[governance] FW: Data stored overseas should be accessible to US government, judge rules — RT USA

Suresh Ramasubramanian suresh at hserus.net
Fri Aug 1 16:12:06 EDT 2014


Readily available elsewhere for password management, single signon and strong encryption?

Depends on how DIY a guy you are and how much time and money you spend to put it all together.

--srs (iPad)

> On 01-Aug-2014, at 20:51, Daniel Kalchev <daniel at digsys.bg> wrote:
> 
> You mean, "spying on you with your consent" as identity management? ;-)
> 
> There is *nothing* that an US based corporation has as technology, which is not readily available elsewhere. The "difference" is the easy access to funds and USG "protection". There is no free lunch though.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
>> On 01.08.14 17:58, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>> Yes of course except for the additional services such as disaster recovery, security, identity management and such
>> 
>> It also speaks volumes for businesses that they are willing to challenge requests for offshore data in court.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 August 2014 8:14:59 pm "Peter H. Hellmonds" <peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.eu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, not a nail in cloud services per se, but just another narrow-sighted decision that will hurt US-based business interests and by extension US public policy interests. It will be just another sign for European companies that they cannot entrust their corporate data to cloud services of companies that are US-based or otherwise subject to US jurisdiction. I'm pretty sure you don't need RT (Russia Today) for that insight as I'm sure the Wall Street Journal and Forbes will already be blowing in the same horn, just as US businesses are. The big winners will be companies that are in "secure" locations, such as Switzerland, and which have little to no connections and business interests in the US. I read recently that one such Swiss cloud service has seen its business double after the Snowden revelations.
>>> 
>>> Btw, there are open source cloud servers available that you can install in a self-hosted environment, either at home or at your favorite non-US ISP Webspace, depending on your bandwidth and security/privacy needs. ;-)
>>> 
>>> On 01 Aug 2014, at 16:16, "michael gurstein" <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://rt.com/usa/177104-microsoft-preska-ireland-server/
>>> 
>>> Another nail in the coffin for "the cloud" and more...?
>>> 
>>> M
>>> 
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