From suresh at hserus.net Fri Oct 31 19:17:23 2014 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 04:47:23 +0530 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [IP] China to hold high-level world Internet conference - Xinhua | English.news.cn In-Reply-To: <20141031173442.139e7932@quill> References: <14965ce1120.2762.4f968dcf8ecd56c9cb8acab6370fcfe0@hserus.net> <0705D9A0-56EA-499A-9406-9C2754BD7349@gmail.com> <20141031173442.139e7932@quill> Message-ID: <149687fac30.2762.4f968dcf8ecd56c9cb8acab6370fcfe0@hserus.net> Well, a national baseball tournament does get called the world series, if only because it was first sponsored by the New York World newspaper On October 31, 2014 10:05:36 PM Norbert Bollow wrote: > On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 20:01:21 +0800 > Chantal Lebrument wrote: > > > But, regarding this China event it seems to be a... China event between > > ICANN and US operators and chinese regulators... > > So when the Chinese want to talk with US folks, they call that a > “world” conference. That's like the rest of the world isn't relevant to > them. Oh well, maybe that's simply the truth, and the rest of the world > simply isn't relevant to China as far as the Internet is concerned. > Something for all of us who are neither Chinese nor US-American to > ponder and maybe do something about. > > Greetings, > Norbert > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Fri Oct 31 19:19:54 2014 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 04:49:54 +0530 Subject: [governance] PP: India wants to abolish BGP and introduce national routing and IP management In-Reply-To: <3DDD7908-830B-4D53-9824-737F2DC07553@digsys.bg> References: <0b7c01cff167$f8195910$e84c0b30$@gmail.com>

<25F89C69-6FA6-429A-85DD-654D23773E78@virtualized.org> <21583.61688.286480.255502@world.std.com> <5450C671.4080302@digsys.bg> <21586.40289.268447.626242@world.std.com> <3DDD7908-830B-4D53-9824-737F2DC07553@digsys.bg> Message-ID: Hi, On Oct 31, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > There was never, ever, any government or even nation-state element in how it was all organized. Perhaps in the RIPE region. Other regions had different models, some of which did involve nation-state elements. > In fact nation-state was at one time considered, by experimenting with national last resort IP address registries, but was ultimately abandoned because the community was not using it In the Asia-Pacific region, Korean, Japanese, and Australian national NICs all existed prior to the existence of APNIC (and, in fact, were instrumental in helping APNIC get established). Government involvement in the AP region national NICs was typically informal and indirect at that time, but it did exist (government involvement has evolved over time). Within the Latin American and Caribbean region, I believe the Brazilian and Mexican NICs existed prior to the existence of LACNIC. > I was today at a meeting with our government, and they insisted that "multistakeholderism", "as they were told by ICANN" means, that governments should have more role in managing the Internet. I suspect (but am just guessing) that the intended message was that it would be useful if governments got more involved as a peer with other stakeholders in efforts related to Internet governance, i.e., governments are part of the multi-stakeholder model. However as you note, people will hear what they want to hear. > They also commented that Bulgaria is the only country in Europe with a liberal regime where the government does not control the Internet (their wording), and this should be fixed. It might be interesting to understand what they believe 'control the Internet' means. Regards, -drc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 496 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From drc at virtualized.org Fri Oct 31 21:41:46 2014 From: drc at virtualized.org (David Conrad) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:41:46 -0700 Subject: [governance] PP: India wants to abolish BGP and introduce national routing and IP management In-Reply-To: <1496881fdf0.2762.4f968dcf8ecd56c9cb8acab6370fcfe0@hserus.net> References: <0b7c01cff167$f8195910$e84c0b30$@gmail.com>

<25F89C69-6FA6-429A-85DD-654D23773E78@virtualized.org> <21583.61688.286480.255502@world.std.com> <5450C671.4080302@digsys.bg> <21586.40289.268447.626242@world.std.com> <3DDD7908-830B-4D53-9824-737F2DC07553@digsys.bg> <1496881fdf0.2762.4f968dcf8ecd56c9cb8acab6370fcfe0@hserus.net> Message-ID: <1B8AA796-B0E6-44E6-BFB8-B171765EC1B4@virtualized.org> On Oct 31, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Not strictly geographical either. RIPE covered a lot of North Africa historically RIPE covered a lot of places, in part due to former colonial ties of countries within the RIPE region. Before AfriNIC was established, ARIN provided services to sub-Saharan Africa and RIPE provided services to Northern Africa. Before LACNIC was established, ARIN provided services to Latin America and the Caribbean. And of course, before RIPE-NCC and APNIC were established, InterNIC (or its predecessors) provided services to the entire world. Not that this ancient history matters too much anymore. 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But things are better now and bad language on unauthorized and unique identifiers was taken out or made flexible. The consolidated version as of this morning attached. On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > Very helpful Ujwala. Parminder, where is the devices issue being > discussed? > > Thanks > > Anriette > > On 31/10/2014 07:33, Ujwala Uppaluri wrote: > > Dear All, > > CCG has a list of Internet related issues to watch at Plenipot here > > . > > Do let us know if there's anything significant missing. > > Best, > > Ujwala > > -- > Ujwala Uppaluri | Research Fellow > Centre for Communication Governance | National Law University, Delhi > | Sector-14, Dwarka, New Delhi - 110078 | Cell: (+91) 986-661-9037 | Fax: > (+91) 11-280-34256 | www.ccgdelhi.org . > www.nludelhi.ac.in | Twitter: @ccgdelhi > > > -- > ````````````````````````````````` > anriette esterhuysen > executive director > association for progressive communications > po box 29755, melville, 2109, south africaanriette at apc.orgwww.apc.org > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > -- -- *Carolina Rossini * *Vice President, International Policy* *Public Knowledge* *http://www.publicknowledge.org/ * + 1 6176979389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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While the nomination of one other candidate and the secondment of two of them were simultaneously posted to both Bestbits and IGC lists, we did not at IGC receive any further information from those. In any case, I believe all candidates will be examined based on the announced criteria, and the number of networks that endorse their candidacy is not directly one of them. Thanks anyway to those who have considered it relevant to seek IGC endorsement. Good luck, Mawaki On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > I wish to remind you that nominations will close by Sept 30, that is, next > Tuesday -- meaning the CSCG should be receiving all nominated candidates' > statement addressing the four selection criteria by that date. > Thank you, > > Mawaki > > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Following our notice and call for comments posted here on Sept 12 (below >> for your reference), here is the formal call for nominations for civil >> society representatives for the IGF Multistakeholder Advisory group (MAG). >> >> This nomination process in 2014 will be run across several civil society >> coalitions, including Best Bits, IGC, APC, Diplo, NCSG, and Just Net >> Coalition, who together comprise the Civil Society Coordination Group. You >> are welcome to nominate through any of the above individual coalitions. >> Nominations close on Tuesday, September 30, 2014. >> >> If you wish to nominate via IGC, or you have been nominated and wish to >> accept, please do so either on list or by email to kichango at gmail.com >> (by reply to this email or in a new email with 'MAG nomination' in the >> subject line.) >> >> Please include in your nomination the nominee's name, country of >> residence, country of nationality, and gender. Please also specifically >> address each of the selection criteria below, giving us examples and >> evidence of how the nominee meets each of the individual selection criteria. >> >> CRITERIA >> >> * Past record of active engagement as part of civil society groups working >> on internet governance issues, acting or speaking out assertively on >> behalf of public interest concerns. >> >> >> * Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS >> networks >> (including beyond those focused on internet governance where appropriate) >> on >> MAG discussions. >> >> * Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level. >> >> * Willing, available and able to participate effectively and >> constructively >> in the MAG deliberations. >> >> >> >> Existing MAG members seeking CSCG endorsement should also follow this >> process. >> >> Nominations must close on Tuesday, September 30. The list of candidates >> endorsed by CSCG will be published no later than October 16. >> >> More about the IGF and the MAG can be obtained from www.intgovforum.org >> Best regards, >> Mawaki >> IGC Co-coordinator >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Mawaki Chango >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Folks, this is a lengthy message requesting your feedback as regards >>> Internet Governance Forum Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) nominations >>> and the role that the Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group >>> (CSCG) might play. >>> >>> The history that led to this has been that, in the past various, civil >>> society groups have nominated separately, with the result being that the >>> Secretariat made its own decisions, including in some cases people with no >>> active involvement with the civil society groups. Last year for the first >>> time we were able to achieve a degree of cross-endorsements between our >>> groups, but this was still confusing to the IGF Secretariat. To remedy >>> this, we are looking this year for the first time to have a more >>> comprehensive civil-society endorsement process for candidates. >>> >>> In this respect, we expect to issue a call for candidates next Thursday >>> (September 18). In the meantime, as we finalise this approach, your >>> comments are sought on the following. >>> >>> >>> >>> TIMETABLE >>> >>> >>> >>> The draft timetable is as follows. Bear in mind that each coalition >>> member will be calling for its own nominations which will be collated with >>> others at a later stage >>> >>> Thurs, Sep 18 - release call for nominations and final selection criteria >>> >>> >>> >>> Tues, September 30 - close of nominations >>> >>> >>> >>> October 1-3 - collation of nominations and shortlisting from various >>> coalitions >>> >>> >>> >>> October 4- 14 - completion of selections and publication of names to >>> lists >>> >>> >>> >>> October 16 - forwarding names to IGF Secretariat. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Your comments on this are welcome. >>> >>> PROCEDURES >>> >>> The draft procedures follow. These are still being refined within CSCG, >>> but your input is welcome. >>> >>> >>> >>> The role of CSCG is to ensure a co-ordinated civil society response and >>> conduit when it comes to making civil society appointments to outside >>> bodies. >>> >>> >>> >>> The following is the procedure which CSCG follows when a request for >>> civil society appointments is received. >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. CSCG may be involved in nominations when requested to do so by >>> either one >>> of its members or by an outside organisation requesting CS involvement. >>> When >>> such a request is received, CSCG will clarify what has been requested >>> and, in >>> a case where CS already has representation, consult with existing >>> representatives in clarifying the involvement required. >>> >>> 2. CSCG will not be involved in any appointments of CS >>> representatives if more than 35% of its coalition members determine not to >>> be involved in the process, or where the number with a clear determination >>> to be involved does not exceed those expressing a wish not to be involved. >>> (Others may have a neutral or undecided stance) Where coalition members >>> choose not to be involved and a decision to proceed is made, their decision >>> to do so will be announced (if they so wish) as part of any announcement of >>> chosen representatives. The decision to be involved or not is the >>> primary responsibility of each constituency. >>> >>> 3. Any CSCG member who wishes to be eligible for selection as >>> part of any process must announce that intention before a call for >>> candidates is announced, and may nominate another representative of their >>> coalition to take their place on the Nomcom. >>> >>> 4. CSCG as a whole will determine selection criteria for any >>> appointments and announce them as part of a call for candidates. >>> >>> 5. CSCG will determine and manage a timetable for the process. >>> >>> 6. A separate CSCG mailing list will be established for each >>> nomination process. >>> >>> 7. Unless otherwise determined by CSCG members, each coalition >>> will issue its own call for candidates, and forward appropriate names to >>> CSCG at the nominated close of nominations. Coalitions are at liberty to >>> shortlist their own candidates and only submit appropriate names, or to >>> forward all names received >>> >>> 8. Where time permits and as appropriate, candidates may be asked >>> to address selection criteria in their nominations. >>> >>> 9. The CSCG Nomcom will consist of all voting members and the non >>> voting chair, with the exception of representatives of coalitions who >>> choose not to participate in a particular process. >>> >>> 10. The Nomcom in making its decisions should determine appropriate >>> procedures to arrive at a final decision. But unless circumstances suggest >>> otherwise, it is suggested that selection should begin with a shortlisting >>> process, which will assist in identifying most favoured candidates and >>> which candidates should be examined more closely. Following from >>> shortlisting, which is a guide only and not an indication of which >>> candidates should be selected, Nomcom members will arrive at the final >>> candidates list, using on line exchanges and if necessary conference >>> linkups to determine the final slates. >>> >>> 11. All members of the Nomcom are required to consider the interests >>> of civil society as a whole, and not just their own coalition, in >>> determining appropriate representatives >>> >>> 12. All Nomcoms will take into account geographic and gender balance >>> in determining their final selections, while considering also the need >>> for the breadth of viewpoints/worldviews represented within civil society >>> to be represented. While realising that complete balance will not be >>> able to be achieved in every individual instance. CSCG members are >>> requested to take into account any such deficits in balances in previous >>> CSCG decisions in making selections, with an objective of achieving balance >>> over a period of time which may not be achievable in every particular case. >>> >>> 13. The records of each Nomcom will be destroyed six months after the >>> process is completed. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> SELECTION CRITERIA >>> >>> The following are suggested selection criteria for MAG for your comments >>> (see also comments above re achieving balance across the slate of >>> candidates) >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. Past record of active engagement as part of civil society >>> groups working on internet governance issues >>> >>> 2. Consultative style >>> >>> 3. Previous attendee at IGF >>> >>> 4. Able to work constructively with other stakeholder groups >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> A period for comments and suggestions is now open. A call for candidates >>> will be issued on Thursday, September 18. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ian Peter >>> >>> (Independent Chair, CSCG) >>> >>> >>> >>> CSCG members are: >>> >>> Association for Progressive Communications, represented by Chat Garcia >>> Ramilo, Deputy Executive Director >>> >>> Best Bits, represented by Jeremy Malcolm, Steering Committee member >>> >>> Civicus, represented by Mandeep Tiwana, Head of Policy and Research >>> >>> Diplo Foundation, represented by Ginger (Virginia) Paque, Internet >>> Governance Programmes >>> >>> Just Net Coalition, represented by Norbert Bollow, Co-convenor >>> >>> Internet Governance Caucus, represented by Dr Mawaki Chango, >>> Co-Coordinator >>> >>> The Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group, (NCSG) represented by Robin >>> Gross, NCSG Executive Committee >>> >>> >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jefsey at jefsey.com Wed Oct 1 08:42:59 2014 From: jefsey at jefsey.com (Jefsey) Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 14:42:59 +0200 Subject: [governance] Internet - whether to regulate it or not In-Reply-To: References: <5427ABEE.3050006@itforchange.net> Message-ID: Dear Milton, No one can answer your question because it is based on a false premise. This premise is the US BUG. If you pose as a premise that you can "Be Unilaterally Global", and managed to make the world believe your way of using the technology is the single possible one, you certainly have an influence if your propositions looks acceptable (capable is another issue :-)). However, this influence is obtained by the rule of necessity. And as I said elsewhere necessity is mother of invention. In our digital network area, the US industry has succeeded in making the world's people believe that its root centered networking was a necessity. It is now up to us, the people, the Libre engineers, the IUsers to make obvious to everyone that digitality, by its very essence, is not centered and they are free to chose the laws they voted rather than the laws lobbied by the US corporations. I know, it will take time. And bigTrans National Corporations will resist. However, a few steps a head have already occured since IEN 48 was frozen by the status-quo strategy. The architectural vision has been better defined; software programming has matured; new datacommunications technologies are emerging; RFC 6852 is uncomplete but has been signed; the world in Dubai has voted "no". Snowden was used to trigger Montevideo, Sao Paulo and Geneva. Next date is Sept 30, 2015. One year to go. One year for the Libre MYCANN-plug-in to be explored, discussed, developped, tested and deployed. Tight schedule, for a few people ... http://mycann.org. You are welcome to join on http://0net.org. One year to go .... until Oct. 1st, 2015. ICANN or not ICANN will then be the question. jfc At 22:50 30/09/2014, Milton L Mueller wrote: >Content-Language: en-US >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="_000_b3d1154ec4094871a651da67b8305203EX13MBX13adsyredu_" > > >Now, why, when the UN can adopt a Model law of e-commerce, can we >not discuss and possibly adopt a Model Law on IP based >telecommunication and net neutrality. Can anyone answer this simple >and obvious question for me? Please, I am serious. > >No one can answer this question because it is based on a false >premise. But you provided your own answer anyway: > > >Because US tell us so. And so many of us are happy to take our > > cues from the US, and its political and corporate allies. (Has it > > anything to do with from where the money flows?) > >It is based on a false premise because: > >Here in the US of A, we are talking about nothing else but a new law >and/or regulation on net neutrality, it got 5 million public >comments. And the same federal regulatory agency, known as the FCC, >has been running a proceeding on the telephony-to-IP transition >since January >https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-14-5A1.pdf > > >The dialogue you say doesnât exist is transnational. I was under >the impression that there were half a dozen workshops on net >neutrality at this yearâs IGF. I believe that the topic was >debated extensively, if inconclusively, at Netmundial. The European >Commission has also been discussing and acting on it. > >The word ânet neutralityâ is an American term and the current >Presidential administration is on record as supporting it. You >probably learned the words âIP transitionâ from America, too. So >explain to me again how the evil empire is preventing everyone from >talking about such laws or regulations?? I am serious, or at least >as serious as one can be when dealing with outlandish accusations. > >Is the basis of your political appeal now a shopworn >anti-Americanism, rather than a policy agenda that actually makes >things better? > >Keep in mind that âmodel lawsâ developed by the UN are >significant only insofar as they are adopted by national >governments. Which means, they have limited relevance when it comes >to global Internet governance issues. > >As a thought experiment, ask yourself which has had more influence >and importance to the future of the Internet: the UNCITRAL model e >commerce law? >http://www.uncitral.org/uncitral/en/uncitral_texts/electronic_commerce/1996Model.html > >Or the Clinton administrationâs Framework for Global Electronic >Commerce, which provided the rationale for ICANN? >http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/New/Commerce/ > > >If the latter proved more influential, is it because the evil empire >stopped everyone from talking about the topic and used Jedi mind >tricks to force it down our throats? Or was it because a globalized >approach proved to be more practical and suitable to the growth of >the internet than a fragmented, nation-based approach? > >If the neoliberal telecom competition and deregulation policies won >out in the 1980s and 1990s, was it because of US power, or was it >because the policies were fantastically successful at stimulating >the growth and penetration of the Internet and information and >telecom services and equipment, more so than the 70 years of >national monopoly that preceded it, and thus were imitated by >country after country? > >These might be more âseriousâ and productive questions for >people on this list to answer > >Milton L Mueller >Laura J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor >Syracuse University School of Information Studies >http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/ >Internet Governance Project >http://internetgovernance.org > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Content-Disposition: inline; filename="message-footer.txt" > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This opens new research opportunities for business process data analysis, mining and modeling. The aim of the IFIP 2.6 - 2.12 International Symposium on Data-Driven Process Discovery and Analysis is to offer a forum where researchers from different communities and the industry can share their insight in this hot new field. The Symposium will feature a number of keynotes illustrating advanced approaches, shorter presentations on recent research, a competitive PhD seminar and selected research and industrial demonstrations. This year the symposium will be held in Milan, the city of Expo 2015. # Call for Papers # The IFIP International Symposium on Data-Driven Process Discovery and Analysis (SIMPDA 2013) offers a unique opportunity to present new approaches and research results to researchers and practitioners working in business process data modeling, representation and privacy-aware analysis. The symposium will bring together leading researchers, engineers and scientists from around the world. Full papers must not exceed 15 pages. Short papers are limited to at most 4 pages. All papers must be original contributions, not previously published or under review for publication elsewhere. All contributions must be written in English and must follow the LNCS Springer Verlag format. Templates can be downloaded from: http://www.springer.de/comp/lncs/authors.html Accepted papers will be published in a pre-proceeding volume with an ISBN. The authors of the accepted papers will be invited to submit extended articles to a post-symposium proceedings volume which will be published in the LNBIP series (Lecture Notes in Business Information Processing, http://www.springer.com/series/7911), scheduled for early 2014 (extended papers length will be between 7000 and 9000 words). Around 10-15 papers will be selected for publication after a second round of review. -- Topics -- Topics of interest for submission include, but are not limited to: - Business Process modeling languages, notations and methods - Data-aware and data-centric approaches - Variability and configuration of process models - Process Mining with Big Data - Process simulation and static analyses - Process data query languages - Process data mining - Privacy-aware process data mining - Process metadata and semantic reasoning - Process patterns and standards - Foundations of business process models - Resource management in business process execution - Process tracing and monitoring - Process change management and evolution - Business process lifecycle - Case studies and experience reports - Social process discovery - Crowdsourced process definition and discovery -- Workshop Format -- In accordance to our historical tradition of proposing SIMPDA as a symposium, we propose an innovative format for this workshop: The number of sessions depend on the number of submissions but, considering the previous editions, we envisage to have four sessions, with 4-5 related papers assigned to each session. A special session (with a specific review process) will be dedicated to discuss research plan from PhD students. Papers are pre-circulated to the authors that will be expected to read all papers in advance but to avoid exceptional overhead, two are assigned to be prepared with particular care, making ready comments and suggestions. The bulk of the time during each session will be dedicated to open conversations about all of the papers in a given session, along with any linkages to the papers and discussions within an earlier session. The closing session (30 minutes), will include a panel about open challenges during which every participant will be asked to assemble their thoughts/project/ideas/goals/etc that they got out of the workshop. # Call for PhD Research Plans # The SIMPDA PhD Seminar is a workshop for Ph.D. students from all over the world. The goal of the Seminar is to help students with their thesis and research plans by providing feedback and general advice on how to use their research results. Students interested in participating in the Seminar should submit an extended abstract describing their research. Submissions can relate to any aspect of Process Data: technical advances, usage and impact studies, policy analyses, social and institutional implications, theoretical contributions, interaction and design advances, innovative applications, and social implications. Research plans should be at most of 4 page long and should be organized following the following structure: Abstract: summarizes, in 5 line, the research aims and significance. Research Question: defines what will be accomplished by eliciting the relevant the research questions. Background: defines the background knowledge providing the 5 most relevant references (papers or