[governance] Blogpost: Multistakeholderism vs. Democracy: My Adventures in "Stakeholderland"

[McTim]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:39 PM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> McTim et al you (T/A) can't have it both ways...

why not?

I see no issue with the T&A FP choosing from a subset of the T&A
community, in that the subset would have a clue about EC and UN
processes.

That's exactly what the CS FP did, no?

>
> ...one definition for purposes of exclusion and political representation and
> a second for inclusion and broader PR purposes--the results of the first
> definition being so ghastly and repulsive in their significance.
>
> Remember this discussion is about the legitimacy of the current MS
> processes


I repeat, the CSTD is NOT a MS process.

, not about the nature of technical and academic
> activities/self-definitions in the real world, at which point I, of course,
> agree with you.
>
> The point of the blogpost, to reiterate, was not to critique MS processes as
> they might be useful in fairly narrow technical spheres, rather it was to
> point out the extreme dangers in attempting to uncritically and
> unreflectively apply these to larger and more "political" processes of
> negotiation/decision making/even consultation. In these, the lack of
> appropriate procedures and necessary mechanisms of transparency and
> accountability


If you find that "appropriate procedures and necessary mechanisms of
transparency and
accountability" are lacking, then blame the UN CSTD, not the FPs.


, and the use of self-serving self-definitions can be very
> damaging since what is being presented as one thing (e.g. representation of
> a significant grouping such as the technical and academic community (or for
> that matter Civil Society) is in fact something quite
> different--representation by a very small self-covenanted highly
> exclusionary group).

Aren't all FPs choosing from a "very small self-covenanted highly
exclusionary group" of activists ?

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

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