From raquino at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 05:15:34 2015 From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 07:15:34 -0300 Subject: [governance] Summary: All hearings/ Appeals Court upholds verdict against Khadija Ismayilova In-Reply-To: <565C5B4C.8000806@apc.org> References: <8D2F989DD964857.023ed9136a764fcdbd45e62e50b08d16@icprobounce.com> <565C5B4C.8000806@apc.org> Message-ID: Depressing is an understatement How can one help? Em 30/11/2015 11:20, "Anriette Esterhuysen" escreveu: > This is really depressing reading. Update on Khadija who was part of > civil society at the Baku IGF in 2012. > > One of the many local activists or journalists whose conditions have > only deteriorated since then. > > Anriette > > > > > *Appeals Court upholds verdict against Khadija Ismayilova* > > > > *Summary: Last hearing (November 25)* > > > > · At the hearing, defense counsel Fariz Namazli submitted a motion > requesting that Khadija Ismayilova sit next to her lawyers; > > · At the hearing, defense lawyers made speeches in which they asked > for Ismayilova’s acquittal; > > · Khadija Ismayilova made a speech explicitly linking her arrest to > her work as a journalist; > > · The public prosecutor asked the court to uphold the judgment of > the first instance court; > > · The Court of Appeal upheld the decision of Baku Grave Crimes Court. > > On November 25, the Baku Court of Appeal, chaired by the judge Ilgar > Murguzov, held a hearing on the case of journalist Khadija Ismayilova. > > > > */Defense counsel’s motion: /* > > > > At the court hearing, defense counsel Fariz Namazli made a verbal motion > for Khadija Ismayil to be seated next to her lawyers, to allow her to > consult with them freely. The state prosecutor asked for the motion to > be dismissed. The presiding judge rejected the motion, citing concerns > for Khadija Ismayil's safety. > > > > Khadija Ismayilova said she wanted to consult with her lawyers. The > presiding judge announced a 10-minute break, during which the defense > counsels entered the glass-encased cage. Khadija Ismayilova's > conversation with her lawyers took place in the presence of bailiffs. > > > > */Khadija Ismayilova's addendum to the appellate complaint/* > > > > Khadija Ismayilova submitted an addendum to the appellate complaint: > "The Baku Grave Crimes Court's decision states that I do not have any > property. I have decided to voluntarily provide information about the > property to be confiscated: a 5-storey building in London. All the > apartments on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th floors of that building are > rented for 9 years by 4 companies registered in Virgin Islands. Due to > the fact that property tax for foreign nationals is extremely high in > that country, they were not purchased, but rented…” > > > > Ismayilova was referring to properties rented out by Leyla Aliyeva, > daughter of the President. The judge turned off Khadija Ismayilova's > microphone, cutting her off. > > > > */Defense counsels' speech/* > > > > Defense counsel Fariz Namazli spoke first. > > > > "It is not right to conduct the proceedings without a judicial > investigation. During the preliminary hearing, we filed motions to > conduct the proceeding through partial investigation, to examine the > evidence that we presented to the court, but the evidence was not > examined. I want to speak about the charges. According to the charge > brought under Article 179.3.2 of the Criminal Code, Khadija Ismayilova > arranged for a number of individuals, cooperating with Azadliq Radio > under service contracts, register as payers of simplified tax instead of > income tax, thereby profiting from the 10% difference between simplified > tax and income tax, i.e. a total of 17,992.60 AZN. First of all, Khadija > Ismayilova has not signed contracts with any of the individuals > mentioned in the indictment: Hamidov Shamsaddin Rauf oglu, Babayeva > Gulnara Rafig gizi, Javadova Esmira Turab gizi, Mammadov Mustajab > Mutallim oglu, Nasibova Malahat Ibrahim gizi, Sadigova Gular Miryahya > gizi, Hasanov Samir Mammadali oglu, Zeynalov Eldar Tahir oglu, Nasibov > Ilgar Elbay oglu, Mammadli Rafig Humbat oglu and the founder and chief > editor of the "Fergli Dushunje" (Different Way of Thinking) magazine > Namazov Shahvalad Abutalib oglu. The case materials do not include > contracts signed between Khadija Ismayilova and those individuals.” > > > > Namazli said that the contracts that the defense had presented to the > court of first instance - which the court had refused to examine - > showed that Javadova Esmira Turab gizi signed her contract with Radio > Free Europe/Radio Liberty Corporation employee Elizabeth Portale, and > Namazov Shahvalad Abutalib oglu had signed his contract with the > official representative of the radio's representative office, Yahya > Mirzayev. > > > > According to the lawyer, the fact that an individual entrepreneur > establishes working relationships with any enterprise or employer on the > basis of a service contract rather than an employment contract is not > contrary to the existing legislation, and there is no legal provision > that prohibits this practice. Forcing the representative office to pay > income tax constitutes a gross violation of the right to free enterprise > provided by the Constitution of Azerbaijan Republic. > > > > “Shahvalad Namazov has registered as a physical person and obtained a > TIN from the tax authorities. Radio Azadliq transferred funds to his > personal account, not to the account of the magazine, which had a legal > entity status. Unfortunately, the court demonstrated its poor > understanding of the Law of Azerbaijan Republic on Mass Media, and, in > general, a failure to grasp how radio stations, magazines and editorial > offices are regulated. According to Article 14 of the Law on Mass Media, > permission from state authorities is not required to establish a print > publication. Any legal entity or physical person who wants to establish > a print publication is obliged to apply to the relevant executive > authority, the Ministry of Justice, 7 days prior to printing the > publication. In his testimony provided in court, Shahvalad Chobanoglu > stated that he had made such an application to the Ministry of Justice,” > the lawyer added. > > > > Fariz Namazli stressed that even if there had been a violation of the > law - such as a failure to sign an employment contract - Azerbaijani > legislation stipulates a special responsibility for such action. > > > > He added that the Articles 179.3.2 and 308.2 – under which their client > is being charged – refer to a specific person, i.e. the office holder. > But Khadija Ismayilova was not responsible for finances; in other words, > she was not an office holder. She was not responsible for finances while > she was the head of Baku Bureau of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. She > coordinated production activity on the instructions of the management, > and was exclusively engaged in production and programming work. She was > not entrusted with any property or financial obligations. > > > > “In her testimony as the accused, Khadija Ismayilova noted that her > employment contract does not include any clause assigning financial or > administrative authority. Besides, the motion filed with the court to > add the contracts signed with Javadova Esmira Turab gizi and Namazov > Shahvalad Abutalib oglu to the case file and to examine them was > rejected without any legal justification. But those contracts once again > confirmed that they were not signed by Khadija Ismayilova. Article > 192.2.2 of the Criminal Code deals with illegal entrepreneurship > committed by making a large amount of income. RFE/RL Inc. is a > non-profit company funded by US Congress and has not engaged in any > business activity since its establishment. The information on the > Radio's website says that Radio Liberty is a non-commercial organization > funded by the US Congress. Radio Liberty's mission is to support > democratic values and institutions by disseminating news and ideas. > Entrepreneurship is a completely different concept and its features have > been described in various legislative acts,” emphasized Namazli. > > > > The lawyer also noted that under the 30 December 2008 decision of the > National Television and Radio Council, the FM frequency given to Radio > Azadliq was revoked on 1 January 2009. At this point, Radio Azadliq > ceased its FM broadcasts. > > > > Namazli said that obtaining or extending a license was part of the job > description of the head of the Baku Bureau, and therefore, the charges > against Khadija Ismayilova in this regard are biased and unfair. > > > > “As to charges concerning the failure to gain accreditation with the > Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Azerbaijan Republic, we would like to > note that in 2010-2014 Khadija Ismayilova cooperated with Radio Free > Europe/Radio Liberty on the basis of a service contract and was not an > employee of that radio station or any foreign or local media outlet. She > operated as an independent journalist selling her investigative stories > to a number of media outlets, including Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. > There is no basis on which the tax evasion charge can be brought against > Khadija Ismayilova as the head of the Baku Bureau, because, as noted > above, the head of the Baku Bureau did not have administrative or > financial authority. Therefore she was not liable for payment of taxes > and social payments. Based on the foregoing, we request that Khadija > Ismayilova be acquitted,” concluded Fariz Namazli. > > After that, lawyer Javad Javadov gave his speech. “At the Baku Grave > Crimes Court, we presented the decision on the case "ANS versus Ministry > of Taxes" as legal precedent. In that case, the signing of service > contracts instead of employment contracts with employees was considered > illegal by the Ministry of Taxes. However, all court instances > considered the Tax Ministry's claim unfounded and ruled that the Tax > Ministry's decision was contrary to Article 300 of the Civil Code. > However, the Grave Crimes Court did not accept that decision. The court > of first instance has not conducted a fair investigation. We do not > believe either that it would be conducted fairly here,” Javad Javadov said. > > > > Next, lawyer Fakhraddin Mehdiyev made a speech. “Initially, the criminal > case was launched under Article 125. After Tural Mustafayev said that he > had filed the complaint under duress, the investigating authority saw > that continuing this case could lead to serious consequences. Therefore, > charges related to economic offenses were added. The investigating > authority committed serious violations. In order for Article 179 to be > relevant there must be a victim, but in this case, there is no victim. > There is no victim and no damage. At the court of first instance we > filed 35 motions, none of which were granted. Nor have our motions in > this court been granted. This proves that the case is biased. The Grave > Crimes Court violated Khadija Ismayilova’s right to a fair trial > provided for in the European Convention. The court's decision is a > serious blemish on Azerbaijan's image. This will lead the judges of > European Human Rights Court to make a decision that will be a shock for > them...” > > > > */Khadija Ismayilova’s speech/* > > > > After that, Khadija Ismayilova made a speech: “You do not have the > tolerance to listen to free speech. Whoever is in control of the > microphone turns it off whenever he wants. This country is ruled by mob > law. > > /(At this point, the judge turned off the microphone again)./ > > At the court of first instance, I requested that the head of the > Anti-Terror Department of the Ministry of National Security, Ilgar > Aliyev be interrogated. He directly supervised my case. > > /(At this point, the judge turned off the microphone again)/. > > > > You are too old to play with buttons. I am talking on the charges. I was > not the head of Azerbaijani Bureau of Radio Liberty. I was the head of > Baku Bureau. The charges should have been brought against the > Azerbaijani representation, not against me. This is the US Secretary of > State John Kerry. Ask him whatever questions you have. I am also charged > with failing to gain accreditation. You gain accreditation in order to > be able to attend state events. But I was never invited [to state > events], because they knew that I would ask them difficult questions. If > they do not let me attend the events held in the country, why should I > go and obtain accreditation? The prosecutor's office has written a > 16-ton indictment, which does not include a single fact. /(Laughing)/ > And yes, I should also say that the property in London, which I > mentioned at the beginning of my speech, is not in my name, but in Leyla > Aliyeva's. > > (/At this point, the judge turned off the microphone again and cut off > Khadija Ismayil’s speech/). > > > > After this, the public prosecutor made a speech and requested that the > verdict of the first instance court be upheld. > > The Court of Appeal ruled to uphold the Baku Grave Crimes Court verdict > of 1 September 2015. > > > > Background: Khadija Ismayil was arrested on 5 December 2014. She was > initially charged under article 125 of the Criminal Code (driving to > suicide). Later, she faced new charges under articles 179 > (misappropriation), 192.2 (illegal entrepreneurship), 213.2 (tax > evasion) and 308.2 (abuse of official powers). On September 1, the court > acquitted Khadija Ismayil of the charge filed under Article 125 of the > Criminal Code of Azerbaijan Republic (incitment to suicide). However, > the court found her guilty under Articles 179.3.2 (misappropriation and > waste on a large scale), 192.2.2 (illegal entrepreneurship), 213.1 (tax > evasion) and 308.2 (abuse of official powers) and sentenced her to 7.5 > years in jail and a 3-year ban from holding certain positions or > engaging in certain activities. Amnesty International has recognized > Khadija Ismayil as a prisoner of conscience. > > > > *Dispatches from Khadija Ismayilova’s trial* > > > > *Khadija Ismayilova’s trial: court orders alleged victim Tural > Mustafayev to attend* > > > > _Summary: Hearing 2 (7 __August 2015)_ > > · Tural Mustafayev, officially deemed a victim in the > case, did not attend the hearing; consequently the court issued an order > requiring his presence; > > · The public prosecutor announced the final part of the > indictment against Khadija Ismayilova, who stated that the charges were > unclear to her; > > · Ismayilova testified, and rejected the charges. She told > the court that she had never held any administrative authority at Radio > Azadliq (Radio Liberty’s Azerbaijani Service); > > · A witness for the prosecution, Aynur Imranova, was > questioned and told the court that Ismayilova was innocent and that > Tural Mustafayev suffered from mental health issues. She also stated > that she had been pressured by investigators to incriminate Ismayilova > in her statement; > > · Tural Mustafayev’s ex-fiancée, lawyer Rovshana Rahimli > testified; > > · The former head of Radio Liberty’s Baku Office, Babak > Bakir, told the court that neither he nor Ismayilova had dealt with > contractual or financial matters, and these issues were managed by the > Prague headquarters of Radio Liberty. > > > > On 7 August, the Baku Court of Grave Crimes heard the case of journalist > Khadija Ismayilova. Judge Ramella Allahverdiyeva presided over the hearing. > > > > Although a large crowd of people arrived to see the journalist’s trial, > the courtroom was filled with people who had no obvious interest in the > trial or its participants, while others were denied entry. Only > representatives of the US, German and French embassies were allowed in. > Ismayilova filed a motion to allow members of the public and journalists > to enter the courtroom, aimed at upholding the principle of judicial > openness. However, her motion was denied. The defence lawyers, in turn, > objected to the composition of the court on the grounds that (1) > Ismayilova’s motion had been rejected and (2) that the court required > that the witnesses be questioned before the alleged victim. However, > this motion was also rejected. > > > > _Defence motions_ > > > > The defence filed a motion to allow the journalist to sit next to her > lawyers, but this was denied, on the grounds that Ismayilova was being > held inside the glass cage for her own safety. > > > > A second defence motion addressed the issue of financial authority and > liability. Because the Radio Liberty Azerbaijani service (RL) had an > account with the Azerbaijan International Bank (AIB), argued the > defence, an inquiry must be sent to the AIB to establish whether they > had held Ismayilova’s sample signature as the head of RL’s Baku Bureau, > and/or payment orders bearing her signature intended for the conduct of > financial operations. > > The lawyers filed another motion requesting the court to add the > decisions on opening and suspending the tax inspection in RL’s Baku > Office to the case file. > > > > The motions were denied. > > > > _Announcement of the indictment_ > > > > Public prosecutor Ramazan Hadiyev announced the concluding section of > the indictment. He noted that after finding out that Tural Mustafayev > was engaged to another woman and despite knowing that he had attempted > suicide, Ismayilova prevented him from gaining employment at RFE/RL’s > Azerbaijani service in order to render him financially dependent on her, > thereby humiliating his dignity. > > > > The prosecutor also stated that from 1 July 2008 until 1 January 2009, > Ismayilova hired employees for RL’s Baku Office, acts which due to RL’s > unlicensed status, constituted illegal entrepreneurship (generating > 335,880 AZN in revenue). Ismayilova was also alleged to have evaded > 45,145 AZN in taxes. The public prosecutor added that there was > sufficient evidence that she had committed these crimes. > > > > _Khadija Ismayilova’s testimony_ > > > > Ismayilova argued that the charges brought against her were groundless. > “While I was at Radio Azadliq, I did not employ anyone or sign any > contract. I was responsible only for the broadcast programmes and > quality control of published articles. Employment contracts were signed > by the Prague office. As for Tural Mustafayev, I had no relationship > with him at all”. > > > > _Prosecution witnesses_ > > > > The first witness to take the stand was journalist Aynur Imranova. She > told the court that she had been interviewed extensively by > investigators, and requested the court to ask specific questions. > > > > Prosecutor: Did you have any contact with Radio Azadliq? How long have > you known Khadija? How do you know her? Which of Khadija Ismayilova’s > programmes have you been involved in? Have you applied to Radio Azadliq > to work as a journalist? Why did you want to work there? Were you a > taxpayer? Until when were you friends with Khadija Ismayilova? Have you > collaborated on any projects? How do you know Tural Mustafayev and since > when? Were you together with Tural Mustafayev’s fiancée Rovshana > Rahimova on 9 March 2014? What do you know about Khadija’s relationship > with Tural Mustafayev? Do you have any information about Tural > Mustafayev’s attempted suicide? > > > > Aynur Imranova: I did not have contact with Radio Azadliq. I have known > Khadija since 2012. I participated in several of her programmes as well > as in other presenters’ programmes. I have not worked for Radio Azadliq. > I applied once and Khadija told me that she did not handle recruitment, > as she was not authorised. The reason I wanted to work for Radio Azadliq > was because I thought my articles were similar to their style. Yes, I > have been a taxpayer for quite a long time. Khadija and I have not met > since May 2014 due to personal problems. I have developed a project on > capacity-building of investigative journalists, and Khadija voluntarily > assisted me in translating my project. Khadija’s investigations are well > known in many parts of the world. I have known Tural Mustafayev since > 2013; we met when Khadija was returning from abroad. I met Rovshana > Rahimli on 9 March 2014 in a café. Tural attempted suicide because he > quarrelled with Rovshana Rahimli several times. I have been questioned > by five people at the investigative agency. I have no information about > the relationship between Khadija and Tural. Tural is an alcoholic who is > mentally ill. He used to beat Rovshana Rahimli. Once Tural tried to hang > himself but he failed; he took a photo of this, which he shared via MMS > with friends. The investigators took my statement under pressure. They > offered me an apartment, money, and so on if I would testify against > Khadija. > > > > The former head of RL’s Baku Bureau, Babak Bakir, was next to testify. > He told the court that he had cooperated with Radio Azadliq since 1997, > and that in 2005 he became a full-time employee. “From 2010 till 2014, I > worked as a coordinator, which is essentially the acting head. But > recruitment and salaries were both determined by the Prague office. > Yahya Mirzayev was in charge of dealing with documentation. Khadija and > I were not involved in it. I had an account with Azerbaijan > International Bank. I worked based on an employment contract and paid > all relevant taxes. Our employees were accredited by the Ministry of > Foreign Affairs. I know Tural Mustafayev. He wanted to work for RL, and > I employed him. He was not a staffer. Once he wrote me an e-mail saying > that he was tired and wanted to leave his job and wanted to give up > journalism for awhile. But later, he worked for Meydan TV. After > quitting his job there, he applied to work with us again, but we did not > have any vacancies. The head of the RL’s Baku Bureau was not entitled to > be involved with financial matters. After leaving the position of the > Bureau head, I worked as a correspondent, and the coordinator was Zeynal > Mammadli. Khadija Ismayilova did not express any opinion on Tural > Mustafayev”. > > > > Hakim Ahmadov, who works as a security guard on Baku Boulevard, also > testified. He said that he did not know Khadija. “Citizens reported an > incident, and I called an ambulance. None of his relatives or friends > were present, until one person came. The man was conscious and able to > talk. Then the ambulance arrived and took him”, said the witness. > > > > The court scheduled the next hearing for 10 August at 11.00am. > > > > Three journalists attempting to film the hearing from outside were taken > to the police office, but were later released. After the hearing, > journalists who wanted to interview the hearing participants were > attacked. The assailants tried to smash their cameras and the police > officer guarding the court failed to intervene. A journalist who tried > to take refuge inside the court building was forced out by the police > officers. > > > > /Background:/ Khadija Ismayilova was arrested on 5 December 2014. She > was initially charged under article 125 of the Criminal Code (incitement > to suicide). Later, she faced new charges under articles 179.3.2 > (misappropriation - on a large scale); 192.2.2 (implementation of > illegal business activity - with extraction of income in a large > amount); 213 (evasion of payment of taxes or other obligatory payments > of a significant amount); and 308.2 (abuse of official powers - > entailing heavy consequences or committed to influence the outcome of an > election or referendum). Amnesty International has recognised Ismayilova > as a prisoner of conscience. > > > > *Journalists attacked after Khadija Ismayilova’s trial* > > > > On 7 August, the Baku Court of Grave Crimes held a hearing in the case > of journalist Khadija Ismayilova. Numerous journalists and activists > arrived to attend the hearing, but were not allowed in. The court guards > only allowed representatives of foreign missions (the US, German, and > French embassies) to enter the courtroom. The court officers said that > the courtroom was full and no empty seats were left. Journalist Orkhan > Rustemzade, who was filming in front of the courthous, was taken to > Police Station #22. He was released after two hours, after giving a > statement. > > > > After the hearing was over, Voice of America radio journalist Tapdig > Farhadoglu asked those leaving the court building whether Ismayilova had > attended the hearing. The situation escalated when he asked an elderly > man, who said he had attended the hearing, whether he was related to > Ismayilova. Farhadoglu was then assaulted by two women and a man. Meydan > TV journalists Izolda Agayeva and Aytaj Ahmadova, filming together with > Radio Liberty reporter Islam Shikhali, also faced violence; an elderly > woman took a glass bottle from a bin and attempted to hit Aytaj > Ahmadova. Fortunately Ahmadova’s colleagues intercepted the blow, but > another woman did manage to hit Ahmadova with her bag. A man attacked > and tried to assault Shikhali, but he managed to escape. > > > > Meanwhile, one of the women threw her shoe at Tapdig Farhadoglu, who > tried to seek refuge in the court building, but the court guards and > police forced him back out towards the waiting crowd. A young man came > from a distance and hit Farhadoglu. Police officers present at the scene > failed to intervene and protect members of the press from this outbreak > of violence. The police and assailants told Farhadoglu to refrain from > “causing provocations”. > > > > *Khadija Ismayilova’s trial: Alleged victim Tural Mustafayev admits to > slandering Ismayilova during the investigation* > > > > _Summary: Hearing 3 (10 August 2015)_ > > > > · Tural Mustafayev, the alleged victim in Khadija > Ismayilova's case, testified that it was he who had slandered > Ismayilova, and he had suffered no emotional damage and had no claims > against her; > > · Mustafayev's mother and father, who were questioned as > prosecution witnesses, stated they had no claims against Khadija; > > · Prosecution witness Rovshana Rahimli told the court that > Mustafayev (her former fiancé) was mentally ill, physically abusive > towards her, and that each time they had split up, he had attempted > suicide; > > · The defence’s motions to include Mustafayev's interview > in the evidence list and to revoke his victim status were denied; > > · Prosecution witness Shahvalad Chobanoglu testified, > stating that Khadija herself was the victim of a crime. > > > > On 10 August, the Baku Court of Grave Crimes resumed the hearing in the > case against journalist Khadija Ismayilova. Judge Ramella Allahverdiyeva > presided over the hearing. > > > > Although numerous people wanted to attend the trial, the courtroom had > been filled in advance with people unrelated to the trial, and so many > of those seeking to attend were denied entry. Only the representatives > of the US, German and French embassies were permitted to observe. > > > > _Defence motions_ > > > > The defence filed a motion requesting that the media interviews of Tural > Mustafayev, recognised as a victim by the prosecution, be included in > the evidence list. In those interviews, Mustafayev said that law > enforcement agencies had blackmailed several people with secretly > recorded videos in order to compel them to give statements incriminating > Ismayilova. > > > > With regard to the lawyer's motion, Ismayilova said, "Tural Mustafayev's > first statement against me was written on 25 November, but the > prosecutor's office had obtained the court warrant to listen to my phone > conversation a month earlier, on 28 October. Did the prosecutor's office > receive some kind of revelation or glean news of the future from > extra-terrestrials in order to know that Tural would file such a > complaint, enabling them to obtain the warrant in advance?” > > > > The lawyer also requested that Mustafayev's victim status be dismissed; > however both motions were denied. > > > > _Tural Mustafayev’s testimony_ > > > > Mustafayev testified that his suicide attempt on 20 October 2014 was > unrelated to Ismayilova. "I got to know Khadija Ismayilova in October > 2013, and our relationship was purely professional. Neither my > employment at Radio Azadliq, nor my decision to leave, nor my > cooperation with Meydan TV bears any relation to Ismayilova. The > documentation regarding my treatment at a psychiatric patient in > Mashtaga [settlement] is in the case file. Due to my poor mental health > I attempted suicide three times in 2014”. > > > > However, due to the contradiction between the statement Mustafayev gave > in court and his prior statement, the court read out the statement he > had provided during the investigation. > > > > When the court asked for an explanation for this contradiction, > Mustafayev said he had slandered Ismayilova in the testimony he provided > to the investigators. "I had no dependence on Khadija in any way. She > played no role in my dismissal from my job, or my drinking the rat > poison. I do not consider myself a victim", said Mustafayev. > > > > _Prosecution witnesses_ > > > > Mustafayev's mother, Nazakat Mustafayeva, who had been interrogated by > investigators as a witness, was also questioned. She said that she lives > in Goychay. Her son came to Baku in late 2013, but she was unaware of > his job or the persons with whom he was involved. However, in her > initial testimony to investigators, she confirmed her son's statement > and requested that Ismayilova be held to account for driving her son to > attempt suicide. > > > > The next prosecution witness, Mustafayev's ex-fiancée Rovshana Rahimli, > told the court that Mustafayev had attempted to take his own life three > times, and that none of these incidents had been related to Ismayilova. > She requested that the court consider her court testimony as valid, > because her testimony to the investigators had been distorted. > > > > “I met Tural on 8 March 2014 at a holiday party and we got engaged on 28 > May. He suffered from mental health issues. While we were together, he > attempted suicide three times. Tural repeatedly insulted and physically > assaulted me when he was drunk, but then he would promise to behave and > we would reconcile. On 15 October, we had a big argument, leading me to > file a police complaint on 16 October. After drinking rat poison on the > Boulevard on 20 October, Tural Mustafayev wrote a text message to my > friend Samira Agayeva saying that he did not want to live without me. > After the suicide attempt, he was first taken to Semashko [hospital] and > kept there for one day, before being transferred to the mental health > unit. We consulted a doctor while we were together, and he was diagnosed > as a psychopath, meaning that his condition is impossible to treat”, > Rahimli told the court. > > > > Mustafayev's father also testified as a witness. "I had already said to > investigators that we did not suspect anyone. Then we went to Rovshana's > house and she said that it might have been done by Khadija Ismayilova > and I was convinced. I do not have a complaint against anyone. Rovshana > Rahimli told me that Tural lost his job and could not find a new one > because of Khadija", he said. But when Ismayilova asked him, "Do you > consider me guilty in your son's suicide?", he replied, "I do not blame > anyone at all". > > > > When the judge asked about the discrepancies between his initial > testimony and his statement in court, he replied that he had simply > repeated what he had heard from Rahimli to the investigators. > > > > Samira Agayeva also confirmed in her testimony that Mustafayev had > psychological problems. "Before his suicide attempt, I met him in the > city and he said that he had been drinking for a week and did not want > to live. And an hour later, I received a text message that read "Tell > Roshka that I did what she had told me..." > > > > Mustafayev's ex-wife Shafa Mustafayeva said they were divorced on 8 May > 2014 and have two children, and that Mustafayev had gotten engaged to > Rovshana after the divorce. "I heard from his family that he was > unemployed and had lost his mind. I did not face any pressure from the > investigators", said Mustafayeva. > > > > Another witness for the prosecution, Matanat Abdinova, who worked as a > cleaner for Radio Azadliq, said she was hired in 2008 and signed a > service contract with Mr. Yahya. "I did not sign a contract with > Khadija. She only gave me instructions related to cleaning. I discussed > all my job-related issues with Mr. Yahya. My salary was transferred to > my bank account, and I paid all the required taxes". > > > > According to witness Gulnaz Guliyeva, she was hired as a translator for > Radio Azadliq by Ismayilova. "I was not a permanent employee. I worked > with a TIN. I had a bank account, which is now closed". > > > > Shahvalad Chobanoglu testified that he had first been questioned in > December 2014, but the interrogation was not directly related to > Ismayilova, because the charges against her were only brought in > February 2015. "Khadija herself is the victim of a crime. I have been a > taxpayer since 2006. Khadija Ismayilova was not involved in my work. I > was the editor and founder of the ‘Different Opinion’ magazine, which > was registered with the Ministry of Justice. All related funds were > transferred to my bank account and I paid four per cent as tax". > > > > Next, a former employee of Radio Azadliq, Chingiz Sultansoy, testified. > "When I was summoned for interrogation, I requested a lawyer, but the > authorities told me that the lawyer could come later. Nonetheless, I > refused to provide a testimony. Then I was questioned for three hours. > They asked numerous questions. I told them that I had signed my > employment contract with the [RFE/RL] head office, and showed them my > contract. I said that I had been hired by Kenan Aliyev, and that my > salary bore no relation to Khadija Ismayilova", the journalist told the > court. > > > > *Khadija Ismayilova’s trial: The court finishes questioning prosecution > witnesses* > > > > Summary: Hearing 6(13 August 2015) > > · The court denied a series of motions filed by the > defence regarding some details that would prove important for the case > and ensure its objective investigation; > > · Radio Azadliq employee Ulker Guliyeva, who had been > questioned by the prosecution, testified and answered questions related > to the radio; > > · The court announced the witness statement of Radio > Azadliq technical maintenance worker Farid Abdullayev, who had been > interrogated by the prosecution; > > · Khadija Ismayilova and her lawyers objected to the rapid > pace of the trial, but the court did not take the objection into account. > > On 13 August, the third successive hearing was held in the case of > journalist Khadija Ismayilova in the Baku Court of Grave Crimes. Judge > Ramella Allahverdiyeva presided over the hearing. > > As in previous days, only representatives of a few embassies and > government media outlets were allowed to enter the courtroom. > > > > _Defence motions_ > > > > The defence requested that Shahla Humbatova be questioned as a witness > in relation to the suicide attempt of Tural Mustafayev, who was > considered a victim by the court. The motion was rejected. > > > > lawyer Fariz Namazli also stressed the importance of further > investigation of the claims that Mustafayev had been fired from Meydan > TV at Ismayilova’s insistence. The lawyer said they had sent an inquiry > to Meydan TV in this regard and received a response, and they wanted > this response to be included in the evidence list, but the judge refused > to do so, because, according to her, the source of the response was > suspicious. > > > > The defence then requested the inclusion in the evidence list of Tural > Mustafayev’s email correspondence with the head of Radio Liberty’s Baku > Bureau, Babak Bakir, about his intention to quit his job at Radio > Azadliq. However, this motion was similarly dismissed. > > > > The defence filed a motion to summon Adil Ismayilov, a representative of > Radio Azadliq, to the trial, but the judge also denied this motion. > > > > “At least, don’t make it so clear that you’ve closed the radio station > because of me. You closed down the radio station to arrest me, because > you needed to arrest me after searching the radio station, but you did > the opposite”, Ismayilova said. > > > > Lawyer Fariz Namazli noted that during his testimony as a victim, Tural > Mustafayev stated that he had not voluntarily presented his personal > Facebook correspondence to the prosecutor’s office. Therefore, the > lawyer requested that this correspondence be removed from the evidence > list, but the motion was denied. > > > > Namazli also requested that relevant structures of the Ministry of > Communications and Information Technologies and representatives of the > National Television and Radio Council be summoned to court as additional > witnesses in connection with the issue of the radio station’s broadcast. > However, this motion was rejected too. > > > > The lawyers and Ismayilova protested the rapid pace at which the trial > was being held, and requested more time, but the judge did not take > their request into account. > > > > Ismayilova objected to the judge. “You say a 15-year sentence awaits me. > I am ready to be jailed even for 25 years. At least I would spend a > small part of it here, in the courtroom, striving and fighting for my > rights. To ensure my rights. I understand that you’ve been given an > order with regard to me. You already know what sentence you’ll give me. > Maybe you even feel remorse for coming and seeing me here every day. > But, give me an opportunity to defend my rights”, said Ismayilova. > > > > _Prosecution witnesses _ > > > > Radio Azadliq employee Ulker Guliyeva, a witness for the prosecution, > gave her testimony. She was asked about the radio station’s activities > and the difference between full-time employees and contract workers. > Ulker Guliyev said she had been working for the radio station since 2005 > and received her salary in her International Bank account and then via a > plastic card. She told the court that there was no significant > difference between full-time employees and contract workers. > > > > Radio Azadliq’s technical maintenance worker Farid Abdullayev was then > due to testify, but as he was not present, his investigation statement > was read. In his statement, he had noted that he worked based on a > service contract and paid all required taxes. He had added that he had > once seen another Radio Azadliq employee, Javanshir Agamaliyev, receive > a few thousand AZN in addition to his salary in his bank account, and > withdraw the money from his account. > > Ismayilova objected to this statement, saying that Farid Abdullayev’s > statement had changed and he must come to court. The court said this > issue would be assessed at the end. > > > > Thus, the questioning of prosecution witnesses was completed and the > next hearing was set for 14 August at 15.00. > > > > *Defence motions repeatedly rejected * > > > > _Summary: Hearing 7 (14 August 2015)_ > > > > · Khadija Ismayilova objected to the presiding judge and the court > clerk, but her objections were dismissed; > > · Defence lawyers filed a number of key motions, but all were > denied by the court. > > Journalist Khadija Ismayilova’s trial continued at the Baku Court of > Grave Crimes on 14 August. Judge Ramella Allahverdiyeva presided over > the hearing. > > > > It was another semi-closed hearing. As in previous hearings, employees > of the APA, Virtualaz.org and Telegraph news agencies were allowed to > enter the courtroom in advance. While representatives of the US, German, > French, and Norwegian embassies, Ismayilova’s family members, and an > Azadliq newspaper reporter were let in through the second door, > representatives from the UK embassy and Human Rights Watch were denied > entry. Many journalists and members of the public were also prevented > from attending denied entry. Numerous police officers and non-uniformed > Ministry of National Security (MNS) officers were waiting near the court > building. > > > > The seats in the courtroom were again filled with outsiders, > non-uniformed court staff, and MNS employees. > > > > _Defendant’s objections_ > > > > As soon as the hearing started, Ismayilova presented an objection to the > presiding judge, which stated: > > “Referring to Article 109.1.8 of the Criminal Procedure Code of (CPC) > Azerbaijan Republic, I object to Judge Ramella Allahverdiyeva, > considering the fact that she has demonstrated bias throughout the court > proceedings. This motion is based on the following circumstances: > > > > 1) The presiding judge has violated the principle of the equality of > parties. The defendant, in breach of the law, was not been provided with > copies of the criminal case documents during the investigation, and was > given only a small part of the required documents after filing a motion > with the court. The decision to deny a second motion was justified on > the grounds that ‘those [which have been] presented are enough’. Thus, > the judge ignored a violation of Article 285 of the CPC and demonstrated > her interest in the unequal status of the defence in the criminal > prosecution. The decision of the Plenum of the Supreme Court of > Azerbaijan Republic ‘On the Application of the Provisions of the > European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental > Freedoms and the Case-law of the European Court of Human Rights in the > Administration of Justice’ of 30 May 2006 was also violated as a result > of these actions. > > > > 2) Judge Ramella Allahverdiyeva threatened the defendant at a court > hearing, saying that a 15-year jail sentence awaited her. This threat > was not voiced in the context of interpreting the legislation or the > totality of the crimes. The judge said it in response to the defendant’s > criticisms and insistence that she would answer questions only at a > public hearing. > > > > 3) Judge Ramella Allahverdiyeva refused to include in the case file the > documents refuting charges that had been presented by witnesses, namely > the [employment/service] contracts presented to the court by Shahvalad > Namazov and Chingiz Sultanov. Instead, she returned the documents to the > witnesses. > > > > 4) None of the defence’s motions were granted. > > > > 5) The defence motion filed on 13 August 2015, which requested > questioning of witnesses, was rejected. Namely, the motions that > requested questioning of witness Humbatova Shahla Knyaz gizi and > representatives of the Ministry of Communications and Information > Technologies were denined, although the motions stated that the > questioning of those witnesses was of great importance in uncovering the > truth. Those witnesses possess first-hand information regarding the > allegations made in the indictment. In addition, the defence motion for > the questioning of the representative of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty > (RFE/RL) was also rejected. The court agreed with the prosecutors’ > objections that the charges were against Khadija Ismayilova, not Radio > Liberty, although RFE/RL is often mentioned in the indictment and their > documents are cited, and the charges are related to Khadija Ismayilova’s > activities in this organisation. > > > > 6) The judge refused to include in the case file Tural Mustafayev’s > interview with Azadliq newspaper of 4 August 2015, and his video message > published on YouTube on 3 May 2015, deeming them ‘questionable’ > evidence, although the motion to include the YouTube message in the case > file was also filed by the victim Mustafayev himself. During his > questioning [in court], Mustafayev confirmed what he had said in that > video message, and asserted that he had been pressured by the prosecution. > > > > 7) The motion to revoke Tural Mustafayev’s victim status, which was > backed by Mustafayev as well, was rejected groundlessly. > > > > 8) By scheduling a hearing every day, Allahverdiyeva deprived the > defendant of the opportunity to liaise with her lawyers, thus violating > the right to effective defence. The judge has ignored the repeated > requests and objections made in this regard. Allahverdiyeva also > overruled the objections regarding interference by court guards in > confidential discussions between the defendant and her lawyer, and > failed to intervene in this regard. I should remind that the > investigation of evidence is the direct duty of the court under the CPC. > > > > Considering the bias that Ramella Allahverdiyeva has demonstrated during > the court proceedings by violating all her duties set forth in Article > 28.4 of CPC, I request that she be dismissed from the present case. I > request that the above-mentioned circumstances be re-investigated and > new decisions be made on these motions under the chairmanship of an > impartial judge. I want to additionally note that in the detention > facility, I came across people repeatedly accused and convicted of many > crimes, and among them, there are some charged under Article 144, which > is human trafficking. Among people, they are known as “mama rosa” > [nickname for a female procurer]. What Ramella Allahverdiyeva has done > to Themis is nothing compared to what those women have done to the > victims of human trafficking. You have not respected the justice > legislation and have turned it into the bondmaid of the prosecutor’s > office. I request that the court disqualify you from this proceeding. I > don’t want to see the law being insulted in such a non-professional > manner”. > > > > The defence backed the motion. Commenting on the objection, the public > prosecutor said that the motions [referred to in the objection] were > vague and unsupported by the circumstances of the case and not > consistent with the case materials. He said that they had not been filed > in accordance with criminal procedure legislation, and there were no > grounds to justify them. He further remarked that the issues raised in > those motions were of a general nature and were rightly rejected by the > court’s rulings. He therefore noted that there were no grounds on which > to object to the judge who made those rulings. After a deliberation, the > panel of judges rejected the objection as unfounded. > > > > Ismayilova then declared that she wanted to present an objection against > the court clerk on the grounds that the court minutes had been > falsified, and said that she wanted to discuss this objection with her > lawyers. As the reason for the objection, Ismayilova referred to the > misrepresentation and misinterpretation of the judges’ words regarding > the 15-year jail sentence awaiting her in the court minutes. Ismayilova > said that the true context of these words had been shown in the media. > Ismayilova recalled that after the court’s denial of her motion > requesting audio and video recording of the proceedings, she had asked > to see the court minutes, but the court had not agreed. Ismayilova > expressed her objection to the court clerk and requested that she be > given an opportunity to familiarise herself with the minutes of the > court hearings. Ismayilova noted that there could be other cases of > falsification regarding other matters and she wanted to file motions for > the timely correction of those falsifications. But the court denied this > motion. > > > > _Lawyers’ motions_ > > > > Lawyer Fariz Namazli filed a number of motions during the hearing. The > lawyer requested that the representative of Radio Azadliq, Adil > Ismayilov, be invited to the hearing for the reason that the charges > filed against Ismayilova were related to her activities at Radio > Azadliq. “A criminal case has been launched against Radio Azadliq in a > separate proceeding, and investigations are allegedly on-going. Since > the charges are directly related to the activities of Radio Azadliq, it > is important that its representative, Adil Ismayilov, be invited to the > hearing and questioned to clarify their position”. However, this motion > was rejected. > > > > The second motion requested that the following documents be added to the > case file and investigated at the stage of examining the documents: a > letter dated 23 April 2015 of the National Television and Radio Council > (NTRC); an extract from the minutes of the NTRC’s meeting #11 dated 30 > December 2008; a letter dated 14 May 2015 of the State Radio Frequency > Department of Ministry of Communications and Information Technologies; a > letter dated 23 June 2015 of the Radio and Television Broadcasting and > Satellite Communications Production Association of the Ministry; and a > letter #255/6 dated 30 December 2008 of the NTRC. This motion was also > rejected. > > > > The lawyer also requested that the contracts signed between Javadova > Esmira Tural gizi and the RFE/RL Corporation and between Namazov > Shahvalad Abutalib oglu and the RFE/RL Corporation be added to the > criminal case materials and examined at the stage of examining the > documents. This motion was denied. > > > > Namazli filed another motion requesting that six witnesses mentioned in > the indictment be questioned. The lawyers also requested time to prepare > new motions and to hold discussions with Ismayilova for this purpose. > > The next hearing was set for 18 August at 11.00am. > > > > *Prosecutor seeks nine-year jail sentence for Khadija Ismayilova* > > > > _Summary: Hearing 8 (18 August 2015)_ > > > > · Khadija Ismayilova presented a letter to the chairman of the > court requesting the protection of the presiding judge’s right to > vacation time; > > · Ismayilova raised an objection to the composition of the panel of > judges, which remained unconsidered; > > · Ismayilova and her lawyers filed numerous motions, but none were > granted. > > > > On 18 August, the hearing resumed at the Baku Court of Grave Crimes. > Judge Ramella Allahverdiyeva presided over the hearing. > > > > Like previous hearings, this hearing was semi-closed. Only Ismayilova’s > family members and representatives of the German and UK embassies were > allowed to attend the hearing. From the media, only Azadliq newspaper > and APA news agency reporters were permitted entry. Numerous other > journalists and members of the public who attempted to observe the > hearing were again denied entry to the courtroom. Once again, many > others unrelated to the case were already seated in the courtroom. > > > > _Khadija Ismayilova’s letter to the chairman of the court _ > > > > At the beginning of the hearing, Ismayilova said she had a letter to be > presented to Mahmud Nabiyev, the Chairman of the Baku Court of Grave > Crimes. > > > > The letter said: “For the sake of a fair trial, ensure Ramella > Allahverdiyeva’s right to vacation. The summer is going to be over and > the holiday season is about to end, and I don’t want my right of defence > to be violated or to be tried based on hasty decisions made in a hasty > proceeding. Please, do not base the judge’s right to rest on the > progress of my trial, and allow Allahverdiyeva to go on vacation. I will > wait. If after returning from the vacation the judge continues the > proceeding earnestly and without haste, I think that it will benefit the > justice henceforth. Best wishes, Khadija Ismayilova”. > > > > The judge said that the letter written to the court chairman had no > relation to her and advised it be presented to the court though the mail > or a lawyer. > > > > Ismayilova then stated her objection to the composition of the bench. > “Considering the fact that the court panel is interested in the criminal > prosecution and has violated the principle of equality of parties, I > object to the composition of the bench, referring to Article 109.1.8 of > the Criminal Procedure Code. The objection is based on the following > arguments: > > > > 1) The court is consistently denying the defence motions, including > those that request the inclusion in the case file of the documents and > the questioning of witnesses, both of which serve the purpose of an > objective investigation. Thus, the court only supports the stance of the > prosecutor and does not create conditions for the defendant to defend > herself. > > > > 2) Judge Karimov Novruz Agakarim oglu justifies the threats made against > the defendant by the presiding Judge Ramella Allahverdiyeva, thereby > violating the law. Moreover, the panel demonstrates unanimity in > rejecting the [defence] motions, while repeating the prosecutor’s > statements verbatim. Such cases continued to occur after another > objection had been raised against the presiding judge, and the panel > chaired by Ramella Allahverdiyeva prevented the inclusion into the case > file of the documents confirming that only Radio Liberty, not Khadija > Ismayilova, was authorised to hire new employees, and the documents > confirming that the license issues related to the radio’s broadcasting > were dealt with by the Baku Bureau. In view of the above-said, I request > that the composition of the panel be changed and the Judicial Legal > Council be requested to investigate the illegal actions of the judges > Ramella Allahverdiyeva, Tamilla Nasirullayeva, and Novruz Karimov. I > would like to add that Judge Novruz Karimov not only justified a breach > of law, but also made references to the falsifications in the minutes. > Considering the inadmissibility of a judge’s telling lies, I believe > that the current panel cannot consider this case”. The defence lawyers > backed the motion. > > > > Commenting on the motion, the public prosecutor Ramazan Hadiyev said as > in the previous objection to the presiding judge, this objection was not > supported by reasonable evidence. He noted that the alignment of the > prosecutor’s and the court’s positions cannot be interpreted as the > court’s partiality. He said the objection was unfounded and requested > that it remain unconsidered. The judge broke for a deliberation to > discuss the objection. After the deliberation, the court left the motion > unconsidered. > > > > _Defence motions _ > > > > Then, Ismayilova filed a motion requesting the court to present any > contract or payment order bearing her signature. She quoted the bill of > indictment as stating that she had allegedly hired employees to Radio > Azadliq based on service contracts, enabling them to pay less tax to the > state budget. Ismayilova said there were no contracts or payment orders > bearing her signature, adding that she would welcome the opportunity to > see them in court. The prosecutor declared the motion was unfounded and > requested that it be rejected. The judge denied the motion after a short > deliberation. > > > > Subsequently, Ismayilova and her lawyer Fariz Namazli filed a motion to > question additional witnesses, namely, Interpress website editor Ramal > Huseynov, ann.az website director Naila Bagirova, and Aznews website > editor-in-chief Elchin Zahiroglu. In support of the motion, the defence > noted that Ramal Huseynov’s statement was cited in the indictment, and > he therefore had to be summoned and questioned. > > > > The judge said that while testifying in court Tural Mustafayev admitted > slandering Ismayilova, and several other witnesses also recanted their > original investigation statements defending her position. The judge said > that the fact that Mustafayev and others provided testimonies that > differed from their investigation statements would be assessed during > the court’s deliberations, and that there was no need to question > additional witnesses. > > > > Next, lawyer Javad Javadov filed a motion, which said: “The > investigative agency accuses Khadija Ismayilova of engaging in > journalistic activities without being accredited by the Ministry of > Foreign Affairs. Note that there is a presidential decree dated 2 > September 2002 on improving the rules for licensing certain types of > activities, according to which, journalistic activity does not require a > license. This is a fantasy made up by the investigative agency, which > has deemed Khadija Ismayilova’s activity to be illegal entrepreneurship. > Therefore, we request that the court send a request to the > Constitutional Court to clarify whether, according to the legislation, > journalism is an activity requiring a license”. Ismayilova supported her > lawyer’s motion, saying, “It is indeed an absolute fantasy. Your > president gathers media workers and says that you need to gain access to > the foreign press, while, on the other hand, you require a license for > working as a journalist for the foreign press”. Judge Novruz Karimov > rejected the motion . > > > > Lawyer Javad Javadov filed a motion requesting that psychiatrist Araz > Mahmudchayli be questioned as an additional witness, on the basis that > Tural Mustafayev’s ex-fiancée Rovshana Rahimli had told the court that > Mustafayev had serious mental health issues, and they had appealed to > psychiatrist Araz Mahmudchayli, who had diagnosed Mustafayev as an > incurable psychopath. The judge denied this motion as well. > > > > Lawyer Javad Javadov then noted that the documents seized during the > search in Radio Liberty’s Baku office had not been recorded separately > in the list, which constituted a gross violation of the procedural > legislation, meaning that those documents could not be regarded as > evidence. The lawyer requested that they be removed from the evidence > list. Judge Novruz Karimov rejected the motion. > > > > After that, lawyer Fariz Namazli filed a motion requesting that the > documents on the results of the on-site tax inspection conducted in the > Baku office of Radio Liberty be obtained from the Ministry of Taxes at > the request of the court, added to the case file, and examined. Judge > Novruz Karimov declared that this motion was also denied. > > Ismayilova said the court guards were interfering in her consultations > with her lawyers and requested the court to give her time for > consultations: “I am not adequately enabled to communicate with my > lawyers. I cannot consult my lawyers even while in court, as the guards > listen in on our conversations. My lawyers are hindered from giving me > documents. My right of defence is violated. On the other hand, being > brought to court every day, my right to walk in open air and to meet > with my family is also violated. I request one week from the court to > consult with my lawyers conveniently”. > > > > Ismayilova also requested that the alleged victim Tural Mustafayev be > brought to court when she would testify. She said that after other > witnesses testified, she would have some questions for the victim. She > stressed that Mustafayev’s personal presence was important, as his > representative did not possess information about his private life. > > > > The judge denied the motion, saying that Mustafayev had attended the > hearing. > > > > _Khadija Ismayilova’s testimony _ > > > > “I am charged with abuse of official powers as the head of the > representative office of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, tax evasion > and misappropriation in favour of a third party. I have not been the > head of the Azerbaijani Representation. The Baku Bureau is not the > Azerbaijani Representation. The Azerbaijani Representation has its > regulations. Management of the representation is carried out by the head > appointed by the company. I have not hired anyone. I myself was hired. I > have not signed a contract with anyone. My contract was signed by John > Kapler. There has not been such a legal entity as the Baku Bureau of > Radio Liberty. The Baku Bureau was one of the radio station’s > departments. My duties as the head of the Bureau were to produce quality > products and to effectively divide the workforce. In general, it is a > rule in the western media that there are two branches: financial and > production. I oversaw the production aspect and have not been engaged in > financial issues. Like the rest of the radio staff, I was also hired. > And I did a good job. Therefore, I have been arrested. Radio Liberty > [Radio Azadliq] has made an invaluable contribution in revealing truth > in the country. This is one of the reasons behind my arrest. > > The contacts regarding the frequencies and broadcasting were signed with > the US Broadcasting Board of Governors. The license was acquired by the > US Broadcasting Board of Governors. This institution is based in > Washington, and its head is the US Secretary of State. If you have any > comments regarding this matter, address them to John Kerry. There is no > editorial office in Azerbaijan, where there are no contract workers in > addition to full-time staff. I preferred working as a contract worker > myself after leaving the managerial position, because I wanted to be > free. I made this choice preferring freedom, and to cooperate with other > organisations. I came when I wished, and did not come when I did not > wish. I was offered to sign an employment contract as a full-time > employee, but I refused. > > What I am doing here now is proving that yoghurt is actually white, > because the prosecution has problems understanding even the simplest > issues. I understand that an order has been given for my arrest. But at > least they should have made a bit of an effort and put something > forward. They made up something in Intigam Aliyev’s case, but not in > mine. I feel hurt. You should have shown me the same respect which you > showed to Intigam Aliyev. Speaking lengthily about such simple things is > an insult to my intelligence. With such an approach to the case, you > insult my intelligence. Even the colour-blind understand that yoghurt is > white, but the employees of the prosecutor’s office do not. Did you need > to keep me in detention for eight months to understand that the Baku > Bureau is not the Azerbaijani Representation? How much did this > government need to spend to keep me in detention? By the way, by being > detained I found out secrets. For example, I learned that prisoners are > not given the meat and cheese that are meant to be given to them. It > would be better if the prosecutor’s office investigated such cases of > corruption. It was there, where I learned how and where the prosecution > authorities committed falsifications and from whom they received bribes”. > > > > Then, the judge invited Ismayilova to testify in relation to Article > 125. Ismayilova said she would not testify as long as Mustafayev’s > presence was not ensured. Mustafayev’s representative Safar Huseynov > said he could answer necessary questions, but Ismayilova objected. The > judge said that Mustafayev had answered Ismayilova’s questions in court, > and announced the notes made in the minutes. > > > > Finally, the judge declared the beginning of the document examination > stage. The next hearing was set for 19 August at 15.00. > > > > *Court partially grants only one of numerous defence motions * > > > > _Summary: Hearing 9 (19 August 2015)_ > > > > · The court examined case documents at this hearing, and the > documents in the case file were announced; > > · Khadija Ismayilova’s lawyers filed a number of motions, but only > one of them, which requested that Tax Ministry employees be summoned and > questioned as witnesses, was granted; > > · Imran Nurmammadov, a state tax inspector with the Baku Taxes > Department, was questioned as a witness. > > On 19 August, another hearing was held in the criminal case against > Khadija Ismayilova at the Baku Court of Grave Crimes. Judge Ramella > Allahverdiyeva presided over the hearing. > > > > The courtroom was again filled with people unrelated to the trial, with > many of those attempting to attend denied access. At the hearing, the > court continued to examine case documents. The court announced the > documents in the case file. Khadija Ismayilova requested that the expert > psychological opinion on Tural Mustafayev be read out in court. She said > that she had been shown that document by the investigator on the day of > her arrest. Ismayilova noted that in that document, Mustafayev was > described as having mental problems over the past two years. However, > the court could not find the said document in the case file, and stated > that it would be announced as soon as it was found. > > > > The presiding judge announced another expert opinion on Mustafayev. > According to opinion #4267 issued by expert Vusal Mammadov, the issues > that drove Mustafayev to attempt suicide were his failure to find a job, > his financial difficulties, the tension in his relationship with his > fiancée Rovshana Rahimli, the negative opinion of him generated by > rumours spread about him, and Ismayilova’s actions towards him. The > expert opinion stated that at the time of his suicide attempt, > Mustafayev had not suffered any mental illness and was able to plan his > actions carefully. > > At that point, Ismayilova noted that the motions regarding the > examination had been only partially granted,.. Moreover, said > Ismayilova, the expert opinion issued in December, which was to be > presented to the victim within 10 days according to the Criminal > Procedure Code, was given to him only in February. She noted that it was > a gross violation of the law and added, “If you accept that instance of > violation of the law as evidence, then please proceed”. > > > > Lawyer Fariz Namazli recalled that at one of the previous hearings, when > the defence filed a motion for the questioning of six witnesses, the > prosecutor said there was no need as those witnesses’ investigation > statements had been included in the case file. The lawyer then requested > that the statements and contracts of those six witnesses, Shamsaddin > Hamidov, Gulnara Babayeva, Mustajab Mammadov, Malahat Nasibova, Gular > Sadigova and Samir Hasanov, be announced. The judge said these persons > had been not interrogated as witnesses and did not have witness > statements. The judge also said that with those individuals civil > contracts had been signed, which were announced at Ismayilova’s request. > > > > Ismayilova then requested the case document, which stated that she had > signed contracts with Radio Azadliq employees Ilgar Rasulov and Rafig > Mammadov, but the court said there were no such contracts in the case > file. During the examination of the documents, it turned out that the > receipts in the case file bore the name of the Azerbaijani > representation, not of Ismayilova, who said that the Baku Bureau was > different from the Azerbaijani Representation, and could not be regarded > as the same. > > > > Ismayilova’s lawyers Fakhraddin Mehdiyev and Fariz Namazli filed a > motion requesting that Imran Nurmammadov and Elchin Aliyev, the > employees of the Baku Tax Department who had compiled the interim act > dated 19 January 2015, and Emin Ilham oglu Mammadli and Zaur Zakir oglu > Mammadov, the experts who had issued the forensic accounting opinion > #2663 dated 13 February 2015 based on that interim act, be questioned as > witnesses in court. > > The lawyers filed a second motion for the conduct of a new forensic > accounting examination. The motion was substantiated as follows: > > > > 1. The opinion states that it was not possible to identify the purpose > of a portion of the payments made by the Representation, but it is not > specified in the document /which/ payments they were, or at least the > amounts in question. > > > > 2. The opinion does not make clear the identities of the individuals - > who were not employees of the Representation – allegedly receiving these > payments. Nor is it clear how it was determined that the payments had > not been made for work or services related to the Representation’s > activities. > > > > 3. The opinion reads that from 01.01.2008 until 01.12.2014, RFE/RL.Inc > company transferred 4.621.900,0 (four million and six hundred and twenty > one thousand and nine hundred) AZN funds to the bank accounts of the > Representation. The opinion interprets this amount as income and thus a > profit tax of 154.063,3 manat is calculated. This is, at best, an > indicator of the lack of appropriate professional qualification, and at > worst a clear bias, because the 4,621,900,0 (four million and six > hundred and twenty one thousand and nine hundred) manat funds were used > to ensure the continuation of the activity of the Baku Bureau of Radio > Free Europe/Radio Liberty for 6 (six) years, used to pay the wages and > honoraria of the staff and contract workers, office rent and technical > maintenance expenses. Accordingly, no income was generated. 