[governance] Choice of addressee(s) (was Re: CONSENSUS CALL Re: Draft letter text)

[parminder]

I once again checked all media coverage. Everywhere I only see something 
to the effect that Brazil will organise an international meeting on IG - 
wherever the initial idea or proposal may have come from. In the 
circumstances it would only be proper to write to whoever everyone is 
saying is organising the event.

parminder


On Sunday 13 October 2013 12:22 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wasn't thinking of a carbon copy being sent to him.  I was speaking about addressing it to the pair of them equally as  the senior members of their respective stakeholder groups.
>
> Ie. To the venerable ... and the most excellent ...  (or whatever the appropriate honorifics might be for this occasion). I do not have a view as to which protocol would require putting first in the list of honorifics.
>
> avri
>
> On 12 Oct 2013, at 13:58, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:
>
>> FWIW: I would CC Fadi. It cannot hurt, and might help.
>>
>> On 12 Oct 2013, at 19:40, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Avri Doria <avri at ella.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If something is sent, shouldn't it be address to both of the leaders
>>>> who came out together for this. Don't we lessen the multi stakeholder
>>>> push while petitioning for CS to be included?  Shouldn't we be
>>>> addressing our thoughts to both of them.
>>>>
>>>> On sending something at all: while I believe it would be better to
>>>> wait until we have something contentful to write, I am not so against
>>>> sending boilerplate that I would object to IGC adding its signature
>>>> to an appropriately addressed note.
>>> I don't see anything inappropriate about addressing this note to the
>>> Brazilian government.
>>>
>>> If CS doesn't get included, it wouldn't be the fault of Fadi or of
>>> anyone else at ICANN. ICANN is not in the habit of excluding
>>> stakeholders, but governments have that habit. It would be the fault of
>>> some government bureaucrat(s) either acting on (bad) habit, or acting
>>> out of an unhealthy relationship with telecom companies that still have
>>> a pre-Internet mindset, or acting of of such a pre-Internet telecom
>>> mindset they may have themselves.
>>>
>>> So it is in my view quite appropriate to communicate to the person who
>>> is able to solve this problem by simply telling her bureaucrats to work
>>> with civil society.
>>>
>>> I don't like the idea of adding Fadi to the list of addressees for this
>>> particular letter, because doing so would reduce the clarity about who
>>> needs to take the necessary action to ensure the inclusion of civil
>>> society.
>>>
>>> I do however agree on the point that there is an imbalance if we
>>> express appreciation only for the Brazilian president and government
>>> but not for the (at least in my view) at least equally significant
>>> contribution of Fadi.
>>>
>>> How about addressing a separate note to Fadi which simply expresses
>>> appreciation?
>>>
>>> If we want to take that route, it might be best to combine the
>>> endorsements / sign-on process for both letters, making it a package
>>> deal, i.e. each person or organization would either endorse both or
>>> none of the two letters.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Norbert
>>>
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