books). Significance: explains the relevance of the general topic and of the specific contribution. Research design and methods: describes and motivates the method adopted focusing on: assumptions, solutions, data sources, validation of results, limitations of the approach. Research stage: describes what the student has done so far. - SIMPDA PhD award - A doctoral award will be given by the SIMPDA PhD Jury to the best research plan submitted. # Student Scholarships # An application for a limited number of scholarships aimed at students coming from emerging countries has been submitted to IFIP. In order to apply, please contact paolo.ceravolo at unimi.it # Keynote Speakers # Jorge Cardoso University of Coimbra, Portugal - Compliance of Business Processes with Reference Models - Reference models provide best practices to design effective and efficient business processes. However, a main challenge is to evaluate how these best practices are implemented. One limitation of existing approaches is the assumption that compliance can be determined using the notion of process equivalence. Nonetheless, the use of equivalence algorithms is not suitable since two models can have different structures but one process can still be compliant with the other. This talk presents an approach to measure the compliance of process models with reference models, which was used by a German passenger airline using IT Infrastructure Library (ITIL) reference models. The talk also covers various initiatives to evaluate the quality and understandability of process models. # Industrial Talks # Claudia Sebastiani Creativi Quadrati, Partner openERP - Business Process Measurement in small enterprises after the installation of an ERP software - We report the observation of the first six months of operation after the installation of an ERP software in a group of small Italian enterprises (some dealers of various products and one manufacturer). Before the ERP, no explicit process descriptions existed within the companies: the operations were manually performed, using office automation software or legacy programs that were not process oriented. The new ERP is equipped with a workflow engine, a number of standard processes that should be followed by the users, and a tracking system that logs the main steps of the processes. We use process mining tools to analyze the events logged by the ERP during the sales, the purchases and the manufacture cycles. Our aim is to 1) compare the ideal processes suggested by the ERP with the real paths followed by the users 2) describe the eventual adaptation of these paths, as the users became acquainted with the ERP 3) highlight critical segments in terms of time spent, iterations, etc. 4) compare the processes of different companies that are in similar business areas. The final goal is to get a better understanding of the processes and a rationalization of the operations. It must be stressed that both the ERP and the main tools used are open source, so that the process measurement is affordable even for very small (micro) enterprises. Gregorio Piccoli Zucchetti - Hierarchical clustering for managers - Data Mining and Process Mining over big amount of data are today more and more requested by companies. However managers do not have the necessary competences for handling the results of analysis ran using these techniques. For this reason data visualization is a key element to exploit the full potential of data analysis. Zucchetti spa has developed an in-house approach for constructing user-friendly data visualizers. Gabriele Ruffatti Engineering Ingegneria Informatica - A living story: measuring quality of developments in a large industrial software factory with Open Source Software - Open Source has no more intrinsic value per se. Nowadays it is facing new challenges, such as stimulating creativity and bringing innovation into market. One of its major challenges consists in delivering valuable outcomes, which requires a PMAI approach: Plan metrics and dimensions of analysis, get Measures and global performance value from data, Assess results and Improve processes by solving issues and removing bottlenecks. Engineering Group uses Open Source Software to makes this happen. Spago4Q, the analytic of the business intelligence suite SpagoBI, allows the company to measure the quality of products, processes and services and to monitor the continuous improvement of quality practices. The measurement and enhancement of productivity complies with quality certifications such as ISO and CMMi standards. QESTnd - an n-dimensional measurement model - allows to collect performance values on three dimensions of analysis (Economical, Social and Technical) in order to identify process areas that need improvements. Drill-down capabilities provide both a unified view of the global performance of the Labs and detailed views of the single process dimensions. # Organizers # CHAIRS - Rafael Accorsi, University of Freiburg, Germany - Paolo Ceravolo, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy - Barbara Russo, Free University of Bozen - Bolzano, Italy ADVISORY BOARD - Karl Aberer, EPFL, Switzerland - Ernesto Damiani, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy - Tharam Dillon, La Trobe University, Australia - Dragan Gasevic, Athabasca University, Canada - Erich Neuhold, University of Vienna, Austria - Maurice van Keulen, University of Twente, The Netherlands - Philippe Cudre-Mauroux , University of Fribourg, Switzerland # Program Committee # - Irene Vanderfeesten, Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands - Maurice van Keulen, University of Twente, The Netherlands - Manfred Reichert, University of Ulm, Germany - Schahram Dustdar, Vienna University of Technology, Austria - Mohamed Mosbah, University of Bordeaux, France - Meiko Jensen, Ruhr-University Bochum, Germany - Helen Balinsky, Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, UK - Valentina Emilia Balas, University of Arad, Romania - Karima Boudaoud, Ecole Polytechnique de Nice Sophia Antipolis, France - George Spanoudakis, City University London, UK - Richard Chbeir, University of Bourgogne, France - Gregorio Martinez Perez, University of Murcia, Spain - Ebrahim Bagheri, Ryerson University, Canada - Jan Mendling, Vienna University of Economics and Business, Austria - Farookh Hussain, University of Technology Sydney, Australia - Marcello Leida, EBTIC (Etisalat BT Innovation Centre), UAE - Wil Van der Aalst, Technische Universiteit Eindhoven, The Netherlands - Ronald Maier, University of Innsbruck, Austria - Chintan Amrit, University of Twente, The Netherlands - Marco Montali, Free Unviersity of Bozen - Bolzano, Italy - Elizabeth Chang, University New South Wales, Australia - Peter Spyns, Flemish Government, Belgium - Angelo Corallo, University of Salento, Italy - Antonio Mana Gomez, University of MÃ¡laga, Spain - Mustafa Jarrar, Birzeit University, Palestinian Territory - Isabella Seeber, University of Innsbruck, Austria - Chi Hung, Tsinghua University, China - Alessandra Toninelli, Engineering Group, Italy - Haris Mouratidis, University of Brighton, UK - Abder Koukam, University of Technology, UTBM France - Fabrizio Maria Maggi, University of Tartu, Estonia - Massimiliano De Leoni, Eindhoven TU, Netherlands - Edgar Weippl, TU Vienna, Austria - Pnina Soffer, University of Haifa, Israel - Jianmin Wang, Tsinghua University Beijing, China - Minseok Song, UNIST, South Korea - Roland Rieke, Fraunhofer SIT, Germany - Josep Carmona, UPC - Barcelona, Spain - Mark Strembeck, WU Vienna, Austria - Matthias Weidlich, Imperial College, UK - Mohamed Mosbah, University of Bordeaux - Maria Leitner, University of Vienna, Austria - Benoit Depaire, University of Hasselt, Belgium - Barbara Weber, University of Innsbruck, Austria - Babiga Birregah, University of Technology of Troyes, France # Historical Information on Previous Editions # SIMPDA was proposed in 2011 and 2012 by IFIP WG 2.6 and 2.12/12.4 as the International Symposium on Data-Driven Process Discovery and Analysis. The symposium had around 30 attendees in 2011 and 20 in 2012. It featured a number of keynotes illustrating new approaches, shorter presentations on recent research, and a competitive PhD seminar, together with selected research and industrial demonstrations. The authors of the accepted papers have been invited to submit extended articles to a post-symposium proceedings volume published in the Springer LNBIP series. Several events and activities arose off these symposia, among the most notables we have two Dagstuhl seminars: - Dagstuhl Seminar on Semantic Challenges in Sensor Networks, January 24-29, 2010. - Dagstuhl Seminar on Unleashing Operational Process Mining, November 24-29, 2010. The venue was for both editions Campione d'Italia, the Italian enclave surrounded by Swiss territory, on the shores of Lake Lugano. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From Guru at ITforChange.net Fri Oct 3 05:29:16 2014 From: Guru at ITforChange.net (Guru) Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 14:59:16 +0530 Subject: [governance] more power to Amazon In-Reply-To: <542E6BF3.3030802@ITforChange.net> References: <542E6BF3.3030802@ITforChange.net> Message-ID: <542E6C6C.10609@ITforChange.net> Even Amazon’s detractors readily admit that it is one of the most powerful tools for selling books since the Gutenberg press. But how that power is used is increasingly being questioned in a way it was not during the company’s rise. Take, for instance, the different treatment Amazon has given two new Hachette books on political themes. “Sons of Wichita” by Daniel Schulman, a writer for Mother Jones magazine, came out in May. Amazon initially discounted the book, a well-received biography of the conservative Koch brothers, by 10 per cent, according to a price-tracking service. Now it does not discount it at all. It takes as long as three weeks to ship. “The Way Forward: Renewing the American Idea” by Representative Paul Ryan has no such constraints, an unusual position these days for a new Hachette book. Amazon refused to take advance orders for “The Way Forward,” as it does with all new Hachette titles. But once the book was on sale, it was consistently discounted by about 25 per cent. There is no shipping delay. Not surprisingly, it has a much higher sales ranking on Amazon than “Sons of Wichita.” read the article on http://www.deccanherald.com/content/433941/literary-lions-unite-against-amazon.html regards Guru -- Gurumurthy Kasinathan Director, IT for Change In Special Consultative Status with the United Nations ECOSOC www.ITforChange.Net| Cell:91 9845437730 | Tel:91 80 26654134, 26536890 http://karnatakaeducation.org.in/KOER/en/index.php/Subject_Teacher_Forum -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Sat Oct 4 10:34:42 2014 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2014 20:04:42 +0530 Subject: [governance] Internet - whether to regulate it or not In-Reply-To: References: <5427ABEE.3050006@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <54300582.4030002@itforchange.net> On Wednesday 01 October 2014 02:20 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > > Now, why, when the UN can adopt a Model law of e-commerce, can we not > discuss and possibly adopt a Model Law on IP based telecommunication > and net neutrality. Can anyone answer this simple and obvious question > for me? Please, I am serious. > > No one can answer this question because it is based on a false > premise. But you provided your own answer anyway: > > >Because US tell us so. And so many of us are happy to take our > > > cues from the US, and its political and corporate allies. (Has it > > > anything to do with from where the money flows?) > > It is based on a false premise because: > > Here in the US of A, we are talking about nothing else but a new law > and/or regulation on net neutrality, it got 5 million public comments. > And the same federal regulatory agency, known as the FCC, has been > running a proceeding on the telephony-to-IP transition since January > https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-14-5A1.pdf > Milton, Throughout this email, you seamlessly move between UN based international law making and US law making, which may get forced on the world bec of the US's economic and technical might, as if there isnt any real substantive difference between the two... I would have been very surprised by this if I did not know that you know exactly what you are doing - which makes it simply very disappointing. Please, US cannot be doing global governance, and to the extent it does it has to be simply lamented and resisted. This is true of any country (in fact, any actor) who exercises such the greatest and the most concentrated illegitimate power, and it just happens to be the US at the present with regard to the 'global Internet'. (If you contest this fact, I am ready to discuss it.) In the circumstance, when I ask for global model laws in these other areas on the lines of the 1997 UN model law on e-com, your pointing to some law making exercises happening in the US bespeaks an US centric arrogance which is what I consider as very disappointing. I know you are a careful person, and you are doing this because, unfortunately, these global IG civil society forums allow you space to speak things which one cannot speak at almost any other civil society space, I mean, in any other area of CS work. In fact even with such views you are nominated to speak on the behalf of civil society at the IGF... Therefore, ones regrets are larger than just about what you say. > The dialogue you say doesn’t exist is transnational. I was under the > impression that there were half a dozen workshops on net neutrality at > this year’s IGF. I believe that the topic was debated extensively, if > inconclusively, at Netmundial. The European Commission has also been > discussing and acting on it. > When did I say there is no global discussion on net neutrality ? ... As for the resistance to it and the resources thrown in for that sake I have historical details of how an NN debate and position forming got resisted on the IGC list as well in the MAG, for years, before it was finally taken up this year, and then what went into how the debate got shaped for the main session of the IGF and so on... Yes, I know the European Commission as well as Council of Europe has been working on it, and I have participated especially in the latter's effort. > The word “net neutrality” is an American term > Oh, I keep forgetting that. We all must remain eternally grateful for such mercies. What would we be without the US. > and the current Presidential administration is on record as supporting > it. You probably learned the words “IP transition” from America, too. > Well, yes. How much ever may I like to, we are just not able to come off the colonial and post colonial yoke. Dont we still take everything of worth from the west? Perhaps you would next note that we are actually conversing in English that UK gave to the world.. > > So explain to me again how the evil empire is preventing everyone from > talking about such laws or regulations?? > Apart from US and its corporate allies being the chief instigators for filtering the debates at the IGF, that is not what I am talking about when I mention actual norms and larger policy making, even if just as model laws. You will agree that this cannot happen at the IGF, right. And of course US is the main party opposed to the UN taking up any norms or policy development work with regard to Internet related policies. Do you contest this statement. > I am serious, or at least as serious as one can be when dealing with > outlandish accusations. > > Is the basis of your political appeal now a shopworn anti-Americanism, > rather than a policy agenda that actually makes things better? > The US rules the global Internet, politically and economically . Any civil society actor whose chief aim is a better distribution of power (that at least is what civil society used to be) would naturally make the US as its chief target. But obvious. It is those who continually support the US's political and economic power on the Internet who must explain themselves. > > Keep in mind that “model laws” developed by the UN are significant > only insofar as they are adopted by national governments. > Yes . > > Which means, they have limited relevance when it comes to global > Internet governance issues. > Yes, indeed global governance needs more than model laws. That is just one part of what UN can do - I mean develop model laws as it did for e-com, but global Internet policies have to also be made by democratic global gov bodies. Meanwhile, there does exist a connection between the two. Harmonized national laws go a long way in effective global governance of the Internet. If you see the proposed function of the CIRP proposed by India in 2011, one of the key functions indeed is to harmonise national laws in this area, to the extent possible. If you have not heard of what harmonising national laws mean, just ask your government about trade and IP areas and what its consistent global efforts are in this regard. > As a thought experiment, ask yourself which has had more influence and > importance to the future of the Internet: the UNCITRAL model e > commerce law? > http://www.uncitral.org/uncitral/en/uncitral_texts/electronic_commerce/1996Model.html > The India's IT Act, which is the default Internet law in India at present, mentions the UNCITRAL model e-com in its preamble, and presumably takes a lot from it. > Or the Clinton administration’s Framework for Global Electronic > Commerce, which provided the rationale for ICANN? > http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/New/Commerce/ > Yes, this one certainly had a much greater impact on the global Internet. But this is an illegitimate impact. I dont know why cant you distinguish between legitimate political/ legal / policy impact and illegitimate ones. You seem to be proposing that the power behind a law/ policy is the main consideration, and not its legitimacy. To take the colonial example again, the world still is suffering the years of bad work that colonial masters did, including having drawn arbitrary geo political boundaries (west asia being one key example). The still current and powerful impact of those acts do not make them legitimate in the first place, same for the Clinton Administration's Framework for Global Electronic Commerce. > If the latter proved more influential, is it because the evil empire > stopped everyone from talking about the topic and used Jedi mind > tricks to force it down our throats? Or was it because a globalized > approach proved to be more practical and suitable to the growth of the > internet than a fragmented, nation-based approach? > Yes, a political philosophy and policy framework was simply forced down everyone's throat along with a technology that was indeed very alluring and useful. That is exactly what happened, as I did say in a recent email to Barry on the IGC list. > If the neoliberal telecom competition and deregulation policies won > out in the 1980s and 1990s, was it because of US power, or was it > because the policies were fantastically successful at stimulating the > growth and penetration of the Internet and information and telecom > services and equipment, more so than the 70 years of national monopoly > that preceded it, and thus were imitated by country after country? > They were successful because the state owned telco infrastructure model was outdated. It was rightly replaced. But this is not the only lesson from history we have. We know the role of regulations in making telephony mainstream in the US, and then is triggering the software revolution... I am sure you need not be re taught that bit of history. In the same manner we know the positive role of global policy frameworks and regulation in many areas. Therefore, there have to be free market forces, and there have to be regulations. The problem is that the US, and you, seem to only want the former and not the latter. Unbounded markets without regulation (other than US enforced one over the whole world). That is a recipe for disaster. parminder > > These might be more “serious” and productive questions for people on > this list to answer > > Milton L Mueller > > Laura J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor > > Syracuse University School of Information Studies > > http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/ > > Internet Governance Project > > http://internetgovernance.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Sun Oct 5 14:23:51 2014 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 18:23:51 +0000 Subject: [governance] Internet - whether to regulate it or not In-Reply-To: <54300582.4030002@itforchange.net> References: <5427ABEE.3050006@itforchange.net> <54300582.4030002@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <5cc07bf192ce484fb6fcec8d03508871@EX13-MBX-13.ad.syr.edu> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of parminder Throughout this email, you seamlessly move between UN based international law making and US law making, which may get forced on the world bec of the US's economic and technical might, as if there isnt any real substantive difference between the two... MM: Nope. I make it very clear when I am talking about one or the other. Your point was “the U.S.” was preventing us from talking about certain issues. My contention was simply that the U.S. is talking about those things extensively at its own domestic level, and that indeed, many of those dialogues originated in the U.S. and went transnational. No confusion as to levels. When did I say there is no global discussion on net neutrality ? MM: In your original post. Glad to see you backing off here. ... As for the resistance to it and the resources thrown in for that sake I have historical details of how an NN debate and position forming got resisted on the IGC list as well in the MAG, for years, before it was finally taken up this year, MM: Another factual error. See this, a NN workshop from 2011: http://intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article?id=883:ig4d-workshop-183-a-possible-framework-for-global-net-neutrality Yes, I know the European Commission as well as Council of Europe has been working on it, and I have participated especially in the latter's effort. MM: So apparently the “US” effort to prevent discussion has failed there, too. Well, yes. How much ever may I like to, we are just not able to come off the colonial and post colonial yoke. Dont we still take everything of worth from the west? MM: A typical Parminderism. Someone notes the irony of you claiming the “the U.S.” is stopping us from discussing an issue that is being actively discussed in large part because of US domestic politics, and you transmute that into a claim that everything of worth originates from the West. Apart from US and its corporate allies being the chief instigators for filtering the debates at the IGF, MM: The chief instigators of filtering debates at the IGF are those who don’t want to disturb the IG status quo, as you know well. But that camp includes people in Europe, Latin America, Africa, Asia as well as “the U.S.” I’ve run up against those filters as much as you have, btw, only about 5 years before you. Ask yourself why I wasn’t asked to be on the IANA transition panel at either Netmundial or IGF, for example. But I am from the US. Why didn’t they welcome a fellow imperialist hegemonic white male? How do you explain this, my friend? Maybe there are substantive policy differences at stake that cannot be reduced to 1970s-vintage state-centric worldviews? Maybe “the US” is the wrong label to be using to characterize your enemies? Your whole mentality is still locked into the nation-state mindset. The US rules the global Internet, politically and economically . Any civil society actor whose chief aim is a better distribution of power (that at least is what civil society used to be) would naturally make the US as its chief target. MM: But redistributing power to whom, and for what purpose? First, it is obvious that you are talking exclusively about a redistribution of power among nation-states – an approach that is intrinsically hostile to civil society. Further, I don’t think a redistribution that, say, strengthens the Russian or Chinese states is anything to get excited about – or haven’t you kept your eyes on what is happening in Hong Kong? Perhaps you will follow Putin and Xi and blame all the HK unrest of “the U.S.”? All part of our attempt to maintain global hegemony. So let’s suppress freedom and democracy in Hong Kong so we have a better distribution of power? I don’t think strengthening the Indian or Turkish or South African states is such a great idea, either. All of them seem to be more interested in Internet control than anything else. Again I ask you to frame your debate and discourse in terms of substantive policy choices and not polarized power blocs centered on nation-states. Your mode of discourse is essentially a Cold War mentality, where our political choices are centered on being for or against the US. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lmcknigh at syr.edu Sun Oct 5 16:00:42 2014 From: lmcknigh at syr.edu (Lee W McKnight) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 20:00:42 +0000 Subject: [governance] Internet - whether to regulate it or not In-Reply-To: <5cc07bf192ce484fb6fcec8d03508871@EX13-MBX-13.ad.syr.edu> References: <5427ABEE.3050006@itforchange.net> <54300582.4030002@itforchange.net>,<5cc07bf192ce484fb6fcec8d03508871@EX13-MBX-13.