[governance] On acceptable and unacceptable criticism

Suresh Ramasubramanian suresh at hserus.net
Thu May 30 03:26:25 EDT 2013


Riaz, nobody at all tells you what to "think".

If you overuse ideological cant phrases - especially those that redefine
widely used technical definitions - please don't blame people if they read
a meaning into it that you may or may not have intended.

Riaz K Tayob [30/05/13 10:21 +0300]:
>McT
>
>There are limits to discourse. So from I guess some energy 
>conservation is in order on my part.
>
>On po-co, I think you may be on the verge of a breakthrough. You 
>should pursue it. You may very well change a whole field. I waid with 
>bated breath and all that...
>
>It is not my problem that you fall into the  categories of classical 
>asymmetry of power, its use and that your politics fits this.
>
>Finally, and I don't know how to say this without being offensive: do 
>not presume to tell me what to think. But if you and others don't 
>even have that sensibility... enough said.
>
>On 2013/05/29 05:32 PM, McTim wrote:
>>Norbert,
>>
>>On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>>>Avri Doria <avri at ella.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>When a coordinator tells people that to criticize the coordinator is
>>>>cause for discipline by the coordinator, it goes too far.
>>>I strongly agree.
>>>
>>>However no coordinator has said or written that “to criticize the
>>>coordinator is cause for discipline by the coordinator”.
>>>
>>>Of course discussion of coordinator actions, including critical
>>>discussion, is legitimate -- such discussion just needs to conform to
>>>the general posting rules of the IGC Charter, just like postings on
>>>any other topic.
>>>
>>>Disparaging remarks about any member of the Caucus are not allowed.
>>Great, then you will be taking action against people who use terms
>>like "post-colonial", "hegemonic Civil Society" and "single rooter"?
>>These terms are not used to describe but rather to insult, and often
>>used incorrectly.  For example, the way post-colonialism is defined at
>>Wikipedia:
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postcolonialism
>>
>>seems to indicate that those who use the term are using it 180 degrees
>>from the way it is defined.  In other words, using a "third world
>>lens" to view IG issues is actually practicing post-colonialism.
>>
>>In terms of "single-rootism", the IAB in RFC2826 says:
>>
>>    "To remain a global network, the Internet requires the existence of a
>>    globally unique public name space.  The DNS name space is a
>>    hierarchical name space derived from a single, globally unique root.
>>    This is a technical constraint inherent in the design of the DNS."
>>
>>While the term is meant (IMHO) to be insulting, it actually describes
>>the vast majority of us who want coherence in our DNS resolution and
>>who follow RFCs.
>>
>>In short, I am hoping the co-cos will watch the uses of disparaging
>>terminology by all, not just by a select few.
>>
>>
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