[bestbits] [governance] Fw: [IP] ISOC Board Statement on the Net Mundial Initiative

Jean-Christophe Nothias jeanchristophe.nothias at gmail.com
Mon Nov 17 03:23:40 EST 2014


Agree with Bill on two points.

Ambiguities, lack of clarity...

But one question though: Bill, do you suggest that networks should participate in order for the organizers not to be free to compose the CC however they like? Is that the argument to join?

Best,
JC


Le 17 nov. 2014 à 09:18, William Drake a écrit :

> Hi
> 
> Kathy was very skeptical at the 28 August meeting held at WEF, so it’s no surprise.  At the time her concerns seemed to focus mostly on procedural aspects, the way the whole thing was being teed up, explained and constituted, which was bugging a lot of people.   I think the organizers tried to accommodate some of the push back they received, e.g. by inviting the CSCG to review CS proposals and bless five, but ambiguities remain as we’ve discussed.  
> 
> What the ISOC statement does not do is assess whether the idea of such a platform could be substantively useful.  The case there alas has not been made clearly enough yet either.  I have to admit I don’t quite get ISOC’s statement that "no single, global platform that can serve to coordinate, organize or govern all the Internet issues,” since that clearly is not what’s being proposed.
> 
> In any event, if more networks decide not to participate in providing names the organizers will indeed be free to compose the CC however they like.
> 
> Best
> 
> Bill
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette at wzb.eu> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> ISOC said more or less the same thing in 2005 about the idea of founding an Internet Governance Forum.
>> jeanette
>> 
>> Am 17.11.14 05:04, schrieb Ian Peter:
>>> Note: ISOC is refusing to participate at this stage in WEF NMI initiative
>>> Big development... will be interesting to see responses
>>> *From:* Dave Farber via ip <mailto:ip at listbox.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 2:47 PM
>>> *To:* ip <mailto:ip at listbox.com>
>>> *Subject:* [IP] ISOC Board Statement on the Net Mundial Initiative
>>> 
>>> A must read djf
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "Bob Hinden" <bob.hinden at gmail.com <mailto:bob.hinden at gmail.com>>
>>> Date: Nov 16, 2014 5:30 PM
>>> Subject: [isoc-trustees] ISOC Board Statement on the Net Mundial Initiative
>>> To: "ISOC Board of Trustees" <isoc-trustees at elists.isoc.org
>>> <mailto:isoc-trustees at elists.isoc.org>>
>>> Cc:
>>> 
>>> Attached is the statement that will be on the ISOC web site in 30
>>> minutes or so.
>>> 
>>> Once you see it there, please post it to facebook and tweet it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the very productive meeting yesterday and today!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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