[governance] Blogpost: Multistakeholderism vs. Democracy: My Adventures in "Stakeholderland"

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

They are meaningful.

The question is -

1. How meaningful are they compared to "other" processes and events 

2. How do we broaden the audience?  You do acknowledge these are quite open processes

I know that Diplo does a lot of capacity building in this area - but there's always scope for more organizations to step up and do this.

Then the question of funding / time commitment for more people to participate in this space.

Else - I've seen you, Parminder, David Allen, Milton Mueller etc around since well before WSIS - and how many new people do we see enter this process?

In business and technical community events there's a fairly steady turnover because companies support their employees to travel and participate there, and if someone quits and moves on - while he or she will probably turn up at the next meeting wearing a different name tag, there is quite likely to be an additional person attending the conference - this individual's replacement.  [though not infrequently, someone who was already attending from a different company might turn up as the replacement, so the level of turnover isn't as high as it could be, but it does exist]

In civil society - at least in this little corner of civil society - there is a much, much lower turnover than that.

--srs (iPad)

On 22-Mar-2013, at 11:33, "michael gurstein" <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:

> If what you are saying is correct, then either the activities of the WG are
> trivial in which case how the members are chosen doesn't matter in any case,
> or the activities of the WG are meaningful in which case this matters a
> great deal including representativeness, the lack of accountability,
> transparency in the selection processes and so on. The more meaningful the
> WG's activities are the more significant the deficiencies in the selection
> processes become.
> 
> M
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> Adventures in "Stakeholderland"
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> Well yes, that was my point. You are going to find the usual suspects from
> each of these communities, and that makes it a few dozen each.
> 
> --srs (iPad)
> 
> On 22-Mar-2013, at 2:13, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:12 PM, David Allen 
>> <David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>> The T/A definition from its focal point:
>>> "... scientists who developed the Internet and the technical 
>>> organizations/people who run it."
>>> 
>>> Which is the starting point for doing the counting.
>> 
>> ok, but realistically, I would bet that the pool of acceptable 
>> candidates would be closer to 30-40.
>> 
>> I would say that this applies to CS and biz SGs as well.
>> 
>> If we were to do an analysis of who has "represented" the 3 non-gov 
>> SGs over the last decade in these UN fora I would be surprised if it 
>> were more than 30-40 from each SG.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> McTim
>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A 
>> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>> 
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