[governance] WSIS+10_Propositions faites par JLF/CESIR à la CSTD

Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net
Mon Dec 8 16:42:34 EST 2014


Cher Jean-Louis,

Merci pour ton message et tes notes. Je souris en pensant que j'ai un peu bousculé l'un de nos camarades brésiliens sur les "prénoms" mais vois avec une certaine joie que tu m'as rebaptisé Jean-Chrirophe, à la manière d'un enfant qui aurait du mal à prononcer ce prénom. Bref, cela détend.

J'ai parcouru tes interventions. Je pense que ton angle d'attaque est majeur et primordial. Je dois réfléchir à l'idée de ton forum qui aurait pour vocation principale cet aspect économique que tu évoques. Et qui n'a pas encore trouvé preneur. Cela mériterait que je creuse un peu. Si tu as quelques informations pour entrer un peu plus dans le sujet, cela m'aiderait. Car en l'état il manque une sorte de point d'entrée, un point de cristallisation si j'ose dire. Les trous noirs ne manquent pas en matière d'Internet dès lors que l'on soulève le voile économique. Si l'on regarder n'importe quelle époque et que l'on en recherche les tabous, alors on met rapidement le doigt sur ce qui fâche très fort. A suivre donc.

Amicalement à toi aussi
JC


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Le 8 déc. 2014 à 15:05, Jean-Louis FULLSACK a écrit :

> Bonjour Jean-Chrirophe
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> Je te transmets le texte de mes interventions à la réunion du Vendredi 28 novembre du Panel intersessionnel de la CSTD au titre de WSIS+10 et au tittre de son programme au-delà de 2015
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> Commentaires bienvenus
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> Bonne lecture
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> Amicalement
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> Jean-Louis Fullsack
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> CESIR
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> > Message du 08/12/14 11:34
> > De : "Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal" <jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net>
> > A : governance at lists.igcaucus.org, "Arsene TUNGALI" <arsenebaguma at yahoo.fr>
> > Copie à : "Best Bits" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
> > Objet : Re: [governance] An Uptade on the NMI from ISOC
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> Well, I believe Kathy Brown's post is rather explicit: ISOC is still not close from joining NMI:
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> While the CGI "Further Clarification" brings more clarity to the discussions and is a positive step forward, it is fair to say that issues, including the need for the NMI Council, its selection, financial transparency and long-term objectives and goals, remain.
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> There is little to no doubt, that CGIbr's clarification came after the Brazilian government expressed some concerns, in particular regarding respective roles, and governmental contributions. This CGIbr clarification reaffirms the
> role of states as envisaged in the Tunis Agenda, and confirms the Just Net Coalition's understanding that the Netmudial outcome reaffirmed that role. Please refer to (7) of the clarification, which states:
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> > "7) Any questions or proposed solutions involving the government sector,
> > such as cybercrime, for example, must necessarily be brought to the
> > attention of national governments and / or be channeled to existing or
> > planned international processes. This procedure is consistent with the
> > provisions of the NETmundial Declaration, which recognizes that certain
> > issues require international treatment, taking into account the role and
> > responsibility of governments on specific topics related to their
> > sovereignty; but at the same time reaffirms the need, even in these cases,
> > that the discussions take place in a multistakeholder format."
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> Everyone should listen to Rousseff's UN speech, and the emphasize she put on multilateralism and the roles of governance in regard to protect the rights of citizen, including the long list we are all well acquainted with. From Rousseff's stance to NM, there is an incredible stretch that first look like a victory for the multistakeholder ideology. Maybe, now that Rousseff is back in her seat, she and others at Brazilian government begin to realize what happen and are backing up. Who knows? This reminder is not to say that, in my personal capacity, or JNC's, I am supporting an excessive role for governments in any future Digital framework of national and transnational overarching system or mechanism based on the rule of law, whether national or international law. But indeed we have to acknowledge their specific role (responsibilities and duties) to their citizens (having constructive discussions and debates).
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> Le 8 déc. 2014 à 10:59, Arsene TUNGALI a écrit :
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> Just in case you haven't read this.
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> This becomes More and more interesting. The debate continues on whether to participate or not to.
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> A message from ISOC re NMI: http://www.internetsociety.org/node/344730
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> Can we say that the ISOC is on it's way to join thr NMI?
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> Surely more is to come. Whatch out!
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> Regards,
> A
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> > Arsene Tungali,
> > Executive Director, Rudi International
> > www.rudiinternational.org
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> > Founder, Mabingwa Forum
> > www.mabingwa-forum.com
> > Phone:+243993810967
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> > ICANN Fellow | ISOC Member | Child Online Protection Advocate | Youth Leader | Internet Governance.
> > Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC)
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