4. The > opinion then notes that from 01.01.2008 till 01.01.2009 the radio > broadcasted through 101.7 FM frequencies without a license, which is > presented as the grounds for declaring all its activities as unlawful. > However, the Azerbaijani Representation of the RFE/Rl.Inc Company was > registered by the Ministry of Justice of Azerbaijan Republic on 12 April > 2004 and has not been de-registered. Moreover, the radio broadcasted on > through short- and medium-wave frequencies and over the Internet. 5. As > seen from the criminal case materials, Khadija Ismayilova was not > involved in obtaining a license for the radio or extending its validity. > This was undertaken by the Broadcasting Board of Governors, which is > based in Washington, DC, and which oversaw the contracts and > correspondence with the Ministry of Communications and Information > Technologies and NTRC. Besides, Ismayilova, as seen from her employment > contract with the RFE/RL Corporation, was only involved in production > work in the Baku Bureau and was not authorized to handle financial and > administrative affairs. However, despite this fact, she was referred to > as having administrative powers and responsible for financial affairs as > the head of the Baku Bureau in the forensic accounting opinion #2663 > dated 13 February 2015. 6. This opinion is based on the interim act > dated 19 January 2015 of the experts of the Ministry of Taxes. > Apparently, the forensic accounting opinion dated 13 February 2015 is > cause for sufficient suspicion, though the evidence on which it is based > is unreliable. > > > > The next defence motion requested the inclusion in the case file of the > letter sent to Judge Ramella Allahverdiyeva and Prosecutor General Zakir > Garalov by the leadership of Radio Liberty. Commenting on the motion, > Khadija Ismayilova said: “It seems that something had to be written > about Khadija Ismayilova and so they wrote this. Everything written > there is entirely fictitious and without factual basis. Not only was I > not the head of the representation, I did not have any relations with > them at all. I headed the Baku Bureau, which is not the Azerbaijani > representation. One does not need to graduate from the university to > understand this simple fact; a 3-year school education is enough for > that. I don’t believe that the employees of the Ministry of Taxes are so > poorly educated that they cannot understand this. I know that they were > forced to write this under direction. We are here trying to prove that > yogurt is white. Unfortunately, the court will not stop repeating the > prosecutor’s opinions. I think that the verdict will also be a > repetition of the indictment bill. In fact, we don’t want to prove > anything to the court. We just want to clarify two issues for ourselves: > first, whether the court provided a reasonable opportunity for > investigation, and, secondly, the extent to of the involvement of the > whole government, including the Ministry of Taxes and Prosecutor’s > Office, in this bias. As for the motion regarding those, who compiled > that act, I just want to look them in the face”. > > > > Then lawyer Fariz Namazli filed a motion saying that the on-site tax > inspections conducted in the office of Radio Azadliq were suspended > until August 14, and on August 15 the inspection period was extended > until September 30. He wanted that decision to be included in the > evidence list. > > > > Khadija Ismayilova said that 4 of the 5 charges brought against her were > related to Radio Azadliq and though she was not responsible for > financial affairs, experts had issued opinions about alleged violations. > Expecting the prosecutor to protest the motion, Khadija Ismayilova said > she wanted to read the text of the letter written by the central > leadership of Radio Liberty: “For 8 months, the work of the Azerbaijani > representation of Radio Liberty has been paralyzed by the interference > of the Prosecutor General’s Office and Ministry of Taxes of Azerbaijan > Republic, which we consider illegal. Before the tax inspections in the > Azerbaijani representation of Radio Liberty were concluded, a criminal > case against our former colleague Khadija Ismayilova was separated from > this criminal case and sent to court. It became known that the > investigating authority, as if to underpin the incitement-to-suicide > charge filed against Khadija Ismayilova in order to arrest her, brought > the charges of misappropriation of another's property through abuse of > service powers, illegal entrepreneurship and tax evasion, which are > related to her activity in Radio Liberty. Since the latter charges are > directly related to Radio Liberty and its activities, we feel obliged to > comment on them. We view the charges filed against Khadija Ismayilova > due to her activity in the radio station as charges against our > organisation and we do not accept them. As seen from the statute of the > Azerbaijan representation of RFERL Inc. and contracts signed with the > heads of Baku Bureau of Radio Azadliq, neither Khadija Ismayilova, nor > her predecessors or successors had financial responsibility or > obligation or authority to submit financial or other reports to tax > authorities. According to another charge filed against Khadija > Ismayilova, she arranged that some individuals, who cooperated with the > radio based on service contracts, be registered to pay simplified tax > instead of income tax, and wasted and misappropriated the 10 percent > difference between the simplified tax and income tax, i.e. 17 992 60 > manat, thus committing the crime specified in Article 179.3.2 of the > Criminal Code of Azerbaijan Republic. Even if the investigation was > telling the truth, charging someone with misappropriation of property > for this action is illogical; here one could talk about only tax > evasion. It seems that such an outcome did not fit in with the plans of > the investigating authorities and they charged Khadija Ismayilova under > Article 179.3.2, which stipulates a jail sentence for a period of up to > 12 years”. > > > > The judge interrupted Khadija Ismayilova saying that the letter had been > sent to her and when she received it she would read it herself. Khadija > Ismayilova requested that the letter be included in the case file as an > addendum to her testimony, but the judge denied her motion. > > > > The prosecutor requested that the motions be rejected as unfounded. He > did not object to the questioning of the expert who had compiled the > interim act. Commenting on the letter sent by the central bureau > leadership of Radio Liberty, the prosecutor said that the letter emerged > because of the denial of the defence motion requesting that a > representative of the radio be invited to the trial. He said that the > criminal case materials did not need the recommendations made in the > letter and requested the court to reject the letter. > > > > Despite Khadija Ismayilova’s insistence, the court once again refused to > add the letter to the case file. The judge said that the letter must be > received via mail, registered in the clerical office and presented to > the judge with the court chairman’s instructions. She said that the > letter would be added to the case file when it was received by the court. > > > Then, the panel of judges broke for a deliberation to discuss the > motions. Only the motion regarding the questioning of the experts that > had compiled the interim act was partially granted by the court, and two > of the four experts, Baku Taxes Department employees Elchin Aliyev and > Imran Nurmammadov were summoned for questioning as witnesses. > > > > This was followed by a 40-minute break in the hearing. > > > > After the break, the State Tax Inspector of Baku Taxes Department, Imran > Nurmammadov, was questioned as a witness, but he could not finish his > testimony, as the working hours of the court were over. > > The next hearing was set for 20 August, 11.00am. > > > > *Protest held in support of Khadija Ismayilova * > > > > On 19 August, the next hearing was held on journalist Khadija > Ismayilova’s case in Baku Court of Grave Crimes. As in previous > hearings, no one with the exception of a few embassy representatives was > given access to the hearing. A group of journalists held a protest in > front of the court building demanding Khadija’s release. The protesters > held balloons of different colours and posters reading “Freedom to > Khadija!” > > > > The protesters were demanding and end to the government crackdown on > civil society and the release the jailed and detained journalists, human > rights defenders and political prisoners. “We’ll continue our struggle > with peaceful methods,” said the protesters. The journalists chanted > “Free Khadija!” during the protest. > > > > *Summary: Hearing 11 (21 August 2015)* > > > > · Prosecutor requested a 9-year prison sentence for Khadija > Ismayilova. > > Khadija Ismayilova’s trial continued in Baku Court of Grave Crimes on 21 > August. The presiding judge was Ramella Allahverdiyeva. > > > > _Speech by public prosecutor, _Ramazan Hadiyev > > > > “Khadija Ismayilova has abused her powers as the head of Baku Bureau of > Radio Liberty, has evaded payment of the taxes specified in Article 101 > of Tax Code, and by signing service contracts with employees has enabled > them to underpay their taxes. However, Khadija Ismayilova did not plead > guilty to any of the charges. During the course of the trial, Aynur > Imranova said that she has known Khadija Ismayilova since 2003. She had > applied to Baku Bureau of Radio Liberty for employment, but was not > successful. Later, in 2011, she told Khadija Ismayilova that she wanted > to work at Radio Liberty, but Khadija Ismayilova said she did not have > the relevant authority on this issue. By the way, I should note that > Khadija Ismayilova was indeed not entitled to hire employees in 2011. > After May 2014, Imranova did not meet with Khadija Ismayilova as their > relationship grew cold. She always sought advice from Khadija > Ismayilova, as she was a world-renowned investigative journalist. She > was the guest on the After Work radio programme several times, but apart > from that, she did not cooperate with the Radio or publish her work > there, and did not sign an employment or a service contract with the > radio. In contrast to her court testimony, in her investigation > statement Aynur Imranova stated that she had applied to Khadija > Ismayilova, because the latter was the head of Baku Bureau of Radio > Liberty. Khadija Ismayilova did not agree to give her full time > employment and suggested that she work under a service contract, but > Imranova did not accept this proposal. I call the court’s attention to > the fact that Aynur Imranova has a higher education and knows her > rights. Thus is it possible to deceive her and compel her to write > something? Absolutely not. Judging from this fact, it is possible to say > that in her testimony Aynur Imranova deliberately sought to help Khadija > Ismayilova to evade responsibility. As that part of her testimony does > not reflect the objective reality, her investigation statement should be > accepted as evidence instead of what she said in her court testimony. > > > > Testifying as a witness during the trial, Babek Bakirov said that he > started working at the Baku Bureau of Radio Liberty in September 1997, > knew Khadija Ismayilova as an influential journalist, and was appointed > as the head of the Baku Bureau in 2008, a role he held until 2010. He > noted that for those who worked at the radio based on an employment > contract, the radio paid taxes at a 14% rate, while those who worked > under a service contract paid taxes at a 4 percent rate, on an > individual basis. Esmira Javadova, who testified as a witness during the > trial, said that in 2009 she met with Khadija Ismayilova, presented her > articles and signed a service contract with her. Her monthly income was > 500-600 manat initially, later rising to about 1400 manat. She paid > simplified tax, and paid 4 percent of her income in taxes. She enjoyed > all relevant employment conditions at RL. My purpose in outlining this > is to point out that if Esmira Javadova had signed an employment > contract she would pay taxes at the 14 percent rate. In her > investigation statement, Esmira Javadova noted that Khadija Ismayilova > had recommended that she sign a service contract. This proves that > Khadija Ismayilova deliberately created conditions for tax evasion. > Javadova said in her testimony that she was forcibly summoned to give a > statement at 19.00 on a non-working day and gave her statement under > duress. However, the interrogation document shows that Esmira Javadova > was interrogated not on Saturday or Sunday, but on 20 October, which was > a working day. She changed her testimony after seeing Khadija Ismayilova > in the trial. She did not make any complaint to the prosecution > authorities with regard to the circumstances of duress. Therefore, I > believe that her investigation statement should be accepted as evidence. > > Chingiz Sultansoy, who testified in this trial, also noted that he had > signed a service contract. He stated that as his job involved editing > texts, which required him to be present in the editorial office. Under > these circumstances, the reason that a service contract was signed is > clear to everyone. The purpose was to help the radio avoid paying the > higher taxes. During the search and seizure, 12 employment record books, > stamp and seal were taken from Radio Azadliq’s office. If Baku Bureau > was not an employer, as Khadija Ismayilova said, then why were these > there? From the Interim Act and other documents it once again becomes > clear that although there were 12-14 full-time employees, there were 30 > computers in the editorial office. Service contracts were signed with > employees. During the last year under Khadija Ismayilova’s leadership, > Radio Azadliq operated without a license. > > While testifying in court, victim Tural Mustafayev tried to defend > Khadija Ismayilova by all means, saying “I don’t know” and “I wanted > this” in response to my questions. He said that he had slandered her, > but he forgot one thing. Notably, he appealed to law enforcement > agencies several times stating incontrovertible things that no one else > knew. His investigation statement was also confirmed by his ex-wife > Shafa Mustafayeva. Tural Mustafayev’s family members, as well as the > results of the forensic examination, show that he is sane and physically > and psychologically healthy. Khadija Ismayilova forced Tural Mustafayev > to become financially dependent on her. Later, Tural Mustafayev > repeatedly begged her for forgiveness in order to restore his previous > [financial] situation, but Khadija Ismayilova did not forgive him, thus > bringing him to the brink of suicide. The public threat entailed by the > offence stipulated in Article 125 of the Criminal Code is that it drives > a person to death, and is an inhuman deed. Khadija Ismayilova’s offence, > as specified in articles 179.3.2, 192.2.2, 213.1, 308.2, 125 of Criminal > Code, has been fully proven. Khadija Ismayilova must be convicted in > order to rectify the situation and ensure her rehabilitation. She must > be sentenced to 8 years in jail under article 179.3.2 of Criminal Code, > to 4 years under article 192.2.2, to 5 years under article 125, to 2 > years under article 213.1 and to 2 years under article 308.2. Thus > Khadija Ismayilova must be sentenced to 9 years in jail and incur a > 3-year ban on holding a position in a state or municipal body. Khadija > Ismayilova must serve her sentence in a prison of common regime and pay > 364 manat in judicial costs”. > > Next, the Tural Mustafayev’s representative Safar Huseynov gave a > speech. He said that he agreed with what the public prosecutor had said. > > > > The defence lawyers asked for time to prepare their speeches. > > The next hearing was set for 26 August, at 11.00am. > > *Lawyers request acquittal for Khadija Ismayilova * > > > > _Summary: Hearing 12 (26 August 2015)_ > > > > · The defence filed a motion for a new trial, which was rejected by > the court; > > · Speeches by the defence lawyers stated that the charges against > Khadija Ismayilova had not been proved and that she must therefore be > acquitted. > > On August 26, Khadija Ismayilova’s trial continued in Baku Court of > Grave Crimes. Judge Ramella Allahverdiyeva presided over the hearing. > Only three embassy representatives and pro-government media > representatives were granted access to the courtroom. > > > > _Defence motion_ > > > > The defence filed a motion for a new trial on the ground that “the > prosecutor requested a sentence for [Khadija Ismayilova] referring to > documents that were not present among the case materials”. Commenting on > the motion, the prosecutor said that the defendant and the defence had > already posed their questions and had received responses, and requested > that the motion be denied. The court agreed to consider the defendant’s > testimonies in the deliberation room. The motion was denied, and the > court invited the defence lawyers to give their speeches. > > > > _Closing speeches of lawyers_ > > > > “Article 125 of the Criminal Code of Azerbaijan Republic defines the > crime of incitement to suicide as follows: /Driving a person, who has > material, service or other dependence on the culprit, to suicide or to > attempted suicide by threats, cruel treatment or regular humiliation of > his dignity/”. > > > > > > First of all, Khadija Ismayilova did not play an instigating role in the > suicide attempt by Mustafayev Tural Bulut oglu. > > The last meeting between Khadija Ismayilova and Tural Mustafayev took > place on 9 March 2014, i.e. more than six months before the suicide > attempt. They did not communicated after that. How can a person drive > another person to suicide without communicating with him? > > > Khadija Ismayilova became acquainted with Tural Mustafayev in 2013. They > both worked at the Baku Bureau of Radio Liberty. But neither was > subordinate to or dependent upon the other, financially or otherwise. > > > > Furthermore, the “regular” aspect is also absent in this case. During a > confrontation with Khadija Ismayilova at the investigative agency, Tural > Mustafayev admitted that for more than six months he had repeatedly > tried to meet with Khadija Ismayilova and had sent numerous text > messages with this intention, however Ismayilova had not responded to > any of his messages and no meeting took place. > > > > There is no specific or objective evidence in the criminal case > materials regarding Khadija Ismayilova’s alleged intimidation of Tural > Mustafayev. > > The opinion # T 221/2014 dated 28 November 2014 of the forensic medical > examination conducted within this case shows that based on the referral > by Goychay Central Regional Hospital dated 27 October 2014, Tural > Mustafayev was admitted to Republican Psychiatric Hospital #1 for > inpatient treatment on the same day, diagnosed with “affective > personality disorder and fits of depression”. Examination and treatment > revealed that Mustafayev “suffers from depressive personality disorder > involving suicidal attempts, and during anamnesis he noted that he has > suffered from mental disorders in the past 1-2 years, outpatient > treatments have been ineffective and during this period he committed 3 > suicide attempts”. In a video message that Tural Mustafayev posted on > Youtube on 03 May 2015, he notes that he had attempted suicide and that > during the investigation of this incident by the Baku City Prosecutor’s > Office, he was forced by the first deputy prosecutor, Azer Asgarov and > investigator Vagif Suleymanov to provide a written statement declaring > that he had been driven to suicide by Khadija Ismayilova. > > > > While being questioned in court, Mustafayev said that his suicide > attempt had nothing to do with Khadija Ismayilova, and that it was > related to his ex-fiancée Rahimova Rovshane Vagif gizi, as their > relationship was tense and his mental state was unstable. He stated that > he had slandered Khadija Ismayilova. Witness Rahimova Rovshana Vagif > gizi, who also testified at the trial regarding this charge, told the > court that Tural Mustafayev’s suicide attempt had nothing to do with > Khadija Ismayilova, Tural Mustafayev suffered from the severe form of > psychopathy and was physically violent towards her on multiple > occasions, which she reported to the Interior Ministry’s 102 hotline on > 27 July and 16 October 2014. Following these calls, she was taken to the > police office together with Tural Mustafayev where statements were taken > from them. In September 2014 she accompanied Tural Mustafayev to see the > Assistant Professor of Psychiatry at Azerbaijan Medical University, Araz > Manuchohr (located at Caspian Plaza, 44 Jafar Jabbarli Street, Yasamal > District, Baku). Araz Manuchohr told Tural Mustafayev that he suffered > from a severe form of psychopathy. > > > > Witness Imranova Aynura Imran gizi gave a similar testimony, saying that > Tural Mustafayev suffered from chronic alcoholism, became aggressive > after work, and was unable to control himself. > > Mustafayev Bulut Bahadir oglu, Mustafayeva Nazakat Hasan gizi and > Mustafayeva Shafa Shahin gizi, all of whom testified as witnesses, said > that were unacquainted with Khadija Ismayilova, and that Tural > Mustayafev’s suicide attempt was related to his relationship with his > fiancée, Rovshana Rahimova. > > > > Witness Abdullayev Javid Ilgar oglu did not confirm his investigation > statement, saying that it had been given under duress. He told the court > that he had no knowledge of any link between Tural Mustafayev’s suicide > attempt and Khadija Ismayilova. > > > > Imranova Aynura Imran gizi also said that she had faced pressure while > providing her investigation statement, and had been offered well-paid > job, an apartment, etc. in return for a statement incriminating Khadija > Ismayilova. In his speech, the public prosecutor referred to the > statement contained in the indictment rather than any factual evidence > proving Ismayilova’s guilt. Khadija Ismayilova must be acquitted of > this charge,” said the lawyer. > > Fariz Namazli stated that the *Article 179.3.2 *charge against Khadija > Ismayilova is unfounded and illegal. “According to this charge, Khadija > Ismayilova has arranged that several people with whom the radio had > signed service contracts, be registered as payers of simplified tax > instead of income tax, thereby misappropriating the 10% difference > between the income tax and simplified tax, i.e. 17992,60 AZN. > > > > First of all, Khadija Ismayilova has not signed contracts with the > persons listed in the indictment, namely Hamidov Shamsaddin Rauf oglu, > Babayeva Gulnara Rafig gizi, Javadova Esmira Turab gizi, Mammadov > Mustajab Mutallim oglu, Nasibova Malahat Ibrahim gizi, Sadigova Gular > Miryahya gizi, Hasanov Samir Mammadali oglu, Zeynalov Eldar Tahir oglu, > Nasibov Ilgar Elbay oglu, Mammadli Rafig Humbat oglu and “Fargli > Dushunja” (Different Opinion) newspaper founder and chief editor Namazov > Shahvalad Abutalib oglu, and there is no evidence in the case file > proving that she did. > > > > It is evident from the contracts - presented by the defence but not > accepted or examined by the court, constituting a gross violation of the > right to a fair trial - that the contract with Javadova Esmira Turab > gizi was signed by Elizabeth Portale, an employee of Radio Free > Europe/Radio Liberty Corporation. The contract with Namazov Shahvalad > Abutalib oglu was signed by the official representative of the > Representation, Yahya Mirzayev. > > The position of the official representative of the Representation was > held by Anne Eveling until 2005, and by Yahya Mirzayev since 2005 . > > > > Generally speaking, if an individual entrepreneur builds a business > relationship based on a service contract instead of a labour contract, > this does not contravene the existing legislation, and there is no legal > provision prohibiting this practice. It is well known that, the subject > of both Article 179.3.2 and the Article 308.2 is an official. But > Khadija Ismayilova was not in charge of finances, and therefore was not > an ‘official’. While serving as the head of Baku Bureau of Radio Free > Europe/Radio Liberty, she was not responsible for finances. Her > responsibility was limited to coordinating the activities of the bureau > based on the instructions of the radio leadership. Thus she was involved > exclusively in production work. In other words, she was not entrusted > with any property-related or financial obligations. The Azerbaijani > Representation of the Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty was officially > called the Representation of the RFE/RL Inc. Company in Azerbaijan > Republic. The Statute of the Representation was registered by the > Ministry of Justice of Azerbaijan Republic on 12 April 2004. According > to the Statute, the Representation was established by the RFE/RL Inc. > Company, founded and acting in accordance with the legislation of the > Delaware State of the USA, which assumes full liability for the > Representation’s obligations. > > According to the Statute, “The Representation is not a legal entity. It > only advocates for and defends of the Company’s interests in the > Republic of Azerbaijan in a manner, which is not contrary to > Azerbaijan’s effective laws and the present statute…” The > Representation is managed by the head appointed by the Company. The > duties, functions and powers of the head of the Representation are > determined in the power-of-attorney granted by the Company. > > > > The Representation of RFE/RL Inc. Company in the Republic of Azerbaijan > is not the employer and it manifests itself on the labor contracts > signed with employees and the Amendments made to these contracts at > different times. As such, the labor relations between the employer and > employee are regulated by the Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty > Corporation. Therefore neither the head of the Baku Bureau nor the head > of the the Azerbaijani Service can be considered financially responsible > persons. Although the prosecution accuses Khadija Ismayilova of signing > service contracts with Hamidov Shamsaddin Rauf oglu, Babayeva Gulnara > Rafig gizi, Javadova Esmira Turab gizi, Mammadov Mustajab Mutallim oglu, > Nasibova Malahat Ibrahim gizi, Sadigova Gular Miryahya gizi, Hasanov > Samir Mammadali oglu, Zeynalov Eldar Tahir oglu, Nasibov Ilgar Elbay > oglu, Mammadli Rafig Humbat oglu and “Fargli Dushunja” (Different > Opinion) newspaper founder and chief editor Namazov Shahvalad Abutalib > oglu, they have not presented contracts signed with these persons as > evidence for this charge. The originals of these contracts were seized > by the investigating agency during the search of the radio’s office. > These contracts were later presented to the inspection commission > together with the documents seized from the office and were examined. > But they were not later included in the case file, because they had not > been signed by Khadija Ismayilova. Therefore the prosecution did not > include these contracts in the case file, and presented an inaccurate > and unsubstantiated picture.,” Fariz Namazli noted in his speech. > > > > This Article of the Criminal Code of Azerbaijan Republic concerns > illegal entrepreneurship, which involves generating a large amount of > income. This charge was filed against my client, because she has allegedly: > > > > 1) continued the bureau’s radio broadcasting activities from > July through December 2008 although the license granted to the Radio > Free Europe/Radio Liberty expired on 01 January 2008 and was not > extended; hired various employees; and arranged payment of money to > herself and those persons under the pretext of salaries or honoraria, > thereby generating a significant income in the amount of 256,400 (two > hundred and fifty six thousand four hundred) manat and 54 (fifty four) > gapik, through illegal entrepreneurship; and > > 2) during the period of her employment with the said bureau > based on an illegal civil contract as of 01 October 2010, [she] engaged > in illegal entrepreneurship by acting without accreditation despite > being obliged to obtain accreditation from the Ministry of Foreign > Affairs of Azerbaijan Republic in accordance with Articles 50 and 53 of > the Law on Mass Media of 07 December 1999 and the presidential decree of > 08 February 2000 regarding the application of this law; and received an > income of 79,480 (seventy nine thousand and four hundred and eighty) > manat under the pretext of a salary and honoraria, thereby making a > total income of 335, 880 (three hundred and thirty five thousand and > eighty hundred and eighty) manat 54 (fifty four) gapik between 01 July > 2008 and 01 December 2014. > > > > First of all, we should note that RFE/RL Inc. Company is a > non-commercial company and that this company is funded by the US > Congress. It has never in the history of its operations engaged in > entrepreneurial activities.. As indicated in the information published > on the radio’s website, “Radio Liberty is a non-commercial organization > financed by the US Congress”. Entrepreneurship entails completely > different notions and its characteristics have been described in various > legislative acts. The broader definition of entrepreneurship is given > in the following legal regulations: > > According to Article 1 of the Law on Entrepreneurial Activity, > entrepreneurial activity is constituted by the independently performed > activities of a person whose the main objective is the extraction of > profit (concerning individual entrepreneurs - the income) from the use > of property, production and/or sales of goods, performance of works or > rendering of services. As for the accusation related to the radio’s > functioning without a license, Radio Azadliq was broadcasted over 101.7 > FM frequency based on the special permit (license) # TR N 052 dated 07 > September 2007 issued by the National Television and Radio Council > (hereafter NTRC) of Azerbaijan Republic. > > Radio Azadliq was granted a one-year special permit (license) for radio > broadcasting by the NTRC’s decision dated 7 September 2007 of. > > > > The permit in question (license) expired on 7 September 2008. According > to the NTRC’s decision dated 30 December 2008, the FM frequency > allocated to Radio Azadliq was revoked as of 01 January 2009.[1] From > that date, Radio Azadliq ceased broadcasting over the FM frequency. It > is unclear why the indictment bill indicated that the special permit > (license) expired on 01 January 2008. As stated in Article 50 of the Law > on Mass Media, a journalist’s accreditation is not a prerequisite for > his work, but a right which accords him additional status and > opportunities. > > On the other hand, Khadija was not a foreign journalist in 2010-2014, > but simply a local freelance journalist cooperating with local and > foreign media. In this case, it is inaccurate to treat her as a foreign > journalist and to claim that she needed to be accredited with the > Ministry of Foreign Affairs. > > > > Even if we assume that Khadija Ismayilova failed to obtain accredited as > an employee of a foreign media entity, the responsibility incurred under > the Law on Mass Media would be limited to the inability to enjoy the > rights of a journalist. That is, the legislation does not even stipulate > administrative or civil liability – let alone criminal responsibility – > for the failure to gain accreditation. > > > > *a) regarding the charge brought under Article 213.1 of the Criminal > Code of the Azerbaijani Republic* > > > > According to this charge, Khadija Ismayilova, as the Baku-based bureau > head of the Azerbaijani Representation of Radio Free Europe/Radio > Liberty, engaged in activities inconsistent with the main activity and > regulations of the organisation that she represented from 01 July 2008 > to 01 October 2010; performed payments non-attributable to a > non-resident with indefinite purposes, thus evading tax payments of a > large amount, equalling 45,145 (forty five thousand and one hundred and > forty five) manat 63 (sixty three) gapik from the derived income of > 1,354,368 (one million and three hundred and fifty four thousand and > three hundred and sixty eight) manat payable to the state budget under > Articles 83.9, 103, 105 of the Tax Code of Azerbaijan Republic and > Decision #55 of 01 March 2001 and #42 of 04 April 2003 of the Cabinet of > Minister of Azerbaijan Republic. > > > > First of all, the statement “engaged in activities inconsistent with the > main activity and regulations of the organization” is unclear and vague. > As stated above, the Azerbaijani Representation of the Radio Liberty is > a non-commercial organisation, whose goal is not entrepreneurial > activity, but to support democratic values and institutions by spreading > news and ideas. > > > > On the other hand, the Azerbaijani Representation of the Radio Free > Europe/Radio Liberty – RFE/RL Inc. Company has an exemplary record in > terms of payment of taxes and compulsory social security contributions. > According to the reports compiled during the tax inspections carried out > in 2009, 2010 and 2012, no violation of law was found. The same is true > for the inspections conducted by the State Labour Inspectorate. The tax > obligations of the employees, working on the basis of labour and civil > contracts, were performed in accordance with the requirements of > Azerbaijani legislation. > > > > Finally, as a non-commercial organisation the Representation of the > RFE/RL Inc. Company in the Republic of Azerbaijan, was not liable for > profit tax. > > > > In general, the fact that the amount of 1,354,368 (one million and three > hundred and fifty four thousand and three hundred and sixty eight) manat > transferred to its account from 01 July 2008 to 01 October 2010 are > presented as income demonstrates clear prejudice [on the part of the > court], because this amount does not constitute income, but rather the > minimum operational expenses (office rent, employees’ salaries, > honoraria for service contracts, maintenance, and material and technical > costs, etc.). > > > > Moreover, the tax evasion charge cannot be filed against Khadija > Ismayilova as the head of the Baku bureau, because the Baku bureau head > did not have administrative and financial powers, nor bear the > responsibility for paying taxes and social security contributions. The > responsibility for tax evasion can be imposed on the persons who pay the > company’s taxes and submit tax > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > ... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From williams.deirdre at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 18:42:25 2015 From: williams.deirdre at gmail.com (Deirdre Williams) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 19:42:25 -0400 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [bestbits] Moving towards active development support in GLOBAL CONNECT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: An alternative view of the Global Connect Initiative. This is Part 1 of 2. Deirdre ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dave Burstein Date: 1 December 2015 at 06:56 Subject: [bestbits] Moving towards active development support in GLOBAL CONNECT To: Carolina Rossini Cc: " bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>" < bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>, "redlatam at lists.accessnow.org" < redlatam at lists.accessnow.org>, "marcocivil at listas.ensol.org.br" < marcocivil at listas.ensol.org.br>, "IP-ENFORCEMENT at ROSTER.WCL.AMERICAN.EDU" < IP-ENFORCEMENT at roster.wcl.american.edu>, "infosoc at tacd.org" < infosoc at tacd.org>, "Bhardwaj, Manu" Carolina, Manu and all Like Carolina, I apologize for any cross posting. With respect, I profoundly disagree with the U.S. approach. I will only speak briefly on this call because there is an agenda to move. I do hope you will consider a different approach, grounded in the economics and technical requirements. I'm writing about developing affordable networks for all. Human rights are also important but I bring no special expertise to that subject. Theme: *The role of Americans and I believe my government should be to support the needs of poorer countries, not to drive the agenda in our preferred paths.* First. We should recognize that the folks who have built MTN to almost 200 million subscribers know a heck of a lot more about how to build affordable networks than I do. That's true for virtually any of the other lawyers and policy people working thousands of miles away. Bharti is serving more customers than AT&T & Verizon combined. They have many peers of exceptional ability. This is just being practical and honest. Most of the real experts are not in New York or in Washington. *We should concentrate on items in our power to change,* like the cost of international transit and the taxes our giant companies do and don't pay. We should not waste our efforts on factors primarily decided domestically, like the level of taxes and subsidies or the structure of the national industry. (Africa will pass the U.S. in Internet users around 2018. With help from Cisco, I reported that in 2012, one of the first reporters to notice. India is also going to pass the U.S. in about two years. The BRICs already have more Internet users than the U.S. and the rest of Europe combined. Every quarter, the Global South is adding 10-20M more Internet users than the North.) Second. My personal belief is that *the U.S. and Americans should primarily work on what we can do*,* not what we are urging others to do.* In particular, we should change policies that divert funds from poorer countries to richer ones. Our companies need to follow principles of fair trade and dealings. They should support the economies in which they are doing business. These wouldn't seem to be particularly controversial but lead to very different policies than our current ones. -------------------------- For three years, I've been asking engineers and business people what are the largest issues raising network costs and reduce Internet use. The Africans have shown particular wisdom. This is what I've been learning. Please add your suggestions. We need a Code of Conduct here. - *High backhaul/transit costs double or triple the cost of providing broadband in most of Africa. *A megabit costs $0.50-$3 in most of the U.S. and much of Europe. The same megabit in Lagos on 2014 cost $170, 100x as much. 50-90% of the difference is cartel pricing, based on undersea costs where there is more competition. ​ ​ We should support national efforts for bargaining leverage. Our companies should not use their market power to gouge. (This is by far the largest factor driving up costs. It's the same issue the U.S. Broadband Plan discovered in most badly served rural areas. The Africans have already built dozens of IXC's. It's insulting to pretend they need us to educate them. Unfortunately, while they are generally a good tool, they rarely can solve more than 10%-20% of cost problem here.) - ​​ - *Multinational giants should pay reasonable taxes. *The U.S. should make i t so. Facebook & Google tax avoidance is far higher than their "charitable endeavors." Most African leaders will tell you they don't need charity, just a fair deal on taxes and trade. France and England can't get Google or Apple to pay taxes. What chance does Cameroon or Thailand have without strong support from the giant's home countries? Changes in telecom pricing have sucked hundreds of millions in taxes/fees and probably more from some of the poorest countries. - - Columbia Professor Raul Katz just did an important study that concluded Internet companies are making enormous profits in middle income countries. The products have mostly been developed and paid off in richer countries and at most a skeleton staff does things like sellnig some advertising. In one example, Katz found a company like Facebook is probably earning an 80% return. - - Multinationals should hire and invest in the countries in which they do business. In years gone past, companies like IBM made sure to invest where they sold. There are 130M? Facebook users in India. Many of them can code, sell and manage. Looking a little further ahead, two enormous problems are developing. - *High royalties may soon double or triple the cost of a low end smartphone. * Hundreds of millions fewer people will connect. Carlos Slim of Telmex told me at the Broadband Commission the $50 smartphone will connect two billion more people. On a mass product like a smartphone, a "reasonable" royalty would be something like 5-10%. Intel calculates royalties may soon be $140 on a mid-priced phone. On inexpensive phones, Microsoft, Qualcomm and similar royalties may be more than the total cost to build it. Every international agreement calls for "reasonable" royalties and it's time to make that so. - *Some companies have** developed enormous market power. *We all hate unnecessary regulation but also learned in our first economics class how damaging a monopoly can be. Columbia Professors Eli Noam and Raul Katz are doing seminal work on how Internet companies with scale have enormous cost advantages and have often developed "monopoly-like" pricing power. That scale will continue to make it hard or impossible for new companies to succeed. Google has a reported 90% market share in search in Europe. Facebook has more active users in India than there are broadband connections including wireless. How many substantial competitors have developed to Google and Facebook the last five years? Almost none. ------------------------------------------- While the American proposals place importance on human rights, the Core Principles do almost nothing practical for development. They need to be made concrete and clear. ​Let's look at the proposals​ > *III - Core Principles* >>> >>> The core principles of this initiative are: >>> >>> 1) Countries integrate Internet connectivity as a key part of their >>> national development strategy and budget process and consult with all >>> stakeholders in doing so; >>> >> ​Nearly every country has produced broadband plans doing just this. ICT is an enormous part of the government strategy from Rewanda​ to India tp Mexico. Ho Hum 2) International financial institutions and international development organizations prioritize digital access, including in the projects they support; ​The World Bank has done just that for over a decade.​ HoHum 3) All stakeholders promote the linkage between the use of technology, expression, transparency and innovation; and the overall social, economic, and political benefits reaped from connectivity; ​To the extent this relates to human rights, I defer to those with greater expertise. ​ 4) All stakeholders promote dialogue and action on how to harness, deploy, and enable innovative technologies to support quality, affordable and sustainable connectivity for the unconnected, particularly in power-deficient communities. The last thing we need is more dialogue. From the Internet Society to WSIS to the ITU, everybod ​y​ ​has ​talked and talked. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From williams.deirdre at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 18:45:00 2015 From: williams.deirdre at gmail.com (Deirdre Williams) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 19:45:00 -0400 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [bestbits] Followup datapoints after State Department call In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Second part of an alternative view of the Global Connect initiative. Deirdre ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dave Burstein Date: 1 December 2015 at 12:17 Subject: [bestbits] Followup datapoints after State Department call To: Carolina Rossini , "Bhardwaj, Manu" < BhardwajM at state.gov>, bestbits at lists.bestbits.net Folks I wanted to clear up some misconceptions that came up in the call, by a diplomat doing what diplomats do. If I have any of this wrong, please get back to me. I still make mistakes after 16 years in broadband. It's seriously counterproductive for the U.S. to keep telling poor countries what to do in their own country. 2/3rds of the world voted against us at the WCIT, for example, showing the depth of the resentment. The people we send generally know far less about building broadband networks than the people actually building them; our advice is often uninformed 1) That "we should share lessons from the success of the American USF program." It's generally agreed by anyone independent that the American USF program has done a terrible job of bringing broadband to rural areas. Really. If you don't believe me, consult Scott Wallsten (Chief Economist of the U.S. broadband plan), Greg Ross of Stanford, or Tom Hazlett of George Mason. They are the top academics in this field. (German regulator Matthias Kurth showed how to do it better.) 2) That we could find a way to incorporate net neutrality into the U.S. proposal. (Almost all the participants strongly supported it.) Manu couldn't do that without a complete turnaround in current State Department policy. The U.S., since at least 2012, has taken a strong position against including Net Neutrality in Internet governance. We made sure to keep it out of the ITU treaty, successfully pressed to not have it included in Net Mundial, and opposed it in the WSIS draft. The State Department position on neutrality, presented most effectively by Julie Zoller, is that we didn't think governments should get involved so it didn't belong in the governance meetings. I pointed out that Barack Obama was a strong supporter of neutrality and it was in his campaign platform. There was extensive back and forth in ITAC. 3) That the U.S. should educate poorer countries on creating an enabling environment, especially through competition. I love solving problems through competition. It is actually working quite well in most major cities in the developing world. Everyone can see it, so they don't need the U.S. to educate them. Africa and India are both about to pass the U.S. in number of Internet users. With 4G networks rapidly deploying to nearly all major cities, the key deployment problem today is reaching rural areas and those hard to serve. As the U.S. rural deployment has demonstrated, competition is highly unlikely to solve rural problems. We're talking about areas that struggle to have even one provider, much less the 4-7 normally needed for competition to do it's magic. In 2008, the U.S. had 5% of homes unserved, about ten times as many as Britain or France. 6 years later, that figure has only gone down to 4% despite $7B in stimulus that was supposed to sove that problem. ------------------------ ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Wed Dec 2 12:27:18 2015 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 12:57:18 -0430 Subject: [governance] Moving towards active development support in GLOBAL CONNECT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <565F29F6.20407@riseup.net> Dear Deirdre, Dave Burstein wrote: "... Our companies should not use their market power to gouge. ..." We are here not in the church or in any other form of theatre. There, any people can formulate this and do it. But we live in the reality and should use the reality. Never, we can realize with the companies or state institutions from Europe or North America, and also from any continent, an open and free access to the internet. We have to organize itself. In the design, it is more simple. We have only to look, what we need. In the construction, it is more difficult, because we need the technical components. And with any text on any paper or other media we never can create it. "*Some companies have** developed enormous market power. *We all hate unnecessary regulation but also learned in our first economics class how damaging a monopoly can be." Can be? We are not here in the preschool. Every monopoly is in principle a damage. That is the purpose for a monopoly. I don't understand, why you distribute this text? Maybe, you can explain me to understand. many greetings, willi Coro, Venezuela Am 01/12/2015 um 07:12 p.m. schrieb Deirdre Williams: > An alternative view of the Global Connect Initiative. > This is Part 1 of 2. > Deirdre > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dave Burstein > Date: 1 December 2015 at 06:56 > Subject: [bestbits] Moving towards active development support in GLOBAL > CONNECT > To: Carolina Rossini > Cc: " bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>" < > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>, "redlatam at lists.accessnow.org" < > redlatam at lists.accessnow.org>, "marcocivil at listas.ensol.org.br" < > marcocivil at listas.ensol.org.br>, "IP-ENFORCEMENT at ROSTER.WCL.AMERICAN.EDU" < > IP-ENFORCEMENT at roster.wcl.american.edu>, "infosoc at tacd.org" < > infosoc at tacd.org>, "Bhardwaj, Manu" > > > Carolina, Manu and all > > Like Carolina, I apologize for any cross posting. > > With respect, I profoundly disagree with the U.S. approach. I will only > speak briefly on this call because there is an agenda to move. I do hope > you will consider a different approach, grounded in the economics and > technical requirements. > > I'm writing about developing affordable networks for all. Human rights are > also important but I bring no special expertise to that subject. > > Theme: *The role of Americans and I believe my government should be to > support the needs of poorer countries, not to drive the agenda in our > preferred paths.* > > First. We should recognize that the folks who have built MTN to almost 200 > million subscribers know a heck of a lot more about how to build affordable > networks than I do. That's true for virtually any of the other lawyers and > policy people working thousands of miles away. Bharti is serving more > customers than AT&T & Verizon combined. They have many peers of exceptional > ability. This is just being practical and honest. Most of the real experts > are not in New York or in Washington. > > *We should concentrate on items in our power to change,* like the cost of > international transit and the taxes our giant companies do and don't pay. > We should not waste our efforts on factors primarily decided domestically, > like the level of taxes and subsidies or the structure of the national > industry. > > (Africa will pass the U.S. in Internet users around 2018. With help from > Cisco, I reported that in 2012, one of the first reporters to notice. India > is also going to pass the U.S. in about two years. The BRICs already have > more Internet users than the U.S. and the rest of Europe combined. Every > quarter, the Global South is adding 10-20M more Internet users than the > North.) > > Second. My personal belief is that *the U.S. and Americans should primarily > work on what we can do*,* not what we are urging others to do.* In > particular, we should change policies that divert funds from poorer > countries to richer ones. Our companies need to follow principles of fair > trade and dealings. They should support the economies in which they are > doing business. > > These wouldn't seem to be particularly controversial but lead to very > different policies than our current ones. > -------------------------- > For three years, I've been asking engineers and business people what are > the largest issues raising network costs and reduce Internet use. The > Africans have shown particular wisdom. This is what I've been learning. > Please add your suggestions. We need a Code of Conduct here. > > > - *High backhaul/transit costs double or triple the cost of providing > broadband in most of Africa. *A megabit costs $0.50-$3 in most of the > U.S. and much of Europe. The same megabit in Lagos on 2014 cost $170, 100x > as much. 50-90% of the difference is cartel pricing, based on undersea > costs where there is more competition. > ​ ​ > We should support national efforts for bargaining leverage. Our > companies should not use their market power to gouge. (This is by far the > largest factor driving up costs. It's the same issue the U.S. Broadband > Plan discovered in most badly served rural areas. The Africans have already > built dozens of IXC's. It's insulting to pretend they need us to educate > them. Unfortunately, while they are generally a good tool, they rarely can > solve more than 10%-20% of cost problem here.) > - ​​ > > - *Multinational giants should pay reasonable taxes. *The U.S. should > make i > t > so. Facebook & Google tax avoidance is far higher than their "charitable > endeavors." Most African leaders will tell you they don't need charity, > just a fair deal on taxes and trade. France and England can't get Google > or Apple to pay taxes. What chance does Cameroon or Thailand have without > strong support from the giant's home countries? Changes in telecom pricing > have sucked hundreds of millions in taxes/fees and probably more from some > of the poorest countries. > - > - Columbia Professor Raul Katz just did an important study that > concluded Internet companies are making enormous profits in middle income > countries. The products have mostly been developed and paid off in richer > countries and at most a skeleton staff does things like sellnig some > advertising. In one example, Katz found a company like Facebook is probably > earning an 80% return. > - > - Multinationals should hire and invest in the countries in which they > do business. In years gone past, companies like IBM made sure to invest > where they sold. There are 130M? Facebook users in India. Many of them can > code, sell and manage. > > Looking a little further ahead, two enormous problems are developing. > > > - *High royalties may soon double or triple the cost of a low end > smartphone. * Hundreds of millions fewer people will connect. Carlos > Slim of Telmex told me at the Broadband Commission the $50 smartphone will > connect two billion more people. On a mass product like a smartphone, a > "reasonable" royalty would be something like 5-10%. Intel calculates > royalties may soon be $140 on a mid-priced phone. On inexpensive phones, > Microsoft, Qualcomm and similar royalties may be more than the total cost > to build it. Every international agreement calls for "reasonable" royalties > and it's time to make that so. > > > > - *Some companies have** developed enormous market power. *We all hate > unnecessary regulation but also learned in our first economics class how > damaging a monopoly can be. Columbia Professors Eli Noam and Raul Katz are > doing seminal work on how Internet companies with scale have enormous cost > advantages and have often developed "monopoly-like" pricing power. That > scale will continue to make it hard or impossible for new companies to > succeed. Google has a reported 90% market share in search in Europe. > Facebook has more active users in India than there are broadband > connections including wireless. How many substantial competitors have > developed to Google and Facebook the last five years? Almost none. > > ------------------------------------------- > > While the American proposals place importance on human rights, the Core > Principles do almost nothing practical for development. They need to be > made concrete and clear. > > ​Let's look at the proposals​ > > > >> *III - Core Principles* >>>> >>>> The core principles of this initiative are: >>>> >>>> 1) Countries integrate Internet connectivity as a key part of their >>>> national development strategy and budget process and consult with all >>>> stakeholders in doing so; >>>> >>> > ​Nearly every country has produced broadband plans doing just this. ICT is > an enormous part of the government strategy from Rewanda​ to India tp > Mexico. Ho Hum > > > 2) International financial institutions and international development > organizations prioritize digital access, including in the projects they > support; > > ​The World Bank has done just that for over a decade.