[governance] Multistakeholder model

Suresh Ramasubramanian suresh at hserus.net
Wed Apr 2 21:51:28 EDT 2014


It does shift shape so often when some vocal members of civil society assure us that the technical community forms no part of civil society. 

This appears to be an effort in the reverse direction. It is quite sad, but what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, and for every fringe civil society type trying to exclude the technical community, there's some crusty old neck beard engineer type who rails at those useless civil society types who wouldn't know a router if it bit them, and are trying to teach real engineers how to run the internet.

Just as wrong headed and fringe an opinion as the civil society fringe one, but oh well ..

--srs (iPad)

> On 03-Apr-2014, at 2:29, "michael gurstein" <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Really glad to see this McTim.  I was getting a bit worried that we would
> actually have a definition of the "MS model" to discuss but I'm glad you
> have reassured us that it was all a false alarm and the MS model is still
> the shape shifting wraith that so many folks here in CS have come to know
> and love...
> 
> M 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of McTim
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:59 PM
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Deirdre Williams
> Subject: Re: [governance] Multistakeholder model
> 
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Deirdre Williams
> <williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> Apart from ICANN four "ad hoc groups" are mentioned directly, five if 
>> you count ISOC which "collectively organize[s]" them. There is no 
>> denying that each of these five is a "stakeholder", and, being more 
>> than one they qualify as "multi". However there is no diversity - in fact
> they are described as "
>> the engineering corps of the Internet".
>> 
>> So is this the "multistakeholder model" that we are discussing?
> 
> 
> Only in part.
> 
> There are other standards bodies, other orgs that work on numbers, hundreds
> of DNS orgs, and lots of folk in issue areas that have self-organised in
> many hundreds of  CS bodies to tackle challenges they see.
> 
> Don't get distracted by something that was probably initially drafted by a
> 20 year old Congressional intern!
> 
> --
> Cheers,
> 
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
> indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
> 
> 
> 
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