DMP} Re: [Final draft for final comments] Letter to Pres. Rousseff Re: [bestbits] [governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN

Norbert Bollow nb at bollow.ch
Thu Sep 26 09:58:49 EDT 2013


Anja Kovacs <anja at internetdemocracy.in> wrote:

> Not sure which version you mean, Norbert,

The one that was quoted verbatim in the email to which I replied

> but if it is the one in
> which point 4 starts as follows:
> 
> "Reinforce our support for an extension into broader spheres of
> Internet Governance of the experiences from the Brazilian
> multistakeholder model of Internet
> governance, led by CGI.br",

yes in this version point 4 starts like this.
 
> My answer is yes, we would support that.

Thanks for clarifying!

Greetings,
Norbert


> On 26 September 2013 19:15, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > Yes, i would, I did,  accept that, as it balances support to the
> > Marco Civil with support for the multistakeholder governance.
> >
> > When 4 was dropped it put the emphasis on approving the process of
> > the past as opposed to suggesting a way to improve in the future.
> >
> > That works for me.
> >
> > avri
> >
> > On 26 Sep 2013, at 09:25, Norbert Bollow wrote:
> >
> > > [with IGC coordinator hat on]
> > >
> > > Suppose the drafters of the letter were willing to backtrack to
> > > this version, would the IGC then be able to endorse the letter?
> > >
> > > Avri and Anja, do I understand correctly that your objections
> > > would be moot in this case?
> > >
> > > Parminder, are you firmly objecting to this version of point 4,
> > > or would the shortened version just have been strongly preferable
> > > from your perspective?
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Norbert
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> >
> >
> > >> Letter from International Civil Society Organizations to
> > >> President Dilma Rousseff in support of her statement at the 68th
> > >> Session of the UNGA
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Your Excellency,
> > >>
> > >> We, the undersigned organizations and individuals from around the
> > >> world, committed to the development of the Internet and its use
> > >> for advancing social and economic justice, would like to express
> > >> our strong support for the statement delivered this week by your
> > >> Excellency at the 68th Session of the United Nations General
> > >> Assembly. We commend you for taking a leading role on these
> > >> issues and would like to:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Fully endorse the five principles enunciated on the occasion,
> > >> in clear accordance with the Brazilian Internet Steering
> > >> Committee's Principles for the Governance and Use of the
> > >> Internet.
> > >>
> > >> 2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of the Brazilian
> > >> Draft Bill of Internet Rights (Marco Civil da Internet) in a way
> > >> that upholds these principles.
> >
> >
> > >> 3. Commend the courage of Brazil in
> > >> expressing disapproval and demanding explanations from the USA
> > >> about the procedures of illegal interception of  information and
> > >> data, framing it as a grave violation of human rights and of
> > >> civil liberties
> > >>
> > >> 4. Reinforce our support for an extension into broader spheres of
> > >> Internet Governance of the experiences from the Brazilian
> > >> multistakeholder model of Internet governance, led by CGI.br,
> > >> which comprises representatives from Government, Scientific and
> > >> Technology Community, private sector and Civil Society on an
> > >> equal footing.
> > >>
> > >> We express our deep appreciation for your serious commitment to
> > >> social justice and development, of which an open, stable, and
> > >> reliable Internet is a fundamental pillar.
> > >>
> > >> Signatories:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Diego Rafael Canabarro
> > >> <diegocanabarro at gmail.com > wrote: Ian is helping Joanna and me
> > >> in drafting this reduced optimal version. : ) On Wed, Sep 25,
> > >> 2013 at 10:33 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Agree. Stick to the first paragraph and we are all set. --srs
> > >> (htc one x) On 26 September 2013 6:14:04 AM "Louis Pouzin
> > >> (well)" wrote: Agree with Ian. This parag is all that matters.
> > >> Louis - - - On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Ian Peter
> > >> <ian.peter at ianpeter.com > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Ive just looked again at this and it is getting longer and at the
> > >> same time worse.   I think it needs a very substantial edit. Any
> > >> more than two paragraphs and the chance of it being read is
> > >> meagre.   To be honest, I think no more than this is necessary.
> > >> – the first paragraph   We, the undersigned organizations and
> > >> individuals from around the world, committed to the development
> > >> of the Internet and its use for advancing social justice, would
> > >> like to express our strong support for the statement delivered
> > >> this week by your Excellency at the 68th Session of the United
> > >> Nations General Assembly.   (reference the speech if you wish
> > >> for those who would like to read more, but dont repeat it,
> > >> interpret it, and elaborate on it).   And specifically I dont
> > >> think we need to talk post Snowden, and demand apologies from
> > >> the USA. That ain’t going to happen.   Ian Peter
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