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <195f1d72b19e4f7b9bb2c5f66c9b7dae@EX13-MBX-07.ad.syr.edu> Re net neutrality regulation merits and demerits, this post re 'Why is network neutrality like playing chess with a pigeon?' might be of interest in this context of what and when to regulate the Internet. http://www.martingeddes.com/network-neutrality-like-pigeons-playing-chess/ It could be taken to be from a Scotsman's/nearly independent small state point of view....of statistical multiplexing ; ) Lee ________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org on behalf of Milton L Mueller Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 2:23 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; parminder; <,bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>, Subject: RE: [governance] Internet - whether to regulate it or not From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of parminder Throughout this email, you seamlessly move between UN based international law making and US law making, which may get forced on the world bec of the US's economic and technical might, as if there isnt any real substantive difference between the two... MM: Nope. I make it very clear when I am talking about one or the other. Your point was “the U.S.” was preventing us from talking about certain issues. My contention was simply that the U.S. is talking about those things extensively at its own domestic level, and that indeed, many of those dialogues originated in the U.S. and went transnational. No confusion as to levels. When did I say there is no global discussion on net neutrality ? MM: In your original post. Glad to see you backing off here. ... As for the resistance to it and the resources thrown in for that sake I have historical details of how an NN debate and position forming got resisted on the IGC list as well in the MAG, for years, before it was finally taken up this year, MM: Another factual error. See this, a NN workshop from 2011: http://intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article?id=883:ig4d-workshop-183-a-possible-framework-for-global-net-neutrality Yes, I know the European Commission as well as Council of Europe has been working on it, and I have participated especially in the latter's effort. MM: So apparently the “US” effort to prevent discussion has failed there, too. Well, yes. How much ever may I like to, we are just not able to come off the colonial and post colonial yoke. Dont we still take everything of worth from the west? MM: A typical Parminderism. Someone notes the irony of you claiming the “the U.S.” is stopping us from discussing an issue that is being actively discussed in large part because of US domestic politics, and you transmute that into a claim that everything of worth originates from the West. Apart from US and its corporate allies being the chief instigators for filtering the debates at the IGF, MM: The chief instigators of filtering debates at the IGF are those who don’t want to disturb the IG status quo, as you know well. But that camp includes people in Europe, Latin America, Africa, Asia as well as “the U.S.” I’ve run up against those filters as much as you have, btw, only about 5 years before you. Ask yourself why I wasn’t asked to be on the IANA transition panel at either Netmundial or IGF, for example. But I am from the US. Why didn’t they welcome a fellow imperialist hegemonic white male? How do you explain this, my friend? Maybe there are substantive policy differences at stake that cannot be reduced to 1970s-vintage state-centric worldviews? Maybe “the US” is the wrong label to be using to characterize your enemies? Your whole mentality is still locked into the nation-state mindset. The US rules the global Internet, politically and economically . Any civil society actor whose chief aim is a better distribution of power (that at least is what civil society used to be) would naturally make the US as its chief target. MM: But redistributing power to whom, and for what purpose? First, it is obvious that you are talking exclusively about a redistribution of power among nation-states – an approach that is intrinsically hostile to civil society. Further, I don’t think a redistribution that, say, strengthens the Russian or Chinese states is anything to get excited about – or haven’t you kept your eyes on what is happening in Hong Kong? Perhaps you will follow Putin and Xi and blame all the HK unrest of “the U.S.”? All part of our attempt to maintain global hegemony. So let’s suppress freedom and democracy in Hong Kong so we have a better distribution of power? I don’t think strengthening the Indian or Turkish or South African states is such a great idea, either. All of them seem to be more interested in Internet control than anything else. Again I ask you to frame your debate and discourse in terms of substantive policy choices and not polarized power blocs centered on nation-states. Your mode of discourse is essentially a Cold War mentality, where our political choices are centered on being for or against the US. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Sun Oct 5 21:53:15 2014 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 07:23:15 +0530 Subject: [governance] Internet - whether to regulate it or not In-Reply-To: <195f1d72b19e4f7b9bb2c5f66c9b7dae@EX13-MBX-07.ad.syr.edu> References: <5427ABEE.3050006@itforchange.net> <54300582.4030002@itforchange.net>,<5cc07bf192ce484fb6fcec8d03508871@EX13-MBX-13.ad.syr.edu> <195f1d72b19e4f7b9bb2c5f66c9b7dae@EX13-MBX-07.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <148e3290b58.27e9.4f968dcf8ecd56c9cb8acab6370fcfe0@hserus.net> Thank you. It is extremely difficult to find unbiased literature on net neutrality anywhere much, with activists obsessed with title 2 regulation as a panacea on one side and people who have shall we say a more free market outlook on the other. On 6 October 2014 1:31:53 am Lee W McKnight wrote: > Re net neutrality regulation merits and demerits, this post re 'Why is > network neutrality like playing chess with a pigeon?' might be of interest > in this context of what and when to regulate the Internet. > > > http://www.martingeddes.com/network-neutrality-like-pigeons-playing-chess/ > > > It could be taken to be from a Scotsman's/nearly independent small state > point of view....of statistical multiplexing ; ) > > > Lee > > ________________________________ > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > on behalf of Milton L Mueller > > Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 2:23 PM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; parminder; > <,bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>, > Subject: RE: [governance] Internet - whether to regulate it or not > > > > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of parminder > > > Throughout this email, you seamlessly move between UN based international > law making and US law making, which may get forced on the world bec of the > US's economic and technical might, as if there isnt any real substantive > difference between the two... > > MM: Nope. I make it very clear when I am talking about one or the other. > Your point was “the U.S.” was preventing us from talking about certain > issues. My contention was simply that the U.S. is talking about those > things extensively at its own domestic level, and that indeed, many of > those dialogues originated in the U.S. and went transnational. No confusion > as to levels. > > When did I say there is no global discussion on net neutrality ? > > MM: In your original post. Glad to see you backing off here. > > ... As for the resistance to it and the resources thrown in for that sake I > have historical details of how an NN debate and position forming got > resisted on the IGC list as well in the MAG, for years, before it was > finally taken up this year, > > MM: Another factual error. See this, a NN workshop from 2011: > http://intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article?id=883:ig4d-workshop-183-a-possible-framework-for-global-net-neutrality > > Yes, I know the European Commission as well as Council of Europe has been > working on it, and I have participated especially in the latter's effort. > > MM: So apparently the “US” effort to prevent discussion has failed there, too. > > Well, yes. How much ever may I like to, we are just not able to come off > the colonial and post colonial yoke. Dont we still take everything of worth > from the west? > > MM: A typical Parminderism. Someone notes the irony of you claiming the > “the U.S.” is stopping us from discussing an issue that is being actively > discussed in large part because of US domestic politics, and you transmute > that into a claim that everything of worth originates from the West. > > Apart from US and its corporate allies being the chief instigators for > filtering the debates at the IGF, > > MM: The chief instigators of filtering debates at the IGF are those who > don’t want to disturb the IG status quo, as you know well. But that camp > includes people in Europe, Latin America, Africa, Asia as well as “the > U.S.” I’ve run up against those filters as much as you have, btw, only > about 5 years before you. Ask yourself why I wasn’t asked to be on the IANA > transition panel at either Netmundial or IGF, for example. But I am from > the US. Why didn’t they welcome a fellow imperialist hegemonic white male? > How do you explain this, my friend? Maybe there are substantive policy > differences at stake that cannot be reduced to 1970s-vintage state-centric > worldviews? Maybe “the US” is the wrong label to be using to characterize > your enemies? Your whole mentality is still locked into the nation-state > mindset. > > The US rules the global Internet, politically and economically . Any civil > society actor whose chief aim is a better distribution of power (that at > least is what civil society used to be) would naturally make the US as its > chief target. > > MM: But redistributing power to whom, and for what purpose? First, it is > obvious that you are talking exclusively about a redistribution of power > among nation-states – an approach that is intrinsically hostile to civil > society. Further, I don’t think a redistribution that, say, strengthens the > Russian or Chinese states is anything to get excited about – or haven’t you > kept your eyes on what is happening in Hong Kong? Perhaps you will follow > Putin and Xi and blame all the HK unrest of “the U.S.”? All part of our > attempt to maintain global hegemony. So let’s suppress freedom and > democracy in Hong Kong so we have a better distribution of power? > > I don’t think strengthening the Indian or Turkish or South African states > is such a great idea, either. All of them seem to be more interested in > Internet control than anything else. Again I ask you to frame your debate > and discourse in terms of substantive policy choices and not polarized > power blocs centered on nation-states. Your mode of discourse is > essentially a Cold War mentality, where our political choices are centered > on being for or against the US. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lee ________________________________ From: Dave Farber via ip Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 5:54 PM To: ip Subject: [IP] IAB soliciting comments on mitigation of pervasive surveillance: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Mike Liebhold" > Date: Oct 7, 2014 5:38 PM Subject: IAB soliciting comments on mitigation of pervasive surveillance: To: "Dewayne Hendricks" >, "Dave Farber" > Cc: Hi Dewayne and Dave, The Inernet Architecture Board is soliciting comments on two drafts that may be of interested in: Pervasive Attack: A Threat Model and Problem Statement https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-barnes-pervasive-problem-01 "Documents published in 2013 have revealed several classes of "pervasive" attack on Internet communications. In this document, we review the main attacks that have been published, and develop a threat model that describes these pervasive attacks. Based on this threat model, we discuss the techniques that can be employed in Internet protocol design to increase the protocols robustness to pervasive attacks." [snip] Confidentiality in the Face of Pervasive Surveillance: A Threat Model and Problem Statement https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-privsec-confidentiality-threat-00 "Documents published in 2013 have revealed several classes of "pervasive" attack on Internet communications. In this document we develop a threat model that describes these pervasive attacks. We start by assuming a completely passive adversary with an interest in indiscriminate eavesdropping that can observe network traffic, then expand the threat model with a set of verified attacks that have been published. Based on this threat model, we discuss the techniques that can be employed in Internet protocol design to increase the protocols robustness to pervasive attacks." [snip] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [perpass] IAB security/privacy programme PM draft Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:35:17 -0400 From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall To: perpass at ietf.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 As the showrunner for the confidentiality effort in the IAB privacy and security program, please do share your feedback with us. We are also contemplating a companion document on mitigations for the threats outlined in the threat model. best, Joe On 9/15/14, 10:56 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > Hi all, > > Richard and a few folks started work on documenting a problem > statement [1] some time ago. As I think was stated here before it > seems like a good plan for that to be progressed as part of the > IAB's re-factored security/privacy programme. So Brian Trammell has > picked up the pen and pushed out [2]. > > Comments very welcome (I've still to read it myself so will send my > comments here too when I've had a chance), > > Cheers, S. > > > [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-barnes-pervasive-problem [2] > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-privsec-confidentiality-threat > > _______________________________________________ perpass mailing > list perpass at ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass > - -- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Chief Technologist Center for Democracy & Technology 1634 I ST NW STE 1100 Washington DC 20006-4011 (p) 202-407-8825 (f) 202-637-0968 joe at cdt.org PGP: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUNBZEAAoJEF+GaYdAqahxrEsP/28vDnQatU/cplFLiWz9+Xda 8lscV2uhxEaQYHgy4wvsd03vgfFCE/RfG7AwX8h1+S7XDUg27GpUHLPeXJesF6cy WOSnzYN6K/WmDMn8AKYv+/FDYf6JdB5yc0zmiivAbOTDwsi6LTbRMvwRhMyUXlEM OeZlbZz5GkyMmDccUNSjS6B8WrGnxilnQX07c7bRgeq9DR5DB8QwaRsg66Z757Bi vSqDAG/87aKU8Pov5gRRHNY9QskOneuFWEIOO4pl+eqodx3c45Lyx7Ain7vjy/nO l92FTyOyf47I99vWWyrit/KBPImxNFnP2txZu1WuWXz/yNYCKxrOMiTdIycjVwVK 7jpfcAtC7IB11+nMTy4xNl4kzRBcZnCXVaWhZ+b+5/SuZX4qKrwB4YeFlQQKJXXY +F9XeG1MAjaF4qmNFeLsIUO0wadRXQ23RSlKfDqNe8s+Y2BsvoUepzxmsbSsJCJ0 NAGEGNqBnwXQwbaJO9MtTU0RzXbe1KzJw26eHY5/nfCBfyn2hYw9TjzH0cmAOOXX IcxVYBfJLu/tUNvxtpaPhlu3yvzcU99KxdjLpBsD/wOk4mfblg9AAZiwxXdq5k7+ nCSPz+CodE2OWt7UsqdCIdBiW/yaC2qnLcnMw197lRxJnDwE2NrbQx72AQAd6u9Z ndxTiZ7dEsIuOJE0OCaL =4SpJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ perpass mailing list perpass at ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass Archives [https://www.listbox.com/images/feed-icon-10x10.jpg] | Modify Your Subscription | Unsubscribe Now [https://www.listbox.com/images/listbox-logo-small.png] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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See https://new.livestream.com/internetsociety/inet-trinidad-and-tobago/videos/64319729 for Raul Echeberria's thumbnail history of IG. joly posted: "Today Wednesday 8 October 2014 and tomorrow Thursday 9 October 2014 the Internet Society will present INET Trinidad and Tobago , hosted by the Telecommunications Authority of Trinidad & Tobago (TATT). This INET is to acquaint the local community with " [image: INET Trinidad & Tobago] Today *Wednesday 8 October 2014* and tomorrow *Thursday 9 October 2014* the *Internet Society* will present *INET Trinidad and Tobago *, hosted by the *Telecommunications Authority of Trinidad & Tobago * (TATT). This INET is to acquaint the local community with Internet challenges and how to be engaged with addressing these challenges. Topics include technical and policy issues: IP numbering (IPv4 depletion, IPv6 adoption); DNSSEC; RPKI; Net neutrality; OTT; The future of the Internet; Cyber security; IXPs; Identity and Privacy; ccTLD management; Local Internet content development. Speakers include - from ISOC, *Raul Echeberria*, *Jane Coffin*, *Sebastian Bellagamba*, *Christian O’Flaherty*, *Christine Runnegar*, and *Shernon Osepa*; and from the Caribbean community: *Bernadette Lewis* (CTU), *Regenie Fraser* (CANTO), *Bevil Wooding* (PCH), *Brent McIntosh* (IPv6 Forum Grenada), *Kurleigh Prescod* (Columbus Communications), and *Dr. Patrick Hosein* (UWI). The event will be webcast live on the *Internet Society's Livestream Channel* . 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Thu Oct 9 01:03:47 2014 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 10:33:47 +0530 Subject: [governance] Internet - whether to regulate it or not In-Reply-To: <5cc07bf192ce484fb6fcec8d03508871@EX13-MBX-13.ad.syr.edu> References: <5427ABEE.3050006@itforchange.net> <54300582.4030002@itforchange.net> <5cc07bf192ce484fb6fcec8d03508871@EX13-MBX-13.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <54361733.8050906@itforchange.net> Milton There are two levels to this discussion, one is a simple argumentative-ness, and a second one which in my view address the key issue of who or which actors can and should be considered as the primary target of global civil society advocacy, as being the prime threats to the kind of global Internet that we want to see in global public interest. And an associated question being, which actors are blocking rightful public interest governance of the global Internet. I will first respond in this email to your largely superficial if not misleading arguments, and address the key underlying question in my next email. excuse my indulgence.... parminder On Sunday 05 October 2014 11:53 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > > *From:*governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of *parminder > > > Throughout this email, you seamlessly move between UN based > international law making and US law making, which may get forced on > the world bec of the US's economic and technical might, as if there > isnt any real substantive difference between the two... > > MM: Nope. I make it very clear when I am talking about one or the > other. Your point was “the U.S.” was preventing us from talking about > certain issues. My contention was simply that the U.S. is talking > about those things extensively at its own domestic level, and that > indeed, many of those dialogues originated in the U.S. and went > transnational. No confusion as to levels. > PJS: No. I said, and I quote "We badly need a global discussions on and adoption of a model law on IP based telecommunications, and on net neutrality. But any such possibility will be resisted tooth and nail, and a lot of resources thrown into it." What I am saying is that US and its cohorts prevent global discussion and *adoption* of needed public policy frameworks in the IG space... Do you content this statement. if you do, lets focus our discussion on that. Or else, concede. > When did I say there is no global discussion on net neutrality ? > > MM: In your original post. Glad to see you backing off here. > PJS: Can you please quote me, instead of insisting that I said something which I did not, and then saying I am backing off..... What I said is quoted above, I never said "there is no global discussion on net neutrality". It would be stupid to say that - I myself am a member of two global coalitions on NN. > > ... As for the resistance to it and the resources thrown in for that > sake I have historical details of how an NN debate and position > forming got resisted on the IGC list as well in the MAG, for years, > before it was finally taken up this year, > > MM: Another factual error. See this, a NN workshop from 2011: > > http://intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article?id=883:ig4d-workshop-183-a-possible-framework-for-global-net-neutrality > PJS: Again, I do know there have been workshops on NN at the IGF.... One of them, at Baku, was actually organised by me for ITfC. Can you stop producing meaningless and diversionary 'evidence'. > Yes, I know the European Commission as well as Council of Europe has > been working on it, and I have participated especially in the latter's > effort. > > MM: So apparently the “US” effort to prevent discussion has failed > there, too. > PJS: Yes, US does get away with everything it wants. We all know that. But it has succeeding in stopping NN being taken up at any truly global policy making/ framing forum, and you know that. > Well, yes. How much ever may I like to, we are just not able to come > off the colonial and post colonial yoke. Dont we still take everything > of worth from the west? > > MM: A typical Parminderism. Someone notes the irony of you claiming > the “the U.S.” is stopping us from discussing an issue that is being > actively discussed in large part because of US domestic politics, and > you transmute that into a claim that everything of worth originates > from the West. > PJS: I repeat, US does try its best that global Internet related public policy issues are not discussed and taken up by globally democratic forums in any manner that could move towards their global democratic resolution. As for your assertion that many of these issues are beign discussed globally "becuase of US domestic politics", this just betrays the symptoms of the very regrettable diseases of seeing the US as the centre of the world that many US policy makers, and policy commentators suffer from. It is not going to be very useful, but still let me repeat - we discuss Internet public policy issues globally becuase they impact us and not becuase ofUS domestic politics... > Apart from US and its corporate allies being the chief instigators for > filtering the debates at the IGF, > > MM: The chief instigators of filtering debates at the IGF are those > who don’t want to disturb the IG status quo, as you know well. But > that camp includes people in Europe, Latin America, Africa, Asia as > well as “the U.S.” > PJS:Has it not been amply clear that the US political and business establishment leads the pack and is its epicentre.. > I’ve run up against those filters as much as you have, btw, only about > 5 years before you. Ask yourself why I wasn’t asked to be on the IANA > transition panel at either Netmundial or IGF, for example. But I am > from the US. Why didn’t they welcome a fellow imperialist hegemonic > white male? How do you explain this, my friend? > PJS: You are slipping into a rhetoric which has no connection to anything I may have said. > Maybe there are substantive policy differences at stake that cannot be > reduced to 1970s-vintage state-centric worldviews? > PJS: Interesting! Ask Snowden how state-centric the world still is.. That is just one example. > Maybe “the US” is the wrong label to be using to characterize your > enemies? Your whole mentality is still locked into the nation-state > mindset. > PJS: This point will be addressed in my next email, > > The US rules the global Internet, politically and economically . Any > civil society actor whose chief aim is a better distribution of power > (that at least is what civil society used to be) would naturally make > the US as its chief target. > > MM: But redistributing power to whom, and for what purpose? > PJS: To people, for their benefit. > First, it is obvious that you are talking exclusively about a > redistribution of power among nation-states > PJS: Where is it obvious? However, yes nation states are one of the main vehicles of such redistribution, since they are still the primary vehicle of people's democratic representation ( the US constitution’s "we the people..") . And seeking to dismantle this system of democratic representation without building a more democratic one is one of the most important contemporary strategies to check redistribution of power towards the people. > – an approach that is intrinsically hostile to civil society. > PJS: Please expand this.... I think the hostility is to the rule of free unregulated market which is basically rule of big business... It is the latter's increasing power that is hostile to civil society .. > Further, I don’t think a redistribution that, say, strengthens the > Russian or Chinese states is anything to get excited about > PJS:To the extent that it can decrease illegitimate US's political and economic power (heard to the recent BRICS bank, you sure would say it is inherently hostile to 'civil society', right!) . To the extent it may empower the state vis a vis its own people, no.... Two different battles, bot important. > – or haven’t you kept your eyes on what is happening in Hong Kong? > Perhaps you will follow Putin and Xi and blame all the HK unrest of > “the U.S.”? > PJS: Slipping again into unsustainable rhetoric... Since when market fundamentalism has become revolutions friendly... I fully support the HK democratic movement, and so do colleagues inside HK who work with us. BTW, the only comment on the HK unrest I saw in IG lsits was one of Michael Gurstein showing detials of HK's Internet speeds etc and wondering whether it had to do with the protests. The whole multistakeholderist group and the Internet freedom did not utter a word... So, dont create accusations which have no basis... > All part of our attempt to maintain global hegemony. So let’s suppress > freedom and democracy in Hong Kong so we have a better distribution of > power? > PJS: Milton, you need to do better than this. > > I don’t think strengthening the Indian or Turkish or South African > states is such a great idea, either. All of them seem to be more > interested in Internet control than anything else. > Good, you were not able to bring yourself to mention India :) .. Anyway, nation state is a complex reality, and a general one kind of branding versus other may not help. Context matters. Within South Africa, almost all reform movements will be aimed against the state (happens in India and we participate in so many of them.).. At the global level, it is the US political and economic establishment which undoubtedly has the greatest concentration of power and this the greatest threat. In confronting this threat, most developing country governments can be used as allies. > Again I ask you to frame your debate and discourse in terms of > substantive policy choices and not polarized power blocs centered on > nation-states. > Well, I greatly admire the US as a nation of people. My problem is with its political and economic might which is overbearing and a threat to the world. As for substantive policy choices just go to theJust Net Coalition website , and read its Delhi Declaration as well as more than 20 statements made by it in the last 6 months. And if you find another IG group which is clearer and more profuse in offering policy choices let me know. All I have heard most IG groups is just saying over and over again, in with multistakeholder-ism, down with UN... Hardly a portfolio of "substantive policy choices". > > Your mode of discourse is essentially a Cold War mentality, where our > political choices are centered on being for or against the US. > In fact it is entirely post cold war, where the US has become a unipolar political and economic power, with no brakes or constraints, which is leading to an unsustainable concentration of power. The global Internet, born post cold war, is its prime example. Pity that there are so many in the global civil society that side with this greatest concentration of power on the global Internet "against civil society interests" to quote your somewhat flippant phrase. parminder > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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May I say that I am thoroughly enjoying this debate. 2. I think Parminder won this round. 