[governance] The greatest threat in the world today to peace....

[Guru गुरु]

On 02/07/2014 12:17 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yeah, but we are supposed to be allowing the new CoCos to settle in 
> with a bit of peace on IGC. I recommend just letting it pass this time.
>

Avri,

Do you agree with McTim that my posting was off-topic?

> People say why they have to say.
>

The dominant role of USG in Internet and its extraordinary surveillance 
(as Snowden revelations indicate) is an important reason why USG acts 
with such impunity. Think of it as a card game where one player knows 
the cards of all other players. USG uses its illegally collected 
information to further its political and economic goals and commit 
crimes against humanity of an unprecedented order. For eg the illegal 
drone strikes that kill civilians can only work with such tapped 
intelligence

To reduce USG criminal activities/potential, we need to seriously 
address the current IGC structures/processes in which it has a dominant 
role. And IGC as an important CS space has to take this up seriously. 
And stopping even the mention/raising of such important matters is 
simply an attempt at intimidation, and this behavior is a pattern. While 
it will not affect me, such intimidation can have a chilling affect on 
participation of others and I think the co-cos should warn McTim to 
desist from such behaviour.

Guru



> avri
>
> On 06-Feb-14 06:04, McTim wrote:
>> Guru and co-co's,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Guru गुरु <Guru at itforchange.net
>> <mailto:Guru at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     As the year 2013 drew to an end, the BBC reported on the results of
>>     the WIN/Gallup International poll
>> <http://www.wingia.com/en/__services/about_the_end_of___year_survey/global_results/7/__33/
>> <http://www.wingia.com/en/services/about_the_end_of_year_survey/global_results/7/33/>>
>>     on the question: “Which country do you think is the greatest threat
>>     to peace in the world today?”
>>
>>     The United States was the champion by a substantial margin, winning
>>     three times the votes of second-place Pakistan.
>>
>>
>> While this may be the case, I believe this post to be Off-Topic.
>>
>>
>>     read more at
>> http://inthesetimes.com/__article/16227/the_greatest___threat_to_world_peace_is_the___united_states
>> <http://inthesetimes.com/article/16227/the_greatest_threat_to_world_peace_is_the_united_states>
>>
>>     Some thing that the defenders of US exceptionalism / role in IG
>>     should reflect on.
>>
>>
>>
>> There are exactly zero Members of the Caucus who could be described as
>> such.  I believe this to be flame-bait.
>>
>>     This dominant role in IG does feed into the global threat to world
>>     peace that the USG represents..
>>
>>
>>
>> If we are going to speak truth to power on this list, let's at least
>> speak the truth!
>>
>> I would ask the co-co's to discourage members from off-topic posting and
>> flame baiting.  We have enough discord as it is!
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheers,
>>
>> McTim
>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>


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