[governance] RE: From Confusion to Clarification

Wed Dec 3 19:01:08 EST 2014

Tienes razón Carolina...ya me sentía un extraño en la comunidad, aveces me
parece como si se quisiera que la comunidad desaparezca...

*Cordialmente:         José Félix Arias Ynche*
*                        Investigador Social Para El Desarrollo*

2014-12-03 17:00 GMT-05:00 Carolina Rossini <carolina.rossini at gmail.com>:

> A mid-term solution could be a wiki or pad with a list of topics and
> editable. So organizations can list the publications they wish and feel
> represent a good statement regarding a topic.
>
> I feel that if we funnel it through a small number of authors , it will go
> no where.
> On Nov 29, 2014 1:29 PM, "Milton L Mueller" <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>
>> Wolfgang:
>> This is a charmingly Kleinwachterian approach to things, but forgive me
>> if I dissent.
>>
>> I think each of the different viewpoints of civil society can be, and
>> already are, represented by CS organizations' own publications. The idea
>> that "Each of the six groups under the CSCG (IGC, BB, JNC, NCSG, Diplo,
>> APC) could nominate four authors" to represent all of the spectrum of civil
>> society just doesn't work. IGC is a mailing list containing a vast
>> diversity of ideologies, who the heck would they nominate? At the other end
>> of the spectrum, JNC is a single-ideology group, and to a lesser extent so
>> is our IGP (Internet Governance Project). APC is already part of NCSG, BB,
>> and IGC, do they get triple representation? Furthermore, as Andrea Glorioso
>> correctly stated, the plethora of written materials churning out of this
>> environment is already overwhelming, the last thing we need is more.
>>
>> If you want to do this right, then have an ideologically broad and
>> diverse group select some of the best _existing_ publications, or excerpts
>> from publications, that can summarize and explain the spectrum of
>> viewpoints in civil society on IG issues. The selection of issues would
>> also be important: some of us concentrate on very direct and more focused
>> aspects of IG (e.g., names and numbers, routing, interconnection,
>> standards) while others focus on much broader issues that go beyond IG
>> alone (e.g., freedom of expression, access, economic policy) The point here
>> would be to reveal and document the full ideological or policy diversity
>> among us.
>>
>> However, even if you adopt that more reasonable approach, the danger of
>> representing some views as hegemonic or accepted by all when they are not
>> remains. We all get a bit irritated I think when Parminder tells us that
>> our views are not really civil society views, and I can easily see this
>> project leading to those kinds of debates. And I am not sure I see the
>> point of clamoring to get represented in such a publication when we could
>> be pushing our views directly into ongoing policy debates that actually
>> matter.
>>
>> --MM
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > I propose that we start to work on what I call a "Civil Society Internet
>> > Governance Handbook".  This handbook would allow all CS groups within
>> the
>> > CSCG to present their own individual points of views so that everybody
>> > knows what the positions are. The book could be structured into four
>> main
>> > chapters:
>> >
>> > 1.    Human Rights (Access, Freedom of Expression, Privacy etc.)
>> > 2.    Security (Cyberwar, Cyberterrorism, Cybercrime etc.)
>> > 3.    Economic Development (Market domination, competition,
>> > infrastructure development etc.)
>> > 4.    Technical Coordination (Names, Numbers, Protocols etc.)
>> >
>> > Each of the six groups under the CSCG (IGC, BB, JNC, NCSG, Diplo, APC)
>> could
>> > nominate four authors (one for each chapter). Each author would be free
>> to
>> > argue for her/his position (five to maximum teen pages). There is no
>> need
>> > for consensus. Every author would be free to present her/his radical,
>> > moderate, liberal and whatsoever position on one of the four main
>> issues.
>> >
>> > Such a compendium would help to bring more transparency into the process
>> > and would enable a more fact based discussion in the IG events ahead of
>> us.
>> >
>> > We could deliver this as an e-book (probably with an Annex with main
>> official
>> > texts as Tunis Agenda, Sao Paulo Principles, UN Resolutions etc.) until
>> the
>> > May 2015 Sessions in Geneva. In total this book would be around 250
>> pages.
>> > If we find a sponsor we could publish this for the New York event in
>> > December 2015. Such a book would seen by the rest of the IG Community as
>> > a helpful contribution, it would strengthen the role of CS in the
>> emerging IG
>> > multistakeholder mechanisms and would be also an input into the WSIS 10+
>> > process.
>> >
>> > The chair of the CSCG (together with the co-chairs from the six groups)
>> would
>> > be the editor.
>> >
>> > Any comment?
>> >
>> > Wolfgang
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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