​ HoHum > > > 3) All stakeholders promote the linkage between the use of technology, > expression, transparency and innovation; and the overall social, economic, > and political benefits reaped from connectivity; > > ​To the extent this relates to human rights, I defer to those with greater > expertise. > > ​ > 4) All stakeholders promote dialogue and action on how to harness, deploy, > and enable innovative technologies to support quality, affordable and > sustainable connectivity for the unconnected, particularly in > power-deficient communities. > > The last thing we need is more dialogue. From the Internet Society to WSIS > to the ITU, everybod > ​y​ > > ​has ​talked and talked. > We do need action, but neither here nor in the longer version did I find > anything concrete or new likely to make much of a difference. > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 15:15:53 2015 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 12:15:53 -0800 Subject: [governance] [bytesforall_readers] 'Dear Daddy...' Max Zuckerberg's Letter back to her Father In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <065801d12d3e$3f157c50$bd4074f0$@gmail.com> From: bytesforall_readers at yahoogroups.com [mailto:bytesforall_readers at yahoogroups.com] Sent: December 2, 2015 9:57 AM To: bytesforall_readers at yahoogroups.com Subject: [bytesforall_readers] 'Dear Daddy...' Max Zuckerberg's Letter back to her Father < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/02/max_zuckerberg_reply_letter/ > 'Dear Daddy...' Max Zuckerberg's Letter back to her Father * What do you mean, I can't get off Facebook? * 2 Dec 2015 at 13:02 As told to Andrew Orlowski Comment Yesterday Mark Zuckberg accompanied the birth of his first child, a daughter Max, with a long open letter. Thanks to the miracle of modern technology, we've found what Max might write back, and we're sharing it with you: Dear Daddy Thank you for the letter that your PR and public policy team wrote to mark my Birth, and sent to every news outlet in the World. Most Daddies wouldn't do this. Heck, most Daddies don't even have PR and public policy team, and those that do wouldn't use to leverage a private family event! That's why you Daddy, are so special. You write: "We want you to grow up in a world better than ours today." Well, duh! If I discovered that my well-educated billionaire parents wanted me to grow up in a world that's worse than ours today, I'd already have crawled my way to a phone booth and dialled 911 to alert the authorities. That goes for "a world without suffering from disease” too. Wow. Where do you get this stuff, Daddy? I heard more original ideas when I was a single cell blastula! You also write: "Technological progress in every field means your life should be dramatically better than ours today." I'd like to think so too, Daddy, but there's this thing that's bothering me. It's called Facebook. And not just Facebook, it's the way Silicon Valley companies like yours pile up huge wealth by destroying value in every other part of the economy, as if technological progress were a zero sum game. It's the way you strip-mine individuals so they have no ability to be autonomous economic agents, owning and trading the stuff we make, so all we have to live on is some feudal digital plantation - and we have to be grateful for it. It's the way some Valley firms place themselves above the law and try to block the work of elected officials who want to defend human rights. Not you of course, Daddy. Just some of your friends. I mean, come on. There's a lot to teach children in this modern world I've just been born into. But one thing we've got to learn is that just because you can do something, it's not necessarily morally acceptable to do it. Who's going to teach me that in Silicon Valley? And Daddy. Connecting people all over the world through an internet website is very cool idea indeed. But it's not that cool or original. It's as if the guy who invented the bottle-opener wrote a plan to become Emperor of the World. Like, "Remind me who you are again?" I think that's pretty weird already. And I'm only one day old! Well if there's any of the economy left by the time I graduate, perhaps my generation will be a bit less selfish than yours, Daddy, and we can teach you about it. Oh. And there's one more thing. You write that: "Many of the greatest opportunities for your generation will come from giving everyone access to the internet...more than half of the world's population -- more than 4 billion people -- don't have access to the internet. If our generation connects them, we can lift hundreds of millions of people out of poverty. We can also help hundreds of millions of children get an education and save millions of lives by helping people avoid disease." It's way cool that you want to bring Facebook to people who can't afford it, Daddy. That's the most unselfish thing I've heard anyone say in my very short life so far. But there's also 1.6 billion people on the planet who don't have access to electricity, while 2.8 billion people rely on smelly and noxious biomass for cooking and fuel. How about we get them modern electricity grids and cheap reliable energy first? What's that Daddy? You think that's a good idea too? Great! So why isn't access to electricity a UN Millennium Development Goal? Rather than Access to Facebook? It's almost like we like the idea of them staying really poor. And seeing how often you call that guy you call Barry, who calls himself President, perhaps you can help get it on the agenda. Well, I'm kinda tired writing all that. It's time for nap. Just remember when you're burping me, do it over your shoulder, that way I won't puke all down your front. 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There have been no more recent uses that I know of. I have no evidence my system being used for distribution, and I have changed my email password. >From server alerts from several other lists, it seems to me that the spammer has specifically targeted people and sites in the field of Internet Governance. Has anyone else encountered this? GG -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Mon Dec 7 14:00:29 2015 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:00:29 -0500 Subject: [governance] spam/phish warning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5665D74D.7020803@mail.utoronto.ca> Odd, I did not get it till yesterday. Ignored it for obvious reasons... Good luck with it! cheers Stephanie Perrin On 2015-12-07 13:28, Garth Graham wrote: > Apologizes, but my email address was recently harvested. The spammer used it to post to this list Sun, 6 Dec 2015 06:41:24 +0100, under the subject heading “Fw; important message.” Do NOT open the link in that message. The site it links to is loaded with malware. > > There have been no more recent uses that I know of. I have no evidence my system being used for distribution, and I have changed my email password. > > From server alerts from several other lists, it seems to me that the spammer has specifically targeted people and sites in the field of Internet Governance. 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GDCO is the winner of information for development award (i4d 2007 awards e-India) for the inclusion of the disabled, GDCO is the winner of i4d 2008 awards for the best innovations at the grassroots Telecentres and the winner of i4d 2009 for the initiatives of civil society for development (e-agriculture project and other e-services).. ..it is the winner of eWorld award 2011. it is the winner of best innovative NGO working on ICT for community development in Sudan. The winner of best album in Telecentre 2011 Philippines .. it the founder of the first Telecentre academy in Africa and middle east and the thirteen in world ..The Digital City of Eindhoven (DSE) Netherlands (the founder and well-known partner of GDCO in Netherlands) donated 750 computers and more than ten projects were established using ICT for community development and one of them is e-agriculture. GDCO & SPEG (foundation of eindhoven volunteers for gedaref projects) started new partnership for community development including people with disability (especially deaf), gedaref university, (faculty of medicine) e-agriculture, SeVO and other project On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Garth Graham wrote: > Apologizes, but my email address was recently harvested. The spammer used > it to post to this list Sun, 6 Dec 2015 06:41:24 +0100, under the subject > heading “Fw; important message.” Do NOT open the link in that message. The > site it links to is loaded with malware. > > There have been no more recent uses that I know of. I have no evidence my > system being used for distribution, and I have changed my email password. > > From server alerts from several other lists, it seems to me that the > spammer has specifically targeted people and sites in the field of Internet > Governance. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From raquino at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 15:32:01 2015 From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 17:32:01 -0300 Subject: [governance] IGC meeting in Joao Pessoa In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi I've contributed only now the document regarding IGC IGF meeting and further steps for the community My contribution was fairly short and I paste it here "It would be interesting to enhance participation in IGC Caucus to allow members to take on specific tasks. Also, mentors for the newcomers would be quite welcome. I’ll keep on posting requests for that. Arsene’s proposals maybe could also be addressed in this fashion (decentralizing members participation) Is there a hashtag for IGC?" I'm also going to WSIS+10 next week and if there are other IGC members there, it would be great to connect and maybe work on a report for the list. The document I've contributed to is in this address https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wa-m2oWFdvPQ7t6cDu4R32tTgrX3Tud4mbZQJT0W5fE/edit []s Renata On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Wisdom Donkor wrote: > Master please look for me. > > WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.) > ICANN Fellow / ISOC Member > Web/OGPL Portal Specialist > National Information Technology Agency (NITA) > Ghana Open Data Initiative (GODI) > Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana > Tel; +233 20 812881 > Email: wisdom_dk at hotmail.com > wisdom.donkor at data.gov.gh > wisdom.dk at gmail.com > Skype: wisdom_dk > facebook: facebook at wisdom_dk > Website: www.nita.gov.gh / www.data.gov.gh > www.isoc.gh / www.itag.org.gh > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Sonigitu Ekpe wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> Please accept my apologies for arriving very late when the meeting had >> ended. >> >> My proposal: >> >> The IGC is such a unique network and has contributed greatly to >> discussions around the evolution of the Internet. Is it possible to move >> its status by incorporating it? >> >> If yes. Then lets explore mechanisms that will make it possible to set >> out a review of its charter to reflect possibilities of harnessing the vast >> resources around the corners for stronger support. >> >> Hope to continue the discussions with responses from great fellows and >> friends. >> >> Warm regards >> >> Sonigitu Ekpe >> >> Mobile +234 805 0232 469 Office + 234 802 751 0179 >> "LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving" >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Deirdre Williams < >> williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Dear Izumi, >>> Thank you very much. >>> I will add my notes to these, and invite and encourage those who were >>> present at the meeting to do the same. >>> Thank you also to all of those who came to the meeting. >>> My apologies to Antonio - I tried to contact your hub as the meeting >>> started, but without success. >>> Finally I suggest that in the process of reviewing the World Summit on >>> the Information Society (WSIS), and in considering the future of the IGC, >>> it may be useful to revisit the contribution made then by civil society >>> >>> . >>> I wish you could all be here with us >>> Deirdre >>> >>> On 11 November 2015 at 12:38, Izumi AIZU wrote: >>> >>>> This is my personal note of IGC meeting at IGF 10, until my leaving the >>>> room now. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wa-m2oWFdvPQ7t6cDu4R32tTgrX3Tud4mbZQJT0W5fE/edit >>>> >>>> izumi >>>> >>>> >>>> 2015-10-31 21:14 GMT-03:00 Deirdre Williams >>> >: >>>> >>>>> Dear IGC members, >>>>> >>>>> Deirdre heard late Thursday afternoon that she will have funding to >>>>> attend IGF 2015 in Joao Pessoa. Through the good offices of Eleonora we >>>>> have a meeting room – Bilateral Room 3 – on Wednesday 11th November >>>>> (Day 2) from 12.00 to 1300. Could you please indicate whether you will be >>>>> willing and able to attend a face to face meeting of the IGC at that date >>>>> and time? >>>>> >>>>> Whether you will be in Brazil or not we would be grateful for input >>>>> for an agenda. Please remember that we have only one hour for the meeting. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> >>>>> Deirdre and Analia >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir >>>>> William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >> Izumi Aizu << >>>> Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo >>>> Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, >>>> Japan >>>> www.anr.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir >>> William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ignored it for obvious reasons... > Good luck with it! > cheers Stephanie Perrin > > On 2015-12-07 13:28, Garth Graham wrote: > > Apologizes, but my email address was recently harvested. The spammer used it to post to this list Sun, 6 Dec 2015 06:41:24 +0100, under the subject heading “Fw; important message.” Do NOT open the link in that message. The site it links to is loaded with malware. > > There have been no more recent uses that I know of. I have no evidence my system being used for distribution, and I have changed my email password. > > From server alerts from several other lists, it seems to me that the spammer has specifically targeted people and sites in the field of Internet Governance. Has anyone else encountered this? > > GG > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- *Independent Consultant* c/o DFID-Southern Africa, 255 Hill Street, Pretoria 0002, Republic of South Africa Skype: yassinmshana1, Mobile:+2773 079 6267 , Fax: +27 (012) 421 7500 "The illiterates of the 21st century are not those who cannot read or write but those who cannot learn, relearn and unlearn" Alvin Toffler -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jefsey at jefsey.com Wed Dec 9 15:32:58 2015 From: jefsey at jefsey.com (JFC Morfin) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 21:32:58 +0100 Subject: [governance] The decentralization of IP addresses Message-ID: At 18:59 29/11/2015, Jean-Christophe Nothias wrote: >Third, challenging the Internet architecture seems to be a red line, >something that no multistakeholder/status quo champion could ever >discuss, debate, think of. They should think twice. And not because >of the ITU, but >1. because of the US obstructive stance, >2. and because technology calls for innovation and disruption JC, Let me be clear about this in order to not create unnecessary confusion or dispute. The red line is about the Internet medium layer architecture vs its Catenet basis. This is not a question of technical dogma but rather of technical focus, options, experience, capacity and societal/political stability. A. I will explain why it is a UNIX/NETIX perspectives opposition B. I will shortly explain the root of the confusion C. I will explain the current open trend D. I will eventually consider Willi's position A. the UNIX/NETIX opposition The internet (cf. IEN 48 https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien48.txt) has architected the Internet project as the ARPANET catenet, along the Louis Pouzin terminology understood by ARPA as "roughly [meaning] "the collection of packet networks which are connected together."" Vint explains that it is not enough for a practical implementation and sets the objectives and constraints of an ARPANET catenet internetting. He then documents his own objectives. There are two targets and one key contribution. 1. Vint Cerf's first objective (specific to the internet use of the catenet): to permit the internal technology of a [TCP/IP] data network to be optimized for local operation and to be readily interconnected into an organized catenet. This means that everyone must use an inter-network optimized technology. And the IP local addressing scheme must extend to the global network. This differs from the two other parallel contributions: 1.1. by the ITU: to build a catenet through an external technology (X.75) optimized to support local technology interconnections, with a local technology (X.25) optimized to use that international technology and using its global purpose X.121 addressing scheme. 1.2. by Tymnet (which was the only internationally used technology from 1977 to 1987) of which architecture used a meta-technology and addressing scheme approach to interconnect every local and international protocol and addressing scheme, and eventually services (my responsibility). 2. Vint Cerf's fundamental contribution This is Vint's main contribution because it is universal. He states: "The term "local" is used in a loose sense, here, since it means "peculiar to the particular network" rather than "a network of limited geographic extent." A satellite-based network such as the ARPA packet satellite network, therefore, has "local" characteristics (e.g. broadcast operation) even though it spans many thousands of square miles geographically speaking." This, together with Louis Pouzin's catenetting actually defined glocality as a local virtual network global reach. I.e. what I call a VGN (virtual glocal network). This is something difficult for IETF people to consider because they are only referred to twice in RFCs as being outside of the "end to end". 2.1. In RFC 1958 (internet architecture): "The network's job is to transmit datagrams as efficiently and flexibly as possible. Everything else should be done at the fringes." 2.2. In RFC 5895 (mapping characters in IDNA2008): "It should be noted that this document does not specify the behavior of a protocol that appears "on the wire". It describes an operation that is to be applied to user input in order to prepare that user input for use in an "on the network" protocol. As unusual as this may be for a document concerning Internet protocols, it is necessary to describe this operation for implementors ... This because local typing, etc. is to be supported by local subsidiarity in order "to reduce the surprise for users and is likely to be slightly (or sometimes radically) different depending on the locale of the user". This means that mapping/unmapping is to happen outside "of the wire" (end to end), at the fringe. IDNA2008 may call for fringe to fringe operations. Those are "OSI presentation layer six" operations. However, there is no "presentation layer six" in the internet layer stake. Hence, the possibility of presentation layer six based "network application services". I called them "Extended Services" in 1984, when I created the Tymnet/Extended Services department. They came above the TCP like internet "value added" services, above the IP like catenet "basic services". Problem: one of the T/ES services was to transparently map 17 million IP addresses (RFC 923) to X.121 addresses in order to deploy its global applications as network open services rather than edge proprietary businesses. This extended addressing service not only allowed global competition with the US, but it also put the Internet in bad shape because the presentation layer six concerns security, languages, and intelligent exchanges (through formats). The issue was architectonical: was EDP to be computer (US UNIX industry) or network (Tymnet/PTT NETIX) centered? In addition, it was a national security issue: UNIX internet systems had no protection against non-US protected accesses established through T/ES. It was also a strategic political/industrial issue within the deregulation context where AT&T was dismantled, killing its own X.25 technology development. Tymnet then started proposing X.75/TCP/IP/Tymnet technology to the seven FCC regulated "Baby Bells" (Regional Bell Operating Companies) the same as they had already leased and operated the five FCC regulated IRCs (international records carriers) and all the other foreign Operators and PTTs (except BT) throughout the world. As a result, the Tymnet 100% parent company was purchased by McDonnell Douglas, the military-industrial leader of the time. They closed my T/ES by mid-1986 and sent their own people to the first IETF meeting. The digisphere had to be NSA-compatible. 3. Vint Cerf's second objective Vint Cerf's second motivation was "to allow new networking technology to be introduced into the existing catenet while remaining functionally compatible with existing systems. This allows for the phased introduction of new, and obsolescence of old, networks without requiring a global simultaneous change." In blunt and clear words, it was to seamlessly expand new TCP/IP features in order to compete and overcome the Tymnet and ITU's X.75/25 capabilities. In other words, to do worse than me! They fired me and froze Vint's ambitions: this was the "statUS-quo" strategy. However, Vint Cerf persisted, created ISOC, chaired ICANN, and joined Google. His TCP/IP technology was more adequate to handle open source than Tymnet and more versatile that the ITU approach. It called for 25 years but he eventually reached the verges of his second objective, powerfully threatening the status quo. While the WCIT was to show that the various foreign NSAs objected to the US NSA's global surveillance. As a result, the State Department supported the ISOC/GSN cooperation, the OpenStand statement, the minority vote in Dubai, the Snowdenia, the NTIA statement, the Lynn St Amour/Don Tapscott report, etc. that eventually led to the ICANN reshuffling, and to Jari Arko's 2015/01/08 blog post stating : "Our work is not yet complete. There are a number of steps still in front of us. They include the following: * Both the numbers and names communities need to complete their proposals. We at the IETF will continue to engage with them with their work, just as they assisted us with ours. * Later, the IANA Transition Coordination Group (ICG) will assemble a complete proposal and gather community feedback on the result. When ready, they will submit the final proposal to the NTIA. * The NTIA must then consider and approve the proposal. * Finally, it must be implemented. " An IETF/WG on the IANA Transition had supported this IETF allegiance to the NTIA, hence its decision to become the technical body of the "GAFAMUSCC" RFC 6852 "global community" embracing "a modern paradigm for standards where the economics of global markets, fueled by technological advancements, drive global deployment of standards regardless of their formal status. In this paradigm standards support interoperability, foster global competition, are developed through an open participatory process, and are voluntarily adopted globally. These voluntary standards serve as building blocks for products and services targeted at meeting the needs of the market and consumer, thereby driving innovation. Innovation in turn contributes to the creation of new markets and the growth and expansion of existing markets." I appealed this with the IESG and IAB in order to make sure that this was the true consensual decision of the IETF. http://iuwg.net/index.php/History#Evolution. With the consequence documented there: the decision to start an XLIBRE (http://xlibre.net) RFC 6852 global community for those wishing to research and test aside from the US/Google technically correct use of the world digital ecosystem. Thinking of themselves as their own VGN masters or Intelligent, Internet Users (IUsers), rather than as ICANN (IN) DNS Class consumers. B. The root of the confusion The root of the confusion is that, as I indicated it, the ARPA, Tymnet and PTT models covered both the lower and upper layers. Therefore, people used PSS (packet switch PTT services) and the Internet as a global digital solution without differentiating the layers. This was increased by the habit to confuse the internet and the web. Today, most of the World Digital Ecosystem Governance considerations are internet centric. With laws around the world not making a difference between "Internet", "the Internet", "the internet" and "internet" for what is actually the Catenet Model for the ARPANET-internetworking. In addition, there is an addressing system confusion between centralized (Copernican, geocentric), decentralized (Newtonian, heliocentric) for what is distributed (Einsteinian, cosmological). C. The current open trend There certainly is a US effort to build on the 1986/2012 momentum to keep industrial, commercial, and political control of the WDE (world digital ecosystem). However, experience and technology show that this is a BUG. This bug is to want to "Be Unilaterally Global". This was a 1986 misunderstanding due to the 1977 push to the international catenet given by the FCC (VAN license to Tymnet and Telenet and naming to Tymnet). However, this was only a US "go" that matched the European "OKs" simultaneously gathered by Robert Tréhin (head of the Tymnet European Operations, TEO) in building the public catenet. In essence, an international network is multilateral. Communications' multilaterality is managed by the ITU. When we interconnected the Internet catenet to the public global catenet, the US had to protect it from the non-UNIX systems. This led to the US strategy of replacing the ITU by the NTIA. Firewalls have been deployed. IAB has eventually engaged in working on a secure protocol stack. It is time now for the BUG to be fixed. Actually this is urgent. Before the IoT deploys significantly because, by nature, it has to be BUG proof. No one anywhere in the world wants their fridge to be under US NSA and Google surveillance. However, the way it is made must not hurt the network development and stability. So Vint Cerf's second objective can only be deployed by subsidiarity. To develop and deploy additional compatible services that will eventually be able to replace the existing architecture. The XLIBRE trend seems to be to: 1. capitalize on IP for the catenet for the basic services. 2. consider alternatives to the internet "TCP" added value. This has started with XMPP, named content networking, SDN, etc. 3. develop and deploy "intersem" extended services experiments for a multi-vendor LIBRE (LIBRE even of the Libre) smart interoperability. The interest of this is that it respects the experience acquired since the late 1960s. This is what I call "reconsiderative" innovation, which is neither "incrementative" nor disruptive. If I would start it all again, how would I do it, now that I can use all that I have learned and others have developed since then? D. Willi's position More often than notWilli's position does not make IETF technical sense. There are two ways to react: - In bashing Willi for his lack of technical understanding. - In protesting against the IETF for not publishing standards that: --- Either permit developers to meet Willi's technical needs --- Or documenting their RFCs within a graded framework the first layer of which is understandable by Internet Users (IUsers) without needing to be smart Intelligent Users (IUsers). You will note that my language uses the same term ("IUser") in both cases, and in many other cases such as is the case for (http://xlibre.net/index.php/IUse) individual, informed, independent, innovative, industrious, inventive, insatiable, imaginative, impartial, impecunious, inevitable, inflexible, insisting, insupportable, inexhaustible, ingenious, interactive, interdisciplinary, interested, interrogator, interventionist, irreducible, irritating, etc. lead user. For a merchant, the customer is the problem, for a technician it is the user. And the customer and the user are king. I am not sure I understand what Willi may ask, but I am sure I am to consider it carefully because IETF and technically correct people are sustainable and "incrementative", Willi asks us to be disruptive and what I call reconsiderative. By the way, this is what the IAB reconsideration of the protocol stack is exactly about. The real need is for all of the Willis of the world, which Willi represents, feel that their dataspheres are secure, at ease with their networking experience, and the master of their own glocal digitality. jfc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They should think twice. And not because of the ITU, but > >> 1. because of the US obstructive stance, >> 2. and because technology calls for innovation and disruption and 3. Because technology calls for people with an awareness of the technology to discuss it, and enough awareness of technology and its architecture to suggest viable alternatives. This is not something I would encourage you to attempt if your sole experience with the internet is checking your email or possibly operating a small mailserver for friends and family on a linux server. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This post highlights the changes in the latest draft and the key issues that remain in each section. As you may be aware, comments are being received at ungawsisreview at un.org. We hope that the post will help identify some of the key issues remaining and help stakeholders contribute to the review process. We welcome any feedback that you may have. Apologies for cross-posting. Thanks and regards Gangesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Varma wrote: > Dear All, > > While the final negotiations of the WSIS+10 Review are underway please > find CCG"s analysis of the 7 December draft outcome document here > . > This post highlights the changes in the latest draft and the key issues > that remain in each section. > > As you may be aware, comments are being received at ungawsisreview at un.org. > We hope that the post will help identify some of the key issues remaining > and help stakeholders contribute to the review process. 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Varma < gangesh.varma at nludelhi.ac.in> wrote: > Dear All, > > While the final negotiations of the WSIS+10 Review are underway please > find CCG"s analysis of the 7 December draft outcome document here > . > This post highlights the changes in the latest draft and the key issues > that remain in each section. > > As you may be aware, comments are being received at ungawsisreview at un.org. > We hope that the post will help identify some of the key issues remaining > and help stakeholders contribute to the review process. We welcome any > feedback that you may have. > > Apologies for cross-posting. > > Thanks and regards > > Gangesh > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We received lots of requests for it, so we’re happy to announce that we have extended the program session submission deadline until Monday, December 14, 2015! Confirmed Speaker Highlights (To Date) - David Kaye , UN Special Rapporteur on the Right to Freedom of Opinion and Expression - Nicole Wong , Former US Deputy CTO, Legal Director for Products @Twitter, VP & Deputy GC for Google - Salil Shetty , Secretary General of Amnesty International, and former Director of the United Nations Millennium Campaign - Bruce Schneier , Internationally renowned security technologist, cryptographer, privacy specialist, and author of 13 books - Eileen Donahoe , Director of Global Affairs at Human Rights Watch, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations - Matthew Prince , Co-Founder and CEO of CloudFlare, a website performance and security service that processes more than 5% of global web requests - Judith Lichtenberg , Executive Director at Global Network Initiative, previously Head of Regulatory Affairs & Digital Rights at Vodafone Netherlands - Ron Deibert , Director of the Citizen Lab, renowned author (including Access Controlled), and founder of Psiphon, one of the world’s leading digital censorship circumvention services - Stephen Lowe , Head of Business and Human Rights/Freedom of Expression Team, Human Rights and Democracy Department, UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office - Ejim Dike , Executive Director of the US Human Rights Network, and former Director of the Human Rights Project at the Urban Justice Center. - Dan Bross , Senior Director of Corporate Citizenship at Microsoft - Joe Cannataci , UN Special Rapporteur on the Right to Privacy - Cindy Cohn , Executive Director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) - Chris Riley , Head of Public Policy, Mozilla - Paul Nemitz , Director for Fundamental Rights and Union Citizenship, European Commission. - Esra'a Al Shafei, Founder and director of Mideast Youth, a network of online platforms marginalized voices throughout the Middle East and North Africa, Bahrain - Yasmin Green , Head of Research and Development for Google Ideas - Jillian York , Director for International Freedom of Expression Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) - Barton Gellman , Journalist, bestselling author, and Pulitzer Prize-winner on the global surveillance disclosure - Morgan Marquis-Boire , Director of Security for First Look Media, contributing writer for The Intercept, and Senior Researcher and Technical Advisor at the Citizen Lab - Walid Al-Saqaf , Board Trustee for the Internet Society (ISOC) - Lisl Brunner , Facilitator for the Telecommunications Industry Dialogue at The Global Network Initiative - Chinmayi Arun , Research Director of Centre for Communication Governance, National Law University, Delhi - Kenneth Carter , Counsel at CloudFlare, a website performance and security service that processes more than 5% of global web requests - Rebecca MacKinnon , Author of Consent of the Networked, Co-founder of Ranking Digital Rights, GNI and Global Voices - Esther Dyson , Entrepreneur, angel investor, and Principal of EDventure Holdings - Ronaldo Lemos , founder of the Center for Technology & Society at the Fundação Getulio Vargas (FGV) Law School Brazil - Christian Dawson , Chairman and co-founder of the Internet Infrastructure Coalition (i2Coalition) - Nicole Karlebach , Senior Legal Counsel, Business & Human Rights at Yahoo - Kevin Bankston , Director of the Open Technology Institute (OTI) at New America - Andrew Puddephat, Director, Global Partners and Associates - Katie Shay , Legal Counsel, Business & Human Rights at Yahoo - Brett Solomon , Executive Director and Co-founder, Access Now - Elinor Buxton, ‎Senior Cyber Research Analyst at Foreign and Commonwealth Office, UK Government - Eve Chaurand , General Counsel, Change.org, an online petition tool with over 100 million users - Wesley Diphoko , Founder of KayalabsOnline, an ICT4Development NGO based in South Africa - Ben Rowswell , Canada’s Ambassador to Venezuela, former chargé d’affaires in Baghdad/ deputy head of mission in Kabul, Afghanistan - Andrew McLaughlin , entrepreneur-in-residence at betaworks, former Deputy CTO at the White House, and former Director of Global Public Policy at Google. - David Pashman , General Counsel at Meetup, co-chair of policy committee of NY Tech Meetup. - Keith Winstein , Stanford Secure Internet of Things Project - Jochai Ben-Avie , Senior Global Policy Manager at Mozilla, former Policy Director at Access Now If you have any questions please feel free to ask Access Now's Rightscon Coordinator Nick ( conference at accessnow.org.) or if you prefer to email me on (ephraim at accessnow.org) -- Best Regards, ​​ *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito* Website: http://about.me/ekenyanito Twitter: @ekenyanito PGP: E6BA8DC1 ​Blog: https://thediaryofaglobalcitizen.wordpress.com/ View this email in your browser Dear friends, As someone who has participated in RightsCon in the past, we wanted to provide you with the opportunity to help shape the agenda of the world's leading conference on the future of the internet. *Due to popular demand, we've extended our program session submission deadline to Monday, December 14th.* That means now is your time to act quickly and help shape the agenda at RightsCon Silicon Valley 2016. You can submit your program session or Demo Room proposal , and find our special ticket discount policy for session organizers and speakers, on our website. *Who you're joining: RightsCon speakers to date* RightsCon 2016 is shaping up to be better than ever, with some of the world's leading experts on technology and human rights confirmed to speak - including *Bruce Schneier* (renowned security expert), *Nicole Wong* (former US Deputy CTO), *Salil Shetty* (Secretary General of Amnesty International), *Mathew Prince* (Co-Founder and CEO of CloudFlare), and many more. See here for our complete confirmed speakers list to date! *For more information on tickets, registration, and more* Visit our ticket and event info page to find more information about our official venue, or contact me at nickd at accessnow.org with any questions you may have. Looking forward to seeing how your submissions will help shape the RightsCon program! Best wishes, Nick Dagostino, RightsCon Coordinator P.S. 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First, a reference to Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) which remains in square brackets and second the hosting of the NETMundial Initiative which is suggested for closure. In light of these two additions, the absence [or avoidance] of any mention of ICANN and the IANA Transition Process becomes apparent." Quoting para 59 of the draft: "59. We welcome the successful hosting by Brazil of the NETMundial Global Multistakeholder Meeting on the Future of Internet Governance in Sao Paulo on 23 and 24 April 2014. [Suggested for Closure]" Please note the reference in the above para of the draft has nothing to do with the so-called NETmundial Initiative. fraternal regards --c.a. On 10-12-15 05:03, Gangesh S. Varma wrote: > Dear All, > > While the final negotiations of the WSIS+10 Review are underway please find > CCG"s analysis of the 7 December draft outcome document here > . > This post highlights the changes in the latest draft and the key issues > that remain in each section. > > As you may be aware, comments are being received at ungawsisreview at un.org. > We hope that the post will help identify some of the key issues remaining > and help stakeholders contribute to the review process. We welcome any > feedback that you may have. > > Apologies for cross-posting. > > Thanks and regards > > Gangesh > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- Carlos A. Afonso Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br CGI.br - http://cgi.br GPG 0x9EE8F8E3 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jefsey at jefsey.com Fri Dec 11 08:52:11 2015 From: jefsey at jefsey.com (Jefsey) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 14:52:11 +0100 Subject: [governance] The decentralization of IP addresses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 21:38 09/12/2015, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: >>On 10-Dec-2015, at 2:02 AM, JFC Morfin >><jefsey at jefsey.com> wrote: >> >>At 18:59 29/11/2015, Jean-Christophe Nothias wrote: >>>Third, challenging the Internet architecture seems to be a red >>>line, something that no multistakeholder/status quo champion could >>>ever discuss, debate, think of. They should think twice. And not >>>because of the ITU, but >> >>>1. because of the US obstructive stance, >>>2. and because technology calls for innovation and disruption > >and 3. Because technology calls for people with an awareness of the >technology to discuss it, and enough awareness of technology and its >architecture to suggest viable alternatives. This is not something >I would encourage you to attempt if your sole experience with the >internet is checking your email or possibly operating a small >mailserver for friends and family on a linux server. Dear Suresh, I was not specifically refering to you. However, if you read the part on Willi, I am sure you will understand why you and everyone can/should contribute. We all agree that the internet technology is the implemetation of a least ambitious initial architecture that was definitly planned to robustly upgrade. This did not occur yet, but IAB and IRTF have now engaged work into that direction. The IAB work could be interesting to follow for internet minded activists to better understand the possibilities of evolution of the internet approach https://www.iab.org/activities/programs/ip-stack-evolution-program/ Many in here are certainly internet fluent enough to share in the IRTF research group on human rights https://github.com/nllz/IRTF-HRPC Cheers ! jfc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Gangesh On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Carlos Afonso wrote: > Hi Gangesh, > > Thanks for the very helpful analysis of the Dec.07 draft. > > From the reference to NETmundial in your good document, I quote: > > "Two interesting additions have been made in this section. First, a > reference to Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) which remains in square > brackets and second the hosting of the NETMundial Initiative which is > suggested for closure. In light of these two additions, the absence [or > avoidance] of any mention of ICANN and the IANA Transition Process > becomes apparent." > > Quoting para 59 of the draft: > > "59. We welcome the successful hosting by Brazil of the NETMundial > Global Multistakeholder Meeting on the Future of Internet Governance in > Sao Paulo on 23 and 24 April 2014. [Suggested for Closure]" > > Please note the reference in the above para of the draft has nothing to > do with the so-called NETmundial Initiative. > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > > On 10-12-15 05:03, Gangesh S. Varma wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > While the final negotiations of the WSIS+10 Review are underway please > find > > CCG"s analysis of the 7 December draft outcome document here > > < > https://ccgnludelhi.wordpress.com/2015/12/09/wsis10-review-process-update-dissecting-the-draft-outcome-document/ > >. > > This post highlights the changes in the latest draft and the key issues > > that remain in each section. > > > > As you may be aware, comments are being received at > ungawsisreview at un.org. > > We hope that the post will help identify some of the key issues remaining > > and help stakeholders contribute to the review process. We welcome any > > feedback that you may have. > > > > Apologies for cross-posting. > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > Gangesh > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > -- > Carlos A. Afonso > Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br > CGI.br - http://cgi.br > > GPG 0x9EE8F8E3 > -- Gangesh Sreekumar Varma | Senior Fellow Centre for Communication Governance | National Law University, Delhi | Sector-14, Dwarka, New Delhi - 110078 | Cell: (+91) 8447159123 | Fax: (+91) 11-280-34256 | www.ccgdelhi.org . www.ccgtlr.org . www.nludelhi.ac.in | Twitter: @ccgdelhi . @gangeshvarma -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've edited the post > accordingly. > > Best > > Gangesh > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Carlos Afonso wrote: > >> Hi Gangesh, >> >> Thanks for the very helpful analysis of the Dec.07 draft. >> >> From the reference to NETmundial in your good document, I quote: >> >> "Two interesting additions have been made in this section. First, a >> reference to Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) which remains in square >> brackets and second the hosting of the NETMundial Initiative which is >> suggested for closure. In light of these two additions, the absence [or >> avoidance] of any mention of ICANN and the IANA Transition Process >> becomes apparent." >> >> Quoting para 59 of the draft: >> >> "59. We welcome the successful hosting by Brazil of the NETMundial >> Global Multistakeholder Meeting on the Future of Internet Governance in >> Sao Paulo on 23 and 24 April 2014. [Suggested for Closure]" >> >> Please note the reference in the above para of the draft has nothing to >> do with the so-called NETmundial Initiative. >> >> fraternal regards >> >> --c.a. >> >> On 10-12-15 05:03, Gangesh S. Varma wrote: >> > Dear All, >> > >> > While the final negotiations of the WSIS+10 Review are underway please >> find >> > CCG"s analysis of the 7 December draft outcome document here >> > < >> https://ccgnludelhi.wordpress.com/2015/12/09/wsis10-review-process-update-dissecting-the-draft-outcome-document/ >> >. >> > This post highlights the changes in the latest draft and the key issues >> > that remain in each section. >> > >> > As you may be aware, comments are being received at >> ungawsisreview at un.org. >> > We hope that the post will help identify some of the key issues >> remaining >> > and help stakeholders contribute to the review process. We welcome any >> > feedback that you may have. >> > >> > Apologies for cross-posting. >> > >> > Thanks and regards >> > >> > Gangesh >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ >> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. >> > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: >> > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits >> > >> >> -- >> Carlos A. Afonso >> Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br >> CGI.br - http://cgi.br >> >> GPG 0x9EE8F8E3 >> > > > > -- > > Gangesh Sreekumar Varma | Senior Fellow > Centre for Communication Governance | National Law University, Delhi > | Sector-14, Dwarka, New Delhi - 110078 | Cell: (+91) 8447159123 | Fax: > (+91) 11-280-34256 | www.ccgdelhi.org . www.ccgtlr.org > . www.nludelhi.ac.in | Twitter: @ccgdelhi > . @gangeshvarma > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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GDCO is the winner of information for development award (i4d 2007 awards e-India) for the inclusion of the disabled, GDCO is the winner of i4d 2008 awards for the best innovations at the grassroots Telecentres and the winner of i4d 2009 for the initiatives of civil society for development (e-agriculture project and other e-services).. ..it is the winner of eWorld award 2011. it is the winner of best innovative NGO working on ICT for community development in Sudan. The winner of best album in Telecentre 2011 Philippines .. it the founder of the first Telecentre academy in Africa and middle east and the thirteen in world ..The Digital City of Eindhoven (DSE) Netherlands (the founder and well-known partner of GDCO in Netherlands) donated 750 computers and more than ten projects were established using ICT for community development and one of them is e-agriculture. GDCO & SPEG (foundation of eindhoven volunteers for gedaref projects) started new partnership for community development including people with disability (especially deaf), gedaref university, (faculty of medicine) e-agriculture, SeVO and other project On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Gangesh S. Varma < gangesh.varma at nludelhi.ac.in> wrote: > Dear All, > > While the final negotiations of the WSIS+10 Review are underway please > find CCG"s analysis of the 7 December draft outcome document here > . > This post highlights the changes in the latest draft and the key issues > that remain in each section. > > As you may be aware, comments are being received at ungawsisreview at un.org. > We hope that the post will help identify some of the key issues remaining > and help stakeholders contribute to the review process. 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GDCO is the winner of information > for development award (i4d 2007 awards e-India) for the inclusion of the > disabled, GDCO is the winner of i4d 2008 awards for the best innovations > at the grassroots Telecentres and the winner of i4d 2009 for the > initiatives of civil society for development (e-agriculture project and > other e-services).. ..it is the winner of eWorld award 2011. it is the > winner of best innovative NGO working on ICT for community development in > Sudan. The winner of best album in Telecentre 2011 Philippines .. it the > founder of the first Telecentre academy in Africa and middle east and the > thirteen in world ..The Digital City of Eindhoven (DSE) Netherlands (the > founder and well-known partner of GDCO in Netherlands) donated 750 > computers and more than ten projects were established using ICT for > community development and one of them is e-agriculture. GDCO & SPEG > (foundation of eindhoven volunteers for gedaref projects) started new > partnership for community development including people with disability > (especially deaf), gedaref university, (faculty of medicine) > e-agriculture, > SeVO and other project > > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Gangesh S. Varma < > gangesh.varma at nludelhi.ac.in> wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> While the final negotiations of the WSIS+10 Review are underway please >> find CCG"s analysis of the 7 December draft outcome document here >> . >> This post highlights the changes in the latest draft and the key issues >> that remain in each section. >> >> As you may be aware, comments are being received at ungawsisreview at un.org. >> We hope that the post will help identify some of the key issues remaining >> and help stakeholders contribute to the review process. We welcome any >> feedback that you may have. >> >> Apologies for cross-posting. >> >> Thanks and regards >> >> Gangesh >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best wishes Deirdre CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two Co-Chairs. -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Remmy Nweke -----Original Message----- From: "Deirdre Williams" Sent: ‎13/‎12/‎2015 12:57 To: "Internet Governance" Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR Dear All, Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG Chair. Best wishes Deirdre CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two Co-Chairs. -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gpaque at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 08:02:03 2015 From: gpaque at gmail.com (Ginger Paque) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:02:03 -0600 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: <566d5fe3.c83f1c0a.9f2ea.ffffe391@mx.google.com> References: <566d5fe3.c83f1c0a.9f2ea.ffffe391@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Thanks, De ... Thanks Remmy! Be sure to let us know what we can do for CS..... Best, Ginger Ginger (Virginia) Paque DiploFoundation *DiploFoundation upcoming online courses:* http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses * * On 13 December 2015 at 06:08, Remmy Nweke wrote: > Hi DD > This is to acknowledge your mail and also support Virginia normation. > Congrats to Virginia. > Best of the day. > Remmy Nweke > ------------------------------ > From: Deirdre Williams > Sent: ‎13/‎12/‎2015 12:57 > To: Internet Governance > Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR > > Dear All, > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG > Chair. > > Best wishes > > Deirdre > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased > to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward > for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. > As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a > parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a > smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked > to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of > civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society > members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing > involvement in our activities. > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and > look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society > appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two > Co-Chairs. > > > -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Remmy! > Be sure to let us know what we can do for CS..... > Best, > Ginger > > Ginger (Virginia) Paque > DiploFoundation > > *DiploFoundation upcoming online courses:* > http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses > * * > > > On 13 December 2015 at 06:08, Remmy Nweke wrote: > >> Hi DD >> This is to acknowledge your mail and also support Virginia normation. >> Congrats to Virginia. >> Best of the day. >> Remmy Nweke >> ------------------------------ >> From: Deirdre Williams >> Sent: ‎13/‎12/‎2015 12:57 >> To: Internet Governance >> Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR >> >> Dear All, >> >> Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG >> Chair. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Deirdre >> >> CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS >> >> >> >> The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is >> pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put >> forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint >> Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue >> on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both >> a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. >> >> Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the >> representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked >> to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of >> civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society >> members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing >> involvement in our activities. >> >> We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and >> look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society >> appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two >> Co-Chairs. >> >> >> -- >> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William >> Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at yahoo.fr Sun Dec 13 08:42:18 2015 From: arsenebaguma at yahoo.fr (Arsene TUNGALI (Yahoo)) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 13:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1439462292.669386.1450014138998.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Congratulations are in order, Ginger. I know you will do well, you truly represent. We are here to support you in any capacity you may need! Regards,A ---------------------Arsene Tungali,+243 993810967 at arsenebagumaDemocratic Republic of CongoSent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, December 13, 2015, 3:03 PM, Ginger Paque wrote: Thanks, De ... Thanks Remmy! Be sure to let us know what we can do for CS..... Best, Ginger Ginger (Virginia) PaqueDiploFoundation DiploFoundation upcoming online courses: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses On 13 December 2015 at 06:08, Remmy Nweke wrote: Hi DD This is to acknowledge your mail and also support Virginia normation. Congrats to Virginia. Best of the day. Remmy Nweke From: Deirdre Williams Sent: ‎13/‎12/‎2015 12:57 To: Internet Governance Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR Dear All, Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG Chair. Best wishes Deirdre CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS   The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society members.  We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two Co-Chairs. -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list:      governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit:      http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see:      http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:      http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list:     governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit:     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see:     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:     http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know you will do well, you truly > represent. We are here to support you in any capacity you may need! > > Regards, > A > > > --------------------- > Arsene Tungali, > +243 993810967 <+243%20993810967> > @arsenebaguma > Democratic Republic of Congo > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > On Sunday, December 13, 2015, 3:03 PM, Ginger Paque > wrote: > > Thanks, De ... Thanks Remmy! > Be sure to let us know what we can do for CS..... > Best, > Ginger > > Ginger (Virginia) Paque > DiploFoundation > > *DiploFoundation upcoming online courses:* > http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses > * * > > > On 13 December 2015 at 06:08, Remmy Nweke wrote: > >> Hi DD >> This is to acknowledge your mail and also support Virginia normation. >> Congrats to Virginia. >> Best of the day. >> Remmy Nweke >> ------------------------------ >> From: Deirdre Williams >> Sent: ‎13/‎12/‎2015 12:57 >> To: Internet Governance >> Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR >> >> Dear All, >> >> Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG >> Chair. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Deirdre >> >> CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS >> >> >> >> The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is >> pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put >> forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint >> Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue >> on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both >> a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. >> >> Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the >> representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked >> to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of >> civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society >> members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing >> involvement in our activities. >> >> We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and >> look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society >> appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two >> Co-Chairs. >> >> >> -- >> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William >> Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Poderoso abrazo El 13/12/2015 10:15, "Jacqueline Morris" escribió: > Congratulations, Ginger! > On 13 Dec 2015 09:45, "Arsene TUNGALI (Yahoo)" > wrote: > >> Congratulations are in order, Ginger. I know you will do well, you truly >> represent. We are here to support you in any capacity you may need! >> >> Regards, >> A >> >> >> --------------------- >> Arsene Tungali, >> +243 993810967 <+243%20993810967> >> @arsenebaguma >> Democratic Republic of Congo >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >> >> On Sunday, December 13, 2015, 3:03 PM, Ginger Paque >> wrote: >> >> Thanks, De ... Thanks Remmy! >> Be sure to let us know what we can do for CS..... >> Best, >> Ginger >> >> Ginger (Virginia) Paque >> DiploFoundation >> >> *DiploFoundation upcoming online courses:* >> http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses >> * * >> >> >> On 13 December 2015 at 06:08, Remmy Nweke wrote: >> >>> Hi DD >>> This is to acknowledge your mail and also support Virginia normation. >>> Congrats to Virginia. >>> Best of the day. >>> Remmy Nweke >>> ------------------------------ >>> From: Deirdre Williams >>> Sent: ‎13/‎12/‎2015 12:57 >>> To: Internet Governance >>> Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG >>> Chair. >>> >>> Best wishes >>> >>> Deirdre >>> >>> CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS >>> >>> >>> >>> The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is >>> pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put >>> forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint >>> Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue >>> on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both >>> a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. >>> >>> Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the >>> representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked >>> to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of >>> civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society >>> members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing >>> involvement in our activities. >>> >>> We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and >>> look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society >>> appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two >>> Co-Chairs. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir >>> William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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El dic 13, 2015 9:57 AM, "Deirdre Williams" escribió: > Dear All, > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG > Chair. > > Best wishes > > Deirdre > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased > to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward > for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. > As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a > parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a > smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked > to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of > civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society > members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing > involvement in our activities. > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and > look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society > appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two > Co-Chairs. > > > -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: > on behalf of Deirdre Williams > Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" >, Deirdre Williams > Date: Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 6:56 AM To: Internet Governance > Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR Dear All, Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG Chair. Best wishes Deirdre CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two Co-Chairs. -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From joao.caribe at me.com Sun Dec 13 10:53:16 2015 From: joao.caribe at me.com (=?utf-8?Q? Jo=C3=A3o_Carlos_R._Carib=C3=A9 ?=) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 13:53:16 -0200 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74B3F217-7893-4851-9801-9085BF53EF80@me.com> Congrats to Virginia, I realy proud to your conquer even Ian's. _ João Carlos Caribé (021) 9 8761 1967 Skype joaocaribe Enviado via iPad > Em 13 de dez de 2015, às 09:56, Deirdre Williams escreveu: > > Dear All, > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG Chair. > > Best wishes > > Deirdre > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two Co-Chairs. > > > > -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From arsenebaguma at yahoo.fr Sun Dec 13 10:56:04 2015 From: arsenebaguma at yahoo.fr (Arsene TUNGALI (Yahoo)) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 15:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [governance] IGC meeting in Joao Pessoa In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92164317.737295.1450022164987.