecommunications, P.R. China - Wei Wu, Sichuan University, China - Wang Lei, University of Jinan, China - Anand Paul, Kyungpook National University, South Korea - Kitsuchart Pasupa, King Mongkut's Institute of Technology, Thailand Contact marco.anisetti at unimi.it roberto.sassi at unimi.it **************** Per destinare il 5x1000 all'Universita' degli Studi di Milano: indicare nella dichiarazione dei redditi il codice fiscale 80012650158. http://www.unimi.it/13084.htm?utm_source=firmaMail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=linkFirmaEmail&utm_campaign=5xmille -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mariliamaciel at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 12:36:36 2015 From: mariliamaciel at gmail.com (Marilia Maciel) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:36:36 -0300 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Student Writing Competition: Case Studies on Multistakeholder Models Message-ID: Dear all, I am happy to share information on a student writing competition to identify innovative multistakeholder governance groups (deadline 15 September), organized by the Berkman Center in the context of the activities of the Global Network of Interdisciplinary Internet & Society Research Centers. Best wishes, Marília -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Student Writing Competition: Case Studies on Multistakeholder Models Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:46:24 -0400 From: Ryan Budish To: CC: Dear Friends: The Berkman Center for Internet and Society is excited to announce a student writing competition to identify innovative multistakeholder governance groups and help us understand the conditions under which they are most effective. We are seeking original papers (8 to 12 pages, single spaced) that help us better understand innovative, globally diverse governance groups. The top submissions with receive cash stipends. We are hoping that you will share this announcement with any students or post-doctoral scholars that might be interested in submitting a short case study. Submissions will be due September 15, 2015, and the full details about the competition and submission are available here: https://cyber.law.harvard.edu/node/98897. The Berkman Center, in collaboration with the Global Network of Interdisciplinary Internet & Society Research Centers (NoC), recently examined twelve diverse examples of multistakeholder governance groups. Through this writing competition, we are seeking submissions that will add to this list and help us help us explore other globally diverse and unique real-world examples. A sample case study (based on the NoC case study about Switzerland’s fiber optic cable deployment) is available for reference here . >From the submitted case studies, we will select the top three. First place will receive a cash stipend of $ 4000; second place will receive $3000; and third place will receive $2000. Additional awards for honorable mentions may be given at the discretion of the Berkman Center. These cash stipends are made possible by a generous Google Research Grant awarded to the Berkman Center. In addition, the top case studies will be published as part of a forthcoming Berkman Center report on multistakeholder governance groups. We believe this is a great opportunity for students to contribute to our understanding of how these governance groups operate and what makes them successful. We hope you’ll help us publicize this opportunity and let students know about this competition. If you have any questions, please contact me (rbudish at cyber.law.harvard.edu ). Warmly, Ryan Budish -- Ryan Budish Senior Researcher Berkman Center for Internet & Society, Harvard University rbudish at cyber.law.harvard.edu | @budish -- *Marília Maciel* Pesquisadora Gestora - Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio Researcher and Coordinator - Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts DiploFoundation associate - www.diplomacy.edu PoliTICs Magazine Advisory Committee - http://www.politics.org.br/ Subscribe "Digital Rights: Latin America & the Caribbean" - http://www.digitalrightslac.net/en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please encourage qualified colleagues to apply for the position. The announced closing date for applications is 20 September 2015. Please feel free to redistribute this message widely. 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The nub of it is to trade up front permission for data driven accountability, and I think that's a concept that deserves exploration. Thanks! George On Jul 29, 2015, at 7:36 AM, McTim wrote: > http://www.nickgrossman.is/2015/07/23/heres-the-solution-to-the-uber-and-airbnb-problems-and-no-one-will-like-it/ > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Right now it's the first panel (on multistakehoderism) which has morphed into a vigorous discussion on Net Neutrality and zero-rating. joly posted: "On June 24 2015 the Georgetown Center for Business and Public Policy hosted a symposium Completing the IP Transition: Confronting Technical Challenges and Maximizing Consumer Benefits. Given the premise that too little attention has been paid to either th" [image: kigf2015]Today *Friday 31 July 2015* the 5th *Kenya Internet Governance Forum* (KIGF) is underway in Nairobi. This year’s theme is *“Evolution of Internet Governance: Empowering Sustainable Development” . * The Kenya IGF is a unique platform for all stakeholders to openly exchange perspectives and concerns on key issues that may affect the future of the Internet for millions of Kenyans. The *Tenth Annual Global IGF Meeting *, with the same theme, will be convened by the United Nations and is scheduled to take place in *João Pessoa*, Brazil, on 10-13 November 2015. It is in line with this that every year, the Kenya IGF is organized in partnership with stakeholders to address key Internet issues, and outcomes will feed into the Global IGF. There is a live webcast of today’s meeting on the Internet Society Livestream Channel . Nairobi is UTC+3, 7 hours ahead of NYC time. *What*: *Kenya Internet Governance Forum* *Where*: Nairobi *When*: Friday 31 July 2015 08:30am-6:00pm EAT | 05:30-1500 UTC | 01:30-1100 EDT *Programme*: http://kenyaigf.or.ke/index.php/about-kigf/kigf-programme *Webcast*: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/keigf15 *Twitter*: #kigf2015 Comment See all comments *​Permalink* http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7961 - -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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