3. Hopefully that will goad Milton into having another round... :-) Important questions. Stephanie Perrin On 2014-10-09, 1:03, parminder wrote: > > Milton > > There are two levels to this discussion, one is a simple > argumentative-ness, and a second one which in my view address the key > issue of who or which actors can and should be considered as the > primary target of global civil society advocacy, as being the prime > threats to the kind of global Internet that we want to see in global > public interest. And an associated question being, which actors are > blocking rightful public interest governance of the global Internet. > > I will first respond in this email to your largely superficial if not > misleading arguments, and address the key underlying question in my > next email. excuse my indulgence.... parminder > > > On Sunday 05 October 2014 11:53 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: >> >> *From:*governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org >> [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of *parminder >> >> >> Throughout this email, you seamlessly move between UN based >> international law making and US law making, which may get forced on >> the world bec of the US's economic and technical might, as if there >> isnt any real substantive difference between the two... >> >> MM: Nope. I make it very clear when I am talking about one or the >> other. Your point was “the U.S.” was preventing us from talking about >> certain issues. My contention was simply that the U.S. is talking >> about those things extensively at its own domestic level, and that >> indeed, many of those dialogues originated in the U.S. and went >> transnational. No confusion as to levels. >> > > PJS: No. I said, and I quote "We badly need a global discussions on > and adoption of a model law on IP based telecommunications, and on net > neutrality. But any such possibility will be resisted tooth and nail, > and a lot of resources thrown into it." > > What I am saying is that US and its cohorts prevent global discussion > and *adoption* of needed public policy frameworks in the IG space... > Do you content this statement. if you do, lets focus our discussion on > that. Or else, concede. > >> When did I say there is no global discussion on net neutrality ? >> >> MM: In your original post. Glad to see you backing off here. >> > > PJS: Can you please quote me, instead of insisting that I said > something which I did not, and then saying I am backing off..... What > I said is quoted above, I never said "there is no global discussion on > net neutrality". It would be stupid to say that - I myself am a member > of two global coalitions on NN. >> >> ... As for the resistance to it and the resources thrown in for that >> sake I have historical details of how an NN debate and position >> forming got resisted on the IGC list as well in the MAG, for years, >> before it was finally taken up this year, >> >> MM: Another factual error. See this, a NN workshop from 2011: >> >> http://intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article?id=883:ig4d-workshop-183-a-possible-framework-for-global-net-neutrality >> > > PJS: Again, I do know there have been workshops on NN at the IGF.... > One of them, at Baku, was actually organised by me for ITfC. Can you > stop producing meaningless and diversionary 'evidence'. > >> Yes, I know the European Commission as well as Council of Europe has >> been working on it, and I have participated especially in the >> latter's effort. >> >> MM: So apparently the “US” effort to prevent discussion has failed >> there, too. >> > > PJS: Yes, US does get away with everything it wants. We all know that. > But it has succeeding in stopping NN being taken up at any truly > global policy making/ framing forum, and you know that. > >> Well, yes. How much ever may I like to, we are just not able to come >> off the colonial and post colonial yoke. Dont we still take >> everything of worth from the west? >> >> MM: A typical Parminderism. Someone notes the irony of you claiming >> the “the U.S.” is stopping us from discussing an issue that is being >> actively discussed in large part because of US domestic politics, and >> you transmute that into a claim that everything of worth originates >> from the West. >> > > PJS: I repeat, US does try its best that global Internet related > public policy issues are not discussed and taken up by globally > democratic forums in any manner that could move towards their global > democratic resolution. As for your assertion that many of these issues > are beign discussed globally "becuase of US domestic politics", this > just betrays the symptoms of the very regrettable diseases of seeing > the US as the centre of the world that many US policy makers, and > policy commentators suffer from. It is not going to be very useful, > but still let me repeat - we discuss Internet public policy issues > globally becuase they impact us and not becuase ofUS domestic politics... > >> Apart from US and its corporate allies being the chief instigators >> for filtering the debates at the IGF, >> >> MM: The chief instigators of filtering debates at the IGF are those >> who don’t want to disturb the IG status quo, as you know well. But >> that camp includes people in Europe, Latin America, Africa, Asia as >> well as “the U.S.” >> > > PJS:Has it not been amply clear that the US political and business > establishment leads the pack and is its epicentre.. > >> I’ve run up against those filters as much as you have, btw, only >> about 5 years before you. Ask yourself why I wasn’t asked to be on >> the IANA transition panel at either Netmundial or IGF, for example. >> But I am from the US. Why didn’t they welcome a fellow imperialist >> hegemonic white male? How do you explain this, my friend? >> > > PJS: You are slipping into a rhetoric which has no connection to > anything I may have said. > >> Maybe there are substantive policy differences at stake that cannot >> be reduced to 1970s-vintage state-centric worldviews? >> > > PJS: Interesting! Ask Snowden how state-centric the world still is.. > That is just one example. > >> Maybe “the US” is the wrong label to be using to characterize your >> enemies? Your whole mentality is still locked into the nation-state >> mindset. >> > > PJS: This point will be addressed in my next email, >> >> The US rules the global Internet, politically and economically . Any >> civil society actor whose chief aim is a better distribution of power >> (that at least is what civil society used to be) would naturally make >> the US as its chief target. >> >> MM: But redistributing power to whom, and for what purpose? >> > > PJS: To people, for their benefit. > >> First, it is obvious that you are talking exclusively about a >> redistribution of power among nation-states >> > > PJS: Where is it obvious? However, yes nation states are one of the > main vehicles of such redistribution, since they are still the primary > vehicle of people's democratic representation ( the US constitution’s > "we the people..") . And seeking to dismantle this system of > democratic representation without building a more democratic one is > one of the most important contemporary strategies to check > redistribution of power towards the people. > > >> – an approach that is intrinsically hostile to civil society. >> > > PJS: Please expand this.... I think the hostility is to the rule of > free unregulated market which is basically rule of big business... It > is the latter's increasing power that is hostile to civil society .. > >> Further, I don’t think a redistribution that, say, strengthens the >> Russian or Chinese states is anything to get excited about >> > > PJS:To the extent that it can decrease illegitimate US's political and > economic power (heard to the recent BRICS bank, you sure would say it > is inherently hostile to 'civil society', right!) . To the extent it > may empower the state vis a vis its own people, no.... Two different > battles, bot important. > >> – or haven’t you kept your eyes on what is happening in Hong Kong? >> Perhaps you will follow Putin and Xi and blame all the HK unrest of >> “the U.S.”? >> > > PJS: Slipping again into unsustainable rhetoric... Since when market > fundamentalism has become revolutions friendly... I fully support the > HK democratic movement, and so do colleagues inside HK who work with > us. BTW, the only comment on the HK unrest I saw in IG lsits was one > of Michael Gurstein showing detials of HK's Internet speeds etc and > wondering whether it had to do with the protests. The whole > multistakeholderist group and the Internet freedom did not utter a > word... So, dont create accusations which have no basis... > >> All part of our attempt to maintain global hegemony. So let’s >> suppress freedom and democracy in Hong Kong so we have a better >> distribution of power? >> > PJS: Milton, you need to do better than this. >> >> I don’t think strengthening the Indian or Turkish or South African >> states is such a great idea, either. All of them seem to be more >> interested in Internet control than anything else. >> > > Good, you were not able to bring yourself to mention India :) .. > Anyway, nation state is a complex reality, and a general one kind of > branding versus other may not help. Context matters. Within South > Africa, almost all reform movements will be aimed against the state > (happens in India and we participate in so many of them.).. At the > global level, it is the US political and economic establishment which > undoubtedly has the greatest concentration of power and this the > greatest threat. In confronting this threat, most developing country > governments can be used as allies. > >> Again I ask you to frame your debate and discourse in terms of >> substantive policy choices and not polarized power blocs centered on >> nation-states. >> > > Well, I greatly admire the US as a nation of people. My problem is > with its political and economic might which is overbearing and a > threat to the world. As for substantive policy choices just go to > theJust Net Coalition website , and > read its Delhi Declaration > as well as more > than 20 statements made by it in the last 6 months. And if you find > another IG group which is clearer and more profuse in offering policy > choices let me know. All I have heard most IG groups is just saying > over and over again, in with multistakeholder-ism, down with UN... > Hardly a portfolio of "substantive policy choices". >> >> Your mode of discourse is essentially a Cold War mentality, where our >> political choices are centered on being for or against the US. >> > > In fact it is entirely post cold war, where the US has become a > unipolar political and economic power, with no brakes or constraints, > which is leading to an unsustainable concentration of power. The > global Internet, born post cold war, is its prime example. 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Conf. on Open Source Systems (OSS2015) Message-ID: <00ae01cfe39d$ac8260f0$058722d0$@unimi.it> [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP] **************************************************************************** *************** 11th Intl. Conf. on Open Source Systems (OSS2015) co-located with the 2015 International Conference on Software Engineering (ICSE2015) Florence, Italy 16-17 May 2015 http://www.oss2015.org **************************************************************************** *************** *** Theme: Open Frameworks: from Service to Cloud *** Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) has had a disruptive effect on the commercial software industry and the ways that organizations and individuals create, distribute, acquire and use software and software-based services. In addition to the many standalone FOSS projects, FOSS is at the heart of modern network-based computing infrastructures and can be found in the vast majority of applications that run in these environments. Many organizations that have been known for developing proprietary software are now actively involved with FOSS. FOSS adoption continues to grow among businesses, governments, and other organizations. FOSS remains important for educators and researchers, as well as an important aspect of e-government and information society initiatives, providing access to high-quality software and the code used to create it. Also, FOSS has taken the lead in a number of crucial ICT domains, like Cloud Computing, where open source cloud stacks are widely adopted, and Big Data, where a wealth of FOSS solutions is now being built around Hadoop. The 11th International Conference on Open Source Systems (OSS 2015) will celebrate a decade of advances in the use of free and open source software by emphasizing areas and topics that will drive future use over the next decade. This will be achieved through a combination of high-quality research papers, tutorials, workshops, demonstrations, and invited talks. OSS2015 will be co-located with the 2015 International Conference on Software Engineering as a way to cross-fertilize ideas. The theme for the 2015 edition will be "Open frameworks: from service to cloud", putting forward the idea on how open source framework can develop the transition from traditional IT services to cloud-based architectures. A central goal of OSS 2015 is to provide an international forum where a diverse community of professionals from academia, industry, the public sector, and diverse FOSS initiatives can come together to share research findings and practical experiences. The conference also aims to serve as a meeting place where people can identify new research ideas and techniques for putting FOSS into widespread use. OSS 2015 will include research papers, industry papers, formal tool demonstrations, lightning talks, new ideas, experience reports, and posters. OSS 2015 also invites proposals for tutorials and workshops, submissions to the doctoral symposium, and submissions of panel proposals. Accepted papers will be included in the conference proceedings, which are published by Springer. ** Topics We are seeking submissions across a broad range of topics, but are particularly interested in those areas most likely to have an impact on computing over the next decade, including computing infrastructure, data management, and the Internet of Things. For practical experiences, we are seeking submissions that describe FOSS applications in embedded systems (IoT), health care, transportation, communications, and energy management. 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All papers must conform, at time of submission, to the Springer Formatting Guidelines (LNCS) (http://www.springer.com/computer/lncs?SGWID=0-164-6-793341-0). You may utilize the templates provided in our website. Submissions must be in PDF format with a limit of 10 pages for each paper. All submissions will be peer-reviewed double blinded, therefore please remove any information that could give an indication of the authorship or affiliations. Authors of accepted papers will be therefore be required to sign a copyright transfer (as well as register for and attend the conference). When your paper is finished, submit it using EasyChair (https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=oss2015) according to the submission deadlines. ** Organizing Committee * General Chair - Ernesto Damiani, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy * Program Chairs - Dirk Riehle, Friedrich-Alexander-University Erlangen-Nürnberg, Germany - Tony Wasserman, Carnegie Mellon University, USA * Regional Publicity Chairs - Moataz Ahmed, King Fahd University of Petroleum & Minerals, Saudi Arabia - Karl Reed, La Trobe University, Australia * Organizing Chairs - Fulvio Frati, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy - Nadia Fusar Poli, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy * Web Chair - Fulvio Frati, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy * Program Committee - Chintan Amrit, University of Twente, The Netherlands - Luciano Baresi, DEIB Politecnico di Milano, Italy - Paolo Ciancarini, University of Bologna, Italy - Francesco Di Cerbo, SAP Research Sophia-Antipolis, France - Jonas Gamalielsson, University of Skovde, Sweden - Jesus M. 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The event is being webcast live via YouTube. Ottawa is on" [image: Canada Internet Forum] Today *Thursday October 9 2014* the Canadian Internet Registration Authority (CIRA) is hosting the *Canada Internet Forum 2014 *. The agenda includes video presentations from *Vint Cerf* and *Fadi Chehadé*. The event is being webcast live via YouTube . Ottawa is on EDT, sama as NYC (UTC-4). *What*: Canada Internet Forum 2014 *Where*: Canadian Museum of Nature, Ottawa *When*: Thursday October 9 2014 8am– 5:45pm EDT | 1200-2145 UTC *Agenda*: http://www.cira.ca/assets/Documents/CIF/2014-agenda.pdf *Webcast*: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O-CRM29tW4 *Twitter*: #CIRAif Comment See all comments *Permalink*: http://isoc-ny.org/p2/7075 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Fri Oct 10 08:53:47 2014 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:23:47 +0530 Subject: [governance] Re: [bestbits] PK's 2-pager on ITU and Plenipot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5437D6DB.2090406@itforchange.net> On Friday 10 October 2014 12:21 AM, Carolina Rossini wrote: > Available at: > > https://www.publicknowledge.org/documents/international-telecommunication-union-itu-plenipotentiary-conference > Carolina, So what the Public Knowledge is basically saying is that the ITU should practically do nothing, more or less. I mean I saw nothing in this statement about what it should actually do given that the plenipotentiary is the occasion on which the ITU revisits its complete work program. Well yes there is something about WTDC working groups but no clarity about what exactly they can and should do. For instance, the very formation of BestBits was informed by the need for a "positive agenda". Where is a positive agenda ever? After all, in a time of ICTs driven global social revolution/ transformation there must be something to do in the communication, ICTs and Internet space. What should ITU do about this new situation to make sure that things serve global public interest, and if the ITU is to be doing little or nothing, who should be doing it. Not only in your submission but also elsewhere (it seems to be happening all together), I see a creeping assertion that multistakeholder "decision making" should extend beyond technical areas to substantive Internet-related public policy making areas of many different kinds. Please do let me know if I am wrong in this interpretation, which in fact comes quite clearly in your submission. You say ITU should not be exploring a treaty on cyber-security, which I would suppose people would agree is urgently needed in this period of extreme cyber insecurity... So, if ITU should not do the work towards such a treaty, who do you think should do it? The UN's first committee working on security issues, which has done some work on cyber-security? Or are you proposing a multistakeholder body should do such a treaty, in which case too please do put forward your proposal.. These are serious issues of Internet governance today, and should be discussed thoroughly.... Just telling the ITU to open up all its documents but then really to do nothing really substantive does not appear to me to an adequate response to where the world stands vis a vis the Internet and its democratic governance. parminder PS: I cc ed two other elists bec this is an important matter deserving a good discussion . > > > -- > /Carolina Rossini / > /Vice President, International Policy/ > *Public Knowledge* > _http://www.publicknowledge.org/_ > + 1 6176979389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Fri Oct 10 10:06:12 2014 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 19:36:12 +0530 Subject: [governance] Re: [bestbits] PK's 2-pager on ITU and Plenipot In-Reply-To: <5437D6DB.2090406@itforchange.net> References: <5437D6DB.2090406@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <148fa618098.27e9.4f968dcf8ecd56c9cb8acab6370fcfe0@hserus.net> Ah, a cybersecurity treaty. A non proliferation treaty? When there is no shortage of non state actors dealing in malware, who have historically provided arms length and plausible deniablity for previous efforts in the interest of various nation states? Or an enforcement treaty on the lines of the Budapest convention, which would not be entirely in scope for a civilian agency like ITU whose constituency is telecom ministries and regulatory authorities? And to which in any case most if not all the very few nation states that are collectively the largest sources of online crime are not members? What specific sort of treaty and how is it to be enforced? Some details would be great to back all those airy assertions about the pk paper On 10 October 2014 6:24:35 pm parminder wrote: > On Friday 10 October 2014 12:21 AM, Carolina Rossini wrote: > > Available at: > > > > > https://www.publicknowledge.org/documents/international-telecommunication-union-itu-plenipotentiary-conference > > > > Carolina, > > So what the Public Knowledge is basically saying is that the ITU should > practically do nothing, more or less. I mean I saw nothing in this > statement about what it should actually do given that the > plenipotentiary is the occasion on which the ITU revisits its complete > work program. Well yes there is something about WTDC working groups but > no clarity about what exactly they can and should do. For instance, the > very formation of BestBits was informed by the need for a "positive > agenda". Where is a positive agenda ever? After all, in a time of ICTs > driven global social revolution/ transformation there must be something > to do in the communication, ICTs and Internet space. What should ITU do > about this new situation to make sure that things serve global public > interest, and if the ITU is to be doing little or nothing, who should be > doing it. > > Not only in your submission but also elsewhere (it seems to be happening > all together), I see a creeping assertion that multistakeholder > "decision making" should extend beyond technical areas to substantive > Internet-related public policy making areas of many different kinds. > Please do let me know if I am wrong in this interpretation, which in > fact comes quite clearly in your submission. > > You say ITU should not be exploring a treaty on cyber-security, which I > would suppose people would agree is urgently needed in this period of > extreme cyber insecurity... So, if ITU should not do the work towards > such a treaty, who do you think should do it? The UN's first committee > working on security issues, which has done some work on cyber-security? > Or are you proposing a multistakeholder body should do such a treaty, in > which case too please do put forward your proposal.. > > These are serious issues of Internet governance today, and should be > discussed thoroughly.... Just telling the ITU to open up all its > documents but then really to do nothing really substantive does not > appear to me to an adequate response to where the world stands vis a vis > the Internet and its democratic governance. > > parminder > > PS: I cc ed two other elists bec this is an important matter deserving a > good discussion . > > > > > > > > -- > > /Carolina Rossini / > > /Vice President, International Policy/ > > *Public Knowledge* > > _http://www.publicknowledge.org/_ > > + 1 6176979389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We will be well represented in Los Angeles by President David Solomonoff and Board Member Avri Doria, amongst others. Now stick-at-homers will also have an opportunity to get involved as, for the first time, we will set up an interactive remote hub for the Public Forum (plus two earlier sessions related to accountability and the IANA transition). ICANN have given us generous support so we will be providing lunch for those who attend the whole day. Space is limited so please only register if you are absolutely attending. joly posted: "On Thursday October 16 2014 the Internet Society's New York Chapter (ISOC-NY), Connecting .nyc, and the Brooklyn Law Incubator & Policy Clinic (BLIP) will host a Remote Hub for the 51st Meeting of the Internet Corporation of Assigned Names and Number" [image: NYC ICANN 51]On *Thursday October 16 2014* the *Internet Society's New York Chapter* (ISOC-NY),* Connecting .nyc *, and the *Brooklyn Law Incubator & Policy Clinic* (BLIP) will host a Remote Hub for the *51st Meeting of the Internet Corporation of Assigned Names and Numbers * aka *ICANN 51*, taking place in *Los Angeles*. The hub will be fully interactive, with 2-way video, and participate in 3 sessions. Plentiful refreshments will be supplied, courtesy of ICANN. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Fri Oct 10 17:48:03 2014 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 21:48:03 +0000 Subject: [governance] Civil Society Representatives on IGF Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) 2015 Message-ID: The Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group (CSCG) is pleased to be able to inform you of our recommendations as regards civil society representation on MAG 2015. As you know, CSCG is a "coalition of coalitions" of the major civil society groups involved in the internet governance arena and associated areas.(see details below). Our role in working together is to ensure a co-ordinated civil society response and conduit when it comes to making civil society appointments to outside bodies. *Nominations for 2015 MAG civil society representatives* After each of our coalition members published a Call for Nominations within their coalition, each member shortlisted the names from their individual coalition (if necessary) which would be further considered for endorsement. The CSCG Nominating Committee considered 29 names short-listed for final discussion, with the following criteria. 1. Past record of active engagement as part of civil society groups working on internet governance issues, acting or speaking out assertively on behalf of public interest concerns. 2 Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS networks (including beyond those focused on internet governance where appropriate) on MAG discussions. 3. Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level. 4. Willing, available and able to participate effectively and constructively in the MAG deliberations. In considering names, our nominating committee firstly considered the advice from the Secretariat that 10 people considered to be civil society representatives were ending their terms this year - an unusually high number on an annual basis. Accordingly, we have selected 10 names for new members as outlined below. We recommend the following 10 names as the new representatives for civil society (in alphabetical order). Each will need to submit a full application with further details pertaining to their suitability as MAG members. *1.* *Sunil Abraham* (India) *2.* *Renata Avila* (Guatemala) *3.* *Oh Byoungil* (South Korea) *4.* *John Dada* (Nigeria) *5.* *Avri Doria *(USA) *6.* *Stuart Hamilton *(United Kingdom) *7.* *Lea Kaspar *(Croatia). *8.* *Jak SM Kee* (Malaysia). *9.* *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito *(Kenya) *10.