[governance] RE: [bestbits] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014

michael gurstein gurstein at gmail.com
Fri Oct 11 14:02:06 EDT 2013


Robert,

 

>From my observation and experience with CGI etc. the recent history in
Brazil of inclusion of civil society in matters having to do with Internet
Governance is among the best anywhere.

 

And yes, for sure we need to be cautious down the road to ensure that the
rights of citizens/users on the Internet are respected.  

 

Ensuring that the rule of law is operative in the online world as much as in
the off-line would go a very long way to achieving that end and an endless
talk-fest as per the IGF seems very unlikely to achieve very much in that
direction. 

 

However, the bold move from the President of Brazil, particularly since they
and she are specifically agrieved parties to the current lawlessness gives
some hope that their initiative will be in the desired direction.  I think
based on your arguments you should be a strong supporter of the proposed
letter if only to ensure as much as is possible a role for CS in the
discussions which will I'm sure be starting almost immediately.

 

Best,

 

Mike

 

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host world event on Internet governance in 2014

 

Anja +1

 

We need to be strategic. We also should beware of the consequences of not
engaging in a strategic fashion that takes into consideration geopolitics. 

 

I worry at the level of exuberant enthusiasm felt by many. I fear , as has
happened in the past, CS might be pawns in larger play by far better
resourced actors that ultimately  will result in a very different , more
state-centric model of Internet governance where rights are trampled on. I
hope I'm wrong...

 

regards

 

Robert

 

 

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R. Guerra

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Email: rguerra at privaterra.org

 

On 2013-10-11, at 1:07 PM, Anja Kovacs wrote:





When civil society writes too many letters to a person in short succession,
I am afraid they loose their force. As I wrote on the Best Bits list, CS
letters should be received with a mix of excitement and apprehension, I am
concerned that when we send a third, more detailed letter to President
Rousseff next week, she will simply receive it with fatigue. 


Civil society is asking for seats at the table all the time. The point is
what we do when we get there. I think a more detailed letter in ten days
time will have more force. 

Also because we don't have to sit still in the mean time. There are other
ways in which we can make evident to the Brazilian government that  we are
interested in working with them on this and support this idea, including by
communicating with them to find out more directly and by seeing whether we
can work with them on this through the IGF. 

My two paise,

Anja

 

 

On 11 October 2013 22:04, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:

Parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:

> You are just making a general statement that caution and foresight is
> good - and with such a statement who can disagree.... But here I
> havent been told the risk - and beyond  a point, just about any
> political act carries risk.

Also, not acting when an opportunity presents itself carries
more than just the risk of losing that opportunity, it carries the
certainty of losing that opportunity.

Greetings,
Norbert


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