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Dear De and all, Hope this finds you well. Just realised that we haven't taken any serious decision as regards of moving forward after our successful meeting at IGF Brazil. Just spoke with Renata who has the same concern. Just wanted to bring this back and thought it would be great to receive feedback or comments from members who didn't attend the meeting. The minutes were shared which can help shed some light. Also, did we or anyone made a statemet on the draft documznt for the wsis process? I remember this was requested by Wolfang. Thanks,A ---------------------Arsene Tungali,+243 993810967 at arsenebagumaDemocratic Republic of CongoSent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, November 12, 2015, 11:50 AM, Deirdre Williams wrote: Dear Izumi,Thank you very much.I will add my notes to these, and invite and encourage those who were present at the meeting to do the same.Thank you also to all of those who came to the meeting.My apologies to Antonio - I tried to contact your hub as the meeting started, but without success.Finally I suggest that in the process of reviewing the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS), and in considering the future of the IGC, it may be useful to revisit the contribution made then by civil society.I wish you could all be here with usDeirdre On 11 November 2015 at 12:38, Izumi AIZU wrote: This is my personal note of IGC meeting at IGF 10, until my leaving the room now. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wa-m2oWFdvPQ7t6cDu4R32tTgrX3Tud4mbZQJT0W5fE/edit izumi 2015-10-31 21:14 GMT-03:00 Deirdre Williams : Dear IGC members, Deirdre heard late Thursday afternoon that she will havefunding to attend IGF 2015 in Joao Pessoa. Through the good offices of Eleonorawe have a meeting room – Bilateral Room 3 – on Wednesday 11thNovember (Day 2) from 12.00 to 1300. Could you please indicate whether you willbe willing and able to attend a face to face meeting of the IGC at that dateand time? Whether you will be in Brazil or not we would be gratefulfor input for an agenda. Please remember that we have only one hour for themeeting. Thank you Deirdre and Analia -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list:      governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit:      http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see:      http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:      http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t --                      >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,           Japan www.anr.org -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list:     governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit:     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see:     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:     http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Sun Dec 13 11:03:05 2015 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:03:05 +0100 Subject: AW: [governance] CSCG CHAIR References: Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A2A4DF@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> My best wishes go to Virginia Paque. This is not an easy task. The challenges are high. And Virginia deserves the support of all well intentioned CS groups in this field. With Ian as co-chair I am sure that Virginia will be able to help us to leave some useless internal battles behind us and move forward. There is a need that CS remains "federated" and comes with a coordinated voice to the global multistakeholder Internet Governance negotiation table. 2016 will be the first year after the WSIS 10+ Review. It will see - hopefully - the expiration of the IANA contract. We will have the OECD Ministerial Conference in Cancun. We will have new rounds of global talks on cybersceurity and digital trade. We will see new emering problems related to the the Internet of Things and other technological or business innovations. There is an ongoing need to relate all those issues to human rights. And everyhwere a strong civil society is needed. Without the voice of civil society the multistakeholder approach will remain an empty concept. Best wishes Wolfgang -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Deirdre Williams Gesendet: So 13.12.2015 12:56 An: Internet Governance Betreff: [governance] CSCG CHAIR Dear All, Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG Chair. Best wishes Deirdre CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia's request, Ian Peter will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society members. We look forward to Virginia's renewed involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two Co-Chairs. -- "The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wisdom.dk at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 11:17:42 2015 From: wisdom.dk at gmail.com (Wisdom Donkor) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 16:17:42 +0000 Subject: [governance] IGC meeting in Joao Pessoa In-Reply-To: <92164317.737295.1450022164987.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <92164317.737295.1450022164987.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Agree with Arsene Cheers On Sunday, December 13, 2015, Arsene TUNGALI (Yahoo) wrote: > Dear De and all, > Hope this finds you well. Just realised that we haven't taken any serious decision as regards of moving forward after our successful meeting at IGF Brazil. Just spoke with Renata who has the same concern. > Just wanted to bring this back and thought it would be great to receive feedback or comments from members who didn't attend the meeting. The minutes were shared which can help shed some light. > Also, did we or anyone made a statemet on the draft documznt for the wsis process? I remember this was requested by Wolfang. > Thanks, > A > > > On Thursday, November 12, 2015, 11:50 AM, Deirdre Williams < williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Izumi, > Thank you very much. > I will add my notes to these, and invite and encourage those who were present at the meeting to do the same. > Thank you also to all of those who came to the meeting. > My apologies to Antonio - I tried to contact your hub as the meeting started, but without success. > Finally I suggest that in the process of reviewing the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS), and in considering the future of the IGC, it may be useful to revisit the contribution made then by civil society. > I wish you could all be here with us > Deirdre > On 11 November 2015 at 12:38, Izumi AIZU wrote: >> >> This is my personal note of IGC meeting at IGF 10, until my leaving the room now. >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wa-m2oWFdvPQ7t6cDu4R32tTgrX3Tud4mbZQJT0W5fE/edit >> >> izumi >> >> 2015-10-31 21:14 GMT-03:00 Deirdre Williams : >>> >>> Dear IGC members, >>> >>> Deirdre heard late Thursday afternoon that she will have funding to attend IGF 2015 in Joao Pessoa. Through the good offices of Eleonora we have a meeting room – Bilateral Room 3 – on Wednesday 11th November (Day 2) from 12.00 to 1300. Could you please indicate whether you will be willing and able to attend a face to face meeting of the IGC at that date and time? >>> >>> Whether you will be in Brazil or not we would be grateful for input for an agenda. Please remember that we have only one hour for the meeting. >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> Deirdre and Analia >>> >>> -- >>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Izumi Aizu << >> Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo >> Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, >> Japan >> www.anr.org > > > > -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.) 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Thanks to Ian as well. As Wolfgang rightly suggests: "This is not an easy task" and, he seems to be willing to help by asking you to be aware of: - some CS that are not 'well intentioned' in the field. According to WK there seems to be malicious CS around here. Could WK be more specific and point to the villains he is referring to? He can do that privately to you, if he feels he can't speak in the open. - CS should remained 'federated' to come with a 'coordinated' voice. Everyone understands what is a 'federated CS' or a 'coordinated voice' in here? I do not. Could WK explain what he means here? Are these new official multistakeholderism aphorism? - Only if federated or coordinated CS should only consider talking to 'global multistakeholder IG negotiation table'. Ahah, a negotiation table? Where is this happing Wolfgang? So probably by sending such strong warnings, WK does really mean his: "This is not an easy task". One interesting piece of news is his highly recommended strategy for the upcoming Independent Chair. Very helpful indeed. "Please keep everything related to Human Rights". As everyone knows, nobody can ever argue against Human Rights; moreover everyone knows that Human Rights is the most difficult topic among the many that are related to transnational governance. Very little progress to be recorded here. Of course, if one want to make sure that things move very very slowly, then that might be a good strategy. If status quo is part of HR, let's love status quo. So let's keep talking Human Rights (I wonder as I am writing this if I am not already putting myself in the line of fire as someone going against Human Rights - unless my freedom of Expression right is enough to protect me from such avenge), and all will be well in the MS world of IG. So let's be happy with One Thought, One Idea, One Internet, One vision of it. Pluralism is old fashion, concentration is better. Opinions are dangerous, communion is mandatory. Debating is a waste of time, let's listen to our masters. Love you Wolfgang. JC Le 13 déc. 2015 à 17:03, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang a écrit : > My best wishes go to Virginia Paque. This is not an easy task. The challenges are high. And Virginia deserves the support of all well intentioned CS groups in this field. With Ian as co-chair I am sure that Virginia will be able to help us to leave some useless internal battles behind us and move forward. > > There is a need that CS remains "federated" and comes with a coordinated voice to the global multistakeholder Internet Governance negotiation table. 2016 will be the first year after the WSIS 10+ Review. It will see - hopefully - the expiration of the IANA contract. We will have the OECD Ministerial Conference in Cancun. We will have new rounds of global talks on cybersceurity and digital trade. We will see new emering problems related to the the Internet of Things and other technological or business innovations. There is an ongoing need to relate all those issues to human rights. And everyhwere a strong civil society is needed. Without the voice of civil society the multistakeholder approach will remain an empty concept. > > Best wishes > > Wolfgang > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Deirdre Williams > Gesendet: So 13.12.2015 12:56 > An: Internet Governance > Betreff: [governance] CSCG CHAIR > > Dear All, > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG Chair. > > Best wishes > > Deirdre > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased > to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward > for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. > As well, and at Virginia's request, Ian Peter will continue on in a > parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a > smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked > to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of > civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society > members. We look forward to Virginia's renewed involvement and ongoing > involvement in our activities. > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and > look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society > appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two > Co-Chairs. > > > -- > "The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fatimacambronero at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 13:35:08 2015 From: fatimacambronero at gmail.com (Fatima Cambronero) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 12:35:08 -0600 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: <09BE580D-696A-4122-9486-23C409F16978@theglobaljournal.net> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A2A4DF@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <09BE580D-696A-4122-9486-23C409F16978@theglobaljournal.net> Message-ID: Congratulations, Ginger! Fatima 2015-12-13 11:20 GMT-06:00 Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal < jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net>: > Congratulations Ginger! Thanks to Ian as well. > > As Wolfgang rightly suggests: "This is not an easy task" and, he seems to > be willing to help by asking you to be aware of: > - some CS that are not '*well intentioned*' in the field. According to WK > there seems to be malicious CS around here. Could WK be more specific and > point to the villains he is referring to? He can do that privately to you, > if he feels he can't speak in the open. > - CS should remained '*federated*' to come with a 'coordinated' voice. > Everyone understands what is a 'federated CS' or a 'coordinated voice' in > here? I do not. Could WK explain what he means here? Are these new official > multistakeholderism aphorism? > - Only if federated or coordinated CS should only consider talking to '*global > multistakeholder IG negotiation table*'. Ahah, a negotiation table? Where > is this happing Wolfgang? > > So probably by sending such strong warnings, WK does really mean his: > "This is not an easy task". > > One interesting piece of news is his highly recommended strategy for the > upcoming Independent Chair. Very helpful indeed. "*Please keep everything > related to Human Rights*". As everyone knows, nobody can ever argue > against Human Rights; moreover everyone knows that Human Rights is the most > difficult topic among the many that are related to transnational > governance. Very little progress to be recorded here. Of course, if one > want to make sure that things move very very slowly, then that might be a > good strategy. If status quo is part of HR, let's love status quo. > > So let's keep talking Human Rights (I wonder as I am writing this if I am > not already putting myself in the line of fire as someone going against > Human Rights - unless my freedom of Expression right is enough to protect > me from such avenge), and all will be well in the MS world of IG. > > So let's be happy with One Thought, One Idea, One Internet, One vision of > it. Pluralism is old fashion, concentration is better. Opinions are > dangerous, communion is mandatory. Debating is a waste of time, let's > listen to our masters. > > Love you Wolfgang. > > JC > > Le 13 déc. 2015 à 17:03, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang a écrit : > > My best wishes go to Virginia Paque. This is not an easy task. The > challenges are high. And Virginia deserves the support of all well > intentioned CS groups in this field. With Ian as co-chair I am sure that > Virginia will be able to help us to leave some useless internal battles > behind us and move forward. > > There is a need that CS remains "federated" and comes with a coordinated > voice to the global multistakeholder Internet Governance negotiation table. > 2016 will be the first year after the WSIS 10+ Review. It will see - > hopefully - the expiration of the IANA contract. We will have the OECD > Ministerial Conference in Cancun. We will have new rounds of global talks > on cybersceurity and digital trade. We will see new emering problems > related to the the Internet of Things and other technological or business > innovations. There is an ongoing need to relate all those issues to human > rights. And everyhwere a strong civil society is needed. Without the voice > of civil society the multistakeholder approach will remain an empty > concept. > > Best wishes > > Wolfgang > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Deirdre Williams > Gesendet: So 13.12.2015 12:56 > An: Internet Governance > Betreff: [governance] CSCG CHAIR > > Dear All, > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG > Chair. > > Best wishes > > Deirdre > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased > to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward > for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. > As well, and at Virginia's request, Ian Peter will continue on in a > parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a > smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked > to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of > civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society > members. We look forward to Virginia's renewed involvement and ongoing > involvement in our activities. > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and > look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society > appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two > Co-Chairs. > > > -- > "The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- *Fatima Cambronero* Abogada Argentina/México Phone: Argentina: +54 9351 5282 668 - México: +52 (55) 3018 2066 Twitter: @facambronero Skype: fatima.cambronero -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks to Ian as well. > > As Wolfgang rightly suggests: "This is not an easy task" and, he seems to be willing to help by asking you to be aware of: > - some CS that are not 'well intentioned' in the field. According to WK there seems to be malicious CS around here. Could WK be more specific and point to the villains he is referring to? He can do that privately to you, if he feels he can't speak in the open. > - CS should remained 'federated' to come with a 'coordinated' voice. Everyone understands what is a 'federated CS' or a 'coordinated voice' in here? I do not. Could WK explain what he means here? Are these new official multistakeholderism aphorism? > - Only if federated or coordinated CS should only consider talking to 'global multistakeholder IG negotiation table'. Ahah, a negotiation table? Where is this happing Wolfgang? > > So probably by sending such strong warnings, WK does really mean his: "This is not an easy task". > > One interesting piece of news is his highly recommended strategy for the upcoming Independent Chair. Very helpful indeed. "Please keep everything related to Human Rights". As everyone knows, nobody can ever argue against Human Rights; moreover everyone knows that Human Rights is the most difficult topic among the many that are related to transnational governance. Very little progress to be recorded here. Of course, if one want to make sure that things move very very slowly, then that might be a good strategy. If status quo is part of HR, let's love status quo. > > So let's keep talking Human Rights (I wonder as I am writing this if I am not already putting myself in the line of fire as someone going against Human Rights - unless my freedom of Expression right is enough to protect me from such avenge), and all will be well in the MS world of IG. > > So let's be happy with One Thought, One Idea, One Internet, One vision of it. Pluralism is old fashion, concentration is better. Opinions are dangerous, communion is mandatory. Debating is a waste of time, let's listen to our masters. > > Love you Wolfgang. > > JC > > Le 13 déc. 2015 à 17:03, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang a écrit : > >> My best wishes go to Virginia Paque. This is not an easy task. The challenges are high. And Virginia deserves the support of all well intentioned CS groups in this field. With Ian as co-chair I am sure that Virginia will be able to help us to leave some useless internal battles behind us and move forward. >> >> There is a need that CS remains "federated" and comes with a coordinated voice to the global multistakeholder Internet Governance negotiation table. 2016 will be the first year after the WSIS 10+ Review. It will see - hopefully - the expiration of the IANA contract. We will have the OECD Ministerial Conference in Cancun. We will have new rounds of global talks on cybersceurity and digital trade. We will see new emering problems related to the the Internet of Things and other technological or business innovations. There is an ongoing need to relate all those issues to human rights. And everyhwere a strong civil society is needed. Without the voice of civil society the multistakeholder approach will remain an empty concept. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Wolfgang >> >> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Deirdre Williams >> Gesendet: So 13.12.2015 12:56 >> An: Internet Governance >> Betreff: [governance] CSCG CHAIR >> >> Dear All, >> >> Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG Chair. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Deirdre >> >> CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS >> >> >> >> The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased >> to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward >> for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. >> As well, and at Virginia's request, Ian Peter will continue on in a >> parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a >> smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. >> >> Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the >> representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked >> to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of >> civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society >> members. We look forward to Virginia's renewed involvement and ongoing >> involvement in our activities. >> >> We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and >> look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society >> appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two >> Co-Chairs. >> >> >> -- >> "The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William >> Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > -- > Fatima Cambronero > Abogada > Argentina/México > > Phone: Argentina: +54 9351 5282 668 - México: +52 (55) 3018 2066 > Twitter: @facambronero > Skype: fatima.cambronero > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From raquino at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 15:12:12 2015 From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 17:12:12 -0300 Subject: [governance] IGC meeting in Joao Pessoa In-Reply-To: References: <92164317.737295.1450022164987.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi As mentioned by Arsene Tungali, I really wondered if there were further developments after the IGC meeting in IGF2015 on paths for the community. As for WSIS10 there seems to be already an outcome document agreed http://workspace.unpan.org/sites/Internet/Documents/UNPAN95707.pdf On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Wisdom Donkor wrote: > Agree with Arsene > > Cheers > > On Sunday, December 13, 2015, Arsene TUNGALI (Yahoo) < > arsenebaguma at yahoo.fr> wrote: > > Dear De and all, > > Hope this finds you well. Just realised that we haven't taken any > serious decision as regards of moving forward after our successful meeting > at IGF Brazil. Just spoke with Renata who has the same concern. > > Just wanted to bring this back and thought it would be great to receive > feedback or comments from members who didn't attend the meeting. The > minutes were shared which can help shed some light. > > Also, did we or anyone made a statemet on the draft documznt for the > wsis process? I remember this was requested by Wolfang. > > Thanks, > > A > > > > > > On Thursday, November 12, 2015, 11:50 AM, Deirdre Williams < > williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Dear Izumi, > > Thank you very much. > > I will add my notes to these, and invite and encourage those who were > present at the meeting to do the same. > > Thank you also to all of those who came to the meeting. > > My apologies to Antonio - I tried to contact your hub as the meeting > started, but without success. > > Finally I suggest that in the process of reviewing the World Summit on > the Information Society (WSIS), and in considering the future of the IGC, > it may be useful to revisit the contribution made then by civil society. > > I wish you could all be here with us > > Deirdre > > On 11 November 2015 at 12:38, Izumi AIZU wrote: > >> > >> This is my personal note of IGC meeting at IGF 10, until my leaving the > room now. > >> > >> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wa-m2oWFdvPQ7t6cDu4R32tTgrX3Tud4mbZQJT0W5fE/edit > >> > >> izumi > >> > >> 2015-10-31 21:14 GMT-03:00 Deirdre Williams >: > >>> > >>> Dear IGC members, > >>> > >>> Deirdre heard late Thursday afternoon that she will have funding to > attend IGF 2015 in Joao Pessoa. Through the good offices of Eleonora we > have a meeting room – Bilateral Room 3 – on Wednesday 11th November (Day 2) > from 12.00 to 1300. Could you please indicate whether you will be willing > and able to attend a face to face meeting of the IGC at that date and time? > >>> > >>> Whether you will be in Brazil or not we would be grateful for input > for an agenda. Please remember that we have only one hour for the meeting. > >>> > >>> Thank you > >>> > >>> Deirdre and Analia > >>> > >>> -- > >>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir > William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > >>> ____________________________________________________________ > >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >>> To be removed from the list, visit: > >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >>> > >>> For all other list information and functions, see: > >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >>> > >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> >> Izumi Aizu << > >> Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo > >> Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, > >> Japan > >> www.anr.org > > > > > > > > -- > > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir > William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > -- > WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.) > ICANN Fellow / ISOC Member > Web/OGPL Portal Specialist > National Information Technology Agency (NITA) > Ghana Open Data Initiative (GODI) > Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana > Tel; +233 20 812881 > Email: wisdom_dk at hotmail.com > wisdom.donkor at data.gov.gh > wisdom.dk at gmail.com > Skype: wisdom_dk > facebook: facebook at wisdom_dk > Website: www.nita.gov.gh / www.data.gov.gh > www.isoc.gh / www.itag.org.gh > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From cisse.kane at bluewin.ch Sun Dec 13 21:41:37 2015 From: cisse.kane at bluewin.ch (cisse.kane at bluewin.ch) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 02:41:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: %3CCALCecM9Jim7DooR7HvFi1_zH7b+q7zwuhNrzUPPYGRrsxyoEpg@mail.gmail.com%3E References: %3CCALCecM9Jim7DooR7HvFi1_zH7b+q7zwuhNrzUPPYGRrsxyoEpg@mail.gmail.com%3E Message-ID: <12aed7.2.1519e5d5ba0.Webtop.225@bluewin.ch> Hi Remmy good to Know this for ACSIS. best from NY were I arrived yesterday Cisse ------ Message Original ------ On Dimanche, 13 Déc, 2015 à 14:02, Ginger Paque écrit: Thanks, De ... Thanks Remmy! Be sure to let us know what we can do for CS..... Best, Ginger Ginger (Virginia) Paque DiploFoundation DiploFoundation upcoming online courses: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses On 13 December 2015 at 06:08, Remmy Nweke > wrote: Hi DD This is to acknowledge your mail and also support Virginia normation. Congrats to Virginia. Best of the day. Remmy Nweke From: Deirdre Williams Sent: ‎13/‎12/‎2015 12:57 To: Internet Governance Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR Dear All, Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG Chair. Best wishes Deirdre CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS   The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society members.  We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two Co-Chairs. -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list:      governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit:      http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see:      http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:      http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list:      governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit:      http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see:      http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:      http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From toml at communisphere.com Sun Dec 13 22:02:30 2015 From: toml at communisphere.com (Thomas Lowenhaupt) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 22:02:30 -0500 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <566E3146.5030802@communisphere.com> Congratulations Virginia. And thanks for stepping up. Tom Lowenhaupt On 12/13/2015 6:56 AM, Deirdre Williams wrote: > > Dear All, > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG > Chair. > > Best wishes > > Deirdre > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is > pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names > put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to > appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter > will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 > months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing over > the coming year. > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo > asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and > support of civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of > civil society members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed > involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, > and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society > appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two > Co-Chairs. > > > > -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir > William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We look forward to hear your views on the document, and welcome any feedback or suggestions on our posts. Apologies for cross-posting! Thanks and regards Gangesh -- Gangesh Sreekumar Varma | Senior Fellow Centre for Communication Governance | National Law University, Delhi | Sector-14, Dwarka, New Delhi - 110078 | Cell: (+91) 8447159123 | Fax: (+91) 11-280-34256 | www.ccgdelhi.org . www.ccgtlr.org . www.nludelhi.ac.in | Twitter: @ccgdelhi . @gangeshvarma -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sana On Dec 14, 2015 10:38 AM, "Nighat Dad" wrote: > UN Special Rapporteur on the promotion and protection of the right to > freedom of opinion and expression David Kaye urges Pakistan to ensure > protection of freedom of expression in draft Cyber crime Bill > > > http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=16879&LangID=E > > Best, > Nighat Dad > Digital Rights Foundation > www.digitalrightsfoundation.pk > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From julian at colnodo.apc.org Mon Dec 14 14:53:52 2015 From: julian at colnodo.apc.org (Julian Casasbuenas G.) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:53:52 -0500 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <566F1E50.80503@colnodo.apc.org> Congratulations Ginger! Un abrazo, Julián El 13/12/15 a las 06:56, Deirdre Williams escribió: > > Dear All, > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG > Chair. > > Best wishes > > Deirdre > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is > pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names > put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to > appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter > will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 > months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing over > the coming year. > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo > asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and > support of civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of > civil society members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed > involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, > and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society > appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two > Co-Chairs. > > > > -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir > William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- Colnodo - Uso estratégico de Internet para el desarrollo *Julián Casasbuenas G.* Director Tels: 57-1-2324246, 57-315-2585596 Cel. 57-315-3339099 Diagonal 40A (Antigua Av. 39) No. 14-75, Bogotá, Colombia Twitter @jcasasbuenas @colnodo www.colnodo.apc.org - Uso Estratégico de Internet para el Desarrollo Miembro de la Asociación para el Progreso de las Comunicaciones -APC- www.apc.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sun, Dec 13, 2015, 7:57 AM Deirdre Williams wrote: > Dear All, > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG > Chair. > > Best wishes > > Deirdre > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased > to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward > for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. > As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a > parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a > smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked > to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of > civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society > members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing > involvement in our activities. > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and > look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society > appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two > Co-Chairs. > > > -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Divina   Dear All, Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG Chair. Best wishes Deirdre CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS   The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society members.  We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two Co-Chairs. > > -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- > > Julián Casasbuenas G. Director Tels: 57-1-2324246, 57-315-2585596 Cel. 57-315-3339099 Diagonal 40A (Antigua Av. 39) No. 14-75, Bogotá, Colombia Twitter @jcasasbuenas @colnodo www.colnodo.apc.org - Uso Estratégico de Internet para el Desarrollo Miembro de la Asociación para el Progreso de las Comunicaciones -APC- www.apc.org ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list:      governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit:      http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see:      http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:      http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: logo_firma_digital.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4162 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wjdrake at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 05:42:11 2015 From: wjdrake at gmail.com (William Drake) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:42:11 +0100 Subject: [governance] New book: The Working Group on Internet Governance: 10th Anniversary Reflections Message-ID: <4BC986E5-F0F4-4320-AED8-B88B2C955A13@gmail.com> Apologies for cross-posting In case anyone is interested, just in time for the WSIS+10 Review, yesterday the APC released the below book, which is edited by myself and populated by various familiar IG mavens. The free PDF version is available now from the APC website, and in a week or so there also will be e-book and print on demand versions at Amazon and other dealers for a couple dollars. Best Bill -------------------- PRESS STATEMENT FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE New publication: The Working Group on Internet Governance - 10th Anniversary Reflections JOHANNESBURG, South Africa, 14 December 2015 – 2015 marks the 10th anniversary of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS). The UN General Assembly reviewed the progress made over the past decade and negotiated a text that addresses a number of global Internet governance issues. 2015 is also the 10th anniversary of a multistakeholder experiment that helped bring the WSIS to a successful conclusion: the Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG). Convened in 2004, the WGIG assembled 40 representatives of governments and stakeholders who engaged in months of intensive peer-level dialogue and collective analysis. The WGIG process was an important turning point and catalyst in the intergovernmental recognition of multistakeholder processes for Internet governance. In June 2005, the WGIG released a widely noted report that advanced a “broad definition” of Internet governance; holistically addressed a range of policy issues; offered four competing models for the ”oversight” of critical Internet resources; and proposed the establishment of the Internet Governance Forum. The report significantly influenced the final agreement adopted by WSIS. This book, edited by William J. Drake and published by APC, APNIC, CGI.br , ICANN and Internet Society, reflects on the WGIG’s procedural and substantive contributions to the evolving global Internet governance dialogue and institutional ecosystem. Written by former WGIG members and others who played key roles in the debates on the WGIG and WSIS, the volume is a follow-up to a book produced in the summer of 2005: William J. Drake, ed., Reforming Internet Governance: Perspectives from the UN Working Group on Internet Governance . Topics include: historical overview; understanding Internet governance; institutionalizing multistakeholder cooperation; from oversight to stewardship; Internet governance for development; and closing reflections. Authors include: Fiona Alexander, Peng Hwa Ang and Sherly Haristya, Karen Banks and Anriette Esterhuysen, Nitin Desai, Avri Doria, William J. Drake, Raúl Echeberría, Baher Esmat, Juan Fernández González, Hartmut R. Glaser and Diego R. Canabarro, David Hendon, Jānis Kārkliņš, Wolfgang Kleinwächter, Jovan Kurbalija, Markus Kummer, Olivier Nana Nzépa, Alejandro Pisanty, Paul Wilson and Pablo Hinojosa, and Michael Yakushev. The full publication can be downloaded here About the Association for Progressive Communications The Association for Progressive Communications (APC) is an international network and non-profit organisation founded in 1990 that wants everyone to have access to a free and open internet to improve lives and create a more just world. apc.org PO Box 29755 Melville, GT 2109 South Africa Media contact Flavia Fascendini APC Communications flavia at apc.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: > on behalf of William Drake > Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" >, William Drake > Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 12:42 PM To: Governance > Subject: [governance] New book: The Working Group on Internet Governance: 10th Anniversary Reflections Apologies for cross-posting In case anyone is interested, just in time for the WSIS+10 Review, yesterday the APC released the below book, which is edited by myself and populated by various familiar IG mavens. The free PDF version is available now from the APC website, and in a week or so there also will be e-book and print on demand versions at Amazon and other dealers for a couple dollars. Best Bill -------------------- PRESS STATEMENT FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE New publication: The Working Group on Internet Governance - 10th Anniversary Reflections JOHANNESBURG, South Africa, 14 December 2015 – 2015 marks the 10th anniversary of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS). The UN General Assembly reviewed the progress made over the past decade and negotiated a text that addresses a number of global Internet governance issues. 2015 is also the 10th anniversary of a multistakeholder experiment that helped bring the WSIS to a successful conclusion: the Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG). Convened in 2004, the WGIG assembled 40 representatives of governments and stakeholders who engaged in months of intensive peer-level dialogue and collective analysis. The WGIG process was an important turning point and catalyst in the intergovernmental recognition of multistakeholder processes for Internet governance. In June 2005, the WGIG released a widely noted report that advanced a “broad definition” of Internet governance; holistically addressed a range of policy issues; offered four competing models for the ”oversight” of critical Internet resources; and proposed the establishment of the Internet Governance Forum. The report significantly influenced the final agreement adopted by WSIS. This book, edited by William J. Drake and published by APC, APNIC, CGI.br, ICANN and Internet Society, reflects on the WGIG’s procedural and substantive contributions to the evolving global Internet governance dialogue and institutional ecosystem. Written by former WGIG members and others who played key roles in the debates on the WGIG and WSIS, the volume is a follow-up to a book produced in the summer of 2005: William J. Drake, ed., Reforming Internet Governance: Perspectives from the UN Working Group on Internet Governance. Topics include: historical overview; understanding Internet governance; institutionalizing multistakeholder cooperation; from oversight to stewardship; Internet governance for development; and closing reflections. Authors include: Fiona Alexander, Peng Hwa Ang and Sherly Haristya, Karen Banks and Anriette Esterhuysen, Nitin Desai, Avri Doria, William J. Drake, Raúl Echeberría, Baher Esmat, Juan Fernández González, Hartmut R. Glaser and Diego R. Canabarro, David Hendon, Jānis Kārkliņš, Wolfgang Kleinwächter, Jovan Kurbalija, Markus Kummer, Olivier Nana Nzépa, Alejandro Pisanty, Paul Wilson and Pablo Hinojosa, and Michael Yakushev. The full publication can be downloaded here ________________________________ About the Association for Progressive Communications The Association for Progressive Communications (APC) is an international network and non-profit organisation founded in 1990 that wants everyone to have access to a free and open internet to improve lives and create a more just world. apc.org PO Box 29755 Melville, GT 2109 South Africa Media contact Flavia Fascendini APC Communications flavia at apc.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Summary (more detail below): *GIP Digital Watch* brings you daily reporting from the UN General Assembly’s WSIS Review Meeting. Stay tuned to dw.giplatform.org/wsis10 for session reports, dailies, a summary report, and additional information and analysis. During breakfast (if you are in New York) or lunch (in Europe), you may browse through WSIS Daily no. 1 . Is this email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser . Dear colleagues, *GIP Digital Watch* brings you daily reporting from the UN General Assembly’s WSIS Review Meeting. Stay tuned to dw.giplatform.org/wsis10 for session reports, dailies, a summary report, and additional information and analysis. During breakfast (if you are in New York) or lunch (in Europe), you may browse through WSIS Daily no. 1 , which includes: - An overview and detailed up-to-date timeline of the WSIS+10 process - Reports from the side-events held yesterday - Sentiment analysis of the WSIS+10 Outcome Document - And as usual, something just for fun! WSIS Daily no. 2 will be available tomorrow morning, and the final summary report on Fridaymorning. Thank you for your interest. We look forward to your feedback at digitalwatch at diplomacy.edu. Follow us on Twitter | Forward to a friend You're receiving this email because you expressed an interest in Geneva Internet Platform. unsubscribe virginiap at diplomacy.edu from this list | update your subscription preferences [image: Email Marketing Powered by MailChimp] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kstouray at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 07:48:08 2015 From: kstouray at gmail.com (Katim S. Touray) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:48:08 +0000 Subject: [governance] New book: The Working Group on Internet Governance: 10th Anniversary Reflections In-Reply-To: <4BC986E5-F0F4-4320-AED8-B88B2C955A13@gmail.com> References: <4BC986E5-F0F4-4320-AED8-B88B2C955A13@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Bill, Congratulations! And thanks to you, your colleagues and the sponsors for putting this together, and for all your efforts all these years. Keep up the great work! Season's Greetings and, in advance, best wishes for a GREAT NEW YEAR!! Katim On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:42 AM, William Drake wrote: > > *Apologies for cross-posting* > > In case anyone is interested, just in time for the WSIS+10 Review, > yesterday the APC released the below book, which is edited by myself and > populated by various familiar IG mavens. The free PDF version is available > now from the APC website, and in a week or so there also will be e-book and > print on demand versions at Amazon and other dealers for a couple dollars. > > Best > > Bill > > -------------------- > > PRESS STATEMENT FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > *New publication: The Working Group on Internet Governance - 10th > Anniversary Reflections* > > JOHANNESBURG, South Africa, 14 December 2015 – 2015 marks the 10th > anniversary of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS). The UN > General Assembly reviewed the progress made over the past decade and > negotiated a text that addresses a number of global Internet governance > issues. 2015 is also the 10th anniversary of a multistakeholder experiment > that helped bring the WSIS to a successful conclusion: the Working Group on > Internet Governance (WGIG). Convened in 2004, the WGIG assembled 40 > representatives of governments and stakeholders who engaged in months of > intensive peer-level dialogue and collective analysis. The WGIG process was > an important turning point and catalyst in the intergovernmental > recognition of multistakeholder processes for Internet governance. In June > 2005, the WGIG released a widely noted report that advanced a “broad > definition” of Internet governance; holistically addressed a range of > policy issues; offered four competing models for the ”oversight” of > critical Internet resources; and proposed the establishment of the Internet > Governance Forum. The report significantly influenced the final agreement > adopted by WSIS. > > This book, edited by William J. Drake and published by APC, APNIC, CGI.br > , ICANN and Internet Society, reflects on the WGIG’s > procedural and substantive contributions to the evolving global Internet > governance dialogue and institutional ecosystem. Written by former WGIG > members and others who played key roles in the debates on the WGIG and > WSIS, the volume is a follow-up to a book produced in the summer of 2005: > William J. Drake, ed., Reforming Internet Governance: Perspectives from > the UN Working Group on Internet Governance > . > > *Topics include:* historical overview; understanding Internet governance; > institutionalizing multistakeholder cooperation; from oversight to > stewardship; Internet governance for development; and closing reflections. > > *Authors include:* Fiona Alexander, Peng Hwa Ang and Sherly Haristya, > Karen Banks and Anriette Esterhuysen, Nitin Desai, Avri Doria, William J. > Drake, Raúl Echeberría, Baher Esmat, Juan Fernández González, Hartmut R. > Glaser and Diego R. Canabarro, David Hendon, Jānis Kārkliņš, Wolfgang > Kleinwächter, Jovan Kurbalija, Markus Kummer, Olivier Nana Nzépa, Alejandro > Pisanty, Paul Wilson and Pablo Hinojosa, and Michael Yakushev. > > *The full publication can be downloaded here > * > ------------------------------ > > *About the Association for Progressive Communications* > > The Association for Progressive Communications (APC) is an international > network and non-profit organisation founded in 1990 that wants everyone to > have access to a free and open internet to improve lives and create a more > just world. > apc.org > > > PO Box 29755 > Melville, GT 2109 > South Africa > > *Media contact* > > Flavia Fascendini > APC Communications > flavia at apc.org > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lmcknigh at syr.edu Tue Dec 15 09:20:40 2015 From: lmcknigh at syr.edu (Lee W McKnight) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:20:40 +0000 Subject: [governance] New book: The Working Group on Internet Governance: 10th Anniversary Reflections In-Reply-To: <4BC986E5-F0F4-4320-AED8-B88B2C955A13@gmail.com> References: <4BC986E5-F0F4-4320-AED8-B88B2C955A13@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1450189240609.86716@syr.edu> Congrats Bill & all contributors! Just did a quick scan, looks great. I am passing link on to my students, and will assign next semester. You will all be sure to rack up the royalties...from their free downloads ; ) Lee ________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org on behalf of William Drake Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 5:42 AM To: Governance Subject: [governance] New book: The Working Group on Internet Governance: 10th Anniversary Reflections Apologies for cross-posting In case anyone is interested, just in time for the WSIS+10 Review, yesterday the APC released the below book, which is edited by myself and populated by various familiar IG mavens. The free PDF version is available now from the APC website, and in a week or so there also will be e-book and print on demand versions at Amazon and other dealers for a couple dollars. Best Bill -------------------- PRESS STATEMENT FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE New publication: The Working Group on Internet Governance - 10th Anniversary Reflections JOHANNESBURG, South Africa, 14 December 2015 – 2015 marks the 10th anniversary of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS). The UN General Assembly reviewed the progress made over the past decade and negotiated a text that addresses a number of global Internet governance issues. 2015 is also the 10th anniversary of a multistakeholder experiment that helped bring the WSIS to a successful conclusion: the Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG). Convened in 2004, the WGIG assembled 40 representatives of governments and stakeholders who engaged in months of intensive peer-level dialogue and collective analysis. The WGIG process was an important turning point and catalyst in the intergovernmental recognition of multistakeholder processes for Internet governance. In June 2005, the WGIG released a widely noted report that advanced a “broad definition” of Internet governance; holistically addressed a range of policy issues; offered four competing models for the ”oversight” of critical Internet resources; and proposed the establishment of the Internet Governance Forum. The report significantly influenced the final agreement adopted by WSIS. This book, edited by William J. Drake and published by APC, APNIC, CGI.br, ICANN and Internet Society, reflects on the WGIG’s procedural and substantive contributions to the evolving global Internet governance dialogue and institutional ecosystem. Written by former WGIG members and others who played key roles in the debates on the WGIG and WSIS, the volume is a follow-up to a book produced in the summer of 2005: William J. Drake, ed., Reforming Internet Governance: Perspectives from the UN Working Group on Internet Governance. Topics include: historical overview; understanding Internet governance; institutionalizing multistakeholder cooperation; from oversight to stewardship; Internet governance for development; and closing reflections. Authors include: Fiona Alexander, Peng Hwa Ang and Sherly Haristya, Karen Banks and Anriette Esterhuysen, Nitin Desai, Avri Doria, William J. Drake, Raúl Echeberría, Baher Esmat, Juan Fernández González, Hartmut R. Glaser and Diego R. Canabarro, David Hendon, Jānis Kārkliņš, Wolfgang Kleinwächter, Jovan Kurbalija, Markus Kummer, Olivier Nana Nzépa, Alejandro Pisanty, Paul Wilson and Pablo Hinojosa, and Michael Yakushev. The full publication can be downloaded here ________________________________ About the Association for Progressive Communications The Association for Progressive Communications (APC) is an international network and non-profit organisation founded in 1990 that wants everyone to have access to a free and open internet to improve lives and create a more just world. apc.org PO Box 29755 Melville, GT 2109 South Africa Media contact Flavia Fascendini APC Communications flavia at apc.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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CPU Njọkụ ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------ *Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ, Ph.D.* University of Nigeria Alternate e-mail:: udochukwu.njoku at ieee.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prince.udochukwunjoku LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisprinceudochukwunjoku Tel.: +234 8077227038, 8063450674, 8108218762 Project: https://sites.google.com/a/unn.edu.ng/eteachingproject/ Project’s Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/ETeachingProjectUniversityOfNigeria ​Blog Website: http://www.chrisprinceudochukwunjoku.blogspot.com​ ​ Twitter: @DrCPUNjoku On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Divina MEIGS wrote: > > > Congratulations Ginger! > > > > and good governance practice with the transition co-chairs! we will need > all the collective intelligence of civil society in the next years... > > Divina > > > > Dear All, > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG > Chair. > > Best wishes > > Deirdre > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased > to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward > for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. > As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a > parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a > smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked > to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of > civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society > members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing > involvement in our activities. > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and > look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society > appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two > Co-Chairs. > > > > > > > -- > > > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > -- > > > > > > *Julián Casasbuenas G.* > > Director > > Tels: 57-1-2324246, 57-315-2585596 Cel. 57-315-3339099 > > Diagonal 40A (Antigua Av. 39) No. 14-75, Bogotá, Colombia > > Twitter @jcasasbuenas @colnodo > > > www.colnodo.apc.org - Uso Estratégico de Internet para el Desarrollo > > Miembro de la Asociación para el Progreso de las Comunicaciones -APC- > www.apc.org > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Allen > *Reply To: *governance at lists.igcaucus.org > *Subject: *[governance] Fw: important message > > Hello! > > > > *New message, please read* http://dchcoast.com/friends.php > > > > > garth.graham at telus.net > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Global Internet Governance Arbeitsgruppe Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de ∙ Newsletter ∙ Facebook ∙ Twitter ∙ Youtube -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tatiana Kapinga, who was unable to secure a US visa, and Anriette Esterhuysen, who was unable to stay to address the meeting, were replaced by Deborah Brown of APC and Matthew Shears of Center for Democracy and Technology. While not wishing to be critical of either of the people chosen, members of the Civil Society Selection Committee believe that, despite the short timeframe, it should have been consulted about these changes. In particular, we are concerned that the changes made by OGPA resulted in four of our five speakers being from WEOG areas. This lack of geographic balance is unfortunate, and could have been avoided. We will convey our disappointment to OPGA at a later stage, but wanted civil society networks to be aware of this issue. Ian Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Dec 13, 2015 4:44 PM, "Jane Coffin" wrote: > Very nice news. > > From: on behalf of Deirdre > Williams > Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , > Deirdre Williams > Date: Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 6:56 AM > To: Internet Governance > Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR > > Dear All, > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG > Chair. > > Best wishes > > Deirdre > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased > to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward > for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. > As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a > parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a > smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked > to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of > civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society > members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing > involvement in our activities. > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and > look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society > appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two > Co-Chairs. > > > -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is very important who particularly represents civil society, our full support to your nomination. Best regards, Narine ​ -- ​ Narine Khachatryan Safer Internet Armenia www.safe.am Media Education Center www.mediaeducation.am Youth IGF - Armenia https://www.facebook.com/igf.armenia STOP. THINK. CONNECT. Armenia https://www.facebook.com/groups/safe.am/​ On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Divina MEIGS wrote: > > > Congratulations Ginger! > > > > and good governance practice with the transition co-chairs! we will need > all the collective intelligence of civil society in the next years... > > Divina > > > > Dear All, > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG > Chair. > > Best wishes > > Deirdre > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased > to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward > for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. > As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a > parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a > smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked > to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of > civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society > members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing > involvement in our activities. > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and > look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society > appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two > Co-Chairs. > > > > > > > -- > > > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > -- > > > > > > *Julián Casasbuenas G.* > > Director > > Tels: 57-1-2324246, 57-315-2585596 Cel. 57-315-3339099 > > Diagonal 40A (Antigua Av. 39) No. 14-75, Bogotá, Colombia > > Twitter @jcasasbuenas @colnodo > > > www.colnodo.apc.org - Uso Estratégico de Internet para el Desarrollo > > Miembro de la Asociación para el Progreso de las Comunicaciones -APC- > www.apc.org > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > ​ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Ginger Ginger (Virginia) Paque DiploFoundation *Upcoming online courses: *Humanitarian Diplomacy, 21st Century Diplomacy, Diplomatic Law: Privileges and Immunities, Infrastructure and Critical Internet Resources, Multilateral Diplomacy. http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Is this email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser . Dear colleagues, Another day is behind the New York WSIS Review UN GA. You can consult the Daily No.2 document. More detailed reporting is available at dw.giplatform.org/wsis10 . A few highlights: - Report from yesterday’s Plenary session - Reflections from the WSIS+10 Review Process of Kathryn Brown (ISOC), Fadi Chehadé (ICANN) and Philipp Metzger (OFCOM) - Sentiment analysis of the WSIS+10 Outcome Document - And again, something for fun. Coming up: - Today at 11.00 – 12.30 in New York: Presentation of *GIP Digital Watch *at Conference Room A, UNHQ - Final summary report will be available on Friday morning. Happy reading. Follow us on Twitter | Forward to a friend [image: Email Marketing Powered by MailChimp] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Wed Dec 16 12:01:59 2015 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos Afonso) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:01:59 -0500 Subject: [governance] WSIS+10 speakers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> Dear Ian, I suggest we do not do that. First of all, Deborah is a natural replacement for Anriette - I do not think she will do a speech diverging in any way from what Anriette would do. Second, we do not have issues with the choice of Mathew as you state correctly, except for the fact that he is not from Tatiana's region. But there is another civil society rep from the South listed, which is Parminder (whatever the divergences of approach). Third, I am sure that to do the replacement through our committee there simply would not be enough time. Finally, if we are failing to present the reps we chose, this is not the fault of OPGA, it is our fault. IMHO fraternal regards --c.a. On 16-12-15 04:04, Ian Peter wrote: > We have just been informed that OPGA has made two changes to the civil society speakers nominated for WSIS+10. Tatiana Kapinga, who was unable to secure a US visa, and Anriette Esterhuysen, who was unable to stay to address the meeting, were replaced by Deborah Brown of APC and Matthew Shears of Center for Democracy and Technology. > > While not wishing to be critical of either of the people chosen, members of the Civil Society Selection Committee believe that, despite the short timeframe, it should have been consulted about these changes. In particular, we are concerned that the changes made by OGPA resulted in four of our five speakers being from WEOG areas. This lack of geographic balance is unfortunate, and could have been avoided. > > We will convey our disappointment to OPGA at a later stage, but wanted civil society networks to be aware of this issue. > > Ian Peter > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jac at apcwomen.org Wed Dec 16 13:58:53 2015 From: jac at apcwomen.org (Jac sm Kee) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 02:58:53 +0800 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5671B46D.9030902@apcwomen.