[governance] Clarification ISOC-PERU
jfcallo at ciencitec.com
jfcallo at ciencitec.com
Tue Dec 9 15:40:40 EST 2014
Don José Felix
Es el caso de ISOC-PERÚ, a pesar de haber escrito varias veces sobre
el no funcionamiento de este Capitulo y como ha sido desaparecido,
nadie hace caso.
¿Hasta cuando Ted Mooney va a investigar lo que pasa en ISOC-PERU?.
Basta de discriminaciones, por parte de los que se han enquistado en
este Capitulo.
Atentamente
José F. Callo Romero
Fundador de ISOC-PERU.
José Félix Arias Ynche <jaryn56 at gmail.com> escribió:
> Tienes razón Carolina...ya me sentía un extraño en la comunidad, aveces me
> parece como si se quisiera que la comunidad desaparezca...
>
>
>
> *Cordialmente: José Félix Arias Ynche*
> * Investigador Social Para El Desarrollo*
>
> 2014-12-03 17:00 GMT-05:00 Carolina Rossini <carolina.rossini at gmail.com>:
>
>> A mid-term solution could be a wiki or pad with a list of topics and
>> editable. So organizations can list the publications they wish and feel
>> represent a good statement regarding a topic.
>>
>> I feel that if we funnel it through a small number of authors , it will go
>> no where.
>> On Nov 29, 2014 1:29 PM, "Milton L Mueller" <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Wolfgang:
>>> This is a charmingly Kleinwachterian approach to things, but forgive me
>>> if I dissent.
>>>
>>> I think each of the different viewpoints of civil society can be, and
>>> already are, represented by CS organizations' own publications. The idea
>>> that "Each of the six groups under the CSCG (IGC, BB, JNC, NCSG, Diplo,
>>> APC) could nominate four authors" to represent all of the spectrum of civil
>>> society just doesn't work. IGC is a mailing list containing a vast
>>> diversity of ideologies, who the heck would they nominate? At the other end
>>> of the spectrum, JNC is a single-ideology group, and to a lesser extent so
>>> is our IGP (Internet Governance Project). APC is already part of NCSG, BB,
>>> and IGC, do they get triple representation? Furthermore, as Andrea Glorioso
>>> correctly stated, the plethora of written materials churning out of this
>>> environment is already overwhelming, the last thing we need is more.
>>>
>>> If you want to do this right, then have an ideologically broad and
>>> diverse group select some of the best _existing_ publications, or excerpts
>>> from publications, that can summarize and explain the spectrum of
>>> viewpoints in civil society on IG issues. The selection of issues would
>>> also be important: some of us concentrate on very direct and more focused
>>> aspects of IG (e.g., names and numbers, routing, interconnection,
>>> standards) while others focus on much broader issues that go beyond IG
>>> alone (e.g., freedom of expression, access, economic policy) The point here
>>> would be to reveal and document the full ideological or policy diversity
>>> among us.
>>>
>>> However, even if you adopt that more reasonable approach, the danger of
>>> representing some views as hegemonic or accepted by all when they are not
>>> remains. We all get a bit irritated I think when Parminder tells us that
>>> our views are not really civil society views, and I can easily see this
>>> project leading to those kinds of debates. And I am not sure I see the
>>> point of clamoring to get represented in such a publication when we could
>>> be pushing our views directly into ongoing policy debates that actually
>>> matter.
>>>
>>> --MM
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > I propose that we start to work on what I call a "Civil Society Internet
>>> > Governance Handbook". This handbook would allow all CS groups within
>>> the
>>> > CSCG to present their own individual points of views so that everybody
>>> > knows what the positions are. The book could be structured into four
>>> main
>>> > chapters:
>>> >
>>> > 1. Human Rights (Access, Freedom of Expression, Privacy etc.)
>>> > 2. Security (Cyberwar, Cyberterrorism, Cybercrime etc.)
>>> > 3. Economic Development (Market domination, competition,
>>> > infrastructure development etc.)
>>> > 4. Technical Coordination (Names, Numbers, Protocols etc.)
>>> >
>>> > Each of the six groups under the CSCG (IGC, BB, JNC, NCSG, Diplo, APC)
>>> could
>>> > nominate four authors (one for each chapter). Each author would be free
>>> to
>>> > argue for her/his position (five to maximum teen pages). There is no
>>> need
>>> > for consensus. Every author would be free to present her/his radical,
>>> > moderate, liberal and whatsoever position on one of the four main
>>> issues.
>>> >
>>> > Such a compendium would help to bring more transparency into the process
>>> > and would enable a more fact based discussion in the IG events ahead of
>>> us.
>>> >
>>> > We could deliver this as an e-book (probably with an Annex with main
>>> official
>>> > texts as Tunis Agenda, Sao Paulo Principles, UN Resolutions etc.) until
>>> the
>>> > May 2015 Sessions in Geneva. In total this book would be around 250
>>> pages.
>>> > If we find a sponsor we could publish this for the New York event in
>>> > December 2015. Such a book would seen by the rest of the IG Community as
>>> > a helpful contribution, it would strengthen the role of CS in the
>>> emerging IG
>>> > multistakeholder mechanisms and would be also an input into the WSIS 10+
>>> > process.
>>> >
>>> > The chair of the CSCG (together with the co-chairs from the six groups)
>>> would
>>> > be the editor.
>>> >
>>> > Any comment?
>>> >
>>> > Wolfgang
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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