* *Virginia Paque* (Venezuela) We also considered the remaining representatives whose three year terms have not expired, and we conclude that the only civil society person whose term has not expired is Fatima Cambronero (Argentina), We consider Fatima to be an excellent representative, and have no hesitation in supporting the continuation of her term of engagement. Accordingly, we also endorse the continued involvement of *Fatima Cambronero* (Argentina) as the only remaining civil society representative carried forward to 2015 MAG. In doing so we note that there are no other continuing members of MAG who are civil society representatives. In addition to the above names, the CSCG has considered a wide range of very talented civil society representatives it was not able to include in its recommendations. We are very thankful for all the applicants, despite their making our job much harder, and will advise the Secretariat that, should IGF require names of suitable and accomplished additional representatives in providing overall regional balance, we would be very pleased to provide additional names in confidence of further civil society people who could make an outstanding contribution to the 2015 MAG. We will be in contact with the selected CS representatives shortly to discuss some brief biographical details for our letter to the IGF Secretariat, and other details of their nominations. In the mean time, we thank everyone for their participation and co-operation in this exercise and believe that this effort has yielded some outstanding candidates to represent civil society. Sincerely *2015 CSCG MAG Nominating Committee* Norbert Bollow, Just Net Coalition representative Mawaki Chango, Internet Governance Caucus representative Robin Gross, Non Commercial Stakeholders Group representative Jeremy Malcolm, Best Bits Coalition representative Chat Garcia Ramilo, Association for Progressive Communications representative Ian Peter, Independent Chair Note: Virginia Paque (Diplo Foundation) withdrew from Nominating Committee discussions before nominations were opened and criteria developed, as she intended to stand as a candidate. Mandeep Tiwana (Civicus) also did not participate in the Nominating Committee. *Member Organisations of Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group - brief descriptions* · Association for Progressive Communications, an international membership-based network founded in 1990 who work together in using ICTs to empower and support others to build strategic communities and promote easy and affordable access to a free and open internet. · Best Bits, a network of civil society organisations from across the world, who come together to share and collaborate on individual and joint initiatives in support of human rights and other broadly shared civil society interests in Internet governance. · Civicus, a global civil society alliance with over 1000 members in 120 countries · Diplo Foundation, which has a focus on assisting participants from small and developing states to build the capacity to engage effectively in Internet Governance and diplomacy. Since 2003, Diplo's Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme (IGCBP) has involved over 1500 professionals and activists from 163 states. · Internet Governance Caucus, an organisation with over 200 organisational and individual members founded in 2004 to specifically address emerging internet governance issues. · Just Net Coalition, formed in 2014, a global coalition with specific interests in democracy, human rights and social justice. · Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group, (NCSG) an organization of more than 400 non-commercial organizations and individuals who develop Internet policy through participation in ICANN's policy development process. NCSG promotes noncommercial interests in the formulation of ICANN policy including human rights, academic, development, educational, and cultural interests. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Fri Oct 10 18:56:13 2014 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 10:56:13 +1200 Subject: [governance] Civil Society Representatives on IGF Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52113833-D217-4886-A022-368705FEFE04@gmail.com> Well done, and many thanks. Sent from my iPad > On Oct 11, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group (CSCG) is pleased to be able to inform you of our recommendations as regards civil society representation on MAG 2015. > > As you know, CSCG is a “coalition of coalitions” of the major civil society groups involved in the internet governance arena and associated areas.(see details below). Our role in working together is to ensure a co-ordinated civil society response and conduit when it comes to making civil society appointments to outside bodies. > > Nominations for 2015 MAG civil society representatives > > After each of our coalition members published a Call for Nominations within their coalition, each member shortlisted the names from their individual coalition (if necessary) which would be further considered for endorsement. The CSCG Nominating Committee considered 29 names short-listed for final discussion, with the following criteria. > > 1. Past record of active engagement as part of civil society groups working on internet governance issues, acting or speaking out assertively on behalf of public interest concerns. > > 2 Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS networks (including beyond those focused on internet governance where appropriate) on MAG discussions. > > 3. Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level. > > 4. Willing, available and able to participate effectively and constructively in the MAG deliberations. > > > In considering names, our nominating committee firstly considered the advice from the Secretariat that 10 people considered to be civil society representatives were ending their terms this year – an unusually high number on an annual basis. Accordingly, we have selected 10 names for new members as outlined below. > > We recommend the following 10 names as the new representatives for civil society (in alphabetical order). Each will need to submit a full application with further details pertaining to their suitability as MAG members. > > 1. Sunil Abraham (India) > 2. Renata Avila (Guatemala) > 3. Oh Byoungil (South Korea) > 4. John Dada (Nigeria) > 5. Avri Doria (USA) > 6. Stuart Hamilton (United Kingdom) > 7. Lea Kaspar (Croatia). > 8. Jak SM Kee (Malaysia). > 9. Ephraim Percy Kenyanito (Kenya) > 10. Virginia Paque (Venezuela) > > We also considered the remaining representatives whose three year terms have not expired, and we conclude that the only civil society person whose term has not expired is Fatima Cambronero (Argentina), We consider Fatima to be an excellent representative, and have no hesitation in supporting the continuation of her term of engagement. Accordingly, we also endorse the continued involvement of Fatima Cambronero (Argentina) as the only remaining civil society representative carried forward to 2015 MAG. In doing so we note that there are no other continuing members of MAG who are civil society representatives. > > In addition to the above names, the CSCG has considered a wide range of very talented civil society representatives it was not able to include in its recommendations. We are very thankful for all the applicants, despite their making our job much harder, and will advise the Secretariat that, should IGF require names of suitable and accomplished additional representatives in providing overall regional balance, we would be very pleased to provide additional names in confidence of further civil society people who could make an outstanding contribution to the 2015 MAG. > > We will be in contact with the selected CS representatives shortly to discuss some brief biographical details for our letter to the IGF Secretariat, and other details of their nominations. In the mean time, we thank everyone for their participation and co-operation in this exercise and believe that this effort has yielded some outstanding candidates to represent civil society. > > > > Sincerely > > > > 2015 CSCG MAG Nominating Committee > > Norbert Bollow, Just Net Coalition representative > > Mawaki Chango, Internet Governance Caucus representative > > Robin Gross, Non Commercial Stakeholders Group representative > > Jeremy Malcolm, Best Bits Coalition representative > > Chat Garcia Ramilo, Association for Progressive Communications representative > > Ian Peter, Independent Chair > > Note: Virginia Paque (Diplo Foundation) withdrew from Nominating Committee discussions before nominations were opened and criteria developed, as she intended to stand as a candidate. Mandeep Tiwana (Civicus) also did not participate in the Nominating Committee. > > > > Member Organisations of Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group – brief descriptions > > · Association for Progressive Communications, an international membership-based network founded in 1990 who work together in using ICTs to empower and support others to build strategic communities and promote easy and affordable access to a free and open internet. > · Best Bits, a network of civil society organisations from across the world, who come together to share and collaborate on individual and joint initiatives in support of human rights and other broadly shared civil society interests in Internet governance. > · Civicus, a global civil society alliance with over 1000 members in 120 countries > · Diplo Foundation, which has a focus on assisting participants from small and developing states to build the capacity to engage effectively in Internet Governance and diplomacy. Since 2003, Diplo’s Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme (IGCBP) has involved over 1500 professionals and activists from 163 states. > · Internet Governance Caucus, an organisation with over 200 organisational and individual members founded in 2004 to specifically address emerging internet governance issues. > · Just Net Coalition, formed in 2014, a global coalition with specific interests in democracy, human rights and social justice. > · Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group, (NCSG) an organization of more than 400 non-commercial organizations and individuals who develop Internet policy through participation in ICANN's policy development process. NCSG promotes noncommercial interests in the formulation of ICANN policy including human rights, academic, development, educational, and cultural interests. > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Fri Oct 10 21:17:07 2014 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 06:47:07 +0530 Subject: [governance] Civil Society Representatives on IGF Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is among the best slates of mag nominations I have seen in the recent past. Congratulations to all concerned and thanks to the nomcom. --srs (iPad) > On 11-Oct-2014, at 03:18, Mawaki Chango wrote: > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group (CSCG) is pleased to be able to inform you of our recommendations as regards civil society representation on MAG 2015. > > As you know, CSCG is a “coalition of coalitions” of the major civil society groups involved in the internet governance arena and associated areas.(see details below). Our role in working together is to ensure a co-ordinated civil society response and conduit when it comes to making civil society appointments to outside bodies. > > Nominations for 2015 MAG civil society representatives > > After each of our coalition members published a Call for Nominations within their coalition, each member shortlisted the names from their individual coalition (if necessary) which would be further considered for endorsement. The CSCG Nominating Committee considered 29 names short-listed for final discussion, with the following criteria. > > 1. Past record of active engagement as part of civil society groups working on internet governance issues, acting or speaking out assertively on behalf of public interest concerns. > > 2 Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS networks (including beyond those focused on internet governance where appropriate) on MAG discussions. > > 3. Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level. > > 4. Willing, available and able to participate effectively and constructively in the MAG deliberations. > > > In considering names, our nominating committee firstly considered the advice from the Secretariat that 10 people considered to be civil society representatives were ending their terms this year – an unusually high number on an annual basis. Accordingly, we have selected 10 names for new members as outlined below. > > We recommend the following 10 names as the new representatives for civil society (in alphabetical order). Each will need to submit a full application with further details pertaining to their suitability as MAG members. > > 1. Sunil Abraham (India) > 2. Renata Avila (Guatemala) > 3. Oh Byoungil (South Korea) > 4. John Dada (Nigeria) > 5. Avri Doria (USA) > 6. Stuart Hamilton (United Kingdom) > 7. Lea Kaspar (Croatia). > 8. Jak SM Kee (Malaysia). > 9. Ephraim Percy Kenyanito (Kenya) > 10. Virginia Paque (Venezuela) > > We also considered the remaining representatives whose three year terms have not expired, and we conclude that the only civil society person whose term has not expired is Fatima Cambronero (Argentina), We consider Fatima to be an excellent representative, and have no hesitation in supporting the continuation of her term of engagement. Accordingly, we also endorse the continued involvement of Fatima Cambronero (Argentina) as the only remaining civil society representative carried forward to 2015 MAG. In doing so we note that there are no other continuing members of MAG who are civil society representatives. > > In addition to the above names, the CSCG has considered a wide range of very talented civil society representatives it was not able to include in its recommendations. We are very thankful for all the applicants, despite their making our job much harder, and will advise the Secretariat that, should IGF require names of suitable and accomplished additional representatives in providing overall regional balance, we would be very pleased to provide additional names in confidence of further civil society people who could make an outstanding contribution to the 2015 MAG. > > We will be in contact with the selected CS representatives shortly to discuss some brief biographical details for our letter to the IGF Secretariat, and other details of their nominations. In the mean time, we thank everyone for their participation and co-operation in this exercise and believe that this effort has yielded some outstanding candidates to represent civil society. > > > > Sincerely > > > > 2015 CSCG MAG Nominating Committee > > Norbert Bollow, Just Net Coalition representative > > Mawaki Chango, Internet Governance Caucus representative > > Robin Gross, Non Commercial Stakeholders Group representative > > Jeremy Malcolm, Best Bits Coalition representative > > Chat Garcia Ramilo, Association for Progressive Communications representative > > Ian Peter, Independent Chair > > Note: Virginia Paque (Diplo Foundation) withdrew from Nominating Committee discussions before nominations were opened and criteria developed, as she intended to stand as a candidate. Mandeep Tiwana (Civicus) also did not participate in the Nominating Committee. > > > > Member Organisations of Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group – brief descriptions > > · Association for Progressive Communications, an international membership-based network founded in 1990 who work together in using ICTs to empower and support others to build strategic communities and promote easy and affordable access to a free and open internet. > · Best Bits, a network of civil society organisations from across the world, who come together to share and collaborate on individual and joint initiatives in support of human rights and other broadly shared civil society interests in Internet governance. > · Civicus, a global civil society alliance with over 1000 members in 120 countries > · Diplo Foundation, which has a focus on assisting participants from small and developing states to build the capacity to engage effectively in Internet Governance and diplomacy. Since 2003, Diplo’s Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme (IGCBP) has involved over 1500 professionals and activists from 163 states. > · Internet Governance Caucus, an organisation with over 200 organisational and individual members founded in 2004 to specifically address emerging internet governance issues. > · Just Net Coalition, formed in 2014, a global coalition with specific interests in democracy, human rights and social justice. > · Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group, (NCSG) an organization of more than 400 non-commercial organizations and individuals who develop Internet policy through participation in ICANN's policy development process. NCSG promotes noncommercial interests in the formulation of ICANN policy including human rights, academic, development, educational, and cultural interests. > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Fri Oct 10 21:20:46 2014 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 06:50:46 +0530 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet References: Message-ID: <752BA017-3440-4478-AB88-285C4FEBA813@hserus.net> "Broad based" and "multilateral" seem to be a contradiction in terms, though possibly this is from a group less concerned with the finer points of igov jargon than most of the existing actors are? They do talk about gender parity, which will be interesting on how they plan to work this into an iGov model. --srs (iPad) Begin forwarded message: > From: "Dave Farber via ip" > Date: 11 October 2014 00:49:59 IST > To: "ip" > Subject: [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet > Reply-To: dave at farber.net > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Ram Mohan" > Date: Oct 10, 2014 2:48 PM > Subject: WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet > To: "Dave Farber" > Cc: "Ram Mohan" > > Dave, > > Here is a piece from a press release by the World Economic Forum (WEF) regarding their plan to “build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet” that might be interesting to the IP readership. > > > > Excerpt below: > > “The Annual Meeting 2015 will provide a platform for over 50 initiatives that are currently being led by the Forum, with the aim of contributing positive, transformative change to the global agenda, as well as those of industry, business and the world’s regions. These include a public-private initiative to help achieve zero net tropical deforestation caused by key agricultural commodities by 2020; an endeavour to build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet; and the Forum’s Gender Parity Taskforces, which work with governments worldwide to improve economic opportunity for the female half of the population.” > > > > -Ram > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It now says "a multistakeholder endeavour to stimulate more cross-industry and cross-ministry strategic dialogue on ways to strengthen multistakeholder Internet governance ‎and cooperation.” This is a separate track of activity from the NMI/platform for collaborative projects. http://www.weforum.org/news/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2015-address-new-global-context?news=page Best Bill On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > "Broad based" and "multilateral" seem to be a contradiction in terms, though possibly this is from a group less concerned with the finer points of igov jargon than most of the existing actors are? > > They do talk about gender parity, which will be interesting on how they plan to work this into an iGov model. > > --srs (iPad) > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Dave Farber via ip" >> Date: 11 October 2014 00:49:59 IST >> To: "ip" >> Subject: [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet >> Reply-To: dave at farber.net >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "Ram Mohan" >> Date: Oct 10, 2014 2:48 PM >> Subject: WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet >> To: "Dave Farber" >> Cc: "Ram Mohan" >> >> Dave, >> >> Here is a piece from a press release by the World Economic Forum (WEF) regarding their plan to “build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet” that might be interesting to the IP readership. >> >> >> Excerpt below: >> >> “The Annual Meeting 2015 will provide a platform for over 50 initiatives that are currently being led by the Forum, with the aim of contributing positive, transformative change to the global agenda, as well as those of industry, business and the world’s regions. These include a public-private initiative to help achieve zero net tropical deforestation caused by key agricultural commodities by 2020; an endeavour to build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet; and the Forum’s Gender Parity Taskforces, which work with governments worldwide to improve economic opportunity for the female half of the population.” >> >> >> -Ram >> >> >> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Sat Oct 11 12:48:59 2014 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 22:18:59 +0530 Subject: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet In-Reply-To: <64B4A30E-59B7-40CB-941A-7C52CDC66382@gmail.com> References: <752BA017-3440-4478-AB88-285C4FEBA813@hserus.net> <64B4A30E-59B7-40CB-941A-7C52CDC66382@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54395F7B.70807@itforchange.net> On Saturday 11 October 2014 09:49 PM, William Drake wrote: > Hi > > The ill-chosen wording has been pointed out to the WEF and the text > has been changed. Real quick stuff, i'd say, from both sides :) .... parminder > It now says "a multistakeholder endeavour to stimulate more > cross-industry and cross-ministry strategic dialogue on ways to > strengthen multistakeholder Internet governance ‎and cooperation.” > This is a separate track of activity from the NMI/platform for > collaborative projects. > > http://www.weforum.org/news/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2015-address-new-global-context?news=page > > Best > > Bill > > On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian > wrote: > >> "Broad based" and "multilateral" seem to be a contradiction in terms, >> though possibly this is from a group less concerned with the finer >> points of igov jargon than most of the existing actors are? >> >> They do talk about gender parity, which will be interesting on how >> they plan to work this into an iGov model. >> >> --srs (iPad) >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> *From:* "Dave Farber via ip" > >>> *Date:* 11 October 2014 00:49:59 IST >>> *To:* "ip" > >>> *Subject:* *[IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral >>> architecture to govern internet* >>> *Reply-To:* dave at farber.net >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: "Ram Mohan" > >>> Date: Oct 10, 2014 2:48 PM >>> Subject: WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to >>> govern internet >>> To: "Dave Farber" > >>> Cc: "Ram Mohan" > >>> >>> Dave, >>> >>> Here is a piece from a press release >>> >>> by the World Economic Forum (WEF) regarding their plan to “build a >>> broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the >>> internet” that might be interesting to the IP readership. >>> >>> >>> Excerpt below: >>> >>> “The Annual Meeting 2015 will provide a platform for over 50 >>> initiatives that are currently being led by the Forum, with the aim >>> of contributing positive, transformative change to the global >>> agenda, as well as those of industry, business and the world’s >>> regions. These include a public-private initiative to help achieve >>> zero net tropical deforestation caused by key agricultural >>> commodities by 2020; an endeavour to build a broad-based, >>> multilateral global architecture for governing the internet; and the >>> Forum’s Gender Parity Taskforces, which work with governments >>> worldwide to improve economic opportunity for the female half of the >>> population.” >>> >>> >>> -Ram >>> >>> >>> >>> [Powered by Listbox] >>> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Dear All, Thanks for this information. I also want to thank you all for continuing to support me in this role of MAG member as civil society representative. I will do my best to represent our interests. Congratulations to all the colleagues selected! Best Regards, Fatima 2014-10-10 22:17 GMT-03:00 Suresh Ramasubramanian : > This is among the best slates of mag nominations I have seen in the recent > past. Congratulations to all concerned and thanks to the nomcom. > > --srs (iPad) > > On 11-Oct-2014, at 03:18, Mawaki Chango wrote: > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group (CSCG) is > pleased to be able to inform you of our recommendations as regards civil > society representation on MAG 2015. > > As you know, CSCG is a "coalition of coalitions" of the major civil > society groups involved in the internet governance arena and associated > areas.(see details below). Our role in working together is to ensure a > co-ordinated civil society response and conduit when it comes to making > civil society appointments to outside bodies. > > *Nominations for 2015 MAG civil society representatives* > > After each of our coalition members published a Call for Nominations > within their coalition, each member shortlisted the names from their > individual coalition (if necessary) which would be further considered for > endorsement. The CSCG Nominating Committee considered 29 names > short-listed for final discussion, with the following criteria. > > 1. Past record of active engagement as part of civil society groups > working on internet governance issues, acting or speaking out assertively > on behalf of public interest concerns. > > 2 Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS > networks (including beyond those focused on internet governance where > appropriate) on MAG discussions. > > 3. Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level. > > 4. Willing, available and able to participate effectively and > constructively in the MAG deliberations. > > > > In considering names, our nominating committee firstly considered the > advice from the Secretariat that 10 people considered to be civil society > representatives were ending their terms this year - an unusually high > number on an annual basis. Accordingly, we have selected 10 names for new > members as outlined below. > > We recommend the following 10 names as the new representatives for civil > society (in alphabetical order). Each will need to submit a full > application with further details pertaining to their suitability as MAG > members. > > *1.* *Sunil Abraham* (India) > > *2.* *Renata Avila* (Guatemala) > > *3.* *Oh Byoungil* (South Korea) > > *4.* *John Dada* (Nigeria) > > *5.* *Avri Doria *(USA) > > *6.* *Stuart Hamilton *(United Kingdom) > > *7.* *Lea Kaspar *(Croatia). > > *8.* *Jak SM Kee* (Malaysia). > > *9.* *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito *(Kenya) > > *10.