[governance] What the IETF is thinking about Prism these days..

[Avri Doria]

On 27 Sep 2013, at 12:14, McTim wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
> <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>> This is the 'there is no silver bullet' argument civil society will have
>> heard in a variety of presentations across sectors.
> 
> And the IETF does not "thnk" monolithicaly.  There will be a spectrum
> of viewpoints inside the IETF as diverse as its participants.  It is
> not an "organisation"  per se, rather a group of volunteers (altho
> recently it has more of a secretariat than in previous decades.


And not only does the IETF not think monolithically,I expect  the solution will not be a single bullet.

The solution will be complex, will be evolutionary, and will need to deal with every more clever attacks, by governments and others.

I expect the solution will evolve as a set of ever easier actions that users and others can take to protect themselves.  I expect the solution will involve actions at every layer and eventual changes to most software.  

It is a Sisyphean task, but one that I expect will done with great zeal and devotion by the engineers of IETF and elsewhere.

And not to dismiss our policy efforts.  We will need to continue to try and protect ourselves with policy and the rule of law from all those who want to  invade our privacy. But as long as any government anywhere can act with virtual impunity and place themselves above the rule of law, I am not sure what policy will achieve, though we have to continue trying. Stopping governments from trampling on peoples' rights and getting them to actually uphold rights as it is their international law based duty, is a much larger struggle than Internet governance.

avri


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