[governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN
Diego Rafael Canabarro
diegocanabarro at gmail.com
Wed Sep 25 12:56:19 EDT 2013
I started a pad. Helpers, please help. Haters, please keep off.
https://pad.riseup.net/p/IGC-Supports-Brazil
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Anja Kovacs <anja at internetdemocracy.in>wrote:
> Would it perhaps be possible then to ask her as part of the statement to
> clarify her stance on the global model which she preposes, in particular
> with regard to the involvement of stakeholders other than the government?
> By linking this up with her obvious support of the Brazilian domestic
> model, this could perhaps be done in a way that asks the question without
> undoing any of the fabulousness of her speech.
>
> As I noted on another list, my aim is not to dismiss Dilma's intervention,
> but to ensure that we do not come up with a statement that puts many of us
> in a very difficult position vis-a-vis our own governments inthe ongoing
> negotiations on the best model of global Internet governance. This is
> especially true in contexts such as India where multistakeholderism, though
> making progress, is far from as established as it is in Brazil and in fact
> continues to be extremely fragile.
>
> Thanks and best,
> Anja
>
>
>
> On 25 September 2013 21:47, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
>
>> I would not like to take on this task since I am deeply involved here
>> and might introduce bias which would delay approval by our flock -- this
>> needs to be from the international civil society community.
>>
>> It would be *extremely important* to have it ready by tomorrow late
>> night (it can be very late in the night -- I am not really sleeping
>> these days) Brazilian time so I can print it and try and deliver it to
>> the Presidenta's hands (or her closest advisors).
>>
>> fraternal regards
>>
>> --c.a.
>>
>> On 09/25/2013 11:52 AM, Diego Rafael Canabarro wrote:
>> > I believe that Carolina (Rossini), Joana (Varon) and Marilia Maciel
>> > could (should) be part of the task-force. : )
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
>> > <suresh at hserus.net <mailto:suresh at hserus.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Carlos and Diego could take the lead on this one, with other
>> > brazilian colleagues more directly involved in Marco civil than we
>> are
>> >
>> > I am happy to sign on to a suitable statement
>> >
>> > --srs (htc one x)
>> >
>> > On 25 September 2013 7:50:34 PM parminder __ wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> If such is the range of support, lets write a statement supporting
>> >> Dilma's very important speech, and commend her/ Brazil on it (as
>> >> also suggested on another list)
>> >>
>> >> parminder
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wednesday 25 September 2013 06:05 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
>> wrote:
>> >>> In which case she has delivered a ringing endorsement of
>> >>> values near and dear to civil society.
>> >>>
>> >>> --srs (iPad)
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 24-Sep-2013, at 22:22, "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca>
>> <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yes, I was one of the ones who talked to her just before she
>> travelled
>> >>>> to the Evil Empire. This is the meaning.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The best part was her firm and clear defense of net neutrality
>> (not even
>> >>>> aunt Neelie dares so much). A tremendous cold shower on the
>> >>>> transnational telco cartel in Brazil, and a renewed hope Marco
>> Civil
>> >>>> could be approved as we dream it should.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> fraternal regards
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --c.a.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 09/24/2013 01:33 PM, Jean Paul NKURUNZIZA wrote:
>> >>>>> Dear Raphael,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You are right.
>> >>>>> I was asking myself if she didn't use "Multilateral" by error.
>> Did she want
>> >>>>> to talk "Multistakeholder".
>> >>>>> If I consider this paragraph for instance :
>> >>>>> "2 - Open, multilateral and democratic governance, carried out
>> with transparency by stimulating
>> >>>>> collective creativity and the participation of society,
>> Governments and the
>> >>>>> private sector."
>> >>>>> If the word "Society"is meant to mean "Civil Society", then I
>> suppose she
>> >>>>> wanted to mean "Multistakeholder"
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Regards
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> NKURUNZIZA Jean Paul
>> >>>>> TRAINER IN COMPUTING AND INTERNET POLICY
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Burundi Youth Training Centre : Secrétaire Général
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Skype : jpnkurunziz
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Facebook : http://www.facebook.com/jeanpaul.nkurunziza
>> >>>>> Tel : +257 79 981459 <tel:%2B257%2079%20981459>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ________________________________
>> >>>>> De : Diego Rafael Canabarro <diegocanabarro at gmail.com> <mailto:
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>> >>>>> <governance at lists.igcaucus.org> <mailto:
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>> >>>>> Carolina Rossini <carolina.rossini at gmail.com> <mailto:
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>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Envoyé le : Mardi 24 septembre 2013 18h17
>> >>>>> Objet : Re: [governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Three mentions to "multilateral".
>> >>>>> No mention to "multistakeholder".
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