* *Virginia Paque* (Venezuela) > > We also considered the remaining representatives whose three year terms > have not expired, and we conclude that the only civil society person whose > term has not expired is Fatima Cambronero (Argentina), We consider Fatima > to be an excellent representative, and have no hesitation in supporting the > continuation of her term of engagement. Accordingly, we also endorse the > continued involvement of *Fatima Cambronero* (Argentina) as the only > remaining civil society representative carried forward to 2015 MAG. In > doing so we note that there are no other continuing members of MAG who are > civil society representatives. > > In addition to the above names, the CSCG has considered a wide range of > very talented civil society representatives it was not able to include in > its recommendations. We are very thankful for all the applicants, despite > their making our job much harder, and will advise the Secretariat that, > should IGF require names of suitable and accomplished additional > representatives in providing overall regional balance, we would be very > pleased to provide additional names in confidence of further civil society > people who could make an outstanding contribution to the 2015 MAG. > > > > We will be in contact with the selected CS representatives shortly to > discuss some brief biographical details for our letter to the IGF > Secretariat, and other details of their nominations. In the mean time, we > thank everyone for their participation and co-operation in this exercise > and believe that this effort has yielded some outstanding candidates to > represent civil society. > > > > Sincerely > > > > *2015 CSCG MAG Nominating Committee* > > Norbert Bollow, Just Net Coalition representative > > Mawaki Chango, Internet Governance Caucus representative > > Robin Gross, Non Commercial Stakeholders Group representative > > Jeremy Malcolm, Best Bits Coalition representative > > Chat Garcia Ramilo, Association for Progressive > Communications representative > > Ian Peter, Independent Chair > > Note: Virginia Paque (Diplo Foundation) withdrew from Nominating Committee > discussions before nominations were opened and criteria developed, as she > intended to stand as a candidate. Mandeep Tiwana (Civicus) also did not > participate in the Nominating Committee. > > > > *Member Organisations of Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination > Group - brief descriptions* > > · Association for Progressive Communications, an international > membership-based network founded in 1990 who work together in using ICTs to > empower and support others to build strategic communities and promote easy > and affordable access to a free and open internet. > > · Best Bits, a network of civil society organisations from across > the world, who come together to share and collaborate on individual and > joint initiatives in support of human rights and other broadly shared civil > society interests in Internet governance. > > · Civicus, a global civil society alliance with over 1000 members > in 120 countries > > · Diplo Foundation, which has a focus on assisting participants > from small and developing states to build the capacity to engage > effectively in Internet Governance and diplomacy. Since 2003, Diplo's > Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme (IGCBP) has involved over > 1500 professionals and activists from 163 states. > > · Internet Governance Caucus, an organisation with over 200 > organisational and individual members founded in 2004 to specifically > address emerging internet governance issues. > > · Just Net Coalition, formed in 2014, a global coalition with > specific interests in democracy, human rights and social justice. > > · Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group, (NCSG) an organization of > more than 400 non-commercial organizations and individuals who develop > Internet policy through participation in ICANN's policy development > process. NCSG promotes noncommercial interests in the formulation of ICANN > policy including human rights, academic, development, educational, and > cultural interests. > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- *Fatima Cambronero* Abogada-Argentina Phone: +54 9351 5282 668 Twitter: @facambronero Skype: fatima.cambronero -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Sat Oct 11 20:37:21 2014 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 06:07:21 +0530 Subject: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet In-Reply-To: <54395F7B.70807@itforchange.net> References: <752BA017-3440-4478-AB88-285C4FEBA813@hserus.net> <64B4A30E-59B7-40CB-941A-7C52CDC66382@gmail.com> <54395F7B.70807@itforchange.net> Message-ID: Thanks Bill And this is one of those rare occasions where I find myself agreeing with Parminder. So thanks Parminder too. Really quick work. --srs (iPad) > On 11-Oct-2014, at 22:18, parminder wrote: > > >> On Saturday 11 October 2014 09:49 PM, William Drake wrote: >> Hi >> >> The ill-chosen wording has been pointed out to the WEF and the text has been changed. > > Real quick stuff, i'd say, from both sides :) .... parminder > >> It now says "a multistakeholder endeavour to stimulate more cross-industry and cross-ministry strategic dialogue on ways to strengthen multistakeholder Internet governance ‎and cooperation.” This is a separate track of activity from the NMI/platform for collaborative projects. >> >> http://www.weforum.org/news/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2015-address-new-global-context?news=page >> >> Best >> >> Bill >> >>> On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: >>> >>> "Broad based" and "multilateral" seem to be a contradiction in terms, though possibly this is from a group less concerned with the finer points of igov jargon than most of the existing actors are? >>> >>> They do talk about gender parity, which will be interesting on how they plan to work this into an iGov model. >>> >>> --srs (iPad) >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: "Dave Farber via ip" >>>> Date: 11 October 2014 00:49:59 IST >>>> To: "ip" >>>> Subject: [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet >>>> Reply-To: dave at farber.net >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: "Ram Mohan" >>>> Date: Oct 10, 2014 2:48 PM >>>> Subject: WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet >>>> To: "Dave Farber" >>>> Cc: "Ram Mohan" >>>> >>>> Dave, >>>> >>>> Here is a piece from a press release by the World Economic Forum (WEF) regarding their plan to “build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet” that might be interesting to the IP readership. >>>> >>>> >>>> Excerpt below: >>>> >>>> “The Annual Meeting 2015 will provide a platform for over 50 initiatives that are currently being led by the Forum, with the aim of contributing positive, transformative change to the global agenda, as well as those of industry, business and the world’s regions. These include a public-private initiative to help achieve zero net tropical deforestation caused by key agricultural commodities by 2020; an endeavour to build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet; and the Forum’s Gender Parity Taskforces, which work with governments worldwide to improve economic opportunity for the female half of the population.” >>>> >>>> >>>> -Ram >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Sat Oct 11 21:36:25 2014 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 12:36:25 +1100 Subject: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet In-Reply-To: References: <752BA017-3440-4478-AB88-285C4FEBA813@hserus.net> <64B4A30E-59B7-40CB-941A-7C52CDC66382@gmail.com> <54395F7B.70807@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <5BCD4550870A4D28B01FE22073F16BFD@Toshiba> a beautiful example of multistakeholder coagulation – a state that arrives when too much spin is applied. From: Suresh Ramasubramanian Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:37 AM To: parminder Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; William Drake Subject: Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet Thanks Bill And this is one of those rare occasions where I find myself agreeing with Parminder. So thanks Parminder too. Really quick work. --srs (iPad) On 11-Oct-2014, at 22:18, parminder wrote: On Saturday 11 October 2014 09:49 PM, William Drake wrote: Hi The ill-chosen wording has been pointed out to the WEF and the text has been changed. Real quick stuff, i'd say, from both sides :) .... parminder It now says "a multistakeholder endeavour to stimulate more cross-industry and cross-ministry strategic dialogue on ways to strengthen multistakeholder Internet governance ‎and cooperation.” This is a separate track of activity from the NMI/platform for collaborative projects. http://www.weforum.org/news/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2015-address-new-global-context?news=page Best Bill On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: "Broad based" and "multilateral" seem to be a contradiction in terms, though possibly this is from a group less concerned with the finer points of igov jargon than most of the existing actors are? They do talk about gender parity, which will be interesting on how they plan to work this into an iGov model. --srs (iPad) Begin forwarded message: From: "Dave Farber via ip" Date: 11 October 2014 00:49:59 IST To: "ip" Subject: [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet Reply-To: dave at farber.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Ram Mohan" Date: Oct 10, 2014 2:48 PM Subject: WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet To: "Dave Farber" Cc: "Ram Mohan" Dave, Here is a piece from a press release by the World Economic Forum (WEF) regarding their plan to “build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet” that might be interesting to the IP readership. Excerpt below: “The Annual Meeting 2015 will provide a platform for over 50 initiatives that are currently being led by the Forum, with the aim of contributing positive, transformative change to the global agenda, as well as those of industry, business and the world’s regions. These include a public-private initiative to help achieve zero net tropical deforestation caused by key agricultural commodities by 2020; an endeavour to build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet; and the Forum’s Gender Parity Taskforces, which work with governments worldwide to improve economic opportunity for the female half of the population.” -Ram ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Sat Oct 11 21:53:21 2014 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 07:23:21 +0530 Subject: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet In-Reply-To: <5BCD4550870A4D28B01FE22073F16BFD@Toshiba> References: <752BA017-3440-4478-AB88-285C4FEBA813@hserus.net> <64B4A30E-59B7-40CB-941A-7C52CDC66382@gmail.com> <54395F7B.70807@itforchange.net> <5BCD4550870A4D28B01FE22073F16BFD@Toshiba> Message-ID: <67256847-B5F3-4E87-BC0B-DAE12D7A9549@hserus.net> This huge round the world trip of one igov conf after the other is kind of like a centrifuge :) --srs (iPad) > On 12-Oct-2014, at 07:06, Ian Peter wrote: > > a beautiful example of multistakeholder coagulation – a state that arrives when too much spin is applied. > > > From: Suresh Ramasubramanian > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:37 AM > To: parminder > Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; William Drake > Subject: Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet > > Thanks Bill > > And this is one of those rare occasions where I find myself agreeing with Parminder. So thanks Parminder too. Really quick work. > > --srs (iPad) > >> On 11-Oct-2014, at 22:18, parminder wrote: >> >> >>> On Saturday 11 October 2014 09:49 PM, William Drake wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> The ill-chosen wording has been pointed out to the WEF and the text has been changed. >> >> Real quick stuff, i'd say, from both sides :) .... parminder >> >>> It now says "a multistakeholder endeavour to stimulate more cross-industry and cross-ministry strategic dialogue on ways to strengthen multistakeholder Internet governance ‎and cooperation.” This is a separate track of activity from the NMI/platform for collaborative projects. >>> >>> http://www.weforum.org/news/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2015-address-new-global-context?news=page >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Bill >>> >>>> On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: >>>> >>>> "Broad based" and "multilateral" seem to be a contradiction in terms, though possibly this is from a group less concerned with the finer points of igov jargon than most of the existing actors are? >>>> >>>> They do talk about gender parity, which will be interesting on how they plan to work this into an iGov model. >>>> >>>> --srs (iPad) >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: "Dave Farber via ip" >>>>> Date: 11 October 2014 00:49:59 IST >>>>> To: "ip" >>>>> Subject: [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet >>>>> Reply-To: dave at farber.net >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: "Ram Mohan" >>>>> Date: Oct 10, 2014 2:48 PM >>>>> Subject: WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet >>>>> To: "Dave Farber" >>>>> Cc: "Ram Mohan" >>>>> >>>>> Dave, >>>>> >>>>> Here is a piece from a press release by the World Economic Forum (WEF) regarding their plan to “build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet” that might be interesting to the IP readership. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Excerpt below: >>>>> >>>>> “The Annual Meeting 2015 will provide a platform for over 50 initiatives that are currently being led by the Forum, with the aim of contributing positive, transformative change to the global agenda, as well as those of industry, business and the world’s regions. These include a public-private initiative to help achieve zero net tropical deforestation caused by key agricultural commodities by 2020; an endeavour to build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet; and the Forum’s Gender Parity Taskforces, which work with governments worldwide to improve economic opportunity for the female half of the population.” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Ram >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(apologies for plays on words – a state of normal seriousness will no doubt resume sometime) From: Suresh Ramasubramanian Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 12:53 PM To: Ian Peter Cc: mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; parminder ; William Drake Subject: Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet This huge round the world trip of one igov conf after the other is kind of like a centrifuge :) --srs (iPad) On 12-Oct-2014, at 07:06, Ian Peter wrote: a beautiful example of multistakeholder coagulation – a state that arrives when too much spin is applied. From: Suresh Ramasubramanian Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:37 AM To: parminder Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; William Drake Subject: Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet Thanks Bill And this is one of those rare occasions where I find myself agreeing with Parminder. So thanks Parminder too. Really quick work. --srs (iPad) On 11-Oct-2014, at 22:18, parminder wrote: On Saturday 11 October 2014 09:49 PM, William Drake wrote: Hi The ill-chosen wording has been pointed out to the WEF and the text has been changed. Real quick stuff, i'd say, from both sides :) .... parminder It now says "a multistakeholder endeavour to stimulate more cross-industry and cross-ministry strategic dialogue on ways to strengthen multistakeholder Internet governance ‎and cooperation.” This is a separate track of activity from the NMI/platform for collaborative projects. http://www.weforum.org/news/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2015-address-new-global-context?news=page Best Bill On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: "Broad based" and "multilateral" seem to be a contradiction in terms, though possibly this is from a group less concerned with the finer points of igov jargon than most of the existing actors are? They do talk about gender parity, which will be interesting on how they plan to work this into an iGov model. --srs (iPad) Begin forwarded message: From: "Dave Farber via ip" Date: 11 October 2014 00:49:59 IST To: "ip" Subject: [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet Reply-To: dave at farber.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Ram Mohan" Date: Oct 10, 2014 2:48 PM Subject: WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet To: "Dave Farber" Cc: "Ram Mohan" Dave, Here is a piece from a press release by the World Economic Forum (WEF) regarding their plan to “build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet” that might be interesting to the IP readership. Excerpt below: “The Annual Meeting 2015 will provide a platform for over 50 initiatives that are currently being led by the Forum, with the aim of contributing positive, transformative change to the global agenda, as well as those of industry, business and the world’s regions. These include a public-private initiative to help achieve zero net tropical deforestation caused by key agricultural commodities by 2020; an endeavour to build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet; and the Forum’s Gender Parity Taskforces, which work with governments worldwide to improve economic opportunity for the female half of the population.” -Ram ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Sat Oct 11 22:08:26 2014 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 07:38:26 +0530 Subject: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet In-Reply-To: References: <752BA017-3440-4478-AB88-285C4FEBA813@hserus.net> <64B4A30E-59B7-40CB-941A-7C52CDC66382@gmail.com> <54395F7B.70807@itforchange.net> <5BCD4550870A4D28B01FE22073F16BFD@Toshiba> <67256847-B5F3-4E87-BC0B-DAE12D7A9549@hserus.net> Message-ID: <360946F4-3B30-4921-9D74-8A4E29B8BC2F@hserus.net> Apt. Do have a drink on me whenever we next meet. --srs (iPad) > On 12-Oct-2014, at 07:31, Ian Peter wrote: > > egocentrifuge? > > (apologies for plays on words – a state of normal seriousness will no doubt resume sometime) > > > > From: Suresh Ramasubramanian > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 12:53 PM > To: Ian Peter > Cc: mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; parminder ; William Drake > Subject: Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet > > This huge round the world trip of one igov conf after the other is kind of like a centrifuge :) > > --srs (iPad) > >> On 12-Oct-2014, at 07:06, Ian Peter wrote: >> >> a beautiful example of multistakeholder coagulation – a state that arrives when too much spin is applied. >> >> >> From: Suresh Ramasubramanian >> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:37 AM >> To: parminder >> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; William Drake >> Subject: Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet >> >> Thanks Bill >> >> And this is one of those rare occasions where I find myself agreeing with Parminder. So thanks Parminder too. Really quick work. >> >> --srs (iPad) >> >>> On 11-Oct-2014, at 22:18, parminder wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Saturday 11 October 2014 09:49 PM, William Drake wrote: >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> The ill-chosen wording has been pointed out to the WEF and the text has been changed. >>> >>> Real quick stuff, i'd say, from both sides :) .... parminder >>> >>>> It now says "a multistakeholder endeavour to stimulate more cross-industry and cross-ministry strategic dialogue on ways to strengthen multistakeholder Internet governance ‎and cooperation.” This is a separate track of activity from the NMI/platform for collaborative projects. >>>> >>>> http://www.weforum.org/news/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2015-address-new-global-context?news=page >>>> >>>> Best >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>>>> On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "Broad based" and "multilateral" seem to be a contradiction in terms, though possibly this is from a group less concerned with the finer points of igov jargon than most of the existing actors are? >>>>> >>>>> They do talk about gender parity, which will be interesting on how they plan to work this into an iGov model. >>>>> >>>>> --srs (iPad) >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>>> From: "Dave Farber via ip" >>>>>> Date: 11 October 2014 00:49:59 IST >>>>>> To: "ip" >>>>>> Subject: [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet >>>>>> Reply-To: dave at farber.net >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: "Ram Mohan" >>>>>> Date: Oct 10, 2014 2:48 PM >>>>>> Subject: WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet >>>>>> To: "Dave Farber" >>>>>> Cc: "Ram Mohan" >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave, >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is a piece from a press release by the World Economic Forum (WEF) regarding their plan to “build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet” that might be interesting to the IP readership. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Excerpt below: >>>>>> >>>>>> “The Annual Meeting 2015 will provide a platform for over 50 initiatives that are currently being led by the Forum, with the aim of contributing positive, transformative change to the global agenda, as well as those of industry, business and the world’s regions. These include a public-private initiative to help achieve zero net tropical deforestation caused by key agricultural commodities by 2020; an endeavour to build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet; and the Forum’s Gender Parity Taskforces, which work with governments worldwide to improve economic opportunity for the female half of the population.” >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Ram >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>>> >>>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Sun Oct 12 01:21:28 2014 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 07:21:28 +0200 Subject: [governance] Re: [bestbits] Civil Society Representatives on IGF Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <1D06A7E35B8542F5B9C834280691A8A4@Toshiba> <130FD74C-2369-408C-95B8-4D3E641E9F9A@eff.org> <28B626770ECD454CBA02882E28AE9E34@Toshiba> <543850B5.3010202@eff.org> Message-ID: <543A0FD8.5000302@apc.org> I echo Anja's comments and thank you for the thanks to the outgoing MAG CS members. It is not easy being on the MAG and making a difference :) But some of us did, and, we would not have been able to if not for all the support from civil society people who are not on the MAG but who provide advice and support. So thank you to all those volunteers as well. They know who they are. Anriette On 11/10/2014 11:22, Lorena Jaume-Palasi wrote: > +1 to what Anja says! > > 2014-10-11 10:54 GMT+02:00 Anja Kovacs >: > > This is an absolutely outstanding list of nominees! > > Thank you so much to all candidates for standing, and to the CSCG > for coming up with such an impressive and balanced list of nominees. > > Also many congratulations to all those who have been nominated. If > only we can get UNDESA to finally respect this year civil > society's recommendations, I am sure that we will have a very > strong representation of civil society's interests in the next > year's MAG. It is really heartening to see that we can put forward > such a strong yet varied list of names, and do so in unison. > > Finally, I also wanted to thank the outgoing civil society > representatives, as well as Fatima, for all their hard work in the > MAG over the years. You've been wonderful. > > Warm regards, > Anja > > > On 11 October 2014 03:03, Jeremy Malcolm > wrote: > > The Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group > (CSCG) is pleased to be able to inform you of our > recommendations as regards civil society representation on MAG > 2015. > > As you know, CSCG is a "€œcoalition of coalitions"€ of the > major civil society groups involved in the internet governance > arena and associated areas.(see details below). Our role in > working together is to ensure a co-ordinated civil society > response and conduit when it comes to making civil society > appointments to outside bodies. > > *Nominations for 2015 MAG civil society representatives* > > After each of our coalition members published a Call for > Nominations within their coalition, each member shortlisted > the names from their individual coalition (if necessary) which > would be further considered for endorsement. The CSCG > Nominating Committee considered 29 names short-listed for > final discussion, with the following criteria. > > 1. Past record of active engagement as part of civil society > groups working on internet governance issues, acting or > speaking out assertively on behalf of public interest concerns. > > 2 Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back > to CS networks (including beyond those focused on internet > governance where appropriate) on MAG discussions. > > 3. Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level. > > 4. Willing, available and able to participate effectively and > constructively in the MAG deliberations. > > > > In considering names, our nominating committee firstly > considered the advice from the Secretariat that 10 people > considered to be civil society representatives were ending > their terms this year -€“ an unusually high number on an > annual basis. Accordingly, we have selected 10 names for new > members as outlined below. > > We recommend the following 10 names as the new representatives > for civil society (in alphabetical order). Each will need to > submit a full application with further details pertaining to > their suitability as MAG members. > > *1.* *Sunil Abraham*(India) > > *2.* *Renata Avila*(Guatemala) > > *3.* *Oh Byoungil*(South Korea) > > *4.* *John Dada*(Nigeria) > > *5.* *Avri Doria *(USA) > > *6.* *Stuart Hamilton *(United Kingdom) > > *7.* *Lea Kaspar *(Croatia). > > *8.* *Jak SM Kee*(Malaysia). > > *9.* *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito *(Kenya) > > *10.* *Virginia Paque*(Venezuela) > > We also considered the remaining representatives whose three > year terms have not expired, and we conclude that the only > civil society person whose term has not expired is Fatima > Cambronero (Argentina), We consider Fatima to be an excellent > representative, and have no hesitation in supporting the > continuation of her term of engagement. Accordingly, we also > endorse the continued involvement of *Fatima Cambronero* > (Argentina) as the only remaining civil society representative > carried forward to 2015 MAG. In doing so we note that there > are no other continuing members of MAG who are civil society > representatives. > > In addition to the above names, the CSCG has considered a wide > range of very talented civil society representatives it was > not able to include in its recommendations. We are very > thankful for all the applicants, despite their making our job > much harder, and will advise the Secretariat that, should IGF > require names of suitable and accomplished additional > representatives in providing overall regional balance, we > would be very pleased to provide additional names in > confidence of further civil society people who could make an > outstanding contribution to the 2015 MAG. > > > > We will be in contact with the selected CS representatives > shortly to discuss some brief biographical details for our > letter to the IGF Secretariat, and other details of their > nominations. In the mean time, we thank everyone for their > participation and co-operation in this exercise and believe > that this effort has yielded some outstanding candidates to > represent civil society. > > > > Sincerely > > > > *2015 CSCG MAG Nominating Committee* > > Norbert Bollow, Just Net Coalition representative > > Mawaki Chango, Internet Governance Caucus representative > > Robin Gross, Non Commercial Stakeholders Group representative > > Jeremy Malcolm, Best Bits Coalition representative > > Chat Garcia Ramilo, Association for Progressive > Communications representative > > Ian Peter, Independent Chair > > Note: Virginia Paque (Diplo Foundation) withdrew from > Nominating Committee discussions before nominations were > opened and criteria developed, as she intended to stand as a > candidate. Mandeep Tiwana (Civicus) also did not participate > in the Nominating Committee. > > > > *Member Organisations of Internet Governance Civil Society Co > ordination Group -€“ brief descriptions* > > · Association for Progressive Communications, an > international membership-based network founded in 1990 who > work together in using ICTs to empower and support others to > build strategic communities and promote easy and affordable > access to a free and open internet. > > · Best Bits, a network of civil society organisations > from across the world, who come together to share and > collaborate on individual and joint initiatives in support of > human rights and other broadly shared civil society interests > in Internet governance. > > · Civicus, a global civil society alliance with over > 1000 members in 120 countries > > · Diplo Foundation, which has a focus on assisting > participants from small and developing states to build the > capacity to engage effectively in Internet Governance and > diplomacy. Since 2003, Diploâ€™s Internet Governance Capacity > Building Programme (IGCBP) has involved over 1500 > professionals and activists from 163 states. > > · Internet Governance Caucus, an organisation with > over 200 organisational and individual members founded in 2004 > to specifically address emerging internet governance issues. > > · Just Net Coalition, formed in 2014, a global > coalition with specific interests in democracy, human rights > and social justice. > > · Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group, (NCSG) an > organization of more than 400 non-commercial organizations and > individuals who develop Internet policy through participation > in ICANN's policy development process. NCSG promotes > noncommercial interests in the formulation of ICANN policy > including human rights, academic, development, educational, > and cultural interests. > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net > . > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > > -- > Dr. Anja Kovacs > The Internet Democracy Project > > +91 9899028053 | @anjakovacs > www.internetdemocracy.in > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net . > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits > > > > > -- > > Lorena Jaume-Palasí ∙ Coordinator, Deutsche UN Sektion ∙ Internet > Governance Forum > > Internet & Gesellschaft Co:llaboratory e.V. > > www.intgovforum.de ∙ www.collaboratory.de > ∙ Newsletter > ∙ Facebook > ∙ Twitter ∙Youtube > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit: > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits -- ````````````````````````````````` anriette esterhuysen executive director association for progressive communications po box 29755, melville, 2109, south africa anriette at apc.org www.apc.