[Final draft for final comments] Letter to Pres. Rousseff Re: [bestbits] [governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN

Carolina carolina.rossini at gmail.com
Thu Sep 26 09:03:51 EDT 2013


I agree with this language and we should close the letter. I think the item on CGI lost some of its nice English, but stills says what it should say
We will work now on letter translations. 

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On Sep 26, 2013, at 8:59 AM, "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:

> Hmmm... the deadline is tonight, but I've just got my plane ticket to
> Brasilia and should leave for the airport by 08:30 AM BR time tomorrow
> (Friday) morning, so we still have a few more hours time -- I just need
> time to print it and put the doc in a nice envelope, it would not be
> good ritual practice to give the prez a memory stick :)
> 
> fraternal regards
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> On 09/26/2013 08:45 AM, Joana Varon wrote:
>> Parminder, we reached our deadline of 9am in BRA. Lets proceed with the
>> endorsements, ok?
>> 
>> Marco  civil is on item 2. We could add something like this yellow part
>> about the process:
>> 
>> 2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of the Brazilian Draft Bill
>> of Internet Rights (Marco Civil da Internet) in a way that upholds these
>> principles and endorses the innovative and democratic process in which it
>> was conceived.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>wrote:
>> 
>>> Joana
>>> 
>>> I am fine if I am explained why marco process cannot be mentioned as bring
>>> a part of Brazilian IG scene that should be promoted... I understand that
>>> this process is also deliberative while being consensus seeking. Marco
>>> Civil process is a big and a happy part of the Brazilian IG scene, why
>>> should bwe not mention it.
>>> parminder
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday 26 September 2013 04:57 PM, Joana Varon wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Parminder,
>>> 
>>> Considering the support from the others, this is as far as we could go:
>>> 
>>> 4. Reinforce our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model for
>>> Internet governance lead by CGI.br.
>>> 
>>> Im happy you see CGI model as the whole model to be extended to the world.
>>> And we can chat a lot about it. Indeed, its a very good starting point. But
>>> it still have its problems, as every innovative way of deal with things. In
>>> fact, this letter has also the goal to straighten CGI political power as
>>> endorsing it as a legitim  intent. So, for the purpose if this and for
>>> wider consensus lets stay at this point, ok? The part of marco civil is
>>> already mentioned in previous paragraphs.
>>> 
>>> We shall publish it now at BB for collecting signatures as time is passing
>>> by. Will come up with a link asap. Hope u could help with the outreach.
>>> 
>>> Thanks once again for all the inputs, collaboration and insights.
>>> 
>>> Best.
>>> 
>>> Joana
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 26, 2013 1:00 PM, "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh at hserus.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The text is fine as it is.
>>>> 
>>>> Do any other members of the caucus feel strongly about changing point 4?
>>>> 
>>>> --srs (htc one x)
>>>> 
>>>> On 26 September 2013 4:00:48 PM Joana Varon wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ops, just saw Parminder's emails with direct suggestions. So could we go
>>>> for:
>>>> 
>>>> 4. Reinforce our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder model for
>>>> Internet governance lead by CGI.br.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Joana Varon <joana at varonferraz.com>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>  Hi Louis and Parminder,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Until now you were the only ones that didnt agree fully with the texto,
>>>>> due to paragraph 4. From what I've got:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Parminder has a stronger take that THE Brazilian model should be
>>>>> extended to the world.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Louis said that we should remove that mention on the text.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Before we start drafting the text, the issue about of multilateral vs
>>>>> multistakeholderism was raised and we came to a conclusion that though its
>>>>> not the time to criticize this specific point of Dilma's speech, we should
>>>>> reinforce our support for developing models for a multistakeholder approach
>>>>> on IG, also having CGI experiences as a inspiration.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Having in mind that for a broader endorsement we need to reach this
>>>>> middle ground, would you be fine with the actual version or want to submit
>>>>> changes in the language that don't affect this (middle ground) meaning?
>>>>> Thanks a lot for the understanding.
>>>>> 
>>>>> best
>>>>> 
>>>>> joana
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Louis Pouzin (well) <pouzin at well.com>wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> IMHO it would be better without parag 4.
>>>>>> Cheers, Louis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> btw, for those not living there, local brazilian time is UTC-3
>>>>>> - - -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 26 September 2013 7:14:17 AM Joana Varon wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   Dear all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please, find a reduced version below. We are closing the pad now to
>>>>>>> avoid more crazy joined editing processes. Thanks for all the contributions.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Let's receive final comments about very punctual changes or major
>>>>>>> disagreements and gaps until tomorrow (Thursday) 9:00 am (Brazilian time).
>>>>>>> Then collect endorsements through out the day.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *Deadline for signatures will be this Thursday night, let's say
>>>>>>> 22:00, also Brazilian time*. So Carlos can deliver it in hand to
>>>>>>> President Dilma. *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks once again,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> joana
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *Letter from** International C**ivil Society** Organizations** **to
>>>>>>> President Dilma Rousseff in support of her **statement at **the 68th
>>>>>>> Session of the **UNGA *
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Your Excellency,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We, the undersigned organizations and individuals from around the
>>>>>>> world, committed to the development of the Internet and its use for
>>>>>>> advancing social and economic justice, would like to express our
>>>>>>> strong support for the statement delivered this week by your Excellency
>>>>>>> at the 68th Session of the United Nations General Assembly. We
>>>>>>> commend you for taking a leading role on these issues and would like
>>>>>>> to:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1. Fully endorse the five principles enunciated on the occasion, in
>>>>>>> clear accordance with the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee*'*s* *Principles
>>>>>>> for the Governance and Use of the Internet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2. Stress the importance of the timely adoption of the Brazilian
>>>>>>> Draft Bill of Internet Rights (Marco Civil da Internet) in a way that
>>>>>>> upholds these principles.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 3. Commend the courage of Brazil in expressing disapproval and
>>>>>>> demanding explanations from the USA about the procedures of illegal
>>>>>>> interception of  information and data, framing it as a grave violation of
>>>>>>> human rights and of civil liberties
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 4.* *Reinforce our support for an extension into broader spheres of
>>>>>>> Internet Governance of the experiences from the Brazilian
>>>>>>> multistakeholder model of Internet governance, led by CGI.br, which
>>>>>>> comprises representatives from Government, Scientific and TechnologyCommunity,
>>>>>>> private sector and Civil Society on an equal footing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We express our deep appreciation for your serious commitment to
>>>>>>> social justice and development, of which an open, stable, and reliable
>>>>>>> Internet is a fundamental pillar.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Signatories:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> Joana Varon Ferraz
>>>>> @joana_varon
>>>>> PGP 0x016B8E73
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> Joana Varon Ferraz
>>>> @joana_varon
>>>> PGP 0x016B8E73
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