[governance] More revelations to come, says Snowden

[Nyangkwe Agien Aaron]

Jean Claude

Being derogatory to others is Suresh's stock in trade. I was his
target som 7 years ago.
He glows in doing that and it appears to be earning a lot to him

Let him eat his humble pie

Aaron

On 3/21/14, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
> In case it escaped your attention, George Lucas explicitly made the empire
> in Star Wars an allegory for the Nazis, with multiple visual as well as
> character / place cues.   [for all that it was modeled on kurosawa's the
> hidden fortress].
>
> The Star Wars weaponry was in fact all converted from condemned WW1 and WW2
> weapons (mauser and luger pistols, mg42 machine guns, sten guns ..) which
> were being used as props at Elstree studios.  The attack on the Death Star
> was modeled on a movie about the WW 2 dambusters raid.  And then the medal
> scene is a straight nod to Leni Reifenstahl's Triumf de willens.  There is
> plenty of material available with a quick google search.
>
> As for hatred, why - I will admit that I hate the poisonous agenda that
> keeps getting trotted out by some people on this list.
>
> --srs (iPad)
>
>> On 21-Mar-2014, at 14:02, Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal
>> <jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net> wrote:
>>
>> What a lovely comment! Could you please stop throwing your hatred to the
>> list readers, dear Mr. Ramasubramian.
>>
>> Just behave.
>>
>> JC
>>
>> PS: Stormtroopers are famous in the Hollywood series "Star Wars". So why
>> do feel entitled to link Guru's "..." to a nazi endorsement. I know that
>> Vint Cerf loves to quote Star Wars all the time - himself quoting Jedi. So
>> I would say this is rather fair game.
>> <search.jpg>
>>
>>> Le 21 mars 2014 à 09:15, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :
>>>
>>> Stormtroopers eh?   Interesting specialized unit of the Nazi party in WW
>>> 2 (the Sturm Abteilung) and before that, shock troops deployed in
>>> Imperial Germany around the time of WW 1 (stoßtruppen)
>>>
>>> Are you calling the freedom of expression types at wcit nazis, Guru?
>>>
>>> As I recall I got suspended from the list for much the same sort of
>>> reference not so long back, and it would be a consummation devoutly to be
>>> wished, and a remarkable benefit to the list, for you to be ejected as
>>> well.  I would request the co-cos to determine whether this is possible.
>>>
>>> --srs (iPad)
>>>
>>>> On 21-Mar-2014, at 13:34, Guru गुरु <Guru at ITforChange.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The WCIT "Freedom of expression storm troopers" should note, "“More
>>>> communications are being intercepted in America about Americans than
>>>> there are in Russia about Russians, Mr. Snowden said."
>>>> Guru
>>>> More revelations to come, says Snowden
>>>>
>>>> March 20, 2014
>>>>
>>>> The former intelligence contractor Edward Snowden emerged from his
>>>> Russian exile Tuesday in the form of a remotely-controlled robot to
>>>> promise more sensational revelations about U.S. spying programmes.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Snowden’s face appeared on a screen as he manoeuvred the wheeled
>>>> android around a stage at the TED gathering, addressing an audience in
>>>> Vancouver without ever leaving his secret hideaway.
>>>>
>>>> “There are absolutely more revelations to come,” he said. “Some of the
>>>> most important reporting to be done is yet to come.”
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Snowden, a former National Security Agency contractor who has been
>>>> charged in the United States with espionage, dismissed the public debate
>>>> about whether he is a heroic whistleblower or traitor. Instead, he used
>>>> the conference organised by educational non-profit organisation TED
>>>> (“Technology Entertainment Design”), to call for people worldwide to
>>>> fight for privacy and Internet freedom.
>>>>
>>>> Internet creator Tim Berners-Lee briefly joined Mr. Snowden’s interview
>>>> with TED curator Chris Anderson, and came down in the hero camp. When
>>>> Mr. Anderson posed the question to the TED audience — known for famous,
>>>> innovative, and influential attendees — the idea that Mr. Snowden was a
>>>> force for good met with applause. “Hero patriot or traitor; I would say
>>>> I am an American citizen just like anyone else,” Mr. Snowden said. “What
>>>> really matters here is the kind of government we want; the kind of
>>>> Internet we want.” He said he was inspired to pass a huge trove of NSA
>>>> files to reporters when he saw U.S. spying tactics going too far and
>>>> intruding into the private data of millions of Internet and telephone
>>>> customers.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Snowden argued that if he had gone to the U.S. Congress with his
>>>> concerns he would have risked being “buried along with the information.”
>>>> He instead urged the “adversarial press” to challenge government and
>>>> ignite public debate “without putting national security at risk.” He
>>>> argued that the dangers critics have played up regarding disclosure of
>>>> information have not materialised, and insisted that he remains
>>>> comfortable with his decisions. He depicted the NSA’s Prism programme
>>>> for getting user information from Internet firms as a way for the U.S.
>>>> government to “deputise corporate America to do its dirty work.” And he
>>>> blasted a U.S. secret court for seldom rejecting National Security
>>>> Agency requests to compel Internet titans to turn over user data and
>>>> U.S. legislators for showing little oversight.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Snowden urged Internet companies to stand up against online snooping
>>>> by encrypting online activity by default so spies could easily note
>>>> anything from book browsing at Amazon.com to visiting websites.
>>>>
>>>> People should be able to book air travel, order books, make phone calls
>>>> and send text messages without worrying about how it will look to an
>>>> agent of the government, he declared.
>>>>
>>>> “More communications are being intercepted in America about Americans
>>>> than there are in Russia about Russians,” Mr. Snowden said. He argued
>>>> that the NSA was making the U.S., and the world, less safe by lobbying
>>>> for weak standards that could open back doors into online venues or
>>>> services such as online commerce or banking. “Our basic freedoms are not
>>>> a partisan issue,” he said. “It is up to us to protect them; it is up to
>>>> us to preserve the open Internet.” Mr. Snowden endorsed the campaign by
>>>> Berners-Lee for a global Magna Carta laying out values and rights on the
>>>> Internet. “A Magna Carta for the Internet is exactly what we need,” Mr.
>>>> Snowden said.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Anderson said that the NSA had been invited to take part in the TED
>>>> chat with Mr. Snowden but it did not work out “for logistical reasons.”
>>>> — AFP
>>>>
>>>> SOURCE -
>>>> http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-international/more-revelations-to-come-says-snowden/article5807667.ece
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