[governance] IGC's NETMundial Submission

[Roland Perry]

In message 
<144a2107f10.27e9.4f968dcf8ecd56c9cb8acab6370fcfe0 at hserus.net>, at 
19:50:00 on Sat, 8 Mar 2014, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> 
writes
>Funnily enough carriers in india have been slashing International data 
>roaming charges and T-Mobile has post paid packages with free 
>international data roaming.

Completely free of charge, or just at no extra cost compared to domestic 
data?

I can't see how International data roaming could ever sustainably be 
cheaper than the domestic data charges in the country you are roaming 
to. Someone has to pay for the infrastructure there.

>So even that is changing and will change faster as a lot more moves 
>away from traditional phone systems to voip

Mobile networks rely on high voice-call roaming costs too. If they are 
losing international business to voip, it could be a reason for 
competition to reduce the voice call costs.

>On 8 March 2014 4:51:28 PM Roland Perry 
><roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote:
>
>> In message 
>><CACTo+v-NWwCNdae3ks_JF2nLqR97KPiE+OpW=MADtENX8CJWeA at mail.gmail.com>, 
>>at  20:00:17 on Fri, 7 Mar 2014, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> writes
>> >I suspect the proponent means to refer to the level of economic
>> >development of a region or a group pf people, or something along those
>> >lines. Is there a formulation that would make it more acceptable to you
>> >as a "pragmatic aspiration"?
>>
>> I'm fully supportive of removing *artificial* cost barriers that 
>>affect  regions.
>>
>> But I remember when by far the biggest cost of setting up an ISP (and 
>>hence  the biggest cost to my subscribers) in the UK was leasing a 
>>transatlantic  connection to New York. Every sent to or from another 
>>user in the UK went  via New York.
>>
>> For reasons such as this, the *inherent* cost of providing access 
>>differs  enormously depending on the geography and (the point I was 
>>making earlier)  the local loop technology used, even within a 
>>developed country such as the UK.
>>
>> Very approximately, $20 will buy me 1GB of 3G/4G connectivity a 
>>month, or  "unlimited" (in practice up to perhaps 100GB) of landline 
>>connectivity a month.
>>
>> Politics is never going to change that, although politics might one 
>>day  change the fact that if I access the Internet on a different part 
>>of the  *same* company's Pan-European 3G network, I would get only 
>>about 100MB for  my $20 (which is an order of magnitude more data than 
>>I might have got only  a few years ago).
>>
>> >On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Roland Perry
>> <roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote:
>> >  In message <CACTo+v9HopxnZKnuR00n-X21oMq-
>> wgxgRy5CDWL5q_+8Fs7H_g at mail.gmail.com>, at 14:55:15 on Fri, 7 Mar
>> >  2014, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> writes
>> >    6- There must not be discrimination in access and contents due to
>> >>    criteria such as opinion, religion, race, gender, geography,
>> >>    language, or economic resources
>>  >
>> >  If this means that everyone's international 3G roaming charges
>> >  should be the same as buying the cheapest local-SIM available
>> >  anywhere in the world, then I'm sure you will get a great deal of
>> >  support.
>> >
>> >  The only question remaining being "who will break this news to the
>> >  mobile networks".
>>
>> --
>> Roland Perry
>>
>
>
>
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