[governance] For a change an oped in the Hindu that advocates multistakeholderism rather than support for the CIRP

[George Sadowsky]

Dear Chetan,

We don’t know each other, but I want to assure you that Suresh is giving you very good and useful advice.  

George Sadowsky


On Feb 18, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:

> Chetan Khanna [18/02/14 16:56 +0530]:
>> Its indeed interesting that there is a constant criticism on the advocacy
>> for anti-multistakeholdherhism in India. But please do let me know whom are
>> we protecting? Big MNC's.Question arises how many jobs do they create and
>> how many job loss do they lead to?
> 
> Umm. Google / Microsoft / other MNCs collectively employ several lakh
> people. What job loss is led to - a hypothetical one which would be, if
> they didn't join those, didn't join their indian counterparts like TCS and
> Infosys, and actually set up startups and hired people.  Having actually
> had to try hiring people for a startup, and then have the kid's parents
> tell him "no, I never heard of this company, join tcs where you have an
> offer" .. 
>> Youth in policymaking? Am a youth myself but do know for a fact that we are
>> not capable to make policies regarding peer to peer, free software or for
>> that matter copyright. i can learn but policy making is definitely not our
>> cup of tea.
> 
> Are you so sure? You hang around the right places, listening to the right
> people, till at a certain stage you get an opinion that you are not afraid
> to voice.  In a policy development process the knowledge required is a bit
> more complex and so you tend to be no longer described as "a youth" by the
> time you feel able to contribute. But well, I am 37. And there are people
> in their 60s here. And M.Pouzin is already 82.
> 
>> And to even think of advocating a free and transparent-ism in a society
>> which has not known individualism in its 2000 year history is almost like
>> opening a can of worms.
> 
> Sometimes cans of worms just do need to be opened. How else are you going
> to catch any fish at all?
> 
>> Interestingly, to even think that India is a service industry which is
>> dominated by IT. The claims of a multistakeholderism in India should be
>> looked as completely shallow within the country.
> 
> Are you so sure?  If you get to be in the industry and know other players
> there, you might both agree - and disagree - with your statement.
> 
>> Yes, multi-lateralism is bad but we cannot just impose a completely new
>> culture in our society. We did try it once when we became independent. The
>> result , we became a noisy democracy! So by backing multi-stakeholdherhism
>> where are we heading?
> 
> Sure. Maybe russia should have remained under the tsars, and the americans
> under the british crown.
> 
>> Having going through the arguments of civil society for the past 6 months
>> am only surprised that "status" matters and not ideas!
> 
> You are seeing the uglier side of civil society where - like anywhere else
> - there are a few people for whom status matters. Those are not
> stakeholders, they are steakholders. But don't confuse that minority with
> all of civil society unless you want to include yourself, for example, in
> it.  Find other people you can agree with, join them formally or
> informally.
> 
> 	srs


-------------- next part --------------
____________________________________________________________
You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
     governance at lists.igcaucus.org
To be removed from the list, visit:
     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing

For all other list information and functions, see:
     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance
To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:
     http://www.igcaucus.org/

Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t