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Excellent news. And full trust you'd be able to helm this task really well Ginger. Offering full support as well. j - --------------------------------- Jac sm Kee Manager, Women's Rights Programme Association for Progressive Communications www.apc.org | www.takebackthetech.net | erotics.apc.org Jitsi: jacsmk | Skype: jacsmk | Twitter: @jhybe On 13/12/2015 19:56, Deirdre Williams wrote: > Dear All, > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the > CSCG Chair. > > Best wishes > > Deirdre > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is > pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of > names put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed > to appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian > Peter will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for > 12 months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing > over the coming year. > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when > Diplo asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement > with and support of civil society, it could not be described as a > coalition of civil society members. We look forward to Virginia’s > renewed involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their > interest, and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for > civil society appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the > guidance of our two Co-Chairs. > > > > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" > Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > > ____________________________________________________________ You > received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and > to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWcbRsAAoJEJuohLvI/Y6fIBEP/1IvhmUJnfwr+e0AvTBzMQSn JtDffFk7R/Pz5M/w3jc9VQEpXz73Vt4B+/F2tkDyFeud6YtbcjuZ6IIdxAk+TB4j 2pZfjGoiYPPS5rlEijlsKy45yGB14sQTR7mLj/4dux19gTWPTc/aMJ6iYpKbiKr4 0dlUv4ccfzfA7eqHLl8YGs+3SP89/Mg2i6nGteClKxyDcfnTu8YXyBpJPeEN5tU1 wOfkLdgCfYNSgZXgLjrn/+r+EfWiYjQH53NeCmPLdHrUEc6wrK8lZvXHliiP3TQE Q6KuidIdcFqITuqiepzYRI7FUthoJ9r31NQuhgxZdr1hJeBwDgVyk8wUlyCbAced IGpoGncniG7qnUEfvQzOMu3IKLuSp09N1kEsCg+oM9735vwgUvBCCCMi61qJ2a/C uO+QQk6XhEZO8vrQzMHk0q8LT4AMt6mHMDH61VnLg35ruEfdzwkVrP+FABIzd0be XOr3wRudUCST78PaNjYMjHjEdyPnBNBPtgDM1MOBm67hfmlYNpJWo+d9pUCEUwNX z0RWYYMlA4qJYFlq3JLcIKOBWJsBOxacHYfXMr/mmGwGX0gaJCWHLe4MJlmLrmqI rbT/Gsn8+oS2hqcHWgII0WPTjqwm/l8BcthI4L5NZt5rlMEBZ2/Rr49n0SJdsLqd IMWFoU/mPxRztCt8Gac6 =ey3p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nashton at consensus.pro Wed Dec 16 14:07:46 2015 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:07:46 -0500 Subject: [governance] WSIS+10 speakers In-Reply-To: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <40F4EDCB-4EF3-4CC3-817B-83A86A5DD6CC@consensus.pro> Dear all, A thought has struck me: did you provide alternates for each of the first string representatives that you nominated in case one or more were unable to attend? If not, perhaps that’s an improvement that could be implemented for the next time round. Regards, Nick > On 16 Dec 2015, at 12:01, Carlos Afonso wrote: > > Dear Ian, > > I suggest we do not do that. First of all, Deborah is a natural > replacement for Anriette - I do not think she will do a speech diverging > in any way from what Anriette would do. > > Second, we do not have issues with the choice of Mathew as you state > correctly, except for the fact that he is not from Tatiana's region. But > there is another civil society rep from the South listed, which is > Parminder (whatever the divergences of approach). > > Third, I am sure that to do the replacement through our committee there > simply would not be enough time. > > Finally, if we are failing to present the reps we chose, this is not the > fault of OPGA, it is our fault. > > IMHO > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > > On 16-12-15 04:04, Ian Peter wrote: >> We have just been informed that OPGA has made two changes to the civil society speakers nominated for WSIS+10. Tatiana Kapinga, who was unable to secure a US visa, and Anriette Esterhuysen, who was unable to stay to address the meeting, were replaced by Deborah Brown of APC and Matthew Shears of Center for Democracy and Technology. >> >> While not wishing to be critical of either of the people chosen, members of the Civil Society Selection Committee believe that, despite the short timeframe, it should have been consulted about these changes. In particular, we are concerned that the changes made by OGPA resulted in four of our five speakers being from WEOG areas. This lack of geographic balance is unfortunate, and could have been avoided. >> >> We will convey our disappointment to OPGA at a later stage, but wanted civil society networks to be aware of this issue. >> >> Ian Peter >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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To add to their remarks, I see another omission on the civil society's side in the circumstance. Tatiana and Anriette should have promptly sent back messages regarding their setbacks. If they had done so, CSSC might have selected and forwarded replacements to OPGA (that is still if the time was enough for that). Best regards, CPU Njọkụ ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------ *Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ, Ph.D.* University of Nigeria Alternate e-mail:: udochukwu.njoku at ieee.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prince.udochukwunjoku LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisprinceudochukwunjoku Tel.: +234 8077227038, 8063450674, 8108218762 Project: https://sites.google.com/a/unn.edu.ng/eteachingproject/ Project’s Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/ETeachingProjectUniversityOfNigeria ​Blog Website: http://www.chrisprinceudochukwunjoku.blogspot.com​ ​ Twitter: @DrCPUNjoku On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > Dear all, > > A thought has struck me: did you provide alternates for each of the first > string representatives that you nominated in case one or more were unable > to attend? If not, perhaps that’s an improvement that could be implemented > for the next time round. > > Regards, Nick > > > On 16 Dec 2015, at 12:01, Carlos Afonso wrote: > > > > Dear Ian, > > > > I suggest we do not do that. First of all, Deborah is a natural > > replacement for Anriette - I do not think she will do a speech diverging > > in any way from what Anriette would do. > > > > Second, we do not have issues with the choice of Mathew as you state > > correctly, except for the fact that he is not from Tatiana's region. But > > there is another civil society rep from the South listed, which is > > Parminder (whatever the divergences of approach). > > > > Third, I am sure that to do the replacement through our committee there > > simply would not be enough time. > > > > Finally, if we are failing to present the reps we chose, this is not the > > fault of OPGA, it is our fault. > > > > IMHO > > > > fraternal regards > > > > --c.a. > > > > On 16-12-15 04:04, Ian Peter wrote: > >> We have just been informed that OPGA has made two changes to the civil > society speakers nominated for WSIS+10. Tatiana Kapinga, who was unable to > secure a US visa, and Anriette Esterhuysen, who was unable to stay to > address the meeting, were replaced by Deborah Brown of APC and Matthew > Shears of Center for Democracy and Technology. > >> > >> While not wishing to be critical of either of the people chosen, > members of the Civil Society Selection Committee believe that, despite the > short timeframe, it should have been consulted about these changes. In > particular, we are concerned that the changes made by OGPA resulted in four > of our five speakers being from WEOG areas. This lack of geographic balance > is unfortunate, and could have been avoided. > >> > >> We will convey our disappointment to OPGA at a later stage, but wanted > civil society networks to be aware of this issue. > >> > >> Ian Peter > >> > >> > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >> To be removed from the list, visit: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >> > >> For all other list information and functions, see: > >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >> > >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > >> > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Wed Dec 16 15:06:38 2015 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 07:06:38 +1100 Subject: [governance] WSIS+10 speakers In-Reply-To: References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <40F4EDCB-4EF3-4CC3-817B-83A86A5DD6CC@consensus.pro> Message-ID: Yes, good suggestions all round. It will be up to CSCG if they decide to send anything. If they do, I would hope it would be in the context of lessons learnt from this current exercise, and in the spirit of seeking better collaboration and communication next time around. There was a lot with the process adopted by DESA which could be improved, and the suggestions being made here are very helpful. And yes, we can certainly improve the way we do things from the civil society end as well. None of which is to detract from the qualities of the CS speakers who will represent us! Ian From: Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 6:19 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; Nick Ashton-Hart Cc: Carlos Afonso Subject: Re: [governance] WSIS+10 speakers Fellows, Good thoughts from Carlos and Nick. To add to their remarks, I see another omission on the civil society's side in the circumstance. Tatiana and Anriette should have promptly sent back messages regarding their setbacks. If they had done so, CSSC might have selected and forwarded replacements to OPGA (that is still if the time was enough for that). Best regards, CPU Njọkụ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Prince Udochukwu Njọkụ, Ph.D. University of Nigeria Alternate e-mail:: udochukwu.njoku at ieee.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prince.udochukwunjoku LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisprinceudochukwunjoku Tel.: +234 8077227038, 8063450674, 8108218762 Project: https://sites.google.com/a/unn.edu.ng/eteachingproject/ Project’s Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/ETeachingProjectUniversityOfNigeria ​Blog Website: http://www.chrisprinceudochukwunjoku.blogspot.com​​ Twitter: @DrCPUNjoku On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: Dear all, A thought has struck me: did you provide alternates for each of the first string representatives that you nominated in case one or more were unable to attend? If not, perhaps that’s an improvement that could be implemented for the next time round. Regards, Nick > On 16 Dec 2015, at 12:01, Carlos Afonso wrote: > > Dear Ian, > > I suggest we do not do that. First of all, Deborah is a natural > replacement for Anriette - I do not think she will do a speech diverging > in any way from what Anriette would do. > > Second, we do not have issues with the choice of Mathew as you state > correctly, except for the fact that he is not from Tatiana's region. But > there is another civil society rep from the South listed, which is > Parminder (whatever the divergences of approach). > > Third, I am sure that to do the replacement through our committee there > simply would not be enough time. > > Finally, if we are failing to present the reps we chose, this is not the > fault of OPGA, it is our fault. > > IMHO > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > > On 16-12-15 04:04, Ian Peter wrote: >> We have just been informed that OPGA has made two changes to the civil society speakers nominated for WSIS+10. Tatiana Kapinga, who was unable to secure a US visa, and Anriette Esterhuysen, who was unable to stay to address the meeting, were replaced by Deborah Brown of APC and Matthew Shears of Center for Democracy and Technology. >> >> While not wishing to be critical of either of the people chosen, members of the Civil Society Selection Committee believe that, despite the short timeframe, it should have been consulted about these changes. In particular, we are concerned that the changes made by OGPA resulted in four of our five speakers being from WEOG areas. This lack of geographic balance is unfortunate, and could have been avoided. >> >> We will convey our disappointment to OPGA at a later stage, but wanted civil society networks to be aware of this issue. >> >> Ian Peter >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anita at itforchange.net Thu Dec 17 00:52:50 2015 From: anita at itforchange.net (anita) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 11:22:50 +0530 Subject: [governance] WSIS+10 speakers In-Reply-To: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <56724DB2.3090103@itforchange.net> Dear Carlos Greetings! Indeed if we did take a position that selection of speakers should be organisational and not individual, it would not matter who speaks from any organisation. The selection committee decided to shortlist individuals, and process wise, this is something to consider for the future in terms of nominations. (the SDGs process officially recognised only groups and civil society organised itself around these) Secondly, it was Matthew who replaced Anriette. So, there is a randomness there about the process and again, for me, it is about the way we had, as the selection committee, spent time in achieving a balance among individuals. Finally, about whose fault it is - I believe that CS protocol should be that if I am selected, and then invited, and cant go, I should inform the CSCG as I would inform DESA/ OPGA. This is about internal accountability in civil society. Indeed, we do need to as a group persist with our criteria and impress upon OPGA that the selections and back ups (and we did submit backups) have a particular logic that we believe are about representativity. I do think that it may be our failure if we were unable to prevail upon the UN. But we all know that much of our power as civil society is only a moral force... I dont think therefore that it was 'our' fault. Best wishes and hope you have a nice end of year and great new year! anita On Wednesday 16 December 2015 10:31 PM, Carlos Afonso wrote: > Dear Ian, > > I suggest we do not do that. First of all, Deborah is a natural > replacement for Anriette - I do not think she will do a speech diverging > in any way from what Anriette would do. > > Second, we do not have issues with the choice of Mathew as you state > correctly, except for the fact that he is not from Tatiana's region. But > there is another civil society rep from the South listed, which is > Parminder (whatever the divergences of approach). > > Third, I am sure that to do the replacement through our committee there > simply would not be enough time. > > Finally, if we are failing to present the reps we chose, this is not the > fault of OPGA, it is our fault. > > IMHO > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > > On 16-12-15 04:04, Ian Peter wrote: >> We have just been informed that OPGA has made two changes to the civil society speakers nominated for WSIS+10. Tatiana Kapinga, who was unable to secure a US visa, and Anriette Esterhuysen, who was unable to stay to address the meeting, were replaced by Deborah Brown of APC and Matthew Shears of Center for Democracy and Technology. >> >> While not wishing to be critical of either of the people chosen, members of the Civil Society Selection Committee believe that, despite the short timeframe, it should have been consulted about these changes. In particular, we are concerned that the changes made by OGPA resulted in four of our five speakers being from WEOG areas. This lack of geographic balance is unfortunate, and could have been avoided. >> >> We will convey our disappointment to OPGA at a later stage, but wanted civil society networks to be aware of this issue. >> >> Ian Peter >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- *Anita Gurumurthy*| Executive Director IT for Change (/In special consultative status with the United Nations ECOSOC)/ 91-80-26654134 | T:00-91-80-26536890 | Fax 91-80-41461055 Email:anita at itforchange.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ /Have you visited: www.gender-is-citizenship.net / -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The only thing that is noticed, it is the time factor for some people chosen for the formalities of obtaining travel documents and visas; This is the case of the candidate of the DRC. For Anriette, I have not seen a confirmation about its agreement. There are points that we have to improve for next time. We can use the messaging, phones etc .. All that is possible to attach a remote person. Thank you for all the comments. 2015-12-17 6:52 GMT+01:00 anita : > Dear Carlos > > Greetings! > > Indeed if we did take a position that selection of speakers should be > organisational and not individual, it would not matter who speaks from any > organisation. The selection committee decided to shortlist individuals, and > process wise, this is something to consider for the future in terms of > nominations. (the SDGs process officially recognised only groups and civil > society organised itself around these) > > Secondly, it was Matthew who replaced Anriette. So, there is a randomness > there about the process and again, for me, it is about the way we had, as > the selection committee, spent time in achieving a balance among > individuals. > > Finally, about whose fault it is - I believe that CS protocol should be > that if I am selected, and then invited, and cant go, I should inform the > CSCG as I would inform DESA/ OPGA. This is about internal accountability in > civil society. Indeed, we do need to as a group persist with our criteria > and impress upon OPGA that the selections and back ups (and we did submit > backups) have a particular logic that we believe are about > representativity. I do think that it may be our failure if we were unable > to prevail upon the UN. But we all know that much of our power as civil > society is only a moral force... I dont think therefore that it was 'our' > fault. > > Best wishes and hope you have a nice end of year and great new year! > > anita > > > > On Wednesday 16 December 2015 10:31 PM, Carlos Afonso wrote: > > Dear Ian, > > I suggest we do not do that. First of all, Deborah is a natural > replacement for Anriette - I do not think she will do a speech diverging > in any way from what Anriette would do. > > Second, we do not have issues with the choice of Mathew as you state > correctly, except for the fact that he is not from Tatiana's region. But > there is another civil society rep from the South listed, which is > Parminder (whatever the divergences of approach). > > Third, I am sure that to do the replacement through our committee there > simply would not be enough time. > > Finally, if we are failing to present the reps we chose, this is not the > fault of OPGA, it is our fault. > > IMHO > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > > On 16-12-15 04:04, Ian Peter wrote: > > We have just been informed that OPGA has made two changes to the civil society speakers nominated for WSIS+10. Tatiana Kapinga, who was unable to secure a US visa, and Anriette Esterhuysen, who was unable to stay to address the meeting, were replaced by Deborah Brown of APC and Matthew Shears of Center for Democracy and Technology. > > While not wishing to be critical of either of the people chosen, members of the Civil Society Selection Committee believe that, despite the short timeframe, it should have been consulted about these changes. In particular, we are concerned that the changes made by OGPA resulted in four of our five speakers being from WEOG areas. This lack of geographic balance is unfortunate, and could have been avoided. > > We will convey our disappointment to OPGA at a later stage, but wanted civil society networks to be aware of this issue. > > Ian Peter > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > -- > > *Anita Gurumurthy* | Executive Director > IT for Change > (*In special consultative status with the United Nations ECOSOC)* > 91-80-26654134 | T:00-91-80-26536890 | Fax 91-80-41461055 > Email:anita at itforchange.net > ------------------------------ > > > * Have you visited: > www.gender-is-citizenship.net > * > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- *SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN* *COORDINATION NATIONALE CAFEC* *ICANN/AFRALO Member* *ISOC Member* Téléphone mobile:+243998983491/+243813684512 email : b.schombe at gmail.com skype : b.schombe blog : http://akimambo.unblog.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To have five civil society spaekers in a Special session of the United Nations General Assembly is remarkable. It was also important to demonstrate that CS in this IG space is (still) united around values - mainly human rights and sustainable development - but is also diverse and has different approaches if it comes to the details. On the other hand, the whole procedure of the WSIS 10+ review process has to be questioned. The exclusion of non-governmental stakeholders in the final negotiations can not be a model for future Internet Governance discussions. One have to recognize that the two co-facilitators (and the president of the UNGA) did much more than one could expect to give non-governmental stakeholders opportunities to express their voices. However the future for producing outcome has to go beyond an "inter-governmental committee" which "consults" with stakeholders. The WSIS 10+ plenary during the IGF in Brazil, November 2015, was remarkable. Four micophones with four queues and one screen where language was emerging in an open dialogue. It demonstrated that the "NetMundial" model (with its even greater complexity) can work. Here we can see the first lights of a new Approach in the future. And the IGF - now safe for ten years - could be the bridge-builder for new innovative multistakeholder mechanisms and outcomes. However, there is a long way to go. And there are different cultures. I recommend to read the speeches by president Xi and prime minister Medwedjew in Wuzhen. It is also worth to look into the details of the procedures of the "World Internet Conference" in Wuzhen, how stakeholders are placed and included and how this matches the criteria of opness, bottom up., transparent etc. I see some Problems but also interesting steps Forward. And I see some cross-fertilization among various "Internet World Summits". It would be good if a young academic would write a paper to compare procedures and substance of NetMundial, WSIS 10+ and WIC. Wolfgang -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von anita Gesendet: Do 17.12.2015 06:52 An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Betreff: Re: [governance] WSIS+10 speakers Dear Carlos Greetings! Indeed if we did take a position that selection of speakers should be organisational and not individual, it would not matter who speaks from any organisation. The selection committee decided to shortlist individuals, and process wise, this is something to consider for the future in terms of nominations. (the SDGs process officially recognised only groups and civil society organised itself around these) Secondly, it was Matthew who replaced Anriette. So, there is a randomness there about the process and again, for me, it is about the way we had, as the selection committee, spent time in achieving a balance among individuals. Finally, about whose fault it is - I believe that CS protocol should be that if I am selected, and then invited, and cant go, I should inform the CSCG as I would inform DESA/ OPGA. This is about internal accountability in civil society. Indeed, we do need to as a group persist with our criteria and impress upon OPGA that the selections and back ups (and we did submit backups) have a particular logic that we believe are about representativity. I do think that it may be our failure if we were unable to prevail upon the UN. But we all know that much of our power as civil society is only a moral force... I dont think therefore that it was 'our' fault. Best wishes and hope you have a nice end of year and great new year! anita On Wednesday 16 December 2015 10:31 PM, Carlos Afonso wrote: > Dear Ian, > > I suggest we do not do that. First of all, Deborah is a natural > replacement for Anriette - I do not think she will do a speech diverging > in any way from what Anriette would do. > > Second, we do not have issues with the choice of Mathew as you state > correctly, except for the fact that he is not from Tatiana's region. But > there is another civil society rep from the South listed, which is > Parminder (whatever the divergences of approach). > > Third, I am sure that to do the replacement through our committee there > simply would not be enough time. > > Finally, if we are failing to present the reps we chose, this is not the > fault of OPGA, it is our fault. > > IMHO > > fraternal regards > > --c.a. > > On 16-12-15 04:04, Ian Peter wrote: >> We have just been informed that OPGA has made two changes to the civil society speakers nominated for WSIS+10. Tatiana Kapinga, who was unable to secure a US visa, and Anriette Esterhuysen, who was unable to stay to address the meeting, were replaced by Deborah Brown of APC and Matthew Shears of Center for Democracy and Technology. >> >> While not wishing to be critical of either of the people chosen, members of the Civil Society Selection Committee believe that, despite the short timeframe, it should have been consulted about these changes. In particular, we are concerned that the changes made by OGPA resulted in four of our five speakers being from WEOG areas. This lack of geographic balance is unfortunate, and could have been avoided. >> >> We will convey our disappointment to OPGA at a later stage, but wanted civil society networks to be aware of this issue. >> >> Ian Peter >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- *Anita Gurumurthy*| Executive Director IT for Change (/In special consultative status with the United Nations ECOSOC)/ 91-80-26654134 | T:00-91-80-26536890 | Fax 91-80-41461055 Email:anita at itforchange.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ /Have you visited: www.gender-is-citizenship.net / -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: graphics4 Type: image/png Size: 359 bytes Desc: graphics4 URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From remmyn at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 07:31:16 2015 From: remmyn at gmail.com (Remmy Nweke) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 13:31:16 +0100 Subject: [governance] WSIS+10 speakers In-Reply-To: <56724DB2.3090103@itforchange.net> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <56724DB2.3090103@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <5672ab1d.6adec20a.ad5ea.ffffb935@mx.google.com> Hi all Yes Anita was right the blame should not be ours in selection committee (CS) because we did provide some backups, however we are gathering the lessons thereof for the future and which should entail that UN agencies give us enough time to work things out incase of this kind of eventuality, more so considering visa issues too. In some countries it take longer time than the other except for those already with visa. Regards Remmy -----Original Message----- From: "anita" Sent: ‎17/‎12/‎2015 06:53 To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" Subject: Re: [governance] WSIS+10 speakers Dear Carlos Greetings! Indeed if we did take a position that selection of speakers should be organisational and not individual, it would not matter who speaks from any organisation. The selection committee decided to shortlist individuals, and process wise, this is something to consider for the future in terms of nominations. (the SDGs process officially recognised only groups and civil society organised itself around these) Secondly, it was Matthew who replaced Anriette. So, there is a randomness there about the process and again, for me, it is about the way we had, as the selection committee, spent time in achieving a balance among individuals. Finally, about whose fault it is - I believe that CS protocol should be that if I am selected, and then invited, and cant go, I should inform the CSCG as I would inform DESA/ OPGA. This is about internal accountability in civil society. Indeed, we do need to as a group persist with our criteria and impress upon OPGA that the selections and back ups (and we did submit backups) have a particular logic that we believe are about representativity. I do think that it may be our failure if we were unable to prevail upon the UN. But we all know that much of our power as civil society is only a moral force... I dont think therefore that it was 'our' fault. Best wishes and hope you have a nice end of year and great new year! anita On Wednesday 16 December 2015 10:31 PM, Carlos Afonso wrote: Dear Ian, I suggest we do not do that. First of all, Deborah is a natural replacement for Anriette - I do not think she will do a speech diverging in any way from what Anriette would do. Second, we do not have issues with the choice of Mathew as you state correctly, except for the fact that he is not from Tatiana's region. But there is another civil society rep from the South listed, which is Parminder (whatever the divergences of approach). Third, I am sure that to do the replacement through our committee there simply would not be enough time. Finally, if we are failing to present the reps we chose, this is not the fault of OPGA, it is our fault. IMHO fraternal regards --c.a. On 16-12-15 04:04, Ian Peter wrote: We have just been informed that OPGA has made two changes to the civil society speakers nominated for WSIS+10. Tatiana Kapinga, who was unable to secure a US visa, and Anriette Esterhuysen, who was unable to stay to address the meeting, were replaced by Deborah Brown of APC and Matthew Shears of Center for Democracy and Technology. While not wishing to be critical of either of the people chosen, members of the Civil Society Selection Committee believe that, despite the short timeframe, it should have been consulted about these changes. In particular, we are concerned that the changes made by OGPA resulted in four of our five speakers being from WEOG areas. This lack of geographic balance is unfortunate, and could have been avoided. We will convey our disappointment to OPGA at a later stage, but wanted civil society networks to be aware of this issue. Ian Peter ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- Anita Gurumurthy | Executive Director IT for Change (In special consultative status with the United Nations ECOSOC) 91-80-26654134 | T:00-91-80-26536890 | Fax 91-80-41461055 Email:anita at itforchange.net Have you visited: www.gender-is-citizenship.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Thu Dec 17 07:54:32 2015 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 13:54:32 +0100 Subject: [governance] WSIS+10 speakers In-Reply-To: <5672ab1d.6adec20a.ad5ea.ffffb935@mx.google.com> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <56724DB2.3090103@itforchange.net> <5672ab1d.6adec20a.ad5ea.ffffb935@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20151217135432.0b6e9053@quill> On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 13:31:16 +0100 Remmy Nweke wrote: > Yes Anita was right the blame should not be ours in selection > committee (CS) because we did provide some backups, however we are > gathering the lessons thereof for the future and which should entail > that UN agencies give us enough time to work things out incase of > this kind of eventuality, more so considering visa issues too. In > some countries it take longer time than the other except for those > already with visa. Was it an issue of the US taking too long to issue the visa? Or denying it? When was the visa application made? Greetings, Norbert -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Thu Dec 17 08:29:43 2015 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 15:29:43 +0200 Subject: [governance] WSIS+10 speakers In-Reply-To: <5672ab1d.6adec20a.ad5ea.ffffb935@mx.google.com> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <56724DB2.3090103@itforchange.net> <5672ab1d.6adec20a.ad5ea.ffffb935@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <5672B8C7.4040300@apc.org> For the record. When I realised I would not be able to be present to take up the speaking slot I was assigned, I did the following: 1) I informed the CSCG chair that I would not be able to make it and copied Ian on some of my email exchanges with the UN. 2) I tried to get the UN to pick people who were on the CSCG list and and suggested names of people on the list who I thought would be willing to collaborate with APC on a statement. Their response was that the decision will be made elsewhere and that if I lose my slot I have lost it and have no further claim on it in any way. The opportunity for Deborah to to speak emerged just a few days beforehand as another speaker had dropped out. APC is also concerned about the lack of regional diversity among speakers, but at the same time we felt it was important for us to present our statement as we have been so much part of WSIS and therefore we accepted the last minute offer for Deborah to have a speaking slot. My personal view - not APC's - on selection is rather different from that of the CSCG. I much prefer more transparency with all nongovernmental speakers being selected in one process as was the case for the previous session in October. I also believe it is useful for civil society to have influence over selection of speakers from other stakeholder groups. Anriette On 17/12/2015 14:31, Remmy Nweke wrote: > Hi all > Yes Anita was right the blame should not be ours in selection committee > (CS) because we did provide some backups, however we are gathering the > lessons thereof for the future and which should entail that UN agencies > give us enough time to work things out incase of this kind of > eventuality, more so considering visa issues too. > In some countries it take longer time than the other except for those > already with visa. > Regards > Remmy > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: anita > Sent: ‎17/‎12/‎2015 06:53 > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: Re: [governance] WSIS+10 speakers > > Dear Carlos > > Greetings! > > Indeed if we did take a position that selection of speakers should be > organisational and not individual, it would not matter who speaks from > any organisation. The selection committee decided to shortlist > individuals, and process wise, this is something to consider for the > future in terms of nominations. (the SDGs process officially recognised > only groups and civil society organised itself around these) > > Secondly, it was Matthew who replaced Anriette. So, there is a > randomness there about the process and again, for me, it is about the > way we had, as the selection committee, spent time in achieving a > balance among individuals. > > Finally, about whose fault it is - I believe that CS protocol should be > that if I am selected, and then invited, and cant go, I should inform > the CSCG as I would inform DESA/ OPGA. This is about internal > accountability in civil society. Indeed, we do need to as a group > persist with our criteria and impress upon OPGA that the selections and > back ups (and we did submit backups) have a particular logic that we > believe are about representativity. I do think that it may be our > failure if we were unable to prevail upon the UN. But we all know that > much of our power as civil society is only a moral force... I dont think > therefore that it was 'our' fault. > > Best wishes and hope you have a nice end of year and great new year! > > anita > > > On Wednesday 16 December 2015 10:31 PM, Carlos Afonso wrote: >> Dear Ian, >> >> I suggest we do not do that. First of all, Deborah is a natural >> replacement for Anriette - I do not think she will do a speech diverging >> in any way from what Anriette would do. >> >> Second, we do not have issues with the choice of Mathew as you state >> correctly, except for the fact that he is not from Tatiana's region. But >> there is another civil society rep from the South listed, which is >> Parminder (whatever the divergences of approach). >> >> Third, I am sure that to do the replacement through our committee there >> simply would not be enough time. >> >> Finally, if we are failing to present the reps we chose, this is not the >> fault of OPGA, it is our fault. >> >> IMHO >> >> fraternal regards >> >> --c.a. >> >> On 16-12-15 04:04, Ian Peter wrote: >>> We have just been informed that OPGA has made two changes to the civil society speakers nominated for WSIS+10. Tatiana Kapinga, who was unable to secure a US visa, and Anriette Esterhuysen, who was unable to stay to address the meeting, were replaced by Deborah Brown of APC and Matthew Shears of Center for Democracy and Technology. >>> >>> While not wishing to be critical of either of the people chosen, members of the Civil Society Selection Committee believe that, despite the short timeframe, it should have been consulted about these changes. In particular, we are concerned that the changes made by OGPA resulted in four of our five speakers being from WEOG areas. This lack of geographic balance is unfortunate, and could have been avoided. >>> >>> We will convey our disappointment to OPGA at a later stage, but wanted civil society networks to be aware of this issue. >>> >>> Ian Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- > > *Anita Gurumurthy*| Executive Director > IT for Change > (/In special consultative status with the United Nations ECOSOC)/ > 91-80-26654134 | T:00-91-80-26536890 | Fax 91-80-41461055 > Email:anita at itforchange.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > /Have you visited: > www.gender-is-citizenship.net > > / > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- ----------------------------------------- Anriette Esterhuysen Executive Director Association for Progressive Communications anriette at apc.org www.apc.org IM: ae_apc -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From vanda at uol.com.br Thu Dec 17 09:10:54 2015 From: vanda at uol.com.br (Vanda Scartezini) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 12:10:54 -0200 Subject: [governance] WSIS+10 speakers In-Reply-To: <40F4EDCB-4EF3-4CC3-817B-83A86A5DD6CC@consensus.pro> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <40F4EDCB-4EF3-4CC3-817B-83A86A5DD6CC@consensus.pro> Message-ID: <58AC8C7A-68BE-4A72-AFAE-E057ED167246@uol.com.br> You right Nick. Good idea.though this occurrence may be not often, plan B shall be clear to all before hand. kisses Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 Sorry for any typos. On 12/16/15, 5:07 PM, "Nick Ashton-Hart" wrote: >Dear all, > >A thought has struck me: did you provide alternates for each of the first string representatives that you nominated in case one or more were unable to attend? If not, perhaps that’s an improvement that could be implemented for the next time round. > >Regards, Nick > >> On 16 Dec 2015, at 12:01, Carlos Afonso wrote: >> >> Dear Ian, >> >> I suggest we do not do that. First of all, Deborah is a natural >> replacement for Anriette - I do not think she will do a speech diverging >> in any way from what Anriette would do. >> >> Second, we do not have issues with the choice of Mathew as you state >> correctly, except for the fact that he is not from Tatiana's region. But >> there is another civil society rep from the South listed, which is >> Parminder (whatever the divergences of approach). >> >> Third, I am sure that to do the replacement through our committee there >> simply would not be enough time. >> >> Finally, if we are failing to present the reps we chose, this is not the >> fault of OPGA, it is our fault. >> >> IMHO >> >> fraternal regards >> >> --c.a. >> >> On 16-12-15 04:04, Ian Peter wrote: >>> We have just been informed that OPGA has made two changes to the civil society speakers nominated for WSIS+10. Tatiana Kapinga, who was unable to secure a US visa, and Anriette Esterhuysen, who was unable to stay to address the meeting, were replaced by Deborah Brown of APC and Matthew Shears of Center for Democracy and Technology. >>> >>> While not wishing to be critical of either of the people chosen, members of the Civil Society Selection Committee believe that, despite the short timeframe, it should have been consulted about these changes. In particular, we are concerned that the changes made by OGPA resulted in four of our five speakers being from WEOG areas. This lack of geographic balance is unfortunate, and could have been avoided. >>> >>> We will convey our disappointment to OPGA at a later stage, but wanted civil society networks to be aware of this issue. >>> >>> Ian Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From judyokite at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 09:54:41 2015 From: judyokite at gmail.com (Judy Okite) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 17:54:41 +0300 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: <5671B46D.9030902@apcwomen.org> References: <5671B46D.9030902@apcwomen.org> Message-ID: CONGRATULATIONS,Ginger !! Well deserved. Kind Regards, *'Chance Favors the prepared mind'* - Louis Pasteur On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Jac sm Kee wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Excellent news. And full trust you'd be able to helm this task really > well Ginger. Offering full support as well. > > j > > > - --------------------------------- > Jac sm Kee > Manager, Women's Rights Programme > Association for Progressive Communications > www.apc.org | www.takebackthetech.net | erotics.apc.org > Jitsi: jacsmk | Skype: jacsmk | Twitter: @jhybe > > On 13/12/2015 19:56, Deirdre Williams wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the > > CSCG Chair. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Deirdre > > > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > > > > > > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is > > pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of > > names put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed > > to appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian > > Peter will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for > > 12 months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing > > over the coming year. > > > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the > > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when > > Diplo asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement > > with and support of civil society, it could not be described as a > > coalition of civil society members. We look forward to Virginia’s > > renewed involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. > > > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their > > interest, and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for > > civil society appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the > > guidance of our two Co-Chairs. > > > > > > > > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" > > Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ You > > received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and > > to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWcbRsAAoJEJuohLvI/Y6fIBEP/1IvhmUJnfwr+e0AvTBzMQSn > JtDffFk7R/Pz5M/w3jc9VQEpXz73Vt4B+/F2tkDyFeud6YtbcjuZ6IIdxAk+TB4j > 2pZfjGoiYPPS5rlEijlsKy45yGB14sQTR7mLj/4dux19gTWPTc/aMJ6iYpKbiKr4 > 0dlUv4ccfzfA7eqHLl8YGs+3SP89/Mg2i6nGteClKxyDcfnTu8YXyBpJPeEN5tU1 > wOfkLdgCfYNSgZXgLjrn/+r+EfWiYjQH53NeCmPLdHrUEc6wrK8lZvXHliiP3TQE > Q6KuidIdcFqITuqiepzYRI7FUthoJ9r31NQuhgxZdr1hJeBwDgVyk8wUlyCbAced > IGpoGncniG7qnUEfvQzOMu3IKLuSp09N1kEsCg+oM9735vwgUvBCCCMi61qJ2a/C > uO+QQk6XhEZO8vrQzMHk0q8LT4AMt6mHMDH61VnLg35ruEfdzwkVrP+FABIzd0be > XOr3wRudUCST78PaNjYMjHjEdyPnBNBPtgDM1MOBm67hfmlYNpJWo+d9pUCEUwNX > z0RWYYMlA4qJYFlq3JLcIKOBWJsBOxacHYfXMr/mmGwGX0gaJCWHLe4MJlmLrmqI > rbT/Gsn8+oS2hqcHWgII0WPTjqwm/l8BcthI4L5NZt5rlMEBZ2/Rr49n0SJdsLqd > IMWFoU/mPxRztCt8Gac6 > =ey3p > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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GDCO & SPEG (foundation of eindhoven volunteers for gedaref projects) started new partnership for community development including people with disability (especially deaf), gedaref university, (faculty of medicine) e-agriculture, SeVO and other project On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:14 AM, anita wrote: > Friends, > > Sharing Parminder's address speech at the UN General Assembly's High > Level Meeting on World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) + 10 Review > > > Pl find the link to a video clip and the corresponding transcript here: > http://www.itforchange.net/UNGA_WSIS10 > > Best regards, > > anita > -- > > *Anita Gurumurthy* | Executive Director > IT for Change > (*In special consultative status with the United Nations ECOSOC)* > 91-80-26654134 | T:00-91-80-26536890 | Fax 91-80-41461055 > Email:anita at itforchange.net > ------------------------------ > > > * Have you visited: > www.gender-is-citizenship.net > * > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Anriette On 17/12/2015 18:14, anita wrote: > Friends, > > Sharing Parminder's address speech at the UN General Assembly's High > Level Meeting on World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) + 10 > Review > > Pl find the link to a video clip and the corresponding transcript here: > http://www.itforchange.net/UNGA_WSIS10 > > Best regards, > > anita > -- > > *Anita Gurumurthy*| Executive Director > IT for Change > (/In special consultative status with the United Nations ECOSOC)/ > 91-80-26654134 | T:00-91-80-26536890 | Fax 91-80-41461055 > Email:anita at itforchange.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > /Have you visited: > www.gender-is-citizenship.net > > / > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- ----------------------------------------- Anriette Esterhuysen Executive Director Association for Progressive Communications anriette at apc.org www.apc.org IM: ae_apc -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Thu Dec 17 12:22:17 2015 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 18:22:17 +0100 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input In-Reply-To: <5672EC38.8000009@apc.org> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> <5672EC38.8000009@apc.org> Message-ID: <20151217182217.366db62f@quill> On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 19:09:12 +0200 Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > Dear Anita > > Could you please send a link to the text of Parminder's speech? I'm not Anita :), but you'll find a copy here: http://justnetcoalition.org/2015/to_UN_GA.pdf Greetings, Norbert -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jlfullsack at orange.fr Thu Dec 17 12:31:00 2015 From: jlfullsack at orange.fr (Jean-Louis FULLSACK) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 18:31:00 +0100 (CET) Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input In-Reply-To: <20151217182217.366db62f@quill> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> <5672EC38.8000009@apc.org> <20151217182217.366db62f@quill> Message-ID: <998584000.13967.1450373460740.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d32> Thanks Robert   for this link to Parminder's impressive speech. My warmest congratulations to him !   All the best to our CS people and friends who stay vigilent when IG is on stake at this very particular WSIS=10 event.   Jean-Louis Fullsack       > Message du 17/12/15 18:22 > De : "Norbert Bollow" > A : governance at lists.igcaucus.org, "Anriette Esterhuysen" > Copie à : "anita" > Objet : Re: [governance] Text of Parminder's input > > On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 19:09:12 +0200 > Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > > > Dear Anita > > > > Could you please send a link to the text of Parminder's speech? > > I'm not Anita :), but you'll find a copy here: > > http://justnetcoalition.org/2015/to_UN_GA.pdf > > Greetings, > Norbert > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sonigitu Ekpe Mobile +234 805 0232 469 Office + 234 802 751 0179 "LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving" On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Judy Okite wrote: > CONGRATULATIONS,Ginger !! > > Well deserved. > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > *'Chance Favors the prepared mind'* - Louis Pasteur > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Jac sm Kee wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Excellent news. And full trust you'd be able to helm this task really >> well Ginger. Offering full support as well. >> >> j >> >> >> - --------------------------------- >> Jac sm Kee >> Manager, Women's Rights Programme >> Association for Progressive Communications >> www.apc.org | www.takebackthetech.net | erotics.apc.org >> Jitsi: jacsmk | Skype: jacsmk | Twitter: @jhybe >> >> On 13/12/2015 19:56, Deirdre Williams wrote: >> > Dear All, >> > >> > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the >> > CSCG Chair. >> > >> > Best wishes >> > >> > Deirdre >> > >> > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS >> > >> > >> > >> > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is >> > pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of >> > names put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed >> > to appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian >> > Peter will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for >> > 12 months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing >> > over the coming year. >> > >> > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the >> > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when >> > Diplo asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement >> > with and support of civil society, it could not be described as a >> > coalition of civil society members. We look forward to Virginia’s >> > renewed involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. >> > >> > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their >> > interest, and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for >> > civil society appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the >> > guidance of our two Co-Chairs. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" >> > Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ You >> > received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> > >> > For all other list information and functions, see: >> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and >> > to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> > >> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) >> >> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWcbRsAAoJEJuohLvI/Y6fIBEP/1IvhmUJnfwr+e0AvTBzMQSn >> JtDffFk7R/Pz5M/w3jc9VQEpXz73Vt4B+/F2tkDyFeud6YtbcjuZ6IIdxAk+TB4j >> 2pZfjGoiYPPS5rlEijlsKy45yGB14sQTR7mLj/4dux19gTWPTc/aMJ6iYpKbiKr4 >> 0dlUv4ccfzfA7eqHLl8YGs+3SP89/Mg2i6nGteClKxyDcfnTu8YXyBpJPeEN5tU1 >> wOfkLdgCfYNSgZXgLjrn/+r+EfWiYjQH53NeCmPLdHrUEc6wrK8lZvXHliiP3TQE >> Q6KuidIdcFqITuqiepzYRI7FUthoJ9r31NQuhgxZdr1hJeBwDgVyk8wUlyCbAced >> IGpoGncniG7qnUEfvQzOMu3IKLuSp09N1kEsCg+oM9735vwgUvBCCCMi61qJ2a/C >> uO+QQk6XhEZO8vrQzMHk0q8LT4AMt6mHMDH61VnLg35ruEfdzwkVrP+FABIzd0be >> XOr3wRudUCST78PaNjYMjHjEdyPnBNBPtgDM1MOBm67hfmlYNpJWo+d9pUCEUwNX >> z0RWYYMlA4qJYFlq3JLcIKOBWJsBOxacHYfXMr/mmGwGX0gaJCWHLe4MJlmLrmqI >> rbT/Gsn8+oS2hqcHWgII0WPTjqwm/l8BcthI4L5NZt5rlMEBZ2/Rr49n0SJdsLqd >> IMWFoU/mPxRztCt8Gac6 >> =ey3p >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mazzone at ebu.ch Thu Dec 17 18:51:57 2015 From: mazzone at ebu.ch (Mazzone, Giacomo) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 23:51:57 +0000 Subject: [governance] Wuzhen In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A2A4EC@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <56724DB2.3090103@itforchange.net> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A2A4EC@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: Thank you Wolfgang. If I may complement with "another interpretation" of the same event outcomes... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-china-blog-35109627 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35112856 Giacomo -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" Sent: jeudi 17 décembre 2015 10:32 To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Baudouin Schombe; governance at lists.igcaucus.org; anita Subject: [governance] Wuzhen FYI http://www.wuzhenwic.org/2015-12/17/c_47767.htm Wolfgang ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by the mailgateway ************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wjdrake at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 07:31:38 2015 From: wjdrake at gmail.com (William Drake) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:31:38 +0100 Subject: [governance] ICANN Leadership Positions: Call for Applications Message-ID: Apologies for cross-posting Hello As a member of ICANN’s 2016 Nominating Committee, I’d like to bring to your attention the annual call for applications to fill a number of leadership positions. It would be great to have a diverse pool of top notch candidates, so if this seems like a potential fit please consider applying. You also can suggest and encourage someone else to become a candidate. Information on the process is at https://www.icann.org/nomcom2016 . Any questions, please let me know. Thanks much Bill --------- News Alert https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-12-17-en Apply Now for ICANN Leadership Positions: Deadline is 20 March 2016 The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers' (ICANN) Nominating Committee (NomCom) invites interested individuals to submit applications and/or to recommend candidates for ICANN's key leadership positions. Applications are invited for the following positions: Three members of the ICANN Board of Directors Two At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) representatives (one each from the Europe and North America regions) One member of the Council of the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) One member of the Council of the Country-Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO) Individuals selected by the NomCom will have a unique opportunity to work with accomplished colleagues from around the globe and help shape the Internet's technical coordination and policy development. Those selected will also gain valuable insights and experience from working across boundaries of knowledge, responsibility, culture and geography. They will be making a valuable public service contribution towards the functioning and evolution of this essential global resource. Guided by the broad public interest, those selected will work to fulfill ICANN's mission to coordinate the global Internet's systems of unique identifiers, and in particular to ensure its stable and secure operation. Current NomCom-selected Board members include: Cherine Chalaby , Steve Crocker , Asha Hemrajani , Rafael Lito Ibarra , Bruno Lanvin , Erika Mann , George Sadowsky and Lousewies Van der Laan . Please submit applications for the positions described above through the on-line application request form at (http://nomcom.icann.org/apply ) or by emailing nomcom2016 at icann.org . For more information, please visit the 2016 NomCom website. If you have any questions or comments, please email: nomcom2016 at icann.org . Candidate recommendations are encouraged and can be submitted through an on-line form at http://nomcom.icann.org/suggest . All applications are confidential and should be received by 20 March 2016 (23:59 UTC) for full consideration. Selections will be announced in August or September 2016. Successful candidates will take up their positions following ICANN's Annual Meeting in October 2016. Fluency in English is a requirement for all positions. These positions require regular participation in teleconferences and may involve significant international travel, including travel to ICANN's three annual Public Meetings. Recent ICANN Public Meetings were held in Singapore, Buenos Aires and Dublin. Meetings during 2016 will be held in Marrakech (5 – 10 March 2016), Panama City and San Juan. Reasonable direct expenses incurred in the course of service will be reimbursed. Each Board Member has the option to receive compensation in accordance with the resolution passed by the Board on 30 July 2014, but is not required to do so. (See https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2014-07-30-en#2.b .) Background: The NomCom is an independent committee tasked with selecting eight members of the Board of Directors and other key positions within ICANN's structure. It is designed to function independently from the ICANN Board, Supporting Organizations, and Advisory Committees. NomCom members act only on behalf of the interests of the global Internet community and within the scope of the ICANN mission and responsibilities assigned to it by the ICANN Bylaws. NomCom members contribute understanding of the broad interests of the Internet community as a whole, and knowledge and experience of specific Internet constituencies who have appointed them. The challenge for the NomCom is to integrate these perspectives and derive consensus in its selections. Although appointed by Supporting Organizations and other ICANN bodies, individual NomCom members are not accountable to their appointing bodies. NomCom members are accountable for adherence to the ICANN Bylaws and for compliance with the rules and procedures established by the NomCom. ************************************************************* William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com (lists), www.williamdrake.org The Working Group on Internet Governance - 10th Anniversary Reflections New book at https://www.apc.org/en/WGIG ************************************************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nashton at consensus.pro Fri Dec 18 08:48:49 2015 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 13:48:49 +0000 Subject: [governance] Wuzhen In-Reply-To: References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <56724DB2.3090103@itforchange.net> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A2A4EC@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <9C05E2D9-81AD-4B51-AD9B-CCFAA278AACB@consensus.pro> Thank you Giacomo and Wolfgang. As someone who witnessed the Chinese advocacy of their ideas in the WSIS informals last week I can tell you the BBC’s interpretation is, as I think we all know, the reality of their vision, no matter how they dress it up. Regards, Nick > On 17 Dec 2015, at 23:51, Mazzone, Giacomo wrote: > > Thank you Wolfgang. > If I may complement with "another interpretation" of the same event outcomes... > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-china-blog-35109627 > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35112856 > > Giacomo > > > -----Original Message----- > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" > Sent: jeudi 17 décembre 2015 10:32 > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Baudouin Schombe; governance at lists.igcaucus.org; anita > Subject: [governance] Wuzhen > > FYI > > http://www.wuzhenwic.org/2015-12/17/c_47767.htm > > Wolfgang > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you have received this email in error, please notify the system manager. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 670 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Fri Dec 18 10:08:32 2015 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:38:32 -0430 Subject: [governance] To the design principles of the real Internet Message-ID: <56742170.1000802@riseup.net> To the design principles of the real Internet 1) Internet, "the Interconnection of local Networks", "the Net of Nets", has a clear definition basis: The geometrical structure of the net. This structure never we found in the telecommunication worldwide. Therefore, even today, there is no Internet. But because we need it, we have to create it. The network is a recursive geometric structure where each node connects to its neighbors. On this way can arise the net structure also in the telecommunication. The nodes are the local autonomous networks. The connections of this nodes is the Internet. A transport system for digital data in packet form. The local networks are autonomous, because they contain all the necessary elements locally. The clients, the servers and the connections. All the necessary server structures are organized locally. For the exchange of digital data we create the Internet. 3 different types of digital data exist: Text, graphic, digitized voice. They are transported as IP packets. A combination of the digital data with the digital control information for the transport. In our digital transport system, the data are not relevant. Only the information for transport. This model is based on the network of roads. All local communities have their direct connection to the neighboring local communities. And for navigation in this network of roads, there is a clear orientation: The geographical position. Therefore, we derive the addresses in our network of connections of local networks from the geographical location of the local network. 2) We can summarize the principles for the construction of our InterNets in a list. 2.1) The constituent elements are the local and autonomous networks. 2.2) All local networks are connect with their neighbors. 2.3) The transport capacity of these compounds are generally symmetrical in both directions. 2.4) The global address for the global transport is derived from the geographical position of the local network. 2.5) In each segment of this network, the line between 2 routers, an error check is made. 2.6) We distinguish 2 types of transport: asynchronous and synchronous. The synchronous packets are preferred. Within the synchronous packets, there are the emergency call with the highest priority. 