[discuss] [governance] U.S. to Give Up Oversight of Web Policymaking Body

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

French law was still using the guillotine to execute people till as late as 1977. Just saying. And as for surveillance .. rather tough to teach the DGSE (or rather its predecessor SDECE) anything much, as a quick google of the term 'barbouze' might show.

Do you have any reason OTHER than the nsa's activities to make that claim?  Or claim that any other nation would be better at this? And do remember that line in the bible about motes versus beams in the eye, casting the first stone etc.

--srs (iPad)

> On 17-Mar-2014, at 3:08, Dominique Lacroix <dl at panamo.eu> wrote:
> 
> Le 16/03/14 21:28, Steve Crocker a écrit :
>> [...] The question has already been asked and I’ll ask again.  What is the specific problem about being subject to US law?  As a general matter, rule of law is usually considered one of the U.S.’s very strongest qualities.[...]
> Dear Steve,
> Thanks for your very interesting and clarifying technical comments.
> 
> But about this precise point of trust, a large part of the world could
> consider that US law is good *for US*.
> Because of a bunch of recent laws that extend extraterritoriality and
> allow surveillance.
> And because precisely, the high technical qualities require US lawyers...
> And because the USA are far and strange for a lot of people.
> And because other countries have also good laws.
> 
> All these points feed mistrust.
> Exactly as a mirror: some US laws are fed of mistrust. And some
> practices shew abuses.
> Some of American great analysts themselves say it: the US have been
> making mistakes at least since 10 years.
> 
> So, IMHO, the first question could be: how could we build again some trust?
> I think that, perhaps, chosing one common goal could help. But in order
> to operate, it must be a bit out of the Internet management game.
> And it must include civil society. Not only negociators for trade treaties.
> That was the sense of my group's contribution to NetMundial.
> 
> Sorry if I disturbed. I saw some light and I entered the house ;-)
> 
> @+, best regards, Dominique
> 
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