[governance] If Multistakeholderism Had Prevailed in the Late 19th/Early 20th Century Would Women Have the Vote? (.Would We Still Have Slavery?

[Avri Doria]

hi,

If we had voted on slavery there would still be slavery. 

In the US we had a civil war to eliminate slavery. 
even the vote we had with only half the country still in the congress was a bare win based on a power play.

Is civil war what is being proposed by those who no longer want to work on the basis of Consensus (and by that I mean forms of rough consensus non unanimity) and the multistakeholder model?

Voting is part of the answer to democracy, but representational democracy is only one part of the democratic spectrum and a part that has been shown to be rather fragile and easy to abuse with money, violence, lack of education and all sorts of forms of propaganda.

avri




On 24 Oct 2013, at 12:21, McTim wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:38 PM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've expanded my response to John Curran to a blogpost...
>> 
>> http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2013/10/23/if-multistakeholderism-had-prevaile
>> d-in-the-late-19thearly-20th-century-would-women-have-the-vote-would-we-stil
>> l-have-slavery/
> 
> 
> 
> ummm, there wouldn't have been any need to vote (men or women voting) if MSism
> had prevailed, as with MSism, we don't use "voting".
> 
> --
> McTim
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> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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