[governance] PP: India wants to abolish BGP and introduce national routing and IP management

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Not strictly geographical either. RIPE covered a lot of North Africa 
historically



On October 31, 2014 11:55:12 PM Daniel Kalchev <daniel at digsys.bg> wrote:

> > On 30.10.2014 г., at 22:19, Barry Shein <bzs at world.std.com> wrote:
> >
> > 2.
> >
> > Change subject slightly, not a response to anything below:
> >
> > In reference to the comments about a "Westphalian" view of address
> > allocation:
> >
> > We do currently have a regional division of organizations for address
> > allocation, APNIC (Asia-Pacific), AfrNIC (Africa), LACNIC (Latin
> > Amer), ARIN (N. Amer.), and RIPE (Europe.)
> >
> > And these in turn are defined by the nation-states they serve.
>
> Some of us are old enough to know, and hopefully not old enough to still 
> remember...
>
> All these were built later, using the model of the very successful RIPE 
> NCC. The RIPE NCC was conceived, designed and built by a bunch of European 
> folk, who were then involved in building the informal pan European data 
> network, loosely based on internet protocols, that later grew up to become 
> today's internet (after being fast adopted by our friends across the pond).
>
> There was never, ever, any government or even nation-state element in how 
> it was all organized. In fact nation-state was at one time considered, by 
> experimenting with national last resort IP address registries, but was 
> ultimately abandoned because the community was not using it (I know first 
> hand, as I was running one of these myself).
>
> The RIPE NCC is also a very interesting example, as it has members from a 
> very broadly defined "European" region. It would have served much wider 
> audience (again, on strictly netizen based representation), if it was not 
> for international politics, that pushed for the creation of more strictly 
> regional groups.
>
> Anyway, most people will happily ignore history and draw conclusions from 
> whatever fits their (current) agenda. Again, human nature.
>
> I was today at a meeting with our government, and they insisted that 
> "multistakeholderism", "as they were told by ICANN" means, that governments 
> should have more role in managing the Internet. They also commented that 
> Bulgaria is the only country in Europe with a liberal regime where the 
> government does not control the Internet (their wording), and this should 
> be fixed.
> Notice a pattern?
>
> Daniel
>



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