[governance] Nomination of Parminder

[Guru गुरु]

On 01/09/2014 09:25 PM, Ken Stubbs wrote:
> +1 Sala...
>
> This thread is becoming destructive and
> "off course".   (i.e. 41 posts on this issue in the last 24-30 hrs.)
>

13 are from a single person - Suresh Ramasubramaniam... who should have 
long been suspended from IGC, applying the charter rules, for being a 
troll.

Like Mike I have no way of knowing if he is being paid for continuously, 
consistently attacking one person, many times through ad hominem attacks 
and lies, but there is no doubt in my mind that he with the help of some 
of his friends, have been able to paralyse and make ineffective this 
caucus, which is a far bigger loss for civil society

Guru


> Hopefully we can refocus ... Please..
>
>
>
> On 1/9/2014 8:29 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote:
>> Daniel, Suresh, Michael,
>>
>> Calling a 24 hour time out please! The discussions are not 
>> constructive! It might help to think how our posts and discussions 
>> can help in building up instead of always tearing down. Words are 
>> powerful vehicles. No one is more important than the other, everyone 
>> is equal and whilst we all have the right to freely express 
>> ourselves, we have to exercise some level of restraint.
>>
>> Sala
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2014, at 1:50 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian 
>>> <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Last post out of far too many I've made here.
>>>
>>> 1. I react - mostly to certain people, on certain topics - because 
>>> propaganda, unless countered, if left unchallenged, wins.  As long 
>>> as you have people who, by their own admission, treat this as a 
>>> political exercise, what they do has to, on principle, be strongly 
>>> opposed.
>>>
>>> 2. I agree that these discussions have distracted us from something 
>>> vitally important - actual participation in the process and making 
>>> meaningful contributions. Which is why my first contribution to this 
>>> topic was to endorse Adam's candidature for this nomination.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> --srs (iPad)
>>>
>>>> On 09-Jan-2014, at 18:09, Daniel Pimienta <pimienta at funredes.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Beyond that - are you saying I had a hand in Izumi san not being 
>>>>> co co any longer? Or is this some other individual you have in mind?
>>>> I am obviously refering to Norbert Bollow who resigned in spite the 
>>>> facts many people asked him to reconsider and who was also subject
>>>> of your insisting expressions.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing personal with you as in my large civil society career I 
>>>> have often met people like you whose purpose is to
>>>> discredit any civil society attempt to build something useful; the 
>>>> difference is that in almost all the case civil society was able
>>>> to overcome differences of visions to resist to such permanent 
>>>> agressions (do you realize your are from far the number one poster
>>>> in this list reacting to every single mail and quite often 
>>>> manipulating facts or positions as you did with my last mail?)
>>>> and in this very context there is no such containding consensus 
>>>> (this is why one wonders what interests are using you).
>>>>
>>>> But I suppose we could admit together that what is at stake is much 
>>>> beyond persons (Parminder, Norbert, you or whoever)
>>>> as we all are just  holder of public positions (even sometines 
>>>> stereotypes) and avoid creating a new thread on this personal 
>>>> oriented discussion.
>>>>
>>>> So I wish we could agree to come back to the real stakes and let 
>>>> the diversity express across people without taking fingers pointed 
>>>> as threats.
>>>>
>>>>
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