[governance] who is responsible for balkanisation of the Internet

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

I am happy that at least some people here are grounded in reality :)

US business interests, or maybe reporters with a hazy grasp of Internet routing and an even hazier memory of high school history classes .. Hanlon's razor would probably present the second option as more plausible, ignorance rather than malice.

--srs (iPad)

> On 18-Feb-2014, at 0:39, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> 
> define: Balkanization (Google... irony :-)
> 
> (balkanize) divide a territory into small, hostile states
> 
> I don't see how any of the proposals, Merkel's latest or earlier ideas about building new submarine cable, etc. would Balkanize (except a daft plan for a German email system, which sounded like Deutsche Telekom trying to recreate AOL).  Keeping traffic and data local will not cause any separation of Internet. 
> 
> Those warning of Balkanization are U.S. business interests, those that will suffer economically should any of these plans actually come off.  It's a tactic, FUD (define: fud)
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2014, at 4:51 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>> 
>> The problem with these comparisons to Balkanization is that it takes a huge lot to split the internet.  And not all that is suggested might even be practical.
>> 
>> Do you have some slightly more technical specifics on how this call for a European Internet would be implemented?
>> 
>> --srs (iPad)
>> 
>>> On 17-Feb-2014, at 21:51, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The below piece shows in simple and clear terms 
>>> 
>>> 1. who is responsible for balakanisation of the global Internet  (wrong guesses - developing country governments, right guess - the US)
>>> 
>>> 2. What needs to be done to stop it (wrong guess - more fluff in the name of Internet governance, right guess - international agreements about some basic decencies and protocols vis a vis the global Internet)
>>> 
>>> But as they say, one can wake up a sleeping person, but not someone who is pretending to be asleep... parminder 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 15 February 2014 Last updated at 19:22 GMT
>>> Data protection: Angela Merkel proposes Europe network
>>> 
>>> German Chancellor Angela Merkel is proposing building up a European communications network to help improve data protection.
>>> 
>>> It would avoid emails and other data automatically passing through the United States.
>>> 
>>> In her weekly podcast, she said she would raise the issue on Wednesday with French President Francois Hollande.
>>> 
>>> Revelations of mass surveillance by the US National Security Agency (NSA) have prompted huge concern in Europe.
>>> 
>>> Disclosures by the US whistleblower Edward Snowden suggested even the mobile phones of US allies, such as Mrs Merkel, had been monitored by American spies.
>>> 
>>> Classified NSA documents revealed that large amounts of personal data are collected from the internet by US and British surveillance.
>>> 
>>> Mrs Merkel criticised the fact that Facebook and Google can be based in countries with low levels of data protection while           carrying out business in nations that offer more rigorous safeguards.
>>> 
>>> "Above all, we'll talk about European providers that offer security for our citizens, so that one shouldn't have to send emails and other information across the Atlantic," she said.
>>> 
>>> "Rather, one could build up a communication network inside Europe."
>>> 
>>> Sensitive
>>> There was no doubt that Europe had to do more in the realm of data protection, she said.
>>> 
>>> A French official was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying that the government in Paris planned to take up the German initiative.
>>> 
>>> Personal privacy is a sensitive issue in Germany where extensive surveillance was carried out under the Nazis and in communist East Germany.
>>> 
>>> A foreign policy spokesman for Mrs Merkel's Christian Democrats, Philipp Missfelder, recently said revelations about US spying had helped bring relations with Washington down to their worst level since the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.
>>> 
>>> Germany has been trying to persuade Washington to agree to a "no-spy" agreement but without success.
>>> 
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26210053
>>> BBC News
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