[governance] [bestbits] [letter to Dilma Rousseff] merging threads from IGC and BB

[Carolina Rossini]

Pls, Avri, refer to CA and my email


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I agree.
>
> That is why I was willing to support the version that was posted as final
> yesterday that praised the content without praising the process.
>
> avri
>
>
> On 26 Sep 2013, at 09:26, Gene Kimmelman wrote:
>
> > In this world, money always talks; democracy is at best messy; we need
> to be able to act quickly in response to policy opportunities, or we limit
> our own ability to influence political processes -- so compromise languague
> is necessary to bring a broad global network together; and we must also be
> clever -- politics will always interfere with even the most wonderful
> democratic processes and legislation can change up to the last minute, so
> we need to be EQUALLY prepared to withdraw or adjust our support for
> efforts that go awry.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > If the official text on the Best Bits site were changed to no longer
> endorse the Governmental/Congressional process then I will support signing.
> >
> > If as Anja asks it were to reinforce its support of multistakeholder
> governance going forward, then I will be happy to endorse signing
> >
> > However, since some people are already signing it, not sure how it can
> be changed.
> >
> > So as I stands I recommend against signing.  If we do sign, someone
> somewhere is going to throw it back in our faces that we supported
> government driven and controlled processes in this case.  They will be
> right to argue that we are satisfied with a low level of participation that
> can be ignored when not convenient or when money talks - as it appears to
> have done in the Brazilian congressional process.
> >
> > avri
> >
> >
> > On 26 Sep 2013, at 09:01, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
> >
> > > On 26/09/2013, at 8:57 AM, Anja Kovacs <anja at internetdemocracy.in>
> wrote:
> > >> I was very happy with the compromise initially found for point number
> 4 but will not be able to support the letter if this is replaced by the
> shorter version as this refers to multistakeholderism only in the Brazilian
> context and thus does  not in any way assuage the concerns I have expressed
> earlier, esp since the intro of the statement contains blanket support for
> Dilma's speech. I would therefore really appreciate if we can go back to
> the earlier text. If not, I will be extremely sad not to be able to support
> this important and valuable statement. Really deeply sorry about that.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Would both you and Parminder and others be happy if it were "Reinforce
> our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model for Internet
> governance as led in Brazil by CGI.br"?
> > >
> > > Otherwise, it looks as though we will lose some endorsements either
> with the old formulation or the new one.
> > >
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*Carolina Rossini*
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