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mshears at cdt.org Sun Oct 12 02:09:10 2014 From: mshears at cdt.org (Matthew Shears) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 23:09:10 -0700 Subject: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet In-Reply-To: <5BCD4550870A4D28B01FE22073F16BFD@Toshiba> References: <752BA017-3440-4478-AB88-285C4FEBA813@hserus.net> <64B4A30E-59B7-40CB-941A-7C52CDC66382@gmail.com> <54395F7B.70807@itforchange.net> <5BCD4550870A4D28B01FE22073F16BFD@Toshiba> Message-ID: <543A1B06.8000702@cdt.org> Lovely Ian and so true! On 10/11/2014 6:36 PM, Ian Peter wrote: > a beautiful example of multistakeholder coagulation – a state that > arrives when too much spin is applied. > *From:* Suresh Ramasubramanian > *Sent:* Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:37 AM > *To:* parminder > *Cc:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org > ; William Drake > > *Subject:* Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build > multilateral architecture to govern internet > Thanks Bill > And this is one of those rare occasions where I find myself agreeing > with Parminder. So thanks Parminder too. Really quick work. > > --srs (iPad) > > On 11-Oct-2014, at 22:18, parminder > wrote: > >> On Saturday 11 October 2014 09:49 PM, William Drake wrote: >>> Hi >>> The ill-chosen wording has been pointed out to the WEF and the text >>> has been changed. >> >> Real quick stuff, i'd say, from both sides :) .... parminder >> >>> It now says "a multistakeholder endeavour to stimulate more >>> cross-industry and cross-ministry strategic dialogue on ways to >>> strengthen multistakeholder Internet governance ‎and cooperation.” >>> This is a separate track of activity from the NMI/platform for >>> collaborative projects. >>> http://www.weforum.org/news/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2015-address-new-global-context?news=page >>> Best >>> Bill >>> >>> On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> "Broad based" and "multilateral" seem to be a contradiction in >>>> terms, though possibly this is from a group less concerned with the >>>> finer points of igov jargon than most of the existing actors are? >>>> They do talk about gender parity, which will be interesting on how >>>> they plan to work this into an iGov model. >>>> >>>> --srs (iPad) >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> *From:* "Dave Farber via ip" > >>>>> *Date:* 11 October 2014 00:49:59 IST >>>>> *To:* "ip" > >>>>> *Subject:* *[IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral >>>>> architecture to govern internet* >>>>> *Reply-To:* dave at farber.net >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: "Ram Mohan" > >>>>> Date: Oct 10, 2014 2:48 PM >>>>> Subject: WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to >>>>> govern internet >>>>> To: "Dave Farber" > >>>>> Cc: "Ram Mohan" > >>>>> >>>>> Dave, >>>>> >>>>> Here is a piece from a press release >>>>> >>>>> by the World Economic Forum (WEF) regarding their plan to “build a >>>>> broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the >>>>> internet” that might be interesting to the IP readership. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Excerpt below: >>>>> >>>>> “The Annual Meeting 2015 will provide a platform for over 50 >>>>> initiatives that are currently being led by the Forum, with the >>>>> aim of contributing positive, transformative change to the global >>>>> agenda, as well as those of industry, business and the world’s >>>>> regions. These include a public-private initiative to help achieve >>>>> zero net tropical deforestation caused by key agricultural >>>>> commodities by 2020; an endeavour to build a broad-based, >>>>> multilateral global architecture for governing the internet; and >>>>> the Forum’s Gender Parity Taskforces, which work with governments >>>>> worldwide to improve economic opportunity for the female half of >>>>> the population.” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Ram >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [Powered by Listbox] >>>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- Matthew Shears Director - Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) mshears at cdt.org + 44 771 247 2987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ian.peter at ianpeter.com Sun Oct 12 02:27:53 2014 From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 17:27:53 +1100 Subject: [governance] Re: [bestbits] Civil Society Representatives on IGF Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) 2015 In-Reply-To: References: <1D06A7E35B8542F5B9C834280691A8A4@Toshiba><130FD74C-2369-408C-95B8-4D3E641E9F9A@eff.org><28B626770ECD454CBA02882E28AE9E34@Toshiba><543850B5.3010202@eff.org> Message-ID: <962E988D41EA446FBBBDA2820FAA7B66@Toshiba> Thanks Anja for the kind words about the nominations – but also for your thanks to the outgoing representatives, which I am glad has been expressed here. I would like to add thanks particularly to Anriette Esterhuysen, Bill Drake, Izumi Aizu, and Vladimir Radunovic, who I think were the most active of those retiring in feeding back to these networks in recent times. Ian Peter From: Anja Kovacs Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 7:54 PM To: Jeremy Malcolm Cc: mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net Subject: Re: [bestbits] Civil Society Representatives on IGF Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) 2015 This is an absolutely outstanding list of nominees! Thank you so much to all candidates for standing, and to the CSCG for coming up with such an impressive and balanced list of nominees. Also many congratulations to all those who have been nominated. If only we can get UNDESA to finally respect this year civil society's recommendations, I am sure that we will have a very strong representation of civil society's interests in the next year's MAG. It is really heartening to see that we can put forward such a strong yet varied list of names, and do so in unison. Finally, I also wanted to thank the outgoing civil society representatives, as well as Fatima, for all their hard work in the MAG over the years. You've been wonderful. Warm regards, Anja On 11 October 2014 03:03, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: The Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group (CSCG) is pleased to be able to inform you of our recommendations as regards civil society representation on MAG 2015. As you know, CSCG is a "coalition of coalitions" of the major civil society groups involved in the internet governance arena and associated areas.(see details below). Our role in working together is to ensure a co-ordinated civil society response and conduit when it comes to making civil society appointments to outside bodies. Nominations for 2015 MAG civil society representatives After each of our coalition members published a Call for Nominations within their coalition, each member shortlisted the names from their individual coalition (if necessary) which would be further considered for endorsement. The CSCG Nominating Committee considered 29 names short-listed for final discussion, with the following criteria. 1. Past record of active engagement as part of civil society groups working on internet governance issues, acting or speaking out assertively on behalf of public interest concerns. 2 Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS networks (including beyond those focused on internet governance where appropriate) on MAG discussions. 3. Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level. 4. Willing, available and able to participate effectively and constructively in the MAG deliberations. In considering names, our nominating committee firstly considered the advice from the Secretariat that 10 people considered to be civil society representatives were ending their terms this year - an unusually high number on an annual basis. Accordingly, we have selected 10 names for new members as outlined below. We recommend the following 10 names as the new representatives for civil society (in alphabetical order). Each will need to submit a full application with further details pertaining to their suitability as MAG members. 1. Sunil Abraham (India) 2. Renata Avila (Guatemala) 3. Oh Byoungil (South Korea) 4. John Dada (Nigeria) 5. Avri Doria (USA) 6. Stuart Hamilton (United Kingdom) 7. Lea Kaspar (Croatia). 8. Jak SM Kee (Malaysia). 9. Ephraim Percy Kenyanito (Kenya) 10. Virginia Paque (Venezuela) We also considered the remaining representatives whose three year terms have not expired, and we conclude that the only civil society person whose term has not expired is Fatima Cambronero (Argentina), We consider Fatima to be an excellent representative, and have no hesitation in supporting the continuation of her term of engagement. Accordingly, we also endorse the continued involvement of Fatima Cambronero (Argentina) as the only remaining civil society representative carried forward to 2015 MAG. In doing so we note that there are no other continuing members of MAG who are civil society representatives. In addition to the above names, the CSCG has considered a wide range of very talented civil society representatives it was not able to include in its recommendations. We are very thankful for all the applicants, despite their making our job much harder, and will advise the Secretariat that, should IGF require names of suitable and accomplished additional representatives in providing overall regional balance, we would be very pleased to provide additional names in confidence of further civil society people who could make an outstanding contribution to the 2015 MAG. We will be in contact with the selected CS representatives shortly to discuss some brief biographical details for our letter to the IGF Secretariat, and other details of their nominations. In the mean time, we thank everyone for their participation and co-operation in this exercise and believe that this effort has yielded some outstanding candidates to represent civil society. Sincerely 2015 CSCG MAG Nominating Committee Norbert Bollow, Just Net Coalition representative Mawaki Chango, Internet Governance Caucus representative Robin Gross, Non Commercial Stakeholders Group representative Jeremy Malcolm, Best Bits Coalition representative Chat Garcia Ramilo, Association for Progressive Communications representative Ian Peter, Independent Chair Note: Virginia Paque (Diplo Foundation) withdrew from Nominating Committee discussions before nominations were opened and criteria developed, as she intended to stand as a candidate. Mandeep Tiwana (Civicus) also did not participate in the Nominating Committee. Member Organisations of Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group - brief descriptions · Association for Progressive Communications, an international membership-based network founded in 1990 who work together in using ICTs to empower and support others to build strategic communities and promote easy and affordable access to a free and open internet. · Best Bits, a network of civil society organisations from across the world, who come together to share and collaborate on individual and joint initiatives in support of human rights and other broadly shared civil society interests in Internet governance. · Civicus, a global civil society alliance with over 1000 members in 120 countries · Diplo Foundation, which has a focus on assisting participants from small and developing states to build the capacity to engage effectively in Internet Governance and diplomacy. Since 2003, Diploâs Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme (IGCBP) has involved over 1500 professionals and activists from 163 states. · Internet Governance Caucus, an organisation with over 200 organisational and individual members founded in 2004 to specifically address emerging internet governance issues. · Just Net Coalition, formed in 2014, a global coalition with specific interests in democracy, human rights and social justice. · Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group, (NCSG) an organization of more than 400 non-commercial organizations and individuals who develop Internet policy through participation in ICANN's policy development process. NCSG promotes noncommercial interests in the formulation of ICANN policy including human rights, academic, development, educational, and cultural interests. ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Sun Oct 12 02:59:46 2014 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 08:59:46 +0200 Subject: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet In-Reply-To: <543A1B06.8000702@cdt.org> References: <752BA017-3440-4478-AB88-285C4FEBA813@hserus.net> <64B4A30E-59B7-40CB-941A-7C52CDC66382@gmail.com> <54395F7B.70807@itforchange.net> <5BCD4550870A4D28B01FE22073F16BFD@Toshiba> <543A1B06.8000702@cdt.org> Message-ID: <0bdd01cfe5ea$1c7e4920$557adb60$@gmail.com> Not to speak of multistakeholderist constipation when too much effort is being applied for too little useful output. M From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Shears Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:09 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Ian Peter Subject: Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet Lovely Ian and so true! On 10/11/2014 6:36 PM, Ian Peter wrote: a beautiful example of multistakeholder coagulation – a state that arrives when too much spin is applied. From: Suresh Ramasubramanian Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:37 AM To: parminder Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; William Drake Subject: Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet Thanks Bill And this is one of those rare occasions where I find myself agreeing with Parminder. So thanks Parminder too. Really quick work. --srs (iPad) On 11-Oct-2014, at 22:18, parminder wrote: On Saturday 11 October 2014 09:49 PM, William Drake wrote: Hi The ill-chosen wording has been pointed out to the WEF and the text has been changed. Real quick stuff, i'd say, from both sides :) .... parminder It now says "a multistakeholder endeavour to stimulate more cross-industry and cross-ministry strategic dialogue on ways to strengthen multistakeholder Internet governance ‎and cooperation.” This is a separate track of activity from the NMI/platform for collaborative projects. http://www.weforum.org/news/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2015-address-new-global-context?news=page Best Bill On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: "Broad based" and "multilateral" seem to be a contradiction in terms, though possibly this is from a group less concerned with the finer points of igov jargon than most of the existing actors are? They do talk about gender parity, which will be interesting on how they plan to work this into an iGov model. --srs (iPad) Begin forwarded message: From: "Dave Farber via ip" Date: 11 October 2014 00:49:59 IST To: "ip" Subject: [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet Reply-To: dave at farber.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Ram Mohan" Date: Oct 10, 2014 2:48 PM Subject: WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet To: "Dave Farber" Cc: "Ram Mohan" Dave, Here is a piece from a press release by the World Economic Forum (WEF) regarding their plan to “build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet” that might be interesting to the IP readership. Excerpt below: “The Annual Meeting 2015 will provide a platform for over 50 initiatives that are currently being led by the Forum, with the aim of contributing positive, transformative change to the global agenda, as well as those of industry, business and the world’s regions. These include a public-private initiative to help achieve zero net tropical deforestation caused by key agricultural commodities by 2020; an endeavour to build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for governing the internet; and the Forum’s Gender Parity Taskforces, which work with governments worldwide to improve economic opportunity for the female half of the population.” -Ram ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t _____ ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- Matthew Shears Director - Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) mshears at cdt.org + 44 771 247 2987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Guru On Sunday 12 October 2014 12:29 PM, michael gurstein wrote: > > Not to speak of multistakeholderist constipation when too much effort > is being applied for too little useful output. > > M > > *From:*governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of *Matthew > Shears > *Sent:* Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:09 AM > *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Ian Peter > *Subject:* Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build > multilateral architecture to govern internet > > Lovely Ian and so true! > > On 10/11/2014 6:36 PM, Ian Peter wrote: > > a beautiful example of multistakeholder coagulation – a state that > arrives when too much spin is applied. > > *From:*Suresh Ramasubramanian > > *Sent:*Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:37 AM > > *To:*parminder > > *Cc:*governance at lists.igcaucus.org > ; William Drake > > > *Subject:*Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build > multilateral architecture to govern internet > > Thanks Bill > > And this is one of those rare occasions where I find myself > agreeing with Parminder. So thanks Parminder too. Really quick work. > > --srs (iPad) > > > On 11-Oct-2014, at 22:18, parminder > wrote: > > On Saturday 11 October 2014 09:49 PM, William Drake wrote: > > Hi > > The ill-chosen wording has been pointed out to the WEF and > the text has been changed. > > > Real quick stuff, i'd say, from both sides :) .... parminder > > > It now says "a multistakeholder endeavour to stimulate more > cross-industry and cross-ministry strategic dialogue on ways > to strengthen multistakeholder Internet governance ‎and > cooperation.” This is a separate track of activity from the > NMI/platform for collaborative projects. > > http://www.weforum.org/news/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2015-address-new-global-context?news=page > > Best > > Bill > > On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian > > wrote: > > > > "Broad based" and "multilateral" seem to be a contradiction in > terms, though possibly this is from a group less concerned > with the finer points of igov jargon than most of the existing > actors are? > > They do talk about gender parity, which will be interesting on > how they plan to work this into an iGov model. > > --srs (iPad) > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:*"Dave Farber via ip" > > *Date:* 11 October 2014 00:49:59 IST > *To:* "ip" > > *Subject:* *[IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral > architecture to govern internet* > *Reply-To:* dave at farber.net > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Ram Mohan" > > Date: Oct 10, 2014 2:48 PM > Subject: WEF says it plans to build multilateral > architecture to govern internet > To: "Dave Farber" > > Cc: "Ram Mohan" > > > Dave, > > Here is a piece from a press release > > by the World Economic Forum (WEF) regarding their plan to > “build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for > governing the internet” that might be interesting to the > IP readership. > > > Excerpt below: > > “The Annual Meeting 2015 will provide a platform for over > 50 initiatives that are currently being led by the Forum, > with the aim of contributing positive, transformative > change to the global agenda, as well as those of industry, > business and the world’s regions. These include a > public-private initiative to help achieve zero net > tropical deforestation caused by key agricultural > commodities by 2020; an endeavour to build a broad-based, > multilateral global architecture for governing the > internet; and the Forum’s Gender Parity Taskforces, which > work with governments worldwide to improve economic > opportunity for the female half of the population.” > > > -Ram > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > -- > Matthew Shears > Director - Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) > mshears at cdt.org > + 44 771 247 2987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: A very good choice. Congratulations everyone. Deirdre On 11 October 2014 17:51, Fatima Cambronero wrote: > Dear All, > > Thanks for this information. > I also want to thank you all for continuing to support me in this role of > MAG member as civil society representative. > I will do my best to represent our interests. > Congratulations to all the colleagues selected! > > Best Regards, > Fatima > > > 2014-10-10 22:17 GMT-03:00 Suresh Ramasubramanian : > > This is among the best slates of mag nominations I have seen in the recent >> past. Congratulations to all concerned and thanks to the nomcom. >> >> --srs (iPad) >> >> On 11-Oct-2014, at 03:18, Mawaki Chango wrote: >> >> The Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group (CSCG) is >> pleased to be able to inform you of our recommendations as regards civil >> society representation on MAG 2015. >> >> As you know, CSCG is a “coalition of coalitions” of the major civil >> society groups involved in the internet governance arena and associated >> areas.(see details below). Our role in working together is to ensure a >> co-ordinated civil society response and conduit when it comes to making >> civil society appointments to outside bodies. >> >> *Nominations for 2015 MAG civil society representatives* >> >> After each of our coalition members published a Call for Nominations >> within their coalition, each member shortlisted the names from their >> individual coalition (if necessary) which would be further considered for >> endorsement. The CSCG Nominating Committee considered 29 names >> short-listed for final discussion, with the following criteria. >> >> 1. Past record of active engagement as part of civil society groups >> working on internet governance issues, acting or speaking out assertively >> on behalf of public interest concerns. >> >> 2 Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS >> networks (including beyond those focused on internet governance where >> appropriate) on MAG discussions. >> >> 3. Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level. >> >> 4. Willing, available and able to participate effectively and >> constructively in the MAG deliberations. >> >> >> >> In considering names, our nominating committee firstly considered the >> advice from the Secretariat that 10 people considered to be civil society >> representatives were ending their terms this year – an unusually high >> number on an annual basis. Accordingly, we have selected 10 names for new >> members as outlined below. >> >> We recommend the following 10 names as the new representatives for civil >> society (in alphabetical order). Each will need to submit a full >> application with further details pertaining to their suitability as MAG >> members. >> >> *1.* *Sunil Abraham* (India) >> >> *2.* *Renata Avila* (Guatemala) >> >> *3.* *Oh Byoungil* (South Korea) >> >> *4.* *John Dada* (Nigeria) >> >> *5.* *Avri Doria *(USA) >> >> *6.* *Stuart Hamilton *(United Kingdom) >> >> *7.* *Lea Kaspar *(Croatia). >> >> *8.* *Jak SM Kee* (Malaysia). >> >> *9.* *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito *(Kenya) >> >> *10.