[governance] Re: [bestbits] [bit of news] on Brazilian announcement for the Summit

[Mawaki Chango]

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
<suresh at hserus.net>wrote:

> I will oppose this on principle as drawing any sort of artificial
> distinction between the technical community and civil society is
> counterproductive in the long run.
>

I have no intention of opposing your opposition, but is there any
categorization scheme that is not artificial? My understanding so far of
what the technical community is about is that they are mostly concerned
with designing protocols, setting standards and handling the day to day
operation of the networks, and sometimes coordinating all those moving
parts. I thought TC takes pride in being rather neutral (or a-political, if
you will), just trying to make things work in the most efficient manner. Do
you see the same bunch of people spend time and other resources going
around to push for agendas for which the technology may already be there
but just the political will is lacking? Like, for instance, using some
available technologies and other resources to make access more affordable.
You see no difference between the role that a group such as Access or APC
would play in that regard and that of, say, an RIR? I'm just curious since
you seem so vehement about any line of distinction. That said, it's also
clear that some of the i* orgs can play in both repertoires or combine both
dimensions.

Besides... beware what you wish for because we could end up with just two
stakeholder groups: government vs non-government/CS (the latter for all of
us.) There was a time not so long ago in France when the newly appointed
prime minister or other cabinet members were not straight from the
political class (from none of the political parties) they were referred to
in the media as appointees from CS. Some were professors, some business men.

m.


>
> --srs (iPad)
>
> > On 14-Nov-2013, at 15:29, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
> >
> > Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 14/11/13 12:00, parminder wrote:
> >>>> Once again, as suggested by Matthew, I do believe a formal letter
> >>>> nominating and explaining our role as liasons, and not
> >>>> representatives, for International Civil Society for information
> >>>> regarding the Summit will be good to legitimate and help our job
> >>>> here.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A formal letter naming our liaisons and making it clear that global
> >>> civil society would want to use this mechanism to coordinate its
> >>> role in the proposed Brazil meeting and not go through 1net or any
> >>> other tehcnical community led interface is of the highest priority
> >>> at this stage. Dont want to get into I-told-you-so mode, but I have
> >>> been insisting that we did that first and in clear terms since our
> >>> earliest meetings in Bali. If we have got such a communication
> >>> through in clear terms, maybe our four reps would have been there
> >>> at the above meeting. At least if they werent invited we could have
> >>> protested...
> >>
> >> Draft letter is here: http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/brazil-reps
> >
> > Looks good to me.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Norbert
>
>
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