[governance] Re: [bestbits] PK's 2-pager on ITU and Plenipot

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Ah, a cybersecurity treaty.

A non proliferation treaty? When there is no shortage of non state actors 
dealing in malware, who have historically provided arms length and 
plausible deniablity for previous efforts in the interest of various nation 
states?

Or an enforcement treaty on the lines of the Budapest convention, which 
would not be entirely in scope for a civilian agency like ITU whose 
constituency is telecom ministries and regulatory authorities?  And to 
which in any case most if not all the very few nation states that are 
collectively the largest sources of online crime are not members?

What specific sort of treaty and how is it to be enforced? Some details 
would be great to back all those airy assertions about the pk paper





On 10 October 2014 6:24:35 pm parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:

> On Friday 10 October 2014 12:21 AM, Carolina Rossini wrote:
> > Available at:
> >
> > 
> https://www.publicknowledge.org/documents/international-telecommunication-union-itu-plenipotentiary-conference
> >
>
> Carolina,
>
> So what the Public Knowledge is basically saying is that the ITU should
> practically do nothing, more or less. I mean I saw nothing in this
> statement about what it should actually do  given that the
> plenipotentiary is the occasion on which the ITU revisits its complete
> work program. Well yes there is something about WTDC working groups but
> no clarity about what exactly they can and should do. For instance, the
> very formation of BestBits was informed by the need for a "positive
> agenda". Where is a positive agenda ever? After all, in a time of ICTs
> driven global social revolution/ transformation there must be something
> to do in the communication, ICTs and Internet space. What should ITU do
> about this new situation to make sure that things serve  global public
> interest, and if the ITU is to be doing little or nothing, who should be
> doing it.
>
> Not only in your submission but also elsewhere (it seems to be happening
> all together), I see a creeping assertion that multistakeholder
> "decision making" should extend beyond technical areas to substantive
> Internet-related public policy making areas of many different kinds.
> Please do let me know if I am wrong in this interpretation, which in
> fact comes quite clearly in your submission.
>
> You say ITU should not be exploring a treaty on cyber-security, which I
> would suppose people would agree is urgently needed in this period of
> extreme cyber insecurity... So, if ITU should not do the work towards
> such a treaty, who do you think should do it? The UN's first committee
> working on security issues, which has done some work on cyber-security?
> Or are you proposing a multistakeholder body should do such a treaty, in
> which case too please do put forward your proposal..
>
> These are serious issues of Internet governance today, and should be
> discussed thoroughly.... Just telling the ITU to open up all its
> documents but then really to do nothing really substantive does not
> appear to me to an adequate response to where the world stands vis a vis
> the Internet and its democratic governance.
>
> parminder
>
> PS: I cc ed two other elists bec this is an important matter deserving a
> good discussion .
>
>
> >
> >
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