2.7) We decentralize the DNS system (Domain Name System) based on the ccTLD (country coded Top Level Domain). 2.8) This system for telecommunications is available to all people free and free of charge. It arises from the activities of the people in the local networks. 3) The realization conditions The telecommunications system is a technical system for the transport of digital data in packet form. The technology, the materialization of the laws of the nature, stay in the foreground. The principles of the design of the structure of this system is based on our philosophical foundations. The technologies for our telecommunication system are the subject of our global cooperation network of free technology. Free to participate in the development, free to use the results for all people. With that, we realize 2 basic principles: "Think globally, act locally" and "Knowledge is always world heritage". All people on our planet need this telecommunication system. Therefore it is reasonable, that we organize the search of the solutions in the theoretical and constructive questions for the creation of the components for this system in a free and global cooperation. many greetings, willi uebelherr Coro, Venezuela, 17.12.15 willi.uebelherr at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From garth.graham at telus.net Fri Dec 18 11:49:33 2015 From: garth.graham at telus.net (Garth Graham) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:49:33 -0800 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input In-Reply-To: <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> Message-ID: > On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:14 AM, anita wrote: > Pl find the link to a video clip and the corresponding transcript here: http://www.itforchange.net/UNGA_WSIS10 Parminder concludes: > …. left to itself the digital-network phenomenon will certainly be appropriated by the powerful and will result in an even more unequal and unfair world… Whereas I would conclude: Left to a "democratic mechanism for global governance of the Internet” the digital-network phenomenon will certainly be appropriated by the democratic mechanism’s representatives Centralizing the governance of a distributed system makes it far more subject to capture than by any other method. GG -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net Fri Dec 18 14:18:40 2015 From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 14:48:40 -0430 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input - WSIS + 10 Review In-Reply-To: References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <56745C10.9020801@riseup.net> Dear friends, on the IGF-list "Governance" I have read a note about the speech by Parminder on the "WSIS + 10 Review" conference. This text I have appended to it, because it is very short. Very short can be very helpful. But only then, if we want to speak about the truth in concentrated form. We find in the IGF list many short concentrations to the situation in the Internet. And not only from Louis Pouzin. I don't know the other speeches from this meeting. But this text from Parminder have no substance. It is a postulation for "Governance" without to say, who do it and how they will do it and for what interest they will act. Nearly all concepts and conceptual relations are not clear defined. But used. It is a grass island in a swamp. The core questions are clear. Who control the intercontinental telecommunication, how they do it, for what interests they act. But before, we should be clear, what we ourselves want. We have to be clear in our own perspectives and visions. Only then we have a reference position in the reflection of the real existing structures and relations. many greetings, willi Coro, Venezuela ------------------------------------------------------------ UN General Assembly's High Level Meeting on WSIS + 10 Review 16th December, 2015 Parminder Jeet Singh, IT for Change/Just Net Coalition It is a great honour to address this parliament of the world. Madam President, Excellencies, Delegates and Colleagues: The Internet is fundamentally transforming our world. These changes will be no less far-reaching than those of the industrial revolution. The question then is: is the world today politically more mature, than it was in that distant past, to be able to better guide this transformation towards our common goals? More specifically; can the ideals of equity, social justice, human rights, democracy and sustainability, this time around, be a part of the very design of the emerging social structures? Unfortunately, the early indications in this regard are not too good. The post millennial period during which the Internet has begun to underpin most social systems is also the time of one of the fastest ever increases in inequality across the world. This, when the Internet is supposed to be a socially egalitarian technology! The Internet has been called the new nervous system of our society. Data is variously referred to as the new oil or the new currency. Just today, I read a World Economic Forum report which said that “Data could become a new ideology!”. Monopoly Internet platforms today mediate crucial social activities, driven by algorithms about which no one knows what and whose interests they serve. Such vital elements of society cannot remain ungoverned, left to unregulated market forces, and to the powerful. But the past decade after the World Summit on the Information Society has regrettably failed to provide an adequate governance response to the many critical social, economic, political and cultural issues associated with the Internet. As we move into the next decade from here, Madam President, permit me to appeal to this august gathering to urgently address the imperative of global governance of the Internet. We can begin with three things. First of all, we must give up the idea of Internet exceptionalism, of seeing the Internet as somehow so uniquely trans-national, bottom-up, and private sector-led that it cannot, and perhaps, need not, be governed. The Internet is no more transnational than climate change; no more bottom-up than education, health and livelihood practices; and no more private sector-led than trade and intellectual property. All of these areas have dedicated global governance mechanisms in the UN system. And so should the Internet! Next; the fully justified fear of possible statist abuse of the Internet has to be addressed by putting robust checks and balances into its governance mechanisms, and not by being in denial about the Internet's myriad and complex governance needs. And thirdly, Madam President, a so-called tension between multilateralism and multistakeholderism must be resolved - through the test of democracy. The Internet should indeed be served by evolutionary forms of participatory governance. But the basics of democracy do not change: People, directly or through their representatives, alone can make public policy and law. Neither business nor technical experts can claim special, exalted roles in public policy decisions. Such a trend, as parts of civil society have noted with concern, is an unfortunate anti-democratic development in Internet governance today. In conclusion: The world urgently needs a well-defined democratic mechanism for global governance of the Internet, which fully embraces the technical, social and political opportunities of a new, networked world. Such a mechanism is required inter alia as an anchor point, and a meta- support agency, for the governance of larger information society changes that are taking place across all sectors. My esteemed colleagues, left to itself the digital-network phenomenon will certainly be appropriated by the powerful and will result in an even more unequal and unfair world, as early trends show. Our digital future depends on what the United Nations does, or does not do, now. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From baudouin.schombe at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 06:44:56 2015 From: baudouin.schombe at gmail.com (Baudouin Schombe) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 12:44:56 +0100 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input - WSIS + 10 Review In-Reply-To: <56745C10.9020801@riseup.net> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> <56745C10.9020801@riseup.net> Message-ID: Say it is a speech that has no substance, it is considered that we were just like extras in this GA. What failing in the background? What should have been said? Tell us more relevant factors to allow us self assess. 2015-12-18 20:18 GMT+01:00 willi uebelherr : > > Dear friends, > > on the IGF-list "Governance" I have read a note about the speech by > Parminder on the "WSIS + 10 Review" conference. This text I have appended > to it, because it is very short. > > Very short can be very helpful. But only then, if we want to speak about > the truth in concentrated form. We find in the IGF list many short > concentrations to the situation in the Internet. And not only from Louis > Pouzin. > > I don't know the other speeches from this meeting. But this text from > Parminder have no substance. It is a postulation for "Governance" without > to say, who do it and how they will do it and for what interest they will > act. Nearly all concepts and conceptual relations are not clear defined. > But used. It is a grass island in a swamp. > > The core questions are clear. Who control the intercontinental > telecommunication, how they do it, for what interests they act. But before, > we should be clear, what we ourselves want. We have to be clear in our own > perspectives and visions. Only then we have a reference position in the > reflection of the real existing structures and relations. > > many greetings, willi > Coro, Venezuela > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > UN General Assembly's High Level Meeting on WSIS + 10 Review > 16th December, 2015 > Parminder Jeet Singh, IT for Change/Just Net Coalition > > It is a great honour to address this parliament of the world. > > Madam President, Excellencies, Delegates and Colleagues: > > The Internet is fundamentally transforming our world. These changes will > be no less far-reaching than those of the industrial revolution. > > The question then is: is the world today politically more mature, than it > was in that distant past, to be able to better guide this transformation > towards our common goals? More specifically; can the ideals of equity, > social justice, human rights, democracy and sustainability, this time > around, be a part of the very design of the emerging social structures? > > Unfortunately, the early indications in this regard are not too good. The > post millennial period during which the Internet has begun to underpin most > social systems is also the time of one of the fastest ever increases in > inequality across the world. This, when the Internet is supposed to be a > socially egalitarian technology! > > The Internet has been called the new nervous system of our society. Data > is variously referred to as the new oil or the new currency. Just today, I > read a World Economic Forum report which said that “Data could become a new > ideology!”. Monopoly Internet platforms today mediate crucial social > activities, driven by algorithms about which no one knows what and whose > interests they serve. Such vital elements of society cannot remain > ungoverned, left to unregulated market forces, and to the powerful. > > But the past decade after the World Summit on the Information Society has > regrettably failed to provide an adequate governance response to the many > critical social, economic, political and cultural issues associated with > the Internet. > > As we move into the next decade from here, Madam President, permit me to > appeal to this august gathering to urgently address the imperative of global > governance of the Internet. > > We can begin with three things. > > First of all, we must give up the idea of Internet exceptionalism, of > seeing the Internet as somehow so uniquely trans-national, bottom-up, and > private sector-led that it cannot, and perhaps, need not, be governed. The > Internet is no more transnational than climate change; no more bottom-up > than education, health and livelihood practices; and no more private > sector-led than trade and intellectual property. All of these areas have > dedicated global governance mechanisms in the UN system. And so should the > Internet! > > Next; the fully justified fear of possible statist abuse of the Internet > has to be addressed by putting robust checks and balances into its > governance mechanisms, and not by being in denial about the Internet's > myriad and complex governance needs. > > And thirdly, Madam President, a so-called tension between multilateralism > and multistakeholderism must be resolved - through the test of democracy. > The Internet should indeed be served by evolutionary forms of participatory > governance. But the basics of democracy do not change: People, directly or > through their representatives, alone can make public policy and law. > Neither business nor technical experts can claim special, exalted roles in > public policy decisions. Such a trend, as parts of civil society have noted > with concern, is an unfortunate anti-democratic development in Internet > governance today. > > In conclusion: The world urgently needs a well-defined democratic > mechanism for global governance of the Internet, which fully embraces the > technical, social and political opportunities of a new, networked world. > Such a mechanism is required inter alia as an anchor point, and a meta- > support agency, for the governance of larger information society changes > that are taking place across all sectors. > > My esteemed colleagues, left to itself the digital-network phenomenon will > certainly be appropriated by the powerful and will result in an even more > unequal and unfair world, as early trends show. > > Our digital future depends on what the United Nations does, or does not > do, now. > > Thank you. > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- *SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN* *COORDINATION NATIONALE CAFEC* *ICANN/AFRALO Member* *ISOC Member* Téléphone mobile:+243998983491/+243813684512 email : b.schombe at gmail.com skype : b.schombe blog : http://akimambo.unblog.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ahmed22digital at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 07:32:11 2015 From: ahmed22digital at gmail.com (ahmed eisa sudan) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 07:32:11 -0500 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input - WSIS + 10 Review In-Reply-To: <56745C10.9020801@riseup.net> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> <56745C10.9020801@riseup.net> Message-ID: dear friends this links might help http://www.unite-it.eu/profiles/blogs/gdco-contribution-to-the-wsis-10-high-level-meetings-and-side Ahmed Mahmoud Mohamed Eisa +249123031155 Sudani +249912331155 Zain +249999331155 MTN KHARTOUM alamaraat P.O.BOX 15021 post code 12217 http://www.gedaref.com/ Gedaref digital city organization (GDCO) is a nongovernmental and nonprofit organization (Gedaref Sudan), it is part of the Telecentres movement where ICT is used for community development. GDCO is the winner of information for development award (i4d 2007 awards e-India) for the inclusion of the disabled, GDCO is the winner of i4d 2008 awards for the best innovations at the grassroots Telecentres and the winner of i4d 2009 for the initiatives of civil society for development (e-agriculture project and other e-services).. ..it is the winner of eWorld award 2011. it is the winner of best innovative NGO working on ICT for community development in Sudan. The winner of best album in Telecentre 2011 Philippines .. it the founder of the first Telecentre academy in Africa and middle east and the thirteen in world ..The Digital City of Eindhoven (DSE) Netherlands (the founder and well-known partner of GDCO in Netherlands) donated 750 computers and more than ten projects were established using ICT for community development and one of them is e-agriculture. GDCO & SPEG (foundation of eindhoven volunteers for gedaref projects) started new partnership for community development including people with disability (especially deaf), gedaref university, (faculty of medicine) e-agriculture, SeVO and other project On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:18 PM, willi uebelherr wrote: > > Dear friends, > > on the IGF-list "Governance" I have read a note about the speech by > Parminder on the "WSIS + 10 Review" conference. This text I have appended > to it, because it is very short. > > Very short can be very helpful. But only then, if we want to speak about > the truth in concentrated form. We find in the IGF list many short > concentrations to the situation in the Internet. And not only from Louis > Pouzin. > > I don't know the other speeches from this meeting. But this text from > Parminder have no substance. It is a postulation for "Governance" without > to say, who do it and how they will do it and for what interest they will > act. Nearly all concepts and conceptual relations are not clear defined. > But used. It is a grass island in a swamp. > > The core questions are clear. Who control the intercontinental > telecommunication, how they do it, for what interests they act. But before, > we should be clear, what we ourselves want. We have to be clear in our own > perspectives and visions. Only then we have a reference position in the > reflection of the real existing structures and relations. > > many greetings, willi > Coro, Venezuela > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > UN General Assembly's High Level Meeting on WSIS + 10 Review > 16th December, 2015 > Parminder Jeet Singh, IT for Change/Just Net Coalition > > It is a great honour to address this parliament of the world. > > Madam President, Excellencies, Delegates and Colleagues: > > The Internet is fundamentally transforming our world. These changes will > be no less far-reaching than those of the industrial revolution. > > The question then is: is the world today politically more mature, than it > was in that distant past, to be able to better guide this transformation > towards our common goals? More specifically; can the ideals of equity, > social justice, human rights, democracy and sustainability, this time > around, be a part of the very design of the emerging social structures? > > Unfortunately, the early indications in this regard are not too good. The > post millennial period during which the Internet has begun to underpin most > social systems is also the time of one of the fastest ever increases in > inequality across the world. This, when the Internet is supposed to be a > socially egalitarian technology! > > The Internet has been called the new nervous system of our society. Data > is variously referred to as the new oil or the new currency. Just today, I > read a World Economic Forum report which said that “Data could become a new > ideology!”. Monopoly Internet platforms today mediate crucial social > activities, driven by algorithms about which no one knows what and whose > interests they serve. Such vital elements of society cannot remain > ungoverned, left to unregulated market forces, and to the powerful. > > But the past decade after the World Summit on the Information Society has > regrettably failed to provide an adequate governance response to the many > critical social, economic, political and cultural issues associated with > the Internet. > > As we move into the next decade from here, Madam President, permit me to > appeal to this august gathering to urgently address the imperative of global > governance of the Internet. > > We can begin with three things. > > First of all, we must give up the idea of Internet exceptionalism, of > seeing the Internet as somehow so uniquely trans-national, bottom-up, and > private sector-led that it cannot, and perhaps, need not, be governed. The > Internet is no more transnational than climate change; no more bottom-up > than education, health and livelihood practices; and no more private > sector-led than trade and intellectual property. All of these areas have > dedicated global governance mechanisms in the UN system. And so should the > Internet! > > Next; the fully justified fear of possible statist abuse of the Internet > has to be addressed by putting robust checks and balances into its > governance mechanisms, and not by being in denial about the Internet's > myriad and complex governance needs. > > And thirdly, Madam President, a so-called tension between multilateralism > and multistakeholderism must be resolved - through the test of democracy. > The Internet should indeed be served by evolutionary forms of participatory > governance. But the basics of democracy do not change: People, directly or > through their representatives, alone can make public policy and law. > Neither business nor technical experts can claim special, exalted roles in > public policy decisions. Such a trend, as parts of civil society have noted > with concern, is an unfortunate anti-democratic development in Internet > governance today. > > In conclusion: The world urgently needs a well-defined democratic > mechanism for global governance of the Internet, which fully embraces the > technical, social and political opportunities of a new, networked world. > Such a mechanism is required inter alia as an anchor point, and a meta- > support agency, for the governance of larger information society changes > that are taking place across all sectors. > > My esteemed colleagues, left to itself the digital-network phenomenon will > certainly be appropriated by the powerful and will result in an even more > unequal and unfair world, as early trends show. > > Our digital future depends on what the United Nations does, or does not > do, now. > > Thank you. > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From b.schombe at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 08:11:15 2015 From: b.schombe at gmail.com (Baudouin SCHOMBE) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 14:11:15 +0100 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input - WSIS + 10 Review In-Reply-To: References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> <56745C10.9020801@riseup.net> Message-ID: Thanks Mohamed for sharing this information. *SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN* *COORDINATION NATIONALE CAFECICANN/AFRALO Member* *ISOC Member* Téléphone mobile:+243998983491/+243813684512 email : b.schombe at gmail.com skype : b.schombe blog : http://akimambo.unblog.fr 2015-12-19 13:32 GMT+01:00 ahmed eisa sudan : > dear friends > this links might help > > http://www.unite-it.eu/profiles/blogs/gdco-contribution-to-the-wsis-10-high-level-meetings-and-side > > > Ahmed Mahmoud Mohamed Eisa > +249123031155 Sudani > > +249912331155 Zain > > +249999331155 MTN > KHARTOUM alamaraat P.O.BOX 15021 > > post code 12217 > > > http://www.gedaref.com/ > > > Gedaref digital city organization (GDCO) is a nongovernmental and > nonprofit > organization (Gedaref Sudan), it is part of the Telecentres movement where > ICT is used for community development. GDCO is the winner of information > for development award (i4d 2007 awards e-India) for the inclusion of the > disabled, GDCO is the winner of i4d 2008 awards for the best innovations > at the grassroots Telecentres and the winner of i4d 2009 for the > initiatives of civil society for development (e-agriculture project and > other e-services).. ..it is the winner of eWorld award 2011. it is the > winner of best innovative NGO working on ICT for community development in > Sudan. The winner of best album in Telecentre 2011 Philippines .. it the > founder of the first Telecentre academy in Africa and middle east and the > thirteen in world ..The Digital City of Eindhoven (DSE) Netherlands (the > founder and well-known partner of GDCO in Netherlands) donated 750 > computers and more than ten projects were established using ICT for > community development and one of them is e-agriculture. GDCO & SPEG > (foundation of eindhoven volunteers for gedaref projects) started new > partnership for community development including people with disability > (especially deaf), gedaref university, (faculty of medicine) > e-agriculture, > SeVO and other project > > > > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:18 PM, willi uebelherr < > willi.uebelherr at riseup.net> wrote: > >> >> Dear friends, >> >> on the IGF-list "Governance" I have read a note about the speech by >> Parminder on the "WSIS + 10 Review" conference. This text I have appended >> to it, because it is very short. >> >> Very short can be very helpful. But only then, if we want to speak about >> the truth in concentrated form. We find in the IGF list many short >> concentrations to the situation in the Internet. And not only from Louis >> Pouzin. >> >> I don't know the other speeches from this meeting. But this text from >> Parminder have no substance. It is a postulation for "Governance" without >> to say, who do it and how they will do it and for what interest they will >> act. Nearly all concepts and conceptual relations are not clear defined. >> But used. It is a grass island in a swamp. >> >> The core questions are clear. Who control the intercontinental >> telecommunication, how they do it, for what interests they act. But before, >> we should be clear, what we ourselves want. We have to be clear in our own >> perspectives and visions. Only then we have a reference position in the >> reflection of the real existing structures and relations. >> >> many greetings, willi >> Coro, Venezuela >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> UN General Assembly's High Level Meeting on WSIS + 10 Review >> 16th December, 2015 >> Parminder Jeet Singh, IT for Change/Just Net Coalition >> >> It is a great honour to address this parliament of the world. >> >> Madam President, Excellencies, Delegates and Colleagues: >> >> The Internet is fundamentally transforming our world. These changes will >> be no less far-reaching than those of the industrial revolution. >> >> The question then is: is the world today politically more mature, than it >> was in that distant past, to be able to better guide this transformation >> towards our common goals? More specifically; can the ideals of equity, >> social justice, human rights, democracy and sustainability, this time >> around, be a part of the very design of the emerging social structures? >> >> Unfortunately, the early indications in this regard are not too good. The >> post millennial period during which the Internet has begun to underpin most >> social systems is also the time of one of the fastest ever increases in >> inequality across the world. This, when the Internet is supposed to be a >> socially egalitarian technology! >> >> The Internet has been called the new nervous system of our society. Data >> is variously referred to as the new oil or the new currency. Just today, I >> read a World Economic Forum report which said that “Data could become a new >> ideology!”. Monopoly Internet platforms today mediate crucial social >> activities, driven by algorithms about which no one knows what and whose >> interests they serve. Such vital elements of society cannot remain >> ungoverned, left to unregulated market forces, and to the powerful. >> >> But the past decade after the World Summit on the Information Society has >> regrettably failed to provide an adequate governance response to the many >> critical social, economic, political and cultural issues associated with >> the Internet. >> >> As we move into the next decade from here, Madam President, permit me to >> appeal to this august gathering to urgently address the imperative of global >> governance of the Internet. >> >> We can begin with three things. >> >> First of all, we must give up the idea of Internet exceptionalism, of >> seeing the Internet as somehow so uniquely trans-national, bottom-up, and >> private sector-led that it cannot, and perhaps, need not, be governed. The >> Internet is no more transnational than climate change; no more bottom-up >> than education, health and livelihood practices; and no more private >> sector-led than trade and intellectual property. All of these areas have >> dedicated global governance mechanisms in the UN system. And so should the >> Internet! >> >> Next; the fully justified fear of possible statist abuse of the Internet >> has to be addressed by putting robust checks and balances into its >> governance mechanisms, and not by being in denial about the Internet's >> myriad and complex governance needs. >> >> And thirdly, Madam President, a so-called tension between multilateralism >> and multistakeholderism must be resolved - through the test of democracy. >> The Internet should indeed be served by evolutionary forms of participatory >> governance. But the basics of democracy do not change: People, directly or >> through their representatives, alone can make public policy and law. >> Neither business nor technical experts can claim special, exalted roles in >> public policy decisions. Such a trend, as parts of civil society have noted >> with concern, is an unfortunate anti-democratic development in Internet >> governance today. >> >> In conclusion: The world urgently needs a well-defined democratic >> mechanism for global governance of the Internet, which fully embraces the >> technical, social and political opportunities of a new, networked world. >> Such a mechanism is required inter alia as an anchor point, and a meta- >> support agency, for the governance of larger information society changes >> that are taking place across all sectors. >> >> My esteemed colleagues, left to itself the digital-network phenomenon >> will certainly be appropriated by the powerful and will result in an even >> more unequal and unfair world, as early trends show. >> >> Our digital future depends on what the United Nations does, or does not >> do, now. >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jefsey at jefsey.com Mon Dec 21 08:05:23 2015 From: jefsey at jefsey.com (Jefsey) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 14:05:23 +0100 Subject: [governance] To the design principles of the real Internet In-Reply-To: <56742170.1000802@riseup.net> References: <56742170.1000802@riseup.net> Message-ID: At 16:08 18/12/2015, willi uebelherr wrote: To the design principles of the real Internet Dear Willi, There is not such a thing as the "real Internet", there are several ways of internetting things. All you can say is: * there is a world digital ecosystem of bandwidth and processing nodes shared for free or for a fee by their owners * of which the purpose is to carry datagrams from end to end, what requires a minimum protocol set. . They are groups under exclusive (physical) or shared (virtual) NIC's supervision forming this way local or glocal network systems. Their concatenation is named a catenet ("a network of networks"). The ends are plugged to digital equipments through fringe edges. That's RFC 1859 and that's it. The most popular catenet end to end protocol sets are the "internet" IPv4 and IPv6 protocol sets. They come with their addressing plan and their IANA referential repository, That's it. By essence the catenet is unreliable. You can add protocols to make it reliable (ex. TCP). By essence the catenet is unsecure. You can add a security, format, cryptographic, language presentation loriented ayers. IETF does not do that. By essence the catenet is dumb stupid. You can add an intellition layer. RFC 1958 states that additional fringe to fringe layers are to be plugged "at the fringe". This means that it can be on the Network Side by DSPs (digital services providers) or through PLUS (plugged layers on the user side). So what you are discussing is the catenet internet PLUS. jfc >1) Internet, "the Interconnection of local Networks", "the Net of >Nets", has a clear definition basis: The geometrical structure of >the net. This structure never we found in the telecommunication >worldwide. Therefore, even today, there is no Internet. But because >we need it, we have to create it. > >The network is a recursive geometric structure where each node >connects to its neighbors. On this way can arise the net structure >also in the telecommunication. The nodes are the local autonomous >networks. The connections of this nodes is the Internet. A transport >system for digital data in packet form. > >The local networks are autonomous, because they contain all the >necessary elements locally. The clients, the servers and the >connections. All the necessary server structures are organized >locally. For the exchange of digital data we create the Internet. > >3 different types of digital data exist: Text, graphic, digitized >voice. They are transported as IP packets. A combination of the >digital data with the digital control information for >the transport. In our digital transport system, the data are not >relevant. Only the information for transport. > >This model is based on the network of roads. All local communities >have their direct connection to the neighboring local communities. >And for navigation in this network of roads, there is a clear >orientation: The geographical position. Therefore, we derive the >addresses in our network of connections of local networks from the >geographical location of the local network. > >2) We can summarize the principles for the construction of our >InterNets in a list. > >2.1) The constituent elements are the local and autonomous networks. >2.2) All local networks are connect with their neighbors. >2.3) The transport capacity of these compounds are generally >symmetrical in both directions. >2.4) The global address for the global transport is derived from the >geographical position of the local network. >2.5) In each segment of this network, the line between 2 routers, an >error check is made. >2.6) We distinguish 2 types of transport: asynchronous and >synchronous. The synchronous packets are preferred. Within the >synchronous packets, there are the emergency call with the highest priority. >2.7) We decentralize the DNS system (Domain Name System) based on >the ccTLD (country coded Top Level Domain). >2.8) This system for telecommunications is available to all people >free and free of charge. It arises from the activities of the people >in the local networks. > >3) The realization conditions > >The telecommunications system is a technical system for the >transport of digital data in packet form. The technology, the >materialization of the laws of the nature, stay in the foreground. >The principles of the design of the structure of this system is >based on our philosophical foundations. > >The technologies for our telecommunication system are the subject of >our global cooperation network of free technology. Free to >participate in the development, free to use the results for all >people. With that, we realize 2 basic principles: "Think globally, >act locally" and "Knowledge is always world heritage". > >All people on our planet need this telecommunication system. >Therefore it is reasonable, that we organize the search of the >solutions in the theoretical and constructive questions for the >creation of the components for this system in a free and global cooperation. > >many greetings, willi uebelherr >Coro, Venezuela, 17.12.15 >willi.uebelherr at gmail.com > > > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Content-Disposition: inline > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gpaque at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 08:23:15 2015 From: gpaque at gmail.com (Ginger Paque) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 07:23:15 -0600 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: References: <5671B46D.9030902@apcwomen.org> Message-ID: Dear everyone, Thanks so much for your expressions of support. This is very important for the CSCG work. Even more important are the advice and comments on our upcoming work -- we cannot carry out your wishes, if we don't know what they are! Please fell free to email me privately as well with any comments or suggestions on ways we can do our work best. Please remember, that with the renewal of the mandate of the IGF, we will probably be faced with an accelerated task for MAG renewal. It's not too early to start thinking about new MAG members, directions, and IGF2016. Please do manifest your wishes to me personally, or here on the list, for the IGF2016. Best wishes to all. Ginger Ginger (Virginia) Paque DiploFoundation *DiploFoundation upcoming online courses:* http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses * * On 17 December 2015 at 16:04, Sonigitu Ekpe wrote: > Hello Ginger, > > I saw it coming and was so fulfilled siting side by side during the APC > dinner in Joao Pessoa. > > The hat always fit the outstanding head........... > > Congratulations. > > > Sonigitu Ekpe > > Mobile +234 805 0232 469 Office + 234 802 751 0179 > "LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving" > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Judy Okite wrote: > >> CONGRATULATIONS,Ginger !! >> >> Well deserved. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *'Chance Favors the prepared mind'* - Louis Pasteur >> >> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Jac sm Kee wrote: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Excellent news. And full trust you'd be able to helm this task really >>> well Ginger. Offering full support as well. >>> >>> j >>> >>> >>> - --------------------------------- >>> Jac sm Kee >>> Manager, Women's Rights Programme >>> Association for Progressive Communications >>> www.apc.org | www.takebackthetech.net | erotics.apc.org >>> Jitsi: jacsmk | Skype: jacsmk | Twitter: @jhybe >>> >>> On 13/12/2015 19:56, Deirdre Williams wrote: >>> > Dear All, >>> > >>> > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the >>> > CSCG Chair. >>> > >>> > Best wishes >>> > >>> > Deirdre >>> > >>> > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is >>> > pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of >>> > names put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed >>> > to appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian >>> > Peter will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for >>> > 12 months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing >>> > over the coming year. >>> > >>> > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the >>> > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when >>> > Diplo asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement >>> > with and support of civil society, it could not be described as a >>> > coalition of civil society members. We look forward to Virginia’s >>> > renewed involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. >>> > >>> > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their >>> > interest, and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for >>> > civil society appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the >>> > guidance of our two Co-Chairs. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" >>> > Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>> > >>> > >>> > ____________________________________________________________ You >>> > received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> > governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: >>> > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> > >>> > For all other list information and functions, see: >>> > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and >>> > to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> > >>> > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> > >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) >>> >>> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWcbRsAAoJEJuohLvI/Y6fIBEP/1IvhmUJnfwr+e0AvTBzMQSn >>> JtDffFk7R/Pz5M/w3jc9VQEpXz73Vt4B+/F2tkDyFeud6YtbcjuZ6IIdxAk+TB4j >>> 2pZfjGoiYPPS5rlEijlsKy45yGB14sQTR7mLj/4dux19gTWPTc/aMJ6iYpKbiKr4 >>> 0dlUv4ccfzfA7eqHLl8YGs+3SP89/Mg2i6nGteClKxyDcfnTu8YXyBpJPeEN5tU1 >>> wOfkLdgCfYNSgZXgLjrn/+r+EfWiYjQH53NeCmPLdHrUEc6wrK8lZvXHliiP3TQE >>> Q6KuidIdcFqITuqiepzYRI7FUthoJ9r31NQuhgxZdr1hJeBwDgVyk8wUlyCbAced >>> IGpoGncniG7qnUEfvQzOMu3IKLuSp09N1kEsCg+oM9735vwgUvBCCCMi61qJ2a/C >>> uO+QQk6XhEZO8vrQzMHk0q8LT4AMt6mHMDH61VnLg35ruEfdzwkVrP+FABIzd0be >>> XOr3wRudUCST78PaNjYMjHjEdyPnBNBPtgDM1MOBm67hfmlYNpJWo+d9pUCEUwNX >>> z0RWYYMlA4qJYFlq3JLcIKOBWJsBOxacHYfXMr/mmGwGX0gaJCWHLe4MJlmLrmqI >>> rbT/Gsn8+oS2hqcHWgII0WPTjqwm/l8BcthI4L5NZt5rlMEBZ2/Rr49n0SJdsLqd >>> IMWFoU/mPxRztCt8Gac6 >>> =ey3p >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ginger at paque.net Mon Dec 21 08:38:37 2015 From: ginger at paque.net (Ginger Paque) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 07:38:37 -0600 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: <09BE580D-696A-4122-9486-23C409F16978@theglobaljournal.net> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A2A4DF@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <09BE580D-696A-4122-9486-23C409F16978@theglobaljournal.net> Message-ID: Again, thanks for all advice and comments. One quick response: I suspect that Wolfgang meant that we should keep the HR perspective in mind across silos, and across topics, not that we should only talk about HR (when advising to keep everything related to HR) or at least, that's the way I read it. One of the few topics that has had broad support across the history of our diverse CS discussions, has been the need for a main session on HR, which we had for the first time in 2015 (thanks Jac, and others, for all of your work here). That was a low-key success when it finally happened, but I think the 2016 main session on HR can be a way to pull things together for HR topics. That leaves lots of room for other issues as well. I look forward to input and discussion to make our work together more effective. With best intentions, (which hopefully won't go awry) Ginger On 13 December 2015 at 11:20, Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal < jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net> wrote: > Congratulations Ginger! Thanks to Ian as well. > > As Wolfgang rightly suggests: "This is not an easy task" and, he seems to > be willing to help by asking you to be aware of: > - some CS that are not '*well intentioned*' in the field. According to WK > there seems to be malicious CS around here. Could WK be more specific and > point to the villains he is referring to? He can do that privately to you, > if he feels he can't speak in the open. > - CS should remained '*federated*' to come with a 'coordinated' voice. > Everyone understands what is a 'federated CS' or a 'coordinated voice' in > here? I do not. Could WK explain what he means here? Are these new official > multistakeholderism aphorism? > - Only if federated or coordinated CS should only consider talking to '*global > multistakeholder IG negotiation table*'. Ahah, a negotiation table? Where > is this happing Wolfgang? > > So probably by sending such strong warnings, WK does really mean his: > "This is not an easy task". > > One interesting piece of news is his highly recommended strategy for the > upcoming Independent Chair. Very helpful indeed. "*Please keep everything > related to Human Rights*". As everyone knows, nobody can ever argue > against Human Rights; moreover everyone knows that Human Rights is the most > difficult topic among the many that are related to transnational > governance. Very little progress to be recorded here. Of course, if one > want to make sure that things move very very slowly, then that might be a > good strategy. If status quo is part of HR, let's love status quo. > > So let's keep talking Human Rights (I wonder as I am writing this if I am > not already putting myself in the line of fire as someone going against > Human Rights - unless my freedom of Expression right is enough to protect > me from such avenge), and all will be well in the MS world of IG. > > So let's be happy with One Thought, One Idea, One Internet, One vision of > it. Pluralism is old fashion, concentration is better. Opinions are > dangerous, communion is mandatory. Debating is a waste of time, let's > listen to our masters. > > Love you Wolfgang. > > JC > > Le 13 déc. 2015 à 17:03, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang a écrit : > > My best wishes go to Virginia Paque. This is not an easy task. The > challenges are high. And Virginia deserves the support of all well > intentioned CS groups in this field. With Ian as co-chair I am sure that > Virginia will be able to help us to leave some useless internal battles > behind us and move forward. > > There is a need that CS remains "federated" and comes with a coordinated > voice to the global multistakeholder Internet Governance negotiation table. > 2016 will be the first year after the WSIS 10+ Review. It will see - > hopefully - the expiration of the IANA contract. We will have the OECD > Ministerial Conference in Cancun. We will have new rounds of global talks > on cybersceurity and digital trade. We will see new emering problems > related to the the Internet of Things and other technological or business > innovations. There is an ongoing need to relate all those issues to human > rights. And everyhwere a strong civil society is needed. Without the voice > of civil society the multistakeholder approach will remain an empty > concept. > > Best wishes > > Wolfgang > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Deirdre Williams > Gesendet: So 13.12.2015 12:56 > An: Internet Governance > Betreff: [governance] CSCG CHAIR > > Dear All, > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG > Chair. > > Best wishes > > Deirdre > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased > to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward > for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. > As well, and at Virginia's request, Ian Peter will continue on in a > parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a > smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked > to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of > civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society > members. We look forward to Virginia's renewed involvement and ongoing > involvement in our activities. > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and > look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society > appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two > Co-Chairs. > > > -- > "The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gpaque at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 08:43:49 2015 From: gpaque at gmail.com (Ginger Paque) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 07:43:49 -0600 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A2A4DF@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A2A4DF@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: Thanks very much, Wolfgang, much appreciated. I do hope you and others will continue to feed in to our work... As a reminder, both CSCG and MAG members appreciate comments and suggestions, especially before and during our work, so we can discuss, adapt, include, and propose. I welcome your comments on this list and in private. Best wishes, Ginger Ginger (Virginia) Paque DiploFoundation *DiploFoundation upcoming online courses:* http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses * * On 13 December 2015 at 10:03, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" < wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote: > My best wishes go to Virginia Paque. This is not an easy task. The > challenges are high. And Virginia deserves the support of all well > intentioned CS groups in this field. With Ian as co-chair I am sure that > Virginia will be able to help us to leave some useless internal battles > behind us and move forward. > > There is a need that CS remains "federated" and comes with a coordinated > voice to the global multistakeholder Internet Governance negotiation table. > 2016 will be the first year after the WSIS 10+ Review. It will see - > hopefully - the expiration of the IANA contract. We will have the OECD > Ministerial Conference in Cancun. We will have new rounds of global talks > on cybersceurity and digital trade. We will see new emering problems > related to the the Internet of Things and other technological or business > innovations. There is an ongoing need to relate all those issues to human > rights. And everyhwere a strong civil society is needed. Without the voice > of civil society the multistakeholder approach will remain an empty concept. > > Best wishes > > Wolfgang > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Deirdre Williams > Gesendet: So 13.12.2015 12:56 > An: Internet Governance > Betreff: [governance] CSCG CHAIR > > Dear All, > > Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG > Chair. > > Best wishes > > Deirdre > > CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS > > > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased > to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward > for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. > As well, and at Virginia's request, Ian Peter will continue on in a > parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a > smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. > > Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the > representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked > to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of > civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society > members. We look forward to Virginia's renewed involvement and ongoing > involvement in our activities. > > We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and > look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society > appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two > Co-Chairs. > > > -- > "The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Saludos, Ginger Ginger (Virginia) Paque DiploFoundation *DiploFoundation upcoming online courses:* http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses * * On 13 December 2015 at 09:17, Antonio Medina Gómez wrote: > Congratulations Ginger. > Una gran noticia. > Poderoso abrazo > El 13/12/2015 10:15, "Jacqueline Morris" > escribió: > >> Congratulations, Ginger! >> On 13 Dec 2015 09:45, "Arsene TUNGALI (Yahoo)" >> wrote: >> >>> Congratulations are in order, Ginger. I know you will do well, you truly >>> represent. We are here to support you in any capacity you may need! >>> >>> Regards, >>> A >>> >>> >>> --------------------- >>> Arsene Tungali, >>> +243 993810967 <+243%20993810967> >>> @arsenebaguma >>> Democratic Republic of Congo >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >>> >>> On Sunday, December 13, 2015, 3:03 PM, Ginger Paque >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, De ... Thanks Remmy! >>> Be sure to let us know what we can do for CS..... >>> Best, >>> Ginger >>> >>> Ginger (Virginia) Paque >>> DiploFoundation >>> >>> *DiploFoundation upcoming online courses:* >>> http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses >>> * * >>> >>> >>> On 13 December 2015 at 06:08, Remmy Nweke wrote: >>> >>>> Hi DD >>>> This is to acknowledge your mail and also support Virginia normation. >>>> Congrats to Virginia. >>>> Best of the day. >>>> Remmy Nweke >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> From: Deirdre Williams >>>> Sent: ‎13/‎12/‎2015 12:57 >>>> To: Internet Governance >>>> Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR >>>> >>>> Dear All, >>>> >>>> Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG >>>> Chair. >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> >>>> Deirdre >>>> >>>> CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is >>>> pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put >>>> forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint >>>> Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue >>>> on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both >>>> a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. >>>> >>>> Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the >>>> representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked >>>> to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of >>>> civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society >>>> members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing >>>> involvement in our activities. >>>> >>>> We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and >>>> look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society >>>> appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two >>>> Co-Chairs. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir >>>> William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: >>>> http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: >>> http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From cveraq at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 09:10:16 2015 From: cveraq at gmail.com (Carlos Vera Quintana) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 09:10:16 -0500 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: References: <1439462292.669386.1450014138998.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Excelente Virginia. Buenos augurios! Saludos Carlos Vera Quintana 0988141143 Sígueme @cveraq > El 21 dic 2015, a las 8:44 a.m., Ginger Paque escribió: > > Gracias, Antonio. No olvidemos la importancia de la voz de America Latina!!! > Saludos, Ginger > > Ginger (Virginia) Paque > DiploFoundation > DiploFoundation upcoming online courses: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses > > > >> On 13 December 2015 at 09:17, Antonio Medina Gómez wrote: >> Congratulations Ginger. >> Una gran noticia. >> Poderoso abrazo >> >> El 13/12/2015 10:15, "Jacqueline Morris" escribió: >>> Congratulations, Ginger! >>> >>> On 13 Dec 2015 09:45, "Arsene TUNGALI (Yahoo)" wrote: >>>> Congratulations are in order, Ginger. I know you will do well, you truly represent. We are here to support you in any capacity you may need! >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> A >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------- >>>> Arsene Tungali, >>>> +243 993810967 >>>> @arsenebaguma >>>> Democratic Republic of Congo >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >>>> >>>> On Sunday, December 13, 2015, 3:03 PM, Ginger Paque wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks, De ... Thanks Remmy! >>>> Be sure to let us know what we can do for CS..... >>>> Best, >>>> Ginger >>>> >>>> Ginger (Virginia) Paque >>>> DiploFoundation >>>> DiploFoundation upcoming online courses: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 13 December 2015 at 06:08, Remmy Nweke wrote: >>>>> Hi DD >>>>> This is to acknowledge your mail and also support Virginia normation. Congrats to Virginia. >>>>> Best of the day. >>>>> Remmy Nweke >>>>> From: Deirdre Williams >>>>> Sent: ‎13/‎12/‎2015 12:57 >>>>> To: Internet Governance >>>>> Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR >>>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> >>>>> Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG Chair. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> Deirdre >>>>> >>>>> CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. >>>>> >>>>> Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. >>>>> >>>>> We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two Co-Chairs. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From Kivuva at transworldafrica.com Mon Dec 21 09:58:01 2015 From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com (Mwendwa Kivuva) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:58:01 +0300 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A2A4DF@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <09BE580D-696A-4122-9486-23C409F16978@theglobaljournal.net> Message-ID: Ginger, I'm not sure I get the context of the acronym "HR". Is this Human Resource? Regards On Dec 21, 2015 4:38 PM, "Ginger Paque" wrote: > Again, thanks for all advice and comments. > One quick response: I suspect that Wolfgang meant that we should keep the > HR perspective in mind across silos, and across topics, not that we should > only talk about HR (when advising to keep everything related to HR) or at > least, that's the way I read it. > > One of the few topics that has had broad support across the history of our > diverse CS discussions, has been the need for a main session on HR, which > we had for the first time in 2015 (thanks Jac, and others, for all of your > work here). That was a low-key success when it finally happened, but I > think the 2016 main session on HR can be a way to pull things together for > HR topics. That leaves lots of room for other issues as well. > > I look forward to input and discussion to make our work together more > effective. > > With best intentions, (which hopefully won't go awry) > Ginger > > On 13 December 2015 at 11:20, Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal > wrote: > >> Congratulations Ginger! Thanks to Ian as well. >> >> As Wolfgang rightly suggests: "This is not an easy task" and, he seems to >> be willing to help by asking you to be aware of: >> - some CS that are not '*well intentioned*' in the field. According to >> WK there seems to be malicious CS around here. Could WK be more specific >> and point to the villains he is referring to? He can do that privately to >> you, if he feels he can't speak in the open. >> - CS should remained '*federated*' to come with a 'coordinated' voice. >> Everyone understands what is a 'federated CS' or a 'coordinated voice' in >> here? I do not. Could WK explain what he means here? Are these new official >> multistakeholderism aphorism? >> - Only if federated or coordinated CS should only consider talking to '*global >> multistakeholder IG negotiation table*'. Ahah, a negotiation table? >> Where is this happing Wolfgang? >> >> So probably by sending such strong warnings, WK does really mean his: >> "This is not an easy task". >> >> One interesting piece of news is his highly recommended strategy for the >> upcoming Independent Chair. Very helpful indeed. "*Please keep >> everything related to Human Rights*". As everyone knows, nobody can ever >> argue against Human Rights; moreover everyone knows that Human Rights is >> the most difficult topic among the many that are related to transnational >> governance. Very little progress to be recorded here. Of course, if one >> want to make sure that things move very very slowly, then that might be a >> good strategy. If status quo is part of HR, let's love status quo. >> >> So let's keep talking Human Rights (I wonder as I am writing this if I am >> not already putting myself in the line of fire as someone going against >> Human Rights - unless my freedom of Expression right is enough to protect >> me from such avenge), and all will be well in the MS world of IG. >> >> So let's be happy with One Thought, One Idea, One Internet, One vision of >> it. Pluralism is old fashion, concentration is better. Opinions are >> dangerous, communion is mandatory. Debating is a waste of time, let's >> listen to our masters. >> >> Love you Wolfgang. >> >> JC >> >> Le 13 déc. 2015 à 17:03, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang a écrit : >> >> My best wishes go to Virginia Paque. This is not an easy task. The >> challenges are high. And Virginia deserves the support of all well >> intentioned CS groups in this field. With Ian as co-chair I am sure that >> Virginia will be able to help us to leave some useless internal battles >> behind us and move forward. >> >> There is a need that CS remains "federated" and comes with a coordinated >> voice to the global multistakeholder Internet Governance negotiation table. >> 2016 will be the first year after the WSIS 10+ Review. It will see - >> hopefully - the expiration of the IANA contract. We will have the OECD >> Ministerial Conference in Cancun. We will have new rounds of global talks >> on cybersceurity and digital trade. We will see new emering problems >> related to the the Internet of Things and other technological or business >> innovations. There is an ongoing need to relate all those issues to human >> rights. And everyhwere a strong civil society is needed. Without the voice >> of civil society the multistakeholder approach will remain an empty >> concept. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Wolfgang >> >> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Deirdre >> Williams >> Gesendet: So 13.12.2015 12:56 >> An: Internet Governance >> Betreff: [governance] CSCG CHAIR >> >> Dear All, >> >> Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG >> Chair. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Deirdre >> >> CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS >> >> >> >> The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased >> to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward >> for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia >> Paque. >> As well, and at Virginia's request, Ian Peter will continue on in a >> parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a >> smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. >> >> Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the >> representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo >> asked >> to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of >> civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society >> members. We look forward to Virginia's renewed involvement and ongoing >> involvement in our activities. >> >> We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and >> look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society >> appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two >> Co-Chairs. >> >> >> -- >> "The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William >> Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From Kivuva at transworldafrica.com Mon Dec 21 10:02:02 2015 From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com (Mwendwa Kivuva) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 18:02:02 +0300 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A2A4DF@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <09BE580D-696A-4122-9486-23C409F16978@theglobaljournal.net> Message-ID: I've got it, HR for "Human Rights". The challenge of shortening words is some of us get lost on the way. On Dec 21, 2015 5:58 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" wrote: > Ginger, I'm not sure I get the context of the acronym "HR". Is this Human > Resource? > > Regards > On Dec 21, 2015 4:38 PM, "Ginger Paque" wrote: > >> Again, thanks for all advice and comments. >> One quick response: I suspect that Wolfgang meant that we should keep the >> HR perspective in mind across silos, and across topics, not that we should >> only talk about HR (when advising to keep everything related to HR) or at >> least, that's the way I read it. >> >> One of the few topics that has had broad support across the history of >> our diverse CS discussions, has been the need for a main session on HR, >> which we had for the first time in 2015 (thanks Jac, and others, for all of >> your work here). That was a low-key success when it finally happened, but I >> think the 2016 main session on HR can be a way to pull things together for >> HR topics. That leaves lots of room for other issues as well. >> >> I look forward to input and discussion to make our work together more >> effective. >> >> With best intentions, (which hopefully won't go awry) >> Ginger >> >> On 13 December 2015 at 11:20, Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global >> Journal wrote: >> >>> Congratulations Ginger! Thanks to Ian as well. >>> >>> As Wolfgang rightly suggests: "This is not an easy task" and, he seems >>> to be willing to help by asking you to be aware of: >>> - some CS that are not '*well intentioned*' in the field. According to >>> WK there seems to be malicious CS around here. Could WK be more specific >>> and point to the villains he is referring to? He can do that privately to >>> you, if he feels he can't speak in the open. >>> - CS should remained '*federated*' to come with a 'coordinated' voice. >>> Everyone understands what is a 'federated CS' or a 'coordinated voice' in >>> here? I do not. Could WK explain what he means here? Are these new official >>> multistakeholderism aphorism? >>> - Only if federated or coordinated CS should only consider talking to '*global >>> multistakeholder IG negotiation table*'. Ahah, a negotiation table? >>> Where is this happing Wolfgang? >>> >>> So probably by sending such strong warnings, WK does really mean his: >>> "This is not an easy task". >>> >>> One interesting piece of news is his highly recommended strategy for the >>> upcoming Independent Chair. Very helpful indeed. "*Please keep >>> everything related to Human Rights*". As everyone knows, nobody can >>> ever argue against Human Rights; moreover everyone knows that Human Rights >>> is the most difficult topic among the many that are related to >>> transnational governance. Very little progress to be recorded here. Of >>> course, if one want to make sure that things move very very slowly, then >>> that might be a good strategy. If status quo is part of HR, let's love >>> status quo. >>> >>> So let's keep talking Human Rights (I wonder as I am writing this if I >>> am not already putting myself in the line of fire as someone going against >>> Human Rights - unless my freedom of Expression right is enough to protect >>> me from such avenge), and all will be well in the MS world of IG. >>> >>> So let's be happy with One Thought, One Idea, One Internet, One vision >>> of it. Pluralism is old fashion, concentration is better. Opinions are >>> dangerous, communion is mandatory. Debating is a waste of time, let's >>> listen to our masters. >>> >>> Love you Wolfgang. >>> >>> JC >>> >>> Le 13 déc. 2015 à 17:03, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang a écrit : >>> >>> My best wishes go to Virginia Paque. This is not an easy task. The >>> challenges are high. And Virginia deserves the support of all well >>> intentioned CS groups in this field. With Ian as co-chair I am sure that >>> Virginia will be able to help us to leave some useless internal battles >>> behind us and move forward. >>> >>> There is a need that CS remains "federated" and comes with a coordinated >>> voice to the global multistakeholder Internet Governance negotiation table. >>> 2016 will be the first year after the WSIS 10+ Review. It will see - >>> hopefully - the expiration of the IANA contract. We will have the OECD >>> Ministerial Conference in Cancun. We will have new rounds of global talks >>> on cybersceurity and digital trade. We will see new emering problems >>> related to the the Internet of Things and other technological or business >>> innovations. There is an ongoing need to relate all those issues to human >>> rights. And everyhwere a strong civil society is needed. Without the voice >>> of civil society the multistakeholder approach will remain an empty >>> concept. >>> >>> Best wishes >>> >>> Wolfgang >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Deirdre >>> Williams >>> Gesendet: So 13.12.2015 12:56 >>> An: Internet Governance >>> Betreff: [governance] CSCG CHAIR >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG >>> Chair. >>> >>> Best wishes >>> >>> Deirdre >>> >>> CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS >>> >>> >>> >>> The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is >>> pleased >>> to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward >>> for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia >>> Paque. >>> As well, and at Virginia's request, Ian Peter will continue on in a >>> parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a >>> smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. >>> >>> Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the >>> representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo >>> asked >>> to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of >>> civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society >>> members. We look forward to Virginia's renewed involvement and ongoing >>> involvement in our activities. >>> >>> We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and >>> look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society >>> appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two >>> Co-Chairs. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William >>> Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 15:28:17 2015 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:17 -0800 Subject: [governance] [Internet Policy] The Wuzhen Initiative & Fadi In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A2A521@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <8572D0FA-DF58-403A-9ABA-B293DA48843A@wileyrein.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A2A521@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <2a9401d13c2e$20d22460$62766d20$@gmail.com> Thanks for this most interesting and useful document Wolfgang. However, I read it and even reread it looking for any reference to "democracy" as a principle for Internet Governance (if only aspirational), perhaps in tandem with "human rights" which the events (and you) seem to have covered quite effectively. Was the notion of democratic governance never discussed in any of these three events and if not, surely you as a scholar in the area of Global Governance might be expected to note this as an absence worthy of comment. Tks, Mike -----Original Message----- From: InternetPolicy [mailto:internetpolicy-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" Sent: December 21, 2015 11:07 AM To: Frank, Carl ; Nick Ashton-Hart Cc: internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] The Wuzhen Initiative & Fadi Hi FYI, here is hiw I see Wuzhen: http://www.circleid.com/members/5851/ Wolfgang -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: InternetPolicy im Auftrag von Frank, Carl Gesendet: Mo 21.12.2015 09:09 An: Nick Ashton-Hart Cc: internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org Betreff: Re: [Internet Policy] The Wuzhen Initiative & Fadi Nick: +1 Carl R. Frank 1776 K St NW Washington DC 20006 USA O + 1 202 719-7269 F + 1 202 719-7049 > On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:04 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > > Dear Paul, > > Thanks for your time in replying. > > Let me start by saying that I understand the various caveats that you outline below related to the language in the document associated with the conference. > > Secondly, it is your view that it is false to suggest that agreeing to be involved in the outcome process of Wuzhen has no connection to the language the hosts have proposed for the initiative. Of course it is your prerogative to do that, but I simply don't believe that's true: that language is clearly stated as being proposed as the underpinnings of the initiative itself. Those of you who participate in it MAY be able to change it over the course of time, but we have to accept that the starting place is what is stated in the text, very clearly. > > If you are agreeing to be a part of a process which has a proposed foundation, which is the case for Fadi here (and the others presumably) then the reality is that you can expect the outside world to see you as identified with that process, and the process identified with the starting language. > > Let me be clear. The language in that document - and in specific the lack of the term 'multistakeholder' - is exactly what countries like China, Russia, and others (you can fill in the blanks) were pushing very hard for in the WSIS negotiations. It was an extreme effort into the early hours to keep that language out and end up with the balanced paragraphs we have now.. The language on state sovereignty in the Wuzhen document is also in the same category: a very heavy lift by a lot of people to prevent that really harmful construction from remaining in the WSIS outcome. > > Fadi - and anyone else who chose to be a part of the outcome process of Wuzhen - could have chosen to say that they would be a part of a process which would come up with a document with the elements in the declaration. However, instead, they climbed aboard the Wuzhen process despite it starting from a terrible, terrible place. > > I'm sorry, I respect the hell out of you Paul, but on this whole business we must agree to disagree. I believe it is entirely reasonable for the initiative to be associated with a document whose language is clearly intended by the hosts for that association to be made. I also believe that it was entirely inappropriate for Fadi to fly directly from New York to Wuzhen and so visibly be connected with an initiative that is itself so connected to such toxic language. He is extremely well-aware of how toxic the language in that text is and of what it took to keep it out of WSIS as Veni was on delegation to the negotiations, as was I. Saying that he'll be involved only in his personal capacity when he was clearly invited to speak at Wuzhen solely because he's ICANN CEO only makes the situation worse. > > Finally, I find it hard to believe that the timing of the Wuzhen summit was accidental in entirely overlapping with WSIS+10 in New York, given that Wuzhen was organised after the WSIS+10 dates were announced. I find it simply impossible to believe that the fact that the language presented in the Wuzhen outcome accidentally contained the very same toxic linguistic constructions that we have all fought so hard to get away from for a decade or longer. > > I think everyone here understands what China's view of open networks, and all that goes along with it, really is: it isn't as if they're not pretty open about it. If you believe that you can help to change their view by participating in Wuzhen, that's great! Engagement is important. However, lets all do it with our eyes open as to what that government's current motivations really are - and it isn't a multistakeholder, human-rights and people-centred Internet. Its an Orwellian one. > > >> On 21 Dec 2015, at 03:18, Paul Wilson wrote: >> >> With respect Nick, this is a serious misunderstanding and misrepresentation of what happened. >> >> The "Wuzhen initiative" is a statement by the WIC Secretariat, and not an outcome of the conference in any way. It was not presented to the conference, or even announced during the conference; it was released afterwards. And I don't think anyone is claiming otherwise, except mistakenly or with malice. >> >> The "High-level Advisory Committee" (HAC) did not produce the document. We were called to a meeting where the document was presented to us, and we gave our advice. The result of that discussion was positive: ensuring that the document was not presented as a result of the conference, or as any kind of "declaration" (which was on the cards initially), but rather as an initiative of the Secretariat. >> >> There was limited discussion with the HAC on the content of the document.. Of a few contributions in the time available, I made a strong but unsuccessful case that the "multistakeholder" should replace "multilateral" in the 5th clause; the counterargument was that the words used came from WSIS and are therefore acceptable, while at the same time the document does recognise the full range of stakeholders. (To be clear: the WSIS+10 documentation was not available at the time of this discussion; but we do now have a good precedent to bring in the WSIS+10 result at the next opportunity.) >> >> Finally, it's completely false, and quite outrageous frankly, to claim that Fadi endorsed any language in the WIC meeting; when as I said the document was not even released until after the meeting. As for claims of abuse and personal benefits, those are unjustified and completely unfair. >> >> This is not a good time to be subscribing to rumours and spinning up false stories, so I hope we can return to a rational discussion of Wuzhen and put it in a proper perspective. >> >> Paul. >> >> >> >>> On 20 Dec 2015, at 18:28, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: >>> >>> Dear Joly, and others, >>> >>> From my perspective, Fadi went from the WSIS+10 Summit - where negotiators spent three nights until 0300 fighting to ensure multistakeholderism wasn't downgraded - to Wuzhen and endorsed the exact language we all fought so hard to get rid of in front of hundreds of millions of Chinese. >>> >>> What he did is frankly shameful and undermines what so many of us in the WSIS process have fought so hard for. The idea that he's doing this in his personal capacity is risible; he'd never have been offered a speaking slot in that capacity, only as ICANN's CEO. >>> >>> What he did is an abuse of his position and as far as I can tell entirely to benefit himself. It certainly doesn't benefit the Internet he claims to care so much about. >>> >>>> On 20 Dec 2015, at 00:12, Joly MacFie wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Was there mention of anything approaching multistakeholderism? What issues were to the fore? >>>> >>>> j >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 6:04 PM, TH Schee > wrote: >>>> The initiative has been particularly powerful in China with regard to introducing of the whole idea around internet governance, given the Summit has been broadcasted all over CCTVs last week. The Wuzhen Initiative has effectively serve as the cornerstone of understanding for, say, if not a billion, hundreds of millions of people. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 6:56 AM, Joly MacFie > wrote: >>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/18/ex_icann_ceo_will_work_with_china/ >>>> The official outline for the Wuzhen Initiative - designed by the High-Level Advisory Committee (HAC) that Chehade now co-chairs - appears harmless enough but contains what internet governance experts will immediately recognize as troubling efforts to legitimize online censorship. >>>> >>>> The second point of five guiding principles is "Fostering cultural diversity in the cyberspace." The fourth is "Ensuring peace and security in cyberspace," and the last is "Improving the global Internet governance." >>>> >>>> The document notes the "importance of respect for nations' sovereignty in cyberspace" and specifically fails to use the term "multi-stakeholder" in the context of internet governance, instead opting for the loaded term "multilateral," which is code for putting governments in overall control. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, >>>> please log into the ISOC Member Portal: >>>> https://portal.isoc.org/ >>>> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> TH Schee | M: +1-646-820-0002 | @scheeinfo >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, >>>> please log into the ISOC Member Portal: >>>> https://portal.isoc.org/ >>>> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, >>> please log into the ISOC Member Portal: >>> https://portal.isoc.org/ >>> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg at apnic.net >> http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg > > _______________________________________________ > To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, > please log into the ISOC Member Portal: > https://portal.isoc.org/ > Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. _______________________________________________ To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, please log into the ISOC Member Portal: https://portal.isoc.org/ Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nashton at consensus.pro Mon Dec 21 15:31:00 2015 From: nashton at consensus.pro (Nick Ashton-Hart) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 21:31:00 +0100 Subject: [governance] [Internet Policy] The Wuzhen Initiative & Fadi In-Reply-To: <2a9401d13c2e$20d22460$62766d20$@gmail.com> References: <8572D0FA-DF58-403A-9ABA-B293DA48843A@wileyrein.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A2A521@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2a9401d13c2e$20d22460$62766d20$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <78C43418-4373-4E7F-9C72-645155142C7E@consensus.pro> Dear Michael, The WSIS+10 documents very definitely includes that concept, as did dozens of the speeches made by countries at the conference itself endorsing the outcome document. > On 21 Dec 2015, at 21:28, Michael Gurstein wrote: > > Thanks for this most interesting and useful document Wolfgang. > > However, I read it and even reread it looking for any reference to > "democracy" as a principle for Internet Governance (if only aspirational), > perhaps in tandem with "human rights" which the events (and you) seem to > have covered quite effectively. > > Was the notion of democratic governance never discussed in any of these > three events and if not, surely you as a scholar in the area of Global > Governance might be expected to note this as an absence worthy of comment. > > Tks, > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: InternetPolicy [mailto:internetpolicy-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On > Behalf Of "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" > Sent: December 21, 2015 11:07 AM > To: Frank, Carl ; Nick Ashton-Hart > > Cc: internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org > Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] The Wuzhen Initiative & Fadi > > Hi > > FYI, here is hiw I see Wuzhen: > http://www.circleid.com/members/5851/ > > Wolfgang > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: InternetPolicy im Auftrag von Frank, Carl > Gesendet: Mo 21.12.2015 09:09 > An: Nick Ashton-Hart > Cc: internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org > Betreff: Re: [Internet Policy] The Wuzhen Initiative & Fadi > > Nick: +1 > > Carl R. Frank > 1776 K St NW > Washington DC 20006 > USA > O + 1 202 719-7269 > F + 1 202 719-7049 > > >> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:04 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart > wrote: >> >> Dear Paul, >> >> Thanks for your time in replying. >> >> Let me start by saying that I understand the various caveats that you > outline below related to the language in the document associated with the > conference. >> >> Secondly, it is your view that it is false to suggest that agreeing to be > involved in the outcome process of Wuzhen has no connection to the language > the hosts have proposed for the initiative. Of course it is your prerogative > to do that, but I simply don't believe that's true: that language is clearly > stated as being proposed as the underpinnings of the initiative itself. > Those of you who participate in it MAY be able to change it over the course > of time, but we have to accept that the starting place is what is stated in > the text, very clearly. >> >> If you are agreeing to be a part of a process which has a proposed > foundation, which is the case for Fadi here (and the others presumably) then > the reality is that you can expect the outside world to see you as > identified with that process, and the process identified with the starting > language. >> >> Let me be clear. The language in that document - and in specific the lack > of the term 'multistakeholder' - is exactly what countries like China, > Russia, and others (you can fill in the blanks) were pushing very hard for > in the WSIS negotiations. It was an extreme effort into the early hours to > keep that language out and end up with the balanced paragraphs we have now.. > The language on state sovereignty in the Wuzhen document is also in the same > category: a very heavy lift by a lot of people to prevent that really > harmful construction from remaining in the WSIS outcome. >> >> Fadi - and anyone else who chose to be a part of the outcome process of > Wuzhen - could have chosen to say that they would be a part of a process > which would come up with a document with the elements in the declaration. > However, instead, they climbed aboard the Wuzhen process despite it starting > from a terrible, terrible place. >> >> I'm sorry, I respect the hell out of you Paul, but on this whole business > we must agree to disagree. I believe it is entirely reasonable for the > initiative to be associated with a document whose language is clearly > intended by the hosts for that association to be made. I also believe that > it was entirely inappropriate for Fadi to fly directly from New York to > Wuzhen and so visibly be connected with an initiative that is itself so > connected to such toxic language. He is extremely well-aware of how toxic > the language in that text is and of what it took to keep it out of WSIS as > Veni was on delegation to the negotiations, as was I. Saying that he'll be > involved only in his personal capacity when he was clearly invited to speak > at Wuzhen solely because he's ICANN CEO only makes the situation worse. >> >> Finally, I find it hard to believe that the timing of the Wuzhen summit > was accidental in entirely overlapping with WSIS+10 in New York, given that > Wuzhen was organised after the WSIS+10 dates were announced. I find it > simply impossible to believe that the fact that the language presented in > the Wuzhen outcome accidentally contained the very same toxic linguistic > constructions that we have all fought so hard to get away from for a decade > or longer. >> >> I think everyone here understands what China's view of open networks, and > all that goes along with it, really is: it isn't as if they're not pretty > open about it. If you believe that you can help to change their view by > participating in Wuzhen, that's great! Engagement is important. However, > lets all do it with our eyes open as to what that government's current > motivations really are - and it isn't a multistakeholder, human-rights and > people-centred Internet. Its an Orwellian one. >> >> >>> On 21 Dec 2015, at 03:18, Paul Wilson wrote: >>> >>> With respect Nick, this is a serious misunderstanding and > misrepresentation of what happened. >>> >>> The "Wuzhen initiative" is a statement by the WIC Secretariat, and not an > outcome of the conference in any way. It was not presented to the > conference, or even announced during the conference; it was released > afterwards. And I don't think anyone is claiming otherwise, except > mistakenly or with malice. >>> >>> The "High-level Advisory Committee" (HAC) did not produce the document. > We were called to a meeting where the document was presented to us, and we > gave our advice. The result of that discussion was positive: ensuring that > the document was not presented as a result of the conference, or as any kind > of "declaration" (which was on the cards initially), but rather as an > initiative of the Secretariat. >>> >>> There was limited discussion with the HAC on the content of the > document.. Of a few contributions in the time available, I made a strong > but unsuccessful case that the "multistakeholder" should replace > "multilateral" in the 5th clause; the counterargument was that the words > used came from WSIS and are therefore acceptable, while at the same time the > document does recognise the full range of stakeholders. (To be clear: the > WSIS+10 documentation was not available at the time of this discussion; but > we do now have a good precedent to bring in the WSIS+10 result at the next > opportunity.) >>> >>> Finally, it's completely false, and quite outrageous frankly, to claim > that Fadi endorsed any language in the WIC meeting; when as I said the > document was not even released until after the meeting. As for claims of > abuse and personal benefits, those are unjustified and completely unfair. >>> >>> This is not a good time to be subscribing to rumours and spinning up > false stories, so I hope we can return to a rational discussion of Wuzhen > and put it in a proper perspective. >>> >>> Paul. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 20 Dec 2015, at 18:28, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Joly, and others, >>>> >>>> From my perspective, Fadi went from the WSIS+10 Summit - where > negotiators spent three nights until 0300 fighting to ensure > multistakeholderism wasn't downgraded - to Wuzhen and endorsed the exact > language we all fought so hard to get rid of in front of hundreds of > millions of Chinese. >>>> >>>> What he did is frankly shameful and undermines what so many of us in > the WSIS process have fought so hard for. The idea that he's doing this in > his personal capacity is risible; he'd never have been offered a speaking > slot in that capacity, only as ICANN's CEO. >>>> >>>> What he did is an abuse of his position and as far as I can tell > entirely to benefit himself. It certainly doesn't benefit the Internet he > claims to care so much about. >>>> >>>>> On 20 Dec 2015, at 00:12, Joly MacFie wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Was there mention of anything approaching multistakeholderism? What > issues were to the fore? >>>>> >>>>> j >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 6:04 PM, TH Schee > wrote: >>>>> The initiative has been particularly powerful in China with regard to > introducing of the whole idea around internet governance, given the Summit > has been broadcasted all over CCTVs last week. The Wuzhen Initiative has > effectively serve as the cornerstone of understanding for, say, if not a > billion, hundreds of millions of people. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 6:56 AM, Joly MacFie > wrote: >>>>> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/18/ex_icann_ceo_will_work_with_china/ > >>>>> The official outline for the Wuzhen Initiative - designed by the > High-Level Advisory Committee (HAC) that Chehade now co-chairs - appears > harmless enough but contains what internet governance experts will > immediately recognize as troubling efforts to legitimize online censorship. >>>>> >>>>> The second point of five guiding principles is "Fostering cultural > diversity in the cyberspace." The fourth is "Ensuring peace and security in > cyberspace," and the last is "Improving the global Internet governance." >>>>> >>>>> The document notes > the "importance of respect for nations' sovereignty in cyberspace" and > specifically fails to use the term "multi-stakeholder" in the context of > internet governance, instead opting for the loaded term "multilateral," > which is code for putting governments in overall control. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, >>>>> please log into the ISOC Member Portal: >>>>> https://portal.isoc.org/ >>>>> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> TH Schee | M: +1-646-820-0002 | @scheeinfo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> - >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, >>>>> please log into the ISOC Member Portal: >>>>> https://portal.isoc.org/ >>>>> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, >>>> please log into the ISOC Member Portal: >>>> https://portal.isoc.org/ >>>> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >>> >>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg at apnic.net >>> http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, >> please log into the ISOC Member Portal: >> https://portal.isoc.org/ >> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. > > _______________________________________________ > To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, > please log into the ISOC Member Portal: > https://portal.isoc.org/ > Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes, I was in New York; since I was party also to all those statements, the same question occurs to me as well ... On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > Dear Michael, > > The WSIS+10 documents very definitely includes that concept, as did dozens of the speeches made by countries at the conference itself endorsing the outcome document. > >> On 21 Dec 2015, at 21:28, Michael Gurstein wrote: >> >> Thanks for this most interesting and useful document Wolfgang. >> >> However, I read it and even reread it looking for any reference to >> "democracy" as a principle for Internet Governance (if only aspirational), >> perhaps in tandem with "human rights" which the events (and you) seem to >> have covered quite effectively. >> >> Was the notion of democratic governance never discussed in any of these >> three events and if not, surely you as a scholar in the area of Global >> Governance might be expected to note this as an absence worthy of comment. >> >> Tks, >> >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: InternetPolicy [mailto:internetpolicy-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On >> Behalf Of "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" >> Sent: December 21, 2015 11:07 AM >> To: Frank, Carl ; Nick Ashton-Hart >> >> Cc: internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org >> Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] The Wuzhen Initiative & Fadi >> >> Hi >> >> FYI, here is hiw I see Wuzhen: >> http://www.circleid.com/members/5851/ >> >> Wolfgang >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: InternetPolicy im Auftrag von Frank, Carl >> Gesendet: Mo 21.12.2015 09:09 >> An: Nick Ashton-Hart >> Cc: internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org >> Betreff: Re: [Internet Policy] The Wuzhen Initiative & Fadi >> >> Nick: +1 >> >> Carl R. Frank >> 1776 K St NW >> Washington DC 20006 >> USA >> O + 1 202 719-7269 >> F + 1 202 719-7049 >> >> >>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:04 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart >> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Paul, >>> >>> Thanks for your time in replying. >>> >>> Let me start by saying that I understand the various caveats that you >> outline below related to the language in the document associated with the >> conference. >>> >>> Secondly, it is your view that it is false to suggest that agreeing to be >> involved in the outcome process of Wuzhen has no connection to the language >> the hosts have proposed for the initiative. Of course it is your prerogative >> to do that, but I simply don't believe that's true: that language is clearly >> stated as being proposed as the underpinnings of the initiative itself. >> Those of you who participate in it MAY be able to change it over the course >> of time, but we have to accept that the starting place is what is stated in >> the text, very clearly. >>> >>> If you are agreeing to be a part of a process which has a proposed >> foundation, which is the case for Fadi here (and the others presumably) then >> the reality is that you can expect the outside world to see you as >> identified with that process, and the process identified with the starting >> language. >>> >>> Let me be clear. The language in that document - and in specific the lack >> of the term 'multistakeholder' - is exactly what countries like China, >> Russia, and others (you can fill in the blanks) were pushing very hard for >> in the WSIS negotiations. It was an extreme effort into the early hours to >> keep that language out and end up with the balanced paragraphs we have now.. >> The language on state sovereignty in the Wuzhen document is also in the same >> category: a very heavy lift by a lot of people to prevent that really >> harmful construction from remaining in the WSIS outcome. >>> >>> Fadi - and anyone else who chose to be a part of the outcome process of >> Wuzhen - could have chosen to say that they would be a part of a process >> which would come up with a document with the elements in the declaration. >> However, instead, they climbed aboard the Wuzhen process despite it starting >> from a terrible, terrible place. >>> >>> I'm sorry, I respect the hell out of you Paul, but on this whole business >> we must agree to disagree. I believe it is entirely reasonable for the >> initiative to be associated with a document whose language is clearly >> intended by the hosts for that association to be made. I also believe that >> it was entirely inappropriate for Fadi to fly directly from New York to >> Wuzhen and so visibly be connected with an initiative that is itself so >> connected to such toxic language. He is extremely well-aware of how toxic >> the language in that text is and of what it took to keep it out of WSIS as >> Veni was on delegation to the negotiations, as was I. Saying that he'll be >> involved only in his personal capacity when he was clearly invited to speak >> at Wuzhen solely because he's ICANN CEO only makes the situation worse. >>> >>> Finally, I find it hard to believe that the timing of the Wuzhen summit >> was accidental in entirely overlapping with WSIS+10 in New York, given that >> Wuzhen was organised after the WSIS+10 dates were announced. I find it >> simply impossible to believe that the fact that the language presented in >> the Wuzhen outcome accidentally contained the very same toxic linguistic >> constructions that we have all fought so hard to get away from for a decade >> or longer. >>> >>> I think everyone here understands what China's view of open networks, and >> all that goes along with it, really is: it isn't as if they're not pretty >> open about it. If you believe that you can help to change their view by >> participating in Wuzhen, that's great! Engagement is important. However, >> lets all do it with our eyes open as to what that government's current >> motivations really are - and it isn't a multistakeholder, human-rights and >> people-centred Internet. Its an Orwellian one. >>> >>> >>>> On 21 Dec 2015, at 03:18, Paul Wilson wrote: >>>> >>>> With respect Nick, this is a serious misunderstanding and >> misrepresentation of what happened. >>>> >>>> The "Wuzhen initiative" is a statement by the WIC Secretariat, and not an >> outcome of the conference in any way. It was not presented to the >> conference, or even announced during the conference; it was released >> afterwards. And I don't think anyone is claiming otherwise, except >> mistakenly or with malice. >>>> >>>> The "High-level Advisory Committee" (HAC) did not produce the document. >> We were called to a meeting where the document was presented to us, and we >> gave our advice. The result of that discussion was positive: ensuring that >> the document was not presented as a result of the conference, or as any kind >> of "declaration" (which was on the cards initially), but rather as an >> initiative of the Secretariat. >>>> >>>> There was limited discussion with the HAC on the content of the >> document.. Of a few contributions in the time available, I made a strong >> but unsuccessful case that the "multistakeholder" should replace >> "multilateral" in the 5th clause; the counterargument was that the words >> used came from WSIS and are therefore acceptable, while at the same time the >> document does recognise the full range of stakeholders. (To be clear: the >> WSIS+10 documentation was not available at the time of this discussion; but >> we do now have a good precedent to bring in the WSIS+10 result at the next >> opportunity.) >>>> >>>> Finally, it's completely false, and quite outrageous frankly, to claim >> that Fadi endorsed any language in the WIC meeting; when as I said the >> document was not even released until after the meeting. As for claims of >> abuse and personal benefits, those are unjustified and completely unfair. >>>> >>>> This is not a good time to be subscribing to rumours and spinning up >> false stories, so I hope we can return to a rational discussion of Wuzhen >> and put it in a proper perspective. >>>> >>>> Paul. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 20 Dec 2015, at 18:28, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Joly, and others, >>>>> >>>>> From my perspective, Fadi went from the WSIS+10 Summit - where >> negotiators spent three nights until 0300 fighting to ensure >> multistakeholderism wasn't downgraded - to Wuzhen and endorsed the exact >> language we all fought so hard to get rid of in front of hundreds of >> millions of Chinese. >>>>> >>>>> What he did is frankly shameful and undermines what so many of us in >> the WSIS process have fought so hard for. The idea that he's doing this in >> his personal capacity is risible; he'd never have been offered a speaking >> slot in that capacity, only as ICANN's CEO. >>>>> >>>>> What he did is an abuse of his position and as far as I can tell >> entirely to benefit himself. It certainly doesn't benefit the Internet he >> claims to care so much about. >>>>> >>>>>> On 20 Dec 2015, at 00:12, Joly MacFie wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Was there mention of anything approaching multistakeholderism? What >> issues were to the fore? >>>>>> >>>>>> j >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 6:04 PM, TH Schee > > wrote: >>>>>> The initiative has been particularly powerful in China with regard to >> introducing of the whole idea around internet governance, given the Summit >> has been broadcasted all over CCTVs last week. The Wuzhen Initiative has >> effectively serve as the cornerstone of understanding for, say, if not a >> billion, hundreds of millions of people. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 6:56 AM, Joly MacFie > > wrote: >>>>>> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/18/ex_icann_ceo_will_work_with_china/ >> >>>>>> The official outline for the Wuzhen Initiative - designed by the >> High-Level Advisory Committee (HAC) that Chehade now co-chairs - appears >> harmless enough but contains what internet governance experts will >> immediately recognize as troubling efforts to legitimize online censorship. >>>>>> >>>>>> The second point of five guiding principles is "Fostering cultural >> diversity in the cyberspace." The fourth is "Ensuring peace and security in >> cyberspace," and the last is "Improving the global Internet governance." >>>>>> >>>>>> The document notes >> the "importance of respect for nations' sovereignty in cyberspace" and >> specifically fails to use the term "multi-stakeholder" in the context of >> internet governance, instead opting for the loaded term "multilateral," >> which is code for putting governments in overall control. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, >>>>>> please log into the ISOC Member Portal: >>>>>> https://portal.isoc.org/ >>>>>> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> TH Schee | M: +1-646-820-0002 | @scheeinfo >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> - >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, >>>>>> please log into the ISOC Member Portal: >>>>>> https://portal.isoc.org/ >>>>>> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, >>>>> please log into the ISOC Member Portal: >>>>> https://portal.isoc.org/ >>>>> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >>>> >>>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>>> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg at apnic.net >>>> http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, >>> please log into the ISOC Member Portal: >>> https://portal.isoc.org/ >>> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, >> please log into the ISOC Member Portal: >> https://portal.isoc.org/ >> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >> > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Mon Dec 21 16:39:41 2015 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos Afonso) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:39:41 -0200 Subject: [governance] CGI.br clarification note regarding blocking of Whatsapp in Brazil Message-ID: <5678719D.5030308@cafonso.ca> CLARIFICATION NOTE in virtue of the decision issued by the Honorable Judge of the 1st Lower Criminal Court of São Bernardo do Campo, ordering the suspension of the Internet application “Whatsapp” in the national territory of Brazil. 17-December-2015 The Brazilian Internet Steering Committee (CGI.br), after taking notice of some excerpts of the decision issued by the Honorable Judge of the 1st Lower Criminal court of São Bernardo do Campo, ordering fixed and mobile Internet Service Providers in Brazil to suspend for 48 hours the access to the domains whatsapp.net and whatsapp.com and the inherent subdomains by blocking the traffic of any content as well as all IP addresses related to such domains and subdomains, including by adopting measures aimed at clearing cache memories related to the latter, among other measures. HEREBY clarifies that Article 12 of Law 12.965/2014 (or simply “Marco Civil”) only authorizes the temporary suspension of the activities expressly and exhaustively listed in the caput of article 11 of Marco Civil, i.e., the collection, storage, retention and treatment of logs, personal data or communications by Internet access/connection and application providers. Accordingly, article 12 of Marco Civil cannot be construed as something that entails the full and unrestricted suspension of all activities of Internet services and applications providers that operate in Brazil. Moreover, the Steering Committee takes up this opportunity to reiterate some of the terms of a clarification note previously adopted by its board members on March 3, 2015, by which they evaluated a similar decision adopted by a lower court of the state of Piauí, specially in relation to the following aspects: 1) Article 12 of Law 12.965/2014 comprises a group of sanctions, namely warnings, fines, the temporary suspension of activities involving the acts specified in Article 11 as well as the prohibition of exercising those same activities. Those sanctions shall be applied gradually and must be strictly aimed at entities that violate the rules related to the protection of logs, personal data and private communications. 2) Any action taken against illicit activities on the network must be aimed at those directly responsible for such activities and not at the means of access and transport, always upholding the fundamental principles of freedom, privacy and the respect for human rights (Resolution CGI.br/Res/2009/03/P); 3) Item VI under Article 3 of Marco Civil restricts the liability of Internet stakeholders to the specific extent of the activities they perform; and 4) Article 18 of the same Law states that “the Internet connection provider shall not be subject to civil liability for damages resulting from content generated by third parties”. The members of the board of CGI.br believe that Marco Civil does not provide any legal ground for the unrestricted suspension of Internet services and other activities and measures that adversely affect a diffuse and indiscriminate group of Internet users in Brazil and in neighboring countries that use the infrastructure and services provided by Brazilian companies. Therefore, CGI.br takes note of the efforts entailed by telecommunications and network providers in the country to cope with the court order, in full compliance with Brazilian Law, in spite of not being parties to the respective action; and commends the Honorable Justice Dr. Xavier de Souza, of the Court of Appeals of the State of São Paulo, who issued a writ of mandamus to revoke the lower court's decision, normalizing the operation of Whatsapp in Brazil. His action realigned the jurisdictional process to the general principle of non-liability of the network comprised in CGI.br's Decalogue of Principles for the governance and use of the Internet, which provided the normative basis for the principles, guarantees, rights and duties enshrined in the Federal Law 12.965/2014. -- Carlos A. Afonso Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br CGI.br - http://cgi.br GPG 0x9EE8F8E3 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From milton at gatech.edu Mon Dec 21 22:17:48 2015 From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 03:17:48 +0000 Subject: [governance] CGI.br clarification note regarding blocking of Whatsapp in Brazil In-Reply-To: <5678719D.5030308@cafonso.ca> References: <5678719D.5030308@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: Good to see CGI.br reacting quickly to judicial excess. --MM > -----Original Message----- > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- > request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Afonso > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 4:40 PM > To: ISOC-BR ; Civil Society Internet Governance > Caucus - IGC ; BestBits List > > Subject: [governance] CGI.br clarification note regarding blocking of Whatsapp > in Brazil > > CLARIFICATION NOTE in virtue of the decision issued by the Honorable Judge > of the 1st Lower Criminal Court of São Bernardo do Campo, ordering the > suspension of the Internet application “Whatsapp” in the national territory of > Brazil. > > 17-December-2015 > > The Brazilian Internet Steering Committee (CGI.br), after taking notice of some > excerpts of the decision issued by the Honorable Judge of the 1st Lower > Criminal court of São Bernardo do Campo, ordering fixed and mobile Internet > Service Providers in Brazil to suspend for 48 hours the access to the domains > whatsapp.net and whatsapp.com and the inherent subdomains by blocking > the traffic of any content as well as all IP addresses related to such domains > and subdomains, including by adopting measures aimed at clearing cache > memories related to the latter, among other measures. > > HEREBY > > clarifies that Article 12 of Law 12.965/2014 (or simply “Marco Civil”) only > authorizes the temporary suspension of the activities expressly and > exhaustively listed in the caput of article 11 of Marco Civil, i.e., the collection, > storage, retention and treatment of logs, personal data or communications by > Internet access/connection and application providers. > Accordingly, article 12 of Marco Civil cannot be construed as something that > entails the full and unrestricted suspension of all activities of Internet services > and applications providers that operate in Brazil. > > Moreover, the Steering Committee takes up this opportunity to reiterate > some of the terms of a clarification note previously adopted by its board > members on March 3, 2015, by which they evaluated a similar decision > adopted by a lower court of the state of Piauí, specially in relation to the > following aspects: > > 1) Article 12 of Law 12.965/2014 comprises a group of sanctions, namely > warnings, fines, the temporary suspension of activities involving the acts > specified in Article 11 as well as the prohibition of exercising those same > activities. Those sanctions shall be applied gradually and must be strictly > aimed at entities that violate the rules related to the protection of logs, > personal data and private communications. > > 2) Any action taken against illicit activities on the network must be aimed at > those directly responsible for such activities and not at the means of access > and transport, always upholding the fundamental principles of freedom, > privacy and the respect for human rights (Resolution CGI.br/Res/2009/03/P); > > 3) Item VI under Article 3 of Marco Civil restricts the liability of Internet > stakeholders to the specific extent of the activities they perform; and > > 4) Article 18 of the same Law states that “the Internet connection provider > shall not be subject to civil liability for damages resulting from content > generated by third parties”. > > The members of the board of CGI.br believe that Marco Civil does not provide > any legal ground for the unrestricted suspension of Internet services and other > activities and measures that adversely affect a diffuse and indiscriminate > group of Internet users in Brazil and in neighboring countries that use the > infrastructure and services provided by Brazilian companies. > > Therefore, CGI.br takes note of the efforts entailed by telecommunications > and network providers in the country to cope with the court order, in full > compliance with Brazilian Law, in spite of not being parties to the respective > action; and commends the Honorable Justice Dr. Xavier de Souza, of the Court > of Appeals of the State of São Paulo, who issued a writ of mandamus to > revoke the lower court's decision, normalizing the operation of Whatsapp in > Brazil. His action realigned the jurisdictional process to the general principle > of non-liability of the network comprised in CGI.br's Decalogue of Principles > for the governance and use of the Internet, which provided the normative > basis for the principles, guarantees, rights and duties enshrined in the Federal > Law 12.965/2014. > > -- > > Carlos A. Afonso > Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br > CGI.br - http://cgi.br > > GPG 0x9EE8F8E3 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 05:59:37 2015 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:59:37 +0000 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input In-Reply-To: References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> Message-ID: So is this debate in fact about the following (IOW are we being asked to choose between two sides in the following antagonisms, sometimes meaning to choose the least among two evils)? The Powerful (private business) vs Government (presumably democratic), or verbatim: "the powerful" vs "democratic mechanism's representatives"? Or even more abstractly: Power vs Democracy, irrespective of whether that power is wielded by private entities or governments, democracy being the side wherr the people finds itself? Unfairness (to the economically least powerful) vs Centralization? Or Unfairness vs Capture enabled by centralization through government? Democracy vs Distributed system (governance)? Democratic governance vs Self-governance, "self" mostly referring to those with material stake or the resources to participate? This seems a bit confusion (despite all the rationality) but one thing becomes increasingly clear. The reluctance from some to apply the category of democracy to Internet governance stems from the limitations (and risks? dangers?) of democracy in their eyes. Is there a thoughtful - and as comprehensive as possible - articulation of those limitations, risks and/or dangers to be found somewhere? Do we think the two sets of concerns are irreconcilable? Mawaki On Dec 18, 2015 4:50 PM, "Garth Graham" wrote: > > > On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:14 AM, anita wrote: > > Pl find the link to a video clip and the corresponding transcript here: > http://www.itforchange.net/UNGA_WSIS10 > > Parminder concludes: > > …. left to itself the digital-network phenomenon will certainly be > appropriated by the powerful and will result in an even more unequal and > unfair world… > > Whereas I would conclude: Left to a "democratic mechanism for global > governance of the Internet” the digital-network phenomenon will certainly > be appropriated by the democratic mechanism’s representatives Centralizing > the governance of a distributed system makes it far more subject to capture > than by any other method. > > GG > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Tue Dec 22 06:41:52 2015 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:41:52 +0100 Subject: [governance] Democracy and IG (was Re: Text of Parminder's input) In-Reply-To: References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <20151222124152.1845dcb0@quill> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:59:37 +0000 Mawaki Chango wrote: > The reluctance from some to apply the > category of democracy to Internet governance stems from the > limitations (and risks? dangers?) of democracy in their eyes. At least in my understanding of those those viewpoints, they are not primarily intended to be anti-democratic and in fact I'm sure that many of the proponents of those viewpoints see themselves as being firmly pro-democratic. IMO the fears and concerns in relation to JNC and others insisting that like all other areas of governance, Internet governance must of course be democratic, arise from the following two facts: 1) It is hard to imagine an implementation of the principles of democracy that would not be state-based. 