* *Virginia Paque* (Venezuela) >> >> We also considered the remaining representatives whose three year terms >> have not expired, and we conclude that the only civil society person whose >> term has not expired is Fatima Cambronero (Argentina), We consider Fatima >> to be an excellent representative, and have no hesitation in supporting the >> continuation of her term of engagement. Accordingly, we also endorse the >> continued involvement of *Fatima Cambronero* (Argentina) as the only >> remaining civil society representative carried forward to 2015 MAG. In >> doing so we note that there are no other continuing members of MAG who are >> civil society representatives. >> >> In addition to the above names, the CSCG has considered a wide range of >> very talented civil society representatives it was not able to include in >> its recommendations. We are very thankful for all the applicants, despite >> their making our job much harder, and will advise the Secretariat that, >> should IGF require names of suitable and accomplished additional >> representatives in providing overall regional balance, we would be very >> pleased to provide additional names in confidence of further civil society >> people who could make an outstanding contribution to the 2015 MAG. >> >> >> >> We will be in contact with the selected CS representatives shortly to >> discuss some brief biographical details for our letter to the IGF >> Secretariat, and other details of their nominations. In the mean time, we >> thank everyone for their participation and co-operation in this exercise >> and believe that this effort has yielded some outstanding candidates to >> represent civil society. >> >> >> >> Sincerely >> >> >> >> *2015 CSCG MAG Nominating Committee* >> >> Norbert Bollow, Just Net Coalition representative >> >> Mawaki Chango, Internet Governance Caucus representative >> >> Robin Gross, Non Commercial Stakeholders Group representative >> >> Jeremy Malcolm, Best Bits Coalition representative >> >> Chat Garcia Ramilo, Association for Progressive >> Communications representative >> >> Ian Peter, Independent Chair >> >> Note: Virginia Paque (Diplo Foundation) withdrew from Nominating >> Committee discussions before nominations were opened and criteria >> developed, as she intended to stand as a candidate. Mandeep Tiwana >> (Civicus) also did not participate in the Nominating Committee. >> >> >> >> *Member Organisations of Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination >> Group – brief descriptions* >> >> · Association for Progressive Communications, an international >> membership-based network founded in 1990 who work together in using ICTs to >> empower and support others to build strategic communities and promote easy >> and affordable access to a free and open internet. >> >> · Best Bits, a network of civil society organisations from >> across the world, who come together to share and collaborate on individual >> and joint initiatives in support of human rights and other broadly shared >> civil society interests in Internet governance. >> >> · Civicus, a global civil society alliance with over 1000 >> members in 120 countries >> >> · Diplo Foundation, which has a focus on assisting participants >> from small and developing states to build the capacity to engage >> effectively in Internet Governance and diplomacy. Since 2003, Diplo’s >> Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme (IGCBP) has involved over >> 1500 professionals and activists from 163 states. >> >> · Internet Governance Caucus, an organisation with over 200 >> organisational and individual members founded in 2004 to specifically >> address emerging internet governance issues. >> >> · Just Net Coalition, formed in 2014, a global coalition with >> specific interests in democracy, human rights and social justice. >> >> · Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group, (NCSG) an organization of >> more than 400 non-commercial organizations and individuals who develop >> Internet policy through participation in ICANN's policy development >> process. NCSG promotes noncommercial interests in the formulation of ICANN >> policy including human rights, academic, development, educational, and >> cultural interests. >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > *Fatima Cambronero* > Abogada-Argentina > > Phone: +54 9351 5282 668 > Twitter: @facambronero > Skype: fatima.cambronero > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From suresh at hserus.net Sun Oct 12 08:38:45 2014 From: suresh at hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 18:08:45 +0530 Subject: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral architecture to govern internet In-Reply-To: <543A626B.4080806@ITforChange.net> References: <752BA017-3440-4478-AB88-285C4FEBA813@hserus.net> <64B4A30E-59B7-40CB-941A-7C52CDC66382@gmail.com> <54395F7B.70807@itforchange.net> <5BCD4550870A4D28B01FE22073F16BFD@Toshiba> <543A1B06.8000702@cdt.org> <0bdd01cfe5ea$1c7e4920$557adb60$@gmail.com> <543A626B.4080806@ITforChange.net> Message-ID: <149045e2880.27e9.4f968dcf8ecd56c9cb8acab6370fcfe0@hserus.net> The too much effort tends to produce acute verbal diarrhea to be frank, or as they keep saying in game of thrones, 'words are wind' Crudities aside, I have long looked for places and groups that actually take presentation decks and position papers, and turn them into on the ground implementations. I keep not finding them except in very rare cases. On 12 October 2014 4:44:37 pm Guru wrote: > slight change > > "multistakeholderist constipation when too much effort is being applied > to ensure too little useful output." > > Guru > > On Sunday 12 October 2014 12:29 PM, michael gurstein wrote: > > > > Not to speak of multistakeholderist constipation when too much effort > > is being applied for too little useful output. > > > > M > > > > *From:*governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of *Matthew > > Shears > > *Sent:* Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:09 AM > > *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Ian Peter > > *Subject:* Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build > > multilateral architecture to govern internet > > > > Lovely Ian and so true! > > > > On 10/11/2014 6:36 PM, Ian Peter wrote: > > > > a beautiful example of multistakeholder coagulation – a state that > > arrives when too much spin is applied. > > > > *From:*Suresh Ramasubramanian > > > > *Sent:*Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:37 AM > > > > *To:*parminder > > > > *Cc:*governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > ; William Drake > > > > > > *Subject:*Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to build > > multilateral architecture to govern internet > > > > Thanks Bill > > > > And this is one of those rare occasions where I find myself > > agreeing with Parminder. So thanks Parminder too. Really quick work. > > > > --srs (iPad) > > > > > > On 11-Oct-2014, at 22:18, parminder > > wrote: > > > > On Saturday 11 October 2014 09:49 PM, William Drake wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > The ill-chosen wording has been pointed out to the WEF and > > the text has been changed. > > > > > > Real quick stuff, i'd say, from both sides :) .... parminder > > > > > > It now says "a multistakeholder endeavour to stimulate more > > cross-industry and cross-ministry strategic dialogue on ways > > to strengthen multistakeholder Internet governance ‎and > > cooperation.” This is a separate track of activity from the > > NMI/platform for collaborative projects. > > > > > http://www.weforum.org/news/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2015-address-new-global-context?news=page > > > > Best > > > > Bill > > > > On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > "Broad based" and "multilateral" seem to be a contradiction in > > terms, though possibly this is from a group less concerned > > with the finer points of igov jargon than most of the existing > > actors are? > > > > They do talk about gender parity, which will be interesting on > > how they plan to work this into an iGov model. > > > > --srs (iPad) > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > *From:*"Dave Farber via ip" > > > > *Date:* 11 October 2014 00:49:59 IST > > *To:* "ip" > > > *Subject:* *[IP] WEF says it plans to build multilateral > > architecture to govern internet* > > *Reply-To:* dave at farber.net > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: "Ram Mohan" > > > > Date: Oct 10, 2014 2:48 PM > > Subject: WEF says it plans to build multilateral > > architecture to govern internet > > To: "Dave Farber" > > > Cc: "Ram Mohan" > > > > > > Dave, > > > > Here is a piece from a press release > > > > > by the World Economic Forum (WEF) regarding their plan to > > “build a broad-based, multilateral global architecture for > > governing the internet” that might be interesting to the > > IP readership. > > > > > > Excerpt below: > > > > “The Annual Meeting 2015 will provide a platform for over > > 50 initiatives that are currently being led by the Forum, > > with the aim of contributing positive, transformative > > change to the global agenda, as well as those of industry, > > business and the world’s regions. These include a > > public-private initiative to help achieve zero net > > tropical deforestation caused by key agricultural > > commodities by 2020; an endeavour to build a broad-based, > > multilateral global architecture for governing the > > internet; and the Forum’s Gender Parity Taskforces, which > > work with governments worldwide to improve economic > > opportunity for the female half of the population.” > > > > > > -Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > > > > -- > > Matthew Shears > > Director - Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) > > mshears at cdt.org > > + 44 771 247 2987 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: I believe Fatima is doing a GREAT job as part of this team for our region! Glad she will continue to do it. Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 From: Fatima Cambronero Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , Fatima Cambronero Date: Saturday, October 11, 2014 at 18:51 To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , Suresh Ramasubramanian Cc: Mawaki Chango Subject: Re: [governance] Civil Society Representatives on IGF Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) 2015 Dear All, Thanks for this information. I also want to thank you all for continuing to support me in this role of MAG member as civil society representative. I will do my best to represent our interests. Congratulations to all the colleagues selected! Best Regards, Fatima 2014-10-10 22:17 GMT-03:00 Suresh Ramasubramanian : > This is among the best slates of mag nominations I have seen in the recent > past. Congratulations to all concerned and thanks to the nomcom. > > --srs (iPad) > > On 11-Oct-2014, at 03:18, Mawaki Chango wrote: > >> The Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group (CSCG) is pleased >> to be able to inform you of our recommendations as regards civil society >> representation on MAG 2015. >> As you know, CSCG is a ³coalition of coalitions² of the major civil society >> groups involved in the internet governance arena and associated areas.(see >> details below). Our role in working together is to ensure a co-ordinated >> civil society response and conduit when it comes to making civil society >> appointments to outside bodies. >> Nominations for 2015 MAG civil society representatives >> After each of our coalition members published a Call for Nominations within >> their coalition, each member shortlisted the names from their individual >> coalition (if necessary) which would be further considered for endorsement. >> The CSCG Nominating Committee considered 29 names short-listed for final >> discussion, with the following criteria. >> 1. Past record of active engagement as part of civil society groups working >> on internet governance issues, acting or speaking out assertively on behalf >> of public interest concerns. >> >> 2 Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS networks >> (including beyond those focused on internet governance where appropriate) on >> MAG discussions. >> >> 3. Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level. >> >> 4. Willing, available and able to participate effectively and constructively >> in the MAG deliberations. >> >> In considering names, our nominating committee firstly considered the advice >> from the Secretariat that 10 people considered to be civil society >> representatives were ending their terms this year an unusually high number >> on an annual basis. Accordingly, we have selected 10 names for new members as >> outlined below. >> We recommend the following 10 names as the new representatives for civil >> society (in alphabetical order). Each will need to submit a full application >> with further details pertaining to their suitability as MAG members. >> 1. Sunil Abraham (India) >> 2. Renata Avila (Guatemala) >> 3. Oh Byoungil (South Korea) >> 4. John Dada (Nigeria) >> 5. Avri Doria (USA) >> 6. Stuart Hamilton (United Kingdom) >> 7. Lea Kaspar (Croatia). >> 8. Jak SM Kee (Malaysia). >> 9. Ephraim Percy Kenyanito (Kenya) >> 10. Virginia Paque (Venezuela) >> We also considered the remaining representatives whose three year terms have >> not expired, and we conclude that the only civil society person whose term >> has not expired is Fatima Cambronero (Argentina), We consider Fatima to be an >> excellent representative, and have no hesitation in supporting the >> continuation of her term of engagement. Accordingly, we also endorse the >> continued involvement of Fatima Cambronero (Argentina) as the only remaining >> civil society representative carried forward to 2015 MAG. In doing so we note >> that there are no other continuing members of MAG who are civil society >> representatives. >> In addition to the above names, the CSCG has considered a wide range of very >> talented civil society representatives it was not able to include in its >> recommendations. We are very thankful for all the applicants, despite their >> making our job much harder, and will advise the Secretariat that, should IGF >> require names of suitable and accomplished additional representatives in >> providing overall regional balance, we would be very pleased to provide >> additional names in confidence of further civil society people who could make >> an outstanding contribution to the 2015 MAG. >> >> We will be in contact with the selected CS representatives shortly to discuss >> some brief biographical details for our letter to the IGF Secretariat, and >> other details of their nominations. In the mean time, we thank everyone for >> their participation and co-operation in this exercise and believe that this >> effort has yielded some outstanding candidates to represent civil society. >> >> Sincerely >> >> 2015 CSCG MAG Nominating Committee >> Norbert Bollow, Just Net Coalition representative >> Mawaki Chango, Internet Governance Caucus representative >> Robin Gross, Non Commercial Stakeholders Group representative >> Jeremy Malcolm, Best Bits Coalition representative >> Chat Garcia Ramilo, Association for Progressive Communications >> representative >> Ian Peter, Independent Chair >> Note: Virginia Paque (Diplo Foundation) withdrew from Nominating Committee >> discussions before nominations were opened and criteria developed, as she >> intended to stand as a candidate. Mandeep Tiwana (Civicus) also did not >> participate in the Nominating Committee. >> >> Member Organisations of Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group >> brief descriptions >> · Association for Progressive Communications, an international >> membership-based network founded in 1990 who work together in using ICTs to >> empower and support others to build strategic communities and promote easy >> and affordable access to a free and open internet. >> · Best Bits, a network of civil society organisations from across the >> world, who come together to share and collaborate on individual and joint >> initiatives in support of human rights and other broadly shared civil society >> interests in Internet governance. >> · Civicus, a global civil society alliance with over 1000 members in >> 120 countries >> · Diplo Foundation, which has a focus on assisting participants from >> small and developing states to build the capacity to engage effectively in >> Internet Governance and diplomacy. Since 2003, Diplo¹s Internet Governance >> Capacity Building Programme (IGCBP) has involved over 1500 professionals and >> activists from 163 states. >> · Internet Governance Caucus, an organisation with over 200 >> organisational and individual members founded in 2004 to specifically address >> emerging internet governance issues. >> · Just Net Coalition, formed in 2014, a global coalition with >> specific interests in democracy, human rights and social justice. >> · Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group, (NCSG) an organization of more >> than 400 non-commercial organizations and individuals who develop Internet >> policy through participation in ICANN's policy development process. NCSG >> promotes noncommercial interests in the formulation of ICANN policy including >> human rights, academic, development, educational, and cultural interests. >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- Fatima Cambronero Abogada-Argentina Phone: +54 9351 5282 668 Twitter: @facambronero Skype: fatima.cambronero ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Thanks to all nominees, and to the nomcom for their work. I am humbled to be part of such an outstanding list, and to have the CSCG endorsement. Good luck to everyone--whoever (hopefully all) is ultimately chose for the MAG will be excellent, and will have our support and collaboration. High energy to all, Ginger On 12 October 2014 10:14, Vanda Scartezini wrote: > I believe Fatima is doing a GREAT job as part of this team for our region! > Glad she will continue to do it. > *Vanda Scartezini* > *Polo Consultores Associados* > *Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004* > *01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil* > *Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 <%2B55%2011%203266.6253>* > *Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 <%2B%2055%2011%2098181.1464> * > > > > > From: Fatima Cambronero > Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , > Fatima Cambronero > Date: Saturday, October 11, 2014 at 18:51 > To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , > Suresh Ramasubramanian > Cc: Mawaki Chango > Subject: Re: [governance] Civil Society Representatives on IGF > Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) 2015 > > Dear All, > > Thanks for this information. > I also want to thank you all for continuing to support me in this role of > MAG member as civil society representative. > I will do my best to represent our interests. > Congratulations to all the colleagues selected! > > Best Regards, > Fatima > > > 2014-10-10 22:17 GMT-03:00 Suresh Ramasubramanian : > >> This is among the best slates of mag nominations I have seen in the >> recent past. Congratulations to all concerned and thanks to the nomcom. >> >> --srs (iPad) >> >> On 11-Oct-2014, at 03:18, Mawaki Chango wrote: >> >> The Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group (CSCG) is >> pleased to be able to inform you of our recommendations as regards civil >> society representation on MAG 2015. >> >> As you know, CSCG is a “coalition of coalitions” of the major civil >> society groups involved in the internet governance arena and associated >> areas.(see details below). Our role in working together is to ensure a >> co-ordinated civil society response and conduit when it comes to making >> civil society appointments to outside bodies. >> >> *Nominations for 2015 MAG civil society representatives* >> >> After each of our coalition members published a Call for Nominations >> within their coalition, each member shortlisted the names from their >> individual coalition (if necessary) which would be further considered for >> endorsement. The CSCG Nominating Committee considered 29 names >> short-listed for final discussion, with the following criteria. >> >> 1. Past record of active engagement as part of civil society groups >> working on internet governance issues, acting or speaking out assertively >> on behalf of public interest concerns. >> >> 2 Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS >> networks (including beyond those focused on internet governance where >> appropriate) on MAG discussions. >> >> 3. Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level. >> >> 4. Willing, available and able to participate effectively and >> constructively in the MAG deliberations. >> >> >> >> In considering names, our nominating committee firstly considered the >> advice from the Secretariat that 10 people considered to be civil society >> representatives were ending their terms this year – an unusually high >> number on an annual basis. Accordingly, we have selected 10 names for new >> members as outlined below. >> >> We recommend the following 10 names as the new representatives for civil >> society (in alphabetical order). Each will need to submit a full >> application with further details pertaining to their suitability as MAG >> members. >> >> *1.* *Sunil Abraham* (India) >> >> *2.* *Renata Avila* (Guatemala) >> >> *3.* *Oh Byoungil* (South Korea) >> >> *4.* *John Dada* (Nigeria) >> >> *5.* *Avri Doria *(USA) >> >> *6.* *Stuart Hamilton *(United Kingdom) >> >> *7.* *Lea Kaspar *(Croatia). >> >> *8.* *Jak SM Kee* (Malaysia). >> >> *9.* *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito *(Kenya) >> >> *10.* *Virginia Paque* (Venezuela) >> >> We also considered the remaining representatives whose three year terms >> have not expired, and we conclude that the only civil society person whose >> term has not expired is Fatima Cambronero (Argentina), We consider Fatima >> to be an excellent representative, and have no hesitation in supporting the >> continuation of her term of engagement. Accordingly, we also endorse the >> continued involvement of *Fatima Cambronero* (Argentina) as the only >> remaining civil society representative carried forward to 2015 MAG. In >> doing so we note that there are no other continuing members of MAG who are >> civil society representatives. >> >> In addition to the above names, the CSCG has considered a wide range of >> very talented civil society representatives it was not able to include in >> its recommendations. We are very thankful for all the applicants, despite >> their making our job much harder, and will advise the Secretariat that, >> should IGF require names of suitable and accomplished additional >> representatives in providing overall regional balance, we would be very >> pleased to provide additional names in confidence of further civil society >> people who could make an outstanding contribution to the 2015 MAG. >> >> >> >> We will be in contact with the selected CS representatives shortly to >> discuss some brief biographical details for our letter to the IGF >> Secretariat, and other details of their nominations. In the mean time, we >> thank everyone for their participation and co-operation in this exercise >> and believe that this effort has yielded some outstanding candidates to >> represent civil society. >> >> >> >> Sincerely >> >> >> >> *2015 CSCG MAG Nominating Committee* >> >> Norbert Bollow, Just Net Coalition representative >> >> Mawaki Chango, Internet Governance Caucus representative >> >> Robin Gross, Non Commercial Stakeholders Group representative >> >> Jeremy Malcolm, Best Bits Coalition representative >> >> Chat Garcia Ramilo, Association for Progressive >> Communications representative >> >> Ian Peter, Independent Chair >> >> Note: Virginia Paque (Diplo Foundation) withdrew from Nominating >> Committee discussions before nominations were opened and criteria >> developed, as she intended to stand as a candidate. Mandeep Tiwana >> (Civicus) also did not participate in the Nominating Committee. >> >> >> >> *Member Organisations of Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination >> Group – brief descriptions* >> >> · Association for Progressive Communications, an international >> membership-based network founded in 1990 who work together in using ICTs to >> empower and support others to build strategic communities and promote easy >> and affordable access to a free and open internet. >> >> · Best Bits, a network of civil society organisations from >> across the world, who come together to share and collaborate on individual >> and joint initiatives in support of human rights and other broadly shared >> civil society interests in Internet governance. >> >> · Civicus, a global civil society alliance with over 1000 >> members in 120 countries >> >> · Diplo Foundation, which has a focus on assisting participants >> from small and developing states to build the capacity to engage >> effectively in Internet Governance and diplomacy. Since 2003, Diplo’s >> Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme (IGCBP) has involved over >> 1500 professionals and activists from 163 states. >> >> · Internet Governance Caucus, an organisation with over 200 >> organisational and individual members founded in 2004 to specifically >> address emerging internet governance issues. >> >> · Just Net Coalition, formed in 2014, a global coalition with >> specific interests in democracy, human rights and social justice. >> >> · Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group, (NCSG) an organization of >> more than 400 non-commercial organizations and individuals who develop >> Internet policy through participation in ICANN's policy development >> process. NCSG promotes noncommercial interests in the formulation of ICANN >> policy including human rights, academic, development, educational, and >> cultural interests. >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > *Fatima Cambronero* > Abogada-Argentina > > Phone: +54 9351 5282 668 > Twitter: @facambronero > Skype: fatima.cambronero > > ____________________________________________________________ You received > this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to > find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this > email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ahmed22digital at gmail.com Mon Oct 13 00:22:36 2014 From: ahmed22digital at gmail.com (ahmed eisa) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 07:22:36 +0300 Subject: [governance] ICANN 51 STARTED IN LOS ANGLES USA Message-ID: *Dear friends* *Today is opening ceremony of ICANN 51 in Los Angeles USA for those who are interested to fellow here is the links to * *1- **full schedule* *http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule-full#13oct14 * *2- **daily schedule* *http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule?date=2014-10-12 * *3- **remote participation* *http://meetings.icann.org/remote-participation * *a- **opening ceremony * *http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-welcome * *b- *a discussion on fostering e-commerce and new gTLDs (generic top-level domain names) in the region. *http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-lac-space * *c- *Update on the progress within IANA, Domain Name Services and Industry Engagement, Security, Stability and Resiliency, and the New gTLD Program. *http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-gdd * Ahmed Mahmoud Mohamed Eisa +249123031155 Sudani +249912331155 Zain +249999331155 MTN KHARTOUM alamaraat P.O.BOX 15021 post code 12217 http://www.gedaref.com/ Gedaref digital city organization (GDCO) is a nongovernmental and nonprofit organization (Gedaref Sudan), it is part of the Telecentres movement where ICT is used for community development. GDCO is the winner of information for development award (i4d 2007 awards e-India) for the inclusion of the disabled, GDCO is the winner of i4d 2008 awards for the best innovations at the grassroots Telecentres and the winner of i4d 2009 for the initiatives of civil society for development (e-agriculture project and other e-services).. ..it is the winner of eWorld award 2011. it is the winner of best innovative NGO working on ICT for community development in Sudan. The winner of best album in Telecentre 2011 Philippines .. it the founder of the first Telecentre academy in Africa and middle east and the thirteen in world ..The Digital City of Eindhoven (DSE) Netherlands (the founder and well-known partner of GDCO in Netherlands) donated 750 computers and more than ten projects were established using ICT for community development and one of them is e-agriculture. GDCO & SPEG (foundation of eindhoven volunteers for gedaref projects) started new partnership for community development including people with disability (especially deaf), gedaref university, (faculty of medicine) e-agriculture, SeVO and other project On 13 October 2014 01:04, Ginger Paque wrote: > Thanks to all nominees, and to the nomcom for their work. I am humbled to > be part of such an outstanding list, and to have the CSCG endorsement. Good > luck to everyone--whoever (hopefully all) is ultimately chose for the MAG > will be excellent, and will have our support and collaboration. > > High energy to all, > Ginger > > On 12 October 2014 10:14, Vanda Scartezini wrote: > >> I believe Fatima is doing a GREAT job as part of this team for our >> region! Glad she will continue to do it. >> *Vanda Scartezini* >> *Polo Consultores Associados* >> *Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004* >> *01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil* >> *Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 <%2B55%2011%203266.6253>* >> *Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 <%2B%2055%2011%2098181.1464> * >> >> >> >> >> From: Fatima Cambronero >> Reply-To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , >> Fatima Cambronero