2) So far the track record of state actions in relation to the Internet is really, really bad, both for democratic and for non-democratic states. > Is > there a thoughtful - and as comprehensive as possible - articulation > of those limitations, risks and/or dangers to be found somewhere? Do > we think the two sets of concerns are irreconcilable? IMO it is certainly possible to create governance mechanisms that are suitable for Internet governance and other global concerns, and which are at the same time democratic and conductive to achieving good results. I have a concrete proposal at http://wisdomtaskforce.org/ Greetings, Norbert -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Tue Dec 22 07:53:17 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:23:17 +0530 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input In-Reply-To: References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <567947BD.4010205@itforchange.net> On Friday 18 December 2015 10:19 PM, Garth Graham wrote: >> On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:14 AM, anita wrote: >> Pl find the link to a video clip and the corresponding transcript here: http://www.itforchange.net/UNGA_WSIS10 > Parminder concludes: >> …. left to itself the digital-network phenomenon will certainly be appropriated by the powerful and will result in an even more unequal and unfair world… > Whereas I would conclude: Left to a "democratic mechanism for global governance of the Internet” the digital-network phenomenon will certainly be appropriated by the democratic mechanism’s representatives Centralizing the governance of a distributed system makes it far more subject to capture than by any other method. Garth, thanks for your engagement. Let me raise some questions about what to me seems to be somewhat convenient assumptions that we employ - and are employed above - in dismissing the case of democratic governance of the Internet, and its associated phenomenon. Due to paucity of time, my statement at the UN General Assembly was able to address only 3 of these unsubstantiated assumptions, and that too admittedly in a very summary manner. As I asked in the statement, how is trade less decentralised than Internet, or education, health or livelihood practices (say, agriculture)... All these have global governance bodies that have /not/ in the act somehow tied their decentralised nature into some singular global homogeneity - which would be no less problematic in these cases than it would be for the Internet. At the same time the UNESCOs, WHOs and FAOs of the world have done great great service to these respective sectors, through research work, capacity building, standards development, as well as through soft and hard law. I think the same would be true for the the impact of the Internet (and its associated digital phenomenon) on our social structures, which is rather deep and wide. One main problematic assumption of course is that governance of the Internet is often taken just in the sense of its technical governance - of protocols, names/ numbers, and such, while much bigger and much more important issues lie beyond, in social, economic, political and cultural realms. Because of this 'problematic assumption' people are often talking past one another. BTW, if you are such a fan of Internet's distributed nature, why then have a globally integrated and centrally (technically) managed Internet. Why not have a really federated Internet where different communities have their own Internet which they manage as they wish, and about which they negotiate inter-operability protocols with neighbours and others as they wish. (Why then is this term 'balkanisation of the Internet' is about the worst possible in the same discourse. It to be sounds like distributed, polycentric, amorphous, and so on..) Just taking your 'distributed Internet' thinking to its real and logical conclusions. I mean, just with the US gov and big business calling the shots with regard to the global Internet and in this process taking the cover of 'distributed governance' is not a sham I would like to allow the powerful to get away with. (Who decided that a generic name like .Book could be privatised? The world's distributed public!? or the US's big business and the reigning US political ideology and establishment.) Did you for instance notice that email service today is much more centralised - more and more around gmail - than it was 10 years ago, and have you thought of what is causing this, if not governance failures . I am happy to hear your explanation in this regard. In general, if you have clear and plausible suggestions about how the current moves towards greater and greater centralisation of the Internet can be reversed I am happy to hear them, and work with you on them. I think that a good part of this is because the powerful have been able to control the discursive spaces (including technical and large parts of civil society) in this area, and check the emergence of strong political forces that can seek people's sovereignty over the Internet (and its associated digital phenomenon) .... Unfortunately, they have done this in the name of terms like distributed governance (that suddenly became very current about 2 years back) or polycentric governance (Fadi's current favourite). If you really what the know what is distributed, bottom-up and so on, go to the people's movements in different areas, and forms like people's assemblies and the World Social Forum, and ask them if they agree with the globalisation's language of distributed, polycentric etc when it is used to destroy legitimate policy spaces! I am doing nothing other than extend that some logic to the IG space, where this problem has taken an even more vicious form. It is in the name of 'distributed' that the WEF inspired Net Mundial Initiative was set up, and now a Wuzhen Initiative is being spoke of. Both global digital superpowers, the US and China, want their own show in this space, which is understandable from their perspective. But why should people really concerned with global public interest and the interest of marginalised people buy into their vocabulary is what I find surprising, and which I wanted to put my finger on during the UN GA speech. parminder > > GG > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Tue Dec 22 08:20:00 2015 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:50:00 +0530 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input In-Reply-To: References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <56794E00.1020007@itforchange.net> On Tuesday 22 December 2015 04:29 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > > So is this debate in fact about the following (IOW are we being asked > to choose between two sides in the following antagonisms, sometimes > meaning to choose the least among two evils)? > > The Powerful (private business) vs Government (presumably democratic), > or verbatim: "the powerful" vs "democratic mechanism's representatives"? > Or even more abstractly: > Power vs Democracy, irrespective of whether that power is wielded by > private entities or governments, democracy being the side wherr the > people finds itself? > Yes, exactly Mawaki - 'democracy is the side where people are'... It is that which promises and ensures (as closely as possible) that every person has same and equal political rights as any other. And any political system can be tested against this clear principle - especially whether if it is headed in a more democratic direction or less. I dont see too much confusion here - people seem to be too easily confused about 'democracy' now a days. (Yes, there is a strong global movement today against dominant political cultures in different places, but that is against the respect political cultures and not against democracy, although this discontent is sought to be used by those who want to preserve their illegitimate political and economic power, which democracy challenges, by turning it into being against democracy.) Of course no political system is even close to being perfectly democratic (we are dealing with social phenomenon here not with calculus or geometry). But then what is more or less democratic can 'relatively' be easily judged by whether it increases people's power, and equability of their power, or decreases it. That is a simple test of democracy, that we must apply. For instance, I have not heard anyone try to describe how giving more political power to corporates, through including them in multistakeholder decision making increases people power (adn equality of power among them? But if one has such arguments please share them. ( I am reminded that one speaker on a panel on MSism and democracy at the IGF said that corporates 'included' - i think this was the word used - both the employees and consumers of a business and therefore they have a political role - of course paraphrasing and can be corrected.... And I immediately protested... I said that, in fact, it is from 'their' business owners that employees and consumers often needs public policy assistance/ protection the most. The fact that employees and consumers would likely be harmed if a business somehow disappears can no way be turned around to mean that in political terms the business somehow, to whatever extent, 'includes' the interests of the respective employees and consumers.) I used the above as at least an attempt to use a democratic test on a multistakeholderist political thinking, however ill-founded in my consideration. Putting a democracy test should not at all be that difficult - as long as we compare two political systems with sufficient degree of clarity of their configurations (which MSists never let on), or two stages of evolution of a political system. And not use the democracy test summarily, with a pre-conceived bias and objective -- Like saying, see, obviously this so called democratic thing is not too good, and 'therefore' lets adopt another system - to which we are ready to apply no test of democracy, ie show how the alternative is more democratic than the rejected one. In sum: in absolute terms 'democracy' may be unclear and confusing, but it so much less so in relative terms. And for practical actors, it is the relative that matters. Mawaki, basically, I am disagreeing with both the (related) propositions 1. That there is a huge amount of confusion around 'democratic' 2. There are any dangers or risks of democracy (as you mention below) parminder > Unfairness (to the economically least powerful) vs Centralization? Or > Unfairness vs Capture enabled by centralization through government? > > Democracy vs Distributed system (governance)? > Democratic governance vs Self-governance, "self" mostly referring to > those with material stake or the resources to participate? > > This seems a bit confusion (despite all the rationality) but one thing > becomes increasingly clear. The reluctance from some to apply the > category of democracy to Internet governance stems from the > limitations (and risks? dangers?) of democracy in their eyes. Is there > a thoughtful - and as comprehensive as possible - articulation of > those limitations, risks and/or dangers to be found somewhere? Do we > think the two sets of concerns are irreconcilable? > > Mawaki > > On Dec 18, 2015 4:50 PM, "Garth Graham" > wrote: > > > > On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:14 AM, anita > wrote: > > Pl find the link to a video clip and the corresponding > transcript here: http://www.itforchange.net/UNGA_WSIS10 > > Parminder concludes: > > …. left to itself the digital-network phenomenon will certainly > be appropriated by the powerful and will result in an even more > unequal and unfair world… > > Whereas I would conclude: Left to a "democratic mechanism for > global governance of the Internet” the digital-network phenomenon > will certainly be appropriated by the democratic mechanism’s > representatives Centralizing the governance of a distributed > system makes it far more subject to capture than by any other method. > > GG > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Tue Dec 22 08:26:24 2015 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos Afonso) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:26:24 -0200 Subject: [governance] CGI.br clarification note regarding blocking of Whatsapp in Brazil In-Reply-To: References: <5678719D.5030308@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <56794F80.10708@cafonso.ca> Considering we are a multistakeholder commission, it is not always easy to react on time, since nearly all decisions (including public statements) are taken by consensus. But in this case we had already issued a similar statement regarding a similar blocking of Whatsapp in February. Interestingly enough, the action-and-reaction process was the same (a higher court suspended the blocking a few hours later). In that case, however, the broadband providers resisted the blocking order with a countervailing legal action, while now they immediately complied. Actually they complied in such a haste as to make silly mistakes in the process (causing a propagation that blocked the service in Argentina, Chile, Costa Rica etc), as shown in the LACNOG technical debates on the subject. So, in summary, we had already the consensus template :-) fraternal regards --c.a. On 12/22/15 01:17, Mueller, Milton L wrote: > Good to see CGI.br reacting quickly to judicial excess. > --MM > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- >> request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Afonso >> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 4:40 PM >> To: ISOC-BR ; Civil Society Internet Governance >> Caucus - IGC ; BestBits List >> >> Subject: [governance] CGI.br clarification note regarding blocking of Whatsapp >> in Brazil >> >> CLARIFICATION NOTE in virtue of the decision issued by the Honorable Judge >> of the 1st Lower Criminal Court of São Bernardo do Campo, ordering the >> suspension of the Internet application “Whatsapp” in the national territory of >> Brazil. >> >> 17-December-2015 >> >> The Brazilian Internet Steering Committee (CGI.br), after taking notice of some >> excerpts of the decision issued by the Honorable Judge of the 1st Lower >> Criminal court of São Bernardo do Campo, ordering fixed and mobile Internet >> Service Providers in Brazil to suspend for 48 hours the access to the domains >> whatsapp.net and whatsapp.com and the inherent subdomains by blocking >> the traffic of any content as well as all IP addresses related to such domains >> and subdomains, including by adopting measures aimed at clearing cache >> memories related to the latter, among other measures. >> >> HEREBY >> >> clarifies that Article 12 of Law 12.965/2014 (or simply “Marco Civil”) only >> authorizes the temporary suspension of the activities expressly and >> exhaustively listed in the caput of article 11 of Marco Civil, i.e., the collection, >> storage, retention and treatment of logs, personal data or communications by >> Internet access/connection and application providers. >> Accordingly, article 12 of Marco Civil cannot be construed as something that >> entails the full and unrestricted suspension of all activities of Internet services >> and applications providers that operate in Brazil. >> >> Moreover, the Steering Committee takes up this opportunity to reiterate >> some of the terms of a clarification note previously adopted by its board >> members on March 3, 2015, by which they evaluated a similar decision >> adopted by a lower court of the state of Piauí, specially in relation to the >> following aspects: >> >> 1) Article 12 of Law 12.965/2014 comprises a group of sanctions, namely >> warnings, fines, the temporary suspension of activities involving the acts >> specified in Article 11 as well as the prohibition of exercising those same >> activities. Those sanctions shall be applied gradually and must be strictly >> aimed at entities that violate the rules related to the protection of logs, >> personal data and private communications. >> >> 2) Any action taken against illicit activities on the network must be aimed at >> those directly responsible for such activities and not at the means of access >> and transport, always upholding the fundamental principles of freedom, >> privacy and the respect for human rights (Resolution CGI.br/Res/2009/03/P); >> >> 3) Item VI under Article 3 of Marco Civil restricts the liability of Internet >> stakeholders to the specific extent of the activities they perform; and >> >> 4) Article 18 of the same Law states that “the Internet connection provider >> shall not be subject to civil liability for damages resulting from content >> generated by third parties”. >> >> The members of the board of CGI.br believe that Marco Civil does not provide >> any legal ground for the unrestricted suspension of Internet services and other >> activities and measures that adversely affect a diffuse and indiscriminate >> group of Internet users in Brazil and in neighboring countries that use the >> infrastructure and services provided by Brazilian companies. >> >> Therefore, CGI.br takes note of the efforts entailed by telecommunications >> and network providers in the country to cope with the court order, in full >> compliance with Brazilian Law, in spite of not being parties to the respective >> action; and commends the Honorable Justice Dr. Xavier de Souza, of the Court >> of Appeals of the State of São Paulo, who issued a writ of mandamus to >> revoke the lower court's decision, normalizing the operation of Whatsapp in >> Brazil. His action realigned the jurisdictional process to the general principle >> of non-liability of the network comprised in CGI.br's Decalogue of Principles >> for the governance and use of the Internet, which provided the normative >> basis for the principles, guarantees, rights and duties enshrined in the Federal >> Law 12.965/2014. >> >> -- >> >> Carlos A. Afonso >> Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br >> CGI.br - http://cgi.br >> >> GPG 0x9EE8F8E3 > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- Carlos A. Afonso Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br CGI.br - http://cgi.br GPG 0x9EE8F8E3 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From garth.graham at telus.net Tue Dec 22 12:27:04 2015 From: garth.graham at telus.net (Garth Graham) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:27:04 -0800 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input In-Reply-To: <567947BD.4010205@itforchange.net> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> <567947BD.4010205@itforchange.net> Message-ID: > On Dec 22, 2015, at 4:53 AM, parminder wrote: > > On Friday 18 December 2015 10:19 PM, Garth Graham wrote: >>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:14 AM, anita wrote: >>> Pl find the link to a video clip and the corresponding transcript here: >>> http://www.itforchange.net/UNGA_WSIS10 >>> >> Parminder concludes: >>> …. left to itself the digital-network phenomenon will certainly be appropriated by the powerful and will result in an even more unequal and unfair world… >>> >> Whereas I would conclude: Left to a "democratic mechanism for global governance of the Internet” the digital-network phenomenon will certainly be appropriated by the democratic mechanism’s representatives. Centralizing the governance of a distributed system makes it far more subject to capture than by any other method. > > …….. If you really what the know what is distributed, bottom-up and so on, go to the people's movements in different areas, and forms like people's assemblies and the World Social Forum, and ask them if they agree with the globalisation's language of distributed, polycentric etc when it is used to destroy legitimate policy spaces! I am doing nothing other than extend that some logic to the IG space, where this problem has taken an even more vicious form. > From: Mawaki Chango > Subject: Re: [governance] Text of Parminder's input > Date: December 22, 2015 at 2:59:37 AM PST > > …… The reluctance from some to apply the category of democracy to Internet governance stems from the limitations (and risks? dangers?) of democracy in their eyes. Is there a thoughtful - and as comprehensive as possible - articulation of those limitations, risks and/or dangers to be found somewhere? Do we think the two sets of concerns are irreconcilable? For me, it’s not so much a question of reconciliation within existing frameworks as it is a question of reframing the question. I have spent some time thinking about this. One of my recent attempts at summary might serve to flesh out the cryptic 2 sentences I posted, even it’s not a direct response to the concerns raised by Mawaki Chango and Parminder: Garth Graham. Cooperating community connections: a changing political reality, October 7, 2014: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=49357134&preview=/49357134/49418555/connect.pdf GG -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 12:38:50 2015 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:38:50 +0000 Subject: [governance] Democracy and IG (was Re: Text of Parminder's input) In-Reply-To: <20151222124152.1845dcb0@quill> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> <20151222124152.1845dcb0@quill> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 1:20 PM, parminder wrote: (snippets, from latest reply in thread under subject line: "Text of Parminder's input") > > > In sum: in absolute terms 'democracy' may be unclear and confusing, but it > so much less so in relative terms. And for practical actors, it is the > relative that matters. > > > Mawaki, basically, I am disagreeing with both the (related) propositions > > 1. That there is a huge amount of confusion around 'democratic' > Just to be clear, I was humbly referring to my proposed ordering of the arguments when I used the term 'confusing'. > > 2. There are any dangers or risks of democracy (as you mention below) > ​Your whole argument, Parminder, has been heard loud and clear by this participant. ​ On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Norbert Bollow wrote: > On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:59:37 +0000 > Mawaki Chango wrote: > > > The reluctance from some to apply the > > category of democracy to Internet governance stems from the > > limitations (and risks? dangers?) of democracy in their eyes. > > At least in my understanding of those those viewpoints, they are not > primarily intended to be anti-democratic and in fact I'm sure that many > of the proponents of those viewpoints see themselves as being firmly > pro-democratic. > ​Sure! Just to be clear, I didn't mean to suggest that they had anti-democratic leanings. As pro-democratic as we may all be (or most of us anyway), we may still be critical about how far democracy has taken us and can still take us, and particularly whether it offers the best governance model to apply to IG, which AFAIK is the specific and sole context the arguments ​ I was trying to recap w ​ere meant ​for​ . ​ > > IMO the fears and concerns in relation to JNC and others insisting > that like all other areas of governance, Internet governance must of > course be democratic, arise from the following two facts: > > 1) It is hard to imagine an implementation of the principles of > democracy that would not be state-based. > > 2) So far the track record of state actions in relation to the Internet > is really, really bad, both for democratic and for non-democratic > states. > > > Is > > there a thoughtful - and as comprehensive as possible - articulation > > of those limitations, risks and/or dangers to be found somewhere? Do > > we think the two sets of concerns are irreconcilable? > > IMO it is certainly possible to create governance mechanisms that are > suitable for Internet governance and other global concerns, and which > are at the same time democratic and conductive to achieving good > results. > ​I guess all the devil here is in that "achieving good results." What is good for one, is that good for the other?​ ​I guess I shall be looking for a response to that question the wisdom task force proposal.​ > I have a concrete proposal at > ​​ > http://wisdomtaskforce.org/ ​While I haven't read all of it (yet... hopefully), this seems to point to the right direction overall if the purpose is to achieve the goal of effective decision-making mechanism based on democratic principles, which will be acceptable to all, both individual participants and stakeholders. I guess your response is nudging me to clarify and complement the question I previously put to one side of the argument by formulating a two-sided request. It would be most useful if: 1. On the one hand, the party that doesn't want any reference to democracy when it comes to IG can point to or develop a systematic critical assessment of democracy (more specifically, of democratic governance processes) as may relate to the global IG context, including the issues they seek to thus resolve or avoid; and 2. On the other hand, the party insisting on having IG processes to be democratic can point to or develop a working mechanism of democratic decision-making and governance that will be applicable in the global IG context (and if I understand it correctly, this is what the IWTF proposal is about?) ​ ​Mawaki​ > > > Greetings, > Norbert > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jovank at diplomacy.edu Tue Dec 22 13:10:00 2015 From: jovank at diplomacy.edu (Jovan Kurbalija) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 19:10:00 +0100 Subject: [governance] Rough consensus & Ambiguous compromise in the WSIS+10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35E0BAC9-E217-4882-B195-DD8723A1F0EE@diplomacy.edu> Here are a few reflections from the WSIS+10 ..… http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jovan-kurbalija/rounh-consensus-ambigious_b_8848952.html Have a nice holidays! Jovan -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 13:50:17 2015 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:50:17 -0800 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input In-Reply-To: References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> <567947BD.4010205@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <15c0201d13ce9$9cab3ed0$d601bc70$@gmail.com> Thanks for this very interesting reference Garth. I have several points of disagreement (as well as points of agreement) but I think the major one and the one from which the other disagreements flow is the following: You say: “the governance structuring complex adaptive systems, or self-organizing systems like the Internet, is internalized or distributed among the elements that make it up. The parts of the whole system all contain within themselves simple rules of relationship that govern the structure or patterns of behavior that the whole expresses in the world. I think that it is possible to see the arrangements you are describing above in some idealized misty past of the Internet (or perhaps more likely an idealized misty vision of what the Internet could and should have been), but the reality as seen and experienced in “this is 2015” is, as I’m expecting that you will agree, rather different. What we see is governments globally attempting desperately (and frequently successfully) to “govern” their portion of the Internet; efforts towards global governance regimes which by enshrining either a “presence” or an “absence” of “management” structures ensure in either case that the future Internet will be managed by forces which have little or nothing to do with your “complex adaptive systems”; and finally we have the rapid emergence of global transnational corporate driven “platforms” which in their mode and content of governance mirror, challenge and supersede national (and supra-national) structures of governance in support of private corporate interests. You may wish for some sort of hidden hand as the ultimate governance dynamic of the Internet but I think it is rather more in the form of velvet gloves over (rapidly emerging if still to some degree emerging) fists of steel. M -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Garth Graham Sent: December 22, 2015 9:27 AM To: Internet Governance Subject: Re: [governance] Text of Parminder's input > On Dec 22, 2015, at 4:53 AM, parminder < parminder at itforchange.net> wrote: > > On Friday 18 December 2015 10:19 PM, Garth Graham wrote: >>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:14 AM, anita < anita at itforchange.net> wrote: >>> Pl find the link to a video clip and the corresponding transcript here: >>> http://www.itforchange.net/UNGA_WSIS10 >>> >> Parminder concludes: >>> …. left to itself the digital-network phenomenon will certainly be appropriated by the powerful and will result in an even more unequal and unfair world… >>> >> Whereas I would conclude: Left to a "democratic mechanism for global governance of the Internet” the digital-network phenomenon will certainly be appropriated by the democratic mechanism’s representatives. Centralizing the governance of a distributed system makes it far more subject to capture than by any other method. > > …….. If you really what the know what is distributed, bottom-up and so on, go to the people's movements in different areas, and forms like people's assemblies and the World Social Forum, and ask them if they agree with the globalisation's language of distributed, polycentric etc when it is used to destroy legitimate policy spaces! I am doing nothing other than extend that some logic to the IG space, where this problem has taken an even more vicious form. > From: Mawaki Chango < kichango at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [governance] Text of Parminder's input > Date: December 22, 2015 at 2:59:37 AM PST > > …… The reluctance from some to apply the category of democracy to Internet governance stems from the limitations (and risks? dangers?) of democracy in their eyes. Is there a thoughtful - and as comprehensive as possible - articulation of those limitations, risks and/or dangers to be found somewhere? Do we think the two sets of concerns are irreconcilable? For me, it’s not so much a question of reconciliation within existing frameworks as it is a question of reframing the question. I have spent some time thinking about this. One of my recent attempts at summary might serve to flesh out the cryptic 2 sentences I posted, even it’s not a direct response to the concerns raised by Mawaki Chango and Parminder: Garth Graham. Cooperating community connections: a changing political reality, October 7, 2014: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=49357134&preview=/49357134/49418555/connect.pdf GG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hence a negative connotation. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs at TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD The World | Public Access Internet | Since 1989 *oo* -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Tue Dec 22 15:21:52 2015 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 21:21:52 +0100 Subject: [governance] Democracy and IG (was Re: Text of Parminder's input) In-Reply-To: References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> <20151222124152.1845dcb0@quill> Message-ID: <20151222212152.7629cc95@quill> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:38:50 +0000 Mawaki Chango wrote: > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Norbert Bollow wrote: > > IMO it is certainly possible to create governance mechanisms that > > are suitable for Internet governance and other global concerns, and > > which are at the same time democratic and conductive to achieving > > good results. > > ​I guess all the devil here is in that "achieving good results." What > is good for one, is that good for the other?​ What I mean with "good results" is first of all results that uphold and implement everyone's humane rights, and where secondly the results are in accordance with majority intentions in democratic decision-making. This presupposes democratic decision-making processes that are much better informed about the effects of Internet related decision proposals than governments, parliaments and judges currently are. What I mean with "good results" does not imply that the results would necessarily be seen as good from the perspective of any particular person's perceived self-interest, although at least their human rights will be respected and protected -- and as this includes not only civil and political rights such as privacy and freedom of communication and freedom of expression, but also social and economic rights, this is already quite a lot. > ​I guess I shall be looking for a response to that question the > wisdom task force proposal.​ The answer which I give above is indeed implicit in the design of my "International Wisdom Task Force" proposal. > > I have a concrete proposal at > > ​​ > > http://wisdomtaskforce.org/ > > > ​While I haven't read all of it (yet... hopefully), this seems to > point to the right direction overall if the purpose is to achieve the > goal of effective decision-making mechanism based on democratic > principles, which will be acceptable to all, both individual > participants and stakeholders. > > I guess your response is nudging me to clarify and complement the > question I previously put to one side of the argument by formulating > a two-sided request. It would be most useful if: > > 1. On the one hand, the party that doesn't want any reference to > democracy when it comes to IG can point to or develop a systematic > critical assessment of democracy (more specifically, of democratic > governance processes) as may relate to the global IG context, > including the issues they seek to thus resolve or avoid; and > > 2. On the other hand, the party insisting on having IG processes to be > democratic can point to or develop a working mechanism of democratic > decision-making and governance that will be applicable in the global > IG context (and if I understand it correctly, this is what the IWTF > proposal is about?) ​ Yes, these are precisely the reasons why I posted the link: To substantiate my claim that formal democratic decision-making can be reconciled with the needs of Internet governance, and to thereby (implicitly) challenge those who believe such a reconciliation to be impossible, so that they would hopefully try to present better arguments than what they have presented so far. 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Giacomo From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Jovan Kurbalija Sent: mardi 22 décembre 2015 19:10 To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Cc: Jovan Kurbalija Subject: [governance] Rough consensus & Ambiguous compromise in the WSIS+10 Here are a few reflections from the WSIS+10 ..… http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jovan-kurbalija/rounh-consensus-ambigious_b_8848952.html Have a nice holidays! 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Jane From: > on behalf of "Mazzone, Giacomo" > Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" >, "Mazzone, Giacomo" > Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 at 9:39 PM To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" >, Jovan Kurbalija > Subject: RE: [governance] Rough consensus & Ambiguous compromise in the WSIS+10 Thank you Jovan. A lot of wishes to all the members of the mailing list. Giacomo From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Jovan Kurbalija Sent: mardi 22 décembre 2015 19:10 To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Cc: Jovan Kurbalija Subject: [governance] Rough consensus & Ambiguous compromise in the WSIS+10 Here are a few reflections from the WSIS+10 ..… http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jovan-kurbalija/rounh-consensus-ambigious_b_8848952.html Have a nice holidays! Jovan ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t ________________________________ ************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by the mailgateway ************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From garth.graham at telus.net Wed Dec 23 11:13:30 2015 From: garth.graham at telus.net (Garth Graham) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 08:13:30 -0800 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input In-Reply-To: <15c0201d13ce9$9cab3ed0$d601bc70$@gmail.com> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> <567947BD.4010205@itforchange.net> <15c0201d13ce9$9cab3ed0$d601bc70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: > On Dec 22, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Michael Gurstein wrote: > > …… You say: “the governance structuring complex adaptive systems, or self-organizing systems like the Internet, is internalized or distributed among the elements that make it up. > The parts of the whole system all contain within themselves simple rules of relationship that govern the structure or patterns of behavior that the whole expresses in the world. > > I think that it is possible to see the arrangements you are describing above in some idealized misty past of the Internet (or perhaps more likely an idealized misty vision of what the Internet could and should have been), but the reality as seen and experienced in “this is 2015” is, as I’m expecting that you will agree, rather different. > > What we see is governments globally attempting desperately (and frequently successfully) to “govern” their portion of the Internet; efforts towards global governance regimes which by enshrining either a “presence” or an “absence” of “management” structures ensure in either case that the future Internet will be managed by forces which have little or nothing to do with your “complex adaptive systems”; and finally we have the rapid emergence of global transnational corporate driven “platforms” which in their mode and content of governance mirror, challenge and supersede national (and supra-national) structures of governance in support of private corporate interests. > > You may wish for some sort of hidden hand as the ultimate governance dynamic of the Internet but I think it is rather more in the form of velvet gloves over (rapidly emerging if still to some degree emerging) fists of steel. So you want me to play misty for you? (Sorry, couldn’t resist). Actually, rather than nostalgia for the good old days, my [vision?] is even darker than the one you paint. In the context of a conventional framing of power and politics, yes, the forces you note are at play. But, in the context of an effective response to climate change, one that plays towards sustainability and resilience, if we don’t consciously practice complex adaptive systems thinking then (to paraphrase Yeats), ecologies fall apart, the centre cannot hold. The fabric that nets up the world is one of complex adaptive systems, of which the Internet is merely one. Community Informatics nailed it when it declared that the global was a federation of locals because, of course, from a complex adaptive systems view, so is everything else. I am all too well aware that nation states and corporations don’t agree. But I also believe that “civil society” is quite capable of assuming the mantle of social justice and democracy in a rush towards the same centralizing totalitarianism that is being sought by nation states and corporations. The winning strategy remains grounded in the individual. Connect (or cooperate), until the other defects, then compete until the other connects. And, yes, all that does is restate the golden rule in systems terms. GG > -----Original Message----- > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Garth Graham > Sent: December 22, 2015 9:27 AM > To: Internet Governance > Subject: Re: [governance] Text of Parminder's input > > > On Dec 22, 2015, at 4:53 AM, parminder wrote: > > > > On Friday 18 December 2015 10:19 PM, Garth Graham wrote: > >>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 8:14 AM, anita wrote: > >>> Pl find the link to a video clip and the corresponding transcript here: > >>> http://www.itforchange.net/UNGA_WSIS10 > >>> > >> Parminder concludes: > >>> …. left to itself the digital-network phenomenon will certainly be appropriated by the powerful and will result in an even more unequal and unfair world… > >>> > >> Whereas I would conclude: Left to a "democratic mechanism for global governance of the Internet” the digital-network phenomenon will certainly be appropriated by the democratic mechanism’s representatives. Centralizing the governance of a distributed system makes it far more subject to capture than by any other method. > > > > …….. If you really what the know what is distributed, bottom-up and so on, go to the people's movements in different areas, and forms like people's assemblies and the World Social Forum, and ask them if they agree with the globalisation's language of distributed, polycentric etc when it is used to destroy legitimate policy spaces! I am doing nothing other than extend that some logic to the IG space, where this problem has taken an even more vicious form. > > > > From: Mawaki Chango > > Subject: Re: [governance] Text of Parminder's input > > Date: December 22, 2015 at 2:59:37 AM PST > > > > …… The reluctance from some to apply the category of democracy to Internet governance stems from the limitations (and risks? dangers?) of democracy in their eyes. Is there a thoughtful - and as comprehensive as possible - articulation of those limitations, risks and/or dangers to be found somewhere? Do we think the two sets of concerns are irreconcilable? > > For me, it’s not so much a question of reconciliation within existing frameworks as it is a question of reframing the question. I have spent some time thinking about this. One of my recent attempts at summary might serve to flesh out the cryptic 2 sentences I posted, even it’s not a direct response to the concerns raised by Mawaki Chango and Parminder: > > Garth Graham. Cooperating community connections: a changing political reality, October 7, 2014: > https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=49357134&preview=/49357134/49418555/connect.pdf > > GG -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Wed Dec 23 11:47:56 2015 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:17:56 +0530 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input In-Reply-To: References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> <567947BD.4010205@itforchange.net> <15c0201d13ce9$9cab3ed0$d601bc70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A9EB33B-CA68-4C8D-80EF-E94444DF0A68@hserus.net> True. Building bridges among stakeholders rather than engaging in a power struggle the ultimate winners of which are going to be the governments strikes me as a losing proposition --srs > On 23-Dec-2015, at 9:43 PM, Garth Graham wrote: > > Connect (or cooperate), until the other defects, then compete until the other connects. And, yes, all that does is restate the golden rule in systems terms. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 13:50:49 2015 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 18:50:49 +0000 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input In-Reply-To: <4A9EB33B-CA68-4C8D-80EF-E94444DF0A68@hserus.net> References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> <567947BD.4010205@itforchange.net> <15c0201d13ce9$9cab3ed0$d601bc70$@gmail.com> <4A9EB33B-CA68-4C8D-80EF-E94444DF0A68@hserus.net> Message-ID: Do you mean to say building bridges among stakeholders strikes you as a losing proposition? Am I following your sentence structure correctly? mC On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > True. Building bridges among stakeholders rather than engaging in a power > struggle the ultimate winners of which are going to be the governments > strikes me as a losing proposition > > --srs > > > On 23-Dec-2015, at 9:43 PM, Garth Graham wrote: > > > > Connect (or cooperate), until the other defects, then compete until the > other connects. And, yes, all that does is restate the golden rule in > systems terms. > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Wed Dec 23 14:05:13 2015 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 20:05:13 +0100 Subject: [governance] Complex adaptive systems thinking (was Re: Text of Parminder's input) In-Reply-To: References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> <567947BD.4010205@itforchange.net> <15c0201d13ce9$9cab3ed0$d601bc70$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20151223200513.20c8ea4c@quill> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 08:13:30 -0800 Garth Graham wrote: > But, in the context of an effective response to climate > change, one that plays towards sustainability and resilience, if we > don’t consciously practice complex adaptive systems thinking then (to > paraphrase Yeats), ecologies fall apart, the centre cannot hold. I agree. Although I would hasten to add that not nearly enough people will be willing to learn enough about complex adaptive systems thinking and to put it in practice, unless extremely strong incentives in favor of doing so will be created by means of appropriate, massively strong regulatory interventions. > The > fabric that nets up the world is one of complex adaptive systems, of > which the Internet is merely one. Community Informatics nailed it > when it declared that the global was a federation of locals because, > of course, from a complex adaptive systems view, so is everything > else. I am all too well aware that nation states and corporations > don’t agree. But I also believe that “civil society” is quite > capable of assuming the mantle of social justice and democracy in a > rush towards the same centralizing totalitarianism that is being > sought by nation states and corporations. The winning strategy > remains grounded in the individual. Connect (or cooperate), until > the other defects, then compete until the other connects. And, yes, > all that does is restate the golden rule in systems terms. Again I fully agree. And I again I would insist that in addition to the bottom-up federation of networks structure, some degree of global coordination is needed, which needs to be consensus-based to the extent possible, and based on a firm foundation of formal democratic processes for decisions on matters where governance decisions are needed but no consensus can be reached. Greetings, Norbert -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Wed Dec 23 22:08:08 2015 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 08:38:08 +0530 Subject: [governance] Text of Parminder's input In-Reply-To: References: <56719907.2010909@cafonso.ca> <5672DF7D.4050807@itforchange.net> <567947BD.4010205@itforchange.net> <15c0201d13ce9$9cab3ed0$d601bc70$@gmail.com> <4A9EB33B-CA68-4C8D-80EF-E94444DF0A68@hserus.net> Message-ID: I wrote that in a hurry. The other part - power struggle where the ultimate winners are the governments, with those GONGOs that are content and even happy to lobby for government interests possibly discarded by the wayside is what strikes me as a losing proposition --srs > On 24-Dec-2015, at 12:20 AM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > > Do you mean to say building bridges among stakeholders strikes you as a losing proposition? Am I following your sentence structure correctly? > > mC > > >> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: >> True. Building bridges among stakeholders rather than engaging in a power struggle the ultimate winners of which are going to be the governments strikes me as a losing proposition >> >> --srs >> >> > On 23-Dec-2015, at 9:43 PM, Garth Graham wrote: >> > >> > Connect (or cooperate), until the other defects, then compete until the other connects. And, yes, all that does is restate the golden rule in systems terms. >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 19:04:23 2015 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 16:04:23 -0800 Subject: [governance] [Internet Policy] The Wuzhen Initiative & Fadi In-Reply-To: <78C43418-4373-4E7F-9C72-645155142C7E@consensus.pro> References: <8572D0FA-DF58-403A-9ABA-B293DA48843A@wileyrein.com> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A801A2A521@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <2a9401d13c2e$20d22460$62766d20$@gmail.com> <78C43418-4373-4E7F-9C72-645155142C7E@consensus.pro> Message-ID: <1a6d701d13ea7$d06426a0$712c73e0$@gmail.com> Yes, of course, as David Allen has already pointed out... I'm sure there were no end of rhetorical flourishes referencing "democracy" from every corner. But what was interesting and significant about Wolfgang's summary was how little concern appears to have bubbled up to go beyond the rhetoric to the rather much more difficult but absolutely essential reality of how to achieve democratic governance of the Internet. Clearly there is little interest in democratic governance coming from the Wuzhen Initiative and if the same can be said for the multistakeholder friendly IGF (where practical discussions of democratic Internet Governance are noticeable by their effectively total absence) or from the Developing Country (SDG) focused WSIS +10 initiative then the role for democratic governance in an Internet dominated 21st century would appear to be a truly bleak one. The various science fiction dystopias which have fueled much of the more interesting thinking around the Internet and it's future which for whatever reason have largely focused in on neo-feudal structures as our likely collective future (Star Wars?) would appear to be moving into position at an even more rapid pace than even the most pessimistic have predicted. Best of the season to one and all, M -----Original Message----- From: Nick Ashton-Hart [mailto:nashton at consensus.pro] Sent: December 21, 2015 12:31 PM To: Michael Gurstein Cc: Wolfgang Kleinwächter ; Frank, Carl ; internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org; governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] The Wuzhen Initiative & Fadi Dear Michael, The WSIS+10 documents very definitely includes that concept, as did dozens of the speeches made by countries at the conference itself endorsing the outcome document. > On 21 Dec 2015, at 21:28, Michael Gurstein wrote: > > Thanks for this most interesting and useful document Wolfgang. > > However, I read it and even reread it looking for any reference to > "democracy" as a principle for Internet Governance (if only > aspirational), perhaps in tandem with "human rights" which the events > (and you) seem to have covered quite effectively. > > Was the notion of democratic governance never discussed in any of > these three events and if not, surely you as a scholar in the area of > Global Governance might be expected to note this as an absence worthy of comment. > > Tks, > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: InternetPolicy [mailto:internetpolicy-bounces at elists.isoc.org] > On Behalf Of "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" > Sent: December 21, 2015 11:07 AM > To: Frank, Carl ; Nick Ashton-Hart > > Cc: internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org > Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] The Wuzhen Initiative & Fadi > > Hi > > FYI, here is hiw I see Wuzhen: > http://www.circleid.com/members/5851/ > > Wolfgang > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: InternetPolicy im Auftrag von Frank, Carl > Gesendet: Mo 21.12.2015 09:09 > An: Nick Ashton-Hart > Cc: internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org > Betreff: Re: [Internet Policy] The Wuzhen Initiative & Fadi > > Nick: +1 > > Carl R. Frank > 1776 K St NW > Washington DC 20006 > USA > O + 1 202 719-7269 > F + 1 202 719-7049 > > >> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:04 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart > wrote: >> >> Dear Paul, >> >> Thanks for your time in replying. >> >> Let me start by saying that I understand the various caveats that you > outline below related to the language in the document associated with > the conference. >> >> Secondly, it is your view that it is false to suggest that agreeing >> to be > involved in the outcome process of Wuzhen has no connection to the > language the hosts have proposed for the initiative. Of course it is > your prerogative to do that, but I simply don't believe that's true: > that language is clearly stated as being proposed as the underpinnings of the initiative itself. > Those of you who participate in it MAY be able to change it over the > course of time, but we have to accept that the starting place is what > is stated in the text, very clearly. >> >> If you are agreeing to be a part of a process which has a proposed > foundation, which is the case for Fadi here (and the others > presumably) then the reality is that you can expect the outside world > to see you as identified with that process, and the process identified > with the starting language. >> >> Let me be clear. The language in that document - and in specific the >> lack > of the term 'multistakeholder' - is exactly what countries like China, > Russia, and others (you can fill in the blanks) were pushing very hard > for in the WSIS negotiations. It was an extreme effort into the early > hours to keep that language out and end up with the balanced paragraphs we have now.. > The language on state sovereignty in the Wuzhen document is also in > the same > category: a very heavy lift by a lot of people to prevent that really > harmful construction from remaining in the WSIS outcome. >> >> Fadi - and anyone else who chose to be a part of the outcome process >> of > Wuzhen - could have chosen to say that they would be a part of a > process which would come up with a document with the elements in the declaration. > However, instead, they climbed aboard the Wuzhen process despite it > starting from a terrible, terrible place. >> >> I'm sorry, I respect the hell out of you Paul, but on this whole >> business > we must agree to disagree. I believe it is entirely reasonable for the > initiative to be associated with a document whose language is clearly > intended by the hosts for that association to be made. I also believe > that it was entirely inappropriate for Fadi to fly directly from New > York to Wuzhen and so visibly be connected with an initiative that is > itself so connected to such toxic language. He is extremely well-aware > of how toxic the language in that text is and of what it took to keep > it out of WSIS as Veni was on delegation to the negotiations, as was > I. Saying that he'll be involved only in his personal capacity when he > was clearly invited to speak at Wuzhen solely because he's ICANN CEO only makes the situation worse. >> >> Finally, I find it hard to believe that the timing of the Wuzhen >> summit > was accidental in entirely overlapping with WSIS+10 in New York, given > that Wuzhen was organised after the WSIS+10 dates were announced. I > find it simply impossible to believe that the fact that the language > presented in the Wuzhen outcome accidentally contained the very same > toxic linguistic constructions that we have all fought so hard to get > away from for a decade or longer. >> >> I think everyone here understands what China's view of open networks, >> and > all that goes along with it, really is: it isn't as if they're not > pretty open about it. If you believe that you can help to change their > view by participating in Wuzhen, that's great! Engagement is > important. However, lets all do it with our eyes open as to what that > government's current motivations really are - and it isn't a > multistakeholder, human-rights and people-centred Internet. Its an Orwellian one. >> >> >>> On 21 Dec 2015, at 03:18, Paul Wilson wrote: >>> >>> With respect Nick, this is a serious misunderstanding and > misrepresentation of what happened. >>> >>> The "Wuzhen initiative" is a statement by the WIC Secretariat, and >>> not an > outcome of the conference in any way. It was not presented to the > conference, or even announced during the conference; it was released > afterwards. And I don't think anyone is claiming otherwise, except > mistakenly or with malice. >>> >>> The "High-level Advisory Committee" (HAC) did not produce the document. > We were called to a meeting where the document was presented to us, > and we gave our advice. The result of that discussion was positive: > ensuring that the document was not presented as a result of the > conference, or as any kind of "declaration" (which was on the cards > initially), but rather as an initiative of the Secretariat. >>> >>> There was limited discussion with the HAC on the content of the > document.. Of a few contributions in the time available, I made a > strong but unsuccessful case that the "multistakeholder" should > replace "multilateral" in the 5th clause; the counterargument was > that the words used came from WSIS and are therefore acceptable, while at the same time the > document does recognise the full range of stakeholders. (To be clear: the > WSIS+10 documentation was not available at the time of this > WSIS+discussion; but > we do now have a good precedent to bring in the WSIS+10 result at the > next > opportunity.) >>> >>> Finally, it's completely false, and quite outrageous frankly, to >>> claim > that Fadi endorsed any language in the WIC meeting; when as I said the > document was not even released until after the meeting. As for claims > of abuse and personal benefits, those are unjustified and completely unfair. >>> >>> This is not a good time to be subscribing to rumours and spinning up > false stories, so I hope we can return to a rational discussion of > Wuzhen and put it in a proper perspective. >>> >>> Paul. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 20 Dec 2015, at 18:28, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Joly, and others, >>>> >>>> From my perspective, Fadi went from the WSIS+10 Summit - where > negotiators spent three nights until 0300 fighting to ensure > multistakeholderism wasn't downgraded - to Wuzhen and endorsed the > exact language we all fought so hard to get rid of in front of > hundreds of millions of Chinese. >>>> >>>> What he did is frankly shameful and undermines what so many of us >>>> in > the WSIS process have fought so hard for. The idea that he's doing > this in his personal capacity is risible; he'd never have been offered > a speaking slot in that capacity, only as ICANN's CEO. >>>> >>>> What he did is an abuse of his position and as far as I can tell > entirely to benefit himself. It certainly doesn't benefit the Internet > he claims to care so much about. >>>> >>>>> On 20 Dec 2015, at 00:12, Joly MacFie wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Was there mention of anything approaching multistakeholderism? >>>>> What > issues were to the fore? >>>>> >>>>> j >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 6:04 PM, TH Schee > wrote: >>>>> The initiative has been particularly powerful in China with regard >>>>> to > introducing of the whole idea around internet governance, given the > Summit has been broadcasted all over CCTVs last week. The Wuzhen > Initiative has effectively serve as the cornerstone of understanding > for, say, if not a billion, hundreds of millions of people. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 6:56 AM, Joly MacFie > wrote: >>>>> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/18/ex_icann_ceo_will_work_with_ch > ina/ > hina/> >>>>> The official outline for the Wuzhen Initiative - designed by the > High-Level Advisory Committee (HAC) that Chehade now co-chairs - > appears harmless enough but contains what internet governance experts > will immediately recognize as troubling efforts to legitimize online censorship. >>>>> >>>>> The second point of five guiding principles is "Fostering cultural > diversity in the cyberspace." The fourth is "Ensuring peace and > security in cyberspace," and the last is "Improving the global Internet governance." >>>>> >>>>> The document >>>>> notes > the "importance of respect for nations' sovereignty in cyberspace" and > specifically fails to use the term "multi-stakeholder" in the context > of internet governance, instead opting for the loaded term "multilateral," > which is code for putting governments in overall control. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, please log into >>>>> the ISOC Member Portal: >>>>> https://portal.isoc.org/ Then choose >>>>> Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> TH Schee | M: +1-646-820-0002 | @scheeinfo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> - >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, please log into >>>>> the ISOC Member Portal: >>>>> https://portal.isoc.org/ >>>>> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, please log into >>>> the ISOC Member Portal: >>>> https://portal.isoc.org/ >>>> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. >>> >>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg at apnic.net >>> http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, please log into the >> ISOC Member Portal: >> https://portal.isoc.org/ >> Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. > > _______________________________________________ > To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, please log into the > ISOC Member Portal: > https://portal.isoc.org/ > Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From y.morenets at againstcybercrime.eu Fri Dec 25 11:49:13 2015 From: y.morenets at againstcybercrime.eu (Yuliya Morenets) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 17:49:13 +0100 Subject: [governance] Rough consensus & Ambiguous compromise in the WSIS+10 In-Reply-To: References: <35E0BAC9-E217-4882-B195-DD8723A1F0EE@diplomacy.edu> Message-ID: <9bc11c45c1bd21872727704dfe05c34b@againstcybercrime.eu> Dear Giacomo, Jovan, all, Many thanks for interesting reading and best wishes for the great holidays time, Yuliya Le 23.12.2015 03:39, Mazzone, Giacomo a écrit : > Thank you Jovan. > > A lot of wishes to all the members of the mailing list. > > Giacomo > > FROM: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] ON BEHALF OF Jovan Kurbalija > SENT: mardi 22 décembre 2015 19:10 > TO: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > CC: Jovan Kurbalija > SUBJECT: [governance] Rough consensus & Ambiguous compromise in the WSIS+10 > > Here are a few reflections from the WSIS+10 ..... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jovan-kurbalija/rounh-consensus-ambigious_b_8848952.html [1] > > Have a nice holidays! > > Jovan Links: ------ [1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jovan-kurbalija/rounh-consensus-ambigious_b_8848952.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Afonso Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br CGI.br - http://cgi.br GPG 0x9EE8F8E3 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From khaled.koubaa at gmail.com Mon Dec 28 10:35:30 2015 From: khaled.koubaa at gmail.com (Khaled Koubaa) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 16:35:30 +0100 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: References: <1439462292.669386.1450014138998.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Congratulations Ginger. And wishing happy holiday for all IG friends around the world. -- *Khaled Koubaa* Mobile +33 7 68 45 11 61 Twitter : @koubaak LinkedIn : http://lnked.in/kkoubaa 2015-12-21 14:44 GMT+01:00 Ginger Paque : > Gracias, Antonio. No olvidemos la importancia de la voz de America > Latina!!! > Saludos, Ginger > > Ginger (Virginia) Paque > DiploFoundation > > *DiploFoundation upcoming online courses:* > http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses > > On 13 December 2015 at 09:17, Antonio Medina Gómez > wrote: > >> Congratulations Ginger. >> Una gran noticia. >> Poderoso abrazo >> El 13/12/2015 10:15, "Jacqueline Morris" >> escribió: >> >>> Congratulations, Ginger! >>> On 13 Dec 2015 09:45, "Arsene TUNGALI (Yahoo)" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Congratulations are in order, Ginger. I know you will do well, you >>>> truly represent. We are here to support you in any capacity you may need! >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> A >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------- >>>> Arsene Tungali, >>>> +243 993810967 <+243%20993810967> >>>> @arsenebaguma >>>> Democratic Republic of Congo >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >>>> >>>> On Sunday, December 13, 2015, 3:03 PM, Ginger Paque >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks, De ... Thanks Remmy! >>>> Be sure to let us know what we can do for CS..... >>>> Best, >>>> Ginger >>>> >>>> Ginger (Virginia) Paque >>>> DiploFoundation >>>> >>>> *DiploFoundation upcoming online courses:* >>>> http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses >>>> * * >>>> >>>> >>>> On 13 December 2015 at 06:08, Remmy Nweke wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi DD >>>>> This is to acknowledge your mail and also support Virginia normation. >>>>> Congrats to Virginia. >>>>> Best of the day. >>>>> Remmy Nweke >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> From: Deirdre Williams >>>>> Sent: ‎13/‎12/‎2015 12:57 >>>>> To: Internet Governance >>>>> Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR >>>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> >>>>> Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG >>>>> Chair. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> Deirdre >>>>> >>>>> CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is >>>>> pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put >>>>> forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint >>>>> Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue >>>>> on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both >>>>> a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. >>>>> >>>>> Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the >>>>> representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked >>>>> to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of >>>>> civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society >>>>> members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing >>>>> involvement in our activities. >>>>> >>>>> We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, >>>>> and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society >>>>> appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two >>>>> Co-Chairs. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir >>>>> William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: >>>>> http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: >>>> http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From andersj at elon.edu Mon Dec 28 12:19:49 2015 From: andersj at elon.edu (Janna Anderson) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 17:19:49 +0000 Subject: [governance] Update on India and Facebook's Free Basics Message-ID: Facebook and ³Free Basics² initiative spotlighted in this TechCrunch story that includes updates about India and Facebook responses: http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/27/gatekeeper-or-stepping-stone/ Excerpt: "This week regulators in India, the largest nation in the program , required Facebook¹s local carrier partner Reliance to temporarily shut down Free Basics . That was despite Facebook thrusting a petition in front of its users requesting they click to send the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India an email to ³Save Free Basics In India ³. The TRAI will make a final decision on whether to allow Free Basics next month. "To drum up more support, yesterday the VP of Internet.org Chris Daniels did a Reddit Ask Me Anything where he denied that Facebook was becoming a gatekeeper to the Internet. And today Facebook ran a double full-page ad in The Sunday Times Of India asking readers to pledge support for its corporate-run version of free Internet, spotted by Jeff Reifman . The conclusion of this battle could impact the digital fates of over 1.2 billion Indian citizens, and set a precedent for how other nations regulate Free Basics." Janna Anderson -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From shailam at yahoo.com Mon Dec 28 14:01:00 2015 From: shailam at yahoo.com (shailam at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 11:01:00 -0800 Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR In-Reply-To: References: <1439462292.669386.1450014138998.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Ginger Congratulations and all the best. I know you will do an outstanding job. Shaila Rao Mistry Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 28, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Khaled Koubaa wrote: > > Congratulations Ginger. > And wishing happy holiday for all IG friends around the world. > > > -- > Khaled Koubaa > Mobile +33 7 68 45 11 61 > Twitter : @koubaak > LinkedIn : http://lnked.in/kkoubaa > > 2015-12-21 14:44 GMT+01:00 Ginger Paque : >> Gracias, Antonio. No olvidemos la importancia de la voz de America Latina!!! >> Saludos, Ginger >> >> Ginger (Virginia) Paque >> DiploFoundation >> DiploFoundation upcoming online courses: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses >> >> >>> On 13 December 2015 at 09:17, Antonio Medina Gómez wrote: >>> Congratulations Ginger. >>> Una gran noticia. >>> Poderoso abrazo >>> >>> El 13/12/2015 10:15, "Jacqueline Morris" escribió: >>>> Congratulations, Ginger! >>>> >>>> On 13 Dec 2015 09:45, "Arsene TUNGALI (Yahoo)" wrote: >>>>> Congratulations are in order, Ginger. I know you will do well, you truly represent. We are here to support you in any capacity you may need! >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> A >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------- >>>>> Arsene Tungali, >>>>> +243 993810967 >>>>> @arsenebaguma >>>>> Democratic Republic of Congo >>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, December 13, 2015, 3:03 PM, Ginger Paque wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, De ... Thanks Remmy! >>>>> Be sure to let us know what we can do for CS..... >>>>> Best, >>>>> Ginger >>>>> >>>>> Ginger (Virginia) Paque >>>>> DiploFoundation >>>>> DiploFoundation upcoming online courses: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 13 December 2015 at 06:08, Remmy Nweke wrote: >>>>>> Hi DD >>>>>> This is to acknowledge your mail and also support Virginia normation. Congrats to Virginia. >>>>>> Best of the day. >>>>>> Remmy Nweke >>>>>> From: Deirdre Williams >>>>>> Sent: ‎13/‎12/‎2015 12:57 >>>>>> To: Internet Governance >>>>>> Subject: [governance] CSCG CHAIR >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>> >>>>>> Copied below is the announcement of the new arrangements for the CSCG Chair. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best wishes >>>>>> >>>>>> Deirdre >>>>>> >>>>>> CSCG CHAIR ARRANGEMENTS >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is pleased to announce that, following consideration of a range of names put forward for the role of Independent Chair, it has agreed to appoint Virginia Paque. As well, and at Virginia’s request, Ian Peter will continue on in a parallel role as Co-Chair with her for 12 months, to allow for both a smooth transition and load sharing over the coming year. >>>>>> >>>>>> Virginia Paque has previous experience with CSCG, having been the representative of Diplo Foundation on CSCG until recently, when Diplo asked to withdraw because, despite its active involvement with and support of civil society, it could not be described as a coalition of civil society members. We look forward to Virginia’s renewed involvement and ongoing involvement in our activities. >>>>>> >>>>>> We wish to thank everyone who put names forward for their interest, and look forward to continuing to provide a conduit for civil society appointments to outside bodies in 2016 with the guidance of our two Co-Chairs. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >>>>>> >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>>> >>>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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